Pleasant Kenobi’s Commander Deck Is An 8 Power Level | Shuffle Up & Play 48 | Magic EDH Gameplay
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2024
- Vince aka PleasantKenobi, Lua Stardust of Scrybabies, and Joe Johnson of Tabletop Jocks join us with level 8 power Commander decks! Compare to our episode where we use level 7 power Commander decks so that you can learn all about power levels in EDH!
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I built Crim a Commander deck and I think he loved it? Watch him play it alongside Princess Weekes and Chase aka ManaCurves on the previous Shuffle Up here: ua-cam.com/video/ClrU-0T7tOU/v-deo.html
Is there a way to make a cedh based around the Godzilla from ikoria themed deck card's? Figured I'd ask as it's a project I've personally been working on, and haven't really seen anyone on UA-cam base a commander deck on the Godzilla cards.
Hey prof! Just commenting as a reply so you see it. I watched your latest WhatNot stream and heard you mention that you were thinking about doing a Shuffle up and Play video on Sorcery TCG. Firstly, I am ecstatic and giddy from hearing that. Secondly, If you need to borrow any cards or anything I have two full playsets and a draft cube made I would be more than willing to send to you if it would help! I am in no way affiliated with the company, just a fan of yours and of Sorcery who would love to see more people learn about and play my new favorite game.
1:09:20 LMAO loooooooool
You should have a edh with level 1 - 3 decks.
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Kenobi's description of his deck is the best description a deck has ever had. He puts things inside himself, and then soldiers fall out the other end.
It's just like me. I put food inside me and shiz fall out the other end.
It's how I'm going to describe mine next time someone asks.
Just like when I squeeze a doughnut 🍩
That deck was the first commander deck I built. It is WAY more powerful than it looks like it should be.
Just gonna leave this timestamp here so I can go back to that: 22:11
"You know when you squeeze a doughnut and the jam comes out of the hole, it's like that but with soldiers." That is somehow the most American sounding thing said in the most British way I've ever heard.
Apparently they don't have berliner donut in US 😂
@@catominhund Not sure what a Berliner is specifically but two standard American donuts are Jelly and Bavarian Cream (sometimes called a Boston Cream) donuts which are both injected with filling. Some places have specialty donuts with other fruit fillings but those two are found in most places. It's honestly a little concerning that a bunch of adults don't comprehend that when it's explained 🤣
@@davidbyrnes8541Like Prof said, that was not the issue with how Vince was explaining it...
@@andrewsparkes6275they also think there are no holes in filled donuts lol. Most places fill it after baking so there is a minor hole on one side.
@@thestormtrooperwhocanaim496 I still think you're missing the point. The issue they have with how Vince explained it was more how what started as a dirty joke got more and more involved and desperate with each sentence, to the point that how he was explaining it was hilarious and was never gonna match up to the actually-quite-boring reality, so shouldn't have even started that wild ride in the first place (because the reality was always gonna be pretty boring). It wasn't about the donuts specificially at all; it'd have been the same if he was comparing it to packing and unpacking a suitcase or anything describing stuff going into and out of it. I.e. basically by the point of the second or third sentence, it was never about the donuts, and they were gonna rip into Vince whatever over-eager analogy he was making, and he couldn't understand that this is what they were really doing, because he was so eager to prove himself right.
Profs unhinged loathing for the initiative and slowly unraveling sanity at it being good was a pure delight to watch!
I play too much competitive magic to view the initiative as anything other than a mistake XD
That never should have been a legacy playable mechanic.
I run a dungeon commander deck and i still forget sometimes past the first trigger. But initiative is becoming more familiar cuz pauper/pdh likes it
when he plays the white plume adventurer, he immediately ventures into the dungeon… wouldn’t that be on his upkeep if he had the initiative?
@@zionbarnett1457 nah, when you take the initiative you move to the next level of the dungeon. But you can't pick other dungeons. It's just the 1.
or was it?
Prof you are knocking it out of the park with SUaP. Your cast selection is banger and the "vibe" is imaculate. No other Magic show gets me this excited when a video drops.
That's incredibly kind of you to say!
