The Baron Harkonnen: The Sister of Muad' Dib (part 13 of 14)

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  • @tomservo5347
    @tomservo5347 Рік тому +223

    Always liked Alia's playing along with the Emperor's roasting of the Baron. "Make him afraid some more!"

    • @swiftmatic
      @swiftmatic 4 місяці тому +15

      That line was actually in the novel 💯💢💥💫🤟

    • @ScorpiusZA.
      @ScorpiusZA. 4 місяці тому +5

      @@swiftmaticAnd it was delivered perfectly.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 4 місяці тому +2

      @@swiftmatic Many lines were.

  • @satan6548
    @satan6548 5 місяців тому +221

    After this scene, they rushed to get their costumes back to Halloween Headquarters in order to get their deposits back.

    • @etsequentia6765
      @etsequentia6765 4 місяці тому +15

      The costumes are just too distracting. Taking me right out of it. Instead of a biblical proportions epic, I see a bunch of people in a room talking like weirdoes.

    • @satan6548
      @satan6548 4 місяці тому +3

      @etsequentia6765 better wardrobes and lighting would have made a massive improvement in the series.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 4 місяці тому +9

      @@etsequentia6765 What do you mean? That's _Dune_ all over, and always has been!

    • @whatever3132
      @whatever3132 4 місяці тому +6

      Hey! You try making a miniseries with the budget of a dinner at Applebee's and then you can judge this production!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 4 місяці тому

      @@whatever3132 The budget was $20,000,000.00.

  • @chekhososlanian1942
    @chekhososlanian1942 3 місяці тому +42

    The shah of Iran absolutely killed this role

    • @anthonylewis6265
      @anthonylewis6265 2 місяці тому

      Sopranos reference😅 I Don’t see him?

    • @woodwyrm
      @woodwyrm 2 місяці тому +2

      which is doubly true considering that the emperor is referred to as Padishah, a Persian title lmao

  • @mspionage1743
    @mspionage1743 4 місяці тому +38

    "I am beyond your power"
    Cool line right there.

  • @WhenToastersAttack
    @WhenToastersAttack 2 роки тому +85

    Got to have dinner with Ian McNiece once. He is an immensely funny and classy fella.

    • @anathar8830
      @anathar8830 Рік тому +11

      I hope y’all went to an Italian restaurant, so when they bring out the breadsticks, he could say, “True Roman bread for true Romans.” 😂

    • @Scribe31us
      @Scribe31us Рік тому +3

      @@anathar8830 And he's a hugger!

    • @mikegrossberg8624
      @mikegrossberg8624 4 місяці тому +1

      Somehow, Ian McNiece as Baron Harkonnen just doesn't scan for me!
      He just doesn't have the FACE necessary for an evil s.o.b.!

    • @BarterTom
      @BarterTom 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mikegrossberg8624Makes him seem benevolent. When he isn’t.

    • @virgiliacoriolanus5093
      @virgiliacoriolanus5093 3 місяці тому +3

      I loved him as the announcer in Rome

  • @Mandelbrotmat
    @Mandelbrotmat 2 роки тому +1079

    best line I ever heard about this version was that it was "One of the greatest school plays ever filmed"......

    • @pyrolight7568
      @pyrolight7568 2 роки тому +62

      Have to give them credit though, Children of Dune was a ton better.

    • @zinniabees6191
      @zinniabees6191 2 роки тому +22

      Yeah. That seems just about perfectly said. I often wonder just how some actors are given roles or directed, or how the editing was done. Sometimes it is glaring that the funding for a project has been poorly used or there wasn’t enough to do it properly.

    • @Exodianecross1978
      @Exodianecross1978 2 роки тому +20

      It would be great if someone like Ian McNeice could be available for schoolplays!

    • @janakakumara3836
      @janakakumara3836 2 роки тому +4

      *Middle* school plays

    • @Mandelbrotmat
      @Mandelbrotmat 2 роки тому

      @@janakakumara3836 .......JESUS! :D

  • @Rgoid
    @Rgoid 5 років тому +314

    “Bring in that floating fat man, the Baron.”

    • @Tadashi2
      @Tadashi2 3 роки тому +15

      @Jaegar19Ultima I see what you did there :D
      I wonder if the Guild of Millers is still around in Dune.

    • @pplesandoranges
      @pplesandoranges 3 роки тому +19

      @@Tadashi2 The Spacing Guild uses only the finest melange - true Arrakeen spice for true Navigators.

    • @gregoryborton6598
      @gregoryborton6598 2 місяці тому +1

      @@pplesandoranges So that is where I recognize him from - was scratching my fucking head lmao.

  • @kev3d
    @kev3d 5 років тому +559

    I heard these Sardaukar make the best chocolate souffles in the Universe.

    • @bigsonny45
      @bigsonny45 5 років тому +7

      Hahahaha lololol! I needed that laugh this morning!

    • @dumoulin11
      @dumoulin11 5 років тому +17

      It's true, and they are TO DIE FOR!

    • @jamallabarge2665
      @jamallabarge2665 4 роки тому +4

      Yeap, fit for an Emperor of the Known Universe.

    • @omegacon4
      @omegacon4 4 роки тому +3

      My how things have gotten worse in the Dune universe.

    • @christ7381
      @christ7381 3 роки тому

      0⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰

  • @papillon1211
    @papillon1211 10 років тому +360

    Poor Alia. I mean to hear just about everyone call you an abomination your whole life must have been confusing, heartbreaking, alienating. No wonder she became a self-fulfilling prophecy. No one really allowed her to be anything else. Poor Alia.

