The other drivers were on wets which will obviously make them drive differently and also defending changes the line. He is very good but other drivers are all professionals as well. It's absurd to state that they cannot drive as well because of their racing lines.
@@benvorbeck it's absurd to say that I said that they cannot drive. Also having another tire doesn't change the racing line if conditions are the same for both. The other drivers clearly just drove way safer, for which the line is a perfect indicator.
well irl you have g-forces and overall you feel a lot more what's happening with the car :) you can't unfortunately simulate everything :) like some drivers can be fantastic irl but crap in sims and vice versa :)
@@GopNet yeah I would say I have good racecraft eith all my irl racing experience. And although I never driven a racecar around a track. I've came to the conclusion that I think racing in real life would be eiser to be consistent. I try to treat I racing like real life and practice as if it was real and if I crash get off. And I still ef up. It's like how these guys doing it for 6 to 8 hours
Good call! I was watching this via the Manthey onboard the whole way, so I actually had no idea what position they were in for a majority of the race. Was too enthralled by the driving itself.
@@Ermz Yeah he never actually got to first in this video. the #4 HRT AMG i think driven by Engal fucked off sharrpish, I think they would of won if they didnt put it into the wall near the end
Yeah, I don't know why everyone forgot about the #4 AMG. Kevin was in 2nd place by the end of this clip. The #4 was MR's biggest competition, until it hit the wall. Regardless a master class drive by Kevin Estre.
Kevin Estre still hadn't won the N24 yet before this happened so he was most certainly on a mission. :p Despite people already said that he was the King of Nordschleife beforehand. He also set a lap record in a stock Porsche 911 RS MR (MR stands for the Manthey-Racing parts and setup) a few weeks prior to this event. Great coverage by Misha Charoudin on his YT channel.
I love how that pass on the M6 was basically hopes and dreams. He found a slightly less wet patch, pointed the car straight and just gave it the beans hoping that his rear engine traction and TCS should probably keep him from binning it.
Even as a Ferrari fan I think Kevin Estre is one of the best if not the best GT racing driver. He makes it look like he's going against Am drivers. He's just absolutely amazing anywhere in a Porsche. The man set the GTE lap record at Spa and dominated the 6h of Spa earlier this year. Then he goes on to win the 24h of Nurburgring with this masterclass driving, he was on full attack, driving the wheels off that 911 GT3R for that entire race.
If I remember correctly almost everyone of the GT3 teams started on cut slicks. So in NLS or N24h there are cut slicks, inters, full wets and heavy wets as tyres for rainy conditions. They all started on cut slicks or maybe some on inters. But the front running cars Mercedes #4, Rowe BMW #1 and so on all went for cut slicks. Manthey did as well. So he actually didn't have that much of a tyre advantage. He just got them to work really well. He seriously did some terrific stints there.
crazy how the fight from 3rd to 2nd felt so much more intense than the entirety of 11th-3rd. that fake was unreal, my eyes were GLUED and i had no idea it was coming. Unreal driving and a great commentary out of you :)
@@jussieronen3707 yup. you need to bring a lot of money to the table before you can even talk to an F1 team. but sadly, at 33, the chances of an F1 drive are very likely over.
i think the key word here is "relentless", even if he can't pass every time he trys, he is putting so much pressure on the opponent and slowly but surely gets into their heads, thats masterclass driving right there.
Yes the "Grellow" livery is amazing. My all time favorite livery is still the 991 RSR "Pink Pig" of 2018 which won LeMan. So many great liveries that the GT3R and RSR have donned over the past few years! 😁👍
@@HonestDiecast i love the pink pig as well ln Gran Turismo sport i made an exact replica livery on tbr 911 GT3 RSR '17, THE 1995 911 Carrrera RS CS (993) '95 model was ny fsvorite thst i put in on. Been sending 3 to t5 houtrs most evert dsy day juzt to qualify for then obtajn ny driverd license. GT7 is anazing
Imagine being Kevin and people watching in amazement how you did a god drive. It's for life, I think I can speak for many others, especially the ones that were watching this live: I will never forget this one stint that was an absolute joy to watch. Poor other drivers. Kevin just owned it.
I always find it so much more interesting to watch these races with these kind of commentary in it. I can only wish I can be that insane. Keven really knows what to do, when to do it and how to do it!