Absolutely agree! Its SU&P and CAH that come in tied for my favorite MTG YT channels. There's a lot of great MTG content but this and CAH are the two that consistently stand out as just amazing videos. Absolutely love them. Especially since I am in a dry spell for getting to play MTG myself... they really scratch the itch.
@@munchkingod6 What is CAH?
@@ben_clifford Commander At Home
I won't fall for this after my "level 7" deck experience with you, Prof.
We need to do a Level 6 Power episode next.
@@TolarianCommunityCollegeis CEDH on the table?
@@danielwhite1890 Never, the episode would be 10 minutes long and it wouldn’t be very entertaining.
@@jonlangthorne7924 if that's your take, you've clearly never played CEDH. And if a YT comment could change your bias, the endless amount of CEDH content on here would have by now
I badly wanna see a level 1 commander game.
That doughnut tanget had me crying. I love this table
I also had to come down here to praise that hole conversation
he was right
i love that early on PK thought the misunderstanding was Americans don't know what jam is lmao
@@Dsmky117 I think it's because Lua took a moment to clarify that before
THEY INJECT THE JAM 👉👌
Here to defend Vince's donut analogy, filled donuts, like jelly or boston creme, ABSOLUTELY have a hole in the side where the filling will come out if squeezed too hard, thats why you always eat them from that side first so that the force of biting down doesnt send jam/creme everywhere
Yeah, it was surprising no one else knew. I'm not sure how you exist in the USA up to an adult and not know what a jelly donut is.
I want Vince back, I never had so much laugh on your show, not because of his deck but because of his English humor. Best show ever.
"prof i'm playing the magic, not you!"
I feel the same way whenever we get a spice episode
I love Vince and Spice so much! I'd love to have them both at the table.
@@metalgamer21 realest shit I’ve ever heard
@@metalgamer21 Somebody's out there thinking with portals.
Prof and Vince argue EXACTLY like brothers, really gives you that good old kitchen table feel 😂
I'd like a video with Prof, Vince, Sam/Rhystic, and Spice. I feel like that group would be the most kitchen table-esque video ever. Just all of them poking each others' buttons and chaos reigning.
That would be very good content @SomeOfTheJuice, also good would be Cam/Dylan from PTW, with Mouldhold, and Ben Wheeler.
I’ve never seen the professor so angry. He held it in well but that was both hilarious and surprisingly tense
Initiative is a good mechanic though and didn’t deserve the hate
@@ethanhughes3515 It's an OK mechanic. The issue with it, however, is it's yet another thing to try to keep track of and is a 'non-interactable' mechanic similar to day and night. Once it's 'in play' through a card effect it's there and everyone now has to keep track of their own dungeon. I'd rather them just play with Enter the Dungeon instead, play your own dungeon. Don't make others HAVE to play with your gimmick also.
I’d say it’s more like the monarchy than day and night. It’s clear when it triggers and someone has to take an intentional action to trigger it. If the person who introduced brings tokens then it’s pretty easy to keep track
I’d say it’s more like the monarchy than day and night. It’s clear when it triggers and someone has to take an intentional action to trigger it. If the person who introduced brings tokens then it’s pretty easy to keep track
I think you'll find in the comprehensive rules that if your opponent responds 'sounds good' with anything you say about your actions, those actions automatically become completely legal
That's not the comp rules, that's the tournament rules.
Ah, yeah, good old rule 420.69k. How could we all forget.
@@therealax6 What's weird is that it is a real rule. If you do something illegal and neither player catches it until after the game moves on then it is legal.
@@barryfraser831 You're thinking of a tournament procedure, not a rule. And tournament procedures are guidelines that judges can deviate from.
@therealax6 This. The same scenario could get you a warning, loss or even DQ(depending on context) if the vague signaling was clearly malicious. Seen it happen at lvl 1 events
" I would like you to go back on your word to Vince " This man is a National Treasure
the zoom in on the other half of the deck was gold.
Honestly I'm just really impressed at how cleanly Vince resolved his triggers, looked like a really fun deck to pilot.
