So a woman carrying, nurturing a baby for 9 months in her stomsch, feeding it. Having it take frim her bones and her body. Having her body weakened and nearly near death during child birth. Only to have someone, another woman on top of that, taking the mothers baby out of this world... how truly evil, how DISGUSTING. Theres a place for those who commit such crimes.
I would say that place should be 6 feet underground, but cremation is the best thing for her. No traces of her should be left at all. Preferably while she's still alive.
@@Ali-lw1toc One day she will stand on trial before the ultimate judge, unable to talk and make excuses. Her hands will bear witness against the crimes she comitted. Only then,.before the world, will true justice and the true scale of her evil be revealed. She will burned and tortured over and over again and forever reminded of those beautiful babies she murdered. They on the other hand will be in eternal bliss. Living their eternal existence in their beautiful prime and reuniting with their loved ones. Justice can never be served on earth.
Why use these photos of her smiling when It's normal to use police mugshots. What's the psychology behind this? She is a stone cold blooded killer. She was killing them in the most painful way imaginable and watching them die to her hearts content. Why is this being reported in a lukewarm way.
@@katewells7670it will help. It helps get 1 out of 10000000000000 retribution by calling her names ect, by worsening her own mental state and making her feel bad by calling her these things. So yes there is a use in name calling
Letby was a fantasist who created a hospital drama with her as the lead character and a romance with a doctor she became obsessed with. A modern day Jekyll and Hyde with newborn babies as props in her depraved soap opera. My heart goes out to the families of these baby angels.
Her case is similar to Beverley allitt. They murdered to get in the good books of people by being nice to their parents in order to get a promotional advantage in the hospital. Then the thrill of murder kicks in and leads to more. The fact that she was evasive by using different methods of murder and manipulated the system and even her parents to cover up. She was very cunning and calculated. No doubt she would have killed hundreds more.
It seems that she might have been addicted to causing unimaginable grief as well, maybe as an extension of what you said. She usually killed on dates that would be highly relevant and emotional to the parents. She involved herself heavily in "comforting" them to the point where she had to be told to leave them alone. She had to "be there" when the news was broken to them. She offered to take a photo of a mother with the body of the son she killed. She obsessively looked up the parents on social media particularly when coming to an important day for them or an anniversary. A thrill, an addiction, an enjoyment, or simply a desire to be around it, we can call it whatever we want but yes, I think she was also a fantasist who created this entire soap opera for herself also. This hits people harder not only because her victims were babies but because it bucks our view of what a serial killer is. We think of a serial killer as a strange loner who we'll be able to easily spot, someone estranged from society, a horrible childhood etc. Not a nurse with a normal childhood who had lots of friends who did normal things like go on holiday, go to salsa classes, loved her cats, went on hen nights. This is what is scary.
Omg, I didn’t know about the emotive dates & her comforting the parents of those babies etc - that is a whole other level. It’s like murderers who join the hunt for those they know they have already murdered - people like Ian Huntley. Is it because they think that if they are hiding in extreme plain sight they would never be suspected or that they get a kick out of being so close to the ‘action’ - it is beyond comprehension and how would she ever think she’d get away with it - obviously, they would keep records of staff shifts etc and at some point start joining the dots (albeit far too late in this case)- it is an absolutely evil and shocking case, feels even more shocking as she looks so pleasant -we all know that you can’t exactly spot a ‘typical’ killer but this hardly makes any sense at all - she must be completely devoid of any empathy at all and it is crazy to think she got to be a nurse, and into a position to do this - I wonder what her background was like? ‘normal’ I expect
It really is hard to take in why someone could do this to innocent babies. She may have been found guilty but I suspect that's no comfort to the parents of the murdered babies. She's pure evil.
As a retired nurse,it’s beyond my comprehension that a nurse could do this ,especially to innocent babies,I worked for a nursing registry ,I worked in every field except the O R. ,one hospital I went to had a nurse there they called The Angel of Death,I never met him .but he was killing elderly patients with lethal doses of lifdocaine ,it’s not the Netflix movie starring Jessica Chastain,but even this was so shocking to me ,you’re in a profession because you have empathy and compassion,it’s stunning and heartbreaking for the families.
There were and there are a lot of serial killers among cab drivers policemen, university professors, restaurant workers and even among Presidents.. not only among nurses.
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place.
But you ahve a prove, you ahve nothing agaisnt this nurse just sp+eculaltion shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place.
No mental desease does not mean she's normal. She does not seem to have empathy, neither for the babies nor the parents. What on earth was her motivation to do this profession?? She does not want to alleviate suffering, she brings it to most vulnerable human beings.
I read the lengthy description of psycopathy before I read this. PLEASE don't think am excusing her but quite a few of the traits of a psycopath are mentioned in the posts.
Maybe not a mental illness but a way of being. Psychopaths lack empathy for anyone. I believe they're born that way since there are differences in their brains from normal people.
@@LethalbanterWe didn't see the smiles of Harold Shipman, so why photos of her smiling and holding babies. She is a stone cold blooded killer. She was killing them in the most painful way imaginable and watching them die to her hearts content. Why is this being reported in a lukewarm way.
This was a well-spoken and insightful doctor. He kept his answers short and to-the-point, and at the same time he showed such empathy to the families of these poor babies.
He didn't tell us anything and he doesn't seem aware that there's mental illness and mental disorders..The nurse had a mental disorder otherwise she couldn't have murdered babies..
@@kb4432 why? she is the girl next door that hid in plain sight. those photos are portray the normality which she used as cover. they should be shown. now we know, not even a normal white women ticking all of societies boxes should be ruled out as evil.
Now I hope that there are legal repercussions for every single individual who could have, but failed to stop this monster. They should all spend the rest of their lives in prison too, their actions were inexcusable. Institutions fail people far too often, and they are rarely held to real account. This is probably the single worst institutional failure in modern history.
Management in the NHS is a fucking joke. 7 consultant Paediatricians came to them demanding Lucy be removed from the ward and in response the management threatened to have all of the doctors reported to the medical council, and even demanded some of them write apology letters to her
Why don't they put cameras everywhere in hospital? That would solve a lot of problems. And don't give me privacy of patients when the very life of patients is on the line.🐝
Especially the chief executive of that hospital. He held off involving the police until he earnt enough money to retire before the sh1t hit the fan. That's exactly what happened. He should be criminally held to account
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
I hope they do not say she is mentally ill. She is just evil like all other atrocities that happened all in history. We have to stop making excuses for these people.
There's a clear definition of what mental illness is - in criminal cases it's something like schizophrenia, which she clearly didn't have. It's no good saying it's just "evil" either - that's a quasi religious means of distancing ourselves from these things. As the criminal psychologist Kerry Daynes said, these crimes do not happen in a vacuum. They happen for a range of reasons. Dismissing them just as "evil" gives us an excuse not to think about just how mundane these people can be - it's too close to the bone for us to think about. It also gives us an excuse not to look at how we can look at preventing these things in future.
She’s part of the dark triad which is a personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder with machiavelianism . As for a motive it will be jealousy, hatred and the power she had to determine the outcome of those babies lives. She enjoyed the perverse nature that she could hide behind a seemingly caring professional mask but knowing it covered her evil wrong doings. She thought she could fool everyone ( ego driven) but all serial killers have an Achilles heel , which is ,they do the heinous crimes too many times & in a regular pattern for it to be coincidental . R.I.P. little innocent babies, stripped of a life due to the evil of Lucy Letby 😢
She seemed to enjoy the family's painful reactions. So now she can chat with her own parents and enjoy their pain and disappointment in her... Wonder about any relationships she had, what will her ex-partners say?
@@davidmcrae1070 The parents of killers can often take surprising stances on their murdering kids. I wouldn’t be surprised if they feel sorry for her. These people are fantastic manipulators
@@davidmcrae1070 yes they probably will ...not heard of the chris watts case his mum cindy visits him and phones him all the time...his mum and dad have not disowned him or his sister..
