Quran 65:4 - My personal view

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  • I my opinion, the Quran 65:4 has been misunderstood.
    References:
    Abul A'la al-Maududi: quranx.com/Tafsirs/65.4
    Mohammed Hijab: • The Extreme Consequenc...
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  • @everfreshlove
    @everfreshlove Місяць тому +68

    The Quran is talking about WOMEN (Nisa) who are going through divorce. Not little girls! The key word in Chapter 65:4 is WOMEN. The reason for not having her period is that she is at an early stage of pregnancy. therefore, her waiting period is also three months. This how she will know that she is pregnant. Its also possible that she has health issues because of which she did not have her monthly period; such as stress, poor diet or hormonal disbalance etc. A female/male has to be physically and mentally mature to undertake the marriage contract. This is stated in Chapter 4:6 of the Quran.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому +32

      I agree with you. Makes total sense. Why can’t Maududi see what is so sensible.

    • @MuhammadWaqas-kz4fc
      @MuhammadWaqas-kz4fc Місяць тому

      With all due respect Mudoodi ​sahb didn't give the interpretation you are talking about . He gave the same reasons of delayed menstrual cycle for some biological reasons . You can see it in the Tafseer of this Ayat by Muddodi sahb on Islam 360 application.@@Taimur_Laal

    • @kamranhumayun3536
      @kamranhumayun3536 Місяць тому

      I dont know where people get this "Physically and mentally nature" for nikkah, its opposite to the history, you can perform marriage contract before puberty but not consumation.
      Consumation requirers physical maturity. Never read about mental.

    • @quadirather
      @quadirather Місяць тому +4

      This is crime committed by just after 300 years of prophet s.a.w passed away, now people are awakening masha Allah

    • @5haneOmac
      @5haneOmac Місяць тому +5

      @@Taimur_Laal because his moral lens was stuck in 7th century morals.. you are looking to interpret it from 21st century morals.. the fact of the matter is that our understanding of morals, ethics, human dignity has evolved over time due to study and progress of various fields.. so for example, people from 7th century understood that lying was a bad thing but had no idea of the meaning of consent.. so infact if you asked maududi what his opinion is on a married woman denying his husband sex due to any reason, he would ofcourse have a negative view about it(hadith about angels cursing such women).. this is just an example to illustrate the problem of idealizing 7th century morals

  • @baybars3138
    @baybars3138 Місяць тому +29

    I love the fact that you are owning the Islamic tradition. General view is, non-molvi scholars, intellectuals of Pakistan are less interested in what Islam has to say which is not good. Learning and teaching Islam is everyone learnt Muslim right and responsibility.

  • @A.--.
    @A.--. Місяць тому +15

    You are absolutely correct.
    The verses starts with advise regarding "Nisa" (adult females) so children are automatically excluded.
    Maududi totally WRONG!

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому

      correct 100%

    • @atharbasit9223
      @atharbasit9223 Місяць тому

      Moududi commentary is deluded one, not too intelligent at all.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +1

      @@atharbasit9223
      I have read Moududi almost fully. He made tons of oversights and he also tampered translation of several verses of Quran. He was just another Prototype Moulvi

    • @atharbasit9223
      @atharbasit9223 Місяць тому

      @@abdar-rahman6965 Yes, he was never liked by Indian ulema, he blamed Khalifa Uthman(Razi Allah) for many in-fighting, was quite adament about it as well, he was never interested in spreading islam, more so to some how take the control of 🇵🇰 establishment, was also not very intelligent, hos peers mostly abandoned him his tafasir are not liked in the arabworld at all, and now commentary from arabs wrt Qur'an are being developed, and a ban is enforced in saudi upon his literature, to mention a few, seems he wrote with a bad heart.

    • @A.--.
      @A.--. Місяць тому

      @@atharbasit9223 wow didn't know that a ban was being enforced on his writtings in arab world. Do you have any articale about this?

  • @NiazHJafri
    @NiazHJafri Місяць тому +1

    Always a voice with clarity.
    More & More Power To You Dr. Taimur!!!
    👊🤛🤜✊️

  • @abdulraufsiddiqi3590
    @abdulraufsiddiqi3590 Місяць тому +7

    Dr. Taimur you are right, lots of love !

  • @MuhammadTariq23200
    @MuhammadTariq23200 Місяць тому +11

    According to Javed Ahmed ghamidi
    اصل میں ’وَالِّٰٓیۡٔ لَمْ یَحِضْنَ‘کے الفاظ آئے ہیں۔ ’لَمْ‘ عربی زبان میں نفی جحد کے لیے آتا ہے۔ لہٰذا اِس سے وہ بچیاں مراد نہیں ہو سکتیں جنھیں ابھی حیض آنا شروع نہیں ہوا، بلکہ وہی عورتیں مراد ہوں گی جنھیں حیض کی عمر کو پہنچنے کے باوجود حیض نہیں آیا۔
    Now what is نفی جحد by لم?

    • @Houseofstartup
      @Houseofstartup Місяць тому

      G bilkul Ghamdhi Sahab ka nukta nazr bilkul darust hai

    • @MuhammadTariq23200
      @MuhammadTariq23200 Місяць тому

      اس کا ترجمہ "بانجھ عورتیں" ہونا چاہیے ۔

    • @justsomeone8899
      @justsomeone8899 Місяць тому

      Please write in romanised version

    • @MuhammadTariq23200
      @MuhammadTariq23200 Місяць тому

      @@justsomeone8899
      The actual words are: وَالّٰٓـِٔيْ لَمْ يَحِضْنَ. In the Arabic language, the word لَمۡ is used for total and strong negation ( نفی جحد). Hence the expression cannot connote those girls who have not started to menstruate; it can only connote girls who have not menstruated in spite of reaching the age.
      You can easily learn the concept of نفی جحد by consulting any Arabic grammar Book.

    • @justsomeone8899
      @justsomeone8899 Місяць тому +1

      @@MuhammadTariq23200 Thank you brother

  • @user-ty9lf2uh5h
    @user-ty9lf2uh5h Місяць тому +13

    i am a 12 student of FSC our teachers and guide constantly telling us that little girls(before puberty) can be married, and they have idat, sick of this mentally, i cannot argue with them because when ever i tried on any topic related to islam i have been insulted now i learn to stay quite and act foolish😢

    • @medico5083
      @medico5083 Місяць тому +5

      I understand you! just keep reminding yourself that what you're hearing is redundant and ignorant. Keep exploring and reading everything on your own. People in our society and Muslim society on the whole has very skewed interpretations and understanding of both Islam and worldly reasoning, used only to perpetuate their own sick views.

    • @enigma_88
      @enigma_88 Місяць тому +8

      Apne father k liay un teachers ki before puberty wali bachi ka rishtaa mang lo... Foran concepts clear hojayaingay 😂

    • @alanthomas3208
      @alanthomas3208 Місяць тому +2

      You should start listening to those who have left their religions because of these illogical ideas...
      Harris Sultan is one of them. Just listen to him.
      And keep in mind.
      There are always 3 sides to a Story; Yours, Theirs, and the truth.

    • @tay974
      @tay974 Місяць тому +2

      This your silence will ruin your critical thinking abilities as it did with us..please keep questioning but in polite, respectful and careful way until you get satisfactory responses. Almighty bless and protect you.
      Societies cannot thrive where questioning is prohibited.

    • @ChefbyMistake
      @ChefbyMistake Місяць тому

      You should confront them with science and logic. A small girl with a weight less than Kim Kardashian Hips can't enjoy a romantic/sexual relationship because she is not aware of Marriage.
      Marriage should be performed between two adults who want to live with each other. Marriage is a sexual thing not related to religion.

  • @sikandarrana6377
    @sikandarrana6377 Місяць тому +29

    You are absolutely correct. The tragic and sad part is that our religious and social level of debate in 21st century boils down to “wether to have sex or not with a child” .

    • @rootsquare7907
      @rootsquare7907 Місяць тому +2

      brother this is islam, you can't make haram which allah made halal.

