Best Half-Ton Towing Truck! Ford F-150 vs GM 1500 vs Ram 1500 vs World's Toughest Towing Test
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Ford sets the bar .. all we buy! RAM is looking better every yr tho. Still Ford never stands by ..best never rest!
Why wasn't the Silverado in the 28,500 lb tow test? I realize that it's not "rated" to tow 30k but it would have been interesting to see how it would have compared to the "rated" trucks. I mean in the 2017 test the Silverado was at it's max tow capacity and bested the other two, I'm just saying. ✌✌
Did the ford have max tow package becouse i thought thay came with tow mirrors and 373 rear end?
Good thing you guys don't have to live with air ride for any length of time. In full size SUV's and trucks, it's never been long term reliable. I'd be willing to bet that it's going to be the Achilles heel of that truck in the long term.
@@bradkuske7937 you weren't suppose to notice that
This must have been a solid week of work to shoot and edit this with 4-5 people. HUGE investment by TFL, but exactly what sets you guys apart. It’s Halo work, it won’t pay bills from ad revenue, but it makes your power base trust and love you. NICE JOB GUYS AND GALS!!
I was going to say these videos take a lot of work and man hours...ok fine and woman hours to shoot, edit, and upload....TFL has some great information out there on vehicles regardless what brand.
They said in the October snowfall ...I wonder why it took them so long to edit it??
Paul Rodrigues yea good callout, noticed that too, maybe editing backed up on other high profile “holiday ad revenue click friendly” videos? It’s a shame that stuff like this doesn’t drive traffic like flashier stuff but I get it. Just glad TFL is willing to invest in these.
Great job with this test guys, I really appreciate the real-word analysis topped with the subjective score comparison from each of you. This takes the work out of trying to compare these trucks by going out to each dealership and trying to learn what you can from test drives. Well done!
don’t think the interiors of a ram limited should be compared to a lower trim level of a ford lariat or a gmc slt. should be ford limited and denali gmc
I agree
Interiors also dont affect performance.
@@kylekenan2321 They heavily affect price points.
Yet your still spending less on the Ram, yes?
The interior of a regular big horn or night edition is still better then the higher trim options of Ford and Chevy. People need to stop being brand biased and realize Ram is the best all around truck right now.
Own a F150 and dearly love it, but honestly there ain’t a bad truck in the bunch! The GMC is the looker, the RAM best interior a vehicle, big bad sounding HEMI and the Ford just a good all around truck to be basically the same since 2015. My advice get your best deal and enjoy anyone of 3! Congratulations RAM folks.
You sir are correct. I'm a gm guy and this was very fair review. We have our loyalties but we can be civil and appreciate other trucks , why? Because they are trucks!
But you’re talking about the American brands, right? Since the Tundra is 10 years old, and the Nissan Titan is worse than the Tundra, even though it’s 2 years old.
The outgoing GMC is a much better looking truck.
Right on, Popoy and Bryan. I also bought 2015 F150 and love it. But I ain't never seen a truck I don't like. Almost bought Chevy, but same dealer as Ram, and they are just not dealers I like. Ford dealer is great. So in my case, the dealer made the difference in brand I chose. In my small town, same old boy owns every dealership except Nissan and Ford! ALL of them.
The ram I think is the best. P.S the HEMI is the sound of power
All of these trucks tow great, buy the one you like the most.
The truth, Brian. That's what I did, and bought new F150 2015 Platinum
But the most reliable one hasn't been updated yet. It's not even in the video. Better wait for fall of 2021
@@sevnlight6313 I will always buy something that is 2-3 years old to save on the large depreciation hit. My truck is 14 years old, probably go another 10 years before I buy something else.
@@BrianNC81 I use to buy trucks that were 2 to 3 years old. I had too many bad experiences.
Other people will never take care of a truck the way you will.
Most of those used ones are fleet trucks, that's even worse.
I would suggest buy it new and keep it forever. Or until the "wheels fall off."
The smell the feeling of being the first owner and ordering it exactly the way you want it. Is just a huge treat in this life. One of the few pleasures in life.
@@sevnlight6313 We bought my wife's 4runner new with 50% down and the rest on a 3 year loan. Only reason is because they hold their value extremely well and difference in cost was minimal between new and used. I really dislike having debt so I'm more likely to buy what I can afford to purchase with cash. My 05 Duramax had 30k miles when I bought it used. Been a great truck and still runs like new.
You guys at the fast lane truck do a great job and I always enjoy the videos! Thanks for that. I just want to add that in all honesty, all these trucks will do what they were built for. Hauling the heaviest loads is great entertainment but in reality, they are all pretty decent trucks that will do everyday chores. Not that many of us are going to haul three tons up the ike gauntlet and worry about holding 60mph lol. Thanks again for the great job though!
Got a 2019 ram with the tow package and the 3.92 rear end based partially on this video. I haven't been disappointed. It's my first hemi, but it wont be my last. I'm a ram convert.