BBC iplayer have a episode about Lucy and "her friends and family all stick by her" her friend said an they think she is innocent and not capable of hurting anyone. I think she enjoys the pain and suffering of others is her motive.
Why use these photos of her smiling when It's normal to use police mugshots. What's the psychology behind this? She is a stone cold blooded killer. She was killing them in the most painful way imaginable and watching them die to her hearts content. Why is this being reported in a lukewarm way.
The perfect profile and the sociability only a perfect cover in her mind, to the evil side of her, she's likely to be a creative psychopath in my opinion. We've seen so many people like that in life; where in public & private they're two different characters.
Letby reminds me of the Oxford school shooter in the U.S. These psychopaths derive pleasure from controlling and inflicting pain on the defenseless. Secretly stealing the life of an innocent pumps up their low self image, making them feel as if they have power over others. The Oxford shooter actually wrote about the happiness he felt stealing the lives of young people - that they won't ever get to live their lives. Letby sent a sympathy card to the bereaved parents knowing how evil she is. It's scary to think that these psycho monsters are walking among us.
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
Little has been said about her upbringing. On the face of it, Lucy came from a stable home, but was it? Did she have a happy childhood or did she feel she couldn't live up to her parents expectations? ? Did she mix readily with other children or was she a loner? Did she make strong friendships? As an only child, was she spoilt, given too much attention or expected to be perfect? It is strange that, seemingly, she showed no early signs of any bad traits in her character. Are some people born with evil tendencies or are there other factors that influence them to become warped in their choices? Will we ever find out why Lucy chose to do what she did? So sad for the parents and babies who became the victims of this obviously disturbed and mentally sick woman.
Despite a normal upbringing some people are Sociopaths or Psychopaths. We should not be quick to judge her parents. Studies are showing the possibility of a genetic component.
After seeing this, I think if I was a parent of a newborn, I would be camping out in NICU with my child. I wouldn't trust anyone other than myself with their care. So sad for the parents of those babies.
I know why she killed these babies, the answer is on the notes that she herself has written. She said on the note that she killed the babies because she didn't feel competent enough to take care of those babies, wouldn't marry, and would never have children. So because she was unhappy, she wanted those people to suffer too, she was jealous of those parents' happiness, they had something that in her mind, she would never have. Pure pettiness, jealousy, and evilness.
I believe that's what it is. It is just being evil and jealous of someone else's happiness. She would get jealous of every loving couple coming to their hospital and delivering a baby. She would take away their happiness and watch them grieve.
@wrightvcx2249 they where telling that it was munchausen by proxy, but some other specialists and families said she was completely normal, and over the years never showed any symptoms of mental health problems. So yea, she was jealous, and if she couldn't be happy no one else could.
Prime example that you can’t judge a book by its cover. Looking at those photos you’d never dream she could deliberately hurt & murder babies. There are so many people today whose motivations are absolutely incomprehensible. This isn’t even someone deluded into thinking she was “helping” them. Just someone who got a thrill from murder & getting away with it, but yet obviously knew what she was doing was wrong.
Correct. Not an 'angel' of death scenario at all where someone thinks they're 'helping' a terminal patient by euthanizing them which is, at least, a 'motive' we can understand. And not a known psychological syndrome like Munchausen by Proxy (where murder is not the objective.) Who becomes a natal nurse who apparently hates babies?! Who hates babies?! I can't even begin to figure out such a mind as that. She looks so 'normal.'
External appearances have nothing to do with morals. I personally find it shocking that everyone is so shocked. What characteristics about her made people think she looks so innocent in the first place? A human that is capable of this kind of evil is never tied to a specific "look."
@veronniep when you're rotten inside it does tend to show on the outside too. Human instincts pick up on subtleties. It's inate in all of us. That's why some of us are finding it surprising
The management of that hospital should be dismissed, and considered as a party to the crimes because they did nothing. Consultants warned them and who knows if others were involved. The hospital should be sued for their negligence and lack of care! Police are good at everything except for solving real crimes.
There are 2 types of nurse in this world , as with any uniformed and degree level attained professions … 1, someone who genuinely and wholeheartedly cares and want to help 2, someone who is using that uniform as an extension of their mask they wear to hide the fact they’re straight up evil , controlling, sadistic, narcissist …. “IT” (because it deserves no humane label ) was clearly a number 2
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
When every baby that died in that hospital from 2016 to 2017 were in her care, then we must ask what the hell the higher-ups were doing. Learnt nothing from Beverly Allitt clearly.
I think she wrote something like ( she feels so lonely, she fears she will never have children) .....Does this mean that because she cannot have babies, she might feel jealous of other women and tried to destroy their families in order to make them feel lonely like her ??? That's insane !
This would explain her insane rational to kill those poor babies. What a monster there is nothing in the world that can drive you to such a thing even at her lowest she had the opportunity to change roles or step down . I struggle to understand why she thought this would be her only option. I believe this was in her to do she enjoyed it and found happiness in causing harm what a sad disgusting human being. Now she should rot away and live with her memories because NOW she will be alone and no one but herself to harm.
Should be cameras all over the hospital you can't trust someone with lives just because someone has a job to do so. Training, a degree, experience etc doesn't tell you what someone is capable of plus anyone us capable of evil if they choose to. Sad but true. This is very sad and worrying
@@ebut123and why not? More are filmed as we all go about life everywhere we go… I would say that cameras in rooms with the most vulnerable babies whose parents are not always there should be installed across all hospitals. The entrances, waiting areas, hallways are all with cctv. Let’s hope that will now be considered.
Yes, I've dealt with jealous/insecure medical staff myself! You can't trust someone with your health and well being just because they're a doctor or nurse. And I'm sure there's more Lucy's around!
When manipulation becomes their main character/personality....nature/nurture?...zero empathy, blank inside....Many sociopaths walking around us....even sleeping in our beds......
Psychopathy is not a mental illness. They are in full control of their faculties. Many psychopaths exist and are law abiding citizens, who can control themselves. They might be terrible people, but they are not monsters. She knew exactly what she was doing and is a monster. Let's not make any excuses for her.
@EgoChip Idk where you got your flawed understanding from but psychopathy and sociopathy are indeed considered mental disorders. It is true that there are psychopaths who are able to control themselves and lead seemingly 'normal' lives, just like there are paedophiles who are able to as well and will never act on their urges. However, that doesn't erase the fact that they are mentally ill. Having such conditions does not excuse them though, and they will and have faced consequences for their actions.
How can anyone kill an innocent baby! Her life must be studied for clues to learn what would drive someone to do that and stop it happening in the future.
It's her choice, are some of you living in a rainbow world or what? you act like there are no criminals in this world and she is the first. Wake the heck up, how the heck do you have such a naive mentality in 2023,
She revelled in the attention and drama it caused. She enjoyed playing the part of victim who had to endure these terrible incidents. Whilst she was playing god. If you see some of the texts she sent colleagues this is clear.
If she craved attention why didn't she show some cleavage, go on a diet, and wear tight, bright clothes? She is "beige," and nothing like any narcissist that I have ever seen. If she revelled in attention why didn't she come to the end of her trial and sentencing? She would have been in the limelight. If she wanted to play God why didn't she come to the courtroom and make some controversial, self-pitying, excuse-making, or even rebuffing statement? She could have controlled her victims families further. If it transpires that she was diagnosed as being incapable of having children, then I could believe that as a motive - bitterness and revenge against those that can have children. Or if she had a dead twin sister and as a result was pressurised and or made to feel guilty by her parents then she might have wanted to kill twins (as she seems to have done). But Lucy Letby does not seem to me to be an attention and drama seeker nor control freak. Beige Lucy the narcissist? Eh?
Psychopaths enjoy power and doing what others find reprehensible makes them feel powerful. A baby is the most innocent soul on this planet, so when they commit these terrible acts they are doing it to defy morality, God and life itself. They’re broken. There’s something missing in who they are. But don’t ever sympathise with them, they choose to do what they do.
Her brain is not the same as others. A Serial killers biological makeup is very different. There is also the sociopathic element to her personality in that a sociopath does not kill without preparation, without a plan whereas a psychopath will act without thinking.
