What's The Most Fuel Efficient Truck? 2020 Silverado vs Ram 1500 Diesel MPG Shootout!

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  • ( www.TFLtruck.com ) What's the most Fuel Efficient Truck in the Land? Is it the 2020 Silverado 1500 Diesel or the 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel? There's only one way to find out. A TFLtruck MPG towing shootout!
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  • @steverowe2943
    @steverowe2943 4 роки тому +195

    A most excellent comparison! Good job guys.

  • @collinator68
    @collinator68 2 роки тому +6

    Imagine if vehicle manufacturers didn't have to worry about vehicle exhaust emissions so much, to have only the regulations from 1996 but now have this amazing fuel saving technology, we seriously could get 40+mpg from diesel engines in half ton trucks.

  • @ericcaddy2417
    @ericcaddy2417 4 роки тому +43

    I have a 2018 crewcab ecodiesel with 4x4 and 3.92 rear end. I pull my travel trailer Aspen Trail 28bhs , unloaded 6900lbs maybe 8000lbs full with family. My average speed are 60-65 mph and i do 13 mpg !

    • @scott6074
      @scott6074 6 місяців тому +1

      I call cap 🧢

  • @jonscott7686
    @jonscott7686 4 роки тому +15

    I love these tests you guys do it helps out tremendously without having to look through and find 100 other reviews that are legit keep up the great work guys!

  • @WheresWilson58
    @WheresWilson58 3 роки тому +21

    I just ordered a '21 Silverado RST with the I6, I can't wait! Great vid, guys!

    • @Hogger280
      @Hogger280 3 роки тому +2

      I hope you don't have any check eng. light problems.

    • @RBZ06LT6
      @RBZ06LT6 3 роки тому +2

      @@Hogger280 even if that happens, its rarely a big concern. It literally tells you something is to be looked at. Some automakers dont even let you know in advance and the vehicle breaks down on you.

    • @agentwade
      @agentwade 2 роки тому

      @@RBZ06LT6 Who? ObdII has been law since like 95.5

    • @kevinhoule8016
      @kevinhoule8016 2 роки тому

      I have the RST with the baby duramax...few recall calibration updates for emissions and the common radio issue, but otherwise my favorite truck of all time, without going over my budget of course...

  • @halfcockedFame
    @halfcockedFame 3 роки тому +7

    Andre knowing diesel fuel prices better than Mr. Truck made me gain even more trust in Andre. He seems to be doing a lot of videos and really hanging in there with the channel. He’s been the guy I relate with the best for years.

  • @ralphreynolds1710
    @ralphreynolds1710 4 роки тому +9

    So far the best 2020 Silverado vs. Ram video's I've seen on the new 3.0 diesel engine 1500 trucks!I can't wait until they release the Ike towing results between these two trucks, great work TFL truck!!

  • @andrewlum9770
    @andrewlum9770 2 роки тому +7

    I recently turned my 2020 Chevy 1500 crew cab with the 5.3 v8. I used the truck to tow my 7500 pound boat and got about 7-8 mpg while doing so. Got the 3.0 duramax and that pulls better than the 5.3 and gets around 13-14 doing almost 80. Been nothing but impressed with truck and no problems to report with almost 18000 miles on odometer. I mainly lease but this is the first truck I might buy!

    • @michaellarrick8881
      @michaellarrick8881 2 роки тому

      Except you paid 10k for a diesel option that you’ll never get your money back out of and diesel is a dollar more a gallon. So basically unless you buy that truck and keep it for years, you’ll never really see the difference getting 4mpg better in the diesel

    • @the1stvendetta
      @the1stvendetta 2 роки тому +1

      Its a $1K option over the 5.3, the half tons are not like the three quarter tons at all

    • @firstlast---
      @firstlast--- 9 місяців тому

      Get the lz0. Pistons are stronger

  • @MrAjay3234
    @MrAjay3234 4 роки тому +1

    Great work guys, thank you for doing this video it’s the type of information that’ll sway my decision when time comes to pull the trigger on my 1st ever diesel truck

  • @drewhiz7334
    @drewhiz7334 4 роки тому +50

    Andre: I'll give you the nozzle Mr. Truck!
    Mr. Truck: (enthusiastically) Thanks! I love this greasy oily thing!
    This review was good. GM did a good job on the diesel based on the reviews I've seen on other channels etc.

    • @Intimidator82
      @Intimidator82 4 роки тому +6

      Andre: " Do you want me to insert the nozzle?"
      Mr. Truck: "Go ahead, while you have it in your hand"

    • @edwardk6764
      @edwardk6764 4 роки тому +1

      The noozle

  • @trevorbury8151
    @trevorbury8151 4 роки тому +3

    Love your show, very informative, keep up the the great work guys👍🏼

  • @mas921
    @mas921 4 роки тому +20

    Finally! Been waiting for this!

  • @74beeper97
    @74beeper97 4 роки тому +34

    Mr. Truck's vest is like a super hero cape.....

  • @KristoferOlsson
    @KristoferOlsson 4 роки тому +9

    I love the chemistry Mr Truck and Andrew have.