I'm with you on that... I have a 2019 Laramie Ram 4x4 Hemi 5.7 and love it (Mud/Snow wide tire package, tow package, spayed bed with tie down rails)!
Gonna be in the shop alot
Good luck you will be seeing the shop a lot I have a friend that worked on these trucks & that can’t even surpass 60k miles without either transmission issues or some time electrical issues
Ya ok convert, give ot a couple years and you'll be jumping ship
While i really like watching the ike tests, im disappointed to see the ford in last place, when it jerked the trailer up the mountain with much less effort than those screaming v8’s. The other two do have nice interior cabins, but is this a tow test or a beauty pageant?
D H it is a tow test. Not a race up a hill test.
Amaranthian450 yeah they used the uphill test to see which truck has the least problem towing and most power buddy
Ryan Lynch 👍
You could tell they were in the tank for the RAM from the get go. Tests are not scientific. Their opinions leak in there very heavily. Video should be called the truck we like best.
It all comes down to what manufacturer sent the most optional equiped truck out to be tested
How is the GOLD HITCH AWARD won by interior features and not towing capability? Suggestion: give a conversion factor for price- that way you can compare the trucks and not the bells and whistles. If you have a $30k swing in price for options it should be reflected in the score. Also if you load according to the lowest payload or tow rating of the competitors, factor the percentage of total. If one truck is maxed out at 7k gvw and another at 10k, take the average of the class and reward the manufacturers for building an above average offering.
Those are some good ideas, but it'll never happen. TFL isn't the same no nonsense reviewers they used to be.
Exactly- this is suppose to be a towing test, and the Ram won because of its interior? Best interior, I agree, best at towing, NOT!
I really wish RAM would take the Gloves off and put the 6.4L hemi in the 1/2 ton as the GM is a 6.2L.
The really sad thing is that GM fans made such a big deal over the LS7 with it's titanium valves and rods with it's 7k rpm redline line. When the 392 Hemi makes more power per cubic inch without needing to rev that high.
@@JerseyMikeP I am a Chevy guy but know Hemi makes the best engines. Still that LS7 is very nice !
JerseyMikeP right it would make it so much better
JerseyMikeP screaming revs is just plain hard on engines no matter what they are. You can build them with special whatever but later on you’ll pay a price for all that high rpms.
@@drizler 6.4L makes peak power at only 5,600 rpms in the pickups, by no means is that high rpms.
Love the Channel and the results of the Test! Pretty impressed with the Ford EcoBoost though despite being a huge Mopar fan.
I'm ok with the results but the main thing that NOBODY mentioned was the fact those V8's were SCREAMING all the way up the hill and it took the Ford until the last block to downshift, they had to be careful not to speed. Not surprised the far newer trucks won out on this one.
EcoBoost rules !!
11:16 oh man I love this song! *Turns up transmission dial*
GREAT JOB GUYS. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE 2019 HD IKE TEST!
I have a f250 lariat and love everything about it, inside and out
First mod I did to my 18 Power Wagon was to install rear air bags in cradles. I knew I was going to tow and haul a lot in it and there’s nothing better than being able to tow/haul at stock height. It’s the way the truck was designed to ride/handle best. I had bags in an 06 F150 as well. It makes a world of difference. For RAM to offer 4 corner air suspension in the 1500 is genius.
You don't need air bags in the front total waste of money .
It's so funny how people get mad because there brand of truck didn't come in first place so they have to make excuses, me personally I don't care what truck comes in first, second or third, I will still buy the truck that I like best
Franklin Stidham 🙏
I hear ya me I'm not brand loyal and could care less. Some fanboys get butt hurt easy lol
9 times out of 10 it will be a GM guy bitching about something. It seems like the Ford and Dodge crowd can be mature about a friendly competition, but the GM pansies are just BITTER! They're that way at the race track too....shit gets old.
Uncle Deez Ford fanbois are the biggest cry babies of them all!
@@208SledHead
All 3 brand loyalists are crybabies, neither one is worse than the other! I watch all these vids regularly involving Fords, Chryslers and GM. Whenever there's a review, comparison test, race, owner experience, etc, the fanboyism comes out strong!
Truth is, people are just selfish, biased, and superficial when it comes to what they like!
Good video! Really liked the test you guys perform and the comparisons
Just the info I was looking for. Thanks guys!
Does anybody test trucks better than TFLTruck?! I don't think SO!!
Yes the Canadian tested the hell out of the new 4runner.i think they should always beat the shit out of these trucks to see what thru can do ☺
vaughn357 I second that!! Can’t believe this channel isn’t bigger then what it is. These guys have for sure set the standard! 👌
@@Matts000 they are getting there. I have been a member of the subscribe button on here for a few months, and it had double in subsequent since then. I do wish the manufactures would send them trucks to test by what us fans want instead of what the manufacture wants to showcase. I think it would help the manufactures out way more. Some of us can barely afford a base trucks so I think more of that needs to be tested. Come on Ford, GM, Ram, Nissan, Toyota look at what we want tested, not what you want. Remember us customers are what keeps you in buisness.