    • @eramsaeed446
      @eramsaeed446 Місяць тому +3

      @@rootsquare7907 well tahts the whole point isn't it? Allah didnt make it halal. Understand all of Quran. The rulings of Quran over role of husband and that of a wife. The responsibility Allah places on men for the physical, psychological and emotional well being of his wife. Having sex with an underage girl would destroy her mental health....Pls stop taking one ayat out of context and declaring it halal!!!! This is the same method alcohol drinkers use when saying Allah said don't go near namaz if intoxicated. NO!! When we have the context we know alcohol is haram.
      Sex with an underage girl = sex with a child= pedophilia! Islam doesn't make such a crime halal under any circumstance. Pls stop assigning such lies with this beautiful religion and Allah.

    • @rootsquare7907
      @rootsquare7907 Місяць тому

      @@eramsaeed446 My dear friend, l agree with you. You can’t be more right. But did you read bukhari and Quran. Even prophet Mohammad (SAW) married 6 year old girl, and had sex at 9. It’s authentic Hadith, I can give reference from bukhari and many more books. Will you say prophet Mohammad was pedophile, with the criteria you said, I would say YES. Please reply and give me justifications. Also if you want reference I can send you. No one dispute that don’t even try to make peace with yourself either it’s wrong or right. You tell me.

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@rootsquare7907aisha r.a is adult when she consumate her marriage go see zaid Patel he gives references. ! And all scolars have ijma that aisha r.a.is adult ! don't use phedophilia word ! Phedophilia is haram in islam !! Everything which gives harm that are haram ! There is difference in opinion in age of aisha ra.and in tareekh it is mentioned that aisha r.a is 19years old and other books says aisha r.a.is 21-24 years of age ! But if we get 9-10 years of age then also aisha r.a.is adult because she got puberty and it is mentioned in hadees and she is happy in her whole life ok! ! Don't give wrong information if you don't know !bro you can see zaid Patel in which he provide references and explain that those women who r adult and does not got puberty due to some disease or other health issue ! In islam when girl become physically and mentally mature then she give consent and then she consumate her marriage by her own choice ok! And he gives early scolars tafseer references in which it is mentioned that this ayat is for those adult nonhealthy girls who does not got menstruation due to some health problems reason !and that point of view is correct ! !
      And according to other side scolars which says which says nikah is done by wali but when girl become adult and she is physically and mentally mature and she become adult then she consumate her marriage by her own choice and if she does not want to consumate then she has right to break her nikah in that position ! And it is ijma of majority of early scolars in which it is mentioned that consumation of marriage is not allowed if girl is not physically and mentally mature that iddat in short girls is for khalwate syya like something. !Ok. !!there is no consumation of marriage before puberty ! Ok !!! !!! !! !!!

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      ​​​@@rootsquare7907Hinduism mai aurat ki budhi choti batai hai dekho 😂 :-Ringved 8:33:17
      Indra himself has said The mind of women Brooks not dicipline her intellect hath little weight
      *It says intellect of women is small* 😂😂
      If you want to debate in that topic then come on awaz-e-haq live and islamic awaikning! !!

  • @rameezsafdar6563
    @rameezsafdar6563 Місяць тому +2

    Alhamdulilah, finally someone gets it right, I have been watching for more than a year now and Alhamdulilah you always come up with valid and logical answers. This is exactly what is meant by this ayat but unfortunately our illeterate or naive scholars jumped on to making it something totally opposite, i wonder have they not read the hadith where prophet says to MARRY ONCE ONE HIT PUBERTY. May Allah reward you for this. ameen

    • @xMoomin
      @xMoomin Місяць тому

      Puberty isn't a magical day, a child becomes adult.. puberty is a transformation period.. which takes YEARS.. and even 17-18 is not fully developed adult body..

  • @yasirkk4901
    @yasirkk4901 Місяць тому +1

    Although I have many disagreements with you regarding your ideologies this one is agreeable and appreciated Taimur sab

  • @abdar-rahman6965
    @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +5

    *Words Nisa (women نِّسَآئِكُمْ), of verse 65:4 make 100% clear that this verse is not talking about female Children 4:75 but about Women 4:75 who do not have menses due to any disease or due to any physical defect. Please read my detailed comments on this subject which I have already posted under this video. Truth is: Oldi Imams and Mufassar were much more Ignorant even than laptop Mullah of today*

  • @tmr.mohsin8020
    @tmr.mohsin8020 Місяць тому +1

    This way of differing with respect and etiquette is worth appreciating ( irrespective of the fact whether you agree or disagree)

  • @khansahib8028
    @khansahib8028 Місяць тому +8

    abu layth has the best take on this ayah , engr mirza too interpreted this is in the same way until haris sultan pointed it out and then he changed his veiws clarifying it again in a podcast,

    • @sufiblade
      @sufiblade Місяць тому +1

      Abu Layth really saved the deen for me

    • @ahsanaalhadith8433
      @ahsanaalhadith8433 6 днів тому

      Harris Sultana can only use the ad hominem to say they are "lipstick scholars" and resort to logical fallacies.

  • @ashrafalam6075
    @ashrafalam6075 Місяць тому +1

    Respected Professor, I admire your understanding about the interpretation of this Ayat. I have unlimited time study every Ayat in Urdu/ English to reach the optimal level of satisfaction. There are only 4 or 5 Ayat are Absolute, rest are Variables. Basically Quran is a miracle and if it's forever then interpretation will be according to time and situation. Problem arises when someone is become stubborn about their interpretation with Zero flexibility. Every Ayat is interpreted as of today. New horizon will open automatically. 8:48

  • @AsadAwan-yt4gh
    @AsadAwan-yt4gh Місяць тому

    G young age main nikah ho skta hai laik intercorse k bare main ikhtelaf hai .

  • @AhmedJalbani
    @AhmedJalbani Місяць тому +2

    Hum bhi sekhna chahtay hain or apni hasiyat may jo deen ko samjha hay.
    Aap ke baat say agree bhi karta hon

  • @MeraMedium
    @MeraMedium Місяць тому +4

    Sir you are absolutely right

  • @showkatbhat9096
    @showkatbhat9096 Місяць тому +2

    How did you access all these great commentaries in English language? This particular website that you have mentioned has only a handful of English language tafsir options. Can you please share how to go these English commentaries that you have cited in your video?

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому

      You are right. It was not my only source. But it is an amazing website. Hence, I recommended it.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +1

      Tafseers are lies. Only a unwise person will superimpose man-made Tafsirs on Quran. Quran does its own Tafsir fully. So man-made Tafsir is not needed. This is why, Rasool and all Sahaaba left behind no Tafsir. There was ban on hadiths and Tafsirs during the era of Rasool and 4 Caliphs. Once Caliph Umar came to know that a person is trying to write Tafsir. He called that man, rebuked him and wasted the paper on which he was writing Tafsir.
      When a person asked tafsir of one verse from Abu Bakar, he answered:
      _Which Earth will give me refuge and which Sky will shadow over me if I tell you some thing about Quran which I do not know_ (Mussannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah)
      *The Best Tafsir for Quran is Quran itself*

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +2

      Never Impose any Tafsir on Quran. All Books of Tafsirs are Books of comic fairytales. He was Pseudo convert Rabbi Wahb bin Munibbah who first time started to write tales of Tafsir. He writes:
      _Four Angels are lifting throne of God, and from those four angels, each Angel has four faces; face of a lion, an Eagle, a bull and a human_ (Reference Al-Matalab al-Aalia by Ibn Hajar).
      Know that: *the best Tafsir for Quran is Quran itself. Verses explain each other*

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      @@abdar-rahman6965 10000% correct!

  • @MuhammadWaqas-kz4fc
    @MuhammadWaqas-kz4fc Місяць тому +1

    I don't know Sir where did u get this interpretation of Mudoodi sahb because I have had shared his interpretation on ur tweet regarding this and now attaching here as well.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому +1

      From his Tafseer of Quran.

  • @amitnahta
    @amitnahta Місяць тому +15

    Taimur bhai aao kabhi ExMuslim Sahil ya Adam Seeker Urdu live channel pe to have a healthy discussion on Qur'an 65:4

    • @scott6996
      @scott6996 Місяць тому +3

      Contact amir haq bhai.

    • @amitnahta
      @amitnahta Місяць тому

      @@scott6996 Hahahaha... LUMS ke Professor ko ek sadakchhap jahil batayega Islam kya hota hai? 🤣🤣

    • @SapiensHaiHum
      @SapiensHaiHum Місяць тому +6

      Kyu bhai. Kabhi Science Journey, Realist azad ko bhi invite karo. Kab tak Hindus ke feke huye tukdo par jiyoge? Himmat hai to islamic terrorism ke sath Hindutva terrorism ki bhi apne channel par baat karna. Pehle apni gandagi bhi saaf karo.