  • @jakeguello6814
    @jakeguello6814 4 роки тому +4

    ive been waiting for this video for 2 years!!!

  • @thewoodmaniac
    @thewoodmaniac 3 роки тому

    Very well done - great job guys. Appreciate the presentation and the info. Thumbs up.

  • @timothymclaughlin6860
    @timothymclaughlin6860 4 роки тому

    Thanks Fellas! What a great comparison! Thanks for what you do .

  • @turbojunki
    @turbojunki 4 роки тому +3

    Trucks are soo good these days... great results guys. Great comparison video as always.

  • @kirk189
    @kirk189 4 роки тому +9

    Great! Awesome to see these types of videos, now the Ike!!

  • @superior3384
    @superior3384 4 роки тому

    You guys are great. Love your channel. You always show new truck's. I was wondering if you could do a few videos of used pick up truck's. Ram , Toyota Tundra, Chevy Silverado, full size used trucks

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 4 роки тому +27

    It's difficult to get an accurate comparison in fuel economy running unloaded on such a short test loop. The Ram used 2.00 gallons, and the Chevy used 1.95 gallons. That difference could have easily gone the other way due to simple factors involved in topping up the tank. A longer mpg loop should be used.

    • @JerseyMikeP
      @JerseyMikeP 4 роки тому +3

      Not to mention changes in wind direction/strength or drafting another vehicle.

    • @meals24u
      @meals24u 4 роки тому +4

      Andy Harman I agree .. Should’ve ran both trucks empty, same time, 98 mile stretch at least..

    • @steveknight9254
      @steveknight9254 3 роки тому

      Or increases in temp as the day goes on it gets warmer, road warms up tires are more pliable. I noticed on the phone time stamp the test started around noon. The road and air temps are going up.

  • @exparrot9074
    @exparrot9074 4 роки тому +145

    That is phenomenal fuel economy for a full size truck.
    Is there any chance you guys can test the 4X4 variants of these trucks with the diesel engines?

    • @bmartinez2086
      @bmartinez2086 4 роки тому +18

      You'll probably just lose 2mpg it ain't much from what I've seen from these tests.

    • @Rockrewls
      @Rockrewls 4 роки тому +6

      Agreed full crew cab 4x4 trucks would be great!!

    • @gregoryfaulkner5345
      @gregoryfaulkner5345 4 роки тому +9

      I'm glad they did 2WD so we could see just what these new power trains can do without adding elements that destroy their potentials. We already know that adding 4WD will take away most of what is good about a work truck but that most people choose them anyway. Maybe they should put 36's mud tires, an on off road packages, add a brush guard, leveling kit so we can see how much we can destroy good engineering.

    • @exparrot9074
      @exparrot9074 4 роки тому +35

      @@gregoryfaulkner5345 even with snow tires and weight in the back a 2WD truck will not make it up my hill in the winter. 4WD is a necessity in Upstate NY if you intend to drive though snow and get over the hills.
      I'm glad we saw what the 2WD trucks could do, but I still want to see what the 4WD trucks will do.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 4 роки тому +12

      @@gregoryfaulkner5345 Wait why is 4WD a bad thing in a work truck?
      There's a lot of work done by trucks that isn't on dry pavement.
      Very few trucks are 2WD anymore because people realize without something in the back weighing it down (the same weight that saps fuel economy), 4WD can be necessary.
      The powertrain losses on an unused, decoupled 4WD system are so minimal that it's not worth not having most of the time. You need a huge fleet that absolutely never uses it to see the benefits.

  • @TheUnsureFox
    @TheUnsureFox 4 роки тому +1

    I must admit, I was not expecting that result! Good job to both of you, and good job, Chevy and Ram!

  • @uriahgottfried6565
    @uriahgottfried6565 2 роки тому +2

    Great review as always! Now that fuel cost has doubled, these reviews are helpful to make informed purchasing decisions.

    • @davidu8688
      @davidu8688 2 роки тому

      Yeah right. You will spend just as much in a year as much as the truck costs if not careful.

  • @Ahats5
    @Ahats5 4 роки тому +32

    I would love to see a 3/4 ton diesel vs 1/2 ton diesel on the same conditions, comparing max load on the 1/2 on each truck. Might help some of us who are on the line for typical towing applications, but could be swayed up to the bigger truck and a bigger trailer in the future

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 4 роки тому +6

      As someone who went from half ton to 1 ton, just get the bigger truck straight off if you can afford it.
      Fuel economy, power, etc aside you'll appreciate and even love the extra stability when trailering...even if you only ever planned on towing 8-10k that the half tons can do.
      Especially if any of your trailers is a box.
      Having said that, if all i ever planned to pull was my open deck car trailer (9990GVWR) the half ton would be fine because of airflow.
      But as soon as I got the 1 ton I was able to pull the open like it was nothing. And the 24' enclosed that my half ton technically could do but white knuckled, the 1 ton just doesn't care is back there. It feels the weight getting going and you see the fuel usage, but one handed cruising at 70mph is nothing.
      The half ton scared the bejeesus out of me at 60 with trucks passing and crosswinds, etc. I'm the one passing in the 1 ton. Construction zones aren't scary anymore, straight as an arrow, narrow lanes no big deal.
      It's glorious.