@ vaughn357 You really kissing butt,lol😆
Oil fields 😂
This should just be about towing results. I own a chevy, but you can not deny ford is the best puller. Otherwise, I would buy what ever one I got the best deal on. They are all nice.
I own an F150 myself, but I love all three, no gripe whatsoever...
*Only at high altitude*
I drive a Ram, got a better deal on it. I would be happy with any of the 3. I do like Fords 5.0 over the hemi though.
Thats exactly right.....whatever you like best and get best deal on
I'd you really wanna tow and are running up grades like that just buy a 2500HD
TFL is the best, grateful to have a channel like this out there providing this type of content to assist folks in picking a new truck. he fatal flaw in this test is that its cold outside which gives the Ford a level play field with its turbo engine. From first hand experience the Ford is a great truck but cannot tow and handle 100+ degree weather. Towing a 4 seater Can am maverick from Phoenix to Flagstaff on a 100 plus degree day and the Ford goes into restricted performance mode. Talking to folks that live here in the Arizona desert they say the same thing. Love the truck, great truck, dont try and tow on a hot day at altitude.
Would love a video from you guys for half tons towing a 30foot plus TT and talking about sway and how to stop it on the newer trucks.
So excited, 4:30 am here in Canada. Guess I’m not going to sleep for at least 27mins
Both of the v8's were revving to the moon while the v6 ecoboost just loafed along not breaking a sweat. All 3 damn nice trucks.
The v6 had turbo at high altitude, that's kind of expected
What he said ^ with turbos, it doesn't matter what your altitude is. They're programmed to make a certain amount of boost at full throttle, regardless of ambient air pressure.
The v8s power band comes in at 4000 Rpms, where turbos come in around 1200 Rpms.
See: Torque curve. Also see: Forced Induction at high altitudes
General rule of thumb is that a turbo engine loses about .5% per 1000ft in elevation while a naturally aspirated engine loses about 3% for every 1000ft. So based in that, the ecoboost is losing about 20hp while the RAM and GMC are losing over 100hp. I grew up in Pennsylvania, moved to Colorado for 6 years, and moved back. I moved out to Colorado in an 08 V6 f150 and you can literally feel the power being lost. I bought a 14 ram while out there and moved back with it. Again you could feel the power being brought back while dropping in elevation. I lived at about 6800ft in colorado. While I was driving, I could tell a difference in my breathing so I looked at my GPS, snd I was at 4000ft still. It was enough of a difference in the air that I could tell I was breathing easier. I literally could do almost anything without being winded for about a month after I got back to near 400ft in Pennsylvania. My f150 did 0-60 in about 8.5 seconds in PA with a cold air intake and custom tune. In colorado it was about 11-12 seconds. And the ram went from about 7.5 to 5.9 seconds going from Colorado to PA.
Thses videos only apply to about 5% if buyers since it only covers what people in colorado and maybe Alaska might encounter. The lower the elevation, the closer the test results would be. These videos are interesting but really don't apply to most who watch them.
Best Dodge Ram commercial I watch all year.
Yeap lol
Unbelievable evaluation. Where did these guys come from? They are by far the best.
I think the real question is... which of these trucks has the most cup holders? I require no less than 16. Don't ask why...
It's to hold jars of mayonnaise.
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Lol my 2500 has 9 cup holders. I dont really understand it either. 9 cupholders but they cant give you a light under the hood.
My 07 taco has 8 lol i only use 1 lol
New ram has 12
you'll need a tundra ;)
Excuse me sir do you have any grey pompa?
I'm confused, I thought this was a towing test, not overall test. I would suspect the all new 2019 trucks would beat a 2015 designed truck, especially when it comes to interior. but who actually was the best towing truck?
Ford lol. This test should be strictly towing results.
@@BUILTDIESELMAFIA Yes, they can use their subjective to skew the test any way they want it.....they often do. Ive seen many where the truck that did the best on the hill got dinged in the subjective.
@@BamaShinesDistillery BUILT DIESEL MAFIA This is an overall test of the truck, and it's towing attributes. It's not just who gets up the hill the fastest. It's also HOW it gets up the hill, and how much gas it uses, comfort, handling with the loads. I love how people say the tests are rigged when their trucks don't win. Boo hoo!
@@bookooc5605 no one said rigged, they just say take the subjective out of it. It should be purely unbiased stats. Like dinging for the mirrors in this, you know as well as I that anyone who tows like that will order the towing mirrors.....idc who wins, just take opinion out of it.
@@BamaShinesDistillery I was thinking the same thing. who gets up the hill fastest, towing is most controlled/convenient, and best fuel economy. Sure those other attributes are fine. But, if i wanted a review, I wouldn't have clicked this video.
