As I Lay... DYING?!
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*What are your thoughts on the recent news? Comment below* ⏬
I think the band members should have dissociated from Tim all along. I don’t think murder for hire plot is redeemable. They’re talented and don’t need to carry Tim’s baggage. Any vocalist, preferably not a sociopath, can do Tim’s job. AILD could have kicked him out and never let him back in. Now that we’re here, band members should move on and do other things
Also, Mire goes HARD!
@@ZL1LoVeR who are you to judge
@@ST-fl9ek I’m entitled to my own moral compass
@@ZL1LoVeR sure, but it is based on what we, the public, can see, and we are lacking a lot of information. But it does not matter, nature will do its work.
AILD’s music was part of what shaped my taste for metalcore, they had a good run while it lasted at least.
I was literally just listening to Anger and Apathy by them a few hours ago too, really sad news.
While I do see you everywhere, I wanted to say I do agree with you. They helped when I was feeling bad and it’s pretty sad that their gonna end. At least we got all the music they released over the years
Dude how tf are you everywhere
1. You're really everywhere huh
2. Agreed, As I Lay Dying is such a good band ruined by a shit ton of terrible decisions. They were the bands that got me into metalcore truly
Bro you like Moist Critical, Jacksepticeye, and metalcore music?! Dude did God shape you with his bare hands?
Underrated song and album
As long as Phil doesn’t leave, AILD will still have its classic sound. Phil’s really the riff guitarist for the band. I know Tim writes riffs too. But Hipa as far as I know was mostly responsible for solos. Phil is truly the riff master, and IMO his playing is super tight (especially live)
He will leave when he goes after his wife as well
@@waterproof4403 Tim going after his wife or Phil's wife? Explain
Actually Phil wrote most of the solos, Nick just played them, maybe threw his style into them. Judging by the solos in burden, it sounds like Phil has been writing the solos this entire time.
just saw them last weekend. Phil is as tight as ever (pause). They still have the AILD. Their Drummer plays with traditional grip so that's fun.
Next step is Phil leaving, and then As I Lay Dying is going to basically turn into a Puddle of Mudd situation where Tim is going to literally be As I Lay Dying with a rotating door of up and coming musicians that want to get their foot in the door touring, and will stay as long as they can tolerate Tim.
Hell yeah I'll fill in
This comment was literally copy and pasted from Reddit lmao
I'm upset that Puddle of Mudd is mentioned in this comment section in the first place. I have no follow up. That's it.
@@Redbullinator2000 lol
@@Redbullinator2000 wait u wanna tell me me some ppl have the same opinion/thoughts on things?! ;)
I went from skillet to as I lay dying, these guys have been a huge impact on my musical inspiration. It’s so sad to see how things have gone, watching my structure influences fall apart sucks. I hope they all find happiness and things are left on a better note in the near future
Lmao same
Lmaoo same too
Bro I did the exact same 😂😂 I accidentally downloaded their song "forsaken" thinking it was the song forsaken by Skillet and it completely took over my taste in music 😂
After listening to and getting blown away by confined i immediately bought thicc-ass strings and tuned to drop C. Haven't tried any other tuning on my 6-string since. RIP AILD
I run 9-42s on my ibanez. Is a thicker gauge better for metalcore? I often feel like my low E string wiggles too much when galloping or tremolo picking it..
@@BingBongWasheeWashee I have 12-60 on my Gibson for Drop C#. 10-52 for the same tuning on my Ibanez and Fender. 9-42 would sound incredibly tinny imo and would feel like I was chugging on dental floss.
@@auberginedreams00 Thanks for the reply. I wanna experiment with a thicker gauge.
@@BingBongWasheeWashee with smaller gadgets sets, they're more difficult for me and they wiggle too much, plus with down tunings the smaller strings go out of tune faster, even with locking tuners. 10-52s are great for drop C
@@BingBongWasheeWashee the genre of music and the gauge of string are unrelated. What is related is the tuning you're in, your scale length, and the gauge.
I assume your Ibanez has a 25.5 scale, which means you'd want at least 10-52 for drop C, but maybe even something more like 11-54 depending on how much tension you want.
I use 11-56 or 12-56 in C standard (lower than drop C, which is essentially D standard) on 25.5 scales for reference.
Unfortunately Tim killed his career when he tried to kill his wife. Irony. And it's ashame cause just like you Nic, As I Lay Dying was one of the bands that I grew up with.
