Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 Performance Mods: Part 2
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2020
- Here we go with the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650: Performance Modifications P2!
These are my first impressions after the bikes first 300-mile service and the installation of the first round of performance modifications. This Interceptor has been fitted with YSS rear shocks, DNA Stage 2 intake, Booster Plug and we're running Silkoline Pro 4. Finally, the bike is now fitted with Motone Customs up and over risers for an improved rider position.
Performance Mods:
DNA Air Filter (stage II with open bracket)
Booster Plug fuel system
Scorpion Red Power pipes (already installed)
YSS Top Line rear shocks
Motone Customs Up and Over Risers
Other Mods:
- LSL Naked Bars
- Big Port Grips
- Highsider Montana Mirrors
- BAAK Side Pannels
- BAAK Tank Pads
- Motogadget MoBlaze LED Indicators (rear)
- BAAK Rear Indicator brackets
- Heinz Bike ZC Fork Indicators
- Motone Customs Headlight Bracket
- Tec Bike Parts Rear Pegs
- Tec Bike Parts Chain Guard
- Tec Bike Parts Bash Plate
Future mods in the pipeline include
- YSS fork upgrade (parts have arrived)
- New tires (TBD)
- An improved braking system, looking at getting Brembo calipers fitted
- Switchgear overhaul
- Bash Plate
- LED headlight bulb
- M-blaze indicator pins up-front
- BAAK front indicator brackets
- LSL Super Bike Bars (changing from Naked to bars to compliment the new risers) - Авто та транспорт
You know you are enjoying it when you laugh maniacally to yourself 😂
So true, haha.
Mate it's your bike customize it as you want, love it
Motorcycling is a personal thing, do to your bike what you want and enjoy it. I now have one of these fabulous motorcycles and am in the process of doing just that. Cheers, Andy.
Nice one Andrew. Agreed
Flack for LED’s? 😂 it’s your bike, your style, do what you want. LED Headlight ? 👍🏼 seat? More aggressive tyres? Looking fine so far.
Spot on. Self doubt is a mofo I guess.
Bikes looking great....definitely do your own thing with your own bike!!. It's part of the joy....and there are some great add on parts available. You can really up the quality of the bike with some beautifully made accessories. Cheers, Steve
Good to see you have done your mods.and the bar raisers and bars look great .cracking upgrades 😊👍
Cheers Tony. Thanks for watching the video.
FWIW, your LED indicators look great, as do the other mods you've performed to date. Thank you for the time and effort you've put into sharing your build. I've got a Baker Express, so seeing your work and hearing your thoughts on the changes you've made is helpful in my own mod planning process. Hang in there.
Thanks mate. Great choice with the Baker Express, I nearly got that one too. I guess you have to stick to your vision with this stuff. It's easy to start doubting yourself though. Thanks for watching.
Well she looks great and sounds like a dream, loving the over run rumble as you come into a restricted speed zone. Get some luggage a tank bag and a Rukka jacket and you can tour the world! Very impressed.
Another great video, nice one!
Thank you! Cheers!
Uncle stu gives excellent advice, as for tappet adjustment, it’s really easy the way bike servicing should be and you won’t have a problem doing it yourself unlike the desmo service on my Ducati. Good content, if you like the indicators it’s your bike lol
Yes I watched that video, I might need to watch it a few more (hundred) times. I've got 3,000 miles before I need to worry about it so plenty of time to learn. Damn indicators, i'm loosing sleep over them! Look out for the next video, I think I have found my happy place. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for posting. I appreciate your efforts and advice. Great that you`re honest about the rear shocks. It can be difficult to not get carried away blinding reviews to justify parting with £400. My stock shocks are perfect. Set on the lowest height as I have a higher comfort custom seat and a huge rugged rear tyre. This unintended combination gives a really comfortable ride. ✌
Hehehe yes, the YSS rear preload is factory set to (I believe) circa 17 threads down. This is done to pre soften the spring from new prior to use. It would be akin to a back breaker to ride without adjustment from 17 turns - brave man. ☺
I found over several adjustments, across hundreds of miles, that backing it off to around 5 threads, and having rebound set at softest plus three notches set mine up to perfection for me (12 stone). But as you note, it's essential to get rear done prior to front - or indeed vise versa. The front springs, I think you'll find deliver the greatest improvement. The two together make the bike so Uber planted, so very confidence inspiring. No more drama on sketchy surfaces. You'll be overjoyed & amazed at the performance uplift!!!! Enjoy.