Definitely agree with your comment, it’s always cool when a professional driver is equally as surprised or excited by a move as we are, to let us know that it in fact was a crazy move!
I like how he pulls that brilliant unexpected 2nd (actually 3rd) place overtake just as you were explaining how much less risky his maneuvers were gradually becoming
Great commentary Erm but I'd had a few notes: - as others mentioned, this was a run from P11 to P2, at this point Luca Stolz was leading about 7-10 seconds ahead - the actual overtake from P2 to P1 was on the Doettinger Hoehe I think in the 4th lap. You actually show it at 1:13. - You mistook Aremberg for Schwedenkreuz. Schwedenkreuz is a fast left curve before that slow right-hand curve of Aremberg - Of course, despite Stolz being officially in P1, we all know that the real P2 to P1 overtake was when Kevin overtook the #118 Dacia Logan. I mean, they even won the race, they got the checkered just before the official winner, Kevin Estre in the #911 :))
10:52 - You can actually benefit from the end of the AMG-Arena which widens the track a lot. What I mean by this is, that you have only one key-point (the green part on the outside before the end of the AMG Arena) which you want to avoid especially in the wet and open your steering much more than you usually would do. Due to this he take an early and narrow apex to take more momentum out of the corner.
10:50 This looks just like the shortest possible line through those two apexes! And because he has such outstanding car control, he doesn't care about that big "bump" in the first right hander.
Kevin estre is just mastering this car. But my Personal fav driver is Timo Bernard. The Word Record holder on the Nordschleife. Maybe you can react to that?
I was convinced this was sim-racing up until the crash on lap 3, for some reason, so WOW! That kind of driving I can do in sim, because there is no risk more than your pride, but racing on slicks in rain IRL? BRASS BALLS!
That is the reason why I can never enjoy a Formula 1 race again. I've been completely enthusiastic about GT3 races on the Nordschleife for years. This is real racing!
If you think this is incredible, you have to watch f1 Brazilian gp in 2021, the recovery drive from Lewis was incredible. You need to watch the entire weekend.
14:37 - What you may not know is that the wet line is exactly Kevin's line. BMW was not really faking it - he just tried to close any gap on the inside and had therefore brake earlier than Kevin.
I drive this track in rFactor2 many many times ... but in real here what kevin here did is amazing. this Manthey Porsche is such a great car but to drive like this you need the balls :-) fantastic job
The lineup for that car is epic. Christensen, Estre, Vanthoor. All top drawer picks imho. Estre has had the most exciting moments of the lot though. This and the pass on the grass.
1 Stunning drive that began with a great setup gamble 😲. 2 Commentary... Excellent emotional appreciation of skill 😃. 3 Commentary... Would benefit from re-scripting eg corner names and repeated adjectives 😳. 4 Video... Estre slid off after P2 but continued, right? Highlights of his race to the finish could be a very nice post-script eg pitting, passes, and race end 😳. 5 Overall... Loved the video (auto-captions made me laugh too). Came to it from struggles with "U"-class Forza 2 (XBox 360!) so, all hail Kevin Estre's epic drive and thanks for showing it off 🌞.
i you watched the live stream , you would have seen that kevins tires were slicks but with two lines carved in the middle by a mechanic , they showed the machanic doing it on TV
Now that we have dynamic weather, could we in the future start to be able to dial that in even more if we choose? For example choosing 4 different weathers over the course of a race (we can do that now). But also using a percentage for each weather for how long it will last. For example weather one will last 25% of the race, weather two 50 % until we get all four weathers and = 100%? I know we can do weather progression 2x up to 60x, but they are all still an even amount of time. I would like to be able to choose a % of time each weather will last. Real world weather does not always last for example 30 minutes and then goes to the next for 30 minutes.
