I’m excited to see what the book has entailed. As someone who plays Cyberpunk Red I’m excited for an expansion that brings the game close to the 2077 year
I think its a missed opportunity to say that V would have been the legends of legends if the player chose the don't fear the reaper ending. Imagine the shock it would cause the world when news gets out that a single person attacks the arasaka nc head quarters and succeed. Even taking down adam smasher in the process.
@MaxRegistrator I honestly think his cyberspychosis give him a better chance. You think he'd have a better chance using his brain/experience? No, cyberspychos don't feel pain and they're super unpredictable (especially one with a sandevistan)
@@sp00kyd4ddy6 Smasher has been described as a high functioning cyberpsycho so if anything, David's cyberpsychosis put him at a disadvantage as it was uncontrolled.
id argue that just getting to max street cred is when V really becomes a NC legend, especially in any ending where you siege out Arakaki Tower which is a lot of them. The Sun is just the only ending where V themselves really even cares about that kind of thing, all of the others is V moving on with their life for better or worse. It's really rare, like it only happens like 3 or 4 time all together in game, but in certain dialogue options people will either recognize you or you can ever scare people off with your name and legend alone with a high enough street cred. We just never see V take that final step to get a drink named after them at the Afterlife.
@@vamercy8478 It's his favorite cocktail maybe, but the idea that it's an Afterlife special meant to memorialize him specifically is only ever introduced to us through Claire. That isn't so weird, it's like Arnold Palmer inventing a tea and lemonade mix and having that drink named over him. My dad once accidentally mixed pineapple and tomato juice as a kid and still enjoys drinking that mix. But that's just people inventing recipes sometimes.
Sadly, outside of V and Claire remembering his memory, I don't think Jackie has much of a rep. He didn't really have much a track record of impressive feats and everybody thought Dexter was just a tool. If he's remembered at all, they'll just know he was one of countless mercs that bit it because they took the wrong job. If Jackie died taking out Saburo, crashing Mikoshi or zeroing Adam Smasher, that'd be different. But that's not what he was there for. I think V could've died in the middle of the Mikoshi raid and still would've been considered a legend, since backdooring Alt into Mikoshi virtually guarantees Arasaka's complete financial ruin in Night City. And V already did a bunch of impressive things before that. Honestly, I don't think Johnny Silverhand was that impressive for a Night City Legend overall. I think most of his reputation comes from being a famous musician, but he was only partially responsible for nuking Arasaka tower. Johnny himself was part of a larger strike team. He was just retroactively blamed for that to deflect blame from Militech and Adam Smasher killed him. But most of the public doesn't know what happened on that night. Probably only Rogue, the Alt construct and Adam Smasher really remember that night by 2077.
@@ved2360to be a night city legend you don’t need to be a merc or solo. you just need to make an everlasting stamp on the city. which is what Johnny did. your point of his legend status not very impressive because of his prior fame in my opinion works against your own argument. he was the leading man of the most influential band in all of night city’s history. he single-handedly changed the narrative of hundreds of soldiers lives and legacies with one album, after the whole country had been hating them due to the smear campaign the US government made against them. even after his death, he was still making monumental moves. V doesn’t live without him, V doesn’t become the legend they become without Johnny silverhand. his songs aren’t just entertainment, they’re protests, exposés, whistleblows, riot starters, love stories, and cautionary tales. and i believe that his music is the main reason he is such a legend, and it is a damn good one at that. that Texas boy is an NC legend’s legend through and through
Legends don't have to still be alive... I would argue the most legendary version of V is the Don't Fear the Reaper ending. The absolute fucking *AUDACITY* to just... walk through Arisaka's front door alone and throw down against their entire security force, including Adam Smasher, *AND WIN* is probably something to make V an even bigger legend than Johnny Silverhand.
Good sir, the production values on your videos are great! You have a great voice, and I enjoy listening to you when I'm farming a new toon in cp2077. These videos are grossly underrated, and I'm surprised and disappointed that people don't drop more likes. Thank you for your time.
