Dune - Deleted Scene - Original Introduction

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  • Опубліковано 2 січ 2011
  • As originally scripted the start of Lynch's Dune would start with an introduction by the Fremen Reverend Mother Ramallo (Silvana Mangano).
    The full 6th draft script of Dune is available from www.duneinfo.com
    1. INT. ROCK LEDGE - SIETCH TABR - NIGHT
    BLACK
    FADE IN to the dark eyes of the mysterious face of the REVEREND MOTHER RAMALLO, who sits against smooth black rock. Her eyes are deep blue-within-blue and her skin is a haunting translucent white. Her voice ECHOES as if in a great cavern.
    REVEREND MOTHER RAMALLO
    We are the secret of the Universe.
    RESPONSE OF TWENTY THOUSAND VOICES
    Bi-la kaifa.
    REVEREND MOTHER RAMALLO
    We are the secret. We know of CHOAM in this
    Universe... Combine Honnete Ober Advancer
    Mercantiles... controlled by the Emperor
    Shaddam IV and all the Great Houses of the
    Landsraad. We know of CHOAM. Yet we are
    the secret. We know of the Bene Gesserit
    sisterhood... the ancient school of mental
    and physical training... the ones they call
    the witches... yet we are the secret.... We
    know of the Guild and the Navigator's power
    to fold space... their control over all
    inter-planetary travel.... We know they have
    the seeing eye. Yet we are the secret....
    The Bakka shall weep no more for there is
    now at work a higher power....
    RESPONSE OF TWENTY THOUSAND VOICES
    Bi-la kaifa.
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  • @jkhristian9603
    @jkhristian9603 Рік тому +27

    Lynch has recently said he might be willing to take another crack at Dune. A total 180 after years of disavowing it. We need to push for Lynch directors cut.

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 3 місяці тому +5

      And if that should not materialize, the Spicediver cut exists. And it is on UA-cam, for free no less. No matter what, we win. Bless the maker and his water.

    • @lancergt1000
      @lancergt1000 2 місяці тому

      He'll need _two_ movies this time

  • @tardis11111
    @tardis11111 2 роки тому +11

    Stagehand drops something audibly...director: "That's it, this is cut!"

  • @ferroxglideh5621
    @ferroxglideh5621 4 роки тому +54

    This scene of the oracle speaking to the Fremen captures the atmosphere, pacing , and the exotic tone of the original literary work by Frank Herbert. The central theme of Dune is the control of power, an eternal theme, and this scene illustrates where the wheel hits the road. It was (rightly?) cut from the final movie to alleviate the time constraints that Lynch was under at the time. In my opinion, this scene helps to vindicate the outrageous spending on the sets and costumes of his production, not to mention the faultless casting decisions / expenses.. Space folds, and I am there.
    Lynch was characteristically brave in attempting this subject matter, and was a victim of the times insofar as a miniseries would have been preferred to a matinee time-slot. DaIvid Lynch's Dune is like Conan the Barbarian having a Flash Gordon fever dream. I guess that this is the De Laurentiis touch.
    Thanks for posting this scene.

  • @MrMojoman1976
    @MrMojoman1976 3 роки тому +33

    If you thought the original beginning was cryptic...

    • @nonaurbizniz7440
      @nonaurbizniz7440 3 роки тому +2

      It all makes sense if you had read the books. Basically this movie is a big budget fan production made for fans which is why it mostly fell flat on those who didn't know of Dune.

    • @MrMojoman1976
      @MrMojoman1976 3 роки тому +2

      @@nonaurbizniz7440 it’s interesting with me . I initially saw the theatrical cut at age 8 and it was way over my head and I had no idea what it was about . 8 years later I taped the extended version off of tv and everything made a little more sense and stoked my curiosity enough to read the book . I then re-watched the theatrical version and found it a somewhat decent synopsis, but was amazed at how much from both the extended and book was left out of the story . They changed the Harkonnens from menacing power players into 2 dimensional cartoon villains complete with evil laughs ! I also didn’t care for the whole weirding module stuff . However , I loved the music by Toto and have the remastered soundtrack on vinyl

    • @nonaurbizniz7440
      @nonaurbizniz7440 3 роки тому +2

      @@MrMojoman1976 Well there is only so much you can do with a couple of hours especially with a book as incredibly detailed as Dune. The mini series was far more faithful due to the much longer run time but alas the set and character design left much to be desired. Hopefully the new dune movie nails it on both counts.

    • @MrMojoman1976
      @MrMojoman1976 3 роки тому +1

      @@nonaurbizniz7440 If given two movies, I’m confident the new movie will deliver. I actually do have the mini series and enjoy it, only issue is that it’s got French subtitles for the subtitles sequence that I can’t change translation on…

  • @leeskinner9627
    @leeskinner9627 3 роки тому +74

    Ramallo: We know of CHOAM
    Audience: CHOAM? What is that?
    Ramallo: The Combine Honette Ober Avancer Mercantiles
    Audience: Ohhh, got it! Clear as day.

    • @jwpetros7065
      @jwpetros7065 3 роки тому +8

      Nice one. This is similar to how I felt when Star Wars: Phantom Menace began and I was reading about taxation in the opening scroll!