She had a love affair with one of the pediatricians but he was married. She was looking for his attention and jealous that she would never marry him or have his babies. Psycho.
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place. there is a word. iditos must die of the son of them.too, thas the evil free mansonary. yoiu dotn die in an hosptial its in another place.-with another cause, likke poison food from supermarkets. yor blind you cans ee anyhting
She doesn't deserve the scrutiny or subject matter research analysis into her sad pathetic drab life into why she made herself relevant in the worst possible way. Investigate the system's inept senior's slow act that facilitated her unchallenged rampage. Its appalling!!
Has she been psychiatrically evaluated and observed and was she diagnosed? Maybe no delusions but a personality disorder? I cant find it anywhere. I read that she has herself had complications at her own birth. I find that interesting. And, she wrote she could never have a family, children, a reason to destroy families?
It's interesting to look at her relationship with her parents. Several texts she sent to friends were used as evidence at the trial and have been widely reported. They say that she was sufficated by her parents - they seem to have had very anxious attachment with her. Psychologists call it "narcissistic parentification" and "enmeshment" - the parents essentially use the child as an object for their own emotional dysfunction and ideals. Certainly, it's not a reason for murder, but it does seem to have left her deeply narcissistic and developmentally stunted. The Disney toys in her room are perhaps a hint to how she viewed herself - a childlike Disney princess who had always been her parents' perfect little girl.
Many people are raised in unhealthy or abusive relationships but choose to be different than their abusers and have empathy for others. No excuse for this monster.
The oppressive capitalistic system that glorifies profits over ppl consistently & don't give a hoot about the deep down suffering ppl go thru inside of themselves are responsible as well just like this sickening media that reports in a sickening way in order to gain views & get capital.
But why could she never know that? I mean, she wasnt infertile, right. It is such a strange to say by her. She could marry, have children, she was young. So she knew something was wrong with her, I guess.
I’ve had friends who hard tried forever to have a child, and they were so happy when they finally found out that they were pregnant or that the had passed the miscarriage stage. One such friend, I asked, how was the pregnancy going? She replied, I wanted this for so long, that no matter how difficult it is I would never complain! So, can you imagine going through all of that for so long and some evil murdering nurse???? Kills your child. It makes me soooo angry😡🤬and brings tears to my eyes.🥹😢
4:40 EXACTLY THIS ! study her to try and spot the people who would do such a thing, granted difficult but invaluable knowledge could be gleaned from her.
I am surprised that there were no cameras in the neo natal ward . They should have cameras so that someone can monitor them.This is so sad that babies are dying but hospital authorities were not taking any action or not even investigating that what is happening.
Well then she's not too different from most modern women who see pre born babies as "things", to be disposed of at will. In fact, many go on social media to gloat about doing so.
@@ssuwandi3240 shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
I’d like to see why the administration did not call the police earlier when the consultant and doctor suspected it was Lucy. We’re they trying to protect their jobs and the hospitals reputation over the lives of their defenseless patients?
Clinicals it's your duty of candour to speak up when a patient in your hospital is subject to medical negligence even by one or more clinical and including clinical trials across across UK and Europe
Some people are born evil in ways that are unimaginable. Letby by all accounts had a excellent childhood. Her parents clearly loved her. She had friends had a social life. Nothing points at her being a monstrous serial killer. With her not admitting the crimes until she does we will just never now if she is actually 100% guilty but from the extremely disturbing hand written notes to the paperwork taken and the stalking of the familys and lets not forget she was on the shifts it all points at a truly guilty verdict.
Sorry, but actually NOTHING points to anything - it looks that way, but in FACT AND ACTUALITY, nothing resides here that proves anything - as has been said many times, at best, it is CIRCUMSTANTIAL and emotionally - charged “evidence”…therefore, not a safe basis to build a guilty verdict upon - my view. Christopher. 🌈🌈🎄
She should be brought into the court for the hearing, put in one if those hearing booths with only a one way hearing going in and none coming out. This way she cannot disrupt the court but has to listen to the families impact statements she has rob children from in her callous, evil killing spree. Change the law...drag her into the court by any means possible
NHS as per had been more worried about there own reputation. A sorry does not cut the mustard. Medical staff should not have to be gagged ,prevented from talking to the police. Medical staff worry about the ramifications of speaking up , they should be protected as a result of being people with good integrity.
The hospital managers should stand trial as guilty by association. How stupid were they that they actually demanded the paediatricians write letters of apology to Letby! That behaviour is also contemptible and unbelievable. None of them should ever work again imo. Was there some wokeist politics going on there? By which I mean, were the consultants men who were thought to be accusing a young woman? The managers allowed their prejudices to cloud their judgement and should be punished for that!
Not a lot of good that is for sure. The NHS is a complete mess in almost every aspect, and this should be the final straw. Something needs to drastically change, the management are abject failures. They are supposed to care for people not let them die while they play politics and care more about their image. It's not just the NHS, institutional failures are far too commonplace throughout society.
By not having Lucy Letby present at the sentencing hearing, we are possibly losing a unique opportunity to hear from Lucy Letby herself. Immediately before sentencing, the convicted person is allowed to make a statement. In the intense emotional atmosphere of the court room with the victim's families present and having heard their impact statements, some serial killers have for the first time spoken of remorse for their acts and have even given insight into the motivation behind their evil deeds. Serial killer, Jeffrey Dahmer pled "Not Guilty " to killing 16 persons at trial but later at sentencing apologizied saying: ".....I feel so bad for what I did to those poor families and I understand their rightful hate....". . Lucy Letby might have made a similar short statement. It would have meant much to the victims' families.
The statement would normally be made by her lawyer. This woman is in no frame of mind to share anything with the group. Least of all an explanation or apology. They will keep her "on protection" in jail as Big Karen and the sisters will want to give her a slapping or two.
@@mrparlanejxtra I disagree. Did any doctor or counselor state that she was incapable of attending the sentencing hearing? In the US, Lucy Letby would have attended court even if they had to bring her in by wheelchari.
She is entitled to wait in the cells out the back and be given a copy of the judges orders. She will have plenty of time to read them. A British MP is talking about a law change to make her appear at sentencing.@@maginot2u
I really want to hear from her, the parents, her friends, and colleagues after the verdict. Have any of their views changed or are they still the same?
@@sbeast64 I know her parents supported her position of Not Guilty to the end. I think it is very likely LL will be viciously assaulted and killed by other inmates. Another horror awaits them.
If I was manager I would of sorted it after the first second warning not wait that long put a hidden camera or something in that room and checked on her more often maybe even a few words with her honestly what were they doing waiting that long ??
Dear doctor you are gorgeous but you are being far too kind towards this calculating, unrepentant mass murderer, who killed for a reason she will never divulge. She seemed to get a kick out of playing God and is beyond contempt. Worse than Allitt because she had far more positive attributes in her looks, figure and speech.
@@Earthbound369 In another video, they showed more of her notes and in one of them she said, "I did it on purpose, I'm not good enough to care for these babies, I am evil." Shows she is fully aware of what she's doing and on some level has such self-hatred that it compelled her to do it. Definitely narcissistic.
The murderer targeted twins, it would seem (unless it is just that there are a lot of twins in a neonatal, premature birth ward). Additionally, the twins that were murdered tended to be boys, I think. Lucy Letby had a difficult birth and entered nursing ostensibly to express her gratitude and admiration towards the nurses that saved her. Did she have a twin brother that died, that made her feel guilty, that eventually made her want to lash out? In the daily Mail it says she had Thyroid Deficiency and that "Untreated it can also impair fertility and lead to problems in pregnancy." I wonder if she has been told that she was infertile. Lucy Letby is not a narcissist but she could conceivably be a very vengeful infertile woman.
I have worked in Health care settings as assistant. I witnessed people with No Medical training being asked to co - sign Controlled Drug Log books...????????? Just BOOK shoved under their nose, please dign, book removed.
It truly is. This monster eventually got caught and convicted. But there are other monsters out there who kill more babies than her and never get punished. Like the war mongers and corporations such as Nestle.