Just goes to show you how good the game can be my choom,I got 318 hours logged in on my ps5 got it day one for the ps4 and then I upgraded to ps5 version. I absolutely love this game choom.
@@deegomez8813 Been on PC since launch. 943 hrs as of this post and I'm still finding new things and ways to play. The random Easter egg references are all over the place. I've avoided content spoiling them so I could discover them myself organically. It's been a wild ride though I admit i hope come Orion we see V again depending on what ending you've chosen; even as a random encounter
Details you missed for johnny: Johnnys father sold him out at only 4 for just a pack of cigarettes and he was raised by nomads afterwards his cyberhand which he referred to as "the hand" had cyberpsychosis leading it to act on its own. Johnnys car originally was yorinobus which johnny robbed after shooting out the tires this explains why johnny thought they were getting back at him Spider Murphy invited johnny to bomb arasaka without militechs knowledge but he tagged along anyways and as far as his ingram memories go its been said by the writers that his memories are unreliable for many reasons main being because of radiation damage Johnnys been trapped for 50 years in the ingram with nothing but his thoughts alongside the damage it took so of course he doesn't remember everything correctly so There's only 2 ways to look at why johnny has blackhands memories A being the ingram is trying to make sense of everything without the knowledge of spider Murphy possessing the soul killers program B being that arasaka nabbed up johnny and soul killed him these are just the main details you missed
Damn. I mean it’s nice and all, but I was personally hoping for a coop instance for friends trying to do the story or missions together. Maybe one day.
Put bluntly, Jackie didn't have a rep or the skills to justify it. And he didn't really accomplish anything by dying in the Konpeki heist. As you say, V still zeroes Smasher in most endings of the game. And otherwise just does bonkers stuff like launch a half-dead cyborg into orbit while spiting the NUSA or completely ruining Arasaka as an empire in some of the others. And that's before you include the things V does like crashing the power grid, being involved in the ruination of the Pacifica Voodoo boys and just generally having a good rep with the minor side fixers of the game. Keep in mind, V is a solo in every sense of the word and accomplishes Gigs they shouldn't be able to without a team, which is already really impressive. The sad reality is that we never get to see what Jackie was capable of and he might've even been a lot less talented than V. As it's not everyday some solo merc can just walk into a gang's compound and take out their leader or destroy a drug lab, completely without any external support. And depending on how you play V, they can do it completely nonlethally or as a ghost nobody ever catches sight of.
@@ved2360 I wouldn’t say Jackie didn’t have the skill, not when he’s been a Valentino since he was a teenager. We don’t get to see what he would have become but let’s not forget that if you take down Royce you do not do it alone, Jackie is there and by association takes down Royce too. If you start as Corpo it’s Jackie that’s V’s established contacts for certain gigs they need Jackie to do for them and this establishes the fact that they have rapport. Again we don’t get to see what would become of Jackie had he lived but to say he lacked skills is a disingenuous to his character. You could argue he was on par with V prior to his death; especially when you consider V having Johnny allows them to chrome up to the degree that they do and avoid death plenty of times. Wanted to say I love your comment btw, I do not mean to come off rude at all, despite me disagreeing with your take.
@@Flameville I mean skills on the level of endgame V or Morgan Blackhand. One of the main analyses of the Konpeki heist was that neither V or Jackie were good enough for it. Neither was T-Bug. Dexter was desperate to find disposable talent, but his reputation was so bad at that point that he couldn't afford top talent at Afterlife. For example, Nyx is right there and is better than T-Bug, Weyland's son is a good pilot and wheelman and Rogue wouldn't touch Evelyn's offer. They were nowhere near ready for the big leagues at that point in their career. And if you ever felt uneasy at why some "big name Fixer" would pick Jackie or V, some small-time punks, that's because they were small-time punks and because Dexter was a disgraced Fixer nobody will work with.