Indeed. It was a blast to watch. Too often this series has errors in resolving complex interactions or a big stack.
1:13:20 absolute poetry. Prof giving an epic speech pleading to team up to defeat Vince, Vince casting the gear hulk, cut to prof head in hands
Vince has been saying for years that Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur's Gate is a fantastic and underrated commander set, and he put his money (maybe jam?) where his mouth is to show everyone with a CLBG commander and set mechanic (initiative). I respect that!
It's responsible for some of my most powerful/fun decks. I adore BFBG so much
initiative sucks so much
it's basically just the same thing as Monarch, it's good
@@Crushanator1 It can also be a good psuedo group hug thing. The search for a land being the first room is great for letting someone who missed a drop try and get back in the game if they have something weaker out to attack the initiative holder with
Everyone's playing "level 8 commander" and noone brought Octavia the living thesis. Very disappointed in all of you, especially the prof.
I actually started brewing one with this prompt but had moved right before this so a lot of my cards still in boxes 😂
I was just excited to finally see profs sliver deck come play
Paging Rachel or Ben...
Isn't that hard to keep it *just* at an 8?
That’s a Rachel weeks deck
Died at Lua's knowing look at Vince's comment that his commander puts things inside of him
"Jesus Christ Vince, we already know where the jelly comes from." -Prof
😂
1:19:04
This was one of the funniest episodes and commander games I've seen. Vince got the professor channeling as much zen as possible to prevent player removal occurring 😂 Fantastic, thank you all so much for good morning laughs
You got to bring Vince back. I love the snarky attitude and his gameplay is clear and concise. I appreciate the deck he played but maybe could have been optimized more.
Optimized to be a little less long winded and tedious. It started getting boring to watch after 30 minutes in. I would be just as bored playing against that deck.
i was just waiting for the "next time on shuffle up and play" to show vince seconds after Prof said he will not be invited back.
i was also waiting for vince to steal the sliver near the end instead of using removal on it just to flex on the Prof
GO LUA (we are so not biased)
Scraybiasies
Vince is especially amazing at the commander table lol. Pro politicking. Hilarious group man, the chemistry! 😂
edit: I dont think I've ever seen an EDH game with more politicking. lol
Definitely my version of politicking. Trying to make deals with me ends up with extra scrutiny for your own board state.
Dude, the sheer joy in Vince's eyes when he was 'negotiating' with prof and egging him on about blowing up a sliver... he knew exactly what he was doing lol
Someone please tell Lua I LOVE her earrings!
Thank you!! I’m trying to find the vendor I got them from. She had a bunch of magic ones, yugioh and Pokemon too. 😊
@@Luastardust I love the liliana sweater too!
@@Luastardust Seconded! Would love to send some love that vendors way too.
@Luastardust, what is the card on your earrings?
@@nightstalker2321 Shadowheart, I think.
You did it to yourself prof 😂😂😂 honestly love the banter so much. My absolute favourite show Shuffle up and play is ❤
21:29 Prof: "I'm not going to attack you." 25:18 Prof: "I said I wouldn't attack Vince with Slivers."
I agree with Vince, it was scummy.
Yeah, prof has some bad manners when it comes to politics. And he is butthurt when called out as well.
And he wonders why he always gets 4th lol
@@AaackermannPolitics are dumb.
FRIENDS IN PARRIS 😭😭😭😂😂
D-draw so hard these friends wanna fight me
@@skeletonrowdie1768 That shit cray
Was looking for this comment too 😂😂 There was absolutely no way Vince knew Joe was talking about the Kanye/Jay-Z song until he did the "Dun du Dun du Dun du Dun du Don". Fits with the lawsuit and stolen card art too lmfao. 18:20
Yeah, I almost lost it the way he just played it all off 😂😂😂
Joe out here preserving Prof's innocence one day at a time. Hahahaha.
Y’all been teasing this one for so long. I’ve never looked forward to an episode of shuffle up and play more than this one. Love the concept and point (no one agrees on power levels) and this Pod is LEGENDARY.
I thought I understood the stack but Vinces deck made my head hurt.