Nice video mate....
Haha, yes it certainly was a backbreaker. I thought i'd give it a try out of the box but very quickly regretted it. I'm going to stick with about 7 for a while to help speed up the break in, i'll probably back it off after a couple of hundred miles.
@@WildlifeMoto that is Exactly the process I followed. And yes, it's important to add many miles after each adjustment to judge how the springs 'bed down' to the new setting. It's fun, fine tuning until you hit the sweet spot jackpot of perfection. As for the booster plug, I hope you'll find the roll off throttle way smoother, and engine running somewhat cooler. Also, wemoto do not - or did not supply yss recommended fork oil. I went with Silkolene fork oil, a product which speaks for its self by superlative performance.
I got my spring kit from Tec. It came with a "free" bottle of 15 Watt YSS branded oil. Not sure if I should use this or go with the highly regarded Silkolene oil. It would be a right PITA to have to change it.
@@WildlifeMoto I see the dilemma you are in.
If I may, had wemoto supplied yss fork oil to me (they don't/didn't even sell the yss oil for the yss fork springs they sell) then I would have happily used the recommended yss fork oil.
They didn't so for me, I chose Silkolene because I know first hand, how good it is.
I don't suppose at the end of the day there would be a majorly noticeable difference, given the Interceptors performance. Its perhaps merely a question of 'zigging' this way, or 'zagging' that way. Whichever path zig or zag, once made forget over thinking, just keep on going, decision made.
Ditto that with indicators - do not let detractors make you doubt your own choice for your own bike. As you stated, RE themselves intended this bike (a la triumph bonneville ) always to be a starting platform for making it your own. (or not) Ye pays ye money, ye make ye own choice. Keep up the great work, it's All good mate.....
@@daveh9003 thanks for the great advice.
Ref suspension, The hardness is more likely due to having too much compression damping.
Set the dynamic sag for your weight, then adjust the damping to get the ride control to suit your riding style.
Yes, I've not changed any of the factory settings yet (apart from backing off the Pre Load). When I start playing around i'll upload my findings. Thanks for the tip.
@@WildlifeMoto I just finished setting up the rear YSS shocks on my Interceptor. I found that changing the sag did not alter comfort at all so I left it at 30mm (not 30mm of preload at the preload adjustment nut, but of suspension travel). For rebound and damping at 15 clicks as it came from the factory it was WAY too hard. I found that at 3 to 5 clicks for compression (screw at the top) and 10 clicks for rebound it feels realy nice for every day riding. Ill play with it some more of course, but for now it feels great. I weigh 91kg for reference.
Anyhow, what the point is, dont try to fix comfort by adjusting preload on a fully adjustable shock. Set the preload according to the correct measurement, which should be 25% to 30% of total travel, and then play with damping and rebound. Damping will have more of an effect on overall comfort.
I used to live in Brentwood, Essex and now live in the 'States on the same latitude as Barcelona - much hotter. Never had a overheating problem with my iPhone! Love the series and keep modding it....bar end mirrors? Best, Pete.
We had some crazy hot days this summer. Bar ends mirror, you bet! Check out the latest video on the channel :) Cheers.
If you have a very soft spring on the front and a harsh spring on the back then the front springs will not allow the rear spring to work properly by absorbing more than their fair share of bumps. If you had no damper on the rear the front forks still compress or slacken when the rear wheel hit a bump or fell down a hole. It is why just front forks work well on a mountain bike - they still do their job when the rear wheel hits a bump.
Agreed. I’ve had the YSS set up installed front and back for a few weeks. I’m slowly getting it dialled in. Probably needs a few more rides to get it fully sorted.
Nice video mate. I feel like I’m watching Baron Von Grumble’s younger more sensible brother.