I love the idea of someone learning if all these legends, and finding the jackie wells at the afterlife and getting excited to hear another story and people being like "oh uhh, he's some gonk who died in arisaka tower for that fuckup dex deshawn"
I think V definitely becomes a legend as well in the Aldecaldos ending because he successfully leads them on a raid of Arasaka tower, kills Adam smasher and gets out with a bunch of stolen Arasaka tech. Plus, if you open the character menu after going through Mikoshi, V's legend meter. is at 100%.
honestly, I think v is a night city legend long before the ending of 2077, just by completing all the gigs in night city you are by default the best merc at that time, put that on top of all the other missions and your team being held responsible for suburos death it's clear too see. I think the legend used in game is more a way of the characters legend status peaking as the pinnacle of all solo's ever. Also I think the phantom liberty ending is more of an open ended ending as like morgan black hand after the war, what else will v do?
I'd say V in The Sun AND Star ending are both legends. I even prefer Star V as a being a legend because you achieve taking down Smasher and Arasaka, become the NC legend, and just leave without giving a damn about obsessing over endless dreams anymore and potentially dying in the process
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Got an exciting video coming soon about the Edgerunners so if you want some untold Edgerunner lore get ready for my next video!
I’m excited to see what the book has entailed. As someone who plays Cyberpunk Red I’m excited for an expansion that brings the game close to the 2077 year
I think its a missed opportunity to say that V would have been the legends of legends if the player chose the don't fear the reaper ending. Imagine the shock it would cause the world when news gets out that a single person attacks the arasaka nc head quarters and succeed. Even taking down adam smasher in the process.
@@ronelicabandi9706 fax i loved that ending, also the implication that blue eyes could somehow help u
pretty much what I was going to say but actually in a coherent manner lol
That ending and Panam are the best but Fear the Reaper is just magfkingnificent.
The thing about night city legends is that they never fade away
I see what you did there you legend
It’s really… a thing of beauty
Reading this "makes me feel better"
damn, son
They really... had to pay the price
"With David being distracted momentarily"
I love David, but distraction or not, David never stood a chance against Smasher, let's be honest 😂
No, he didn't. Also because Davie was only half conciouss by that point ans Smasher was fully capable
@MaxRegistrator I honestly think his cyberspychosis give him a better chance. You think he'd have a better chance using his brain/experience? No, cyberspychos don't feel pain and they're super unpredictable (especially one with a sandevistan)
@@calebmufcthompson he had the will but not the mind
@@sp00kyd4ddy6 Smasher has been described as a high functioning cyberpsycho so if anything, David's cyberpsychosis put him at a disadvantage as it was uncontrolled.
David really thought he was special
Smasher: that's cute.
id argue that just getting to max street cred is when V really becomes a NC legend, especially in any ending where you siege out Arakaki Tower which is a lot of them. The Sun is just the only ending where V themselves really even cares about that kind of thing, all of the others is V moving on with their life for better or worse. It's really rare, like it only happens like 3 or 4 time all together in game, but in certain dialogue options people will either recognize you or you can ever scare people off with your name and legend alone with a high enough street cred. We just never see V take that final step to get a drink named after them at the Afterlife.
Kinda like Morrigan blackhand
The thing is that the drink seems to be an informal custom that Claire invented as the bartender as her way of memorializing the mercs there.
Hey, don’t fear the reaper
@@ved2360its not since johnny drink was around pre her being born
@@vamercy8478
It's his favorite cocktail maybe, but the idea that it's an Afterlife special meant to memorialize him specifically is only ever introduced to us through Claire.
That isn't so weird, it's like Arnold Palmer inventing a tea and lemonade mix and having that drink named over him. My dad once accidentally mixed pineapple and tomato juice as a kid and still enjoys drinking that mix. But that's just people inventing recipes sometimes.
Jackie should be a NC legend. He died pulling the craziest heist ever
true
He was nobody compared to others.
