Ocarina of Time's Unluckiest Speedrun Trick

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
  • The Zelda: Ocarina of Time any% speedrun changed forever in 2015, following the discovery of Get Item Manipulation (GIM). It was a terrible luck dependent glitch that scared many runners and viewers away. This is how speedrunners conquered terrible RNG and saved any%.
    TWITCH: / lunaticj
    TWITTER: / lunaticjtv
    DISCORD: / discord
    Special Thanks to ‪@Txrje‬ for reviewing my script and research
    Ocarina of Time Speedrunning community: / discord
    #zelda #speedrun #ocarinaoftime

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  • @LunaticJ
    @LunaticJ  Рік тому +58

    Soundtracks used in the video:
    0:00 Title Theme - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    0:50 Hyrule Castle Tower - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    1:32 Secret of the Forest - Chrono Trigger
    3:26 The Wind is Blowing at Cavi Cape - Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story
    5:13 Rogueport Sewers - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
    6:22 Shop - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    7:25 Full Steam Ahead [Spirit Tracks] - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    8:58 Luigi’s Theme - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
    9:28 The Great Plateau - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
    11:28 Castle - New Super Mario Bros. Wii
    12:30 Mage Duel - Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories
    14:26 Leaping Off the Edge - The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
    15:07 Hilda’s Theme 1 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
    17:38 Ingo - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
    19:04 Online Waiting Room - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    19:50 The Great Sea - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
    21:28 Grasslands All the Way! - Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story
    24:03 Excess Express at Dusk - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

    • @thatcraftyone3787
      @thatcraftyone3787 Рік тому

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    • @indecision999
      @indecision999 Рік тому

      paper mario ❤

  • @dannyb21892
    @dannyb21892 Рік тому +809

    The extra funny thing is that nowadays Any% is under 4 minutes long and is coincidentally at an ~86% fail rate for the RNG needed to have a chance at world record.

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +105

      KEKW

    • @lkjkhfggd
      @lkjkhfggd Рік тому +125

      It's also way less cool to watch. Link just runs around kokiri forest doing random shit until suddenly the game's over.

    • @dannyb21892
      @dannyb21892 Рік тому +142

      @@lkjkhfggd it's very much not a spectator friendly category, beyond the initial shock of seeing it done. But it's really incredible from the game science perspective, and that's where it's merit really lies in terms of being able to appreciate it

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Рік тому +26

      ​@@lkjkhfggdtbh i dont get why anyone watches speedruns anyway like its cool theyvexist, the science behind some glitches is interesting but watching ppl do something over and over and over and over and over and over is boring no matter what it is

    • @lkjkhfggd
      @lkjkhfggd Рік тому +67

      @@leaffinite2001 well, I don't get why anybody watches anybody live streaming video games at all. I like to see speed runs on UA-cam, where they've uploaded their best run.
      If you played the video game as a kid and it took like 30 hours to beat, seeing someone beat it in 1 hour is mind blowing.

  • @LendriMujina
    @LendriMujina 8 місяців тому +13

    Using Yu-Gi-Oh: Forbidden Memories music during the explanation of how unforgiving the RNG is was a *brilliant* choice.

  • @namelesslang5909
    @namelesslang5909 6 місяців тому +11

    Fun fact, this glitch started a new issue for the OOT speedruns while resolving a previous issue at the same time, as the GIM glitch was responsible for the eventual fade in popularity of the iQue (a rare chinese-only nintendo system that many were opposed to, citing it as an unhealthy limitation to the category due to the difficulty picking one up) as a preferred device to speedrun on.

    • @lydiazap7243
      @lydiazap7243 4 місяці тому

      this is fascinating, thank you

  • @TheGlitched64
    @TheGlitched64 10 місяців тому +94

    Must of been so stressful having the trick fail again and again in front of a massive crowd like that, them clapping along and cheering when it was successful was really cool, even though it wasn't fast the crowd got really into it, awesome to see.