She admitted it in the note, she was evil. I believe her, why would she lie. She wrote it in her own hand. Good enough for me. Is it so hard to believe someone is evil? Look at Manson he said he was evil too, I believe him. If there is good there is evil. Your looking at her.
How could she do this? Well, first of all, she’s a psychopath. She doesn’t experience empathy the way neurotypical people do and she has a huge ego that needs constant validation, and a shallow mind that needs constant stimulation (called “sensation seeking”.) There is evidence to suggest she wanted more than her position. She felt she was better than her role, that her job was boring and monotonous and she wasn’t getting any special attention or accolades. A code situation is exciting, chaotic, challenging, and a nurse who responds first and responds well gets attention and validation from other nurses and the doctors. She attacked that first child for the rush and the drama and the pats on the back for a job well done. I think she wasn’t expecting to also enjoy the power, but I think she did. I think she started for the excitement (an extreme example of sensation seeking) and the validation, perhaps to make herself look good. But why did she continue when she knew for a fact eyes were on her? That she was already suspected by members of the staff? I think attacking those first babies awakened something she wasn’t expecting: A deep seated hunger for power and control, and sadistic pleasure. Plainly, she enjoyed how it felt and she enjoyed the baby’s pain and their family’s pain. She secretly delighted in their suffering, watching the baby and doing nothing as their O2 saturation dwindled, offering to take pictures of the parents holding their deceased baby, watching them bathe the body, Facebook stalking them long after, returning like a vampire to feed on their heartbreak and loss. Of course, she also continued because by then she was feeling untouchable. The doctors who raised concerns over and over had been told to stop, that they’re was no “smoking gun”, no need to jeopardize a good nurse’s reputation, and forced to apologize to her! As absolutely heartbreaking as this is, it is fascinating on a psychological level, if you can remove yourself momentarily from the fact that this demonic woman ended the lives of so many precious, vulnerable infants. It’s truly horrific. She’s a monster and has no business living in free society.
Great interviewee! And as he said, it would have been better to act on the information of her association with the deaths at the time, instead of in retrospect.
When her colleagues raised concerns to their management, they were asked to send Letby a letter of apology. Let that sink in, people. The inept healthcare service that we pay our tax to every month, let this happen. Please start privatisation.
She a professional in the field but also a killer, like an evil dexter. Her disguise was not put on after her day job, her disguise was her day job....
How can you say she has no mental illnesses or issues? Has she been evaluated yet? Maybe she has as part of the trial process. But the notes she left were what leads me to think she does have mental issues. Not saying she's insane as that's clearly not the case. But something in her mind is out of the norm.
I don’t understand. What kind of monster would hate and kill babies that have nothing to do with her life ? If she doesn’t like the job , she can easily transfer to another dept that do not have any interaction with babies/children. Bloody insane
@@lilhoneybun5390 you must be absolutely delusional if you think the women, some of them mothers, won't get to her at some point in prison.... It's pretty much guaranteed. It's like saying a child molestorer won't get what they deserve in men's prisons... guaranteed!
Take your pick: mad, bad or sad what motivates anyone. I suppose Lucy will end up in a special hospital ie Broadmoor ? In any event care of her in the prison service will be difficult.
So a woman carrying, nurturing a baby for 9 months in her stomsch, feeding it. Having it take frim her bones and her body. Having her body weakened and nearly near death during child birth. Only to have someone, another woman on top of that, taking the mothers baby out of this world... how truly evil, how DISGUSTING. Theres a place for those who commit such crimes.
I would say that place should be 6 feet underground, but cremation is the best thing for her. No traces of her should be left at all. Preferably while she's still alive.
What about the women who have live abortions?
And the lawmakers that make it lawful?
Yes there is…HELL
Which is why it should and does exist.
@@Ali-lw1toc It doesn't exist.
@@Ali-lw1toc One day she will stand on trial before the ultimate judge, unable to talk and make excuses. Her hands will bear witness against the crimes she comitted. Only then,.before the world, will true justice and the true scale of her evil be revealed. She will burned and tortured over and over again and forever reminded of those beautiful babies she murdered. They on the other hand will be in eternal bliss. Living their eternal existence in their beautiful prime and reuniting with their loved ones. Justice can never be served on earth.
Nothing drove her. She is what she is. She took on the job so that she could go what she wanted to do.
Still had to be a motive ! Always is.
@@magsk6721evil is the motive. She willed to do evil bottom line
I blame diversity
@anubis8918 what diversity
Why use these photos of her smiling when It's normal to use police mugshots. What's the psychology behind this?
She is a stone cold blooded killer. She was killing them in the most painful way imaginable and watching them die to her hearts content. Why is this being reported in a lukewarm way.
Men and women can both be evil. I feel like a load of excuses are coming instead of just labelling her as an evil cxnt and letting her rot in jail.
I doubt it
I doubt she'll rot in jail for long. She'll be given a taste of her own medicine.
@@EgoChipWhich will be worse?
It is not going to help anyone to call her any of the detrimental names you prefer
@@katewells7670it will help. It helps get 1 out of 10000000000000 retribution by calling her names ect, by worsening her own mental state and making her feel bad by calling her these things. So yes there is a use in name calling
Letby was a fantasist who created a hospital drama with her as the lead character and a romance with a doctor she became obsessed with. A modern day Jekyll and Hyde with newborn babies as props in her depraved soap opera. My heart goes out to the families of these baby angels.
Her case is similar to Beverley allitt. They murdered to get in the good books of people by being nice to their parents in order to get a promotional advantage in the hospital. Then the thrill of murder kicks in and leads to more. The fact that she was evasive by using different methods of murder and manipulated the system and even her parents to cover up. She was very cunning and calculated. No doubt she would have killed hundreds more.
Babies as props....Excellent analysis.
Spot on assessment from what I've gathered. A psychotic fantasist. May she receive every piece of karma due to her.
It seems that she might have been addicted to causing unimaginable grief as well, maybe as an extension of what you said. She usually killed on dates that would be highly relevant and emotional to the parents. She involved herself heavily in "comforting" them to the point where she had to be told to leave them alone. She had to "be there" when the news was broken to them. She offered to take a photo of a mother with the body of the son she killed. She obsessively looked up the parents on social media particularly when coming to an important day for them or an anniversary.
A thrill, an addiction, an enjoyment, or simply a desire to be around it, we can call it whatever we want but yes, I think she was also a fantasist who created this entire soap opera for herself also.
This hits people harder not only because her victims were babies but because it bucks our view of what a serial killer is. We think of a serial killer as a strange loner who we'll be able to easily spot, someone estranged from society, a horrible childhood etc. Not a nurse with a normal childhood who had lots of friends who did normal things like go on holiday, go to salsa classes, loved her cats, went on hen nights.
This is what is scary.
Omg, I didn’t know about the emotive dates & her comforting the parents of those babies etc - that is a whole other level. It’s like murderers who join the hunt for those they know they have already murdered - people like Ian Huntley. Is it because they think that if they are hiding in extreme plain sight they would never be suspected or that they get a kick out of being so close to the ‘action’ - it is beyond comprehension and how would she ever think she’d get away with it - obviously, they would keep records of staff shifts etc and at some point start joining the dots (albeit far too late in this case)- it is an absolutely evil and shocking case, feels even more shocking as she looks so pleasant -we all know that you can’t exactly spot a ‘typical’ killer but this hardly makes any sense at all - she must be completely devoid of any empathy at all and it is crazy to think she got to be a nurse, and into a position to do this - I wonder what her background was like? ‘normal’ I expect
It really is hard to take in why someone could do this to innocent babies. She may have been found guilty but I suspect that's no comfort to the parents of the murdered babies. She's pure evil.
Women don't believe babies are babies untill it's convenient
She couldn't have done these killings without the help of the hospital authority.
maybe we could put her on the midazolam protocols and the liverpool care pathway?
or made a scapegoat
She is just a psychopath. Its hard to realize how someone can do this to little pure babies 😱 i want to cry.