Sadly, outside of V and Claire remembering his memory, I don't think Jackie has much of a rep. He didn't really have much a track record of impressive feats and everybody thought Dexter was just a tool. If he's remembered at all, they'll just know he was one of countless mercs that bit it because they took the wrong job. If Jackie died taking out Saburo, crashing Mikoshi or zeroing Adam Smasher, that'd be different. But that's not what he was there for.
I think V could've died in the middle of the Mikoshi raid and still would've been considered a legend, since backdooring Alt into Mikoshi virtually guarantees Arasaka's complete financial ruin in Night City. And V already did a bunch of impressive things before that.
Honestly, I don't think Johnny Silverhand was that impressive for a Night City Legend overall. I think most of his reputation comes from being a famous musician, but he was only partially responsible for nuking Arasaka tower. Johnny himself was part of a larger strike team. He was just retroactively blamed for that to deflect blame from Militech and Adam Smasher killed him. But most of the public doesn't know what happened on that night. Probably only Rogue, the Alt construct and Adam Smasher really remember that night by 2077.
@@ved2360to be a night city legend you don’t need to be a merc or solo. you just need to make an everlasting stamp on the city. which is what Johnny did. your point of his legend status not very impressive because of his prior fame in my opinion works against your own argument. he was the leading man of the most influential band in all of night city’s history. he single-handedly changed the narrative of hundreds of soldiers lives and legacies with one album, after the whole country had been hating them due to the smear campaign the US government made against them. even after his death, he was still making monumental moves. V doesn’t live without him, V doesn’t become the legend they become without Johnny silverhand. his songs aren’t just entertainment, they’re protests, exposés, whistleblows, riot starters, love stories, and cautionary tales. and i believe that his music is the main reason he is such a legend, and it is a damn good one at that. that Texas boy is an NC legend’s legend through and through
Ppl die doing a lot of crazy stuff in nc, he didn’t do enough to reach legend
Legends don't have to still be alive... I would argue the most legendary version of V is the Don't Fear the Reaper ending. The absolute fucking *AUDACITY* to just... walk through Arisaka's front door alone and throw down against their entire security force, including Adam Smasher, *AND WIN* is probably something to make V an even bigger legend than Johnny Silverhand.
Playing this game, looking up the lore, and then finding your channel has made me obsessed with the genre.
1:25:00 The moment when killing Smasher a became personal goal for so many
Every Cyberpunk lore video is so amazing because it shows how in depth the world of cyberpunk is 🔥🔥
Good sir, the production values on your videos are great! You have a great voice, and I enjoy listening to you when I'm farming a new toon in cp2077. These videos are grossly underrated, and I'm surprised and disappointed that people don't drop more likes. Thank you for your time.
I loved the fact that you finally combined all the legend series into one full length documentary. Preem work Choom!!
He definitely needs his flowers for putting this much effort in these ❤
🎉
The lore is so deep, so mesmerizing and so unique, Mike Pondsmith did a hell of a job and CDPR just made it legendary AF
Love listening to these during work preem work choom
This channel is so useful as a way to understand and learn lore
Great video as always!🔥
Aannnnnddddd just like that i’ve found myself playing CP2077 for the umteenth time… again… lol
Just goes to show you how good the game can be my choom,I got 318 hours logged in on my ps5 got it day one for the ps4 and then I upgraded to ps5 version. I absolutely love this game choom.
@@deegomez8813 been on PC since launch too. It’s been a wild ride
@@deegomez8813 Been on PC since launch. 943 hrs as of this post and I'm still finding new things and ways to play. The random Easter egg references are all over the place. I've avoided content spoiling them so I could discover them myself organically. It's been a wild ride though I admit i hope come Orion we see V again depending on what ending you've chosen;
even as a random encounter
Same. It's on my top 3 games ever.