    • @FatalHog
      @FatalHog Місяць тому +1

      Definitely understandable why he walked away from the category after that, would hate for a games luck to actively make you look bad

  • @onlysmiles4949
    @onlysmiles4949 Рік тому +374

    That GDQ run has got to be heartbreaking
    I can't imagine being in that position knowing the game is cursing you with the worst possible RNG in front of thousands of people...

    • @JacktheRah
      @JacktheRah Рік тому +52

      I do love how much support he got though. Really nice to see!

    • @DoctorDocMD
      @DoctorDocMD 10 місяців тому +4

      Well the worst possible RNG would be if he kept trying that for the rest of Eternity without getting a single Deku nut, so when you think about it he was really lucky :)

    • @silasnebulous4533
      @silasnebulous4533 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DoctorDocMD1 in 5K unlucky.

    • @vinnyandlin8510
      @vinnyandlin8510 9 місяців тому +1

      Rnjesus is real

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much Рік тому +35

    that gdq clip is painful, oh my god

  • @mrtoxicwasteland
    @mrtoxicwasteland Рік тому +8

    This is the content I open UA-cam weakly, hourly, thirsty, deprived, hungry for

  • @dawne2780
    @dawne2780 Рік тому +61

    I love these speedrun documentaries XD they're incredible.

  • @Txrje
    @Txrje Рік тому +103

    I love how GIM is such a hard trick but it's 100% consistent in terms of RNG. The Defeat Ganon No SRM route that does GIM twice now is some of the highest skill expression in Ocarina of Time ever

  • @ScrambledAndBenedict
    @ScrambledAndBenedict 9 місяців тому +5

    Imagine being the king of evil in your ultimate form, and getting your ass kicked by a 6 year old with a knife and a stick lmfao

  • @austininatx
    @austininatx Рік тому +13

    I started following OoT shortly before all this, good memories. I used to hang out in Joden and then Skater streams. I remember an old skater stream that could make a cool random glitch video. He’s in forest temple climbing up the well vines and unequips iron boots a frame before emerging from the water. Boom, antigravity glitch and link is sidehop flying around. This was especially cool before srm completely broke everything. Plus it was super simple and even I could do it first try

  • @billymays614
    @billymays614 Рік тому +27

    I flipping love your videos man! You and Pesky Plays are like the only channels keeping Oot alive

  • @Adol3
    @Adol3 Рік тому +93

    Despite the GDQ run being so unlucky, that was the hypest GDQ has ever been. We'll likely never see that level of energy again at a speedrun event.

  • @ZEUSfeedZ
    @ZEUSfeedZ Рік тому +45

    criminally low amount of subs for the effort going into these videos

    • @The-Wock
      @The-Wock Рік тому +1

      I think with a lil more of a consistent upload schedule he would crush the speedrunning games niche

    • @hx7004
      @hx7004 Рік тому +1

      I 2nd this

  • @mightyfetheredone
    @mightyfetheredone Рік тому +8

    Thanks for making such a crazy glitch easy to understand! Great video! 🤙🏼

  • @fayescarlet
    @fayescarlet Рік тому +5

    The world of speedrunning is as astounding as ever. These documentaries are the bomb!

  • @Azenatrail
    @Azenatrail 9 місяців тому +1

    And six months later a whole new route has been found.

  • @MrIcenice44
    @MrIcenice44 Рік тому +4

    I could watch speedrun explanations and retrospectives all day sometimes

  • @jordanthejq12
    @jordanthejq12 Рік тому +30

    Hot take, but that GDQ disaster is entirely the organizers' fault. That run should not have been accepted.
    An 85% failure rate that will kill a run is the furthest thing from marathon safe.

    • @Kalobi
      @Kalobi Рік тому +20

      I mean, with a 20-30 second retry time, it's not *that* bad for a marathon run on paper. There's a ~50% chance of getting it within 4 tries.

  • @Druncle_Titus
    @Druncle_Titus Рік тому +14

    Great video, glad GIM is so much better now lol

  • @bradford9086
    @bradford9086 Рік тому +8

    Mad creepypasta vibes at 3:38.