As a retired nurse,it’s beyond my comprehension that a nurse could do this ,especially to innocent babies,I worked for a nursing registry ,I worked in every field except the O R. ,one hospital I went to had a nurse there they called The Angel of Death,I never met him .but he was killing elderly patients with lethal doses of lifdocaine ,it’s not the Netflix movie starring Jessica Chastain,but even this was so shocking to me ,you’re in a profession because you have empathy and compassion,it’s stunning and heartbreaking for the families.
There were and there are a lot of serial killers among cab drivers policemen, university professors, restaurant workers and even among Presidents.. not only among nurses.
Some people might do it for the money
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place.
But you ahve a prove, you ahve nothing agaisnt this nurse just sp+eculaltion
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place.
@@purplelove3666pretty sure very few people would turn up if they didn't get paid for most jobs including any kind of medical position
What's all this about her refusing to leave her cell to attend court ? pick her up and drag her there.
Here, here! What nonsense!
No mental desease does not mean she's normal. She does not seem to have empathy, neither for the babies nor the parents. What on earth was her motivation to do this profession?? She does not want to alleviate suffering, she brings it to most vulnerable human beings.
All she did was late term abortion tbh..
Psychopathy is not a mental illness.
I read the lengthy description of psycopathy before I read this. PLEASE don't think am excusing her but quite a few of the traits of a psycopath are mentioned in the posts.
Maybe not a mental illness but a way of being. Psychopaths lack empathy for anyone. I believe they're born that way since there are differences in their brains from normal people.
Power to the defenseless
Unimaginable
Prayers for those innocent babies
Why use these photos of her smiling. It's normal to use police mugshots. What's the psychology behind this?
Or devastated parents
@@kb4432I think it's to show you just how normal monsters look. Like looking at her you could never think that's a baby serial killer
@@LethalbanterWe didn't see the smiles of Harold Shipman, so why photos of her smiling and holding babies.
She is a stone cold blooded killer. She was killing them in the most painful way imaginable and watching them die to her hearts content. Why is this being reported in a lukewarm way.
@@kb4432I'm bir sure Harold shipman smiled once in his life
This was a well-spoken and insightful doctor. He kept his answers short and to-the-point, and at the same time he showed such empathy to the families of these poor babies.
He has a wonderful UA-cam channel
He didn't tell us anything and he doesn't seem aware that there's mental illness and mental disorders..The nurse had a mental disorder otherwise she couldn't have murdered babies..
It would be more empathetic if they removed her good photos and photos of her holding babies. It's a sick world we live in
@@veverest2155agreed. He is very good at his job.
@@kb4432 why? she is the girl next door that hid in plain sight. those photos are portray the normality which she used as cover. they should be shown. now we know, not even a normal white women ticking all of societies boxes should be ruled out as evil.
Now I hope that there are legal repercussions for every single individual who could have, but failed to stop this monster. They should all spend the rest of their lives in prison too, their actions were inexcusable. Institutions fail people far too often, and they are rarely held to real account. This is probably the single worst institutional failure in modern history.
Management in the NHS is a fucking joke. 7 consultant Paediatricians came to them demanding Lucy be removed from the ward and in response the management threatened to have all of the doctors reported to the medical council, and even demanded some of them write apology letters to her
the consultants should be jailed too. They allowed this and could have just gone to the police.
Why don't they put cameras everywhere in hospital? That would solve a lot of problems. And don't give me privacy of patients when the very life of patients is on the line.🐝
@@amandadassonville4043how is there not cameras where the babies are 😮
Especially the chief executive of that hospital. He held off involving the police until he earnt enough money to retire before the sh1t hit the fan. That's exactly what happened. He should be criminally held to account
Its all about Lucy-if the baby dies she gets heaped with sympathy, if the baby survives then she's a hero heaped with praise.
Thank you for saving our baby. Thiose ones don't get counted. She was an adrenaline junkie.
Textbook von Munchausen by proxy or factitious disorder against another.
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
I hope they do not say she is mentally ill. She is just evil like all other atrocities that happened all in history. We have to stop making excuses for these people.
Absolutely!!
This is the most ignorant comment I've read all day.
You are so right. We need to stop giving mental health as an excuse for these sick individual's
There's a clear definition of what mental illness is - in criminal cases it's something like schizophrenia, which she clearly didn't have. It's no good saying it's just "evil" either - that's a quasi religious means of distancing ourselves from these things. As the criminal psychologist Kerry Daynes said, these crimes do not happen in a vacuum. They happen for a range of reasons. Dismissing them just as "evil" gives us an excuse not to think about just how mundane these people can be - it's too close to the bone for us to think about. It also gives us an excuse not to look at how we can look at preventing these things in future.
That always seemed ridiculous to me. If she was right in her mind she wouldn't be killing, so what's the point of "she has mental illness"?
She’s part of the dark triad which is a personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder with machiavelianism . As for a motive it will be jealousy, hatred and the power she had to determine the outcome of those babies lives. She enjoyed the perverse nature that she could hide behind a seemingly caring professional mask but knowing it covered her evil wrong doings. She thought she could fool everyone ( ego driven) but all serial killers have an Achilles heel , which is ,they do the heinous crimes too many times & in a regular pattern for it to be coincidental .
R.I.P. little innocent babies, stripped of a life due to the evil of Lucy Letby 😢
She seemed to enjoy the family's painful reactions.
So now she can chat with her own parents and enjoy their pain and disappointment in her...
Wonder about any relationships she had, what will her ex-partners say?
She probably killed her ex's too....... If she had any.
You really think her parents will want anything to do with her ?
@@davidmcrae1070 The parents of killers can often take surprising stances on their murdering kids. I wouldn’t be surprised if they feel sorry for her. These people are fantastic manipulators
@@davidmcrae1070 yes they probably will ...not heard of the chris watts case his mum cindy visits him and phones him all the time...his mum and dad have not disowned him or his sister..
BBC iplayer have a episode about Lucy and "her friends and family all stick by her" her friend said an they think she is innocent and not capable of hurting anyone.
I think she enjoys the pain and suffering of others is her motive.
Why use these photos of her smiling when It's normal to use police mugshots. What's the psychology behind this?
She is a stone cold blooded killer. She was killing them in the most painful way imaginable and watching them die to her hearts content. Why is this being reported in a lukewarm way.
And she's white
Because it gets across the shock of a lovely young woman being a hideous baby killing monster.
You can't judge a book by it's cover kind of thing.
@@hanifa192 Oh shut up. What's white got to do with it.
You're just looking for racist confirmation bias.
The perfect profile and the sociability only a perfect cover in her mind, to the evil side of her, she's likely to be a creative psychopath in my opinion. We've seen so many people like that in life; where in public & private they're two different characters.
Letby reminds me of the Oxford school shooter in the U.S. These psychopaths derive pleasure from controlling and inflicting pain on the defenseless. Secretly stealing the life of an innocent pumps up their low self image, making them feel as if they have power over others. The Oxford shooter actually wrote about the happiness he felt stealing the lives of young people - that they won't ever get to live their lives. Letby sent a sympathy card to the bereaved parents knowing how evil she is. It's scary to think that these psycho monsters are walking among us.
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
Little has been said about her upbringing. On the face of it, Lucy came from a stable home, but was it? Did she have a happy childhood or did she feel she couldn't live up to her parents expectations? ? Did she mix readily with other children or was she a loner? Did she make strong friendships? As an only child, was she spoilt, given too much attention or expected to be perfect?
It is strange that, seemingly, she showed no early signs of any bad traits in her character. Are some people born with evil tendencies or are there other factors that influence them to become warped in their choices?
Will we ever find out why Lucy chose to do what she did?
So sad for the parents and babies who became the victims of this obviously disturbed and mentally sick woman.
She probably just hid her psychopathy well
You seems to show much more insight in the matter then this psychiatrists. I wander whether he asked any of these questions.
Silicon chip inside her head, it switched to over load. Nobody's gonna go to school today she's gonna make them stay at home.