    • @sylverserf2174
      @sylverserf2174 6 років тому +35

      But, she had the memories. She knew before birth she was abomination. She had plenty of time to say 'screw that."

    • @wolfkins
      @wolfkins 6 років тому +50

      Alia is my favorite "tragic" character in any novel. She had no control nor choice in what would eventually happen to her, her entire autonomy was stolen from her the moment Jessica selfishly took the Water of Life while pregnant. She was basically "possessed" by Other memory before she was even born so how could she have any way to change her fate?

    • @davester1432
      @davester1432 5 років тому +52

      @@wolfkins Before Jessica IGNORANTLY took the Water of Life. Jessica didn't really even know what she was doing when she took part in the ritual. She was basically following the path of least resistance, and trying to manipulate the "primitive" Fremen, because she and Paul were being hunted right after Leto I was killed.
      If the miniseries gave you the impression that Jessica was somehow being selfish when this happened, I suggest you read the books.

    • @wolfkins
      @wolfkins 5 років тому +18

      @@davester1432 I did read the books love. And I said selfishly because her primary motivation (in my opinion) was securing a place of power/safety with which to integrate her family. I don't doubt the love she had for her family but she was conditioned by the Bene Gesserit to be a tool for manipulation & I think it is reflected by her decision to drink the Water of Life, she was certainly given instruction concerning the ceremony before the Fremen would trust her enough to undergo it, I believe she did have some knowledge of the process, enough to realize that she was risking her life & her unborn baby's life yet she did it anyway & that is selfish.

    • @maggiemakgill
      @maggiemakgill 4 роки тому +24

      She was never confused. She has the memories of Jessica, including the teachings of the abomination she received. She understood the Reverend Mother's concern perfectly well (Hell, she even prompted the conversation asking her to tell the Emperor who she is). Later, she just got stuck handling a lot of stuff on her own after Paul wanders off and Jessica leaves that she's too busy, distracted, and exhausted to guard her own mind against the influences of the voices within, she listens to them mostly because everyone else has left.

  • @JimmySailor
    @JimmySailor Рік тому +83

    Ian McNeice is my favorite Baron. Both cunning and slightly foppish he isn’t a complete psychopath but rather a player seeking power. The Sci-fi version really emphasizes the struggle for power aspects of the story more than the religious/supernatural elements. The other versions of the baron seem so grotesque as to be inhuman, it’s unimaginable that they would be invited to a dinner or social event. Ian’s version is slightly more banal, but also sells the idea as well. The Baron isn’t a supervillain, just an evil man.

    • @ariatrent6263
      @ariatrent6263 4 місяці тому +1

      Well said

    • @willf4718
      @willf4718 4 місяці тому +6

      There's actually not much of Skarsgård's Baron in the new films. I'd liked to have seen more of his scheming.

    • @danielh5159
      @danielh5159 3 місяці тому

      totes agree!

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 3 місяці тому +4

      the 80s movie was the Baron for me, dripping with pus and full of depravity. This baron is pretty decent but is consistent with his previous characters from Mr Tapling (Hornblower) and the Wagonmaster-General from Sharpe as well as the town crier from Rome.

  • @tonydelfrano7858
    @tonydelfrano7858 6 років тому +95

    My brother comes now," Alia said. "Even an Emperor may tremble before Muad'Dib, for he has the strength of righteousness and heaven smiles upon him.

    • @ChupeTTe
      @ChupeTTe 2 роки тому +10

      The most badass thing to come out of an infants mouth in all fiction.

  • @swiftmatic
    @swiftmatic 4 місяці тому +6

    I liked the writing of this version of 'Dune'. The miniseries format allowed for more expository material which is key to understanding what REALLY going on in Herbert's masterpiece. But, Oh Gawd, those COSTUMES 🤣🤣🤣

  • @kuribayashi84
    @kuribayashi84 2 роки тому +121

    I feel like they were trying to give the Sardaukar a Swiss Guard-vibe with these outfits. They may look silly but it makes much more sense for a Preatorian Guard to wear antiquated looking dress Uniforms than the black body bags with green visors they wore in the Lynch-Version.
    Although, personally, I always imagined Sardaukar-Uniforms to look like something straight out of pre-WW1 Germany/Prussia.

    • @brittking3990
      @brittking3990 Рік тому +2

      Hmmmm….I thought they would’ve looked totally righteous dressed as Starbucks employees.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 3 місяці тому

      Sardaukar wear grey and black uniforms with gold trimming in the books. Their officers had epaulets and wore extra trimmings. They looked more like Russian officers in the Napoleonic era, complete with sword.
      The Lynch version had the Sardaukar disguised as Harkonnen troops so they mostly just kept it that way

    • @trydowave
      @trydowave 3 місяці тому +2

      @@SantomPh I was always a bit confused about the sardukar uniforms in the lunch version. Unless the harkonnens had two sets of uniforms; the hazmat ones with the green glass or the ones with the two pipes on the face mask? I thought the sardukar were disguised for the first attack so not to involve the emperor. But at the end his 50 legions of sardukar are all still wearing the black hazmat suits again. Maybe lynch couldn't be bothered for a new design or the budget couldn't cover it?

  • @BatDad1984
    @BatDad1984 2 роки тому +212

    The Scifi Dune miniseries are really good. Its done with the budget they had available, but the actors do their jobs well, and they stay fairly close to the source material.