    • @AmmarAhmad910
      @AmmarAhmad910 Місяць тому

      There's nothing to discuss. The verse is crystal clear. The use of word Woman clearly tells it's talking about women not little girls. If some are misinterpreting it then it's their fault. Qur'an Pak is crystal clear

    • @rajababy2009
      @rajababy2009 Місяць тому +1

      balika vadhu Viva should be discussed as well , what about neyog ? what about satti , there is thousands of thing in hinduism to be discussed if islam has few misunderstanding to discusss on other hands your religion practices cannibalism , rape , force marriage , women marriages with more than one brother , even incest , marriages with tree and dogs to take out dosh and many more

  • @syedmuhammadfawwaz7532
    @syedmuhammadfawwaz7532 Місяць тому

    Maa Shaa ALLAAH - Impressed with your exegises knowledge Taimur but also saddened to see huge number of exegisers who just casually permitted child marriage while completely neglecting the 6th verse of chapter 4 (Al-Nisaa). Would like too watch more of such videos.
    May ALLAAH forgive the shortcomings of the mufassireen and accept their efforts.

  • @mhdbilal746
    @mhdbilal746 Місяць тому +1

    bro bro bro bro bro !!!!!
    you have reached the same spot on this topic as I have reached after listening to Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza
    I was also giving you advice to listen him on topic as I have listened before
    then finally you mentioned him at the end !
    God bless you
    Jazak Allah

  • @eramsaeed446
    @eramsaeed446 Місяць тому +8

    1500 years ago, most ppl didnt reach an age beyond 40 years. Most died in their 30s. The socio-economic system revolved around maximum number of children a family could have. So young girls getting married before age of 12 was very common. Perhaps that is why Quran is vague and didn't clearly prohibit the custom. Think about it, all other people are marrying off their children (not just. daughters) at an early age and Muslims had to keep their daughters at home, chaste, and wait till they are 16 or so? So based on the custom, we are supposed to decide what works best with the primary concern being the consent and protection of the girl.
    Interestingly; if what this gentleman is saying is correct (i.e. husband is not prohibited from consummation with underage girl) than how would he explain that Islam doesnot recognise a Nikah without the explicit consent of the female. If she is underage, how is consent taken? So maybe Quran is vague in this ayat but if you understand all of Quran, you CAN NOT arrive at this interpretation even remotely. Not v surprised Maududi Sb had such a skewed view. No matter how esteemed a scholar, we must remember 1) they were/are human and can make mistakes. 2) Ever one, including scholars, are a product of their environment/culture/education/exposure to modern sciences etc. Maududi sb no doubt is a towering personality in Islamic thought but his views regarding women have always left me aghast and sometimes contradictory to sunnah.
    This gentleman gave an appalling interview to Jordan P. Don't know why he's popular but frankly his knowledge is at best surface level. Perhaps his young age has to do something with it also.
    May Allah pak guide us all to beneficial knowledge & truth Aameen.

    • @117haxor-teampiratepakista8
      @117haxor-teampiratepakista8 Місяць тому

      There is a ruling by Abdullah ibn Baz, which says that a women can be married without consent if she is below 9 years of age.
      The father has this right.
      I just read it somewhere, haven’t gone into full detail.
      But there is something like this, there is a threshold after which the women attains the capability of consenting. Before that, the consent is not required.

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      Bro you can check zaid Patel in which he gives references and gives explanation with early scolar tafseer ! This ayat is for when adult girl have problem in health issue and she is not menstruated at that time ! And other opinion of scolars is girl done marriage when she is short but she is living in her parents house until she become physically and mentally mature and at that time her marriage is fix by her father then divorse is getting from their husband then iddat is for khalwate sayya !it is ijma of salaf in which it is mentioned consumation of marriage is not allowed until girl become physically and mentally mature and she give consent by her own choice at that time !okk! majoriry all early scolars already tell that consumation is not allowed until she become physically and mentally mature!if any person ank questions to you then tell them there is no complete child marriage word in islam ! In islam Complete marriage= nikah+mehar(maritalgift)+ physically mature+mentally mature at consumation } !at the time of consumation if girl does not want to consumate her marriage then she has right tk break her nikah at that time Ok. 😊. !! !!! !! !!

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@117haxor-teampiratepakista8Bro you can check zaid Patel in which he gives references and gives explanation with early scolar tafseer ! This ayat is for when adult girl have problem in health issue and she is not menstruated at that time ! And other opinion of scolars is girl done marriage when she is short but she is living in her parents house until she become physically and mentally mature and at that time her marriage is fix by her father then divorse is getting from their husband then iddat is for khalwate sayya !it is ijma of salaf in which it is mentioned consumation of marriage is not allowed until girl become physically and mentally mature and she give consent by her own choice at that time !okk! majoriry all early scolars already tell that consumation is not allowed until she become physically and mentally mature!if any person ank questions to you then tell them there is no complete child marriage word in islam ! In islam Complete marriage= nikah+mehar(maritalgift)+ physically mature+mentally mature at consumation } !at the time of consumation if girl does not want to consumate her marriage then she has right tk break her nikah at that time Ok. 😊. !! !!! !! !!!!¡!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!

    • @WingsOfPeaceToronto
      @WingsOfPeaceToronto Місяць тому +1

      I agree with you. I am not a scholar of Islam - but here is how I think and believe - Allah(SWT) gave us brains/intelligence, that we should make rational decisions based on the faculties provided to us on matters that are within realm of human understanding (whatever we can grasp) and for the matters that are beyond our power of reasoning (divine secrets/mysteries) we believe in them as we are guided by our scholars. Now can we be so blind and ignorant to agree with premise that Allah(SWT) will permit us to wed our daughters/sons at the age of 5 years? - it is a matter that is within human grasp to make judgement calls - on the other hand, for example, why we are not allowed to eat pork - I just take it as element of faith, I don't need to prove it to myself why it is prohibited

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      @@117haxor-teampiratepakista8 Who is this Ibn Baz? Is he is a Prophet or an angel? Who gave him authority to pass such nonsensical judgements like this? Did Allah give him the authority? Or is there an ayah in the Quran than everyone missed that says we should listen to this Ibn Baz? Think for yourself, read and understand the Quran stop following these stupid Mullahs!

  • @awaisbmw
    @awaisbmw Місяць тому +1

    Sir yh surah Talaq hai jinki shaadi ki age he nai hui unka Surah Talaq ma zikar kyun hoga!!
    Meray khayal ma ismain aurton ka zikar hai aur yh talaq kay baray ma hai!! Pichli 3 ayaat ko bhi agr parha jaye to sahi wahizaa hojaiga kay kis baray ma zikar hai!!

  • @bravojl
    @bravojl Місяць тому +1

    Wow! Reaction Video by Dr Sahab.

  • @kashifmogheera
    @kashifmogheera Місяць тому +7

    انتہائی معقول بات کہی آپ نے۔

  • @SameerSZ
    @SameerSZ Місяць тому +5

    You are absolutely right Sir! Ghamidi sahab has explained it far better than all those ulema you mentioned. It's a religion, not an election where majority wins!

    • @2AN3M
      @2AN3M Місяць тому

      Really? Ghamidi is filtering out the vile of 7th century with his skills to save from embarrassment of what is written in the DIVINE Quran.

  • @szkhan954
    @szkhan954 Місяць тому +5

    I don't understand why they have interpreted the specific word as young girls. Women above 50 might not menstruate as well.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому

      Sunni and Shia tamper translation of several verses of Quran in order to RECONCILE stories of their Forged hadiths with Quran

    • @bmontique
      @bmontique День тому

      It covers women in menopause (older women) separately. The categories were older women who have no courses, women who have not had courses YET, and pregnant women. The women who have no courses anymore are the ones you speak of. The pregnant ones are obviously pregnant, which leaves ones who have not had courses YET. Those are young girls. Since we are talking about Islam, a religion where you can contract marriage at a prepubescent age, it is talking about those girls. The young ones. Authentic hadiths confirm this.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 День тому

      @@bmontique
      Your Women = مِن نِّسَآئِكُمْ
      In the very beginning, verse 65:4 talks about Woman > Nisa; not about Children > Wildan. In Quran, Nisa is Adult Female human. Quran NEVER permits man's marriage with Children but with NISA=Women=Adult Female. *All Hadiths are CONCOCTED Tales. Mohammad left behind not even one page of Hadiths. He indeed banned hadiths.*
      These Mullahs deliberately TAMPER translation of several verses of Quran in order to RECONCILE their Concocted Stories of Hadiths with Quran. They are doing so for 1200 years

    • @bmontique
      @bmontique День тому

      @@abdar-rahman6965 It's talking about divorce in general and waiting periods for each type. Again, child marriage is permitted (Muhammad and Aisha) so it would be reasonable that rules be made for those situations as well right?

