This was an amazing (see what I did there) episode ! Can't wait to watch Pleasant Kenobi and Joe in the next one !! Love what you do Thank you Prof. !!!
wasn't it talked about on your podcast how he wasn't your student or enrolled in your class but he had friends in there and would just hang out in your room
I love how these games have turned into either prof hanging out with other old people and reminiscing or prof being made fun of for being old by a bunch of young people
@@ipsyop With Richard, I am not always sure. He is so good in flying (pun intended) below the radar and then popping off and winning. I wonder if he sometimes makes the sub-optimal choice just to manipulate the table.
@@koenvandepoll927 nah, if Crim breathes in any game Richard hard targets him, like look at recently when when he completely threw the game with the mole god just running rampant. there's a lot of things Richard does and says that are tbh extremely frustrating, and imo he only fly's under the radar because he's just not ever really that much of a threat/consistently just makes bad plays.
Crim's incredible ability to sit down at any table with any group of people and bringing the most unadulterated level of goblin energy is an incredible talent.
1:26:00 JUDGE! The copies created by Storm are not cast; they are created directly on the stack. (The easy way to remember this is that if they were cast, they'd trigger their own Storm ability.) Also, later, at 1:38:01 - Crim does have a maximum hand size 2 from Recycle, since it entered later and hand-size-modifying effects apply in timestamp order.
Is Crim resolving the multiple cascade triggers correctly throughout the video? I was under the impression that the first card you cascade into would be the last you resolve when you have multiples.
@@justinkopy3354 All four cascade triggers go on the stack. Then the topmost trigger resolves, which lets you cast a spell, which itself goes on top of the stack (on top of the three cascade triggers still there). So the first spell resolves before the other three cascade triggers do.
@@justinkopy3354 No yeah; the cascades do happen one at a time like that. Each cascade trigger finds the next card off the top and lets you cast it; when you do it gets put on top of the stack, above the other cascade triggers, so it resolves before the next cascade trigger finds the next card.
the contrast between Princess and Chase flirting with each other the whole game, Prof bullying Crim, and Crim being salty but winning anyway really captures the social dynamics at an average commander table
The best teachers are those that help guide their students to learn things for themselves! The Prof guiding Crim down the path of green is just a teacher doing what’s right! Not Prof’s fault that Crim fell asleep in class. Again.
Princess Weekes! So excited to watch, I've hoping she'd feature on another episode of Shuffle Up and Play ever since watching her "guest lecture" on vampires on the Tolarian campus....
On one hand, I'm proud of Crim, for confronting his greatest enemy, Green. Him and Prof have so much, "look what you made me do" energy, it's hilarious. Princess and Chase were being delightful, in a completely different pod. 😂😂
He means he doesn't have any cards named Forest. Extraplanar lense cares about the name of the card. He meant he had no cards named Forest to tap for double mana.
@@thunderryu0494 I'm happy you enjoyed the video, I'm not sorry my personal opinion offended you so much you think that I shouldn't share it in a public forum. I have a new opinion now, but don't worry I won't share it you can't handle it.
Hold on a sec, at 1:16:46 as a result of controlling gisela, the 1 damage that would normally hurt the gisela player gets half of it prevented (rounded up), hence the whole 1 damage gets prevented.
I loved what I saw of Yu Yu Hakusho but I haven't seen much past the first season or two, so I didn't recognize half the characters. Frankly I wouldn't have recognized Pu if I hadn't seen Botan
I want a box with final season crew. Everyone just op and in their strongest form on a red and black or blue and Grey for yuskes demon form would go hard
Incredibly entertaining game. I've never been more excited to see Crim pop off and Prof's deck get there so well. 14 minutes in the beginning of no gameplay and I still loved every minute
I know, minor detail, but Giselas effect was played wrong: she prevents halfe the damage dealt to you and your permanents rounded up. So any 1dmg ping just dissipates to nothingness, and eg the indoraptor damage at around 1:20:55 would only be 1, since whats prevented is 3/2 rounded up = 2
I loved the interactions this game, Chase in particular was so funny. Also not that it really mattered, but as both the Second Doctor and Recycle modify hand size, they apply on the order they were cast, making the final hand size two.
1:00:02 They revived the x-men show with x-men 97 very recently and it's really good! Even kept the same voice actors and animation style. That intro theme is also amazing.