    • @garyofnyc
      @garyofnyc 3 роки тому +7

      Still waiting for the CHOAM IPO.

    • @leeskinner9627
      @leeskinner9627 3 роки тому +6

      @@garyofnyc pfft, as if the Landsraad would allow that.

    • @jozseftoth9368
      @jozseftoth9368 3 роки тому +1

      Wow thx m8, i always tried to figure out, but never worked in english. (as in the book in my language its KHAFT) btw, which language is it? Bene Gesserit?

    • @rickg8015
      @rickg8015 3 роки тому +2

      Choam.. Shorthand for that Noam Chomksy guy..

  • @UlysseLaarwall
    @UlysseLaarwall 2 роки тому +4

    If you look in the background you can see Paul's cape from the final scene suspended on the wall

  • @kmbbmj5857
    @kmbbmj5857 3 роки тому +42

    As an intro to a movie, this would have had me jumping theaters. Only someone who had read the book would understand the intro, and someone who read the book wouldn't need it. Even as it was there were too many things in the movie that you had to know from the book for the scene to make sense. An opening needs to grab the audience and this would turn them away.

    • @captmack007
      @captmack007 2 роки тому +3

      Yep totally. Well said.

    • @peterp2153
      @peterp2153 6 місяців тому +1

      And wouldn’t this have come after the intro by Irulan that already covers some of this ground? Doing intros upon prologues upon etc etc is not a good sign for films.

  • @themagpie_1
    @themagpie_1 11 місяців тому +4

    this should of been a trailer..

  • @baronbattles4681
    @baronbattles4681 3 роки тому +30

    I once saw a more than six hour with commercials version of this Lynch film, it kept me up all night, evidently with all the deleted scenes, it was fantastic and I’ve never seen it repeated anywhere, all the extended versions now leave most of that material out. So Lynch shot a great deal more of the book than is available now. How sad it seems to be gone.

    • @alanjamesh.zamorano1677
      @alanjamesh.zamorano1677 3 роки тому +2

      Wow. Was that on TV? Or where did you saw it

    • @Man_of_Tomorrow
      @Man_of_Tomorrow 2 роки тому +10

      This is actually impossible. No 6 hour cut exists. Supposedly only around 5 hours was even filmed for an intentional 3 hour cut, making a 6 hour version impossible. At best you may have seen the longer TV cut.

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 2 роки тому +6

      The TV cut is known as the " Judas Booth/Alan Smithee" version because David Lynch had nothing to do with the editing of it and used those 2 names to show his displeasure of it.

    • @baronbattles4681
      @baronbattles4681 2 роки тому +2

      @@Man_of_Tomorrow you are right, that is why that night was exceptional and never repeated. Every bit of information says it doesn’t exist. And evidently what I saw no longer does. Sad really.

    • @Man_of_Tomorrow
      @Man_of_Tomorrow 2 роки тому +2

      @@baronbattles4681 So you're saying you saw a version of the film that everyone involved in the production says doesn't exist and would have to include an extra hour of material that was never filmed? I too love L.S.D.

  • @djfremen
    @djfremen Рік тому +14

    What Denis did with Chani exposition was perfectly executed. It makes her struggle personal, speaks of oppression of Harkonens. Much better than a Corrino or Fremen reverend mother speaking in abstract. Also: "Show us, don't tell us."

    • @ken__2526
      @ken__2526 4 місяці тому +3

      You're comparing two approaches to the same story, though: Villaneuve, like Nolan, wants to ground these big things into a reality, but Lynch is Lynch. Even if the studio meddled from pre-production to post, Lynch's preference for emotional logic, abstractions and spirituality is still present. At the end of the day, it's all about preferences: do you want something that feels real and awesome and epic (a proper Hollywood spectacle), or do you want an exotic, esoteric experience rooted in the most alien and spiritual aspects of the source material?

    • @ScrewyDriverTheMan
      @ScrewyDriverTheMan 4 місяці тому +2

      Wut???? Den Evil Nerf did NOTHING. His versions are absolute tosh

    • @funguy8801
      @funguy8801 4 місяці тому +6

      Denis' version is unoriginal and very generic young adult sci-fi flick. Looks good, but that's about it. It's inferior to Lynch's interpretation (even without final cut) in almost every crucial department. Villeneuve's movie has worse cast of actors, a less-original and uniquely talented director and a far inferior and less-memorable soundtrack.

    • @ScrewyDriverTheMan
      @ScrewyDriverTheMan 4 місяці тому +2

      @@funguy8801 👏👏👏👏👏✌👍

    • @spencerwilliams461
      @spencerwilliams461 4 місяці тому +3

      Dune 1 and 2 remakes are trash. Dune 1984 is the only great one.

  • @KokoRicky
    @KokoRicky 11 років тому +34

    More and more I wish Lynch had total creative control over "Dune." I love the movie dearly and have seen it many times, but it's a shame that the movie couldn't have say, been divided into 2 or even 3 parts the way a growing number of movies are today.