  • @moonstars6003
    @moonstars6003 Рік тому +81

    I hope the people who did this speed run didn’t go nuts while playing it lol

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +47

      But they wanted to get the nuts, and went nuts when they didn’t get nuts

    • @moonstars6003
      @moonstars6003 Рік тому +4

      @@LunaticJ lol 😂

    • @F-Lambda
      @F-Lambda Рік тому +6

      ​@@LunaticJno matter what happened, the result was nuts!

    • @nugboy420
      @nugboy420 Рік тому

      That’s double nuts.

    • @lambybunny7173
      @lambybunny7173 10 місяців тому +2

      @@nugboy420which only has a 1.5625% chance of happening

  • @Jelster64
    @Jelster64 Рік тому +4

    Just now discovered this, thanks for the excellent video. I have a lot of affinity and nostalgia for this era.

  • @eviecrimson
    @eviecrimson Рік тому +8

    the reason that theyre gohma larva is cuz their deku nuts didnt drop

  • @silverreaps6803
    @silverreaps6803 Рік тому +3

    so crazy that when the crowd started clapping Joden got crazy luck

  • @FlyinRaptorJesus
    @FlyinRaptorJesus 9 місяців тому +1

    And now you don't even have to enter deku tree for defeat Gannon lol

  • @DivineLight661
    @DivineLight661 Рік тому +3

    been a while since i've watched such a high quality ocarina of time video, liked and subbed :)

  • @wompastompa3692
    @wompastompa3692 10 місяців тому

    That one GDQ that featured this trick with Skater and Cosmo was a ROUGH watch. I forget if Joden was also there.

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 Рік тому +2

    It’s crazy that 20 yr old+ games are having new glitches found in them every day.

  • @Gamingwithahandicap
    @Gamingwithahandicap Рік тому +11

    J you should do a video on Tak and the Power of Juju speed runs! It’s a 3D platformer on GameCube with a small but awesome speedrun scene! Love your videos! :)

  • @philiphunt-bull5817
    @philiphunt-bull5817 Рік тому +3

    I love the Bowser's inside story soundtrack!

  • @therealLoydna
    @therealLoydna Рік тому +1

    Just sayin, any time I hear Chrono Trigger music, I pay attention. Good inclusion, man. Great video, good hook, and solid info. Learned some new things on this video. Subbed

  • @SparkleLynn2113
    @SparkleLynn2113 10 місяців тому +1

    >shows the crowd going absolutely nuts
    "It got a lukewarm reception"
    Idk about that

  • @ckruberducky
    @ckruberducky 10 місяців тому

    Dang what a trip to see druncle on a video like this. I used to watch him like 5 to 6 years ago haha. I learned Kak wess with him lol

  • @batlrar
    @batlrar 10 місяців тому +2

    Wait, why can't bottle duplication be used to get a second bottle in this case? That would definitely allow for two bottles, and it's a very easy glitch to do, even for casual players.

  • @powwowken2760
    @powwowken2760 Рік тому +5

    The GDQ run could've been worse...
    It could be watching someone messing up a Windwaker pause buffer multiple times...
    You couldn't pay me to watch another Windwaker speedrun after suffering through that.

    • @TheAverageGamer1
      @TheAverageGamer1 10 місяців тому +1

      Remember when that halo 2 runner who faked all his runs tried to run through halo 2 and failed in front of EVERYONE😂😂😂😂

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch 10 місяців тому

    Ok the catharsis of when the Nut Drops is a massive mood

  • @JerryBeansMan
    @JerryBeansMan Рік тому +9

    Great vid!! Loving the BGM choices, too--Ocarina of Time, BoTW, Chrono Trigger... and is that the Mage Duel theme from Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories at 12:30?!