This was by far the episode that made me laugh the most so far, what a game! I think that prof was really thoughtful in building that deck for Crim! And I would love to see that primer, too, or better a deck tech on that mono green storm!
It's so wonderful that you can reconnect with an old student like that. Maybe he can help you with getting the Behind the Campus video? You helped out the Command Zone with theirs.
What I (truly) love about SU&P, is that I can watch the first 15 minutes, without a single card played, and still have a wonderful time listening to the banter! Keeo them coming Prof. You have my favorite series!
Sometimes I get “drain bramage” listening to the puns and dad jokes but I cannot stop watching them play magic since it’s a game I love!! Keep the videos coming!!!
Always love Crim, but always surprised that the 2nd nicest guy in MTG hasn't shown up. Much like the prof, _Seth otherwise known as Saffron Olive_ is heartwarming.
50:12 Perfection 1:00:57 The RELIEF knowing that Crim wasn't about to storm off 1:22:55 - 1:38:10 "You don't have to be in Blue to play Blue" - Maldhound
It's your wholesome videos as of late that have been pushing me more and more to become a creator of myself. Not only to have the excuse of doing something I love in another way but also to interact more as you do with the community.
Small note: Gisela prevents half of the damage dealt to you, rounded up. So if Gisela's controller would take 3, they instead take 1. And 1 damage becomes 0. It's the damage prevented that gets rounded up, not the damage dealt.
If it wrong on how that card works it’s because I don’t know the vast amount of MTG very well I’ve only ever played Commander with Niv-mizzet Curiosity so
47:10 the trigger is for proof to draw a card, which will cause a new trigger to put the counter on Ominous Seas... I didn't see Prof draw at the trigger...
My God that was a wild turn for crim at the end. Prof ya have me anxious to see an in depth deck tech. I have been wanting to make it but now I have a great idea on how.
@@buddadragonmtg4848 Cool, I’m an old head myself. Stepped away during Urza’s Saga. Came back end of 2020 because someone finally mainstreamed a form of MtG that wasn’t Type II/Standard.
Great vid. In American English, : A primer (pronounced "primmer") is a schoolbook, and a primer (rhyming with "climber") is the first coat of something, or preparation like the white stuff you roll onto drywall before you put on your real paint, or an explosive cap.
Remember, Gisela prevents half the damage, rounded up. So when an odd amount of damage would be dealt, the damage prevented is rounded up. When 1 damage would be done, 1 is prevented and therefore 0 damage is dealt. When 3 damage would be dealt, 1 damage is done instead, etc.
Ominous Seas is one of my favorite examples of a card being unplayable in 60 card and amazing in commander. i jam that thing into every deck i can, its such a fun wincon at casual tables
Princess' gisela had a couple misplays. Gisela prevents half the damage rounded up, so she takes the lesser damage. She would have taken nothing from the creeping bloodsucker and 1 from the enrage trigger.
Crim and prof's chemistry is probably the highlight of the episode. Also had no idea chase goes to gamers haunt! its about an hour or so away from one of my flgs's!
1:38:05 I think Crim would have a maximum handsize of 2 because Recycle would override the 'No maximum handsize" because it came into effect afterwards.
Did you miss our recent Commander episode with Rachel Weeks, Gavin Verhey, and Georg? Watch it here: ua-cam.com/video/uHZX2bxcEQE/v-deo.html
THE PRIMER!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was an amazing (see what I did there) episode ! Can't wait to watch Pleasant Kenobi and Joe in the next one !! Love what you do Thank you Prof. !!!
In fairness, I think they pick on you because you are the bigger threat prof, therefore the best player 😁
Hey, can we have a link to the primer? Maybe as a description in the deck's page?
Vampires ABSOLUTELY DO NOT sparkle. However, Fae absolutely do. To sum; the Cullins are ALL FAE, NOT VAMPIRES.
Crim being Prof's actual student is amazing lore.
I remember him too!
Surely he was an amazing student @TolarianCommunityCollege
Is that where his villain arc started?
@@TolarianCommunityCollege was he always like that?
wasn't it talked about on your podcast how he wasn't your student or enrolled in your class but he had friends in there and would just hang out in your room
Princess and Manacurves: “Go ahead bestie, I love you!”