Haha, thank you Sir :)
Led great 👍 less power draw. Make it yours.
So if you do your own servicing you loose the 3 years warranty and breakdown cover . I’ve worked on bikes all my life and don’t like anyone messing with my bikes !
Fair point well made re 'modernising' the look of your thoroughly modern 2020 RE! And the sound is gorgeous, even more so now you hv more revs to play with. But I wonder about those YSS shocks. You've gone from 17 turns to 7 & they're still way too hard, with not much adjustment left. Possibly a change of springs? Or a chat with Hagons - quite local to you!
Thanks Hugh. I think the YSS shocks just take some time to bed in. I've not even started playing with the damping yet. I'll post an update after a few hundred miles and some playing. They certainly feel much more competent so far, just very harsh at the moment.
@@WildlifeMoto I'm reasonably certain those shocks will be more than fine once they're broken in and adjusted. (I have heard no complaints about YSS shocks ever.)
Sounds good.. you thinking about a sprocket change up or down? I'm a big fan of touring style windshields. One with easy removal and in a bubble type coverage. Engine guards with highway pegs I can envision. Corbin touring seat with passenger back rest .
I did my own full service on the Interceptor it was very simple , just take your time..
Yep, I've got some time to get my head around it. I'll give it a go
Just a suggestion, you can check out the Motone website for retro styled indicators which has a Black Custom Billet Indicator which suits the Interceptor and the Bonni alike. It will complete the look, though it’s a bit costly. One is £64.99 and the other is £129.99, but trust me, it will look just awesome!
Thanks for the suggestion. You'll see in later videos that I have now fitted Motogadget M-blaze pins on the back and front of the bike. These pins are almost invisible when inactive, I personally think this is best look. Don't forget that the original version of this bike (and other British twins) did not have any indicators. Thanks to modern tech, we can go back to that simplistic look, yet still have very bright indicators when active.
LED’s are too tiny and hard to see on sunny day and foggy weather. So I would stack two LED indicators on each side both front and back to make them brighter and bigger. They consume way less power compared to incandescent bulbs. The wavelengths of LED’s and incandescent bulbs are different. Halogen/ incandescent bulbs have longer wavelength and has greater penetration in a low visibility environment like foggy or rainy day whereas LED(after market) have shorter wavelengths and are suitable with clear visibility environment and due to lower wavelengths it has less visibility on a foggy or rainy day. A reason why many automobiles have LED headlights and Halogen brights and fog lamps.
Hi Krishna, these LED's are really bright. I think they might be safer than the stock amber turn signals which can be hard to gauge if lit or not in sunny conditions. They are also E Marked, I guess that means that have passed some kind of safety test/ requirement too.
I like everything you've done so far with the single exception of the front blinkers which to my eye look out of place (i.e., to "futuristic" looking for a retro). TEC parts has a full suite of led lights in one package (front and rear blinkers and a tail light) that is very nice and a good bargain.
The boost plug doesn't add power; its purpose is to improve the lean factory air/fuel mixture on acceleration (i.e., to meet Euro compliance pollution standards. It increases fuel to the mix at low RPMs only during acceleration).
If you want power gains from the exhaust side, the header pipes need to be changed bc that's where the flow restriction problem is.
Such a great looking bike! Sounds awesome, too, with those pipes. Carry on, mate; so far, so good.
Cheers Rick. Checkout some of the newer videos on the channel. The blinkers in this video were pretty short lived. I’ve also some some videos on the Hitchcocks Freeflow headers (great mod). Thanks for watching.
@@WildlifeMoto Yeah, I saw a few after I'd already responded. Did you notice much difference with the headers? (I would imagine it would be quite noticeable.)
You notice the change in pressure straight away. Bike is much more free revving and way less engine braking. I’ve not tested extensively, but I’m enjoying the result so far.
I agree about the original indicators I'll be changing them soon but I'll be staying more traditional ( once I find ones I like ) , but its your bike do what the hell you like and balls to all the nay sayers !