I only knew what he was doing because i have my own budget Abdel Adrian/Candlekeep Sage that uses most of the same lines
Maybe it would be useful to just write it down?
@@therealax6 you'd have to write out a timeline like Interstellar or Back to the Future to figure out what triggers when
Honestly, that deck is about the most boring, uninteresting decks I’ve seen. I’m surprised the table didn’t start falling asleep.
The banter in this episode was amazing. Kudos all around. Made me laugh the entire time. Thanks everyone!!
I feel like there needs to be a game of Archenemy where PK is the Archenemy and Prof recruits a super-team to help him take down PK.
I love the donut misunderstanding where it looks like Vince doesn’t know we have jelly filled donuts with holes in the middle and everyone else doesn’t know he’s referring to something like a Berliner as a donut.
As someone who is neither from the UK nor the US, having grown up with a mix of cultural influences from both, understanding exactly what the misunderstanding was immediately and watching the absolute train wreck conversation play out was excellent.
From the UK, damn I had no idea they were called berliners elsewhere
@@Derpingmuffin They're not, they're called doughnuts or filled doughnuts if you're a pedant. Filled doughnuts (in their modern form) also pre-date the invention of ringed doughnuts by half a century or so.
we don't have jelly filled donuts with holes in the middle far as I know, that guy in purple just made up a story about jelly materializing in a regular holed donut when he didn't know what a jelly donut was
Props to Vince for defending the initiative. Such a fun mechanic, makes me sad that Prof is so against it.
Honestly it just gets annoying to explain the mechanics to new players.
I love it in Pauper
I honestly think he just did it for the bit.
@@sstanfo1 Not only is it annoying to explain every game but it, unlike 'venture', it forces everyone at the table to do it too. If I wanted to dungeon, I'd have made a deck to dungeon. Yet now I've GOT to track a dungeon throughout the game because of it. It's more tracking in a game with enough to track as is.
initiative is the opposite of fun
This group dynamic is fantastic 😂 one of the best you ever had 😂
This was probably the most entertaining pod of 4 that i have seen. PK and Prof are actually Iconic.
"Friends in Paris" is the Kidz Bop version of that song
I wanted
"Vince isn't coming back."
'Next time in shuffle up and play!'
Vince: "I'm back!!!"
I'm so happy to see Prof's sliver deck again, I built one of my first edh decks after his sliver deck tech years ago and made it my own, but it was stolen from me a few years back. I've been rebuilding it since then to be bigger and better and it's finally almost ready
This episode has proven to me that Vince is by far the best politicker I have ever watched. He also has that British humour which is absolutely hilarious.
man, that random attack that was supposed to go to vince and prof just randomly takes out lua, even tho they were partners in crime for most of the game. I was rooting so hard for Vince after getting the arch enemy treatment, and what a game that was, congrats on the magnificent win.
Whoever’s the editor for this deserves a raise. With a ocean of commander content nowadays, it’s hard to stand out and I love style around dealing combat damage and the initiative animations. It’s just all great. Love it
The way Vince looks at Prof is so loving and so conniving and so funny. Love watching him guest on the show.
This was perhaps the most fun episode of Shuffle Up & Play so far. I was laughing and smiling through the whole episode.
That was brutal for Prof. Great game and very enjoyable episode!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Was Joe's second attack phase card played correctly? I swear it said casting it in your main phase was what caused a second battle phase, but he did an attack phase already before casting it meaning he had left his main phase
@@ravensroost4012 A turn contains two main phases, one before combat and one after combat.
@@doylerudolph7965 oops I always call that the post combat phase, my bad on forgetting lol
I'll always remember playing Abdel Adrian and Far Traveller at commandfest Birmingham in 2022. The most insane argument over a councils judgement on that quiet afternoon. Love me any abdel list.
This is the best episode of anything I've seen the prof involved in. More of this please.
Love this pod! Prof, Blackneto, Stardust, and Kenobi! Please do more collabs and games with them!
Blackneto is toxic.
This was such a blast to watch!! The banter between you and Vince was so hilarious! I am entertained!