Crim and Prof: *laughing* “I’ve never hated another living thing more.”
"I've made you a heart!"
"Crim, you need to do better and apply yourself"
@@beanofknowledge2125 It's like watching a conversation between me and my father
Princess and manacurves sounds like an unglued dnd set
that second line is Vince PK erasure
like teacher like student
I love how these games have turned into either prof hanging out with other old people and reminiscing or prof being made fun of for being old by a bunch of young people
That's exactly how I envision my social activities to become lately.
Dr. Strangecrim or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Green
A reference Prof will understand
Beelzebub 🤘🏼
Writing a strong worded letter to Richard right now complaining about Crim's threat assessment.
THANK YOU
Richard's is even worse lol..
@@ipsyop With Richard, I am not always sure. He is so good in flying (pun intended) below the radar and then popping off and winning. I wonder if he sometimes makes the sub-optimal choice just to manipulate the table.
@@koenvandepoll927 nah, if Crim breathes in any game Richard hard targets him, like look at recently when when he completely threw the game with the mole god just running rampant. there's a lot of things Richard does and says that are tbh extremely frustrating, and imo he only fly's under the radar because he's just not ever really that much of a threat/consistently just makes bad plays.
Crim's incredible ability to sit down at any table with any group of people and bringing the most unadulterated level of goblin energy is an incredible talent.
**STORM COUNT: 12**
Crim: "Alright, your turn!"
Prof: "Wait, you did all that but you didn't have a storm payoff?!"
Crim: "No."
This will reflect in your final grade...
The editing played that up so well
He made a gazillion mana, too. Should've saved enough to cast that Commander, Crim!
In Crim's defense, every time my Pestilence stays on the board, it doesn't go well for my opponents.
didn't they messed up the cascade triggers from the Hydra? They resolve the 1st spell but the 4th should be cast first...
1:26:00 JUDGE! The copies created by Storm are not cast; they are created directly on the stack. (The easy way to remember this is that if they were cast, they'd trigger their own Storm ability.)
Also, later, at 1:38:01 - Crim does have a maximum hand size 2 from Recycle, since it entered later and hand-size-modifying effects apply in timestamp order.
Is Crim resolving the multiple cascade triggers correctly throughout the video? I was under the impression that the first card you cascade into would be the last you resolve when you have multiples.
@@justinkopy3354 All four cascade triggers go on the stack. Then the topmost trigger resolves, which lets you cast a spell, which itself goes on top of the stack (on top of the three cascade triggers still there). So the first spell resolves before the other three cascade triggers do.
He misspoke then resolved the storm correctly, only drawing one card from up the beanstalk tho.
@@justinkopy3354 No yeah; the cascades do happen one at a time like that. Each cascade trigger finds the next card off the top and lets you cast it; when you do it gets put on top of the stack, above the other cascade triggers, so it resolves before the next cascade trigger finds the next card.
judge! at 1:16:48 when princess takes 1 damage from the creeping bloodsucker it should be 0 because Gisela halves damage rounded down
Any pod with Crim in it is always unhinged, omg. Excellent energy at this table, I laughed so much.
Worrying news for Maldhound: Yet another prominent member of the Anti-Green-Front falls.
This game is exactly why I hate (playing) green.
another one bites the green
Crim is still anti green, hes going undercover
mono green is only for mtg arena, or at least when you wanna teach someone how annoying it is
Tbf mald has also fallen to the green. Videos on deckbuilding Henzie and Prossh, playing Indoraptor and Henzie in commander shows, etc
"But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself.
Crim loved monogreen."
The editor who wrote "(Translator's note: Keikaku means plan)" is responsible for an unreasonable amount of laughter at my computer desk. XD
Oh dang I was swapped between watching and listening, must have missed that
editor understood the assignment
Still better than what I understood, which was "everything's going according to gay Goku"
@@NeroCM Oh, you don't know the meme. X3
@@newdarkcloud I know the trope. Does that count?
24:53 “Have you never run a government before?” This is gold
the contrast between Princess and Chase flirting with each other the whole game, Prof bullying Crim, and Crim being salty but winning anyway really captures the social dynamics at an average commander table
It's two VERY different kinds of sexual tension.
Any and none.
Flirting should never be at any commander table
@@sam7559 Wow you are such a loser
@@sam7559🤓🤓🤓
@@sam7559 boooooooo!!!!
