Great job. I've been building tanks for years as you have. Good stuff. Just curious... do you find that black heats up[ your tank from sun absorption or is it irrelevant because of the constant recirculation of the water? Thanks. I have always used white to the gray range, but it probably doesn't matter. Just wondering your opinion. Thanks
Mr. Simmons, quick question for ya... Ive decided on going with a smaller kayak live bait well for my 17' skiff, as the fishing platform is limited and I need all the deck space I can get. Anyway, I'm curious to know why there wasn't a fuse to the hot wire on this setup? Is that something that's typically an option? I was under the impression that bait tanks should have a fuse spliced in case of a power surge and the electrical fire hazard it may present while being out on the water. Regards from San Diego!
KayakFishingTales Mr. Simmons, got it! So, my plan is to have the ability for it to be portable. I.e., taking it out of the skiff when not fishing and taking the family out to the bay for the day, etc... If I make a tank similar to this one, and have the tank running independently from any electrical wiring apart from the boat, no fuse needed??? Awesome video, by the way. La Jolla has been producing some quality checkers and YFT being caught within 8 miles from Mission Bay! Tight lines Sir!
Hobie makes those livewell going through scupper holes. The idea to put anything in the scupper holes makes me a little concerned. The scupper holes designed to drain water from a kayak quickly. What if you hit by a large wake or surf lunching with two scupper holes occluded. What do you think about this?
I made one of these and had it recirculation the water in my garage to keep some bait alive for the next day over night the pump heated up witch heated up the water killing all my bait i cast netted the day before lol thats my only complaint with the tsunami pumps. And 1 tip i recommend when doing your wires cover them in dielectric grease then put the shrink wrap on it the grease will keep water out if it ever does get in there
I am confused, thesepumps are used to draw fresh water into the tank so that you are always bringing new water and the old water flows out. Thus the water never has a chance to over heat. Not sure how you were using it.
KayakFishingTales it was on a cooler where the drain plug goes it would suck water from where the drain plug use to be and run threw the pump and back into the cooler didnt think it would heat up a 35qt cooler in about 5 hours i put fresh water before i went to bed woke up all my bait was dead lol water was like 100 and something degrees it was hott lol
Just circulating the same water, other than warming it up doesnt do a whole lot. You need freshwater going in to give the bait oxygen. Some baits can take it but most not so much they need that fresh water.
Have you guys retire from fishing? It's been months since you've done an actual fishing video. I don't mean to be critical, but, I'm in a miserable fishing region, so I follow certain channels, to see guys fish. I am appreciative of the 'talking - do it yourself vids', but I came to your channel for the fishing.
Great question. First off this is not an aerator, it is a small bilge pump. Yes it does need to be below the water line or at least the intake does. The Jackson Kayak Kraken has a scupper that was designed specifically for that purpose, so that the waterline is higher than the pump sits in that scupper so the pump is self priming. Your other two options are to use a pump setup where the pump is actually dragging over the side of the kayak and below the water or to set up the pump so that you can easily prime it. I hope that helps.
There are scupper holes in the kayak so the water just flows out the scupper. IF you prefer you can put an over flow tube in a position that is at the water level you want and just point the tube off the side.
From my experience those pumps are not self priming and the pump impeller must be below the water line to work. I’m guessing the Kracken kayak allows the pump to sit low enough so there isn’t an air gap around the impeller??? Not sure how you are going to throw the intake line over the side and plan to pump water into the tank. Wasted some $$ trying to make this work.
Dennis W as said at the beginning of the video this install was specific to the Kraken. To work on another kayak use a longer hose that goes over the side of the kayak enough to drag the pump in the water. This is what we did for many years !!!
I will have to disagree with you. First off no way you are doing this job for $50. But more importantly this battery though perhaps a bit more expensive gives you a great weight savings and is completely waterproof with waterproof connectors, so to me it is totally worth it.
KayakFishingTales really? Tsunami pump kit is $31. A battery is $18. Dry box with connectors is $6, and a small tote is $4. Ok.... so it’s $59. Hard for me to justify a $120 battery alone, even if it has waterproof connections. Not trying to be difficult but what you’re advertising is just expensive. I agree that you should get the best that you can afford but this is a bit much. It’s more than 5x more expensive than a regular battery.
You are also talking waterproof battery with waterproof connectors and 8.5 pounds compared to maybe one pound. Yes they both work but I will take the waterproof features and huge weight savings all day long. The nocqua battery is $99 not $120, I think the $120 is for the pro power kit which includes the full wiring kit plus butt connectors and such. If price is a factor sure go the other route if price is not a factor this is a much cleaner, lighter and more reliable setup.
Great job. I've been building tanks for years as you have. Good stuff. Just curious... do you find that black heats up[ your tank from sun absorption or is it irrelevant because of the constant recirculation of the water? Thanks. I have always used white to the gray range, but it probably doesn't matter. Just wondering your opinion. Thanks
Office of the Pacific I would prefer a lighter color but honestly as you say with constant circulation of water it really doesn’t matter.
Awesome. Thanks.
That’s awesome, keeping your baits as lively as possible is very important. I like the setup.