I think CP2077 will achieve long-term "every time someone talks about it someone reinstalls it" status like VTMB
Jackie has to be considered a Legend, since he got his drink in the Afterlife
Game’s amazing. Although playing it you feel like there isn’t enough of it to go around, not enough substantial side quest.
Anyone else audibly just groan when somebody mentions brain dances
Amazing job with all this lore! Well played.
Great video, it was so comprehensive, I can't imagine how much work it took!
Excellent video. Love the lore.
So, it was Spider Murphy that made the engram that's in V's head? That's a interesting tid bit if I u derstoof that correctly xD
arent u from the freshspawns channel? btw love the vids keep going❤🎉
Details you missed for johnny:
Johnnys father sold him out at only 4 for just a pack of cigarettes and he was raised by nomads afterwards
his cyberhand which he referred to as "the hand" had cyberpsychosis leading it to act on its own.
Johnnys car originally was yorinobus which johnny robbed after shooting out the tires
this explains why johnny thought they were getting back at him
Spider Murphy invited johnny to bomb arasaka without militechs knowledge but he tagged along anyways and as far as his ingram memories go its been said by the writers that his memories are unreliable for many reasons main being because of radiation damage
Johnnys been trapped for 50 years in the ingram with nothing but his thoughts alongside the damage it took so of course he doesn't remember everything correctly so
There's only 2 ways to look at why johnny has blackhands memories
A being the ingram is trying to make sense of everything without the knowledge of spider Murphy possessing the soul killers program
B being that arasaka nabbed up johnny and soul killed him
these are just the main details you missed
You forgot Jackie Wells
He was a nobody
@@OrphanCrippler1don't be a gonk! He was a mother fing legend, and you remember that.
@@OrphanCrippler1 he wasn't a nobody to me, don't forget where you come from.
Man I love your channel so much
Kerry eurodyne is EXACTLY 2 years older than me.. just learned that from this video
Damn. I mean it’s nice and all, but I was personally hoping for a coop instance for friends trying to do the story or missions together. Maybe one day.
A voice smooth as lamp oil. Preem work, choom
A star never fades in Night City
Yo WiseFish upload lesss gooooo (IK I'm late)
Morgan backhand is my favorite legend. Maybe because he makes me think of big boss. But I based my character off of him. Atleas tried too lol
Where is Jackie wells 😭he went out in a blaze. V is a legend no matter what ending because of smasher dying. Except for phantom liberty.
Put bluntly, Jackie didn't have a rep or the skills to justify it. And he didn't really accomplish anything by dying in the Konpeki heist. As you say, V still zeroes Smasher in most endings of the game. And otherwise just does bonkers stuff like launch a half-dead cyborg into orbit while spiting the NUSA or completely ruining Arasaka as an empire in some of the others.
And that's before you include the things V does like crashing the power grid, being involved in the ruination of the Pacifica Voodoo boys and just generally having a good rep with the minor side fixers of the game. Keep in mind, V is a solo in every sense of the word and accomplishes Gigs they shouldn't be able to without a team, which is already really impressive.
The sad reality is that we never get to see what Jackie was capable of and he might've even been a lot less talented than V. As it's not everyday some solo merc can just walk into a gang's compound and take out their leader or destroy a drug lab, completely without any external support. And depending on how you play V, they can do it completely nonlethally or as a ghost nobody ever catches sight of.
@@ved2360 I wouldn’t say Jackie didn’t have the skill, not when he’s been a Valentino since he was a teenager. We don’t get to see what he would have become but let’s not forget that if you take down Royce you do not do it alone, Jackie is there and by association takes down Royce too. If you start as Corpo it’s Jackie that’s V’s established contacts for certain gigs they need Jackie to do for them and this establishes the fact that they have rapport. Again we don’t get to see what would become of Jackie had he lived but to say he lacked skills is a disingenuous to his character. You could argue he was on par with V prior to his death; especially when you consider V having Johnny allows them to chrome up to the degree that they do and avoid death plenty of times.