    • @CS-pg4go
      @CS-pg4go 3 місяці тому +1

      did you like dune part 2? :D

  • @kimchigerbil7437
    @kimchigerbil7437 8 років тому +75

    The Bene Gesserit fascinate me and i use their Litany Against Fear alot. They are my favorite charters in the Dune saga.Dune is way deeper than any science fiction book.

    • @JamesPawson
      @JamesPawson 7 років тому +4

      I like them too, but I like mentats more-- I use the Juice of Sapho mantra a lot (was not in book.)

    • @xbaxdark
      @xbaxdark 7 років тому +3

      An example of something the movie did right - quickly explaining sapho in a natural way, I think it's worthy of the books. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho the thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...

    • @aalb1873
      @aalb1873 5 років тому

      kimchi gerbil I prefer with some hair

    • @5ynthesizerpatel
      @5ynthesizerpatel 3 роки тому +6

      @@xbaxdark - it is by the juice of sapho my eyebrows acquire length and bushyness

    • @petertherepeatermustard3231
      @petertherepeatermustard3231 3 роки тому

      i thought you followed Baron Harkonen

  • @Reticuli
    @Reticuli Рік тому +3

    This is very awkward dialogue. There is a lot of footage, by the way, no one has ever seen and I'm not sure even exists in anymore. The tv-edit version includes a bunch of secondary backup takes of scenes that apparently no one bothered to destroy, not the original 'print takes' footage from the original assembly cuts.

  • @DarthRushy
    @DarthRushy 11 років тому +35

    Whoever says the Fremen lines in the background is creepy as hell.

    • @DavidJackRabbit
      @DavidJackRabbit 2 роки тому +2

      All they are saying mainly is "without asking how".

    • @TheStOne1
      @TheStOne1 3 місяці тому +1

      They're just going "amen"

  • @anasan00
    @anasan00 5 років тому +6

    Before give an opinion .. years ago I read the 6 BOOKS that compose DUNE. I hope this time the soundtrack suits better

  • @russream3732
    @russream3732 2 роки тому +3

    Need the UN-Cut version of Dune. All of these deleted scenes, wOw! They movíe would have been so much better - who cares the length.

  • @TRSmith-xb9dg
    @TRSmith-xb9dg 5 років тому +4

    if one can put ALL of Dune in one minute and thirty-four seconds... this is it. Bi-la kaifa! YA HYA CHOUHADA!

  • @ladyjatheist2763
    @ladyjatheist2763 2 роки тому +29

    really really glad they went with, "Know then that it is the year ten thousand one ninety one, the known universe is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam the Fourth... my father."

  • @RtB68
    @RtB68 3 роки тому +64

    ...Despite the critical panning the film got, Lynch nonetheless still got a lot of things right. This intro, however, was not one of them. Best left out. People who have read the book don’t need the exposition and the people who haven’t read the book wouldn’t understand a word of it.

    • @RtB68
      @RtB68 3 роки тому

      Black Pill ...Quite.

    • @grailchaser
      @grailchaser 3 роки тому +1

      I don't see what this "we are the secret" monologue has to do with the book, in any case.

    • @floodo1
      @floodo1 2 роки тому

      This.

    • @DevilMaster
      @DevilMaster Рік тому

      Exactly. This scene breaks the main rule in filmmaking: "show, don't tell".

    • @TheStOne1
      @TheStOne1 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DevilMasterit doesn't, she is saying the prophecy to the fremen, just doing her job any normal day in Arrakis... The final opening on the other hand is a total breaking of the "show, don't tell" rule, as Irulan is literally talking straight to the audience.

  • @RIXRADvidz
    @RIXRADvidz 3 роки тому +1

    how very Bene Gesserit, beware when you look into that place you dare not look, you will find ME staring back out at you

  • @danielh5159
    @danielh5159 11 місяців тому +1

    that was awesome!

  • @baronbattles4681
    @baronbattles4681 3 роки тому +1

    Yes, it ran almost all night. I’ve never seen that footage again

  • @kickliquid
    @kickliquid 11 років тому +86

    I think I'm one of the very few that actually likes the Lynch adaptation & thinks its almost perfect the way it is. The directing & cinematography lend to an expansive experience that I think very few could take on considering the massive nature of that universe
    I think it was panned by critics cause it was such a political & spiritual study of very heavy themes I dont think my people knew what they were getting into. Most people were still fawning over the action packed narrative of Star Wars

    • @raysullya.k.amassholehead817
      @raysullya.k.amassholehead817 6 років тому +6

      Null I think it's awesome I saw it at the theater when I was almost 9...

    • @viajantefuturo9116
      @viajantefuturo9116 4 роки тому +2

      same. i like that lynch didnt bother too much in wasting time explaining the dune terms. some find it confusing, i like it because it creates more space for the story to flow. also the atmosphere, costumes, dialogue really matches the vision i had when i read the book. its so immersive. its like dune for those who read the book. i'm pretty sure the denis version will be dune for those who didnt read the book unfortunately. my only problem with lynch's version is the cgi and some aspects of the final cut but well its not his fault. theres a fanedit uploaded here that improves the movie a lot.

    • @KAH5371
      @KAH5371 4 роки тому +2

      Null , I love this adaptation, and thought it was perfect, especially when they added the newer introduction. It’s one of my favorite films. I like it better than the book, which is great, too.