Despite a normal upbringing some people are Sociopaths or Psychopaths. We should not be quick to judge her parents. Studies are showing the possibility of a genetic component.
@@bonnie3937 no one judges, these are just questions.
It’s the power. Having the ability to take the life away from someone.
Likely as well a demonic possession in my opinion.
Considering you have never met her, should we agree you know nothing?
So you know.
Maybe you are into that sort of thing
@@jacobjorgenson9285 🥱
After seeing this, I think if I was a parent of a newborn, I would be camping out in NICU with my child. I wouldn't trust anyone other than myself with their care. So sad for the parents of those babies.
I know why she killed these babies, the answer is on the notes that she herself has written. She said on the note that she killed the babies because she didn't feel competent enough to take care of those babies, wouldn't marry, and would never have children. So because she was unhappy, she wanted those people to suffer too, she was jealous of those parents' happiness, they had something that in her mind, she would never have. Pure pettiness, jealousy, and evilness.
I believe that's what it is. It is just being evil and jealous of someone else's happiness. She would get jealous of every loving couple coming to their hospital and delivering a baby. She would take away their happiness and watch them grieve.
@wrightvcx2249 they where telling that it was munchausen by proxy, but some other specialists and families said she was completely normal, and over the years never showed any symptoms of mental health problems. So yea, she was jealous, and if she couldn't be happy no one else could.
@@Eskisie I think you might have hit the nail there.
I' am made evil myself and ik that's not the reason why she killed. Maybe sometruth
@@Eskisiemental health problems don't make you commit murder,that's your choice
Those who hid or ignored concerns are as guilty!
Prime example that you can’t judge a book by its cover. Looking at those photos you’d never dream she could deliberately hurt & murder babies. There are so many people today whose motivations are absolutely incomprehensible. This isn’t even someone deluded into thinking she was “helping” them. Just someone who got a thrill from murder & getting away with it, but yet obviously knew what she was doing was wrong.
Correct. Not an 'angel' of death scenario at all where someone thinks they're 'helping' a terminal patient by euthanizing them which is, at least, a 'motive' we can understand. And not a known psychological syndrome like Munchausen by Proxy (where murder is not the objective.) Who becomes a natal nurse who apparently hates babies?! Who hates babies?! I can't even begin to figure out such a mind as that. She looks so 'normal.'
External appearances have nothing to do with morals. I personally find it shocking that everyone is so shocked. What characteristics about her made people think she looks so innocent in the first place? A human that is capable of this kind of evil is never tied to a specific "look."
@veronniep when you're rotten inside it does tend to show on the outside too. Human instincts pick up on subtleties. It's inate in all of us. That's why some of us are finding it surprising
Why do people see Lucy as the golden girl before she went on to kill those babies in her care.
How can you say " there were no red flags " when she was arrested three times and let go!
Alot of people get arrested and dont kill babies bro
He meant when she was growing up if you listen
The management of that hospital should be dismissed, and considered as a party to the crimes because they did nothing. Consultants warned them and who knows if others were involved. The hospital should be sued for their negligence and lack of care! Police are good at everything except for solving real crimes.
Why are you looking for excuses for this murderer?? Let her rot in jail.
No sympathy for the babies, then again I am not surprised,the media is not really the cleanest brained
There are 2 types of nurse in this world , as with any uniformed and degree level attained professions … 1, someone who genuinely and wholeheartedly cares and want to help
2, someone who is using that uniform as an extension of their mask they wear to hide the fact they’re straight up evil , controlling, sadistic, narcissist ….
“IT” (because it deserves no humane label ) was clearly a number 2
uk nurses and indina doctors .. enought said, explosive combination
they are not christinas,, you know nothing yor sleeping
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
When every baby that died in that hospital from 2016 to 2017 were in her care, then we must ask what the hell the higher-ups were doing. Learnt nothing from Beverly Allitt clearly.
I think she wrote something like ( she feels so lonely, she fears she will never have children) .....Does this mean that because she cannot have babies, she might feel jealous of other women and tried to destroy their families in order to make them feel lonely like her ??? That's insane !
This would explain her insane rational to kill those poor babies. What a monster there is nothing in the world that can drive you to such a thing even at her lowest she had the opportunity to change roles or step down . I struggle to understand why she thought this would be her only option. I believe this was in her to do she enjoyed it and found happiness in causing harm what a sad disgusting human being. Now she should rot away and live with her memories because NOW she will be alone and no one but herself to harm.
I figured that
Your guessing oh dear.
Why is she allowed to decide not to be at the sentencing portion? Is that how it is in the British criminal court? That sucks
If only she'd opted to nurse the abortion theatre, she'd have had a successful career.
Point made. If you kill them once they're out of the womb, then and only then is it murder???
Exactly what I've been thinking - millions of women do the same, with just as much sadistic apathy, and are valorised for it.
Yeah. Sadly aborting babies is not considered murder in today's sick world. It's a 'woman's right'!
She didn't because it wasn't enough to satisfy her Ego and jealousy would be my guess.
Should be cameras all over the hospital you can't trust someone with lives just because someone has a job to do so. Training, a degree, experience etc doesn't tell you what someone is capable of plus anyone us capable of evil if they choose to. Sad but true. This is very sad and worrying
Couldnt believe there was no cameras in that room honestly
@@ebut123 I just said why. Nothing dumb about it
@@ebut123and why not? More are filmed as we all go about life everywhere we go… I would say that cameras in rooms with the most vulnerable babies whose parents are not always there should be installed across all hospitals. The entrances, waiting areas, hallways are all with cctv. Let’s hope that will now be considered.
@@Honey-cm1jvtake no notice. Theirs is the dumb statement…Obvs never had kids or even entered a scbu unit in a hospital.
Yes, I've dealt with jealous/insecure medical staff myself! You can't trust someone with your health and well being just because they're a doctor or nurse. And I'm sure there's more Lucy's around!
Since when is a psychopath or sociopath in the bad cluster (mad, bad, sad) considered mentally healthy?
When manipulation becomes their main character/personality....nature/nurture?...zero empathy, blank inside....Many sociopaths walking around us....even sleeping in our beds......
Idk that's literally textbook mental illness
Psychopathy is not a mental illness. They are in full control of their faculties. Many psychopaths exist and are law abiding citizens, who can control themselves. They might be terrible people, but they are not monsters. She knew exactly what she was doing and is a monster. Let's not make any excuses for her.
@EgoChip Idk where you got your flawed understanding from but psychopathy and sociopathy are indeed considered mental disorders. It is true that there are psychopaths who are able to control themselves and lead seemingly 'normal' lives, just like there are paedophiles who are able to as well and will never act on their urges. However, that doesn't erase the fact that they are mentally ill. Having such conditions does not excuse them though, and they will and have faced consequences for their actions.
@@InvaderZ1 Maybe people differentiate between disorder and illness?
How can anyone kill an innocent baby! Her life must be studied for clues to learn what would drive someone to do that and stop it happening in the future.
This is not something that can be stopped. Unfortunately
It's her choice, are some of you living in a rainbow world or what? you act like there are no criminals in this world and she is the first. Wake the heck up, how the heck do you have such a naive mentality in 2023,
Do you actually think knowing why she did it will stop the future baby murders?
She revelled in the attention and drama it caused. She enjoyed playing the part of victim who had to endure these terrible incidents. Whilst she was playing god.
If you see some of the texts she sent colleagues this is clear.
If she craved attention why didn't she show some cleavage, go on a diet, and wear tight, bright clothes? She is "beige," and nothing like any narcissist that I have ever seen.
If she revelled in attention why didn't she come to the end of her trial and sentencing? She would have been in the limelight.
If she wanted to play God why didn't she come to the courtroom and make some controversial, self-pitying, excuse-making, or even rebuffing statement? She could have controlled her victims families further.
If it transpires that she was diagnosed as being incapable of having children, then I could believe that as a motive - bitterness and revenge against those that can have children.
Or if she had a dead twin sister and as a result was pressurised and or made to feel guilty by her parents then she might have wanted to kill twins (as she seems to have done).