    • @meals24u
      @meals24u 4 роки тому

      dchawk81 nice, what about towing a boat, let’s say 3k lbs.. My Titan looses efficiency like crazy when towing anything, even just a 3k lbs boat.. Would love a diesel for that

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 4 роки тому

      @@meals24u For fun when I first got it I pulled an Acura on a trailer and it got 15 average on a loop of half highway and half state route with towns. I ran about 62-65 and occasionally punched it up to 70 around traffic. The state road was 55 max.

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 4 роки тому +9

      @@meals24u For the record, I don't think I'd get a diesel for a 3k boat. I doubt the fuel savings would offset the premium paid for the drivetrain. A good V8 like the Ford Coyote I had would be fine, IMHO. It was fine even pulling a Lincoln Navigator on the open trailer and didn't use enough gas to warrant a diesel upgrade. A boat would be nothing.
      All vehicles suck more fuel when towing so there's no way around that. The Nissan is probably just exceptionally thirsty by today's standards, but if it's paid off and still reliable, that's another thing to consider. You can burn a lot of fuel for a car payment.

    • @meals24u
      @meals24u 4 роки тому

      dchawk81 ok thanks for the feedback! Appreciated.

  • @isaiahjacobsmeyer359
    @isaiahjacobsmeyer359 4 роки тому +37

    “I inserted the noosle” 😂

  • @JerseyMikeP
    @JerseyMikeP 4 роки тому +2

    Funny thing is that there is a UA-cam guy with his own page that said a 1/2 ton couldn't tow his 7,500Lbs. trailer Safely... So he Bought a F250 W/ 6.7 Diesel, Lol.

    • @harleyjackson5513
      @harleyjackson5513 4 роки тому

      The Ford F-250 Superduty with the 6.7 is an awesome truck.

  • @carlitosperez3092
    @carlitosperez3092 2 роки тому

    Thanks for taking the time to do these real world test. They real help us make your decisions.

  • @dontask7898
    @dontask7898 4 роки тому +22

    This is probably the best and most accurate truck to truck comparison you guys have done. Great video guys.

  • @craigschulz1852
    @craigschulz1852 4 роки тому +31

    Hahahaha! I love how Mr Truck says "Holy Cow Diesel is at $2.989 / gal. Here in Canada Diesel is $1.09.9 / litre which works out to $ 4.989/ Gal. Enjoy!

    • @dilsher12
      @dilsher12 4 роки тому +4

      I wish it was 1.09/litre, here in Vancouver its 1.45/litre.

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk 4 роки тому +16

      That's what happens when you live in a socialist country!

    • @bmartinez2086
      @bmartinez2086 4 роки тому +9

      @@JohnDoe-nz6bk In Cali its 3.99 a gallon dude and we dont live in a socialist country.

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk 4 роки тому +19

      Brandon Martinez again, that's what happens when you live in a socialist/communist country... Uhhh, I mean state!

    • @johnathanyinger
      @johnathanyinger 4 роки тому +6

      You mean $3.160 US/Gal. Get your conversions right bud.

  • @diverbob8
    @diverbob8 4 роки тому

    This made my whole week....just picked up the 2020 Silverado High Country with the 6.2 L and the Performance Package (435 HP)....yep, scary fast...and yet, in the last two days, I have the fuel economy over 21 MPG by laying of the throttle a bit (Did I day that was in the hills of West Virginia....)

  • @danielwoods8602
    @danielwoods8602 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks to all you guys for your opinions and all your knowledge about trucks. Tks so much. Tk care to all.

  • @formerice
    @formerice 3 роки тому +4

    I've gotten over 800 miles on my 26 gallon tank. 33 gallon would be unreal. Love the Ecodiesel.

  • @ClassicCarsbyLloydCharlesCity
    @ClassicCarsbyLloydCharlesCity 4 роки тому +4

    18 ram eco. Love it! SEMA 57 rat g asser! Love the video!,

  • @rlhmarines
    @rlhmarines 4 роки тому

    As always guys...great same day video review...thanks!!!

  • @Spridle60
    @Spridle60 4 роки тому

    Great video guys. Keep up the good work.

  • @alanj7306
    @alanj7306 3 роки тому +3

    Great job guys 👍. Those are some impressive numbers for the highway gas mileage in a pickup truck. It’s most surprising that the Ram costs $41k. That’s not a bad price at all for a new truck. That was refreshing to hear after seeing all these new trucks that cost $70-80+k. Very nice comparison 👍

  • @uprighter65
    @uprighter65 4 роки тому +5

    Great comparison! Thanks. How about a segment on diesel additives and maybe some mileage comparisons with and without.
    Love the channels!

  • @Vern.Anderson
    @Vern.Anderson 4 роки тому

    Great job Kent and Andre!!!