Who cares. It's not like he tried to kill me
I still listen
@@psychosis345 how do you know he hasn’t hired someone to kill you too?
You mean Lambesis hire a hitman to murder his ex wife … this looks similar like Marilyn Manson, Dahvie Vanity of Blood On The Dance Floor, and Austin Jones of losing his privileges music career wow
Their last album charting at 50 on the US 200, just over a million monthly listeners on Spotify with their Top 2 songs being newer songs both over 24 million listens - My Own Grave is at 48+ million - and a huge fan base still, being one of the top bands on festival bills, etc… Definitely didn’t kill his career when he tried killing his wife. He’s has the same amount of success as before. Lol
Same
Well, I saw them in Vegas on Friday and they killed it! The crowd was going ape shit and they sounded incredible. It was so good that I think things will continue for them. Tim mentioned new music coming so I’m optimistic for the future of the band. Great fucking show though. Shadow of intent was fucking crushing it as well.🤘
The writing has been on the wall with them releasing Shaped By Fire Special Edition three-ish years after initial release (no new material) and Tim's other side project that sounds almost exactly like AILD.
well it's the same genre, but to me AILD sounds much more powerful and a lot less cheesy.
Another side project? He already had 2.
He’s talking about born through fire.
I'm sad to see what's happening. I too grew up listening to As I Lay Dying and they were (if not the first) band that got me into metalcore
As I Lay Dying got me into metalcore. Before them, I dabbled with bands who screamed, and then once I heard them, I was hooked. Them and Bullet For My Valentine are the reasons why I got into metal. It’s so sad to hear what is happening with AILD. Like heartbreaking
Same man
I’m honestly very bummed because I really love aild but I understand nick and josh leaving and wish them the best but yeah it seems like gg for aild
He went after their wives too
@@waterproof4403 he tried to kill them?
As I Lay Dying was my ticket to really heavy music and a large part of me wanting to become a metal musician. I remember listening to them as a child and i was literally scared a bit because the level of their intensity was through the roof. Screaming vocals were not common for me to hear at that point, but i just couldn't stop listening to them. Sure enough they've become one of my favourite bands, and I was in love with their sound (big respect to Colin Richardson and Adam D). But when the Tim thing happened, i felt betrayed. So I was really happy to support wovenwar. It felt a little butt rocky at times, and I'd love for Josh to sing at least some of the choruses because I'm in love with his voice as well as his bass tone. I really think that they should've continue working on wovenwar instead of a reunion. I listened to AILD's last album and even attended their gig here in Europe, but it was a bit awkward. What Tim did isn't something you can easily ignore. I understand that everyone deserves a second chance but for some reason I didn't feel that Tim changed enough and took a lesson from it. There is a loss of cinserity that I feel while listening to new as i lay dying stuff.
Honestly, I spent a whole lot of time reading the lyrics for songs from "Shaped by Fire", even translated those into russian as well.
And there's a whole lot of internal struggle and pain involved.
I mean like, "The Toll It Takes" is basically heartbreaking, cause this is a message that'll likely never be heard by the people it's directed to - his former wife and their kids.
I had a lot of struggle myself understanding exactly how should I treat and continue to listen to the band after what Tim did.
In the end I understood that basically it was all just a matter of chance.
Had his plan actually come to life - no one of us would ever give their music a chance again.
Tim has been somehow given a chance to redeem his doing by matters of pure luck and good work of law enforcement.
I understand that many people would not agree with me here likely, but I just found myself more comfortable thinking of it that way and it might as well be entirely wrong line of thinking.
Cause after all, Tim's lyrics and band's work did change my life a lot, made me think of certain things, were there with me through numerous hardships and that certainly does matter a whole lot to me.
I saw them last night! 6/12/22. best concert I've been to in awhile, loved Tim. he was so encouraging to the crowd and spoke about a non profit organization that deals with addiction and emotional health. loved them and want to see them again!
Exactly, saw them opening night on the 11th. Was a great show, and yes Tim is trying to do something good from a bad situation
@@rayban72 agreed
It was fun while it lasted, but Roots Below is a great song to go out on.