If anyone is wondering… That fake too the outside on lap 3 was essentially the same as “Nutmegging” a professional footballer! 😂 The BMW driver would have sunk into his seat there in a “DOH” moment. 😁 …As for Kev. He just isn’t MORTAL when He’s having his day! 🤯
BTW he wasn't on slicks. He was on slitted slicks. Which is slick tyres that have cuts (slits ) so it's able to handle water going on between the gaps (like with inters or wets). So he's able to adapt to both conditions
I noticed a little move that very few people can master... I see him hit the curb a bit and sometimes deep which helps with understeer... It's a move I love using in sim racing and irl... It's amazing for overtakes and it's extremly stressful depending on the car
Oh man its lovely to see the enthusiasm from down under for Estre, his driving was sublime. that's an understatement. I live about 3 hours away from the Nordschleife and the rain there was also coming this way, so in some it felt like i was also interacting with the race. I watched this video in awe, and im applying techniques that Kevin is using here in ACC online. Such as constantly poking holes, Looking to overtake just using that massive pressure on your opponents
You can see in EVERY corner, that he is using more of the track than everyone infront. What a legendary drive
That's because everyone else was on wets. This would have been a different outcome if the others were on slicks
@@SlightlyPro_ true but he is the best at the ring in the best porsche team
The other drivers were on wets which will obviously make them drive differently and also defending changes the line. He is very good but other drivers are all professionals as well. It's absurd to state that they cannot drive as well because of their racing lines.
@@benvorbeck it's absurd to say that I said that they cannot drive. Also having another tire doesn't change the racing line if conditions are the same for both. The other drivers clearly just drove way safer, for which the line is a perfect indicator.
Only p1 showed the confidence to keep him back.
Kevin Estre is an absolute BEAST in a GT3 car. His 2019 overtake on the grass at the N24 is still legend.
Heartbroken in LM24 and N24, he can win both but fate says different way
Is he the dude that went 3 wide on the grass?
They're braver drivers IRL than I am in a sim /: Amazing to watch!
well irl you have g-forces and overall you feel a lot more what's happening with the car :) you can't unfortunately simulate everything :) like some drivers can be fantastic irl but crap in sims and vice versa :)
@@GopNet smile :)
@@tewbs always :)
@@GopNet yeah I would say I have good racecraft eith all my irl racing experience. And although I never driven a racecar around a track. I've came to the conclusion that I think racing in real life would be eiser to be consistent. I try to treat I racing like real life and practice as if it was real and if I crash get off. And I still ef up. It's like how these guys doing it for 6 to 8 hours
I think you forgot about that AMG that just blasted everyone and had almost a 10 sec gap after lap 1. It's still a very enjoyable watch.
Luca Stolz was driving
Good call! I was watching this via the Manthey onboard the whole way, so I actually had no idea what position they were in for a majority of the race. Was too enthralled by the driving itself.
@@Ermz Yeah he never actually got to first in this video. the #4 HRT AMG i think driven by Engal fucked off sharrpish, I think they would of won if they didnt put it into the wall near the end
Yeah, I don't know why everyone forgot about the #4 AMG. Kevin was in 2nd place by the end of this clip. The #4 was MR's biggest competition, until it hit the wall. Regardless a master class drive by Kevin Estre.
@@Ermz 2 screens can easily solve that problem. I was watching Kev's stream as well on my big screen, but had the main broadcast on my laptop.
Kevin Estre is an absolute psychopath and I love him for it 😂
Thanks for sharing man, Kevin Estre is a dear friend and he deserve to be well know by the entire world 🌎 🙂
who are you lmao
@@Sexiestmanalive01 fake seb vettel
@@Sexiestmanalive01 the guy who uploaded the video duh . He literally knows Kevin and drives on the nordschleiffe a lot too . Who are you lmao ?
Kevin Estre still hadn't won the N24 yet before this happened so he was most certainly on a mission. :p
Despite people already said that he was the King of Nordschleife beforehand.
He also set a lap record in a stock Porsche 911 RS MR (MR stands for the Manthey-Racing parts and setup) a few weeks prior to this event. Great coverage by Misha Charoudin on his YT channel.
Master of the Nordschilife, Legendary driver
and the mr package is 146k
I love how that pass on the M6 was basically hopes and dreams. He found a slightly less wet patch, pointed the car straight and just gave it the beans hoping that his rear engine traction and TCS should probably keep him from binning it.
That man is on fire, he drove the wheels off of that 911!
Even as a Ferrari fan I think Kevin Estre is one of the best if not the best GT racing driver. He makes it look like he's going against Am drivers. He's just absolutely amazing anywhere in a Porsche. The man set the GTE lap record at Spa and dominated the 6h of Spa earlier this year. Then he goes on to win the 24h of Nurburgring with this masterclass driving, he was on full attack, driving the wheels off that 911 GT3R for that entire race.