Here’s what I learned on these three trucks in regards to towing. The best part of the Ford is the Ecoboost motor which you can get in all trim levels. The Ram is it’s air ride suspension which I believe you can get in all trim levels for about $1,800. The GMC is the motor which you can only get in the top trim level. Which is why I drive an XLT Ford with the 3.5 Ecoboost.
Gm needs to pull their head out and make more options available across all levels.
I Doesn't Matter What Trim Level You In The Ford F-150 3.5L Ecoboost V6 But You Can Get A 3.55 Axle Ratio & That Is A Maximum Tow Package.
You will hate ecoboost when you will have to replace the Turbos after warranty.
@@trance20001 nahh you can replace the insides or a new set is like 650 not to bad
@@zackthomas1944 Buying Turbos is cheap, labor is what gets you. Especially, when manufacturers are designing the layout in a way you have to remove the engine to get to the Turbo.
Can't wait for the 2021 half-ton test! All of the trucks will be updated and more evenly matched!
-10 points for the gm for shutting down factories in north america and putting all those people out of work.
Go complain to Toyota or someone who has no factories here at all
@@joshdanial8945 Toyota still has American and Canadian factories
Ford sends all their work to Mexico too
@@loganamurray64 Ford's profits go to America not japan
AMEN!!!
I thought it was a towing test the Ford didnt even break a sweat the other two were ready to drop a valve at over 5 thousand rpm and it still lost.
You're right.somebody's getting paid.
Yeah that's what I thought to a little bias opinions if you ask me
Are you high? Ford sucks with poor reliability.
vulcanman64
They are all around the same for reliability. I drive Chevy for my work, they are good, however that have their problems. I prefer Ford for towing and Ram For interior. Chevy beats the Ram in towing and payload, whereas Ford beats the both in payload.
But to be fair, they are so close that you will be happy with either one of the 3.
@UgoMarsolais the 2 v8 trucks were running high rpm all the way up while the ford has greater torque at much lower rpm that's why they sound like they are working harder .
Thn for yours review guys..good job..you are always the best
Ford was the best at towing, it was going uphill with so much ease, between 2500-3000 rpm, unbelievable. Ford is the only one that offers Pro Trailer backup assist (amazing feature). Ford has a history of reliability on its trucks.
Air suspension? "Better mirrors"? No, thank you. I will buy a Ford.
Ford reliability. Lol that’s funny.
Ford reliability. Seriously? How often have they had to completely redesign? 5.4 with the 3 valve, considered the worst engine ever? 6.0 so bad it was replaced in record time. Ecoboosts showing lots of problems already. Don't use reliable and Ford in the same conversation.
@@wymple09 what about the 5.0 coyote?
@@jasb1133 Yeah, that's good. I don't see them with high miles, tho. What about the rest of them?
Raul Zagarduga I hope you are correct about these Ford trucks, because I would have never purchased a Ford product had I not needed a truck...keeping my fingers crossed.
I love it when the ford tows the best but somehow comes in last place 🙃
Exactly what I was thinking. Best towing truck of the test got last place? Worst towing truck got 1st?
A turbo truck will always tow better at altitude. Closer to sea level, where I spend most of my time, the 6.2 kills the Ecoboost.
Did you notice the Fiat Ram was a platinum edition and the Ford I'm guessing was a Baseline there's going to be a big difference in interior
Exactly what I was thinking. They kind of went from testing trucks to which one is the best luxury car.
RAM much better truck
Since Fiat bought them out you got a ram Fiat's
Great test, great video! And I like the RAM too! :)
Awesome informative video!!!
Great video guys!
I am old school. Whoever gets up the hill first; wins. Thanks Ford!
Hell yeah
And that was a v6 Ford vs GMC and ram v8s nice!
All depends who’s driving. They get as technical as they can but my 6.2 pulls just as good if not better then the Ford but I have the 8 speed auto and older body style. And it’s broke in. Not knocking the Ford because I like all three. Have a Durango with 5.7 and considered Ford when purchasing.
@@malcolmallen9340 yea twin turbo V-6 lol huge difference. Let’s twin turbo a v-8 and put them next to each other 😂
@@Mrad72 displacement should always win
Very helpful if you could include the list price information for each truck tested.
October!?! You holding out on us lol just kidding love these videos! Keep them coming!
Love you guys work 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
4600 rpm is about as high as the gm went when literally he just redlined it a 6k moments before at the top of the ramp
Really interested in comparing their new Diesels (?)...power, mileage, towing, reliability, etc
Great video! New sub here. Keep up the great work!
Nice to see how they are all starting to equal out.