    • @paddy7812
      @paddy7812 Рік тому +19

      Agreed!! Too bad they didn’t have a little bit more $$ in their coffers for this!! Personally I thought McNiece was excellent as the Baron. They didn’t have the budget to make him more repulsive and vile as he was in the book, but Ian really brought out his evil and conniving ways!! And Julie Cox, well she’s smoking hot as Irulan!!

    • @dannygarland6366
      @dannygarland6366 Рік тому +3

      I want whatever you're smoking. Actually, I don't. It would probably kill me.

    • @Abmotsad
      @Abmotsad Рік тому +4

      Did you watch this video? The acting is UNWATCHABLY bad. It's hilarious.

    • @paddy7812
      @paddy7812 Рік тому

      @@Abmotsad Sadly you are mostly correct, but again not all the portrayals were bad.

    • @gregor_man
      @gregor_man Рік тому +4

      I agree. I find this still the best version, although the new movie has nice sections indeed.

  • @h0rn3d_h1st0r1an
    @h0rn3d_h1st0r1an Рік тому +5

    I liked the little touch of giving Shaddam an Italian accent

  • @amfortas
    @amfortas 4 роки тому +173

    It's like it was produced by Liberace

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 2 роки тому +2

      Excellent Burn!! 🔥

    • @NoahSpurrier
      @NoahSpurrier 2 роки тому +7

      No! Liberace had taste and style, though unapologetically flamboyant, and he was a good pianist. This has none of that.

    • @grasshopper1153
      @grasshopper1153 2 роки тому

      so true

    • @Idranocram
      @Idranocram 2 роки тому +1

      Hahaahhaahahah

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 2 роки тому +9

      Although, to be honest, European and many other cultures' royalty in real life weren't any less over-the-top when it came to court fashions. It just seems bizarre because America is so young and never had a domestic monarchy with all the trappings.

  • @bujmoose3992
    @bujmoose3992 2 роки тому +29

    Although the director took a bit of artistic license, I love how they had Irulan's side of the story. Not to mention Julie Cox was very pleasing to the eyes.

  • @TheAngryAstronaut
    @TheAngryAstronaut 4 місяці тому +9

    Gotta love all the Gen Z and Millennial Dune fans who don't recognize good TV when they see it. Twenty years ago, Sci-Fi (they didn't use lame y's in their logo back then) made the best screen adaptation of the Dune story yet. Far better than the high budget train wreck in 1983.
    Sure, the current movies are better, but we were grateful for this version back in the day.

    • @danielh5159
      @danielh5159 3 місяці тому +1

      the current movies are more expensive, I wouldn't say better

  • @Slammy555
    @Slammy555 3 роки тому +117

    I thought Alia was scarier than Paul when I read Dune, at least until Paul started in with the heavy prescience at the end. Even now a reverend mother little girl gives me a little chill.. Growing up a Fremen as well, she could kill the emperor easily if she wanted and she kills the baron. You know you're bad when the reverend mothers are afraid of you.

    • @Amoth_oth_ras_shash
      @Amoth_oth_ras_shash 2 роки тому +4

      and you also know its a delicious crystal fruit reflecting the colours and resonance they soaked the foundations of ther societies and vaules in.... its almost a shame the author not got a bit 'generous' with her 'spice & ancestors' powers for that scene when she is alone with the emperor's court and the supposedly most powerful 'magic' users in ther galaxy ,i think its sort of in the books to...but can be cearten...
      but i guess the ending parts with i think is it not muadibs son doing ''letos peace'' as a half transcended thing before going into the sand to become a worm himself sort of beats that.

    • @wizardsuth
      @wizardsuth 2 роки тому +5

      She could have used the Voice to command the Emperor to kill himself, and he'd do it. The only one in the room who could resist her at all is Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam, and Alia has powers she doesn't even suspect.

    • @pyrolight7568
      @pyrolight7568 2 роки тому +3

      She was always way more scary. She was very powerful and way more ruthless. Ghanima and Leto II who were not afraid of her, since they were far stronger, knew not to push her too far.

    • @Amoth_oth_ras_shash
      @Amoth_oth_ras_shash 2 роки тому +2

      @@pyrolight7568 then agen.....push anything to far....
      but i guess since she was ''pree-born'' or what ther term for it is ,that did make it hard for people to relate to her and starved her of a lot of normal social stimulation.

    • @anb740
      @anb740 2 роки тому +3

      On top of her other powers, she was also quite sadistic! Which only got worse (or better) as she grew older.

  • @andyhoustonrest
    @andyhoustonrest 6 років тому +71

    I have to say that this version has grown on me over time.

  • @planetoftheatheists6858
    @planetoftheatheists6858 5 років тому +45

    Haven't scene cinematography like this since 1979 BattleStar Galactica

    • @ElTiBo44
      @ElTiBo44 4 роки тому +1

      Planet of the Atheists, Indeed. Could have added acting and production values to that list.

    • @Binkley-rj6gf
      @Binkley-rj6gf 3 роки тому +2

      Seemed more Buck Rogers.

  • @ashes2diamond
    @ashes2diamond Рік тому +37

    Looking at the comments, it appears I'm in the minority here in preferring this version over all others. Yes, the budget was low and it was before the CGI we have available today, but the acting was classy, the dialogue was borderline Shakespearean (the baron in this version came across as super smart and evil, while the new one was simply gotesque) and I actually became invested in the various protagonists plights. The latest version, while incredible in its visuals and sound design, left no ultimate impression upon me. This will forever be my definitive version of Dune.