    • @judysmith-randle1558
      @judysmith-randle1558 3 роки тому +1

      Null..
      I wholeheartedly agree. I have most of the Dune novels. I have read several of them more than once. Epic.

    • @steveackerman4860
      @steveackerman4860 3 роки тому

      I agree. I understand how people not familiar with the story might feel a little lost, but there was so much that the movie got right. The costume designs were incredible - the Bene Gesserits, Space Guild Operator people,etc. The sound design was great - both in the dream sequences and I love the fact that Brian Eno was involved. The casting was spot on. I dont want to think of another actor playing Shadout Mapes, Princess Irulan, or Stilgar. All of these things added to the great world building that was created through this movie. It's one of my favorite movies as well.

  • @mindmesh7566
    @mindmesh7566 4 роки тому +3

    I thought this was a lost scene from Bela Lugosi’s Dracula..Snap!

  • @ismata3274
    @ismata3274 3 роки тому +8

    Good scene. Glad it was shot. Glad it was cut too. Good material to include in the dvd of the film as additional knowledge. Only bad thing was there were no dvd etc... back then.

    • @jasonharwood5515
      @jasonharwood5515 2 роки тому +1

      Watch the spicediver edition it's on UA-cam, you won't regret it

  • @chamindujanith6337
    @chamindujanith6337 3 місяці тому

    This should have been the scene after the opening credits. Not the intro. Great scene. Love the subtle zoom in

  • @VersusARCH
    @VersusARCH 3 роки тому +12

    Ed Wood would have approved of this intro.

    • @CeruleanFilms
      @CeruleanFilms 2 роки тому +1

      Beware... take care... BEWARE!!!

  • @scottfallon1
    @scottfallon1 3 роки тому +4

    Why wasn't this included? It all makes sense now!

  • @Jtronique
    @Jtronique 13 років тому +12

    I feel that watching this is actually a religious experience :-) So many thanks.

  • @germanicelt
    @germanicelt 8 років тому +18

    Needs background music to do it justice.

  • @hinhwood1629
    @hinhwood1629 3 місяці тому +2

    The movie should have cut out the internal dialogue bits. Movies should show not tell.

  • @guyphawkes
    @guyphawkes 12 років тому +12

    I have to say, Dune takes more from Reality, and the political social and spiritual understandings than any other collection of books. ITs just incredible, I was asked at a job interview, which is cooler, Star Trek , or Star Wars, I paused, and said Dune, (loaded question both camps were at war over that, so my answer WON ) its greater than any of them. I still think Baron Harkonen is a mix of Ted Kennedy and king Herod.

    • @tablescissors
      @tablescissors 3 роки тому +1

      What kind of interview was that?!

    • @guyphawkes
      @guyphawkes 3 роки тому +2

      @@tablescissors It was an interview at a telco backbone company in Boston area, hardcore tech. So, nerds galore.

  • @ferroxglideh5621
    @ferroxglideh5621 5 років тому +17

    This should not be watched as a deleted scene.
    This is the trailer that Lynch deserved.
    Silvana Mangano was so believable as Ramallo.
    The casting director of this film should get more statues.

    • @oheldenring6937
      @oheldenring6937 3 роки тому +2

      Nahhh compared to Denis casting this one is utterly terrible the only decent choice was Jessica and Chani’s character just finished the book then watched the movie. I’m a lynch fan too but holy shit this movie is god awful

    • @keithwalker5078
      @keithwalker5078 2 роки тому +1

      @@oheldenring6937 you couldn't be MORE WRONG. the Lynch cast is incomparable, brilliant and everyone but chani was perfect and even sean was good. The emperor's scene was perfect as well and denis's NOT including it let us know that this would be an awful terribly written screen play and no one would know the true plot.

    • @oheldenring6937
      @oheldenring6937 2 роки тому +2

      @@keithwalker5078 that’s why it’s universally known as a bad adaptation of the book and the new version was way better lol. I would hate to have such terrible taste, must suck

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому

      @@oheldenring6937 Thats an odd take, Chani is one of the poor casting choices IMO. But many characters were suberbly cast: Jessica, Leto, the Shadout Mapes, Giaus Helen Mohiam, Gurney Halleck, Princess Irulan, Liet Kynes, Romallo, Piter, even the Baron and the Beast Rabban are well casted (even though their performances are cartoonish). Villeneuv's casting was mostly pretty good but Jessica just doesnt convince me, Gurney is way too handsome, and both films flopped on casting the Emperor too old and making Hawatt fat for some reason. 🤷 Mostly his best casting was for Paul and Chani, Duncan, Rabban and the Baron is well cast for the way he changed the character, but probably not as the book is written (the book Baron is an oafish, egomaniacal pervert).

    • @jkhristian9603
      @jkhristian9603 Рік тому

      The Lynch version was wonderfully cast. And the family, the Atreides family, you could tell they cared about each other. I didn’t get that in the Villeneuve version. But he did do better with Duncan Idaho, but that may be just because Lynch only had him in there for five seconds.

  • @AllFirstHand
    @AllFirstHand 3 роки тому +1

    It does go on too long, I can see why it was cut.

