NEW Skips have changed Mario Bros Wii Speedruns Forever

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2023
  • After 14 years, New Super Mario Bros. Wii speedruns have fallen under 22 minutes thanks to new discoveries and new TAS that has unearthed great potential for the future of the speedrun.
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  • @LunaticJ
    @LunaticJ  10 місяців тому +224

    Watch the TAS: ua-cam.com/video/1DNo4i29scc/v-deo.html

  • @KremBotop
    @KremBotop 10 місяців тому +851

    That ceiling skip is such a neat unintentional throwback to classic world 1-2.

    • @chargles.
      @chargles. 10 місяців тому +17

      that was my first thought!

    • @Vent_YT
      @Vent_YT 10 місяців тому

      @@chargles.same

    • @LeaPar4
      @LeaPar4 10 місяців тому +1

      Isnt that 1-3 with the yoshis?

    • @KatherynneF
      @KatherynneF 10 місяців тому +10

      @@LeaPar4 by 1-2 they're referring to the underground level in the original SMB, where you could go above the level and find a warp pipe to skip worlds. Just about every super mario game has referenced this with a secret exit at the end or otherwise.

    • @LeaPar4
      @LeaPar4 10 місяців тому

      @@KatherynneF ohh ok

  • @c-domination
    @c-domination 10 місяців тому +1128

    I have a friend who loves penguins and the penguin Mario suit, I'll send her this video immediately.

    • @Squashh_1
      @Squashh_1 10 місяців тому +55

      🐧= Best

    • @HELLO-mx6pt
      @HELLO-mx6pt 10 місяців тому +68

      Marry her. Penguin is supreme

    • @Chubby_Bub
      @Chubby_Bub 10 місяців тому +41

      Penguins were the hidden solution all along, your friend knows more than she is letting on

    • @mikelpelaez
      @mikelpelaez 10 місяців тому +17

      Your friend has good taste

    • @shoopydoopy6062
      @shoopydoopy6062 10 місяців тому +11

      Your friend has good taste

  • @alexdacat7052
    @alexdacat7052 10 місяців тому +41

    the penguin suit stays ON during the speedrun.

  • @springdude1165
    @springdude1165 10 місяців тому +89

    The whole bit with the rotating pipe being capped off with "That is... until Penguin Mario came to town." Is just very comical to me for some reason.

  • @DawnSRC
    @DawnSRC 10 місяців тому +173

    Great video! Loved opening up with the Salt video to show how big a deal this really was considering the 21 seemed so far away at the time. Also incredible TAS! Will definitely be checking that out now.

  • @CadsSR
    @CadsSR 10 місяців тому +117

    Thank you for covering this game's largest any% discovery in years!

  • @ZTimeGamingYT
    @ZTimeGamingYT 10 місяців тому +376

    We've broken another minute barrier, gamers! Going above the ceiling seems familiar, yet completely new! I was also not expecting the Penguin Suit to be used this well in the route!

    • @coreyyohm
      @coreyyohm 10 місяців тому +8

      we’ve?? nah….. they’ve 👑

    • @vidartornqvist7138
      @vidartornqvist7138 10 місяців тому

      gamers! ☠☠

    • @leonro
      @leonro 10 місяців тому +2

      I was actually perplexed when I found out that NSMBW TASes used the propeller mushroom instead of the penguin suit, given the latter's speed potential.

    • @Clearical_
      @Clearical_ 9 місяців тому

      @@leonrohow? The propeller helped with bombful,double bombless,and most of the jungle which saves 40-50 as the jungle bridge skip is huge but now we know a infinitely wall jump double bombless 20secs saves can be used with a penguin

    • @leonro
      @leonro 9 місяців тому

      @@Clearical_ penguin goes fast, propeller isn't particularly useful outside of a few levels and the item house at the beginning is accessible enough to give you penguin even if the route has to be repeated

  • @maccross4567
    @maccross4567 10 місяців тому +21

    I'm mostly just shocked that someone managed to enter the pipe in 8-airship early, that was the highlight for me!

  • @NightW3VL
    @NightW3VL 9 місяців тому +3

    Those new tricks are so mesmerizing to watch. The parts when Mario is just FLYING through the stage with the ice flower and penguin suit is crazy!