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 День тому

      Mohammad left only Quran; NO hadith. So Islam=Quran. Full Stop. *Show me from Quran marriage of Aisha and Mohammad? Have already Rationally explained that verse 65:4 talks about Women; not about Children*
      That story of Marriage of Aisha and Mohammad was FORGED by 13 People who belonged To Shia sect. All the 13 were from Shia-stronghold Cities of Kufa and Basra of Iraq.
      People who know history of Islam, know well that how are Shia insulting Aisha and his Dad Abu Bakr for 1200 years

  • @iqbalrasool9865
    @iqbalrasool9865 Місяць тому +2

    For another opinion, we can consider 'Tafsir al-Mizan,' a book by Muhammad Husayn Tabataba'i.

  • @Meezan12
    @Meezan12 Місяць тому +2

    Salam Laal sir
    I would request to read
    Shia tafsir as well
    Like tafsir Al kauthar
    By Allamah mohsin najfi
    Where he clarifies it
    😊

  • @user-vs2px6ck9v
    @user-vs2px6ck9v Місяць тому +3

    Sir, this issue was raised in a debate between Harris Sultan and Quaisar Ahmad Raja held a few months back. The topic of debate was 'Islamic Morality'. This is available in UA-cam

  • @muhammadikrama9286
    @muhammadikrama9286 Місяць тому +2

    Yes! Primary amenorrhea (failure of menstruation even after puberty) is very common and the verse is most likely talking about that.
    Surah Nisa clearly says 'when they reach the age of Nikah'
    Quran clearly states that the age of Nikah is the age when a girl can be trusted with monetary matters.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +2

      true

    • @tay974
      @tay974 Місяць тому

      'Very Common', could you please cite the reference regarding statistics of primary amenorrhoea from any Gyanecology book. Thank you in advance brother.

    • @tay974
      @tay974 Місяць тому

      The incidence of primary amenorrhea in the United States is less than 1%. [22] Each year, approximately 5-7% of menstruating women in the United States experience 3 months of secondary amenorrhea. About one third of cases of secondary amenorrhea can be attributed to functional hypothalamic amenorrhea. [23]
      No evidence indicates that the prevalence of amenorrhea varies according to national origin or ethnic group. However, local environmental factors related to nutrition and the prevalence of chronic disease undoubtedly have an effect. For instance, the age of the first menses varies by geographic location, as demonstrated by a World Health Organization study comparing 11 countries, which reported a median age of menarche of 13-16 years across centers.
      Increases in the rates of childhood obesity around the world may also contribute to earlier onset of menarche and increased prevalence of obesity-related menstrual disorders, especially in areas where obesity is more prevalent. [24] Exposure to environmental toxins, namely hormonally active endocrine disruptors, may also result in increased rates of menstrual and reproductive disorders in endemic area [MEDSCAPE]

  • @muhammadmutaharchaudhry
    @muhammadmutaharchaudhry Місяць тому +3

    Sir you are spot on.

  • @hamzaafzaldev
    @hamzaafzaldev Місяць тому +3

    Dr. saahib! Maulana's opinion is not hujjat upon ummah. Just like 4 amams did ijtihad, today's muslim can and should also do it.

  • @SapiensHaiHum
    @SapiensHaiHum Місяць тому +2

    This is nice to see Pakistani people are critically thinking 🙏🤝

  • @Philosopher-ey6qg
    @Philosopher-ey6qg 24 дні тому +1

    Well Dr. Taimur it is sickening to see that a liberal secular scholar is defending such an obscene and abominable verse. This is the problem with religion. It makes us blind and dumb. We start defending such inhumane nonsense.
    I have a questions for all the thinking people in the comment section, what would be your reaction if such a verse is written in other religious books like Manusmriti or Bible. Would still have maintained this attitude of blindly defending it.

  • @Ameerite
    @Ameerite Місяць тому +14

    honestly, i feel sad and disgusted at the same time. these debates should not concern un in the 21st century. the verses were revealed in 6th century and let them remain there.

    • @ChefbyMistake
      @ChefbyMistake Місяць тому +1

      The problem is what one will do with a small girl? Why

    • @gentleman7270
      @gentleman7270 Місяць тому +4

      You are speaking from your ignorance you haven't read anything by your own, and passing a judgement on a small clip 😂

    • @Moiz-cu5mi
      @Moiz-cu5mi Місяць тому +2

      Its a universal and timeless message of Allah. It is neccesarry to believe them. You really think u know humans better than the one (Allah) who created them? Also Allah has given u a brain use it. My interpretation is that it allows nikkah not intercourse.

    • @MamaMama-sv3b
      @MamaMama-sv3b Місяць тому +2

      This lala band are atheist just want to establish ex Muslim business

    • @ChefbyMistake
      @ChefbyMistake Місяць тому

      @@MamaMama-sv3b I don’t think so he works at LUMS. LUMS is owned by a Sayyed family

  • @affantariq8729
    @affantariq8729 Місяць тому +2

    I agree with you because according to ahadith a nikkah is batil if it doesn't have a permission of husband or wife so this ayah must be about that and muhammad hijab is also right that without a hadith it can get difficult to understand context of some ayyats

  • @Umer-tr4lj
    @Umer-tr4lj Місяць тому +3

    Ur absolutely right. This refers to those women who have not mensturated past the regular age!!

  • @hereticmorte666
    @hereticmorte666 Місяць тому +5

    it is not surprising. Quran came at a time when marrying pre pubescent girls was normal. Regarding your interpretation of Quran talking about rare exceptions (that is delayed puberty) doesn't holds, because Quran never really talks about rare exceptions of anything. So, why would it talk about it in this case? also, it is quite established that the prophet married Ayesha at 6 y/o and consummated the marriage when she was 9 (albeit reached puberty).
    Islam is an archaic ideology and we'll be deeply in trouble if we started incorporating it's outdated prescriptions in our society.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому +2

      While there was a tradition of fathers giving away child brides, I've not heard that the marriage could be consummated. Perhaps you have information on this. Please share.

    • @kamranhumayun3536
      @kamranhumayun3536 Місяць тому +2

      "Outdated", lol

  • @aftabafridi1731
    @aftabafridi1731 Місяць тому +1

    Mashallah, It means you are studying Maulana Maududi literature with great interest💕

  • @awaisbmw
    @awaisbmw Місяць тому +2

    Dr Nauman Ali Khan ki tafseer bhi dekhni chaiye unhon nay is Ayat ma kisi young ya choti bachi ka zikar nahi kia!! Women ka zikar kia hai!!

  • @End_of_ichlaam
    @End_of_ichlaam Місяць тому +1

    Can you please clarify this verse against Adam Seeker or Ex Muslim Sahil on live debate

  • @ARSALANKHAN-ub3hm
    @ARSALANKHAN-ub3hm Місяць тому +2

    Sickness of mind doesn't excludes scholars .....
    Anyone can make mistake but your approach seems reasonable on the subject

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому

      No one has harmed Islam more than these Pseudo Sectarian Scholars

  • @syedahmad8406
    @syedahmad8406 Місяць тому +9

    Whether it's your conclusion or Hijab's or Ghamdi's, it is true that Qur'an is interpreted in the light of sunnah. The words in Arabic simply say "and those who have not menstruated yet". It is outside knowledge one has to use to add further clauses to it, such as "delayed puberty" or "sickness". The fact that we have to use outside knowledge does not contradict the Qur'an since the Qur'an affirms to follow the prophet's lived teaching as well as the 'urf (custom) of the people. At the time, it was a common practice to validate a contract of marriage by parents before puberty however, Islam required intimacy to occur only after puberty and the consent of the woman. The contract before marriage was a practice in judeo-christian traditions as well. The verse could is also open to delayed-puberty women as Maududi himself affirms.
    You misrepresent Maududi here. Just before the paragraph you quoted, he mentions the explanation of what he means by "who have not menstruated yet" in the paragraph you quoted:
    "They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced." (Tafheem)
    So your opinion also follows Muadudi's since he makes mention of women with delayed puberty. It is not a new opinion. I am not a Maududi fanatic however you cornered him into a single opinion.