  • @kingjc9935
    @kingjc9935 4 роки тому +1

    Im waiting to go to my basic training base and you guys don’t have the idea how happy I am to see this video, I was thinking I was not going to know the outcome of both of this truck mpg for a good time. Know im ready to buy my new 1/2 diesel truck once I get back to my hometown

  • @cumminsman4670
    @cumminsman4670 4 роки тому +14

    Glad you’re beating the EPA, it used 2 be I could never beat them ....I always thought they tested down hill or something. Lol

    • @steveknight9254
      @steveknight9254 3 роки тому

      I’m wondering if they warm the trucks up before doing the test.

    • @Hogger280
      @Hogger280 3 роки тому +1

      The manufacturers are testing (yes they do it and report to the EPA) more conservatively to avoid complaints and lawsuits like the Kia Soul.

  • @JanBartos24
    @JanBartos24 4 роки тому +11

    Great job as always! What would we do without TFL? :-)

  • @revgordon91
    @revgordon91 4 роки тому +1

    I LOVE THESE COMPARISONS!!

  • @kevinjones5057
    @kevinjones5057 4 роки тому +1

    You guys are putting out really great videos and have been really helpful. What is your mileage loop?

  • @paulherring8208
    @paulherring8208 4 роки тому +13

    Both good mpg for 1/2 ton trucks

  • @michaelneuhaus4432
    @michaelneuhaus4432 4 роки тому +7

    This was a great example of true knowledge for people to know what a truck can do awesome job

  • @HulkStillGotIt
    @HulkStillGotIt 4 роки тому

    I really can't wait to see you do the new Jeep Wrangler Eco Diesel real world test. Great videos I love it!

    • @harleyjackson5513
      @harleyjackson5513 4 роки тому

      The Gladiator is having problems with frames bending. Lol

  • @ronpauley3225
    @ronpauley3225 4 роки тому

    Great real world test. You can sure tell your driving I 76 out and into Denver with the noise from the highway expansion joints on the road. Boy I
    wish they would fix that road.

  • @tylermitchell4407
    @tylermitchell4407 4 роки тому +7

    🤣🤣 Mr Truck “you don’t know the song do ya?”

  • @berkalper4742
    @berkalper4742 4 роки тому +20

    Those a really impressive mpg numbers from both. It's good that ram offers the diesel in more trims levels, because the 8k price difference could pay for a decade of fuel

    • @kidamere2408
      @kidamere2408 4 роки тому

      Yeah exactly makes it hard to justify a diesel

    • @RBZ06LT6
      @RBZ06LT6 3 роки тому +1

      8k is like 2-3 years worth of fuel lol. For the extra longevity and better resale value. Its way better.

    • @HarshSingh-iu3xs
      @HarshSingh-iu3xs 3 роки тому

      @@RBZ06LT6 way less if you tow for a living lmfao 8k will be gone in 1.5 years.

  • @shuckan
    @shuckan 4 роки тому

    Great job guys!

  • @DetachedGarage
    @DetachedGarage 3 роки тому +1

    Great test TFLT! I'm interested to see what a 2500 would do with the same test.

  • @hungryhungryhummer
    @hungryhungryhummer 3 роки тому +13

    I really like the 3.0 duramax. Inline six, simple, reliable. I think these things will hold up. Good job GM!

    • @hungryhungryhummer
      @hungryhungryhummer 3 роки тому +5

      Update: this is the worst engine GM makes. Oil pump belt and timing chain only serviceable from the back by removing the transmission.

    • @luisperez5462
      @luisperez5462 3 роки тому +1

      @@hungryhungryhummer really?

    • @hungryhungryhummer
      @hungryhungryhummer 3 роки тому

      @@luisperez5462 yessir. Just saw a gm engineer explain it. He said “this oil pump belt can be easily serviced by simply moving the transmission back, and the timing chains are good for the life of the engine.” Aka you gotta drop the whole damn transmission to service the engine.

    • @corvetteZ3r
      @corvetteZ3r 3 роки тому

      @@hungryhungryhummer does that make it not reliable tho?

    • @ChrisAIO
      @ChrisAIO 3 роки тому +1

      @@hungryhungryhummer I don't think I would go that far. it doesn't have to be replaced until 150k miles, and I can drop a transmission quicker than I can remove the front fascia off these newer trucks.

  • @truckguyjoe
    @truckguyjoe 4 роки тому +75

    Way to go Chevy! Everyone was doubting the Chevy 0-60 & fuel economy!

    • @foxwithshades7080
      @foxwithshades7080 4 роки тому +17

      And Chevy Announced that the are increasing the tow rating for it next year.

    • @jasonfalk7696
      @jasonfalk7696 4 роки тому +14

      Now they just have to change the way it looks!

    • @224bigwheel
      @224bigwheel 4 роки тому +12

      Because it's ugly. I'm a Chevy guy. But won't drive this truck until they make the front end not look like a Honda. The ram looks 10x better

    • @jaysson1151
      @jaysson1151 4 роки тому +7

      They also need to offer a larger fuel tank.