One thing i loved about 4:20 is that he knew he had the "wet line" so he could push more then the Lambo at that moment.
The gears whine of the Porsche is heavenly.
If I remember correctly almost everyone of the GT3 teams started on cut slicks. So in NLS or N24h there are cut slicks, inters, full wets and heavy wets as tyres for rainy conditions. They all started on cut slicks or maybe some on inters. But the front running cars Mercedes #4, Rowe BMW #1 and so on all went for cut slicks. Manthey did as well. So he actually didn't have that much of a tyre advantage. He just got them to work really well. He seriously did some terrific stints there.
That's even more impressive!
crazy how the fight from 3rd to 2nd felt so much more intense than the entirety of 11th-3rd. that fake was unreal, my eyes were GLUED and i had no idea it was coming. Unreal driving and a great commentary out of you :)
Give this man an F1 seat. Pure pure talent
F1 only hires fresh choir boys to drive their pocket rockets
@@PieZello Sponsorship money is the most important part, then comes talent in second place
F1 is Pussy and Rich People Sport
@@jussieronen3707 yup. you need to bring a lot of money to the table before you can even talk to an F1 team. but sadly, at 33, the chances of an F1 drive are very likely over.
i think this gt class is harder than f1
Kevin Estre is a Monster in that Porsche
i think the key word here is "relentless", even if he can't pass every time he trys, he is putting so much pressure on the opponent and slowly but surely gets into their heads, thats masterclass driving right there.
Fun fact: after overtaking the ROWE M6 he was in P2, not P1 (at the end of your video) :D Someone didn't watch the race...
He said he watched this onboard live not the whole race broadcast so he might have not seen the amg
Who cares? We know who ended up P1 at the checkered so... 😁
00:03:53 he passes the R8 on the left with that small amount of space, how on Earth did he do that??
My only explanation is he moved the car through a 4th dimension somehow 🤷😂
that pass for p2 was straight out of a video game
Wow.... just WOW!!!! That livery is hands down the best in all of racing. Thanks again for the link in RF2. Cheers
Yes the "Grellow" livery is amazing. My all time favorite livery is still the 991 RSR "Pink Pig" of 2018 which won LeMan. So many great liveries that the GT3R and RSR have donned over the past few years! 😁👍
@@HonestDiecast i love the pink pig as well ln Gran Turismo sport i made an exact replica livery on tbr 911 GT3 RSR '17, THE 1995 911 Carrrera RS CS (993) '95 model was ny fsvorite thst i put in on. Been sending 3 to t5 houtrs most evert dsy day juzt to qualify for then obtajn ny driverd license. GT7 is anazing
It's nice to know there's other people in the world passionate about these things. Just watching him sit there smiling, & watching is something else.
The overtake @ 14:30 , just wow
Kevin is the text book definition of "I'm going to win or die trying"... literally.
Imagine being Kevin and people watching in amazement how you did a god drive. It's for life, I think I can speak for many others, especially the ones that were watching this live: I will never forget this one stint that was an absolute joy to watch. Poor other drivers. Kevin just owned it.
I always find it so much more interesting to watch these races with these kind of commentary in it. I can only wish I can be that insane. Keven really knows what to do, when to do it and how to do it!
Definitely agree with your comment, it’s always cool when a professional driver is equally as surprised or excited by a move as we are, to let us know that it in fact was a crazy move!
His braking is on another level
I like how he pulls that brilliant unexpected 2nd (actually 3rd) place overtake just as you were explaining how much less risky his maneuvers were gradually becoming
Great commentary Erm but I'd had a few notes:
- as others mentioned, this was a run from P11 to P2, at this point Luca Stolz was leading about 7-10 seconds ahead
- the actual overtake from P2 to P1 was on the Doettinger Hoehe I think in the 4th lap. You actually show it at 1:13.
- You mistook Aremberg for Schwedenkreuz. Schwedenkreuz is a fast left curve before that slow right-hand curve of Aremberg
- Of course, despite Stolz being officially in P1, we all know that the real P2 to P1 overtake was when Kevin overtook the #118 Dacia Logan. I mean, they even won the race, they got the checkered just before the official winner, Kevin Estre in the #911 :))
I was watching the race live and directly fell in love whit that porsche and gt3
its insane how good these drivers are, balls of steel.