    • @creativewriter3887
      @creativewriter3887 11 місяців тому +3

      I like this version MUCH more (though I think I"ll love the recent movies MORE).. unlike even the Reverend Mother, Irulan started putting the pieces together bit by bit and realized that the Baron set this whole thing in motion to make his one nephew incompetent so that his other could be the savior.. in doing so, she discovered that Paul didn't die and that Alia was his sister. This scene makes it look like she could tell right away, but if you watched the series, once she realized who Muadib was, it was easy to deduce who Alia was. I liked this version of Irulan whereas in the book, she was a quasi enemy of the Atreides or an incompetent.

    • @ariatrent6263
      @ariatrent6263 4 місяці тому

      I agree. I wish they made a series that stuck this close to the book with today’s technology…

    • @udirt
      @udirt 4 місяці тому

      The new movie has 10/10 visuals, sound, pomp, grandeur and 2/10 for "movie"

  • @grassygnoll3345
    @grassygnoll3345 2 роки тому +18

    It's nice how they gave the revelation of Alia's heratige to Irulan, giving her a little character and agency in the story, not just the role of whitness to events.

    • @aqueen04
      @aqueen04 Рік тому +4

      The expansion of Irulan's role was one of my favorite parts of the miniseries. Julie Cox did an amazing job portraying the character. In this particular part, I love the smirk she gave the Baron when she announced Paul as Maud'Dib. The way they wrote the character showed that the treatment of the Atreides family never sat well with her, particularly given the way she was used to further the plans the Baron and her father had to overthrow and destroy them. Here was her moment to see the Baron come face-to-face with his failures.

  • @beezzarro
    @beezzarro 2 роки тому +183

    Everyone is ripping on the costumes, but I always took them in stride. I've always found ceremonial outfits to be weird and downright ludicrous at time. Take the swiss guards of the Vatican for example, I'm sure they influenced the sardaukar in more than just their looks (which are absolutely the least threatening thing I've ever seen) as they are also well-renowned fighters and the private military force of Vatican, and by extension the pope.
    I think the costumes are absolutely fine and I think they have real world inspirations that provide for them a realistic precedent.

    • @bloodypine22
      @bloodypine22 2 роки тому +17

      In my opinion, these costumes are far better than the ones in Lynches movie. The one in lynches movie feel grimy and cheap, not at all imperial. Nevermind the Harkonnens who seem more like a group of BDSM fanatics than a powerful Noble family in Lynches version.

    • @Corehaven22
      @Corehaven22 2 роки тому +6

      Well the film has a lot of weird costumes and very odd eccentric features on men like giant eyebrows and stuff, and weird hairdos. But I always liked to see the movie a certain way. In history great men have always had a identifying eccentric aspect. Lincoln's height, hat, and mole. Hitlers mustache. I like to think in the distant future of Dune, they have realized this, and have attempted to sort of make it fashion culture if you will. Where many many people attempt to have eccentric or exaggerated features, in order to stand out, or distinguish themselves.

    • @LoudaroundLincoln
      @LoudaroundLincoln 2 роки тому +5

      I was in London today. Saw the changing of the guard. Bear skin hats and shiny helmets. They look ridiculous.
      But, I know better. Cavalrymen in name only, motorised infantry is what they are. Guardsmen? Well those bayonets aren't just for show. I'd be willing to bet at least a couple of those guardsmen have used a bayonet to finish off some poor bastard trying to desperately crawl away.

    • @Braun30
      @Braun30 2 роки тому +1

      Technically speaking the Swiss Guard in Rome is the Pope's guard.
      The full description is Guardia Svizzera Pontificia, roughly translated Swiss Papal Guard.
      They are well trained but are not SF stuff.
      Although one of the requirements is to have completed Swiss Army basic training it may be the guy is a cook or a lorry driver.

    • @beezzarro
      @beezzarro 2 роки тому +1

      @@Braun30 i don't know about now, but the swiss guards have historically enjoyed a fearsome reputation as being premiere fighters

  • @umbraarcturus2238
    @umbraarcturus2238 4 роки тому +430

    Miniseries did more justice to the novel, but the Lynch film definitely had more style.

    • @varric
      @varric 4 роки тому +17

      José Ferrer had more style playing the Emperor.

    • @DerrickVanderspoon
      @DerrickVanderspoon 3 роки тому +34

      Agreed. The miniseries definitely looks cheaper and flatter than Lynch’s Dune, but it has better performances and does the story much more justice.

    • @androth1502
      @androth1502 3 роки тому +7

      love them both. wasn't happy about the stilgar actor swap in the children of dune though.

    • @chadsknnr
      @chadsknnr 3 роки тому +3

      Someone had to say it . . . .

    • @RafaleC77th
      @RafaleC77th 3 роки тому +14

      @@DerrickVanderspoon Flatly disagree on the performances. The performances in Lynch's somewhat limited scope of Dune, far out strip the performances in the Sci-Fi mini-series. But it is Not the fault of the Mini-series for this. The screenplay adaptation, while honest to the novel in everything that it covered, was just some terrible script writing, it seemed rushed and dummied down. The actors, director did a marvelous job with those crap scripts. The set designers and costume/prop designers I think did well. And as cheap it sounded, the soundtrack was immersive enough. The Mini-series value is that it goes further than David Lynch's Dune.

  • @frefai
    @frefai 2 роки тому +11

    The Saradaukar in this version were the most elite fighting force because whenever an enemy would see their chef boyardee uniforms, they'd keel over laughing so hard then the Sardaukar could just easily kill them

  • @duncanidaho3740
    @duncanidaho3740 2 роки тому +22

    "It's not wise to be so impudent, child."
    Making a bold assumption that Alia is just a child.