I was cackling at the jam donuts. When Kenobi let a 'Bruv' fly, I knew that everything could only go up. Amazing content.
Level 1? That’d be so fun
@pleasantkenobi We saw the flickerwisp betrayal. This will not be forgotten.
I STILL REMEMBER FOLLOWING YOUR SLIVER COMMANDER GUIDE. It was my first commander deck and I was so happy with it!
This was maybe the best episode of mtg commander content I've ever watched. Brilliant job
@pleasantKenobi just a heads up for sakashima interactions, it is a "enter as" not just a "enters" ability so it has to copy a creature not in the pile that comes back from Abdel
He knows, that's why Saka had to come back as just herself toward the end of the game.
Vince is incredibly charismatic and funny! Was a blast to watch.
Prof, I love how you achieved game play episodes in your own way. I love how it really shows the humor and casual aspect of commander. You and Command Zone, despite the differences in how you do game play episodes, both produce high quality shows. I love it!
Your suit looks so nice! Awesome episode, thank you as always! 😊
Vince going off the rails 20 mins in is worth the price of admission. And for the record, absolute lunatic for eating a donut that way.
Jam-filled donuts and Homies in Paris... what an episode.
This episode was hilarious and a joy to watch! Loved all of the interaction.
The banter in this episode is great. Good episode
Probably the best intro PleasantKenobi has done on one of these. I love everyones reactions.
"yeah, it's like. An eight"
- Me after building every deck (it's a 2)
All of the guests are such a pleasure and a joy to watch, the interaction was hilarious with everyone this video!
Running for Pleasant Kenobi this time, i do have the same commander combination which isn't popular in my playgroup aswell 😅
Another really fun Shuffle and Play, that's so refreshing thx Prof !
❤ I have to say I waited to see this episode with so soo much excitement! Very cool commanders and amazing people playing these decks!
Hope you enjoy!
I am only twenty minutes in but I had to pause the video because Kenobi's doughnut speech is absolutely killing me. I cannot breathe someone send help. XD
What an absolute delight of an episode. This one was beyond amazing! I haven't laughed so hard during a magic video in YEARS! That donut conversation had me wheezing 😂
I loved Vince deck, back in the day i had a Venser flick deck and it was SO FUN. This is like the upgraded version that i had
this starts to feel like a meme, the 3-vs-prof format. almost every episode at some point it's 3-vs-prof even when there's a bigger threat at the table. reminds me of the old scg- commander-vs videos... not as entertaining after enough iterations
Universes Beyond: Hewlett-Packard
I'd prefer Lockheed Martin myself
I love Vince and his way of playing the game. More of him please.
Not going to lie ... you should have Vince back. Favorite episode by far.
If Vince reads these comments, A cool card I found for Abdel Adrian is great desert prospector. Makes powerstones equal to the amount of creatures you control, which basically lets you double your soldiers every time you flicker your commander. Can get out of hand super quick
Had a blast filming this! Thanks for having me back on TCC ☺️
Loved your comment in the show “friends in Paris”
@@brendenleal7829 it’s my favorite karaoke song 🤣
Had a blast watching this episode. Great table dynamic. Shoutout to my boy Kenobi for keeping it Pleasant :)
this is by far my most favourite game show on youtube. maybe because it feels like really close to actually just playing magic with some friends.
Joe's Mana Crypt dice have 4 no sides, and just 2 yes sides. Slick.
Yes! PK on SUP is always a good watch!
Love the banter! It's like watching Vince and Prof fence xD
Vince your donut analogy literally had me crying. Funniest I’ve ever seen from you since your commander clash day’s.
I see Vince on shuffle up and play - I click.
EDIT: Nice 8's guys.
vince's hand gestures and body language getting intensly graphic NOT to describe filling his commander with items but to describe filling a jelly doughnut with jelly
Those are the greatest earrings I have ever seen in my life!
What a game ! The banter was great and Vince was able to resolve his triggers quickly
Can I petition to get spice8rack on another episode of SUP?
Done
@@TolarianCommunityCollege WOOO
Can I second this? Why can I imagine Vince and Spice on the same episode?