I agree. Roots Below is one of my favorite songs by them recently. I was really hoping AILD and they’re awesome new music was a great comeback story. I guess not
The way they delivered a solid album even after many years proves that they have As I lay Dying sound in them
Grew up on these guys when they first hit the scene. Tim got himself into a big pickle with the crowd he followed and having compiling interpersonal issues. Made a shitty choice and he did his time. I had zero expectations for this band to be the same after. I feel the latest album was a thank you and a goodbye. People make shitty choices everyday. There's a lot of extra details left out of the entire situation because it was blasted through the media. If someone does their time and moves on great. At least there's a fantastic back catalog that still hits hard. As a mental health counseling masters student I can only imagine the work everyone in that band had to do on their own to forgive and move on.
I completely agree and feel just the same as you Nik. First time I heard Meaning In Tragedy and Through Struggle back in 2006, (I was 14), I was absolutely changed forever. It's just sad that your favorite band is breaking up a second time after such a legendary comeback. I'm sooo thankful I had the chance to see them on the Shaped By Fire tour, all 5 dudes together one last time!
They were absolutely my favorite metalcore band of the late 2000s/early 2010s and I felt like they were absolutely improving with each subsequent album. I didn't think their comeback album was quite as good as the last one before Tim got busted but the promise was there. Big shame.
You think so? I thought shaped by fire was a lot better than the awakened album. It's my least favorite album. It didn't blew my expectations like the previous albums did. Shaped by Fire has a ton of great tracks where I would listen to nonstop.
@@TYLERtheMAGGOT1 I’m in the same boat. I think Awakened is better than Shaped but nothing touches Powerless. That album SHREDS
100% agree with Nic. AILD was the band that changed my guitar work from Blink182 type stuff over to Metalcore. They were my favorite band for half a decade easily. I used to be able to play both guitar parts, from all of their songs, for their first 4 albums note for note perfectly. They heavily influenced my personal style.
They were followed closely by Oh, Sleeper in my top bands.
i saw the music video for 94 hours back in 04 (?) when i was 17 years old, kind of liked it but didn't really pay much attention until in 2010 someone gave me a copy of the powerless rise which had me nailed to the wall instantly and i was hooked. became AILDs biggest fan here in germany, met the guys backstage when they were in cologne touring for awakened in 2012. when the news came what tim had done i was so disappointed i couldn't listen to any of their music for years (wovenwar was great though) - until they dropped my own grave. it's just like you said, it's sad to see what is happening, only this time it feels... finite. i don't believe they'll ever recover. what's left for us to cherish is all the amazing records they've made.
I felt the same way the first song i heard from them was “Confined” and i was like oh my and it was sad that the band is disbanding they were apart of my teenage years last song i bought from them was “the toll it takes” after that i couldnt really get into them anymore but i will always play the OG AILD songs
The first time I heard of as i lay dying in high school with fuse with the song confined. Then I got an ocean between us in 2007, I was just 16. I still want to see them li ve in grand rapids, michigan july 1st still though.
I honestly think Jordan is not willing to play in as I lay dying as long as the former band mates are out…And I totally get that. This band is magic when all the parts are working together and it will never be as I lay dying without all the members.
I feel you man. As I Lay Dying was one of the first metal bands I truly connected to, all the way up to the new album, I'm a giant fan of their work. Such a shame for all metal fans to see things go sour again. I was really looking forward to that tour with Whitechapel coming up, two of the best in the genre. Hoping things eventually work themselves out.
I've listened to AILD since like, 2010 or so, and I'm beyond excited to see them live on Thursday. That being said, it's bittersweet, because it won't be the original band by any means. Really bummed out to hear about Jordan leaving now while I was still trying to get over Josh's departure. I'm still going to enjoy the show but it's just not the same.
This kind of feels like an obituary, but whatever. I specifically remember where I was sitting when I first time heard AILD. I was 13/14 years old and it was 2004ish. My buddy Nico's older brother liked them and Nico told me to check them out. I never heard anything like them before and it was the beginning of my road into metalcore. Confined might be one of my favorite songs of all time. An Ocean Between Us is a masterpiece to me. I can remember sitting in junior year english and my buddy Mike called ALID the "kings of metalcore" and I was like well yeah. I also remember where I was at when I saw the news about Tim. I was conflicted on how to feel and still am today. I watched their mini documentary This is Who We Are a handful of times because they were all such likeable dudes and I almost felt like they were my friends because they were so down to earth and so relatable. I almost went to their show in Tucson this past Saturday but I saw the news about Jordan and I just felt heartbroken. I understand why this is happening and don't blame the ones who left, I support them. This just feels like the end of an era and a piece of me feels like it's gone now too.