    • @dresheraton9276
      @dresheraton9276 2 роки тому +2

      Well.....

    • @mariuszmiroslaw2290
      @mariuszmiroslaw2290 Рік тому

      "It's not wise to be so impudent, my child." said with a gentle smile and glassy eyes. 😏🤌

  • @davidcross9811
    @davidcross9811 4 роки тому +590

    What kind of spice was the costume department on?

    • @MsStack42
      @MsStack42 4 роки тому +51

      Scary Spice...

    • @Boog609
      @Boog609 4 роки тому +89

      the high school play budget spice

    • @saturn6784
      @saturn6784 4 роки тому +7

      That Tleilaxu stuff, that or the "Ultraspice"

    • @tomvu1470
      @tomvu1470 4 роки тому +11

      Low budget is the reason.

    • @lonewolf9390
      @lonewolf9390 4 роки тому +7

      The "bath salt" found in shady gas stations and convenience stores, the stuff that'll make you go zombie and want to eat someone's face.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 3 роки тому +20

    1:50 Make him afraid some more.
    Love it.

  • @genmaicha.lapsang
    @genmaicha.lapsang 4 роки тому +286

    Re-reading the books and re-watched the syfy sereis. And I have to say that depite the waky costumes it is a very good adaptation.
    Also, I like design of the costumes. The problem is that the fabircs they got were...not the best.
    Also, I think it's safe to say that Ian McNiece is the best part of this show.

    • @grasshopper1153
      @grasshopper1153 2 роки тому +7

      it's decent and more accurate that Lynch's movie. Hopefully the remake coming out this year will be better.

    • @minsapint8007
      @minsapint8007 2 роки тому +2

      Ian McNiece - yes, thanks. I was wondering who it was.

    • @daniels7907
      @daniels7907 2 роки тому +17

      Especially since they didn't get into the really weird, creepy stuff from the Lynch adaptation, or what looks like is in the new film. In the novel, Baron Harkonnen was unquestionably evil. But it was more Renaissance nobleman evil, not bizarre freaky bathing-in-black-oil evil.

    • @idkimlikereallybored9533
      @idkimlikereallybored9533 2 роки тому +7

      @@minsapint8007 true roman barons, for true romans

    • @christopherthorkon3997
      @christopherthorkon3997 2 роки тому +7

      Yes, better than Lynch's version and much more faithful to the book. The costumes are wacky but otherwise great miniseries.

  • @chrismartin7465
    @chrismartin7465 2 роки тому +8

    I swear I thought this show was just a fever dream I had when I was a kid! It's good to see this show again.

  • @southerner66
    @southerner66 3 роки тому +14

    Ian McNeice will be hard to beat as The Baron.

    • @theosprey7111
      @theosprey7111 2 роки тому +7

      The Lynch interpretation of the Baron is a sick freak. Ian McNiece’s portrayal has this wonderful sort of Shakespearean gleeful menace. Skellen Skarsgaard in the new film is kind of dull by comparison.

    • @AdamMichalMarkowski
      @AdamMichalMarkowski Рік тому +3

      @@theosprey7111 Agreed. Seems to be channeling Marlon Brando though with not really much of a lasting impression.

  • @snewsh
    @snewsh Рік тому +12

    Ian McNeice is a treasure. One of the biggest gripes i have with the 81 dune is the portrayal of the baron.

    • @alberto2287
      @alberto2287 4 місяці тому +2

      He only eats bread produced by the Guild of Millers. The Guild of Millers uses only the finest grains. True Roman bread, for true Romans.

  • @Grubnar
    @Grubnar 5 місяців тому +2

    Narrator's voice: "It was at this time, the Emperor knew he had f*cked-up!"

  • @cinemasailor
    @cinemasailor 2 роки тому +118

    This is a really nicely written scene, from the standpoint of adaptation.
    In fact everything about this is nicely done, including the design which others are critical of; I think it’s a very conscious choice, and an interesting one. (Also I like the Emperor as a kind of Medici-like ruler. That’s a good interpretation.)

    • @stevensenator4804
      @stevensenator4804 2 роки тому +6

      Personally, I found the Emperor's accent very distracting. The Baron Harkonnen was fat, but not nearly fat enough.

    • @theosprey7111
      @theosprey7111 2 роки тому +11

      A lot of people criticized the Sardaukar uniforms in this adaptation but they remind me of Renaissance Condottieri. Fits with the politics.

    • @FinnMcRiangabra
      @FinnMcRiangabra 2 роки тому +2

      Are you joking? This makes 1970's Doctor Who look like high art.

    • @harmsc12
      @harmsc12 2 роки тому +6

      @@theosprey7111 Their uniforms aren't great, but at least they're not wearing hazmat suits.

    • @bobbyvelveteen
      @bobbyvelveteen Рік тому

      @@FinnMcRiangabra 😂 help!

  • @DeusImperium
    @DeusImperium 6 років тому +113

    This version is much closer to the novel than Lynch's. I still love David Lynch'e version though.

    • @vikingwarlord24
      @vikingwarlord24 4 роки тому +6

      I agree this version pairs with the novel as far as the script but is nowhere near the costume and actors appearances. Where as 84's actors match with the characters descriptions and most of the costumes match up but doesnt follow the story.

    • @tomvu1470
      @tomvu1470 4 роки тому +3

      @@vikingwarlord24 Probably due to the much lower budget (TV version).

    • @MikeInDubai
      @MikeInDubai 3 роки тому

      Then you didn’t like the book

    • @DeusImperium
      @DeusImperium 3 роки тому +3

      @@MikeInDubai What?