  • @Squashh_1
    @Squashh_1 10 місяців тому +9

    These guys must be crazy 😮

  • @diodebridge
    @diodebridge 10 місяців тому +22

    Fantastic video! I love hearing technical breakdowns of a TAS. This might be the most exciting TAS improvement to come out in awhile!

  • @PidgeySR
    @PidgeySR 10 місяців тому +27

    really awesome video lunatic, thanks for covering this🎉🎉🎉

    • @ajl4878
      @ajl4878 10 місяців тому +1

      q

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  10 місяців тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Oceane1803
    @Oceane1803 10 місяців тому +3

    I stumbled upon this video and really liked it so I then proceeded to binge watch all of your videos.
    The way you speak really shows how interesting the topic is and makes you want to know more.

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  10 місяців тому

      This means a lot to hear. Thank you

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 10 місяців тому

      @@LunaticJ No problem ^^ And yet I don't know if I managed to find the right words to express how interesting it was ^^'

  • @SeedyZ
    @SeedyZ 10 місяців тому +8

    Great video! I love hearing about games getting new discoveries like this even after so much time.

  • @HappyLeeHL
    @HappyLeeHL 10 місяців тому +7

    Great video. Thanks for your very precise introduction about TAS. :D

  • @Sandersala123
    @Sandersala123 10 місяців тому +10

    this is crazy! never thought there was this much yet to be discovered in the game

  • @chaffyaxeisback193
    @chaffyaxeisback193 10 місяців тому +56

    I loved playing this game when I was just a child, me and my older brother would play for hours.

  • @IncoisaRadio87
    @IncoisaRadio87 10 місяців тому +3

    Speedrunning really creates such an increased lifespan for any game, creating new discoveries even 14 years after every last intended secret nook and cranny has been discovered.

  • @andrewww13
    @andrewww13 10 місяців тому +2

    I just watched the summoning salt video two days ago this is very good timing

  • @sanga1380
    @sanga1380 10 місяців тому +2

    This is why the ice flower and penguin suit are not allowed in Mario maker:

  • @Chompo
    @Chompo 10 місяців тому +1

    Damn amazing quality, love wathcing these speedrun related vids. Subbed

  • @trashpanda9160
    @trashpanda9160 10 місяців тому +1

    I love how at exactly 4:20 you talked the limitations of human anatomy.

  • @graham7784
    @graham7784 10 місяців тому +16

    I understand why this took so long to find. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a tough game. Old school tough

    • @hundredLeech
      @hundredLeech 10 місяців тому

      Some might say it tests even the most seasoned platforming veterans

  • @NotK41
    @NotK41 10 місяців тому +3

    seeing this game i loved as a kid get absolutely pushed to the limit with these awesome speedrun tricks is mind blowing

  • @sage5296
    @sage5296 10 місяців тому +1

    I saw the new tas a while ago, and when I saw the above the castle, I was just like "oh wow I haven't seen that before, neat!", didn't realize that was the first time it was ever revealed! wow

  • @sharpruns_
    @sharpruns_ 10 місяців тому +8

    Nice video g

    • @Slasheryt
      @Slasheryt 10 місяців тому

      yo g

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  10 місяців тому +1

      Congrats on wurl rekky

    • @RedsMSR
      @RedsMSR 10 місяців тому +2

      #sharpforlife

    • @Slasheryt
      @Slasheryt 10 місяців тому

      @@RedsMSR facts g

    • @BigCheeseSR
      @BigCheeseSR 10 місяців тому

      #sharpforlife

  • @bigtimeYTguy
    @bigtimeYTguy 10 місяців тому +1

    I remember going to my friend's house on the weekends in kindergarten to play this game with him. It's awesome seeing new discoveries!

  • @Waysterself
    @Waysterself 10 місяців тому +3

    “But there’s a twist, I mean literally, it’s twisting, or rather rotating, along with three other pipes” 🤓

  • @MapleFuyu
    @MapleFuyu 10 місяців тому +1

    I have watched this TAS video since it's published. Really amazing. I also hope someday I can challenge this speedrun in SRC but they banned emulators.

  • @Irreve-rsible
    @Irreve-rsible 10 місяців тому +1

    Fascinating TAS! I am not very familar with NSMB Wii speedrunning, so seeing some of these advanced penguin suit movements, and advanced infinite walljumping is interesting nontheless.