Slipknot was what got me into metal when I was in middle school. But I’m pretty sure the first two cds I got was All Hope is Gone when it was released and An Ocean Between Us. Despite everything that album will always have a special spot for me
They're the reason I got into metalcore too. For me the first songs I ever heard from them was "Elegy" and "Collision." Frail Words Collapse. This breakup is the worst thing to happen to me regarding music aside the passing of Alexi Laiho. I still support Tim and have hope he will change and get the band moving again.
Honestly when a person who claims to be Christian tries to kill there EX wife that Evil follows you. Tim basically killed the band...
not basically, he really did
He didn’t claim to be Christian, he has said he had abandoned his faith shortly before the incident
I thought he found god while I'm prison like a classic criminal would do
Being a Christian and also a terrible person aren't mutually exclusive. The Catholic Church is full of them
He made the band. Without him there wouldn't be no as I lay dying
Nick Hipa and Jeremy DePoyster (Nick as a guitarist, Jeremy for the vocal combo) were the reasons I got into metalcore riffing. Hoping the best for Nick, Josh and Jordan. Wovenwar part 2?
Totally agree. The last album is such a masterpiece. Completely impacted me. My own grave is ridiculous good. I hope they find peace among them.
I have a very vivid memory of driving to church with my grandparents as im jamming on my new Shadows Are Security album on my walkman with headphones as loud as i could
Man this is really heartbreaking. I remember working a supermarket job that I dreaded going to when I was 17 or 18 and every break I had and when I would walk to and from this job I would listen to all sorts of metalcore but As I Lay Dying was played the most. It somehow made that shitty job bearable.
I feel like at this point its like a pet that's old and at the end of its life.. you don't want to keep prolonging the suffering and at some point you've just got to end it. I'd prefer they just call it quits on their own accord than have the band slowly fall lower and lower till its eventually just remnants of a once great band.
This is one of those times that its hard to separate the art from the artist. I love their music but from the few interviews I've seen with Tim and his ig posts he's always kind of made me uneasy for some unexplainable reason. Needless to say, putting a hit out on your wife can have that effect on people. Unfortunately I think there's that AND more issues with the band they can't legally discuss.
"... for some unexplainable reason." I bet it was the attempted hitman/murder. I can listen to the music and not think about it but he's a trash person for that.
AILD will forever be my favorite band! No other band has ever gotten me the feeling like when I first heard AILD.
They're my first metalcore band influence ever. And still loving them
I discovered the dudes when they toured with BFMV in 2006 and fell in love by the very first riff (96 hours). After I listened "Blinded" for the first time, I was hyped af for a new era. So sad. Tim fcked it up. After he got released from prison I saw them once again and Tim said "Thank you for giving US second chance...". No Tim, it was YOU who got a second chance.
Never really was a huge fan of them, but I respect their place in the scene. I think that no matter what happens next, they'll always have a place in the hearts of the fans that stuck by them for so long, very much like yourself, Nik. GG or not, the replay button exists for a reason.
i first became aware of the band with The Sound of Truth, but it was the Powerless Rise that got me into them. it's one of those bands i need a spoonful of sugar when i listen because yeah, the drama is hard to forget about
Shadows are Security will always be one of my favorite albums, period. Sucks that this happened, but could you really see consistent good AILD music coming out of the situation post Tim out of prison?
Glad I got to see them at the forge for his comeback tour
My childhood metalcore favorite band. It is sad without a doubt but I am just happy with what was. I own all of there cds 💿! They simply will not be the same without the original members.
Dude like you…I grew up on AILD… hearing that nick left really hurt. And then Josh left and that’s when I knew… there’s no coming back from that. It doesn’t matter who they get to fill in… they will never be what they were in their prime. Yes what Tim did was wrong and I don’t support it at all…but this band got me into metal in general and shaped and molded my guitar style and influenced so much to my writing style. If Jordan leaves…that’s literally the whole musical foundation of my all time favorite band gone :’( I look at it as… at least they came back after Tim’s stint in prison…made an awesome album that was a brutal but yet refreshing sound… I will never forget meeting them at higher ground in Burlington Vermont…every member was humble and down to earth and let me take pictures with them and chill for like 15-20 minutes with them. You guys made some of my best musically inspired memories
My cousin played the Confined Music video and that intro got me hooked into Metal at 13. Bought the CD a week later and the rest was history.