    • @robdi4585
      @robdi4585 2 роки тому

      @@MikeInDubai The costumes designs were abysmal. I had a very difficult time watching the miniseries. I also did not Care much for the casting, with the exception of William Hurt who played Paul Atreides father. Yes, I do agree with deusImperium.

  • @judgeboony2695
    @judgeboony2695 4 місяці тому +6

    Aside from seeing small clips like these, when was the last time any of you have actually watched this whole miniseries?
    Cause honestly I don't think it's nearly as bad as you all think it is.

    • @whatever3132
      @whatever3132 4 місяці тому +3

      It just suffers from that Syfy TV show look. If you watch an show that was made by Syfy they all have the same look, style, and acting. Nowadays when you look back, it looks especially cheap, but honestly Syfy were the only ones doing sci-fi shows and this was the budget they had. They probably shouldn't have shot it in the same style as an episode of Stargate SG-1 though.

    • @alessandrozigliani2615
      @alessandrozigliani2615 2 місяці тому

      I have never thought it was bad. The CGI was cheap but I have never cared about that as long as what happens is not ridiculously impossibile and over the top.
      The costumes sometimes are too much but hey. This is a decadent empire 10k years in the future: you are bound to have some periods where fashion becomes ludicrous like in the 1700s.
      And it is a honest attempt at being faithful to the books.
      Beside, I absolutely love the following series, Children of Dune.

  • @johnborden6308
    @johnborden6308 4 місяці тому +3

    "By order of the Emperor all mockery of Fremen and their one prophet shall be kept to an appropriate minimum!"

  • @oldmonkey7720
    @oldmonkey7720 2 роки тому +7

    for all who are wondering about costumes - its work of Teodor Pistek, the same guy who does costumes for Forman`s Amadeus....

  • @melvaburke2608
    @melvaburke2608 5 років тому +3

    Glad I Found These VID'S Today! DUNE Period! LIKE Both Versions And Children Of Dune, Couldn't Wait For It To Be Put TV At The Time! JUST Like GOT's.. Thanks

  • @michaelanderson2335
    @michaelanderson2335 6 років тому +25

    HE IS THE MOWER DEEP

    • @chadsknnr
      @chadsknnr 3 роки тому +1

      Count your blessings; they could have pronounced it "MooWaDhib"

  • @michaelriddick7116
    @michaelriddick7116 Рік тому +1

    Great casting and well written for a made for TV miniseries :) The sequel Children of Dune was the first time I saw a young James McAvoy as Leto the second :) abd he CRUSHES IT!!! 👍😎👍

  • @llperks
    @llperks 4 роки тому +4

    Those costumes though.... woof.

  • @nordattack
    @nordattack Рік тому +28

    The best Barron ever. Orange haired, sneaky, plotting, decadent and a big scaredy cat. Just like the book described him.

  • @Fuzzlewhumper
    @Fuzzlewhumper 2 роки тому +4

    The princess got shafted, she was worthy to lead and be respected. Instead, got a bunch of time to read her books instead ... actually now that I consider that, she got a sweet deal.

  • @omirie
    @omirie 6 років тому +11

    The costume and sets from the dino delaurentis production were of course superior - delaurentis was a master at production all details were perfect

  • @thedanielkarim
    @thedanielkarim 2 роки тому +13

    Lynch’s dune is really a masterpiece in disguise - watched it a week ago for the first time and can’t stop dreaming about it ever since

    • @CT-nb5lm
      @CT-nb5lm Рік тому

      Yeah The Fayde casting was really brilliant.
      Lynch ws just a fanboy of that band.
      I like this cunning/technique Fayde.
      And it's gonna be even worse in the new movie.

  • @lohphat
    @lohphat 6 років тому +27

    WILL EVERYONE BE QUIET!!!!
    I'm trying to watch these people ACT!
    *drink*

  • @royjackson9576
    @royjackson9576 3 роки тому +20

    This was the TV version...much closer to the original book. It was on the SyFi channel in the 1990's, if I recall correctly.
    Actually, it's quite good...thanks for posting!

    • @JnEricsonx
      @JnEricsonx 3 роки тому +6

      This is a miniseries from the early 2000s. They did show the extended version of the 80's movie in the 90's on Sci-Fi though.

  • @nifralo2752
    @nifralo2752 2 роки тому +7

    Shahdam's Italian accent makes him sound like Mario's dad

    • @junesilvermanb2979
      @junesilvermanb2979 2 роки тому +1

      King of Italy
      wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Italy

    • @theosprey7111
      @theosprey7111 Місяць тому

      It’s a me! Shaddam IV! Seriously though I love the Italianate look of this version… it just fits…when I read the book it was obvious to me the parallels between the great houses of the Imperium and the rulers of the city states of Renaissance Italy and their politics and modes of warfare.

  • @M1DL1F3GAM3R
    @M1DL1F3GAM3R 2 роки тому +1

    Dune is so colorful and lively can't wait to see the worms.. BTW it still feels like they would dance or something like those old MTVs

  • @jaimebabb9968
    @jaimebabb9968 4 місяці тому +16

    Ian McNeice is still by far the best Baron Harkonen

  • @N37tron_Danc3
    @N37tron_Danc3 Рік тому +1

    I love the sound of those giant doors closing!

  • @wolfpax22
    @wolfpax22 3 роки тому +47

    I really don't know why this gets so much hate. I feel like the whole "retro-renaissance" look gives it more of a feeling of great houses in space. The Sardaukar may look a bit foofy but honestly. The ones from the David Lynch movie have these ugly sewage worker outfits. Sardaukar need some kind of kickass battle armor for the field but here they're palace guards so they should be expected to be a bit foofy, like the Pope's Swiss guards.