Crim: Breaks the crown
Spice8Rack, in the distance: Hell yeah!
Viva la revolution baybee (to be read in spice’s voice if you didn’t already)
The best teachers are those that help guide their students to learn things for themselves! The Prof guiding Crim down the path of green is just a teacher doing what’s right!
Not Prof’s fault that Crim fell asleep in class. Again.
Princess Weekes! So excited to watch, I've hoping she'd feature on another episode of Shuffle Up and Play ever since watching her "guest lecture" on vampires on the Tolarian campus....
1:38:23 so worth seeing Crim IMMEDIATELY start sweating the BIGGEST bullets and then the sigh of relief. Lmfao
On one hand, I'm proud of Crim, for confronting his greatest enemy, Green.
Him and Prof have so much, "look what you made me do" energy, it's hilarious.
Princess and Chase were being delightful, in a completely different pod. 😂😂
what about the other hand?? don't leave us hanging, man!
...unless you only have the one hand, in which case, my bad
Prof: "I don't have any forests, so..."
Also Prof: *sitting right next to a Yavimaya*
He means he doesn't have any cards named Forest. Extraplanar lense cares about the name of the card. He meant he had no cards named Forest to tap for double mana.
The fact that prof gave crim a syllabus is amazing
Here for all the Gamers’ Haunt love, really an all-star LGS and a great community
seeing crim trying to be a nice person, but just also just being crim, and doing the salty crim things is so funny.
I think I prefer Crim not being on the show, his vibe kind of ruins the atmosphere.
@@prrplex5594don’t be such a tool. He seems okay
@@prrplex5594 I think I prefer when you don't comment on videos, your vibe kind of ruins the atmosphere.
BUUUURNNN
@@thunderryu0494 I'm happy you enjoyed the video, I'm not sorry my personal opinion offended you so much you think that I shouldn't share it in a public forum. I have a new opinion now, but don't worry I won't share it you can't handle it.
Hold on a sec, at 1:16:46 as a result of controlling gisela, the 1 damage that would normally hurt the gisela player gets half of it prevented (rounded up), hence the whole 1 damage gets prevented.
Yeah, all the prevented damage was done incorrectly. But it didn't matter in the end.
True, noticed it aswell
maybe the card would be clearer if it said half of that damage (rounded up) gets prevented, rather than putting rounded up at the end
Oh my God. He's finally playing Slivers on the next episode. The wait is almost over!
I love Crims reaction to Yu Yu Hakusho and how it’s the same reaction that Prof has to the Trix rabbit not being recognized 😂
I loved what I saw of Yu Yu Hakusho but I haven't seen much past the first season or two, so I didn't recognize half the characters.
Frankly I wouldn't have recognized Pu if I hadn't seen Botan
@@psymar every character on the deck box is in season 1, though... it's literally the main cast 0_o
I want a box with final season crew. Everyone just op and in their strongest form on a red and black or blue and Grey for yuskes demon form would go hard
I've been in Asheville, NC many times and have never swung by the LGS. I'll have to do that now!
Such a sweet community there. I’m also a regular and it’s the best LGS I’ve been to by a country mile community wise.
It’s my home store! We all love it. Come on down! Or up?
Which store?!
Looking forward to visiting it next time I'm in Asheville!
@@goldbergbrain definitely up :)
I orginally didnt beleieve Prof was unfairly targeted before but now he's playing a group hug deck and still being targeted.
Professor saying "The Beast!" and doing a Shawn Michaels Pose was my favorite part
Crim's last turn was insane. Rates up there with Spice8rack's infinite mana turn with that goblin deck.
Princess weekes, comment "prof have you never run a gov't before?" was amazing.
Incredibly entertaining game. I've never been more excited to see Crim pop off and Prof's deck get there so well. 14 minutes in the beginning of no gameplay and I still loved every minute
Ahh I know clover alters! We sell her stuff at my LGs too! Gorgeous work!!
I know, minor detail, but Giselas effect was played wrong: she prevents halfe the damage dealt to you and your permanents rounded up. So any 1dmg ping just dissipates to nothingness, and eg the indoraptor damage at around 1:20:55 would only be 1, since whats prevented is 3/2 rounded up = 2
Thank god someone knows
I loved the interactions this game, Chase in particular was so funny.