    • @stevochar
      @stevochar 4 роки тому +1

      What is the 0 to 60 on this

  • @jamesdean780
    @jamesdean780 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting. I have a 2020 silverado rst four wheel drive duramax. It also has a levelling pack so it is not elevated at the rear. I found the mileage to be similar to this demo pulling a 5000 lb (approx) camper in hilly terrain. Very happy with it so far. Purchased used with 50,000 km on it.
    )

  • @VikingBagsYT
    @VikingBagsYT 4 роки тому

    Much respect from everyone here at Vikingbags!

  • @ericrodriguez3541
    @ericrodriguez3541 3 роки тому +4

    How many of us now fuel up, wait 30sec and then fill it lol 😂🙌

  • @claymcdaniel8500
    @claymcdaniel8500 4 роки тому +23

    Curious to see how both of these platforms last with their emissions systems.

    • @airtexaco
      @airtexaco 4 роки тому +4

      Clay McDaniel can you imagine how much better they would perform if they took all of that EPA junk off???

    • @steveknight9254
      @steveknight9254 3 роки тому

      I’m hoping with the LP (dpf filtered) EGR loops they will be less fragile.

    • @Hogger280
      @Hogger280 3 роки тому +3

      The Chevy uses a low pressure EGR most of the time after engine warms up and the Exhaust gas is taken out after the particulate filter so minimal soot going into the EGR valve.

  • @sparks2429
    @sparks2429 4 роки тому +1

    I just got done shopping for a 1500 diesel. Ford was out because they dont offer in every trim. Chevy was a contenter until I found out the timing belts facing the fire wall are the Achilles heel of it. Ram interior feels spacious, has a flat back (good for dogs, and is really torquey. I am now the proud owner of a 2020 ecodiesel bighorn sport in white!

  • @hughg.rection9161
    @hughg.rection9161 3 роки тому

    my 2008 cobalt xfe with 328k miles on it gets about 32-35mpg. Ive just bought a 2020 silverado duramax RST and ill be happy to know it can accomplish the same.. and its a little more comfy haha. great job guys

  • @gfinnstrom
    @gfinnstrom 4 роки тому +3

    there are some other sites that do the mpg test and they have adapted your style of filling topping off the tanks guess you set the standards

  • @kirkgordon4469
    @kirkgordon4469 4 роки тому +5

    Mr Truck was having a hard time talking in the dodge with all that bouncing around goin on in cab 😂

    • @calebniederhofer6529
      @calebniederhofer6529 4 роки тому +1

      The ram has the best ride out of all them by far lol. It has a coiled over suspension. I have a Ford , and i will admit Ram has the best interior , ride .

  • @steveknight9254
    @steveknight9254 3 роки тому +2

    Andre, Mr truck. Thanks for your consistent standardized testing, it makes it easy to compare apples to apples. The Straight six is a better diesel in my books. I’m not sure if the duramax has oil consumption issues but I do prefer the GM despite the lower towing weight. I’m looking forward to seeing how the Tahoe\Suburban compares on this test to the Chevrolet/GMC truck when the Duramax becomes available in that GM sport Ute platform. I’m also interested in how the GM/Dodge 4X4 trucks compare on this test. Most people in snowy states\Provinces prefer the 4X4’s. Andre I appreciate your calibration of the vehicle Speedo’s to a true GPS speed, I have always found GM to be dead nuts accurate (Which has was confirmed by your cross check) to the gps speed but don’t have any experience with Dodge any comments? I curious if the ram speedo is as accurate.

  • @shotgunabc
    @shotgunabc 4 роки тому

    Really like this comparison as I am looking at both of these trucks right now and weighing the options, but I got to tell ya, with a 7000lb load behind these trucks, an da 7000lbs load behind my 2016 RAM SLT 4x4 I am getting just almost as good mileage as the chevy, I am averaging 11.5MPG with 7000lbs and my truck is a 4x4. The only advantage for me would be the non towing fuel economy, best unloaded MPG for me is 24MPG. Great job fellas keep it up!

  • @kaliman198117ify
    @kaliman198117ify 4 роки тому +40

    Great comparisons. I would like to see a different truck from ram other than pre production. Also I'm not sure if it is 66 miles each way or total but I think the 98 mile loop will bring more accurate results

    • @seagullsbtn
      @seagullsbtn 4 роки тому +2

      Doing the 66 mile loop, swapping trailers, then doing it again, and refilling once only after both runs might be the best of all.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 4 роки тому +6

      It's 66 miles total. I agree with you, they should keep the 98 mile loop.

  • @roamingwolfpack
    @roamingwolfpack 4 роки тому +13

    Max towing capacity is a big factor for those that will use a truck for towing, even if on occasion! Personally Ram with the higher towing capacity & larger fuel tank win.

  • @johnnyrez1
    @johnnyrez1 2 роки тому

    Great video gentlemen.

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 3 роки тому +1

    Hey guys! Here I am camping with my travel trailer, at just over 6,000 lbs. with my 2019. Colorado Crew Cab, 4x4, V6, my average mpg at the pumps today at sea level more or less, but hills on the Florida Turnpike, came to 11 mpg! At 70 mph!