But Lucy Letby does not seem to me to be an attention and drama seeker nor control freak. Beige Lucy the narcissist? Eh?
Wake up
@@IchaelGill Me wake up to the fact that Lucy is a narcissist or Billy to the fact that she clearly isn't.
@@TimothyTakemoto you are boring🥱
You are too kind. Thank you for reading my boring comment.
Psychopaths enjoy power and doing what others find reprehensible makes them feel powerful. A baby is the most innocent soul on this planet, so when they commit these terrible acts they are doing it to defy morality, God and life itself.
They’re broken. There’s something missing in who they are. But don’t ever sympathise with them, they choose to do what they do.
Her brain is not the same as others. A Serial killers biological makeup is very different.
There is also the sociopathic element to her personality in that a sociopath does not kill without preparation, without a plan whereas a psychopath will act without thinking.
She had a love affair with one of the pediatricians but he was married. She was looking for his attention and jealous that she would never marry him or have his babies. Psycho.
Has anyone investigated the parents of the killer ..often these events stem from childhood trauma abuse for monsters to be created. .
shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place. there is a word. iditos must die of the son of them.too, thas the evil free mansonary. yoiu dotn die in an hosptial its in another place.-with another cause, likke poison food from supermarkets.
yor blind you cans ee anyhting
Jealousy lead to hate. She wrote she can’t have babies.
"I will never marry or have children. I will never know what it’s like to have a family." - Pretty much says it all
She doesn't deserve the scrutiny or subject matter research analysis into her sad pathetic drab life into why she made herself relevant in the worst possible way. Investigate the system's inept senior's slow act that facilitated her unchallenged rampage. Its appalling!!
Has she been psychiatrically evaluated and observed and was she diagnosed? Maybe no delusions but a personality disorder? I cant find it anywhere. I read that she has herself had complications at her own birth. I find that interesting. And, she wrote she could never have a family, children, a reason to destroy families?
Where were the NHS senior nursing staff and the obstetric and medical consultants during all this going on.?
Prayers for all those affected at the hands of sadistic Lucy letby.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Nothing fails harder than prayers!
Two many love hearts
Too many hearts and what for and why.
You need to see a doctor
Your prayers will fall on death ears and where was God when Letby was around to cast her evil spells.
It's interesting to look at her relationship with her parents. Several texts she sent to friends were used as evidence at the trial and have been widely reported. They say that she was sufficated by her parents - they seem to have had very anxious attachment with her. Psychologists call it "narcissistic parentification" and "enmeshment" - the parents essentially use the child as an object for their own emotional dysfunction and ideals. Certainly, it's not a reason for murder, but it does seem to have left her deeply narcissistic and developmentally stunted. The Disney toys in her room are perhaps a hint to how she viewed herself - a childlike Disney princess who had always been her parents' perfect little girl.
Many people are raised in unhealthy or abusive relationships but choose to be different than their abusers and have empathy for others. No excuse for this monster.
Did she have a twin (deceased)?
The oppressive capitalistic system that glorifies profits over ppl consistently & don't give a hoot about the deep down suffering ppl go thru inside of themselves are responsible as well just like this sickening media that reports in a sickening way in order to gain views & get capital.
Her note did say ‘I will never know how it feels to have children and get married’. Couldn’t it be spite?
But why could she never know that? I mean, she wasnt infertile, right. It is such a strange to say by her. She could marry, have children, she was young. So she knew something was wrong with her, I guess.
I’ve had friends who hard tried forever to have a child, and they were so happy when they finally found out that they were pregnant or that the had passed the miscarriage stage. One such friend, I asked, how was the pregnancy going? She replied, I wanted this for so long, that no matter how difficult it is I would never complain! So, can you imagine going through all of that for so long and some evil murdering nurse???? Kills your child. It makes me soooo angry😡🤬and brings tears to my eyes.🥹😢
Hospitals are getting away with this behaviour a long time without being policed in ward and also in theater
4:40 EXACTLY THIS ! study her to try and spot the people who would do such a thing, granted difficult but invaluable knowledge could be gleaned from her.
I am surprised that there were no cameras in the neo natal ward . They should have cameras so that someone can monitor them.This is so sad that babies are dying but hospital authorities were not taking any action or not even investigating that what is happening.
The neonates were dying from lack of proper care in the failing CoCH neonatal unit. There is no evidence Lucy harmed a single baby
I think she enjoyed harming something (I say something because I do feel she saw these babies as “things”) that was was so important to others.
Well then she's not too different from most modern women who see pre born babies as "things", to be disposed of at will. In fact, many go on social media to gloat about doing so.
A mentally health nurse should have a periodic rotation in other areas. These babies had struggled from too early of the birth.
@@ssuwandi3240 shes innocent , oif she killed 7 who killed the remain?? they were caiught,, they accuse and nurse and they close the unit ,, adn they go to kill babies to another place
She's truly evil. Unforgivable.
It's forgivable all crime is
I’d like to see why the administration did not call the police earlier when the consultant and doctor suspected it was Lucy. We’re they trying to protect their jobs and the hospitals reputation over the lives of their defenseless patients?
There were red flags! The managers avoided those red flags and gave her space to kill the most innocent human beings on the earth!
Someone should do some analysis on the interviewee Doctor's psychological motivation(s) for having such a haircut. 😆
Clinicals it's your duty of candour to speak up when a patient in your hospital is subject to medical negligence even by one or more clinical and including clinical trials across across UK and Europe
This is so messed up man why why??
She's gonna get shanked in prison before she confesses to anything
I hope it's a long, drawn out and painful process. A shank is too easy for her.
She'll be in isolation?
Some people are born evil in ways that are unimaginable.
Letby by all accounts had a excellent childhood.
Her parents clearly loved her.
She had friends had a social life.
Nothing points at her being a monstrous serial killer.
With her not admitting the crimes until she does we will just never now if she is actually 100% guilty but from the extremely disturbing hand written notes to the paperwork taken and the stalking of the familys and lets not forget she was on the shifts it all points at a truly guilty verdict.
Sorry, but actually NOTHING points to anything - it looks that way, but in FACT AND ACTUALITY, nothing resides here that proves anything - as has been said many times, at best, it is CIRCUMSTANTIAL and emotionally - charged “evidence”…therefore, not a safe basis to build a guilty verdict upon - my view. Christopher. 🌈🌈🎄
Why is she given the option to not appear for the verdict? She should be made to face the judge, jury and the parents.
She should be brought into the court for the hearing, put in one if those hearing booths with only a one way hearing going in and none coming out. This way she cannot disrupt the court but has to listen to the families impact statements she has rob children from in her callous, evil killing spree. Change the law...drag her into the court by any means possible
You seem to know it all
There is no motive. Probably a psychopath since it seems she lacks empathy.
NHS as per had been more worried about there own reputation. A sorry does not cut the mustard. Medical staff should not have to be gagged ,prevented from talking to the police. Medical staff worry about the ramifications of speaking up , they should be protected as a result of being people with good integrity.
The hospital managers should stand trial as guilty by association. How stupid were they that they actually demanded the paediatricians write letters of apology to Letby! That behaviour is also contemptible and unbelievable. None of them should ever work again imo. Was there some wokeist politics going on there? By which I mean, were the consultants men who were thought to be accusing a young woman? The managers allowed their prejudices to cloud their judgement and should be punished for that!
"some man just want to watch the world burn"-Alfred
Harold Shipman put old people down like putting down animals
Humans are also animals
What goes on in the NHS?
Not a lot of good that is for sure. The NHS is a complete mess in almost every aspect, and this should be the final straw. Something needs to drastically change, the management are abject failures. They are supposed to care for people not let them die while they play politics and care more about their image. It's not just the NHS, institutional failures are far too commonplace throughout society.