  • @undefinederror5306
    @undefinederror5306 15 днів тому

    I remember discovering the ceiling skip when i was in 3rd-5th grade. Glad more people are discovering this.

  • @lucas-gk9yt
    @lucas-gk9yt 10 місяців тому +3

    This was the first game I ever played. Seeing it being so optimized brings me joy

  • @ForgedDynamix
    @ForgedDynamix 10 місяців тому

    5:05 Mario straight up clipped into the spikey green ball

  • @godfist314
    @godfist314 9 місяців тому +1

    Walk like a Pengiun? That's Very Slow. Run like a Penguin in a Mario Bros Wii TAS? That's HYPER FAST! 😂

  • @Haj46
    @Haj46 10 місяців тому

    I waited so long for a video about the new strats. It's so great that you made such a god tier video about it! ❤

  • @distortion1553
    @distortion1553 10 місяців тому +1

    Now that I think about it
    this was probably intentional
    throwback to the first mario game

  • @glitchy_weasel
    @glitchy_weasel 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely crazy TAS and WR!

  • @jjzk1ller963
    @jjzk1ller963 10 місяців тому

    I'm so glad my attention has been brought to this great discovering both👏

  • @xx_g4m3rsw4g_xx
    @xx_g4m3rsw4g_xx 10 місяців тому

    0:49 IT'S BEEN 14 YEARS

  • @ajl4878
    @ajl4878 10 місяців тому +15

    Really awesome video! The NSMB speedrunning community thanks you!

  • @Leverclicker
    @Leverclicker 10 місяців тому +1

    I always knew one day sub 22 speedruns could happen, and it finally happened. but what I didn't expect is the insane ways people find JUST to save time

  • @EveCitrus
    @EveCitrus 10 місяців тому

    just wanna say that little bit of editing at around 1:21 goes hard as fuck. Great editing on the beat there :D

  • @wxcvbndu51
    @wxcvbndu51 10 місяців тому +2

    At first, I clicked on this video fearing the clickbait and the run not actually being changed a lot
    Turns out it wasn't clickbait, the TAS is incredibly different now, nice

  • @victorcarrera7025
    @victorcarrera7025 10 місяців тому

    This is amazing, it has changed completely the speedrun

  • @huyphan7825
    @huyphan7825 3 місяці тому

    Mario to Sonic: "Look at me. I am the super speedy blue furry now."

  • @qq3088
    @qq3088 2 місяці тому

    I always wondered in the TAS why the penguin didn't just run to the pipe, wasting time. Now I understand it saved way more time than the previous WR

  • @Hucklefart_Dinklejartin
    @Hucklefart_Dinklejartin 10 місяців тому

    I really love how this game still has content and mods being made on it

  • @JustCallMePaper
    @JustCallMePaper 9 місяців тому

    Love the Thousand year door music.

  • @dustabeatbox571
    @dustabeatbox571 10 місяців тому +1

    What is the name of the epic soundtrack at the back while you was explaining the pipe pace ?

  • @Brothe1383Oficial
    @Brothe1383Oficial 10 місяців тому

    OMG THE FUNNY "AND JUST LIKE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS IN REMISS" SONG AT THE START

  • @animeluigiboy
    @animeluigiboy 10 місяців тому +1

    As someone who adored this game as a kid and even today, I’m still shocked people still speedrun this masterpiece and find some new and cool things to make the runs more interesting and more impressive.

  • @WASD_ii
    @WASD_ii 10 місяців тому +1

    11:15 that song sounds like it's from the legendary starfy? if it's not from there where is it from?

  • @BrianM_3rd
    @BrianM_3rd 10 місяців тому +2

    I don't know if I missed it in the video, but I don't think I got quite _how_ nobody thought to try this until now, or why it might be difficult. He said there was a barrier further along the castle, but what was preventing anyone from doing it at the start all this time? Pretty wild for a literally 40 year old trick haha. Oldies but goodies.

    • @doppss_
      @doppss_ 10 місяців тому

      guiding that fireball to get the 1 block gap wouldve been the hardest part to discover

  • @The23rdGamer
    @The23rdGamer 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @jaxvr
    @jaxvr 9 місяців тому

    The beauty of speedrunning

  • @tayway210
    @tayway210 2 місяці тому

    How did I not know about this sooner?!