    • @syedhameedullahshah2221
      @syedhameedullahshah2221 Місяць тому +1

      strawman fallacy

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      "It is outside knowledge one has to use to add further clauses to it" And this is exactly what the Quran forbids in several places.

    • @syedahmad8406
      @syedahmad8406 Місяць тому

      @@OnlineEarningOasis Quran forbids contradictory knowledge not additional knowledge of its approval. For example, the Qur'an tells you to obey your parents but not which commands exactly of your parents. So when your father says, "help me with the car", and you do it, you are indirectly following the Qur'an. Although the Qur'an did not directly tell you to help your father with his car. Same is the case of the sunnah, "make the prophet a judge between your matters", "refer to the prophet", etc.

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      @@syedahmad8406 " Quran forbids contradictory knowledge not additional knowledge of its approval" Again nothing but lies.
      [Quran 18:27] You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.
      [Quran 6:114] Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.
      [Quran 45:6] These are God's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than God and His revelations do they believe?

    • @pirsaint449
      @pirsaint449 Місяць тому

      Bent minds will always seek crooked path

  • @WingsOfPeaceToronto
    @WingsOfPeaceToronto Місяць тому +1

    Hijab has lot of ego issues - he just want media popularity/following - may Allah(SWT) save Muslims from pseudo scholars like Hijab

  • @user-rz9ko3kk8g
    @user-rz9ko3kk8g Місяць тому +5

    I find your personal view particularly hilarious (although I have deep respect for you, as I have a learned a lot from you) because if you contend that Quran is the literal word of God and God is all knowing then God must have known that this verse mine is going to create a lot confusion in later ages. God would not have a need for you, Hijab, Maududi or any human being to clarify his message for the rest of us. It's God we are talking about, for God's sake. Again I respect you alot regarding your political and social views and I mostly agree with you on those things. But when it comes to islamic topics, one can't comprehend how a person like you can take these things seriously!

    • @baybars3138
      @baybars3138 Місяць тому +2

      aap ko kiaa dard hai?

    • @maryamshukat1285
      @maryamshukat1285 Місяць тому

      Jin logon ko ap ne last PE mention Kia Hai , ap Ki soch Ki aqasi Kar Raha Hai ... Ap sab log Allah se seperate muataqeem manga Karen .

  • @iamhamzaaliabbasi
    @iamhamzaaliabbasi Місяць тому +1

    1 - Quran chapter 4 verse 6 actually does set an age for marriage or nikah - an age when a person has enough sound reasoning to take independent decisions of life - especially financial decisions - that is deemed to be age of marriage as per Quran 4:6. Hence the idea of child marriage seems completely against the essence of Quran.
    2 - Your analysis is correct about this verse - it is talking about “Women” who despite reaching maturity have not menstruated bcz of health or genetic reasons. This verse also includes women who are not menstruating for some reason despite not reaching age of menopause.

  • @waseemijaz4087
    @waseemijaz4087 Місяць тому +14

    Good job sir, i am just waiting for qaisar raja reaction video to get credit for free 😂.

    • @ismailansari6916
      @ismailansari6916 Місяць тому

      Bas kar namune😂 matlab kuchbhi

    • @doityourselfpakistan6535
      @doityourselfpakistan6535 Місяць тому

      Raja Shahab genral baat ker ke wesy hi genral public ko fan bana lety hin .

    • @user-yh1qd7lj5f
      @user-yh1qd7lj5f Місяць тому

      cuz yall weaklings can only spread funded propaganda through social media, non of you have guts to debate about what you preach, raja qaiser has openly challenged yall to debate with him, either go debate with him or weep

    • @aliso5987
      @aliso5987 Місяць тому +2

      Everyone can make echos in his own chamber. Everyone is a champion behind camera.
      The real deal is when you engage in an actual debate. This man only make content for views and money.

    • @waseemijaz4087
      @waseemijaz4087 Місяць тому

      @@aliso5987 you are absolutely right, Raja always make contents for views.

  • @user-dj8cd8iw3h
    @user-dj8cd8iw3h Місяць тому +1

    There is no single verse in quran where it says marrying more than 4 wife's is forbidden.there is no single verse in quran which says you can't watch movies.

  • @Curiosityoffsite
    @Curiosityoffsite Місяць тому +2

    Perhaps I can help,
    1: Was not it better that Allah could have created every human with understanding of Arabic (his last massage language) rather than taking oath to protect his word till qayamat what does it worth if people couldn't understand it clearly. While Allah claims that he has given us the sense of Good and bad ( I don't see so, do you?), then it was better to give arabic understanding.
    2. Allah mentioning 3 categories of women, 1st who menstruates 2nd who are pregnant, who can be third 🤔🙆 ok by the way, who don't menstruates. In ur good answer I found few mistakes,
    1. Can you please show me in the whole Quran that Allah knows about genetics, even about bacterial life? Then how can you fit genetics logic.
    2. What difference do you find in woman who are despaired of menstruation irrespective of the disorder or age because iddah is defined criteria for divorce as,
    1. Menstruating : 3 menstruation as iddah (surely young woman)
    2. Pregnant: till the birth of baby as iddah (surely young woman)
    3. Despaired non menstruating: three months as iddah ( Quran said woman who are despaired of menstruation that includes both aged and woman young enough but not menstruating, despaired too bacaz they don't know if they would menstruate or never (genetically delayed).
    4. Non menstruating: this is for child babies ( prophet Muhammad married Ayesha at 6 and consummated at 9) but u mistakenly repeated the despaired woman category in this verse to avoid the child marriage permission in Islam but it is fact.
    Why an almighty God would repeat the same subject in a verse to create confusion in his last word?
    It is not God confused but his followers 😔

  • @moinuddin9076
    @moinuddin9076 Місяць тому +1

    انا للہ وانا الیہ راجعون Just as it is in the Qur'an that some people are misled by reading it and some people are guided by reading it. If such a person thinks that all the hadiths contained in Bukhari Sharif are narrated by the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and they are authentic, then that person is ignorant please , don't compare Bukhari to the Qur'an

  • @A.--.
    @A.--. Місяць тому +2

    Its referring to Amenorrhea or Oligomenorrhea

  • @ClassicalInstrumentalMusic
    @ClassicalInstrumentalMusic Місяць тому +7

    Great job, taimur! Its not easy to take on such people. Stay safe.

  • @user-kk3xn8qn2q
    @user-kk3xn8qn2q Місяць тому +2

    5 year old is not the limit here . If we follow old tafseer path, it means there is no limit as a 1 year old girl also doesnt have puberty. So it doesnt stop

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому

      Tafseers are lies

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      You got wrong information! There are many old tafseer in which it is mentioned that girl should be adult for consumation! Bro you can check zaid Patel in which he gives references and gives explanation with early scolar tafseer ! This ayat is for when adult girl have problem in health issue and she is not menstruated at that time ! And other opinion of scolars is girl done marriage when she is short but she is living in her parents house until she become physically and mentally mature and at that time her marriage is fix by her father then divorse is getting from their husband then iddat is for khalwate sayya !it is ijma of salaf in which it is mentioned consumation of marriage is not allowed until girl become physically and mentally mature and she give consent by her own choice at that time !okk! majoriry all early scolars already tell that consumation is not allowed until she become physically and mentally mature!if any person ank questions to you then tell them there is no complete child marriage word in islam ! In islam Complete marriage= nikah+mehar(maritalgift)+ physically mature+mentally mature at consumation } !at the time of consumation if girl does not want to consumate her marriage then she has right to break her nikah at that time Ok. 😊. !! !!! !