10:52 - You can actually benefit from the end of the AMG-Arena which widens the track a lot. What I mean by this is, that you have only one key-point (the green part on the outside before the end of the AMG Arena) which you want to avoid especially in the wet and open your steering much more than you usually would do. Due to this he take an early and narrow apex to take more momentum out of the corner.
wrong
Drinking game: 1 shot for each time he says “absolutely” or “masterclass”
i dont want to die 😂
why am I only seeing this after a year 😭😭. This was probably the best driving I've seen. UA-cam recommendations are stellar
Me:
Watching GT3 racing with subtitles
UA-cam:
[Music]
well they are not lying
as a noob, your commentary was really helpful to get the insight of whats going on. nice !
10:50 This looks just like the shortest possible line through those two apexes! And because he has such outstanding car control, he doesn't care about that big "bump" in the first right hander.
The car you see in the distance a few times was P1 (#4 AMG).
Best drive I've seen period. Estre is king of the ring no doubt!
Kevin estre is just mastering this car. But my Personal fav driver is Timo Bernard. The Word Record holder on the Nordschleife. Maybe you can react to that?
Incredible race, great performance from Estre and the whole Manthey racing team.
I was convinced this was sim-racing up until the crash on lap 3, for some reason, so WOW!
That kind of driving I can do in sim, because there is no risk more than your pride, but racing on slicks in rain IRL?
BRASS BALLS!
Brilliant video, would love to see more content like this!
I think the AMG of Lucas Stoltz was 10sec ahead but still a legendary drive though
Overtake for P2 was just so disrespectful 🤣🤣😂 awesome driving!
Absolutely incredible drive, one to be remembered for a long time
schweden kreis is not the rigt hander. its is called Aremberg, Schweden Kreuz is the left over the Crest.
Great video!! Thanks for this one💫🏁 Masterful Drive by Kevin in the GRELLO 💚💛
As German im Super astonished by your Pronounciation of different parts of the Track!
No Butchering at all !
Give us the Nordschleife in ACC Kunos
And the Dacia!
@@jaccovdzaag In my head I'm seeing James May saying " great news the Dacia Sandro is coming to ACC"
That will NEVER happen because of licensing. They will do it for AC2 for sure
@@kev.kaviation1751 A man can only dream :)
Nordschleife + BMW m2 cs and cayman cup.
Then we have Gt3, 911 Cup, GT 4, Cayman cup and BMW m2 cs Cup.
Perfect 24h/Nls dlc.
That is the reason why I can never enjoy a Formula 1 race again. I've been completely enthusiastic about GT3 races on the Nordschleife for years. This is real racing!
He is using every inch of the track. What an absolutle madlad!
If you think this is incredible, you have to watch f1 Brazilian gp in 2021, the recovery drive from Lewis was incredible. You need to watch the entire weekend.
i would love for you to make more videos like this! those 23 min went by so fast!
Such an incredible piece of racing footage! So much bravery and commitment, win well and truly deserved 👏🏻
It is weird that I looked down to the bottom right after the overtake at 5:32 to watch the blue arrow of the Porche go behind us on the radar?
14:37 - What you may not know is that the wet line is exactly Kevin's line. BMW was not really faking it - he just tried to close any gap on the inside and had therefore brake earlier than Kevin.
Kevin Estre is highly underrated race driver for many years!!!
Porsche Cup, GT Masters he tore it all down...
Want to see him in a wec
He drives for the Porsche team in WEC for years now.
Wonderful experience riding with him… made it look easy and I know for a fact it’s not easy.👍🏼👍🏼
Videos like this get me so hype, definitely my ultimate dream to have a career in racing and this only makes me want to get into it more :)
I drive this track in rFactor2 many many times ... but in real here what kevin here did is amazing. this Manthey Porsche is such a great car but to drive like this you need the balls :-) fantastic job
And different to what some guys wrote - the fact that the others are kickass drivers as well, makes this even more astonishing
Kevin Estre and Porsche is just a match made in heaven
you can see that perfect racing line and him toying with the throttle pushing it to the absolute limits
Did Estre start on normal slicks? Because I thought he started on cut slicks to have at least some performance on a wet track.
I'm pretty sure it was cut slicks, I remember hearing the commentators saying something about that.
“Love the sound of that gearbox. I could go to sleep to that at night.”
