I know I should have listened to the original first, but I never had issues with Nightwish arena, I use their videos for live performances. I mainly wanted subtitles. I love you all.
Bruce ! it's been a bit since your last NW reaction ! bro your still missing some amazing songs yet like : Ghost River, Song of MySelf ,Bless The Child, Amaranth,Last Ride Of The Day : all from Wacken 2013 From Wembley 2015: 7 Days to The Wolves,Weak Fantasy,Poet and The Pendulum, Buenos Aires 2018 : Dead Boys Poem,Slaying The Dreamer,10th Man Down Just to name a few !
Floors voice in the chorus is supposed to blend with the choir, she's a part of them. Tuomas spent months on mixing this album to get it exactly how he wanted us to hear it. "Fixing" the mix and uploading it as a "better" version is just incredibly disrespectfull. This version sounds weird.
And the remix took out some of the sounds, like the winding of the owl's head, the roar of the "arm dragon" on Floor, etc. The "remix' made it more bland, IMO. Shameful.
Everything Tuomas does in music composition is VERY intentional...for someone to ASSUME they know better than the Metal Mozart himself is just asinine.
Yes, Troy. From the water to the land and back to the water where it all began. The cycle continues. The mix puts her more in the mix which adds a haunting almost ghostly effect to this song. It was mixed that way as part of the concept of the song. Welcome back Bruce!
Hello Bruce, i think i listened to this amazing performance over 45 times now. Thanks for your reaction, i really loved it, see you at the next one, greetings from the Netherlands!!!!!
How can ANY real NW fan question Tuomas' idea for the song and how it sounds...he MEANT it to sound the way it does. This remix took out many of the interesting sounds...the winding of the owl's head, the roar of the dragon on Floor's shoulder, etc. What a shame.
Welcome back my friend, to the show that never ends. Loved this reaction! Some of the bands that are 'in your lane' have recently released some great content. I'll enjoy watching you catch up. Thanks!
Yes, it was Troy singing at the end. Floor's voice lower in the mix was intentional, drummer Kai Hahto confirmed this. She is supposed to be part of the chorus. A chorus of ancestors maybe. Tuomas does everything for a reason. Kudos to Nightwish Arena for the lyric subtitles and 4k. Epic video though. Seen this several dozen times, and still finding details. From the upcoming album Yesterwynde, due out Sep 20. It's the 3rd in a trilogy of albums, along with Endless Forms Most Beautiful and Human:II:Nature, all dealing with life, science, evolution, etc. They didn't know what to call this album, how to express it in words, so they made up a word. Troy came up with Yesterwynde. You've done 2 from EFMB (Shudder Before the Beautiful and yours is an Empty Hope) and none from Human nature. When you come back to NW, and to get a better idea of the themes of the trilogy, check out "Weak Fantasy" and the 21 minute "The Greatest Show On Earth", both EFMB, and both played at Tampere 2015 or Wembley 2015. "Noise" is a good start on Human Nature, that has a great music video, lives from Deichbrand and Hellfest 2022.
Thanks as always!! I might have fumbled using nw arena but the subtitles were the main reason haha. As you know I’m a lyric junky! Much more to come, thanks Chris you are my right hand man!’