  • @cash2.0
    @cash2.0 4 роки тому +3

    My Ram 2500 crew cab 4X4 gets over 25mpg highway unloaded at 65mph running a stock 5.9 high output common rail 325hp Cummins.

    • @TheXOoftheRO
      @TheXOoftheRO 4 роки тому +1

      Rams have always dominated efficiency.

    • @meals24u
      @meals24u 4 роки тому

      woof bark growl what year? That’s impressive

    • @cash2.0
      @cash2.0 4 роки тому

      It's a 2006. The 5.9 Cummins does not come with a DPF or SCR smog devices. The later 6.7 does so I chose the older one. Mine is considered a 3rd generation. It is 24 valve but has common rail injection and doesn't have the notorious killer dowel pin of the 1st gen and no #53 block bad castings and no VP44 injection pump issues of the 2nd gens. They got it right in the 3rd gen and, unlike the 1st & 2nd gens, can get a real crew cab.

    • @travispfannmuller7717
      @travispfannmuller7717 4 роки тому +1

      Been there, had an 06 3500 srw 4x4 based on the advice of a relative who raved about fuel efficiency. My experience was it was comparable with my 06 6.0 power stroke 3500 srw 4x4 and buddies 04 duramax. And if I drove the Cummins like I had a raw egg under my foot I could get 20, towing was worse economy than the other trucks in my experience. And the horrible 4 SPD auto (even after significant upgrades) made towing heavy an adventure. New trucks are so much better they shouldn't be mentioned in the same conversation in my opinion

    • @harleyjackson5513
      @harleyjackson5513 4 роки тому

      New Ford 6.7 is impressive.

  • @theunknowntinman
    @theunknowntinman 4 роки тому +3

    Test the 4x4 Top of the Line versions of these trucks please!

  • @GMZee559
    @GMZee559 3 роки тому +1

    Great Video/Show👏👏👌

  • @elijahnester9680
    @elijahnester9680 2 роки тому +2

    That was a high price then, would love to see it now.

  • @MrInnovativeSound
    @MrInnovativeSound 4 роки тому +12

    Great job guys! I’m curious how often regen cycles effect these tests. The passive regen modes are so difficult to detect in these trucks, but could easily swing the mileage dramatically one way or the other.

    • @ShotGunner5609
      @ShotGunner5609 4 роки тому +3

      Depends on your driving. Longer distances the engine is doing it by itself without needing to go into regen. Least thats how semis are.

    • @406Steven
      @406Steven 4 роки тому +2

      @@ShotGunner5609 It's all about using your diesel truck as a diesel truck rather than a daily driver. We got over 200k miles out of the stock emissions system on our 2016 Silverado 3500 as a car hauler before having to replace the DPF. The second DPF outlasted the head gaskets and transmission.

    • @Rift45
      @Rift45 4 роки тому

      @@406Steven Excellent point, if you run a diesel all day the MPGs get better and better. Short trips it will be much lower.

    • @fr8trainUS
      @fr8trainUS 2 роки тому

      My 06 Cummins closing in on 300k I average 18 mpg not towing. I can't complain. Now if I can get the death wobble sorted out

  • @keithmurphy806
    @keithmurphy806 4 роки тому +6

    Note: I have a 2019 model ram and there is a recall note for the mirrors if you have the power folding mirrors. The internal gear strips out and will need replaced. If you plan on buying one with power mirrors test them out. Mine stopped working after 6 months.

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk 4 роки тому +1

      I did not know that. I have a 2019 longhorn with 3500 miles and I'm going after the lemon law right now.

    • @lococubaa
      @lococubaa 4 роки тому

      John Doe What problems are you having?

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk 4 роки тому +2

      Transmission clunk (works as designed, but ram is working on a permanent fix), electrical issues with the infotainment system and anc. Brakes were replaced, rear main oil leak (300 miles), rim had to be replaced, interior panel piece had to be replaced, chrome molding had to be replaced, steering wheel has to be replaced, rear back window has to be replaced, they don't know if they can fix the hood yet (falling off the hinges), bed was made wrong (ram said deal with it), having issues with the gas tank, dash creaks, interior plastic window molding issue, ventilated seat issue. Paint is starting to change a different color on the plastic pieces (tri color white).

    • @lococubaa
      @lococubaa 4 роки тому +2

      John Doe holy crap lol. Hope the lemon law goes your way.

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk 4 роки тому +3

      Jay P. Yea, me too. But I've been reading that these have been common issues with the 19's. I hope the 20's are much better!

  • @frambach508
    @frambach508 4 роки тому +2

    Good video. Thanks for the comparison.
    Results at 20:18

  • @yiannisnikiforou3839
    @yiannisnikiforou3839 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Are you guys going to test the F150 power stroke vs these two trucks?

  • @craigr6763
    @craigr6763 4 роки тому +6

    I noticed the rear end sway on my eco diesel as well, I was thinking of getting a bigger anti sway bar? Your opinion?
    And all the eco diesels come with the block heater in the motor, just the cord is a option

  • @rcairforceone
    @rcairforceone 4 роки тому +7

    I'd like to see a hyper mile test... take a 2wd truck, add a tonneau cover and a 2/4 drop. See how big a difference it makes, if any.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 4 роки тому

      Don't for get a set of low rolling resistance, tall/narrow/80psi tires.