  • @jkhristian9603
    @jkhristian9603 3 місяці тому

    I really enjoyed the spicediver cut but I still would like to see Lynch’s full vision in toto.

  • @AndyHoward
    @AndyHoward 13 років тому +7

    way too detailed and revealing to have it in the very beginning

  • @ferrisburgh802
    @ferrisburgh802 3 роки тому +1

    Based on the comments what really stands out is that it is impossible to please everyone so why even try.

  • @Alkonium
    @Alkonium 3 роки тому +7

    "We know of CHOAM"
    In universe, I'm pretty sure CHOAM is common knowledge.

    • @joeldelica8706
      @joeldelica8706 3 роки тому +3

      To the higher echelons of humanity, yes. You're forgetting at this time, the "known Universe" was Feudalistic.

  • @kitsuneokami2583
    @kitsuneokami2583 11 років тому +3

    Uh ... that would be YES!!! The most obvious reason (if you're aware of the Dune setting/universe buthave not read the books, or seen the 1984 film or the later television adaptaion) would be that the audience's response is in the "Fremen language", which Frank Herbert mostly devised by using Arabic.. although little bits of Hebrew pops in, now & then. "Bi-La Kaifa" = (translation) 'Amen'. Literally: Nothing further/no more need be explained, stated, or said. :)

  • @mmgreen31
    @mmgreen31 4 місяці тому

    This reminds me of an extended version of Bella Lugosi’s ‘Pull the string, pull the string, a story must be told!’

  • @lacedemonians
    @lacedemonians 11 років тому +7

    The book was brilliant. The movie seemed mediocre to me at the time - until I saw the attempts to do better - I now appreciate it more.

    • @JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg
      @JeanBaptisteEmanuelZorg 4 роки тому

      nonsense you debil, 2000 and the latter 2003 version both have the high grounds

  • @rickker20
    @rickker20 11 років тому +2

    This lady played the witch in the movie Ulysses with Kurt Douglas.

    • @anasan00
      @anasan00 5 років тому +3

      She is one of the better actresses ever

  • @shirleymcdonald2777
    @shirleymcdonald2777 3 роки тому

    I’m only now realising this is Dino Daugter omg.The voice

  • @juanpablonicolasgiancola4042
    @juanpablonicolasgiancola4042 5 років тому

    silvana manganooooooo..... en un ppapel bien difernteeeee

  • @sandroparigi73
    @sandroparigi73 6 років тому

    Silvana Mangano is the fucking Queen

  • @megavide0
    @megavide0 9 років тому +5

    بلا كيف
    >> The Arabic phrase bi-la kayfa (Arabic: بلا كيف) is roughly translated as "without asking how." It addresses the theological problem in Islam of how to deal with verses in the Qur'an that refer to God (Arabic: الله‎ Allāh) as having human characteristics such as the "Hand of God" or the "Face of God." These verses are problematic because they give God human characteristics, something which is contrary to the Islamic concept of God as being transcendental as evident in the Quranic verse "There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing."

    • @megavide0
      @megavide0 9 років тому +1

      >> All ‪#‎proofs‬ inevitably lead to propositions which have no proof! All things are known because we want to believe in them.

    • @Bruno-hd9qo
      @Bruno-hd9qo 7 років тому

      Manu Forster Yes, imo this entire scene sounded like a Qur'an recitation. Its rithm resembles this.

  • @purplepimpernel
    @purplepimpernel 12 років тому +1

    Something hardly seen in syfy writing are tales of society in long struggle. Dune saga is one; Foundation is another. Afterall any machine you can travel in an oxen cart in a fantasy, a spaceship, both are simply machines but sentient beings are far more important than a traveling machine. I have looked for types of syfy writing for some direction but I am either not looking in the right place or the writing genre doesn't have a description. Can anyone give me some sites to go to?

  • @ALBERTEINSTEIN777
    @ALBERTEINSTEIN777 12 років тому +1

    I BEGINING IS A VERY DELICATE THING....

  • @EasternMerchant
    @EasternMerchant 11 років тому +9

    Dune was very satirical of how we humans prize valuable natural resources to the point of conquest over other societies and then using religion, capitalism, communism, and any other inhuman and ruthless social structure as a way to justify our actions!

    • @vincer9960
      @vincer9960 6 років тому +2

      EasternMerchant Other than Western/Capitalist brainwashing, can you tell me how Communism is inhumane when it's goal is to achieve a utopian society which means a beautiful, equal life for all humans, for the planet, etc?

    • @scottbernard8824
      @scottbernard8824 6 років тому +3

      Communism=police state, intentional mass starvation, gulags, forced labor, etc. Some utopia.

    • @seanseanston
      @seanseanston 6 років тому

      But that wasn't real Gommunism all those times it was tried :DDDDDDD

    • @schaferhundschmidt1798
      @schaferhundschmidt1798 2 роки тому

      @@vincer9960 The end does not justify the means; Communism crushes souls, and equates humans with animals. And as far as Utopia? That lasts mere months, someone always connives to acquire totalitarian power For every Lenin, there's a Stalin right behind him, and a Beria ready to kill millions for him.

  • @smithdream
    @smithdream 2 роки тому

    PULL DER STRING!