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +4

      I do be farmin’ Meadow Mage until I get that MBD

    • @VermillionMonk
      @VermillionMonk Рік тому

      ​@@LunaticJNow that's a blast from the past

  • @InsaneFirebat
    @InsaneFirebat 10 місяців тому

    Well now I wish I'd seen that GDQ run already. I'm a fan of hilariously bad RNG moments.

  • @marksmithwas12
    @marksmithwas12 10 місяців тому

    I can't believe I've never heard of this trick before, wow

  • @KanaevM
    @KanaevM Рік тому +3

    Maipulation.

  • @Practicalinvestments
    @Practicalinvestments 8 місяців тому

    ‘85% Fail Rate’ same fail rate as my math class 🤣🥲😫😭

  • @cuddlequeen3225
    @cuddlequeen3225 Рік тому +1

    0:00 in a galaxy far, far away.

  • @nedcurfman3486
    @nedcurfman3486 Рік тому +2

    Always love LunaticJ content!
    Side note- if you’re able, can you give some insight as to what’s up with the Lowest Percent channel? It’s been dormant for over half a year.

  • @pikXpixelart
    @pikXpixelart Рік тому

    Always love a new LunaticJ video!

  • @oronthemoron
    @oronthemoron Рік тому +4

    lets go bingo!! 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 💪💪💪🔥🔥

  • @jacksonmiyamoto3347
    @jacksonmiyamoto3347 Рік тому +2

    Keep up the awesome videos man! I don’t do any speed running my self besides a 16 star run for SM64, but I don’t do it very fast😂 but all of these videos are so interesting and entertaining to watch! Love the videos!

  • @disfiguringthegoddess1102
    @disfiguringthegoddess1102 Рік тому +4

    the main thing that pissed me off about the gdq run was people domated for a name, and he didn't use it. just using "J." that's when I said fuck him and never watched him again. he cared more about a time then he did the event raiser.

  • @swiceguy2871
    @swiceguy2871 Рік тому +2

    What song is playing at the very end of the video? You might consider putting a credits section for the music used. Could be cool. Anyway great vid with so much catch-up content. New sub incoming

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +2

      I have now made a pinned comment listing every song used in the video

  • @Kaitri
    @Kaitri Рік тому +2

    In 2014 it was still cosmo tho

  • @Local_PensiNumi
    @Local_PensiNumi 10 місяців тому +2

    Every copy of this video is personalized. . .

  • @SUPERFunStick
    @SUPERFunStick Рік тому

    Nut drop, get item manipulation process.. that's a lot of stuff to remember so I like to take short cuts and abbreviate things. Especially with the get item manipulation process. GIMP but nut drop is 2 syllables so I just say nut drop and GIMP... what?

  • @arthilas_
    @arthilas_ 10 місяців тому

    Why did noone take action when the once-so-popular speedrun category started to die because of this glitch? They could have simply banned the glitch from Any%-runs, created a new category on the leaderboard or even allowed the usage of cheats/a modded ROM of the game to ensure a 100% success rate on the RNG-dependant element.

  • @bear_mode
    @bear_mode Рік тому

    your videos are always high quality

  • @S1lv3r1
    @S1lv3r1 Рік тому

    Yes! More OoT! Would LOVE to see a video on OoT Randomizers.

  • @pcanzz
    @pcanzz Рік тому

    Good video man

  • @fastgamer2269
    @fastgamer2269 Рік тому

    Amazing video!

  • @SUPERFunStick
    @SUPERFunStick Рік тому +4

    Those odds are so huge. Would never happen with just a couple people watching but hundreds of thousands of people watching and hoping and cheering...... I'm seriously wondering if quantum luck and the observer effect actually had something to do with the results. That's astounding

  • @TTHStuff
    @TTHStuff Рік тому +2

    please put song credits for the songs used

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +1

      Check the new pinned comment. Thank you for your suggestion!