Such a weird thing too as the only thing I could go off of as far as their personality goes is the Making of the Album DVD that came with the album. They were all so young and looked like they just loved making music and MV's.
I'm soooooo so so glad i got to see them live again right after they got back together, at an absolutely small venue. These guys are OGs to the genre. Sad day.
Dude I feel your pain, As I lay dying was the reason I love metal and why I play guitar, when I watched this video it made me so depressed 😔
I recently started listening to AILD, about a year ago, and im really sad, because i really wanted to see them live in our hometown
You still have that chance as they started touring again. And they are still strong!
I remember buying Shadows are Security at the mall. I think I was in 9th grade. At the time it was the heaviest thing I had ever listened to and totally blew my mind. Kinda feels like Tim is pushing everyone away. Through Struggle is still the best breakdown ever written to me.
I grew up with Phil in my early years. He actually taught me my first song on guitar. “Machine head” by Bush. This is sad news to fans and the band. Despite what has happened they tried so hard to put out music for the fans. I will always support the members of this band for their decisions and hope the best for whatever outcome may happen.
Jordan’s departure was the first time I heard of any issues. Why did Nick and Josh leave? If they mentioned why.
Aaah the feels. I legit remember taking a huge leap from a cute Korn song to AILD, which threw me straight into metal. Shadows are security, and first CD I ever was An Ocean between us 😢. Luckily it's not the only metalcore band, but man, it's the OGs for me.
Air punching for life 🤘👊
Same Nik.
Through Struggle changed my life. 🖤
I sat on a banana and it changed my life
@@jorgemasviballs
Right, right.
As a banana should.
Am glad you brought this up... It broke me hard when i saw the news from their IG... God please save this band 😭😭
Saw them play here in Tucson last weekend, the entire show was fantastic. Only had a few missed marks that I noticed. Tim teased that the new lineup has a new song in the works, so I'll judge after that comes out.
I am 31 already (time flies) and I remember they were also the first metalcore band I have ever listened. I can clearly picture the day I decided to put Frail Words Collapse on my MP3 going to the institute and 94 hours started. I didn't know what a breakdown was, I just remember I thought "wtf is this AWESOME BRUTAL shit?". It's a shame things got to this point.
94h
@@tonightweride77 Shit, true. Edited. "94 hours of regret", I should have taken a relisten lol
(Hope you read this Nik) Through Struggle changed my life. Lyrically was a masterpiece in my 16 year old eyes. Before that day, I never thought about lyrics as important. It opened up my eyes to emotions. Blew me away. Since that day, I've taken music to heart. To feel the way another person feels when they pour there heart and soul into the music they've created. It's special.
The part in 94 hours, we all know what part I’m talking about. But the first time I heard that was the moment I fell in love with double bass drums, and to this day nothing gets me more excited in a metalcore song that double bass. All because of that one section of Jordan’s drumming
I bought Shadows are Security because they were on the Taste of Chaos tour and i wanted to listen to some songs so i would know what to expect. Holy shit I was blown away. Had no idea how much that changed my music taste. Or at least added a dynamic to it. I have a hard time with the whole Hitman thing, I have the same issue with Lost Prophets.
i def feel you on this. they were an amazing introduction to metal for me waaay back in middle school. im just glad we got that last album
Saw them here in el paso two nights ago! They were on fire!!! I know Tim had his problems bit he legit is trying to move on from it all, he and the lads put on a hell of a show!!
I was pretty well into metal and maybe even a few metalcore bands at the time but it was definitely a similar experience, I legit remember the first time I listened to through struggle and I was almost immediately hooked. The only other thing I was like “oh this is heavier than I usually like”…
That changed real quick. Absolutely obsessed with them.
Finding out what tim did was pretty devastating. And although the older ones were absolute classics, I felt awakened was their peak musically at the time. They had evolved so much and after that many albums I feel like it becomes less and less common for a band to keep moving forward like that.
Well before you knew it time flew, tim was out, and then bam they are all back together. Definitely got me super excited. Shaped by fire was a really good album too and I listened the shit out of it. As some others stated it seemed more like a one final goodbye and they are probably right.