  • @ALBERTEINSTEIN777
    @ALBERTEINSTEIN777 12 років тому

    @guyphawkes WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, DID YOU GET THE JOB ??

  • @satsumamoon
    @satsumamoon 12 років тому

    We, the humans, are the Kwisatz Haderach.

  • @johnnohobear8634
    @johnnohobear8634 3 роки тому +2

    This would have been a lousy intro. I barely understand her and I've read the book twice. Average moviegoer would have been lost. That said, Lynch should have put it in somewhere in the movie, because I remember how disjointed it felt when we were introduced to Ramallo only to have her die a few minutes later.

    • @ferrisburgh802
      @ferrisburgh802 3 роки тому

      The book and the movie are not for the average movie goer.

    • @aliensoup2420
      @aliensoup2420 Рік тому

      He did use a small portion of this in the original theatrical version, after the Atreides arrive on Arrakis. She declares Paul as "The Voice from the Outer World".

  • @JJMHigner
    @JJMHigner 5 років тому +1

    She and the robed attendants around her needed to be seen more anyways. I love their costumes but its too dark to really SEE anyone here anyways. They could have left this in for as short as it is, but it depends on where in the film it was supposed to fit. I liked her a lot. As an aside, the 2000 movie gave at least Shaddam IV more airtime. How does a guy who rules a universal empire get just a few lines in 1984?

    • @sephservant
      @sephservant 2 роки тому

      "Why would they want the duke's...*son* killed?"

  • @clearwavepro100
    @clearwavepro100 7 років тому +8

    "...we know of the choad, but we are the secret.." no? heard it wrong?

    • @DuneInfo
      @DuneInfo  7 років тому +4

      I've added closed captions, so you can turn those on, or read the Transcript under "...More".
      "We know of CHOAM."

    • @markcallender2854
      @markcallender2854 5 років тому +1

      CHOAM

    • @realitycheck1086
      @realitycheck1086 4 роки тому

      I think they are talking about Chomsky.... hell, even I know Chomsky. I am the secret.

  • @harry426
    @harry426 12 років тому

    Are you talking about the novel or the movie?

  • @francisdavis1271
    @francisdavis1271 3 роки тому +2

    The book has subtle pieces which are either left out of the movies or badly interpreted... Lynch badly did the "weirding way" and the sound device. I liked the neo-Victorian outfits. But both Sci-fi and Lynch had the Navigators "folding" space which had nothing to do with the book. A forgivable change but when you go FTL you can't SEE... so clairvoyance was needed.

  • @ghostofpambo6266
    @ghostofpambo6266 2 роки тому

    Wow. This would have been a mistake.

  • @janettaschuch3591
    @janettaschuch3591 6 років тому +12

    Perfect candidate to cut out. Glad it was left out, but why did anyone think it would have added anything?

  • @BarterTom
    @BarterTom 3 роки тому +1

    Go home film, you are drunk.

  • @cesarvidelac
    @cesarvidelac 13 років тому +3

    Praise the Reverend Mother. Here is a fedaykin with his kris ready to take the water of the one who stands against the righteous

    • @AaronHungwell
      @AaronHungwell 2 роки тому +1

      “The Righteous?!?!?” *Sting voice*

    • @cesarvidelac
      @cesarvidelac 2 роки тому

      @@AaronHungwell Long live Sting 😸

    • @TheStOne1
      @TheStOne1 3 місяці тому

      The Raichus

  • @halleck3
    @halleck3 11 років тому +4

    I agree. I don't know if ANYONE could make Dune into a great movie. There was just too much behind-the-scenes and in-characters'-minds stuff in it.

  • @tenorly
    @tenorly 4 роки тому +1

    Great accent. She sounds like Melanus.

  • @Argonova
    @Argonova 10 років тому +19

    This comment will probably draw dislikes but cutting this scene was the right choice. You *REALLY* have to have to read the book to have the slightest chance of following what she is saying, and in the end she really says nothing. This would only confuse the average movie viewer.

    • @IffyJottere
      @IffyJottere 5 років тому +1

      I agree, this would be a bad way to begin the movie, however well performed and rich in lore it may be for a minute and a half deleted scene

    • @TheVileOne
      @TheVileOne 3 роки тому

      I agree

    • @ferrisburgh802
      @ferrisburgh802 3 роки тому +1

      Sorry but I think the missed point here is that despite CHOAM, the Guild Navigators and the Emperor the Bene Gesserit are in the end the movers and shakers of everything that goes on despite what the other power players might think. In the end they were undone by their own machinations.

  • @blueshit199
    @blueshit199 4 місяці тому +1

    they tried so hard to overexplain everything as fast as possible instead of interweaving it into the plot as the movie went on. Like is CHOAM even in the movie? Why mention it as the very frist thing

  • @DarthRushy
    @DarthRushy 11 років тому +9

    I think it's best to say that both Dune adaptations are great movies, but neither really live up to the book.
    Both have mistakes.

  • @ronrendon
    @ronrendon 3 роки тому +3

    We are the Benny Jez o witts. And we know the secret to folding space & the mysterious uses of the butt plug.