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@abdar-rahman6965There are many old tafseer in which it is mentioned that girl should be adult for consumation! Bro you can check zaid Patel in which he gives references and gives explanation with early scolar tafseer ! This ayat is for when adult girl have problem in health issue and she is not menstruated at that time ! And other opinion of scolars is girl done marriage when she is short but she is living in her parents house until she become physically and mentally mature and at that time her marriage is fix by her father then divorse is getting from their husband then iddat is for khalwate sayya !it is ijma of salaf in which it is mentioned consumation of marriage is not allowed until girl become physically and mentally mature and she give consent by her own choice at that time !okk! majoriry all early scolars already tell that consumation is not allowed until she become physically and mentally mature!if any person ank questions to you then tell them there is no complete child marriage word in islam ! In islam Complete marriage= nikah+mehar(maritalgift)+ physically mature+mentally mature at consumation } !at the time of consumation if girl does not want to consumate her marriage then she has right to break her nikah at that time Ok. 😊. !! !!! !!!! !!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

  • @imroz188
    @imroz188 Місяць тому +1

    I'll recommend Is masle pr mufti Yasir Nadeem Al wajidi ka bayan sune unhone context samjhaya hai jazakallah !

  • @longlivelogic8128
    @longlivelogic8128 Місяць тому +5

    Deism is the most strongest philosophical position to have.

    • @tay974
      @tay974 Місяць тому +2

      My mind is turning to it as I rarely see any external interference in our daily life. We should only bother the things which related to our daily life.

    • @mumin9436
      @mumin9436 Місяць тому

      @@tay974❤️👍

    • @syedhameedullahshah2221
      @syedhameedullahshah2221 Місяць тому

      #panendeism

  • @tqm790
    @tqm790 Місяць тому +1

    Sir, scripture are for us Or we are for scripture?

  • @oyster4545
    @oyster4545 Місяць тому +3

    Sir, I don't think there is room for different interpretation.Quran e Pak usually does not consider such miner details,but leaves it to Mujtahids or Hadith.Quran lays out broad principles relating to every matter and not minute details or standard deviation.
    How ever,this verse needs ijtehad to find better interpretation instead of presenting weak logics as presented by Ghamidi Sahb..

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому +2

      Why is his logic weak? Please explain.

    • @hammadhussain4422
      @hammadhussain4422 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Taimur_Laal
      The Holy prophet ( S.A.W) has already prescribed the solution for all confusions regarding the divine guidance. He said that stick to the Quran and his holy family so that you cannot go deviated .
      If you think this verse alone might cause confusion hence misguidance then see what the divine interpreters( ahl ul bayt ) have said about it .
      This is why the Quran needs infallible interpreters because a corrupt scholar can bring the hell out of it instead of guidance.

    • @kamranhumayun3536
      @kamranhumayun3536 Місяць тому

      ​@@Taimur_Laal because he is presupposing it in his.own paradigm instead of the actuality of these verse and the hadith complements it, like where Hazray Ayesha was 6 at time of nikkah and 9 when consumation.
      And kindly do your research more througly instead of a limiting gaze of what you think and what is the reality and history

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      @@hammadhussain4422 lol you insert your fake shiaism in everything!

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      @@kamranhumayun3536 For God's sake please stop it, stop insulting the Prophet and the Quran to protect your fake hadith books! Just stop it!

  • @quadirather
    @quadirather Місяць тому +3

    I agree with Moududi mostly 😊but in that point he clearly miss the point, ghamidi and Engr mirza was right.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +1

      ghamidi and Engr mirza + Moududi all are Impostors

  • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
    @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +2

    Bro you can check zaid Patel in which he gives references and gives explanation with early scolar tafseer ! This ayat is for when adult girl have problem in health issue and she is not menstruated at that time ! And that opinion is correct !! And other opinion of scolars is girl done marriage when she is short but she is living in her parents house until she become physically and mentally mature and at that time her marriage is fix by her father then divorse is getting from their husband then iddat is for khalwate sayya !it is ijma of salaf in which it is mentioned consumation of marriage is not allowed until girl become physically and mentally mature and she give consent by her own choice at that time !okk! majoriry all early scolars already tell that consumation is not allowed until she become physically and mentally mature that thing is explained by mufti Yasir Nadeem alwajidi ! ! ! In islam Complete marriage= nikah+mehar(maritalgift)+ physically mature+mentally mature at consumation } !Ok. 😊. !! !!! !!

  • @bamboo123456able
    @bamboo123456able Місяць тому

    Sir yeah sub definitions Hadith per base kerti hain.kyun Kay nabi SAW ki hazrat ayesha say shadi ko justify kerna hai.lakin agar shadi ka purpose dekhain Jo Allah Quran main batata hai TU wo hai "to reach the age of sound mind"
    Icliye Islam main nikkah Kay waqat larka larki ki Raza mandi zarori hai.ab agar aik 5 ya 7 Saal ki bachi ko maloom he nahin Kay shadi Kya Hoti hai TU Islam usko kaisay jaiz qarar day sakta hai.

  • @winistan
    @winistan Місяць тому +2

    Agree with you a 100 %

  • @DKS_London
    @DKS_London Місяць тому +2

    If God created religions, for some he said since I am giving you brain, use the religious text or texts as guide, for others he said since you are not going to use your brain and you will not have much analytical logic, just follow the book blindly.

  • @hms1000
    @hms1000 Місяць тому +1

    Please note - that’s the reason a lot of folks have issues with Maududi Sahab - he is a scholar, but he cuts himself off from the traditional understanding and translations - which themselves link back to the Salaf and their understanding- connected to the time of the prophet SAW. As such he can come up with arguments and elements which can be badly and dangerously misleading - as he has done here. Surely, one person (Maududi Sb) - can not and does not have precedence over the huge body of evidence you have yourself collected on the Jordanian collection of 10s if not hundreds of Tafasirs and translations- some of them several hundred years old ! And therein lies the danger of cutting off from broadly accepted, traditions (which of course have to be in line with Quran and Sunnah).

  • @MuhammadAsimqw4hd
    @MuhammadAsimqw4hd Місяць тому

    Taimur Sahab kindly debate with some kind of person who talking about the system of Islam not just aqeeda or something like that the whole system and Its gonna be very informative for us.

  • @6-2001
    @6-2001 Місяць тому +1

    You are great man and not wrong

  • @truthseeker8470
    @truthseeker8470 Місяць тому +2

    It means neither Allah could make us understand thevQursn nor Prophet s.a.w.w. thats why you have to give your own view on 65:4

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому

      It is clear like 1+1=2 that verse 65:4 talks about Women=Nisa; not about Children but Sectarians tamper translation to validate their forged hadiths which permit child marriage

  • @Gustakhdude
    @Gustakhdude Місяць тому +1

    Its kindda sad to hear ,. To answer the question hijab raised that where in Quran it says that you cannot marry 5 years old or 7 years old ,. In surah nisa ayah 6 word marriageable age is mentioned ,. According to my knowledge in islam human age is divided in to two parts pre pubic in which humans dont accumulate any sin and post pubic in which humans accumulate sin and will have to answer for it on the day of judgement so reaching an age can only mean post pubic otherwise it does not need to be mentioned bcz we are born in pre pubic age ,. Now coming to Quran 65:4 before the part that he recited its clearly written ٱرْتَبْتُمْ which means if you doubt ,. If its talking about girls that are pre pubic and does not yet have ovulation then what can be the doubt?? Thats why you should always try to understand every word every ayah in context ,.

  • @ahsanaalhadith8433
    @ahsanaalhadith8433 6 днів тому

    Also include Ghulam Ahmed Parwez' commentary for this verse.

  • @muhammadhashirsiddiqui820
    @muhammadhashirsiddiqui820 Місяць тому +7

    Dr Taimur, Please give this a read...
    Regarding maudoodi's statement, he used the word "khalwat" (not khaloot), which literally translates to "alone."" and consummate in english, which doesn't necessarily mean intercourse, but it is a term "khalwat e saheeha, " which means that a husband and wife meet alone. (NOT always intercourse) So a girl who hasn't reached puberty ONLY NIKKAH is allowed with her not "rukhsati". So this verse is about the girl who is young, has been nikkahfied, AND khalwat (not intercourse)has been established. There are other classical scholars who agree with this, and this is explained by mufti nadeem yassir sb.

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому +5

      Come on man. It means consummate. Nothing else.