Love your videos. I will say that the only part I don't agree with is the grade brake test. I think you should either use cruise control, or what I recommend, is to use manual shifting. If I am towing a load downhill in Colorado, (which I do every year in camping season), I will manually downshift on steep declines. I rarely use the brakes, unless engine rpms get too high. This would be a more real-world experience of how capable the gas vehicles are at handling the downhill portion of the Ike Gauntlet. If a driver is going to get into trouble, it is more likely to be when going downhill. If someone is traveling through any area like the "Gauntlet", then they should pay close attention to how well that vehicle holds on the downhill grades, and how to properly approach them. Watching Kent demonstrate proper downhill shifting would probably help educate the great following that you have.
One thing that they didn't point out but was obvious in the video, again, is that the GM and Dodge V8's had to constantly downshift and scream to redline to hold that 60MPH.
The Ecoboost seemed to stay in the mid RPM's most of the time until they seemingly manipulated it to do that downshift right at the end to get the sound level test.
LOL
Thats because the f150 has twin turbo's and the chevy and Ram are naturally aspirated and they are a mile above sea level meaning less o2 in the air ! Ofcourse its gonna stay in the lower rpm range !!
@@HEMI345375 so the ford is best thank you for clearing that up
@@kevindodge2103 where did the Ford finish ? Ohhh thats right 3rd out of 3 trucks ! So no its not the best it came in last but nice try !
@@HEMI345375 thats there opinion just because it has nicer interior doesnt mean its a better truck
Really? What place did it come in? The ecoboost slaughtered the other trucks and the 8:00 minute benchmark was set by the ecoboost. The Ford lost because of something that has nothing to do with towing or work related. I like all 3 trucks. Its difficult because I want to see the actual mpg measured and not just go off of the computer.
Excellent review
How did the three trucks compare in getting up to 60 mph? That would be informative for how quick they merge onto a freeway when towing.
Great test guys. Really informativ.
Our 2018 RAM 2500 HD, 4 doors, 6.5 bed, and a 6.4 Hemi, 6-speed auto transmission and 4:10 rear end tows our 9500lbs travel trailer very well so far. We towed the trailer from the coast of NC to Asheboro NC and got 10-13mpg. and get 15-19 running around without the trailer. Any thoughts about this truck.
Check their playlist. They ram this truck up the Ike against the other 2
King Daniel 🤣🤣🤣 keeeep talking you dumbass fanboi!
I have the 3.73 and it is awesome.
Guys thanks again!
I'd like to know how much different did the 10spd trans differ. Just traded out of my 18 f150. Ford could not get the studder fixed among a few other items I wasn't willing to accept.
Love my 3.5 L Ford. All good looking and tough trucks. Loved the video
Huge Ford guy here, and I am very much ok with those results. The Ford is 4 years old and will probably be 5 years old before they replace it with a new model. Ya can’t stay on top forever. The other 2 ( especially in the Ram ) have a way better interior and the fit and finish is a lot better. So until Ford releases a New F150 these are the results you can expect to see.
Yeah, but i would like to see a "just the facts comparison" also, without the operators input, ie. speed, fuel eco, braking, ect. I feel like they do a good test .just hold back some info.
I still think fords interior is way nicer than the gmc/chevy.
Did you know that Ford helped the Nazi’s in WW2 winning the Nazi Party’s Golden Eagle award for great service to Germany and was awarded by Adolf himself? Now FoMoCo funds the alt-left terrorist group Antifa. I just learned this a few months ago and will no longer support anti-American, Ford.
@@ChuckBeefOG hah, antifa. Ford supported hitler pre war where he was getting the hyperinflated Germany get on its feet and he saw that as a great thing. Doubt he saw the war or holocaust coming at all.
Chuck Beef LOL nope
I’m a GM guy and I have to agree that they need to update that interior compared to ford and dodge especially. They’re all great trucks though so it boils down to personal preference.
Thanks🙌
Wanted an F-150; spent 4 hours negotiating and got nowhere. I didn't just walk away, I walked away feeling like I had been insulted. I'd been a Ford guy for decades, but what they wanted for what was admittedly a really nice, fully loaded truck still didn't make any damn sense when you look at what it really is. We tried a few different dealers, even tried the local Toyota dealers who were really nice folks, but we hit the Ram dealership (knew nothing about the new Rams until the night before) and as soon as we sat it one it was all over. It's not even close, but at the end of the day it is a truck and it costs money and it had to make sense. Not only was the Ram a nicer vehicle, but it was about $15K cheaper than the Ford. I will say that 3.5L ecoboost with that 10 speed is damn impressive, but there is something to be said for just going with a naturally aspirated motor vs something that has boost in it. Gas mileage sucks in both of them, but that Hemi does sound nice. It worked out in the end, but Ford would have had another sale if they didn't let me leave. I swear it seemed like every time the salesperson came back with an offer from the manager that they thought that I was an idiot....it was the same damn numbers every time, just moved around a bit. I buy a lot of cars and they didn't just lose one sale.
ashasha3 , I had same experience in 2015, ford guy converted to Ram because the price and how you get treated, love hemi!