  • @chadjohnsen5941
    @chadjohnsen5941 5 років тому +1

    Should have been in the movie but not the intro

  • @jozefbania
    @jozefbania 4 роки тому +2

    Missionaria Protectiva is very skillful.

  • @GenericInternetter
    @GenericInternetter 5 років тому +4

    wow... i'm glad they didn't use this scene. the actress still delivered it well, though.

  • @guyphawkes
    @guyphawkes 12 років тому

    @kdpflanders1 NEgative, someone actually thought Star Trek and Star Wars were more important, and .... well, I guess THEY were wrong.

  • @raysullya.k.amassholehead817
    @raysullya.k.amassholehead817 6 років тому +2

    Is she the Frehman reverend mother?

    • @DuneInfo
      @DuneInfo  6 років тому +2

      Yes, Reverend Mother Ramallo, played by Silvana Mangano, who was married to Dino De Laurentiis, and mother of Raffaella De Laurentiis, who produced Dune.

  • @barbamatteo
    @barbamatteo 2 роки тому +2

    Silvana Mangano, great italian actress, one of the most beautiful women ever lived.

  • @cdrain68
    @cdrain68 3 роки тому +2

    If anything this highlights how little David Lynch understood of the story

  • @j.d.buchanan4897
    @j.d.buchanan4897 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, I'm really glad they got rid of this intro

  • @artistjoh
    @artistjoh Рік тому +1

    Dune is depressing in that it depicts a future in which religion still exists. I dream of a time when humanity is freed from the shackles of those who wish to control people through asinine beliefs and magical sounding rituals. I dream of logic and rational thought being the ideal that people aspire to.

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese 2 місяці тому

      Logic and rationality are only a small subset of reality.

  • @MarkJohnson-dr4ws
    @MarkJohnson-dr4ws 2 роки тому +1

    Good that this scene was cut - nothing worse than a contrived way to tell story rather than letting it play out.

  • @robertarans243
    @robertarans243 6 років тому +2

    I love the Dune universe, but I gotta admit its best they didn't use this intro. this is way too much pouring onto the audience with zero context and would have lost the entire audience in just this minute and a half..

  • @Highinsight7
    @Highinsight7 3 роки тому +4

    Well... going with the other introduction... was a GOOD thing...

  • @Atreides22222
    @Atreides22222 4 роки тому +1

    I don't like this intro. For example, idk why a wild Sayyadina would be talking about the CHOAM or the Guild and the navigators.

    • @nickmonks9563
      @nickmonks9563 2 роки тому +1

      This is supposition on my part, but...I've always thought Ramallo was actually a Bene Gesserit planted by the Missionaria Protectiva to "prepare the way" for the Kwisatz Haderach. It's possible that there were many such agents spread across the universe in case the situation played out differently than it had. (I don't think the Sisterhood knew for sure that events would transpire on Arrakis.)

  • @ljg6979
    @ljg6979 3 роки тому +6

    Appreciate the love people feel for Lynch's version, but I gotta say:
    1. The source material was too vast and deep to be turned into a single film.
    2. You knew they were struggling to get the general audience educated enough to even understand the basics, when you walked in the theater and were handed a sheet of paper with definitions, characters, etc. When were the viewers supposed to study this? Just before the movie started?
    3. Far too much "inner dialogue". I'm sorry but the character's inner thoughts, continuously whispered or spoken did not work to advance the movie. It just came across as weird. As did the visions of water dripping, and other virtually psychedelic inwardly focused scenes.
    4. The choice to portray Alia Atreides, Paul's 4 year old sister by an 8 year old child actress, and overdub her voice to add a layer of "creapiness" was odd to say the least. In the theaters audience members laughed out loud at her scenes.
    5. Much of the pacing was odd. Several scenes had odd lapses between spoken dialogue and action.
    6. While much of the set and production design was original and inspired, some of it was just clunky. Weirding modules, and sheilds are good examples.

  • @dkoz8321
    @dkoz8321 2 роки тому

    I take the side of Thinking Machines. The only faction in DuneVerse that actually behaved rationally.

  • @aliensoup2420
    @aliensoup2420 Рік тому +1

    Say what? If you are going to force me to listen to gibberish at least let me look at Virginia Madsen.

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, staring at Vriginia Madsen was a pleasure.

  • @dashwhatchamakalit
    @dashwhatchamakalit 3 роки тому +1

    I prefer the 'animated' intro, honestly. This scene feels like it COULD have fit, later in the movie, before Paul captured. Or maybe before Jessica took over as the Fremen Reverend Mother.

    • @LordOfNihil
      @LordOfNihil 3 роки тому

      i believe that was the 4-hour tv cut. i love that intro even though that's probably my least favorite cut of the film.

  • @BatoNY65
    @BatoNY65 12 років тому +58

    Lousy intro. Glad they ditched it.

    • @Johnston212
      @Johnston212 3 роки тому +3

      I will say that it has some interesting references, like CHOAM and the landsrait. Unfortunately, they still insist on the folding space nonsense. The navigators...NAVIGATE...the ship. The Holtzman engine moves the ship.