    • @MamaMama-sv3b
      @MamaMama-sv3b Місяць тому

      If you are not Muslim leave Islam alone

    • @MamaMama-sv3b
      @MamaMama-sv3b Місяць тому

      Don’t try to start ex Muslim business it’s will not work

    • @MamaMama-sv3b
      @MamaMama-sv3b Місяць тому +1

      Marriage idat all theses boundaries for those people theses belive god mulhadeen should not come on these leaves when they don’t have there own moralty

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +1

      Stop defending Moududi. You are twisting the fact

  • @sciencesquare1561
    @sciencesquare1561 Місяць тому +1

    Sahil, Sameer and adom seeker is also saying
    Debate with them also

  • @Ajazahm
    @Ajazahm Місяць тому +3

    These guys if shia should be airdrop to iran but if thy are sunnis thy should be sent to Afghanistan..these people are self enjoying europe nd making it hard for guys like us to get visa

  • @CatGirl635
    @CatGirl635 Місяць тому +2

    Apki bat sab sy zada logical hai

  • @sameerahayat6213
    @sameerahayat6213 Місяць тому +1

    تیمور صاحب یہ جو آپ delayed puberty کا نکتہ نکالے بیٹھے ھیں یہ قرآن میں کہاں پہ مذکور ھے؟

  • @MMalik-rs2hg
    @MMalik-rs2hg Місяць тому

    اَلسَّلاَ مُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَا تُهُ
    Why don’t you listen to the explanation of Hijab properly, he gives you another asool but you very conveniently left that out, so I suggest go back and listen to him again and the matter will be cleared
    ان شاء الله و تعالى

  • @dawoodimamk
    @dawoodimamk Місяць тому +7

    Puberty hits after age of 13-14 and some may had a late at age of 18. It's medicine

    • @God_Is_Fraud
      @God_Is_Fraud Місяць тому

      Puberty Hits after 13 and Muhammad had sex with baby Ayesha when she was 9 means she was not menstruating. This proves maududi is correct. No?😂😂😂

    • @MamaMama-sv3b
      @MamaMama-sv3b Місяць тому

      Lala band shab is not Muslim but he want to start business against Islam

    • @mazfars
      @mazfars Місяць тому

      You need to recheck that. Information. The ages you have presented is for men. For women it's 8-13 years. Then we have precious and delayed which is anything earlier or later vice versa.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +1

      @@mazfars
      I have read fully statistical Research which was done on Saudi Females in Saudi Arabia, and Puberty hits after age of 13-14. I like to post here link but then Utube will delete my comments

    • @mazfars
      @mazfars Місяць тому

      @@abdar-rahman6965 that research is scientifically wrong. There is no where on this planet where puberty hits that late. It completes at the age being mentioned by yourself and the original poster.

  • @tauseefshaukat6257
    @tauseefshaukat6257 Місяць тому +2

    there's no obligation to be an 'acha musalman' to be a good honest human being with a civic sense, and one ought call out that BS instead of looking for justifications and alternate interpretations. Call out that BS for what it is.

  • @ChefbyMistake
    @ChefbyMistake Місяць тому +2

    Both Sunni/Shia Jurists agree that there is no age limit however the problem is 5/7 vs 12/57 people need to understand the basic difference.

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому +1

      Sunni/Shia Jurists are not authority in Islam but Authority is Quran only 5:44, 6:114, and Quran never supports child Marriage. From first line of 65:4, It is clear that verse is talking about Nisa=Women=Adult Female; not about Children=Wildaan 4:75

    • @abdar-rahman6965
      @abdar-rahman6965 Місяць тому

      Sunni/Shia Jurists tamper 65:4 in order to reconcile their fabricated hadith with Quran; the forged hadith which tells that Aisha RA was married at age six

  • @kevindsz
    @kevindsz Місяць тому +2

    What a beautiful religion

  • @user-xt4nm4hw9i
    @user-xt4nm4hw9i Місяць тому +1

    Engineer Sahab ki video bi ha... Where he throws the same point of view as you.

  • @majiskani
    @majiskani Місяць тому +5

    Your Opinion and the Scholars' opinion you mentioned at the end of the video seem more logical and acceptable. Besides that, the Quran is a universal book for the whole of humanity till the day of judgment. Earlier Scholars gave their opinions based on the knowledge available at that time, so there are chances that they might be wrong.

  • @2AN3M
    @2AN3M Місяць тому +2

    Taimur sahab you need to be as honest as with the hijab series you did. Do your research and see what was the custom of those days and what is written in the tafseers and fiqh as well as non religious writings. I am sure you will change your mind. Or maybe you want to pacify your religious followers too.

  • @user-uk1zu8ll1l
    @user-uk1zu8ll1l Місяць тому +1

    If we see other verses of Koran regarding marriage then Mr Hijab n Modoodi sab understanding on marrying a child of whatever age doesnt seem correct n in line with Koran. Their main problem is that they interpret Koran n deen with hadiath lens without questioning hadiths. I agree there can be medical reasons for not menstruation as well menstruration starting age range varies from 9 to 18 yrs in different cultures n individuals depending on many things. Another thing to be considered is the case of divorcing someone within few days after marriage say in two three days ( not so uncommon) n she hasnt menstrurated ever after marriage.
    It is utmost important to understand female gender as not sub human being with no rights will n superior goals. Allaha generally address both genders togather. Marriage is not a mean of men sexual gratification n abuse but hv much larger role in mutual supportive championionship n growth.

  • @syedabdulhaq1994
    @syedabdulhaq1994 Місяць тому +4

    Sir your view is on point and its not something new.
    Ghamidi sahab ka bhi yehi view hai unki apni tafseer Al Bayan mein k yahan baat un larhkiyon ko ho rahi hai jinko periods nahi aye bawajood puberty hit karnay k. Normally girls get their first periods about 1-3 years after hitting puberty (first the breasts grow, body hair starts growing, body shape starts changing and periods are usually the last to come)

  • @samamahussain6184
    @samamahussain6184 Місяць тому +1

    Yeah, may be he's right but why this guy only point outs Dr Israr and Moudodi's mistakes they're all human there is a possibility of mistakes. The problem is somewhere else and we all know that Dr. Shb.

  • @qazizubair2475
    @qazizubair2475 Місяць тому

    You are not reading the full tafhim of this ayah. Just before the explanation you have read, Maududi sahb clearly states that not being on menstruation can be due to delayed puberty, less age or not being able to menstruate entirely. But you just quoted the explanation which you wanted to make people deluded.

  • @bunny827
    @bunny827 Місяць тому +1

    until u start doubting your imaan( nawazu billah) ,,plz go through the tafsir by dr israr ( sura Talaq 65) it is on UA-cam....
    Also beautiful explanation given by Prof .zeki bayraktar ..do check that........

  • @mynamesjeff1453
    @mynamesjeff1453 Місяць тому +2

    This is an issue of dispute among scholars but the vast majority agree that it refers to young girls. Allah knows best

    • @OnlineEarningOasis
      @OnlineEarningOasis Місяць тому

      Who are scholars to decide anything? Did Allah grant them permission to do so? Quran is very clear about it, why are so you lazy to read and understand it, instead you have subcontracted your deen to mullahs, let them make what ever ridiculous decisions they make and we will just follow them blindly like sheep, straight into hell.

  • @lordtaseen2947
    @lordtaseen2947 Місяць тому +1

    If you properly establish that being Muslim means following and EMULATING the prophet then these matters become very clear.
    The early Muslims understood the idea of EMULATING properly. The places where Muslims disagreed on what is to be emulated were places of ikhtilaf. If you can prove your understanding from the pool of ikhtilafi scholarly opinions, by just one scholar who you can trace back to the time of the tabiun or the taba tabiun then I will readily agree with you.
    Otherwise, you should agree with me. No one can bring along any idea 1500 years after prophet and claim that his idea is the proper emulation of the prophetic ways.

  • @danishkalwar5926
    @danishkalwar5926 Місяць тому +1

    Please read mafhoom alquran authored by mr ghulam ahmad parwaiz in that regard.this will give you rationale and reasoning based view on above mentioned topic.

  • @mfvohra101
    @mfvohra101 Місяць тому +2

    It’s a literature issue!