All three look amazing 🤙
Good luck trying to find a RAM with the Air Suspension unless you order the Limited. Why dealers don't stock them with lower trim levels baffles me. I buy a truck to tow mostly , and don't want leather etc.
Just cause it went up the fastest doesn’t mean it’s a good towing truck. Stability is a huge factor, it the vehicle can’t handle the weight and is fighting to stay in its lane that’s simply not safe and frankly not acceptable from a major brand.
Through the Years, I've own all three brands and really cant complain much on any of them.. But my 06 3500 Dually Ram, was my fav... miss that truck...
Love this test! For me, the most important test would be how many times the truck is in the shop for repairs over a 5 yr period.
Well, if you have a Dodge, the answer is Many!
Ford wouldn't make it pass 2,000 miles before it leaves you on the side of the road!
Buy a tundra no break downs
@@kingdaniel3519 What about the GMC?
If I were in the market for a new truck and a Ford was absolutely off the table, a Sierra or Titan would be my second choice.
Ram mpg was not reset when starting up the hill - @13:40 it shows average of 6.8mpg as the run begins, drops to 4.7 under full acceleration and then never changes going up the grade. At this same point the GMC shows -.- avg mpg which then climbs to 3.8. The Ford shows 0 mpg at this point
we know the Ram gets the worst mileage anyway...that computer is simply the most optimistic when it comes to fuel economy (obviously not real optimism, just human programmers adding favorable error) relying on the computers gets them a Click and Clack BO OH OH OH OH GUS from me
They really need to do a fill up after this test and calculate manually. The computer is almost always off to some degree... When I had my 2014 RAM it was off by as much as 4 mpg at times. My 2017 Silverado has been off as much as 2.5 mpg.
You are exactly right and I also pointed this out.
It was actually reset because if you look at the timer on the bottom you can see that it reset.
@@madbnm12 Not sure about the RAM, but usually you reset the trip distance, time, and mpg individually
I find it strange that we hear so much about the Ram's 12" screen on its upper level trims but rarely hear anyone talk about GMs available HUD or rearview mirror screen. I would gladly trade 4" of center nav screen for an HUD. I know this GMC may not have been equipped with HUD or the rearview mirror but IMO these features are worth a mention.
Other then that it was a good video with all three trucks being pretty much equal. I enjoy your channel and keep up the good work.
Perfect Video to fast forward to the end.
Great video guys. Thank you for all the hard work that goes into these informative videos with excellent production quality. I agree with the Ram being top dog. They really have a winner with this new truck. I think the 3.5 Ecoboost and 10 speed is the best powertrain out of the three, but with this iteration of F150 being from 2015, it's expected for the brand new trucks to best it in other areas. I am pretty disappointed with the new GM offerings. The Silverado is hideous and for being an all new redesign, it sure seems like a mid-cycle refresh. Nothing really makes the truck stand out. The interior is bland, the styling is terrible on the Chevy and okay on the GMC, and the powertrain is just a carry over. The 6.2 is a great motor but you can't get it without spending $60k. The 5.3 suck in comparison to the Hemi or even the 2.7 Ecoboost in the Ford. I am a big Ford guy, but if I were in the market for a truck, I think the Ram would be in the driveway.
Having owned an 2016 Ram Rebel with the air ride I can say that, when it works right, it's nice. Key being works right. I loved the interior of the Rebel but I had may issues with this truck. I have had, and currently own, many F150's and loved all them. I hate that the score comes down to subjective. It was obvious that the older guy already had Rams. The F150 from what I saw, was quicker up the hill and seemed to not kick down as much. That's what I would be rating. I hate trucks that are always kicking in and out of gears, which is why I have an Ecoboost now instead of N/A. They were all nice trucks, but my personal experience would have put Ram on bottom.
You would put ram on the bottom because you’re not very intelligent
Did you run premium gasoline in the GMC with the 6.2? I have heard the 6.2 requires super unleaded. What grade of gas did you use for this test?
You guys do great videos, I’m in the market for a new truck. I live in the Appalachia part of Pennsylvania and I tow about just about every weekend about 7,000-8,000lbs. My 15’ 5.3 Silverado pulls it great but is not happy going up the mountains. Would y’all say the 3.0 duramax flat out performs the gas engines as far as towing especially in mountain areas?
They are all similar, however my experience is that the Doge will rust first, pre-rusted steel.