Wanted to say I love your comment btw, I do not mean to come off rude at all, despite me disagreeing with your take.
@@Flameville
I mean skills on the level of endgame V or Morgan Blackhand.
One of the main analyses of the Konpeki heist was that neither V or Jackie were good enough for it. Neither was T-Bug. Dexter was desperate to find disposable talent, but his reputation was so bad at that point that he couldn't afford top talent at Afterlife. For example, Nyx is right there and is better than T-Bug, Weyland's son is a good pilot and wheelman and Rogue wouldn't touch Evelyn's offer.
They were nowhere near ready for the big leagues at that point in their career. And if you ever felt uneasy at why some "big name Fixer" would pick Jackie or V, some small-time punks, that's because they were small-time punks and because Dexter was a disgraced Fixer nobody will work with.
Fuck i love cyberpunk
Adam Smasher: Psycho Before Cyber...
Rogue's ending isn't the only legend ending as the best ending "Don't fear the reaper" also makes you an nc legend while keeping rogue alive.
Another great video and really well made!!!! Keep it up choomba!!!!
LONG video! awesome 👍👍👍
I love the idea of someone learning if all these legends, and finding the jackie wells at the afterlife and getting excited to hear another story and people being like "oh uhh, he's some gonk who died in arisaka tower for that fuckup dex deshawn"
I believe Morgan black hand died in arasaka tower as he was only meat and if it only disfigured smashers face there’s no way Morgan would have lived
I think V definitely becomes a legend as well in the Aldecaldos ending because he successfully leads them on a raid of Arasaka tower, kills Adam smasher and gets out with a bunch of stolen Arasaka tech. Plus, if you open the character menu after going through Mikoshi, V's legend meter. is at 100%.
honestly, I think v is a night city legend long before the ending of 2077, just by completing all the gigs in night city you are by default the best merc at that time, put that on top of all the other missions and your team being held responsible for suburos death it's clear too see. I think the legend used in game is more a way of the characters legend status peaking as the pinnacle of all solo's ever. Also I think the phantom liberty ending is more of an open ended ending as like morgan black hand after the war, what else will v do?
I'd say V in The Sun AND Star ending are both legends. I even prefer Star V as a being a legend because you achieve taking down Smasher and Arasaka, become the NC legend, and just leave without giving a damn about obsessing over endless dreams anymore and potentially dying in the process
sick vide. i love these long form
Hey Wisefish why does 6th Street have spooky music?
Babe…. Wake up…. New wisefish video
I’m sorry, JON JONES?!?!
@@dailenking3879 ion think he's a part of cyberpunk... Thankfully
Where can I find all of this lore in game?
I been thinking of jhonny what if his engram was the virus he uploaded and Morgan backhand was the one captured and uploaded
There more stories one about the God tier nova tech and cosmicwave owner sinistar and his groundbreaking elite clan of disc runners named cosmicrunners.
1:37:00 If you do don't fear the reaper Rogue will live
You forgot merc man
Night City. The Las Vegas of cyberpunk.
Night city is in California lol.
So it's more like LA
Jon Jones is in Cyberpunk? Huh
Hey everybody 😊
Favorite has to be black hand because his story is a need to know and not in the game which I like
1:37:45 - nope, the secret ending as well.
Poor spider Murphy :(
Morgan Blackhand
John Neptune.
why dumdum is not on this list , asking real questions
He was just a regular maelstrom member
@@Quockzynah dude hes dumdum, hes that guy
i liked the part where Rebeca went Splooch
Heh lizzy wizzy.
No David Martinez? Or does he not really count as a legend maybe
no he does, i think he was just talking the game and not the whole thing in general
Bottom tier legend but a legend still
this mf forgor Ozob
i didn't expect that, that Aldecaldo is a Filipino mix and im a Filipino as well. 😁
Where the hell is david martinez? He was in the afterlife bar as a drink. He has to be a legend.
Take a look at the description you angry kid