Also not that it really mattered, but as both the Second Doctor and Recycle modify hand size, they apply on the order they were cast, making the final hand size two.
Prof whipping out a primer is just too funny. That is wild. 😂😂😂
1:00:02 They revived the x-men show with x-men 97 very recently and it's really good! Even kept the same voice actors and animation style. That intro theme is also amazing.
This was by far the episode that made me laugh the most so far, what a game! I think that prof was really thoughtful in building that deck for Crim! And I would love to see that primer, too, or better a deck tech on that mono green storm!
18:52 Caltrops, never knew this card existed, love it. A reference to the epic 2/1 wall in the Legends expansion Wall of Caltrops.
Presumably it's a reference to the actual real-life thing called "caltrops"
That card goes hard in Sydri, Galvanic Genius. With WUB open you can always threaten killing all attackers, it's a nice stalling tool
@@Silphanisknow a guy who used it with bident of thassa to force everyone to kill their creatures on his caltrops
It's so wonderful that you can reconnect with an old student like that. Maybe he can help you with getting the Behind the Campus video? You helped out the Command Zone with theirs.
What I (truly) love about SU&P, is that I can watch the first 15 minutes, without a single card played, and still have a wonderful time listening to the banter! Keeo them coming Prof. You have my favorite series!
I've watched every episode of Shuffle Up & Play, this is by far my favourite episode. Perfect pod, bravo to all.
Sometimes I get “drain bramage” listening to the puns and dad jokes but I cannot stop watching them play magic since it’s a game I love!! Keep the videos coming!!!
13:00 here we see expressions of feminine love vs masculine love. Both pairs showing support and friendship in their own way.
I love the Lackluster calls to action so much 😂😂😂😂 it’s incredibly entertaining
Crim may have hated green before, but after this experience, it's definitely one of his top 5 colors.
Um actually, colorless is technically considered a color, so green being in his top 5 implies he likes it better than at least one other color.
I loved the Spice shout-out. I was thinking it when the Monarchy was broken
The Professor coming in with possibly the most fun homework of all time speaks to the validity of TCC's very real and very authentic accreditation.
Crim looks so manic at the end, almost feels like that it's always sunny conspiracy meme.
Reading the primer explains the primer!
the chemistry in this pod was amazing, thanks for bringing these people together and sharing this amazing experience with us
Crim manically performing that indeterminate combo at the end of the video was amazing!
Always love Crim, but always surprised that the 2nd nicest guy in MTG hasn't shown up. Much like the prof, _Seth otherwise known as Saffron Olive_ is heartwarming.
I so agree seeing Seth on an episode of Shuffle up and Play would literally make my year
Please no.
Whoa.... He hasn't been on?
50:12 Perfection
1:00:57 The RELIEF knowing that Crim wasn't about to storm off
1:22:55 - 1:38:10 "You don't have to be in Blue to play Blue" - Maldhound
1:16:43 Gisela should've negated the 1 damage to princess, because half of 1 is 0.5, which rounded up is 1
Same with all the odd numbers, they should've been rounded up, not down
It's your wholesome videos as of late that have been pushing me more and more to become a creator of myself. Not only to have the excuse of doing something I love in another way but also to interact more as you do with the community.
I'll sub if you do 💪🏻
I was just thinking ‘man, I should go watch the most recent episode of SU&P while I wait for the new one’. Thanks Prof!
21:17 Foreshadowing is a literary device in which a writer gives an advance hint of what is to come later in the story.
I payed attention in class.
Couldn't have *PAID that much attention 😂@@lucyarisato6850
1:16:31 the Bloodsucker should not deal damage to Princess because Gisela prevents damage rounded up
Just wow this game had it all. Love the guests, the engagement and laughter. Mono green storm was insane
Small note: Gisela prevents half of the damage dealt to you, rounded up. So if Gisela's controller would take 3, they instead take 1. And 1 damage becomes 0. It's the damage prevented that gets rounded up, not the damage dealt.
20:10 “well I don’t have any forests” - prof while his lands are also forests thanks to a card purple jacket lady played
If it wrong on how that card works it’s because I don’t know the vast amount of MTG very well I’ve only ever played Commander with Niv-mizzet Curiosity so
47:10 the trigger is for proof to draw a card, which will cause a new trigger to put the counter on Ominous Seas... I didn't see Prof draw at the trigger...