Well Nightwish dont dissapoint "do you fell the ghost energy song" I listened to this song maybe 50 times by now, and it is one i like to listen to with my headphones or without, its really a good song, when it can work so to me. Some say Floors voice is low in the mix, and i can agree its hard to get all words she sing, but if you look at it soundwise it sounds amazing!! and after a listen or 2, you know most of lyrics, and its no problem at all, its done fully on purpose for the sound experince of it.. cant wait for rest of album!! Yesterwynde is the opening track on new album, i belive its only like a intro, its a little over 2 min long, #2 on album then is a almost 10 min song, thats proberly another epic!! #3 is where i think they bring in a heavy track, and this Perfume of the timeless is #5.. so i think its gonna be a good mix of heavy songs, Epics, and maybe a full balled.. Perfume of the timeless, well its almonst a ghost energy song right, telling all these ancestors is perfume around in a timeless world, being around you still, also a message that your existens matters!! i feel tuomas also put in a little message that mankind could do better still, Einstein turn to ape.. The title of the album is a word made by band member Troy Donockley, which Holopainen describes as the feeling of time, history, memory, and being connected to past generation, who have "all had their lives, their ups and downs, and they don't exist anymore, except as atoms scattered all over the universe. And we're going to be in that state pretty soon as well. So that should give you something to think about." Holopainen has described the album as being about humanism, history, and the inspiration thereof, and that outlook of the album is positive and optimistic ] Track listing All tracks are written by Tuomas Holopainen. Yesterwynde track listingNo. Title Length 1. "Yesterwynde" 2:43 2. "An Ocean of Strange Islands" 9:26 3. "The Antikythera Mechanism" 5:55 4. "The Day of..." 4:34 5. "Perfume of the Timeless" 8:11 6. "Sway" 4:23 7. "The Children of 'Ata" 5:37 8. "Something Whispered Follow Me" 6:39 9. "Spider Silk" 6:26 10. "Hiraeth" 6:14 11. "The Weave" 4:53 12. "Lanternlight" 6:06 Total length: 71:07
Always the original first! There are some artistical choises, but they are valid. I've heard the Nightwish arena mixes. They are maybe better for the Floorlover like l am. Hell, if l could l'll do a mix, where only she is belting her lungs out all the time. But then again, l'm not an artist, nor the composer or the band leader. I'm nobody here - like you. So it's byebye.
@@TheMindofBruce It's only in the chorus. If you don't want to Floor dominate in the choir of ancestors. Then rise the whole choir a bit, so we can hear the words.
@@pekkakarppinen1608 ya I’m a nobody to, I like Nightwish arenas stuff especially the live ones, they do a really good job mastering the live stuff, so I figured they would do a good job here to.
@@TheMindofBruce I was one of the first (in the heat of the moment) who asked the remastering (when l noticed the "flaw" when hearing firstly the audio). But then l've watched about 40 reactions to the original, and l kinda regret. The original is done by much much better professionals than we are, and it's their choice. It's maybe not the best we like, but it's the original. They have seen the feedback, which is about 50/50. They have the time to make adjustments for the album version (most probably not). So, l decided not to watch alternative versions, because it would be endless swamp to go. All'n all, it'a a great song and most likely a award winning video.
@@pekkakarppinen1608 I agree. Thanks so much for the comments and your opinion. I definitely agree it should be an award winning video, it was beautiful. I don’t usually do nightwish music video reactions because I prefer listening to their live stuff, but I’ll probably just do original stuff first. I was reading the Reddit comments before doing the reaction and I decided to use the arenas, but I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of hate for it. I’m not perfect hehe I’m just a nobody 🤣🤘🤘
You should also react to Simone Simons(from epica) she released a single called Aeterna, that will be on her upcoming solo album, Arjen lucassen(from Ayreon) composed the music, and its a great official video.. its worth checking out
This version doesn’t sound weird. I guess some people are upset they can hear Floor too well. I would also guess they were always disappointed that Floor’s voice was raised in the mix since she joined NW (compared to mixing Tarja’s voice) and not just on this song.🤷♂️
I think the weird feeling comes from the absence of the sound effects. These enhance the visual experience but detract from the audio. Floor sounds fine to me in the audio version on Apple Music.
I know I should have listened to the original first, but I never had issues with Nightwish arena, I use their videos for live performances. I mainly wanted subtitles. I love you all.
I like this fixed version better.
@@Pymander Me too
Bruce ! it's been a bit since your last NW reaction ! bro your still missing some amazing songs yet like : Ghost River, Song of MySelf ,Bless The Child, Amaranth,Last Ride Of The Day : all from Wacken 2013
From Wembley 2015: 7 Days to The Wolves,Weak Fantasy,Poet and The Pendulum,
Buenos Aires 2018 : Dead Boys Poem,Slaying The Dreamer,10th Man Down
Just to name a few !
@@nicod1361 i concur!
@@nicod1361 gonna check those out!
Floors voice in the chorus is supposed to blend with the choir, she's a part of them. Tuomas spent months on mixing this album to get it exactly how he wanted us to hear it. "Fixing" the mix and uploading it as a "better" version is just incredibly disrespectfull. This version sounds weird.
I concur
And the remix took out some of the sounds, like the winding of the owl's head, the roar of the "arm dragon" on Floor, etc. The "remix' made it more bland, IMO. Shameful.