  • @lnazumaKanon
    @lnazumaKanon Рік тому

    There’s a world of speed running. You guys won’t know about ..
    I’m heavily debating posting gameplay of what I unintentionally ended up speed running as a person who’s ripped gaming in 2010 when my Jiji committed suicide.
    There’s a lot of unrecorded depressed people with insanity syndrome, that got some out right Life after death style situations that end up becoming as but a mental strain as what happens at GDQ2015…
    I’ll be real a lot of people need to post up and story up about the dread personally and virtually that’s gone down in just the weird Times

  • @PhantomHeit
    @PhantomHeit Рік тому

    Cavi Cape music!!

  • @kevinjoserugama3073
    @kevinjoserugama3073 Рік тому

    Does somebody knows the piano music at 11:04 minute mark?

  • @NeutralReacts
    @NeutralReacts Рік тому

    can someone tell me what game the song at 2:25 comes from, im blanking so hard.

    • @diribigal
      @diribigal Рік тому

      Chrono Trigger

    • @SmKnJays
      @SmKnJays 3 місяці тому

      Probably heard it from wiz khalifa- never been pt 2

  • @LethalBubbles
    @LethalBubbles 10 місяців тому

    only the luckiest speed runners get the nut drop

  • @SpectreXS
    @SpectreXS 11 місяців тому

    For me this will go down as one of the worst routes in speedrun history. Any% was quite unwatchable at the time, but historically it's amazing to look at its existence.

    • @TepidBlack
      @TepidBlack 10 місяців тому

      top 3 worst of all time are probably iQue any%, this, and Wii U MM any%, which is hilarious seeing as they’re all either this game or the one other game on the same engine

  • @agent00meme22
    @agent00meme22 11 місяців тому +1

    'narcissa' wright 😆

    • @rappakalja5295
      @rappakalja5295 10 місяців тому +2

      And?

    • @TepidBlack
      @TepidBlack 10 місяців тому +1

      it’s been nearly 10 years get over it already lmao

    • @agent00meme22
      @agent00meme22 10 місяців тому +2

      it could be 10,000 years and still make me laugh.@@TepidBlack

    • @rq3167
      @rq3167 9 місяців тому +1

      “Play pretend with me or else!!!!”😂

  • @tehjamerz
    @tehjamerz Рік тому +1

    20:33 shield a HWHAT

  • @andrewd4438
    @andrewd4438 10 місяців тому

    Ah nuts
    That is all

  • @Mahaveez
    @Mahaveez 10 місяців тому

    1/8 isn't bad for a 5-10 minute turnaround on RNG gate.

  • @Ardamax_
    @Ardamax_ Рік тому

    February Forf, 2015

  • @HeyitsEkim
    @HeyitsEkim Рік тому

    man and i thought modern gim was bad

  • @Druncle_Titus
    @Druncle_Titus Рік тому

    Also obligatory Let’s go Bingo

  • @Kami_Com2
    @Kami_Com2 Рік тому

    you know peper mario 64 speedrun use ocarina of time srm

  • @thewhitefalcon8539
    @thewhitefalcon8539 Рік тому

    Do OoT runners constantly make jokes about nut drops?

  • @yourmimic1184
    @yourmimic1184 9 місяців тому

    omfg i did this so long ago. lmao gamefaq was a G. XD

  • @simpli_A
    @simpli_A Рік тому

    HEY EVERYONE! OoT IS EASIER THAN IT’S EVER BEEN, PERIOD!
    no… no wait… it- it just got harder then ev-
    NEVER MIND IT’S EASIER THAN EVER AGAIN!

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy 9 місяців тому

    I don’t like it when you say “nut drop”

  • @fenryrtheshaman
    @fenryrtheshaman 10 місяців тому

    8 mintue reset for ~25% chance isn't that bad for a speedrun...

  • @kyleGoldstien
    @kyleGoldstien Рік тому

    Music is to loud

  • @Cielesis
    @Cielesis Рік тому

    cool

  • @superjumpbros64
    @superjumpbros64 Рік тому

    Hmmm

  • @General12th
    @General12th Рік тому +1

    hehe
    nut drops

  • @MagnitudeReviews
    @MagnitudeReviews 10 місяців тому

    Any% is just not fun to watch anymore.