I don’t know if you were ship at the Chevrolet well. The rusting on the big three for pick up trucks are all equally in the toilet. I’ve seen 10 and 12-year-old Chevy Ford and Dawn trucks that have less rust than some that are only 4 1/2 to 5 years old. I think it’s a crying shame whether it’s the Chinese firm General Motors or Ford motor company or dodge they all have the ability to build them not to rust. Back in 1982 dodge had all of their trucks with galvanized undercarriage I had by 82 Dodge truck for almost 16 approaching 17 years that I drove that truck and it was rust free not even a blister on the bottom of the door sills. And I live in a state that uses 2 inches of salt for every quarter inch of snow. Just remember the auto manufacturers want these vehicles to totally rust out
So before you worship General Motors or worship Ford or those of you that worship Chrysler just remember every one of them has taken measures not to protect the steel. Even one of the best automobiles built that had a 15 year track record of being the best four-door sedan the Toyota Camry. Even the quality control this car in the last 3 to 5 years has dropped drastically. Maybe we need some company that has not been formed yet To build a product the same price with maybe a few less gimmicks but one that will last. There’s absolutely no reason why an automobile cannot last 30 years. Mercedes-Benz did it with her 200 series diesel four-door sedan’s mini of them untouched had pushed 300 to 500,000 miles original engine and transmission’s. Even Mercedes Stop making cars of that extreme quality. It would be nice if someone would get back to building cars the best they could possibly be
Yes, I see the under side of a lot of vehicles and Dodge products seem to be prone to rust faster.
The Ford can't rust aluminum body but if you wreck it will cost a fortune to fix
@@Kramer63 the only problem is the put themselves out of buisness building a car to last that long they dont want to do that its all about making money
William Skibinski I have a 98 ram. not a speck of rust.
Hei:-) What about diesel engines? And what about reliability? Great video:-)
I’d love to work for these guys and help with these tests. Always have loved towing, and I’ve even made this exact run with our camper.
Keep it up ram love your trucks and so glad your the gold hitch awards
This Ram got 4.7 mpg on the trip computer pulling 9100 lbs trailer here but it also got 4.7 mpg towing a 7000 lbs trailer on another Ike run earlier. I find it hard to believe the mpg reading especially with more trailer weight and an extra passenger from the previous TFL video. Skip to 7:22 mark for the info on time and mpg. ua-cam.com/video/vlRoLXQjcSs/v-deo.html
Always like these reviews, thank you TFL - still going with my 3.5L Ford vs. the other two though. Re: I tow REGULARLY through the IKE tunnel. And the biggest thing I hate, is a truck that needs to stay at full throttle and push the engine and systems to the max to keep up. This video only substantiated this - 5000+RPM for both Dodge and Chevy to get up that hill. More specifically and probably more "real world" is the constant ebb and flow of the I-70 IKE pass. Almost always your coming to slow downs and having to get back up to speed on a regular weekend. I appreciate you guys doing this and probably scheduling this on a Tuesday at 10am when no one is on the road so you can showcase the trucks. But this is a MAJOR consideration and should be factored in. Having the F150 with that torque with turbos is huge in comparison in this regard. I routinely pass Chevy/Dodges, etc needing to rev WAY High to get their rig going again - meanwhile I am only at 3500 rpm (or less) and leaving them in the dust. This makes you less of a bottleneck to other drivers and in my opinion safer. Great review, but that would be my feedback.
IM PERPLEXED W FORD'S 3.5TT. I THOUGHT IT WAS BEST FOR TOWING ALSO. ECOBOOST NOT VERY ECONOMICAL. WORST MPG OUT OF 3 AT 3.3! THATS HORRIBLE. THE HEMI GOT THE BEST AT 4.7 MPG EVEN AT HIGHER RPM. IS THE FORD STILL WORTH IT?
@@allanw6103 he won't answer because he's rebuilding his 3.5 EcoBoost the one Factor left out was LONG term reliability and the Ford WILL lose hands down the small engine loses every time, Ford does not have a secret that the big cummins Cat don't know BIGGER engine= reliability Pure physics and science... The Ford was all over the place have to drive it constantly when towing here is a real review of the Fraud (ford) ua-cam.com/video/3g9Y40QSS-U/v-deo.html
here is a real review of the Little Ford ua-cam.com/video/3g9Y40QSS-U/v-deo.html
Trucks are built to be rugged to handle work. They should not break the bank. I assume the average truck buyers purchase a middle of the road truck. Why not test each manufacturer's top selling truck? Would you still choose the same truck if you could only spend 45k?
@@AmericanSurvival001 You're going to ignore the issues with the RAM air ride?
I have a 2012 F-150 with the V6 ecoboost and it runs super hot on this road and other mountain roads forcing me to slow down to 35-40 mph so I don’t overheat. Is this a flaw in the model year???
Nice video for testing Love those Ram trucks and I Have a 2007 Hemi Charger that is awesome to
Great job! But why not the 2018 F150 5.0 10 speed combo????
The big dude has been overly biased on ram forever.
to bad that Ford was so unstable was all over the road imagine 10 year from now how lose it will be towing... = Garbage
Longevity speaking the Ford will win. And I’m a dodge guy by the way.
Scott too bad fords going to last the longest out of both of the others 😂
@@davidmorgan8612 yea, because dual overhead cams and turbos are so reliable.