  • @eugenekrabs141
    @eugenekrabs141 10 місяців тому +2

    i have always said nomatter how unrealistic a goal may seem in speedrunning it will be done at some point

  • @SeedyZ
    @SeedyZ 9 місяців тому

    I just noticed the transparency background on the thumbnail. Is that new? That's really clever

  • @lunarjump
    @lunarjump 10 місяців тому +1

    Another absolute banger 🔥

  • @Super_star_remix
    @Super_star_remix 10 місяців тому +1

    I rember seeing this tas

  • @Wingman143
    @Wingman143 10 місяців тому +1

    What is the song at the end of the video? It's beautiful

  • @TGVBT640
    @TGVBT640 10 місяців тому

    nah that’s just penguin mario using 0.1% of his power

  • @General12th
    @General12th 10 місяців тому +1

    Videos like this are so amazing.

  • @Quilxvx
    @Quilxvx 10 місяців тому

    NSMB wii has such good theme design, like the massive stone walls with lava and the fire holders

  • @RoseQuartz692
    @RoseQuartz692 10 місяців тому +1

    This is just unbelievable

  • @SMO_Boi
    @SMO_Boi 10 місяців тому +7

    Q: does the tas you use left and right on the same frame? Idk if it would give an advantage or not.

    • @MGRoadkill
      @MGRoadkill 10 місяців тому +14

      There is no benefit to left + right in nsmbw, so it is not used.

    • @SMO_Boi
      @SMO_Boi 10 місяців тому

      @@MGRoadkill ok thanks for sharing!

  • @cam9998
    @cam9998 10 місяців тому

    That ice flower trick with climbing one way was probably inspired by the one in mario maker

  • @user-qh3nq8np5i
    @user-qh3nq8np5i 9 місяців тому

    i didn't even know there are skips in this amazing game!!!!

  • @marcushelbling
    @marcushelbling 10 місяців тому +4

    I wish I was mario, then people would think I'm cool

  • @snor7411
    @snor7411 10 місяців тому

    Out of all the ideas, they went into Power Up Panels, used the Penguin Suit, and even optimized the STAR. crazy!

  • @SPY-ce8qf
    @SPY-ce8qf 10 місяців тому +2

    I always thought it’s strange when TASs are similar to regular play. I feel like TASs will end up looking crazy and different.

    • @BaconNuke
      @BaconNuke 10 місяців тому +1

      Well remember, humans made the route that the TAS executes, so they are just making it do what they already can do, just better.. trying to think of theoretical runs that involve things that humans aren't even close to doing is hard to conceptualize for runners since they don't have a basis to start from, it's like if the BLJ was TAS exclusive, how long would it take for it to be discovered if humans didn't even know it was possible for a non-human to execute something they themselves cannot do?

    • @Irreve-rsible
      @Irreve-rsible 10 місяців тому +1

      Super Mario Bros. is about the same to be honest.
      Majority of the techniques done are TAS techniques, and (seemingly) impossible TAS techniques are now standardized in runs.
      It depends on the game to be honest, as the above states its just perfecting the already known formula.

  • @ivanarana3478
    @ivanarana3478 10 місяців тому

    Honey wake up, new SummoningSalt Lore just dropped

  • @driesvanheeswijk1633
    @driesvanheeswijk1633 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing video
    I don't even watch SMBW speedruns

  • @davlynch2545
    @davlynch2545 22 дні тому

    Above the Castle was discovered on my 14th birthday!

  • @karimalaili6109
    @karimalaili6109 10 місяців тому +3

    Wait until Mayro hears about this.

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  10 місяців тому +2

      She's a friend of mine and she saw the TAS when it premiered, which is how I first heard about it

    • @karimalaili6109
      @karimalaili6109 10 місяців тому

      @@LunaticJ noice

  • @GunSpyEnthusiast
    @GunSpyEnthusiast 10 місяців тому

    the way that the TAS saved over a minute of time with the penguin suit, which was never even considered, reminds me of how often in games, the "meta " is typically not even the best choice.
    seriously, in most competitive games, the best choice isn't the best if you followed someone Elses advice instead of applying your own game logic to decide what is best for you to use.
    for instance,
    TF2 : pre jungle inferno.
    every spy was using the ambassador because it had headshot damage, even though its damage penalty and slower firing speed made its real DPS with 100% headshots only slightly better then no headshots with the stock revolver.
    TF2 : post jungle inferno.
    the spies were no longer using the ambassador, even though the only nerf was its long-range damage, and its Damage up close was what mattered 9 times out of 10.
    COD mobile :
    i played a tournament the day i installed because my friend wanted to play with me on it, i equipped a shotgun instead of what is typically meta in cod games simply because i wanted to use a shotgun.
    i got 2nd in that tournament.