    • @BarterTom
      @BarterTom 3 роки тому +2

      It’s an absolute joke. The opening of the original was a bit of an info dump which could make it difficult to follow but it made sense. I’ve read the book so I know what she’s talking about but it still barely makes sense. If this appeared at the start of the film, people would think “WHAT THE F*** ARE YOU ON ABOUT???”

    • @bent.5062
      @bent.5062 3 роки тому +1

      @@Johnston212 Yeah, I never read the books but I'm familiar with their general differences with the screen adaptations. This one always confused me in the Lynch film. Do, like, the engines run on spice? But it's also a drug? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
      Eventually I found out that the whole thing is about how there are no navigational computers post-Butlerian Jihad and that the navigators are just high as fuck and can calculate routes like a computer, but they need spice to do it. Which, uh, kinda makes more sense.
      But agreed. I love the Lynch film but I accept it's neither a great film nor a great representation of Herbert's novel. The Extended Edition version gave a pretty solid back-story, but this would have been a nightmare and turned off even more of the audience. Really cool artifact, though, and thanks to DuneInfo for uploading it!

    • @ioucounou
      @ioucounou 3 роки тому

      @JJ Bookman my favorite : first lines] Princess Irulan : A beginning is a very delicate time. Know then, that it is the year 10191. ...

  • @sobreaver
    @sobreaver 3 роки тому

    Glad they let go of the repetitive in the lyrics, the other one, he kept saying the secret of the water or something, so annoying.. we got the better version fortunately

  • @FuckinLittleDreamer
    @FuckinLittleDreamer 11 років тому

    is she fremen?:|

  • @thekiss2083
    @thekiss2083 3 місяці тому

    Who the hell is she talking to 😂

    • @TheStOne1
      @TheStOne1 3 місяці тому +1

      The fremen in the sietch Tabr

  • @wblake1
    @wblake1 10 років тому +3

    Who is she, Marina Abramovic? LOL

    • @BatDadx
      @BatDadx 8 років тому +2

      LOL Marina is a Gesserit

    • @Bysanthus
      @Bysanthus 8 років тому +4

      +miljenko1 Silvana Mangano - the wife of Dino De Laurentiis

    • @pyruvicac.id_
      @pyruvicac.id_ 7 років тому +1

      racist

    • @anasan00
      @anasan00 5 років тому +1

      Gosh! SILVANA MANGANO 💙

  • @tarakelleher9699
    @tarakelleher9699 Рік тому

    I still prefer lynch
    Denis is minimalist sci fi which is great for those that like that
    At least lynch showed folding space and made the baron make moves on little boys like in the book. Denis won’t show that

    • @aliensoup2420
      @aliensoup2420 Рік тому

      All 3 film versions are a mixed bag. I find good and bad in all of them.

  • @Joshhicks1186
    @Joshhicks1186 3 роки тому +1

    Melania trump wants the spice

  • @halleck3
    @halleck3 12 років тому +3

    I know why they didn't use this. Because it sucks. Let's be honest... Dune, the book, absolutely rocked. The movie was mediocre at best, laughable at its worst.

    • @nickmonks9563
      @nickmonks9563 2 роки тому +2

      The MiniSeries', though also flawed, came closest to getting it right...I just wish they looked better.

  • @CaptainFantastik1
    @CaptainFantastik1 2 роки тому

    Some of the deleted scenes were good, some of them (like this one) were terrible and deserve the cutting room floor.

  • @Kaghemsuha
    @Kaghemsuha 3 роки тому

    Silvana's English wasn't so good.

    • @peterquennellnyc
      @peterquennellnyc 3 роки тому

      Her mother was English. This may very well have been dubbed. Most Italian movies and now most American movies have the entire soundtrack created later.

  • @captmack007
    @captmack007 2 роки тому

    Wow that was bad, like a Saturday night live parody.

  • @frankberst9849
    @frankberst9849 6 років тому +8

    PLEASE get back to me if there is anyone out there who's all for a Dune remake/reboot as long as Donald Trump is cast as the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen LMFAO 😃

    • @punishedsnake6141
      @punishedsnake6141 6 років тому +2

      Frank Berst You cant be serious. More like Paul Atreides.

    • @frankberst9849
      @frankberst9849 6 років тому +3

      Oh I'm serious all right. He'd be perfect. I want to see him floating. And laughing maniacally.

    • @mrdeplorable6262
      @mrdeplorable6262 6 років тому +4

      "laughing maniacally", that would be Monica's boyfriends wife.

    • @litote9
      @litote9 6 років тому

      Hillary Clinton would be perfect as the worm.

    • @ismata3274
      @ismata3274 5 років тому

      baron of the books, dont think so, baron of the movies, maybe.

  • @jwpetros7065
    @jwpetros7065 3 роки тому +1

    Terrible! Shocking! This is why Star Wars worked and Dune didn't - the audience is lost after the first 30 seconds with all this garbled terminology ...

    • @nickmonks9563
      @nickmonks9563 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. It's also why no-one can understand one word of Lord of the Rings and the saga was a complete flop!

  • @aaron2709
    @aaron2709 3 роки тому

    Bla, bla, bla.

  • @starfox1
    @starfox1 3 роки тому

    ewww yucky

  • @MegaRaet
    @MegaRaet 6 років тому +4

    This is so cringey