  • @ummer666
    @ummer666 Місяць тому +1

    Le bhi li or Dard bhi ni honay dia ❤

  • @aqilali5821
    @aqilali5821 29 днів тому

    That argument is pretty futile. Where does Quran say don't eat dogs? There are things that Allah knows are quite evident and what can cause confusion and guidance is given in only those aspects which do so. Amr bil maroof is what then? Can it only be derived from the ahadith?

  • @zubairzahid1854
    @zubairzahid1854 Місяць тому +1

    Hijab is not an Alam and any of his words should not be accepted without confirmation from qualified Alam and not so called scholars like Jilani

  • @parhloyaar
    @parhloyaar Місяць тому +3

    Enka Islam parhky Islam sia Dil oth jata hai.

    • @gentleman7270
      @gentleman7270 Місяць тому +5

      Abe o Bhai ek short clip Dekhi hai tune, you don't know the real narrative you can't have S** with a pre pubercent girls, khud padhliya Karo phele bro fhir baat Kiya Karo

    • @parhloyaar
      @parhloyaar Місяць тому

      @@gentleman7270 parhkyy hi likhaa hai or aghy Waly bandy kai bbi parhky hi post ki hai behtr hai Tum parhloo

    • @gentleman7270
      @gentleman7270 Місяць тому +1

      @@parhloyaar mere ko bhi dikha do pre pubercent se sex kr sakte hai ye classical sources se dikha do me manjaoga

    • @LoneWolf-ll3we
      @LoneWolf-ll3we Місяць тому

      ​@@gentleman7270 ye jahil hn saare
      Ab taimur jesa shakhs bhi khud ko quran ka muffassir samajh raha hn jisko arabi me alif aur baa nahi ata aur jiski saari zindagi islam dushmani me guzri ho

  • @rootsquare7907
    @rootsquare7907 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for reforming islam,‌ Prophet had wife at 6 and 9 is intercouse we know for sure, so this need to be reformed. so what is explaination? can any one answer or justify. do not give any other age as it is confirmed.

    • @kamranhumayun3536
      @kamranhumayun3536 Місяць тому

      They dont have am argument for this. All they would say she was not 6/9 which is flase as she was 6/9 as by al bukhari 5135.
      And these type of people think only there paradigm is right. Bro go study history

    • @mumin9436
      @mumin9436 Місяць тому

      if its confirmed , then how did the difference of opinion arise , cos there always have been scholars who understood the age to be around 16-18 and the explanation is given by them is that Aysha (ra) narrating hadith about year of their marriage and an event (i dont remember exactly ,but u can find it in the explanation given by the those disagreeing scholars) calculating they get Aysha (ra) age to be around 16 . Also what ive felt is that arabs in those times never counted their ages like we do today. they always gave a rough estimate referencing different major events that happened . so even if thr hadith says 9 , it cud have been different . another example is Khadija (ra) being 40 when marrying prophet . she had 3 children with prophet . do u really think a women after 40 can give birth to 3 at diff ages ? many women cant have kids after 40 cos of menopause

    • @kamranhumayun3536
      @kamranhumayun3536 Місяць тому

      @@mumin9436 There was no differnace of oppinion until recently and even that is by so called "scholars" on the internet, on ground reality is different they are trying to comply with the gora propaganda.
      I think you may be refering to that yaqeen article highly sus. They only do mental gymnastics
      And about khadijah its possible to give birth after age of 40, not impossible.
      But ironically if you look deep there is a slight differance in age of Hazrat Khadijah RA wheather she has 40 or 28. But i have to check the sources of her age again.
      And when you say they cant measure time you are thinking they were dumb back then and now humans are smart. They still calculated the years through moon and there was also christian calender (dont know if it was used in the arabia) but there was system of checking dates because there was hajj so on and so forth.
      And i would recommend instead of random guy in youtube search some fatwa or somethingin internet.

    • @rootsquare7907
      @rootsquare7907 Місяць тому

      @@kamranhumayun3536 you are right, I can give reference of bukhari and all the scholars till 20th century. Including all fikh and early scholars with most credibility, then theses sugar coating western born scholar who wants to hide things. This 16-18 argument is recent one when questioned were raised by non Muslims, we Muslim felt shame and to justify and make Muslim satisfy it was conjured. If you don’t believe bukhari then no further argument.
      Well this is just one
      There is sex slave women,
      Slavery
      There is pseudo science of embryology, splitting of moon.
      There is marrying wife of adopted son’s wife.
      There is wife beating allowed, with incident how it came about in bukhari.
      There are share of women in property
      100s of more things, please read. I am sorry but I read all Hadith book and Quran. And scholars view. Either you accept it’s all fine even in modern world we consider them wrong or you are not Muslim. Simple as that.

    • @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193
      @KnowledgeWalaTheWarner193 Місяць тому +1

      @@rootsquare7907 listen to me your whole arguments that we already exposed!! You r getting. Wrong information from islamophobs! In islam s€x slavery is haram according to sureh Noor ayat33 ! Go read definition of s€x slavery in which it is mentioned that doing prostitution with slave girl is called s€x slavery but in islam Quran 24:33 it is mentioned that prostitution is prohibited,so don't use s€x.slavery word because it is haram in islam and in that verse it has mukatba contract in which it is compulsory if right hand possess want !! And after doing that contract girl sexual relationship is not allowed and those who does not want to merry with her master then she got some time and she go to work and earn some money give her master and then she is free and if she does not have goodness means if she does not have skill for work then she go to muslims and collect zakat money and give to their master and then she is free !so it gives consent of girl ok! And go see muwatta imam Malik 1471 in which it is mentioned that selling of ummul walad is prohibited! And it is mentioned in sahih bukhari 2229 and it gives prohibition of selling of slaves girl if she go to s€xual relationship! Ok! !!! !!! !!!!! !!!!

  • @qasimjan4542
    @qasimjan4542 Місяць тому +1

    Dear Dr Taimur_Laal.
    In the Quran, various words are used for negation, such as لا, لن, ما, and one of them is لم. This word is also used in Surah Ikhlas, specifically in the verse "لم يلد ولم يولد." It indicates something that didn't happen in the past, isn't happening now, and won't happen in the future.
    In this context, it refers to women who don't menstruate due to Illness. Based on my limited knowledge, it doesn't refer to young girls.
    If it refers to a young girl, then "لن" is used before the verb. "لن" is used when something did not happen now but might be possible in the future.
    Learning Arabic grammar is very important for translating the Quran into other languages. I have some knowledge of Arabic grammar. Despite that, I made an effort. If you have any questions, feel free to call me.
    Finally, if you genuinely want to understand the Quran, I suggest studying Arabic grammar in-depth and also listening to Professor Jefferey Lang.
    [Link to Professor Jefferey Lang's lecture: ua-cam.com/video/ifllgTA2pmY/v-deo.html]
    Best Regards,
    Dr. Qasim

    • @Taimur_Laal
      @Taimur_Laal  Місяць тому +3

      I agree with you. Sadly the vast majority of the Tafsir don’t agree with us in this regard. But I think you are right.

    • @MuhammadTariq23200
      @MuhammadTariq23200 Місяць тому

      Because there are only 4-5 original tafaseer rest are copy pasted​@@Taimur_Laal

    • @alsufa1985
      @alsufa1985 Місяць тому

      ​​@@Taimur_Laal sir please watch mufti Yasir Nadeem Al wajidi he has explained it really very well
      Here is the link
      ua-cam.com/video/r4of1PLi6Ro/v-deo.htmlsi=RhmXGBsJKBvSXUZx
      Here is some hints
      (4:6) Test the orphans until
      they reach the age of marriage, and then if you find them mature of mind hand over to them their property, and do not eat it up by either spending extravagantly or in haste, fearing that they would grow up (and claim it).

    • @alsufa1985
      @alsufa1985 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Taimur_Laal Sir please watch it it would be very helpful 😊

  • @Nat-Con
    @Nat-Con Місяць тому +1

    What a complicated and politically correct religion. It is unlike Christianity which does not want to enforce rules, commandments or edicts, it only demands that u accept Jesus as u're lord.

  • @ameerhamzaibrahim5047
    @ameerhamzaibrahim5047 Місяць тому +1

    As Sahil Adeem says, the movement has started, the islamist voices is knocking on doors of Secularists like never before ❤❤

    • @uzone8571
      @uzone8571 Місяць тому

      Idk why such nutshell exist in England. Let us send them in Afghanistan.