Mr. Simmons, quick question for ya... Ive decided on going with a smaller kayak live bait well for my 17' skiff, as the fishing platform is limited and I need all the deck space I can get. Anyway, I'm curious to know why there wasn't a fuse to the hot wire on this setup? Is that something that's typically an option? I was under the impression that bait tanks should have a fuse spliced in case of a power surge and the electrical fire hazard it may present while being out on the water. Regards from San Diego!
AS this is a simple bait tank set up, not wired into anything else there really is not a need for a fuse.
KayakFishingTales Mr. Simmons, got it! So, my plan is to have the ability for it to be portable. I.e., taking it out of the skiff when not fishing and taking the family out to the bay for the day, etc... If I make a tank similar to this one, and have the tank running independently from any electrical wiring apart from the boat, no fuse needed??? Awesome video, by the way. La Jolla has been producing some quality checkers and YFT being caught within 8 miles from Mission Bay! Tight lines Sir!
Hobie makes those livewell going through scupper holes. The idea to put anything in the scupper holes makes me a little concerned. The scupper holes designed to drain water from a kayak quickly. What if you hit by a large wake or surf lunching with two scupper holes occluded. What do you think about this?
Beyond the breakers the Kraken was designed for this set up, only one scupper is blocked with the pump but it was made for it.
How long does the battery last?
I made one of these and had it recirculation the water in my garage to keep some bait alive for the next day over night the pump heated up witch heated up the water killing all my bait i cast netted the day before lol thats my only complaint with the tsunami pumps. And 1 tip i recommend when doing your wires cover them in dielectric grease then put the shrink wrap on it the grease will keep water out if it ever does get in there
I am confused, thesepumps are used to draw fresh water into the tank so that you are always bringing new water and the old water flows out. Thus the water never has a chance to over heat. Not sure how you were using it.
KayakFishingTales it was on a cooler where the drain plug goes it would suck water from where the drain plug use to be and run threw the pump and back into the cooler didnt think it would heat up a 35qt cooler in about 5 hours i put fresh water before i went to bed woke up all my bait was dead lol water was like 100 and something degrees it was hott lol
Just circulating the same water, other than warming it up doesnt do a whole lot. You need freshwater going in to give the bait oxygen. Some baits can take it but most not so much they need that fresh water.
Great video. Love the idea of using a Nocqua. Do you recommend using the 4.4Ah or 10Ah?
I use the 10
Have you guys retire from fishing? It's been months since you've done an actual fishing video. I don't mean to be critical, but, I'm in a miserable fishing region, so I follow certain channels, to see guys fish. I am appreciative of the 'talking - do it yourself vids', but I came to your channel for the fishing.
Doesn’t the aerator have to be below the water line function correctly?
Great question. First off this is not an aerator, it is a small bilge pump. Yes it does need to be below the water line or at least the intake does. The Jackson Kayak Kraken has a scupper that was designed specifically for that purpose, so that the waterline is higher than the pump sits in that scupper so the pump is self priming. Your other two options are to use a pump setup where the pump is actually dragging over the side of the kayak and below the water or to set up the pump so that you can easily prime it. I hope that helps.
Where does the overflow go? Your drain pipe comes out the bottom. Where do you send the overflow?
There are scupper holes in the kayak so the water just flows out the scupper. IF you prefer you can put an over flow tube in a position that is at the water level you want and just point the tube off the side.
From my experience those pumps are not self priming and the pump impeller must be below the water line to work. I’m guessing the Kracken kayak allows the pump to sit low enough so there isn’t an air gap around the impeller??? Not sure how you are going to throw the intake line over the side and plan to pump water into the tank. Wasted some $$ trying to make this work.
Dennis W as said at the beginning of the video this install was specific to the Kraken. To work on another kayak use a longer hose that goes over the side of the kayak enough to drag the pump in the water. This is what we did for many years !!!
Workin too hard with those spade bits. A holesaw or unibit would be better suited. Awesome build though
Would you be interested in making another one and sell it??
I recently had shoulder surgery so really can’t.
Cool setup but the battery is unrealistically expensive. It turns a $50 Job into an almost $200 one.
I will have to disagree with you. First off no way you are doing this job for $50. But more importantly this battery though perhaps a bit more expensive gives you a great weight savings and is completely waterproof with waterproof connectors, so to me it is totally worth it.
KayakFishingTales really? Tsunami pump kit is $31. A battery is $18. Dry box with connectors is $6, and a small tote is $4. Ok.... so it’s $59. Hard for me to justify a $120 battery alone, even if it has waterproof connections. Not trying to be difficult but what you’re advertising is just expensive. I agree that you should get the best that you can afford but this is a bit much. It’s more than 5x more expensive than a regular battery.
You are also talking waterproof battery with waterproof connectors and 8.5 pounds compared to maybe one pound. Yes they both work but I will take the waterproof features and huge weight savings all day long. The nocqua battery is $99 not $120, I think the $120 is for the pro power kit which includes the full wiring kit plus butt connectors and such. If price is a factor sure go the other route if price is not a factor this is a much cleaner, lighter and more reliable setup.
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Sorry, retired