    • @rcairforceone
      @rcairforceone 4 роки тому

      @@hendo337 that would be good for the test, but I won't trade off grip for the low rolling resistance on my daily(s)!

  • @2010hondacbr1000rr
    @2010hondacbr1000rr 2 роки тому

    Incredible! About to purchase the new 2022 updated model chevy high country

  • @jonathanjohnson7131
    @jonathanjohnson7131 4 роки тому +2

    You best do you research on the Duramax diesel it has a belt-driven oil pump that has to be changed every hundred and twenty thousand miles and you got to pull the transmission to change it 😠😠

  • @dylandownard209
    @dylandownard209 4 роки тому +7

    I’d be really curious to see a long term longevity test (100k+ miles of mixed city, Highway, loaded and unloaded use) to see how they stack up in terms of reliability. Both trucks I think would make a great truck, I just have a hard time trusting either one. The eco diesels suffered from cam gear slippage and emissions issues, and reading up on the duramax specs and how it’s made I’m not so sure I like all the aluminum used in the construction considering the higher heat diesels put out, even with iron cylinder liners. Also not so sure I like the fact that there’s up to 10 injection events per combustion cycle. Sounds ridiculously over complicated and prone to failure.

    • @computer1166
      @computer1166 Рік тому

      I think both engines would work fine under 100k miles, over that numbers maybe it's time to sell

    • @davidporter7051
      @davidporter7051 10 місяців тому

      The 3.0 Duramax has proven to be extremely reliable especially over the Ecodiesel. The only downside to the Duramax some like to consume oil.

  • @darrengibson644
    @darrengibson644 4 роки тому +5

    Nice job! But sadly- not so much on the singing....Curious- do you know what was the weight difference between the trucks?

    • @geezusmeatball1328
      @geezusmeatball1328 4 роки тому +2

      Chevy weighy 200lbs less than ram thats what they said last video

  • @woody6773
    @woody6773 4 роки тому

    Great job guys just want I’ve been waiting for.
    Do both truck have the winter grill levels? I’m not sure the right terminology. When it’s cold out the grill levels shit to make more heat? I think the Chevy does , but not sure about the dodge.

  • @allanj4576
    @allanj4576 4 роки тому +1

    Great to see these comparisons but just like anything it's a different story when you start dealing with mountains all day, I live in western Canada and I never get even close to EPA ratings.

  • @PatrickRich
    @PatrickRich 4 роки тому +3

    man those are impressive unladen highway numbers.

  • @JsGarage
    @JsGarage 4 роки тому +5

    Percentage wise the 3.0L diesels are taking a bigger hit when the trailer gets hooked up compared to gas. The Ram for the sake of easier math only gets 1/3 the economy.

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 4 роки тому

      I suppose one good thing is that if someone towed alot with them heavy they are probably working them hard enough to not clog up the emissions crap and have regen cycles....that's all I got that could be positive.

    • @alexs3187
      @alexs3187 4 роки тому

      You’re going to save about 30%, the 90-95% of the time when you’re not towing. Then maybe 10-20% the 5-10% of the time you are pulling, so it still makes more sense to pay the extra for the diesel as opposed to paying that extra for the 6.2.

  • @Rockrewls
    @Rockrewls 4 роки тому

    And now for the IKE, great job folks!!!

  • @chadsteele1
    @chadsteele1 4 роки тому +1

    Will be nice to see the HD comparisons.

  • @swss12
    @swss12 4 роки тому +4

    the MPG drops similar (but worse) as a gasser. more load = more fuel...

  • @FirePoo
    @FirePoo 4 роки тому +4

    I gotta admit I love my '14 ecodiesel grand cherokee with the gde tune, but I've never ever ever been a fan of v6 engines. To me they feel like they have the torque of a 4cyl down low with the fuel efficiency of a much larger engine. Basically, I just don't enjoy the way they deliver their power. I've always loved a straight 6 configuration. To me they've always delivered nearly instant torque down low and given fantastic fuel economy compared to v8 counterparts. That's why I've always preferred Toyota supra's to corvettes and i6 jeeps compared to v8 off road monsters. I've never owned an i6 Cummins, but it's definitely on my "must own" list. I purchased my ecodiesel jeep instead of a Cummins 2.5 years ago because I'm averaging 30k+ miles per year. I tow between 1200lbs to 6800lbs every other weekend, but a little ecodiesel was more economical for my purposes driving 600mi/week unloaded. Of the 30k+ miles per year that I drive, at most I'm only towing 3k-5k miles of that, and like I said, the trailers are only 1200lbs to 6800lbs depending on the project that week.
    I'm extremely interested in the chevy 3.0l diesel simply because it's an i6, so the torque down low compared to the v6 ecodiesel should be immense. I don't really give a rats ass about peak torque, I mean sure it's great having a lot of torque, but really what matters is area under the curve. I want to know how these two deliver their power on a dyno, on the same day, same conditions, same time. The numbers that matter are how much torque each engine puts down off idle up to around 3.5k-4.5k rpm. The area under the curve matters so much more than peak, it really irritates me when people just "parrot" the claimed peak power number.
    Imo that i6 3.0l diesel could be something truly special. Let's get all 3 3.0l diesels and have a dyno day and overlay all 3 dyno graphs to compare the numbers at various points of the rpm range where the engines are usually being run day-to-day. Please TFL make it happen! ♥

  • @joecaddy2325
    @joecaddy2325 4 роки тому

    very impressive. Just picked up the Chevy (First one ever, always been a Ford guy) -- and without towing a 21 foot bass boat -- I am really impressed. Probably going to try out the boat tow tomorrow.