In my play group we do the same thing with 2 dice but if two people has the same result, they die... what it means is joe would have started in my play group xD
Vince and Brian together on anything just works so well, dudes are so funny together
This was an incredible watch! one of the best SU&P so far!
Nice to see Joe staring at prof's entire deck as he searches...
Why did he get two attacks with light paws? The aura that gave him that he cast after his main phase?
He is a known cheater.
@@dirtyhead101 He cast it in his second, postcombat main phase, which is still a main phase.
@@diogeneticist3585 thank you, didn't know that rule
tbh when i first heard about "X power level" i thought the average power of the creatures was X
Ahahah I really enjoyed it, thanks. Reminded me of the Commander-like kitchen-table mtg games I used to have before the Commander era, with my friends and with a lot of pizza❤❤ Nice memories
the jelly doughnut discussion was the hardest I have laughed in a while, I needed that.
you see prof, in Britainania they say highering a car cuz you have to raise a car up on a ramp and give it a little crown before you can drive it, it's the queen's mandate
The way I see it, 9 and 10 is CEDH (with 9s being somewhat sub optimal CEDH decks and 10s being the best decks in the format). So if someone says they're playing an 8, I'm bringing my strongest casual deck.
I feel like a 9 could be either a suboptimal cEDH deck OR a deck pushing a non-competitive commander or playstyle to its absolute limit. That’s just my perception though. But the difference is I think that a 9 could absolutely be “optimized,” depending on what it is trying to do. Of course, the more janky or weak your deck concept is, the lower its ceiling will be.
CEDH and EDH are completely different formats with different build philosophies entirely. CEDH ≠ EDH and it never can the strongest EDH deck would look nothing like a CEDH deck. For instance no ones is using Demonic Consultation/ Thoracle to combo out if they’re plays EDH even if they’re describing their deck as a 10.
I really wish players could realize this.
@@PiCat210 People definitely do Thoracle combo in EDH. The exact combo depends on power level. The strongest EDH Thoracle combo is Demonic Consultation/Thoracle. So if someone describes their deck as a 10 (aka the strongest EDH decks), and they are playing for a Thoracle combo, expect Vampiric Tutor into Demonic Consulation / Thoracle.
You are right that in practice cEDH and EDH play differently. That is because casual EDH is when we don't play the theoretical strongest decks. Since we all agreed to slow down and play suboptimally, the game goes deeper and more things become viable. However if you remove that by talking about a 9-10 power level deck, then you are back in cEDH land.
1-8 (mostly 4-8) is casual commander (which includes high power non cEDH). However 9-10 is cEDH.
2 Different sources on the power level scale:
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-edh-multiverse-a-model-of-the-edh-landscape/
imgur.com/OcMdyUH
@@PiCat210 I see your point but viewing them as different formats entirely proves to be quite problematic in practice. In reality, both edh and cedh have the same banlist/ rules and at the end of the day (even though I wouldn't), people can run thoracle consult in their barely upgraded precon. The biggest difference between them imo is honestly just the mindset of the players. You just have to trust that the person at your LGS that's on tilt after losing 3 games back to back isn't gonna bust out a (otherwise entirely legal but socially questionable) blue farm list and stomp the table.
For me a 9 is a CEDH-tier commander playing unoptimal cards and without CEDH wincons. I have a Kinnan deck that I would classify as a 9 that plays some amount of fast mana (I didnt want to spend an absurd amount of money on Mox Diamond/Mana Crypt) but doesn’t play any infinites outside of Hullbreaker + Mox Amber + Chrome Mox (so no Basalt Monolith/Thrasios/Treasure Vault shenanigans)
It was something special to watch Prof just continue to f around and continue to find out.
Pleasant Kenobi brought my FAVORITE commander deck (I already had my own before seeing this)!! So excited to see it in play OMG!!!
I think a deck like that is only fun for the one playing it. When a single player takes 60 out of the 90ish minutes for their turns, it makes for a very boring game for most others. Personally, I’d get bored playing it too. Slooooooow. If someone has to narrate their turn that much, they quickly turn into one of those people who others don’t enjoy being around because they never stop talking.