By not having Lucy Letby present at the sentencing hearing, we are possibly losing a unique opportunity to hear from Lucy Letby herself. Immediately before sentencing, the convicted person is allowed to make a statement. In the intense emotional atmosphere of the court room with the victim's families present and having heard their impact statements, some serial killers have for the first time spoken of remorse for their acts and have even given insight into the motivation behind their evil deeds. Serial killer, Jeffrey Dahmer pled "Not Guilty " to killing 16 persons at trial but later at sentencing apologizied saying: ".....I feel so bad for what I did to those poor families and I understand their rightful hate....". . Lucy Letby might have made a similar short statement. It would have meant much to the victims' families.
The statement would normally be made by her lawyer. This woman is in no frame of mind to share anything with the group. Least of all an explanation or apology. They will keep her "on protection" in jail as Big Karen and the sisters will want to give her a slapping or two.
@@mrparlanejxtra I disagree. Did any doctor or counselor state that she was incapable of attending the sentencing hearing? In the US, Lucy Letby would have attended court even if they had to bring her in by wheelchari.
She is entitled to wait in the cells out the back and be given a copy of the judges orders. She will have plenty of time to read them. A British MP is talking about a law change to make her appear at sentencing.@@maginot2u
I really want to hear from her, the parents, her friends, and colleagues after the verdict. Have any of their views changed or are they still the same?
@@sbeast64 I know her parents supported her position of Not Guilty to the end. I think it is very likely LL will be viciously assaulted and killed by other inmates. Another horror awaits them.
If I was manager I would of sorted it after the first second warning not wait that long put a hidden camera or something in that room and checked on her more often maybe even a few words with her honestly what were they doing waiting that long ??
Dear doctor you are gorgeous but you are being far too kind towards this calculating, unrepentant mass murderer, who killed for a reason she will never divulge. She seemed to get a kick out of playing God and is beyond contempt. Worse than Allitt because she had far more positive attributes in her looks, figure and speech.
This “doctor” is just a media stoodge
Textbook psychopath.
I'm still curious about her motives. There's always a motive. We'll probably never know, if she even knows herself.
@@Earthbound369 In another video, they showed more of her notes and in one of them she said, "I did it on purpose, I'm not good enough to care for these babies, I am evil." Shows she is fully aware of what she's doing and on some level has such self-hatred that it compelled her to do it. Definitely narcissistic.
@@Earthbound369there'll be a Netflix documentary about her next year that will probably answer that question tbf
3:55 Expert has nothing to say on her motive!
Thanks for sharing
The murderer targeted twins, it would seem (unless it is just that there are a lot of twins in a neonatal, premature birth ward). Additionally, the twins that were murdered tended to be boys, I think. Lucy Letby had a difficult birth and entered nursing ostensibly to express her gratitude and admiration towards the nurses that saved her. Did she have a twin brother that died, that made her feel guilty, that eventually made her want to lash out?
In the daily Mail it says she had Thyroid Deficiency and that "Untreated it can also impair fertility and lead to problems in pregnancy." I wonder if she has been told that she was infertile. Lucy Letby is not a narcissist but she could conceivably be a very vengeful infertile woman.
I have worked in Health care settings as assistant.
I witnessed people with No Medical training being asked to co - sign Controlled Drug Log books...?????????
Just BOOK shoved under their nose, please dign, book removed.
Appalling and heartbreaking - but hardly "the UK's worst child killer". Some of the Victorian 'baby farmers' killed scores, if not hundreds.
Still haunts me thinking about them.
Of modern times they mean.
That's bad mental illness. Poor babies 😢
She had a desire to kill and chose defenceless babies because she's a coward and the fact her parents would support her and attend court is a disgrace
Watch the hospital bosses re-group, backtrack and ass-cover!
Horrible cruel world we live in with evil monster's 😭😭
It truly is. This monster eventually got caught and convicted. But there are other monsters out there who kill more babies than her and never get punished. Like the war mongers and corporations such as Nestle.
She admitted it in the note, she was evil. I believe her, why would she lie. She wrote it in her own hand. Good enough for me. Is it so hard to believe someone is evil? Look at Manson he said he was evil too, I believe him. If there is good there is evil. Your looking at her.
Why speculate? Its not going to bring them back. All it does is keep reminding the parents that they've lost a child. Really the media is sick.
How could she do this? Well, first of all, she’s a psychopath. She doesn’t experience empathy the way neurotypical people do and she has a huge ego that needs constant validation, and a shallow mind that needs constant stimulation (called “sensation seeking”.) There is evidence to suggest she wanted more than her position. She felt she was better than her role, that her job was boring and monotonous and she wasn’t getting any special attention or accolades. A code situation is exciting, chaotic, challenging, and a nurse who responds first and responds well gets attention and validation from other nurses and the doctors. She attacked that first child for the rush and the drama and the pats on the back for a job well done. I think she wasn’t expecting to also enjoy the power, but I think she did.
I think she started for the excitement (an extreme example of sensation seeking) and the validation, perhaps to make herself look good. But why did she continue when she knew for a fact eyes were on her? That she was already suspected by members of the staff? I think attacking those first babies awakened something she wasn’t expecting: A deep seated hunger for power and control, and sadistic pleasure. Plainly, she enjoyed how it felt and she enjoyed the baby’s pain and their family’s pain. She secretly delighted in their suffering, watching the baby and doing nothing as their O2 saturation dwindled, offering to take pictures of the parents holding their deceased baby, watching them bathe the body, Facebook stalking them long after, returning like a vampire to feed on their heartbreak and loss.
Of course, she also continued because by then she was feeling untouchable. The doctors who raised concerns over and over had been told to stop, that they’re was no “smoking gun”, no need to jeopardize a good nurse’s reputation, and forced to apologize to her!
As absolutely heartbreaking as this is, it is fascinating on a psychological level, if you can remove yourself momentarily from the fact that this demonic woman ended the lives of so many precious, vulnerable infants.
It’s truly horrific. She’s a monster and has no business living in free society.
no other serial killer case has blown my mind as much as this one.
Evil can come in beautiful packages!!!
Great interviewee! And as he said, it would have been better to act on the information of her association with the deaths at the time, instead of in retrospect.
When her colleagues raised concerns to their management, they were asked to send Letby a letter of apology.
Let that sink in, people. The inept healthcare service that we pay our tax to every month, let this happen. Please start privatisation.
She a professional in the field but also a killer, like an evil dexter. Her disguise was not put on after her day job, her disguise was her day job....
Dexter killed criminals tho. Not even smth to compare.
@swymaj02 yes he was essentially doing good , hence I said an' evil 'version
Nothing! Post mortems on 6 babies out of 7 showed NATURAL CAUSES
You really ought to turn off these messed up comments for the sake of the victims families.
How can it be news if it's speculation?
Make an astological chart of her birth time and you get everything nothing hides.
How can you say she has no mental illnesses or issues? Has she been evaluated yet? Maybe she has as part of the trial process.
But the notes she left were what leads me to think she does have mental issues. Not saying she's insane as that's clearly not the case. But something in her mind is out of the norm.
He whole team and especially hospital management need to be prosecuted also... massive cover-up which allowed her or whoever to do it
Sack all hospital managers this would never had happened if the doctors and Matrons was in charge
Killing 7 babies makes her the worst child killer while there were and are many serial killer who raped and murdered children
Funny how another psychologist said she DID have Morchhauser's by proxy...strange..
I don’t understand. What kind of monster would hate and kill babies that have nothing to do with her life ? If she doesn’t like the job , she can easily transfer to another dept that do not have any interaction with babies/children.
Bloody insane
why?
So the post-it note was written after the first arrest or when?
The only justice would be lifelong torture.
The other prisoners will make ur wish come true.
Yes female inmates that have harmed babies are treated like pedophiles in male prison. Ie the lowest of the low
@@swymaj02Lmao there’s no guarantee for that.
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@@lilhoneybun5390 you must be absolutely delusional if you think the women, some of them mothers, won't get to her at some point in prison.... It's pretty much guaranteed. It's like saying a child molestorer won't get what they deserve in men's prisons... guaranteed!
Take your pick: mad, bad or sad what motivates anyone. I suppose Lucy will end up in a special hospital ie Broadmoor ? In any event care of her in the prison service will be difficult.