    • @override367
      @override367 2 роки тому +6

      Honestly I agree, I'd love to see the royal guard saudarkar in somethnig stupid as long as the fremen comment on how stupid it is

  • @squamish4244
    @squamish4244 Рік тому +13

    This series was pretty cornball, but Giancarlo Giannini as Shaddam IV was one of the brighter spots, even with the ridiculous purple cape. That dude rocks. I hope Christopher Walken takes some inspiration from his performance for his own. And adds his own magic, of course. You wouldn't want to attract the worm.

    • @theosprey7111
      @theosprey7111 Місяць тому

      Giancarlo was best emperor way better than needs more cowbell man.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 Місяць тому

      @@theosprey7111 He was better than Walken, I hate to say it. He had the arrogance and smugness down pat. In Villeneuve's version, with Walken the same age as he is now, he could have been cast again, and killed it. I felt Walken didn't bring enough of that "I am the f*cking emperor!" to the role, which did, indeed, need more cowbell.

  • @planetoftheatheists6858
    @planetoftheatheists6858 5 років тому +30

    I heard they had to rush shooting because they needed to get the wardrobes back to Halloween Headquarters

  • @Yukiabiannightmare
    @Yukiabiannightmare 2 місяці тому

    I really miss these days of the sci-fi channel. It had its own look and feel.

  • @AYEcorolla
    @AYEcorolla 2 роки тому +2

    idgaf this is my favorite version of the Baron.
    Over the top.

  • @matthewknauf3625
    @matthewknauf3625 4 місяці тому +3

    I wish the new dune had his sister in it as well. perhaps in the third movie

  • @steveducell2158
    @steveducell2158 Рік тому +1

    Watching this only emphasizes how much effort and budget went into the costumes and sets of David Lynch's version of Dune

  • @johnstitt2615
    @johnstitt2615 5 років тому +6

    The look on his face before he rips the paper up is hilarious.

  • @th3blackghost214
    @th3blackghost214 4 місяці тому +1

    😅 she got her mother's power and her brother's boldness

  • @hungarianbeast
    @hungarianbeast 4 роки тому +39

    Damn, the acting the script and even the delivery is so awesome. But I can't look at this awful design.

  • @Pepper888
    @Pepper888 4 місяці тому +2

    There are so many things to like about this version of Dune.
    The costumes are not one of them

  • @ALwinDigital
    @ALwinDigital 2 роки тому +18

    Mini series had a smaller budget than big hollywood films, so they put more emphasis on dialogue and character development. Lynch compressed a lot into a 2 hour movie. Villeneuve's Dune focuses more on visuals and CGI.
    As for the choices of actors and actresses for various roles, each adaption also has their own good and bad choices. E.g. hard to see Sean Young as Chani or Jason Mamoa as Duncan Idaho.
    Each adaption has their pros and cons, but in telling the "story" of the Dune universe, the mini series is a bit ahead.

  • @alucard624
    @alucard624 Рік тому +3

    When you get Dune from Wish...

  • @ktefccre
    @ktefccre 2 роки тому +1

    I really like the costumes in this adaptation

  • @Bobaklives
    @Bobaklives 5 місяців тому +1

    This version (at the time) was neat with wacky costumes but now feels slightly better than the PC-game cut scenes in the mid-90s 😂

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 3 роки тому +12

    Did you are the facial expressions on the courtiers, nobles, and soldiers, when Alia Atreides called Emperor Shadam Corrino IV an old man?

    • @ecoquilting7077
      @ecoquilting7077 3 роки тому +2

      Shaddam is not supposed to be an old man yet at this point, I don't get that part at all.

    • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
      @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 3 роки тому +5

      @@ecoquilting7077 anyone in a position of high ranking government power will age faster than regular citizens.

    • @ecoquilting7077
      @ecoquilting7077 3 роки тому +3

      @@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 hello, Melange's geriatric effects?

    • @creativewriter3887
      @creativewriter3887 2 роки тому +2

      @@ecoquilting7077 She called out the truth.. in the book even though he was in his 70s he looked in his 30s and Alia just called it out.

  • @wargriffin5
    @wargriffin5 2 роки тому +2

    Everyone Else:
    Spacer's Guild: 🤨
    🙏

  • @elxaime
    @elxaime 2 роки тому +1

    "Sponsored by the Baker's Guild of Giedi Prime: True Harkonnen bread for true Harkonnens!"

  • @andrewlim9345
    @andrewlim9345 3 місяці тому +3

    While I enjoyed Denis Villeneuve’s Dune 2 movie, reducing Alia’s agency particularly her role in the death of Baron Harkonnen was a serious mistake. This scene captures the original novel very well.

  • @stiopruryd4879
    @stiopruryd4879 11 місяців тому +1

    So interesting they got the Moebius designs with low budget

  • @BingGeaux
    @BingGeaux Рік тому

    excellent clip. and I love this adaptation better than al the others.

  • @mikemcg3425
    @mikemcg3425 2 роки тому +1

    The Sardukar costumes are based on the Landknecht of the 15-16th cen.
    There style of dress was pretty flamboyant.

  • @timmorin6657
    @timmorin6657 Рік тому +4

    It capture the book better then the last fiew movies.
    I'm sold

  • @rubenlarochelle1881
    @rubenlarochelle1881 2 роки тому +1

    Giancarlo Giannini's acting is the reason I kept watching despite the spoilers

  • @MinuteLeech2
    @MinuteLeech2 2 роки тому +8

    The effects aren't great but I actually liked the mini-series adaptations best. I liked that they did the first three books.