  • @josephlehan1777
    @josephlehan1777 10 місяців тому

    6:40 probably not important for speedrunning, but you can have more than 2 Ice balls. After the 2nd is thrown there's a long timer until a 3rd can be thrown, but can be done in certain situations

  • @MARIO-de9ew
    @MARIO-de9ew 10 місяців тому

    had no idea skips even existed in this game

  • @jbosco62
    @jbosco62 4 місяці тому

    How feasible are the tricks shown in this TAS with the ice flower and penguin suit? Are there runners who are already implementing them their runs?

  • @SinisterPixel
    @SinisterPixel 10 місяців тому

    Everyone is hyping ceiling skip but that pipe skip on the airship is just *chefs kiss*

  • @aquarius8242
    @aquarius8242 10 місяців тому

    “I’m inside-a your walls, Bowser!”

  • @nicholasjones8309
    @nicholasjones8309 10 місяців тому +4

    I was surprised to see them go in a mushroom house lmao, really cool video! Do you think people might try for ice flower/penguin IL runs? (idk if they do those in this game)

    • @MGRoadkill
      @MGRoadkill 10 місяців тому +2

      Several years ago, the nsmbw IL leaderboards were filled with propeller, just like the full game boards. But as time has progressed, the Penguin suit has been implemented into the vast majority of IL runs (everything except for towers and a couple stray others).

    • @nicholasjones8309
      @nicholasjones8309 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MGRoadkill cool, thanks for the reply! Nice work on the TAS

  • @paw9968
    @paw9968 10 місяців тому

    lore accurate mario

  • @picklemandillinbergs
    @picklemandillinbergs 10 місяців тому

    ive tried to get over there as a joke but I had no idea that it was possible

  • @notanguished
    @notanguished 10 місяців тому

    mario bros wii was my first game ever, is you showed 8 year old me this TAS speedrun, my mind would've exploded

  • @KZA_
    @KZA_ 10 місяців тому

    this is awesome

  • @plaguedup
    @plaguedup 10 місяців тому

    Yo I thought this was a summoning salt vid for the entire duration of me watching it

  • @BigCheeseSR
    @BigCheeseSR 10 місяців тому +2

    Very cool video

  • @jamesshroogle6331
    @jamesshroogle6331 10 місяців тому

    I find it more impressive how that insane TAS only saves 1 minute. Seems crazy to me how good the actual players on the leaderboard must be...

  • @Magnum69
    @Magnum69 10 місяців тому +1

    this is SO FUCKING COOL

  • @chanceForNotBeingRapper
    @chanceForNotBeingRapper 10 місяців тому

    bro had similar voice of Summoning Salt, amazing

  • @odog98
    @odog98 10 місяців тому +1

    How did nobody find ATC before 2023?!

  • @blueswitchpalace
    @blueswitchpalace 10 місяців тому

    Suddenly, the Penguin route is performed humanly.

  • @swimmyding
    @swimmyding 10 місяців тому +2

    cool vid but the strat is called the meal not atc

  • @PretzelBS
    @PretzelBS 10 місяців тому +1

    I was watching the tas before and I thought it was a gimmick run. Little did I know they were giga brain

  • @Pixiuchu
    @Pixiuchu 10 місяців тому

    I checked the TAS after 4 minutes of this video, but somehow hearing about first cycle skip in MM shocks me even more. What the fuck thats actually a thing now? holy damn

  • @Cartoon64
    @Cartoon64 10 місяців тому

    something very sad is that my NSMB wii disc has a mark and it breaks once i enter an area

  • @XenoviaSR
    @XenoviaSR 10 місяців тому +1

    great video

  • @kirbomatic1573
    @kirbomatic1573 10 місяців тому +1

    they finally got in the pipe before it rotated away