    • @harleyjackson5513
      @harleyjackson5513 4 роки тому

      You will be back. I did the same. I should have stayed with Ford!

  • @chriss2352
    @chriss2352 Рік тому

    Amazing the difference in diesel price and truck prices watching this in December 2022

  • @vibeslafren1604
    @vibeslafren1604 4 роки тому +10

    I have a ram 1500 5.7 but if I’m buying another Truck I’ll get chevy 2500 high country Duramax with a Allison Trans perfect combination( never mind I did some research and a lot of GM trucks and SUV have vibration and shake issues so no thank you )

    • @Pantallideth94
      @Pantallideth94 4 роки тому +3

      Just pray to god nothing engine or transmission related goes wrong.

    • @vibeslafren1604
      @vibeslafren1604 4 роки тому

      MOPAR 401 why?😂

    • @BullittKid08
      @BullittKid08 4 роки тому +1

      @@vibeslafren1604 new 2500 has a 10 speed, they're not known for vibrations and shaking

  • @garthhayward9581
    @garthhayward9581 4 роки тому +5

    That's a really good result from both manufacturers. Amazing to see how these small block high torque motors have advanced.Anyone recall what the Fords results were? Great work Andre and Mr Truck.

    • @yogiyoda
      @yogiyoda 4 роки тому +1

      powerstroke got 11.6 towing. but you can't really compare because that trailer didn't have a hay rack.

    • @garthhayward9581
      @garthhayward9581 4 роки тому

      yogiyoda Thanks, any idea how it did unloaded?

    • @yogiyoda
      @yogiyoda 4 роки тому +1

      @@garthhayward9581 -nope, sorry

    • @harleyjackson5513
      @harleyjackson5513 4 роки тому

      I would definately get the Ford!

  • @Ryan-yi6su
    @Ryan-yi6su 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey guys I just watched another video regarding the type of diesel you need to use for your trucks and it has to be top tier.
    And if you can't use top-tier diesel then they recommend using a diesel treatment every fill up

  • @HyperXism
    @HyperXism 4 роки тому +1

    That is amazing!!

  • @jamespenner1412
    @jamespenner1412 4 роки тому +14

    Great job, now please test what 80 percent of the market buys, A 4x4!!!!!

    • @meatbeansandcheese
      @meatbeansandcheese 4 роки тому

      Just calculate a MPG or so difference for the 500lbs of running gear that's used 3 times during the life of the truck.

    • @gregchiropolos9885
      @gregchiropolos9885 4 роки тому +4

      Frendo not if you live in snow country

    • @TdrSld
      @TdrSld 4 роки тому +2

      @@gregchiropolos9885 I live in South Texas and use mine 7 -8 times a month, and thats not even counting my beach trips lol. When I lived in Laramie Wy, I lived in 4HI for 5 months of the year almost lol, god I hated that place in winter haha.

    • @TdrSld
      @TdrSld 4 роки тому

      @@meatbeansandcheese more like 200-230lbs for 1/2 ton 4x4 system.

    • @meatbeansandcheese
      @meatbeansandcheese 4 роки тому

      @@TdrSld I fully understand that many people actually use their 4x4 system regularly, but even in generalizing, I'm at least 70% correct by saying that many people will only use it 3 times in the life of the vehicle.

  • @SanMan7
    @SanMan7 4 роки тому +5

    All I know is my buddy got the Ram with the little diesel and has had nothing but problems with it. The dealer doesn't apparently know how to work on it either.

    • @jsboening
      @jsboening 4 роки тому

      Is it this latest generation diesel?

    • @SanMan7
      @SanMan7 4 роки тому

      @@jsboening Yes a 2019 that has been at the dealer for over 1/3 of the year.

    • @jsboening
      @jsboening 4 роки тому

      San Man that’s awful. Think I’ll stick to the hemi.

    • @harleyjackson5513
      @harleyjackson5513 4 роки тому

      I will stick with my Ford F-150!

  • @tjeick
    @tjeick 4 роки тому +2

    Can’t wait to see how these engines hold up over time.

    • @steveknight9254
      @steveknight9254 3 роки тому

      Me too. I don’t like to buy a first year of anything, RD on my Nickle, NOT! Let someone else pay!

  • @titanicsauce2152
    @titanicsauce2152 4 роки тому +1

    Good video guys. Mr. Truck, those little mirrors are convex, not concave.