My God that was a wild turn for crim at the end. Prof ya have me anxious to see an in depth deck tech. I have been wanting to make it but now I have a great idea on how.
I wish you happy brewing and stratospheric turn-ceilings. We’re always glad to welcome new recruits to the Mono Green Legion. :)
@@shawnpanzegraf5642 lol thanks. I've been playing long enough I can run just about any build out there. My mono green deck is a monster IMO lol .
@@buddadragonmtg4848 Cool, I’m an old head myself. Stepped away during Urza’s Saga. Came back end of 2020 because someone finally mainstreamed a form of MtG that wasn’t Type II/Standard.
1:21:44 Princess’ quiet “let me borrow that top” sent me on SUCH a nostalgia trip out of nowhere 😂😂😂
Great bluff prof! And you had crim laughing and geeking out playing green !!! Loved it !!
The vibes were PHENOMENAL this episode!
Crim and prof are the true standard bearers of a teacher-student relationship
Haven't even gotten to the actual gameplay, and I have to say that the intro was wonderfully unhinged!
I've been following ManaCurves for YEARS, it's so nice to see her in my favorite MTG UA-cam channel!!
My god... I laughed soooo hard with this episode.
Gracias por tanto, perdón por tan poco.
Awesome vid, also hell yeah we get to see more Pleasant Kenobi on the channel next go round
Great vid. In American English, : A primer (pronounced "primmer") is a schoolbook, and a primer (rhyming with "climber") is the first coat of something, or preparation like the white stuff you roll onto drywall before you put on your real paint, or an explosive cap.
The pestilence with the white border is my favorite artwork of thay card! So good!!
Shoutout Princess! Had to double take seeing you in the thumbnail
That die roll gave the prof flashbacks of him in the game knights episode just getting pounded by ruhon
Love that Princess is back! Also, these puns are making my spine all rickety...
Remember, Gisela prevents half the damage, rounded up. So when an odd amount of damage would be dealt, the damage prevented is rounded up. When 1 damage would be done, 1 is prevented and therefore 0 damage is dealt. When 3 damage would be dealt, 1 damage is done instead, etc.
Ominous Seas is one of my favorite examples of a card being unplayable in 60 card and amazing in commander. i jam that thing into every deck i can, its such a fun wincon at casual tables
Man watching Crim flush a Storm count of 12 down the drain with no payoff was… something 1:00:50
i love the smile on profs face as he goes through the deck, he just loves seeing crim pop off with his deck, prof youre a great teacher haha
I enjoyed this episode more than o should have. Great game.
Princess' gisela had a couple misplays. Gisela prevents half the damage rounded up, so she takes the lesser damage. She would have taken nothing from the creeping bloodsucker and 1 from the enrage trigger.
I had such an amazing time watching this gettogether! Thank you
Just watching the sheer glee of Crim as he combos off in mono green was just... *chef's kiss*
The primer was amazing. I loved the fun interaction with Crim and the Professor vs Chase and Princess' different dynamics.
Awesome episode!
That final fakeout was hilarious!
I just gotta say, the fact Crim won just proves how good a teacher the Professor is
As a long time goldfish viewer Crim is 100% about the crews threat assessment. Richard always gets away with it! Much love to the crew!
Princess and Chase!!! Such a good episode!
I love the Professor. He never fails to get a laugh out of me. Never change kind gent.
Mana curves "I like it when you lose a little brain matter in your haircut" had me chuckling 😂 raptor just casual 10damage
It is so wild hearing my hometown show up in this video. God Speed to Gamer's Haunt and I shall miss thee Hillside Games
this must have been among the most entertaining mtg gameplay i ever saw online. thanks y'all
Crim and prof's chemistry is probably the highlight of the episode. Also had no idea chase goes to gamers haunt! its about an hour or so away from one of my flgs's!
This is why i love magic! Seeing the laughs and smiles were the best
11:35
That was
AMAZING
Just pulled straight from his pocket
1:22:55 JUDGE! He already drew for turn, meaning it is too late to remember the suspend trigger that should've happened during the upkeep step.
1:38:05 I think Crim would have a maximum handsize of 2 because Recycle would override the 'No maximum handsize" because it came into effect afterwards.