🤗🍒🤘🏻 well done Bruce It is true that you miss a lot of effects in this song, so it is better to go with the original
My guess would have been listen to the original one as Floors blend with the choir was intentional.
Ya Chris mentioned that.
Everything Tuomas does in music composition is VERY intentional...for someone to ASSUME they know better than the Metal Mozart himself is just asinine.
Yeah, should always go for the original as that's how it was ment. This is just weird...
Yes, Troy. From the water to the land and back to the water where it all began. The cycle continues. The mix puts her more in the mix which adds a haunting almost ghostly effect to this song. It was mixed that way as part of the concept of the song. Welcome back Bruce!
Thanks for the comment, glad to be back I missed yall!! 🤘🤘
Hello Bruce, i think i listened to this amazing performance over 45 times now. Thanks for your reaction, i really loved it, see you at the next one, greetings from the Netherlands!!!!!
So good!
Floor is supposed to be part of the choire (ancestors). Dissing the mix is just stupid.
How can ANY real NW fan question Tuomas' idea for the song and how it sounds...he MEANT it to sound the way it does. This remix took out many of the interesting sounds...the winding of the owl's head, the roar of the dragon on Floor's shoulder, etc. What a shame.
This is not the same song, not the same impact....
Hello my brother. Fantastic reaction as always. Well done!!
Hey dude long time!! Hope all is well!
Welcome back, thanks for the reaction
You got it! And thanks!
Its an incredible experience. 😊
It really is!
Welcome back my friend, to the show that never ends. Loved this reaction! Some of the bands that are 'in your lane' have recently released some great content. I'll enjoy watching you catch up. Thanks!
Thanks Bob! Let’s get it!! 🤘
Yes, it was Troy singing at the end.
Floor's voice lower in the mix was intentional, drummer Kai Hahto confirmed this. She is supposed to be part of the chorus. A chorus of ancestors maybe. Tuomas does everything for a reason. Kudos to Nightwish Arena for the lyric subtitles and 4k.
Epic video though. Seen this several dozen times, and still finding details. From the upcoming album Yesterwynde, due out Sep 20. It's the 3rd in a trilogy of albums, along with Endless Forms Most Beautiful and Human:II:Nature, all dealing with life, science, evolution, etc. They didn't know what to call this album, how to express it in words, so they made up a word. Troy came up with Yesterwynde.
You've done 2 from EFMB (Shudder Before the Beautiful and yours is an Empty Hope) and none from Human nature. When you come back to NW, and to get a better idea of the themes of the trilogy, check out "Weak Fantasy" and the 21 minute "The Greatest Show On Earth", both EFMB, and both played at Tampere 2015 or Wembley 2015. "Noise" is a good start on Human Nature, that has a great music video, lives from Deichbrand and Hellfest 2022.
Thanks as always!! I might have fumbled using nw arena but the subtitles were the main reason haha. As you know I’m a lyric junky! Much more to come, thanks Chris you are my right hand man!’
@@TheMindofBruce Don't worry about it, the difference isn't that great. You'll hear that when you check out the original.
@@chriso6719 ya I checked it out, could hardly hear the difference.
How appropriate that you’re wearing a shirt that says Descendants. 💯
I didn’t even realize that till someone mentioned it lll, what a coincidence
Well Nightwish dont dissapoint "do you fell the ghost energy song"
I listened to this song maybe 50 times by now, and it is one i like to listen to with my headphones or without, its really a good song, when it can work so to me.
Some say Floors voice is low in the mix, and i can agree its hard to get all words she sing, but if you look at it soundwise it sounds amazing!! and after a listen or 2, you know most of lyrics, and its no problem at all, its done fully on purpose for the sound experince of it..
cant wait for rest of album!!
Yesterwynde is the opening track on new album, i belive its only like a intro, its a little over 2 min long, #2 on album then is a almost 10 min song, thats proberly another epic!! #3 is where i think they bring in a heavy track, and this Perfume of the timeless is #5.. so i think its gonna be a good mix of heavy songs, Epics, and maybe a full balled..
Perfume of the timeless, well its almonst a ghost energy song right, telling all these ancestors is perfume around in a timeless world, being around you still, also a message that your existens matters!! i feel tuomas also put in a little message that mankind could do better still, Einstein turn to ape..