  • @IGN_OFFClAL
    @IGN_OFFClAL Рік тому

    I kind of hate any percent of this for a few reasons... but mostly how years of speedrunning glitches and tech just kind of disappear from the game. I hope a no wrong warp category becomes popular one day... for all games

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +1

      No Wrong Warp is a really cool category I wish was more popular. It’s basically 2011 any% but with double GIM to skip the Light Arrow cutscene (longest cutscene in the entire game!)

  • @Carboy45
    @Carboy45 10 місяців тому

    Nope would never do oot speedruns atleast on official Leaderboards I don’t like toxic communities.

  • @keatonkuuuun
    @keatonkuuuun 10 місяців тому

    I feel like it's more fun to watch people beat the game dungeon by dungeon.

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  10 місяців тому +1

      Watch the MST category it’ll be on AGDQ tomorrow night

    • @keatonkuuuun
      @keatonkuuuun 10 місяців тому

      @@LunaticJ nice I don't work tomorrow either.

  • @logankappert3700
    @logankappert3700 4 місяці тому

    Narcissa write LUL

  • @Crowned_Hearts
    @Crowned_Hearts 10 місяців тому

    Wait hold up so This game had TWO GLITCHES that almost killed the speedrunning scene of it???? The wrong warp with the 11th owl statue and this...... Bruv what

  • @Robert_D_Mercer
    @Robert_D_Mercer Рік тому

    Only reason shit like this was super popular was because homies like me had nothing to watch after we came home from the back breaking labor. Glad Ontario is upping the immigration here super hard so I cant complain.

  • @DongKEKong
    @DongKEKong Рік тому +3

    "Narcissa"

  • @REDLINE.FGC1
    @REDLINE.FGC1 Рік тому +1

    First

    • @REDLINE.FGC1
      @REDLINE.FGC1 Рік тому

      ​​@@Cliffordlongheadok, you criminal bot

  • @Cainb23
    @Cainb23 Рік тому +4

    Some advice for speed viewers; If ONE little bad rng section in an entire speedrun makes it unwatchable for you.. you shouldn’t be watching speedruns at all. Cause I got some bad news for you, this isn’t even the top 50 of bad rng sections I’ve seen in speedruns. There’s plenty of runs where you gotta reset for hours before you get a run with good rng. To each their own of course it’s just absurd we’re acting like this is the worst thing to happen to speedrunning… a single low rng chance section….

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Рік тому +3

      I don't think anybody is acting like that...

    • @sammer1097
      @sammer1097 Рік тому +1

      People aren't acting like that. You're the only one overreacting here.
      Putting words in people's mouths just to call them out...

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 Рік тому

    with stuff like this you always have to ask shouldn't we just allow hacking to guarantee things like this. some luck based things are ok like when you need to farm drops of enemies that random drop chance is just time added to the run, but these tricks will be reset for until you get them first try so if everyone anyways only plays past if it is first try why not remove all the other runs before they even get played so that more palyers attempt this

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 Рік тому

      Except that retrying RNG is a part of speedrunning culture basically. You want to change how the whole thing works to make it more viewable for you.
      I think it should be allowed at GDQ though

  • @2DollarGargoyle
    @2DollarGargoyle Рік тому +1

    @bingo

    • @LunaticJ
      @LunaticJ  Рік тому +1

      LET’S GO BINGO (I still need to finish Tears of the Kingdom before I grind bingo. Trust me I want to)

    • @2DollarGargoyle
      @2DollarGargoyle Рік тому

      @@LunaticJ We'll always be here binging away, whenever you're ready :D

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Рік тому

      whats bingo (besides the game old people play)?

  • @matta9215
    @matta9215 Рік тому +3

    imagine the smell in the room there at sgdq. the necromorphs are probably disgusting beyond belief

  • @ifael1
    @ifael1 Рік тому

    What the fuck was that thing named torje??

  • @quintonconoly
    @quintonconoly Рік тому +1

    cool