Team: its an endurance race dont put too much effort in too early
Estre: yo check this out bro
The lineup for that car is epic. Christensen, Estre, Vanthoor.
All top drawer picks imho. Estre has had the most exciting moments of the lot though. This and the pass on the grass.
Do they use spur gears in racing
Great commentary speaking from the fans watching POV. Thanks for this Ermin 👍 Masterclass indeed
1 Stunning drive that began with a great setup gamble 😲. 2 Commentary... Excellent emotional appreciation of skill 😃. 3 Commentary... Would benefit from re-scripting eg corner names and repeated adjectives 😳. 4 Video... Estre slid off after P2 but continued, right? Highlights of his race to the finish could be a very nice post-script eg pitting, passes, and race end 😳. 5 Overall... Loved the video (auto-captions made me laugh too). Came to it from struggles with "U"-class Forza 2 (XBox 360!) so, all hail Kevin Estre's epic drive and thanks for showing it off 🌞.
Insanely brave or insanely mad? Never mind. Kevin Estre successor of Sabine Schmitz driving style. Masterful driving. ;-)
19:05 I peed a little, but this man's massive gonads of steel kept him planted to the track.
i you watched the live stream , you would have seen that kevins tires were slicks but with two lines carved in the middle by a mechanic , they showed the machanic doing it on TV
His exit speeds are just absolutely insane compared to the rest of the field. What a drive!
How hard do you want the AI to be?
Kevin Estre: YES.
Kevin Estre is the goat, got to meet him once at spa 24h when he won with the gulf livery porsche
man kevin really made those tires work! what a drive by him
well with all due respect, Kevin Estre is a 4-time champion and a Factory Porsche driver, one of the best in the business.
Now that we have dynamic weather, could we in the future start to be able to dial that in even more if we choose? For example choosing 4 different weathers over the course of a race (we can do that now). But also using a percentage for each weather for how long it will last. For example weather one will last 25% of the race, weather two 50 % until we get all four weathers and = 100%? I know we can do weather progression 2x up to 60x, but they are all still an even amount of time. I would like to be able to choose a % of time each weather will last. Real world weather does not always last for example 30 minutes and then goes to the next for 30 minutes.
If anyone is wondering… That fake too the outside on lap 3 was essentially the same as “Nutmegging” a professional footballer! 😂
The BMW driver would have sunk into his seat there in a “DOH” moment. 😁
…As for Kev. He just isn’t MORTAL when He’s having his day! 🤯
BTW he wasn't on slicks. He was on slitted slicks. Which is slick tyres that have cuts (slits ) so it's able to handle water going on between the gaps (like with inters or wets). So he's able to adapt to both conditions
The track is about an hour drive from where i live, I basically grew up there
Just amazing!
I noticed a little move that very few people can master... I see him hit the curb a bit and sometimes deep which helps with understeer... It's a move I love using in sim racing and irl... It's amazing for overtakes and it's extremly stressful depending on the car
Kevin Estre is probably one of the best GT3 and Nordschleife driver on this planet.
Must be really inspiring for sim race gamers to watch someone do something like this in real life...
you can feel that kevin is using the weight of his balls to keep himself on track
Kiss You Good Buy by T-Square in the beggining of the video it's a touch of class
FunFact: I was on the Mainstraight tribune
I skimmed the title and I thought this was a sim race. The visuals are getting so good I’m starting to confuse reality with games
Best GT driver on the planet, simple as that.
This guy is channeling Sabine Schmitz from beyond the grave, no doubt about it
this is why kevin estre is my favorite WEC driver
I'm so glad someone like you did this. Fantastic
👍👍👍
I watched this race live!
Kevin stands in one row with Walter Röhrl!
is this real or sim? if sim, whats the game?
@@remorema real
Beautiful racing and nice commentating
18:53..would have shit my pants..next level brake control
What an incredible drive. Even the highlight reel didn't quite do it justice just how impressive this section was. Madness.
Oh man its lovely to see the enthusiasm from down under for Estre, his driving was sublime. that's an understatement. I live about 3 hours away from the Nordschleife and the rain there was also coming this way, so in some it felt like i was also interacting with the race. I watched this video in awe, and im applying techniques that Kevin is using here in ACC online. Such as constantly poking holes, Looking to overtake just using that massive pressure on your opponents
This was just facinating to watch