I remember watching the interview where all the members had talked about the time between what happened and getting back together. Something is telling me there was quite a lingering animosity there. And understandably so.
Now moving on to the exits and Jordan announcing not going on tour due to ongoing problems. It does kind of suck, but for whatever reasons any of the members have for leaving. I’m all for them. Anything can be said but chances are we will never really know what went on with the band. It’s their choice. And on the bright side, think about how many different projects all these members are touching now. Hopefully they will give to them what AILD couldn’t/could no longer.
Saw them in Tucson on my birthday the other day and they sounded great (mostly wanted to see shadow and whitechapel) but we shall see how long they stick around.
6:05 so true, I remember really liking Atreyu growing up but after they went on hiatus, when they came back every album they have released has been mediocre, and their latest album without alex is absolute dogshit. Shaped by Fire is an absolute banger of an album, and An Ocean Between Us may be in my top 10 all time favorites. Really sucks to see all this go down.
I saw them with the new lineup on Saturday 6-11-22 and they crushed it!
Really love your take on this brotha, I’m right there with you. Hopefully it isn’t the end for them.
Just saw AILD live in des moines. They still kicked ass, and honestly seemed real nice and genuine guys.
Yes it's so hecking sad, they got me into Metalcore, and I love them, they're all AWESOME musicians, and one of my favorite bands. So sorry to know they're... Dying
Guitar work in Shadows are Security is still my favorite from AILD. And I still have the CD.
The break down in the song Backburner, got me the rest of the way into metalcore!
Watching this again after Susi, Neff and the drummer have bounced... even sounds like Phil is gonna leave once he figures out some legalities. Tim seems to be the common denominator here... maybe he just really isn't a good dude to work with. Sucks because I fuggin love AILD too man. Nick and Phil's playing are all over the riffs I used to write in my band back in the day. Susi's statement makes it sound like there are some shady things going on in the background. Hate it man... wanted it to work but all good things eventually come to an end. Blooooows bro
Damn, feels like the end of an erra. AILD was one of the main reasons I picked up a guitar in the first place, just had to learn that through struggle riff.
Very randomly ended up buying an EC-1000 from Tim a handful of years back, spent an hour chatting with him, and I gotta say....... One of the nicest, most humble people I've ever met. Funny how life works.
One of the first metalcore shows I went to after the military. 2004. As I Lay Dying / Every Time I Die / The Black Dahlia Murder / Scarlet. Will never forget that first time seeing them.
Bought tickets to the show in Richmond, Virginia. Had never seen them live and was super sad about nick leaving. But now I’m super fucking bummed
Saw them last night. A shit ton of people left before and during their set. A bunch of the seats were emptied out that were full during whitechapel’s set. It was crazy. We wanted to get out of the pit because it was getting wild so we walked up and like half of the seats were empty. Pretty sad when everyone leaves before the headliner lol
Josh plays for Spiritbox, tbh i think it was a good move..
One of my favorite metal bands it’s sad to see this happen
Apparently the tour is still going pretty good, helps that shadow of intent and brand of sacrifice are there but still
brand of sacrifice comes on for the 2nd half of the tour
@@doubleXnickel ah, when is the second half? I’m gonna catch them in kansas in July
Yeah it's an amazing lineup. I saw brand of sacrifice recently and they had a great performance
I'm in the same boat as Nik and most of you. AILD was the band that got me into metalcore. But it's pretty obvious that Tim isn't the best dude. First tried to have his wife killed and now basically everyone in his band is replaced. I wanna love them but where there's smoke there's fire. Imo, Tim seems to be a bit out of his mind. I still listen to them from time to time but it's just not the same anymore unfortunately.
I used to listen to them as a little teenager discovering world of metal sub-genres and was sad when they no longer were releasing (not knowing why). Was so happy when they came back and then learnt what happened.. and well.. it didn’t last long 🤷🏻♀️😢
I remember getting two of their tracks somewhere in the local network and when I first listened to it (I listened to like alternative stuff, rock, etc.) I was like WHAT IS THIS -- dude screaming, what is happening?! And I just dropped those for a couple of months. Was kinda extreme for me. But the music wasn't abundant, so a bit later I came back, listened it again, and got a taste of it. Through Struggle and Meaning in Tragedy were those two tracks.
And look where I am now... Thinking AILD are kinda mild :D Still listening all of their discography to this day.