The title of the album is a word made by band member Troy Donockley, which Holopainen describes as the feeling of time, history, memory, and being connected to past generation, who have "all had their lives, their ups and downs, and they don't exist anymore, except as atoms scattered all over the universe. And we're going to be in that state pretty soon as well. So that should give you something to think about."
Holopainen has described the album as being about humanism, history, and the inspiration thereof, and that outlook of the album is positive and optimistic ]
Track listing
All tracks are written by Tuomas Holopainen.
Yesterwynde track listingNo. Title Length
1. "Yesterwynde" 2:43
2. "An Ocean of Strange Islands" 9:26
3. "The Antikythera Mechanism" 5:55
4. "The Day of..." 4:34
5. "Perfume of the Timeless" 8:11
6. "Sway" 4:23
7. "The Children of 'Ata" 5:37
8. "Something Whispered Follow Me" 6:39
9. "Spider Silk" 6:26
10. "Hiraeth" 6:14
11. "The Weave" 4:53
12. "Lanternlight" 6:06
Total length: 71:07
Thank you for this!!! And yes I sure felt the ghosts!!
I stopped watching, People should not mess with original video's, trust that those video's are the way the creators intended them to be. Sorry.
Me too, I also stopped watching after two or three minutes ... Prefer the amazing original ...
I prefer the original. This sounds weird...
DEFINATELY. Sounds homogenized.
I've listened to the original about 30 times and in this version the voices don't blend.
Always the original first! There are some artistical choises, but they are valid. I've heard the Nightwish arena mixes. They are maybe better for the Floorlover like l am. Hell, if l could l'll do a mix, where only she is belting her lungs out all the time. But then again, l'm not an artist, nor the composer or the band leader. I'm nobody here - like you. So it's byebye.
I mainly did it for the subtitles. I listened to the original it’s hardly noticeable the elevation in floors vocals. Sorry to see you go.
@@TheMindofBruce It's only in the chorus. If you don't want to Floor dominate in the choir of ancestors. Then rise the whole choir a bit, so we can hear the words.
@@pekkakarppinen1608 ya I’m a nobody to, I like Nightwish arenas stuff especially the live ones, they do a really good job mastering the live stuff, so I figured they would do a good job here to.
@@TheMindofBruce I was one of the first (in the heat of the moment) who asked the remastering (when l noticed the "flaw" when hearing firstly the audio). But then l've watched about 40 reactions to the original, and l kinda regret. The original is done by much much better professionals than we are, and it's their choice. It's maybe not the best we like, but it's the original. They have seen the feedback, which is about 50/50. They have the time to make adjustments for the album version (most probably not). So, l decided not to watch alternative versions, because it would be endless swamp to go. All'n all, it'a a great song and most likely a award winning video.
@@pekkakarppinen1608 I agree. Thanks so much for the comments and your opinion. I definitely agree it should be an award winning video, it was beautiful. I don’t usually do nightwish music video reactions because I prefer listening to their live stuff, but I’ll probably just do original stuff first. I was reading the Reddit comments before doing the reaction and I decided to use the arenas, but I’m sure I’m going to get a lot of hate for it. I’m not perfect hehe I’m just a nobody 🤣🤘🤘
and you wearing a Descendents shirt is nice coincidence...
Omg I didn’t even think of that. Holy crap lol
You should also react to Simone Simons(from epica) she released a single called Aeterna, that will be on her upcoming solo album, Arjen lucassen(from Ayreon) composed the music, and its a great official video.. its worth checking out
I will check it out, thanks!!
This song is not about me: i'm the nightmare of my ancesters
Maybe for the latest ancestors but there was probably ancestor looong time ago who actually would accept you. Ain't that amazing feeling?
@@lekalla yesssss!!! This!!
I was a nightmare for mine, but not anymore hehe
original is much better
This version doesn’t sound weird. I guess some people are upset they can hear Floor too well. I would also guess they were always disappointed that Floor’s voice was raised in the mix since she joined NW (compared to mixing Tarja’s voice) and not just on this song.🤷♂️
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I think the weird feeling comes from the absence of the sound effects. These enhance the visual experience but detract from the audio. Floor sounds fine to me in the audio version on Apple Music.
She is supposed to sound like that because she is part of a choir of ancestors. So disrespectful 🙄