    • @Sepaedius
      @Sepaedius 2 роки тому +3

      they have the best sandworms overall, and the best Baron.

  • @hisvorpalsword
    @hisvorpalsword Рік тому +1

    I fail to see why this movie got remade. The first was amazing.

  • @johnstitt2615
    @johnstitt2615 5 років тому +5

    The paper flips in his face taunting him.......the final straw...lololol

  • @vampirecount3880
    @vampirecount3880 6 років тому +18

    You can say wathever you like, but the sardaukar looks badass in this series.

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 5 років тому +2

      Yeah I thought the Lynch version in the biosuits looked like crap

    • @stevelopez372
      @stevelopez372 5 років тому +1

      J S Yea maybe, but chef hats, tight pants and nut covers...Meh.

    • @stuckie3916
      @stuckie3916 4 роки тому

      Joking right? The look like gay purple clowns.

  • @whatever3132
    @whatever3132 3 місяці тому +2

    The year is 10191. The universe is feudal. We still use paper. Peak civilization.

  • @philipsmith3968
    @philipsmith3968 2 місяці тому

    I think that the goofy costumes of the Emperor and his court were intended to show that they were more concerned with matters of fashion than with matters of government. Phil the Cat

  • @sygmarvexarion7891
    @sygmarvexarion7891 Рік тому +2

    Pretty disrespectful of Baron Harkonnen to tower above the emperor with his floating device. The director should have known this.

  • @TheMrthatdude17
    @TheMrthatdude17 7 років тому +6

    aren't there any channels dedicated to sci-fi novels? crazy how there are so many for comics, manga, and games

  • @Ghhyuttgg
    @Ghhyuttgg 5 місяців тому +1

    Say what you will about this, the costumes are just spectacular

  • @crucisnh
    @crucisnh 6 років тому +13

    I think that there are good and bad points to both versions. This scene, for example. I don't like the Bene Gesserit outfits in the newer version. As I recall (perhaps incorrectly), the BG outfits in Lynch's version were truer to the book. And the way that Irrulan's lines were written in this scene were so incredibly clumsy. I liked how this actress portrayed Irrulan in the more recent version, but at times her lines were poorly written. I could go on and on, but there's not really any point. There's good and bad to both versions, and I'll leave it at that.

    • @sarosch
      @sarosch 2 роки тому

      I agree! I think. I have not seen the miniseries ever and felt just now like I was watching some dubbed foreign version-Latvian maybe, bad Fellini- of Dune. Or what they call space-opera? Over the top, for sure. Like Ming the Merciless! Love those old b&w space-patrol movies! 🚀

  • @mossy642
    @mossy642 2 роки тому +3

    Baron Harkonan:
    So my grandchildren are going to kill everyone. Okay. I should gtfo.

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 5 місяців тому

      I wonder, if he had known the truth .. would he never had started the whole thing, because he would have not seen the need to?

  • @chewface
    @chewface 3 роки тому +4

    The Baron owned Alia in the end, though....

    • @creativewriter3887
      @creativewriter3887 2 роки тому +2

      sorta, kinda.. but she regained herself by sacrificing herself (aka suicide). Which is a reverse version of the Exorcist in that only in killing herself can she save herself from the Trial.

  • @comradecat3678
    @comradecat3678 3 роки тому +1

    okay i put this on thinking this would be hilariously bad but ahhh its actually pretty well acted and the costumes sorta work when its not just an out of context picture...

  • @thinkcubeydr.shulker9888
    @thinkcubeydr.shulker9888 2 роки тому

    How have I not heard of this remake before

  • @truckwarrior5944
    @truckwarrior5944 2 роки тому

    I'm not sure why youtube suggested this to me. I'm not sure what this is. But it is really interesting and i like it!

  • @ecoquilting7077
    @ecoquilting7077 3 роки тому +7

    Jarring to see the scene in my mind handled with such tawdry camera work, pacing, and blocking.

  • @Mofo6773222
    @Mofo6773222 2 роки тому +3

    I earlier missed that the Baron was trying to subtly threaten the Emperor by revealing Corinos complicity with the downfall of the Atreides with that “revisiting old strategies” line, but the Emperor either didn’t pick it up or didn’t care.

  • @Primenumber19
    @Primenumber19 2 місяці тому +1

    It was fun tv for the time.

  • @MichaelKurse
    @MichaelKurse 3 місяці тому +2

    All Praise Saint Alia of the Knife!🪬🪬🪬

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 4 місяці тому

    Muad D'ab -- huffed spice and got totally lit.

  • @putinscat1208
    @putinscat1208 2 роки тому +3

    If Dune was off-broadway Shakespeare.

  • @DigitalJesuit
    @DigitalJesuit 5 років тому +52

    I really like this version... but the 1984 scene was much better.

    • @lexsmith8689
      @lexsmith8689 5 років тому +1

      FUCK NO!!!!!!!

    • @mr.vargas5648
      @mr.vargas5648 5 років тому

      I hate that kid. Allmost make me feel sorry for poor Vladimir.

    • @nwstraith
      @nwstraith 4 роки тому

      I agree. The acting in this is atrocious compared to what we got in the 84 version.

    • @nwstraith
      @nwstraith 4 роки тому +1

      @ShaiHuludisCool to each their own then

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito 2 роки тому

    Inconceivable!