As I Lay Dying is still one of my favorites and will always be one of my favorites.. Nick and Josh are just too intrinsic to their sound that I am going to have to agree with you.
Hopefully they continue on this tour bc I bought tickets to see them on this tour so who knows
They are. Just seen them last night. Still sick! You'll get your money worth that's for sure
Technically, Phil has left before. He was on their first Wovenwar album, but not the second. So I'm surprised Phil hasn't left yet, but if he does leave, I hope their Ocean Between Us line up all get together as AILD or Wovenwar again one day if this blows over. They're too good, AILD/WW are in my top 3 bands of all time.
I also hope Josh stays in Spiritbox, I grew up on iwrestledabearonce since the Krysta era, and Courtney's albums with them were brutal, especially Hail Mary, it's one of my fav albums of all time
@The Horizon Blue yes she is, she was in uniCron, IWRESTLEDABEARONCE, and now Spiritbox. She's amazing as it is, but now she has Josh who made at least 6 as I lay dying albums if you include the side project wovenwar! They are the super group of my dreams
I'm with you on Spiritbox. I once played a show with Courtney and Mike when they were in IWABO back in 2014 - truly the nicest people in the metal scene. They don't take things for granted. If Josh ends up becoming a full-time.member he adds so much more.
@@fromdepthswerise3024 you're lucky to have played a show with them, that sounds awesome!
Saw them last night in Charlotte. They were GREAT 👍
oh man, this news still hurts. For me it was gg when Josh left, because his voice for me was the most important part of As I Lay Dying´s character. Nick already was important but you can always find another really good guitarist, replacing a voice is always way harder and mostly, near impossible.
They got the best replacement there though
@@FighterMindset2024 I'd say they got the best replacement possible. The other question is for how long. I can imagine that the new people wont stay long when there are such internal problems.
The drummer situation was going on for awhile. On their Instagram post they literally say they were working with Nick Pierce for awhile and even recorded some songs with him on drums. No idea why it got announced like 2 days before their tour started. But yeah, doesn’t sound like he’s “sitting a tour out”. Sounds permanent to me
Saw them live with Nick and Ken from Unearth, and they killed it. Nick might be better than Jordan anyway, he didn't miss a beat. Ken was great too, lots of energy
@@rayban72 I’m seeing them tomorrow night lol. How was whitechapel?
@@riffstud93 Hadn't seen them for a while, but they were really good! Most songs were off their last two albums, but some older stuff too. Shadow of Intent was great, missed Ov Sulfur
@@rayban72 I saw a UA-cam video of their set and was kind of bummed they played a lot of new stuff lol. But I guess they can’t always play their old shit. Still stoked to see them. Might leave a couple songs into aild lol
he took my hat off good video congratulations 🤘🏻🖤
Tbh i remember hearing 'the sound of truth' when i was younger while dicovering the genre and it gave me a boost to listen to this kind of music more and more. Don't get me wrong i love every single metal/heavy genre and some songs more than others but this band really got me into that shit for the long run.
Confined was my first breakdown. Changed my life
Talking about missing this sound, I get a real 2000’s metalcore vibe from Phinehas, though maybe the “old” sound is why I don’t see them talked about as much. Got them from one of your riff videos and dove deep, guys are killer.
Same feeling man, Shadows are security changed my life and the music I listed too as well as wanted to learn
I am so glad I got to see the OG lineup a few years ago when they played a few shows in India. This is just depressing.
Shadows are Security will always be in my top 3 favorite albums of all time. But my metalcore awakening was Haste the Day-Attack of the Wolf King
Bro Tim didn’t get “canceled” he put a hit out on his wife lmao
My first metalcore album was Norma Jean O ' God the Aftermath. Nevveerrrr looked back. These guys were a very quick second album.
Saw them last night on their tour. it was incredible to see them live and the fill ins did great but it was missing....something. still a great show to go to for Shadow of intent and White Chapel though
Jordan was my introduction to the art of what I like to call machine gun double bass. What Tim did threw me for a loop when I heard about but at least we still have 94 hours
Saw them in San Antonio a week ago and they fuckin killed it! As long as Tim and Phil are there aild will live 🤘🏻
speaking of shadows are security through the darkest night was probably my favorite song with through the struggle following. I think if all the original members leave it won't ever be the same.