@@AmericanSurvival001 a 300.00 moride suspension add on and youd be an idiot making that statement.
Is there a fifth wheel or half-ton diesel version of this test?
i absolutely LOVE how the headlights strobe like that.... is it equally as awesome in person!?!?!
wormer66 no thats the led effect when you record them in video
@@parkebailey3990 well WTF !!! I want my headlights to pulse like that.... that should be false advertising...
Why don't you'll ever test the 5.0 F-150 against the other V8s
Because garbage.
Because the v6 is the more powerful motor.
Because the 5.0 is a turd compared to the 3.5 EcoBoost. It's not even close.
@@yeeyee9759 Wrong again.
@@cheezburger6130 f 150 you put to garbage. Not wrong. Truck belong in lake. Truck belong in recycle bin. Cummins..real engine
The Ford should lose 25 points for the engine noise augmentation...and that’s coming from someone who has owned 3 F150’s and still has an ecoboost. Any truck that doesn’t allow permanent shutoff of the start/stop also loses points. I think a lot of guys would agree with me.
Auto start/stop is so useless. Come on Ford. Give us the permanent disable option, otherwise tuning shops will continue to make money while you threaten customers with voiding their warranties.
My 2011 5.0 L F150 Will redline just about anytime I get anywhere near Eisenhower tunnel with about a 4200lb trailer would you have any tips to alleviate that or is there any accessory I can buy to help better that other than an expensive turbo?
Towing includes backing up. The backup assist was not mentioned. My next truck will have it.
You didn’t reset the mpg on the ram on the up hill part of the test
I have nothing against turbo power and I love that engine, but if I have to wiggle up a mountain doing 60mph then I'm choosing a different truck. For me though at 9000lbs I'd feel more comfortable in a 2500...
Thanks for sharing testing of the vehicles. Now I feel better about going and buying a new Dodge Ram.
I will have to wait ten years before any of these trucks are affordable to the essentials like me.
Just wait, when 90% of the people buying shit lose their rigs to the bank youll see the price of used rigs crash. Its hard to pay that $1000+ a month truck note when you lose your stimulus miney
Would be nice if they actually used the technology like downhill assist and the blind spot monitor that Ford has in the FX4. Wish I knew it was a Ram commercial before watching it.
Yeah easy to tell who pads their wallet after every video they do, huh?
What would hill descent control do in a towing review? 🤔
Finally!! The RAM getting some love in all shapes and forms from TFL truck. Well to be fair Nathan has loved RAM for a long time. Congratulations 2019 RAM!!! 👍👍👍👍
Happy New Year👍🍸🍷🍺
These trucks are all optioned for towing capacity. I think it would be interesting to run the same test with a base F-250 just as a comparison. For those who actually need to tow a trailer that size on a regular basis, the ¾ ton class truck might make more sense financially. Not only do you not have to up option the truck, but since the ¾ ton truck would be loafing along it should hold up longer.
Great video guys! Do you think the Ford swayed some because it’s the lightest truck? I have a 16 F150, came from a 2011, and that’s the one thing I noticed over the other truck I had.
The GMC is probably the lightest due to it having a smaller fuel cell.
I had a 12 f150 and now a 17 to me both tow same trailer the same but I felt sort of sway or roll in both from factory. I believe it had to do with tires. The set them from factory with street tires which is fine for people who don’t tow or tow light trailers. I put E rated tires on and anything I felt on either truck went away.
Joe Sainato I have E rated as well and still feel it with the same trailer. I think going to a 5 inch drop ball helped with mine as I have a 2-1/2” lift on mine, so that may have had something to do with it.
Yup I absolutely hate the rear end wiggle, even with airbags and E rated tires.
I've heard of it being fixed with a sway bar in the hiney so I'll try that next.
Similar story here. Moved from a '12 Crew to a '16 Crew (both 3.5 Eco). I noticed the trailer moves the truck around a lot more on the '16. It's still a good towing truck but not quite as good at the old steel body. This is probably why the Super Duty trucks didn't lose any weight when they went aluminium, they just put it in the frame etc keeps the towing manners. If I were to tow lots of weight often I'd look at the SD/HD platform, but since I just tow my job trailer and my boat I can't justify the extra $$$ or gas for the bigger trucks.
One thing I won't complain about is how well the 3.5 pulls, it's pretty amazing.
F150 didn’t go up the hill as forced
That’s a big plus and made it faster
If they were to rate only objectively and not subjectively......Ford still the best truck.
towing up the mountain at 5,400 rpm with the v8 or 3000 rpm with the turbo 6. The turbo 6 just breezes up. This is real world not some sea level test.
They are anti Ford
Guess you did not hear how he said the Ford kinda of wobbled and he to keep constant control of steering .
Turbo helps in mountain heights. I’m curious hoy coyote would do it.
Hey TFl great video can you please make a 100 mile mpg with a 2018 5.3 3.42 loader
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