The most traditional route for the Interceptor is to not have any indicators (just like the original bike). Here in the UK, indicators only became a legal requirement from 1986 onwards. With that in mind, i'll be going with the Mo Blaze pins to hide them away when not in use. Thankfully, LED technology can help us to get the most original look possible while staying safe and legal.
Your side mirror is beautiful! Where did you get it? Ill be having my own INT650 2 weeks from now! I already got my modification ready!!
Thanks. They are Highsider Montana mirrors. Good luck with your mods 👍
I love the latest mods. Did you need to add any spacers between the Motone Headlight Brackets and the Headlight? I was originally looking at the TEC Bike Parts Brackets, but I prefer the Motone option, despite the significant difference in price.
Yes I think I used 10mm spacers
Valves are easy mate, they don't normally go that far out of tolerance, much better to do your own service as you know what's been done👍
You should certainly do what you want with it, your bike, your choice. Personally I prefer drivers to be able see me and to have a clue where I'm turning so leds aren't for me
These are very bright.
Which rearview mirrors are you using? :) Great mods, BTW
Highsider Montana Mirrors. Thank you.
You should join the RE Interceptor UK Facebook group. Lots of people on there would be keen to watch your videos. Where do you head to when you go for a ride from North London?
Cheers! Local(ish) rides are mainly up around Hertfordshire or out East around Essex.
@@WildlifeMoto Thought so! I'll keep an eye out :)
Hi I'm getting on in years and with the standard bars find that after about an hour of riding the pressure on my hands is a bit of a problem. Do you think the bar risers you fitted would help, I'm 6ft 1in and 88kg. Just about to have my 3K mile service really enjoying the bike and your chanel. Take care.
Thank you. Yes I do think these risers would help you. By riding in a more upright position you'll have less pressure on your wrists.
I like to try to make a bike easier to ride either by increasing comfort or functionality
where cables and brake hose longenough for risers ????
There are a lot of top bike builders cafe race/scrambler using led ! So what’s the problem do what you want it’s your project sod the nay sayers!
Totally agree. I had a few negative comments about modernising this bike, and it did make me a little unsure about my direction. Seeing how the bike has turned out, i'm glad I did what I did. Thanks mate.
yeah indicators took me a while to figure out where and wich , now i got kellermann atto dark on the place where the rear pillion handle is mounted to with a 90° bend indicator bracket. so they are allmost invisible when turned off
Sweet! They look great. I also thought about placing them here too. What did you do up front?
@@WildlifeMoto motogadget bar end indicators with twinton headlight brakets . just waiting for the new clip ons to arive
Hey love your videos! At some point you said something about revs climbing but not making actual difference in performance and acceleration ,
. I notice a similar thing where people tell me to shift gear taking it to its optimum evel of torque which is around 4000 to 4500k rpm , I did that but my problem is that I notice that the first gear doesn't seem to make much progress in speed after the 4000 rpm , However on a colder engine the first gear responses very well to throttle but after a while of warm up say 5 kms on a busy traffic the performance of the first gear drops , it does retain its pulling power but beyond 3000 rpm it seems pointless to rev it further . So i shift to second gear . People say I was shifting too early . Do you also notice similar issue on first gear after riding it for 10 -15min when engine is warmed up enough . I think is it with all bikes that throttle response is much more crisper on a colder engine compared to when the bike is in traffic ?
Hi Vila’s. In my case it was because the mechanic who serviced my bike took out all the free play in the clutch. This meant the clutch couldn’t fully disengage and was slipping at higher RPM. I spotted it immediately and fixed the problem by slackening off the cable. It sounds to me like you have a similar issue. When cold you should have about 3mm of free movement in the clutch lever before it starts to pull on the cable.
@@WildlifeMoto thanks , I will try that
Did you have the bike tilted over towards you when you were showing the Silkolene oil? The sight glass looked overfilled.
Must admit I just used the standard brackets so I could have the Enfield screen but got them powder coated black, did the fork brace, brake pedal and gear lever at the same time...looks better than the 'silver' I think. I'm with you on not feeling bad about making the bike mine...looked at Triumph, Guzzi and BMW but don't think I'd feel as comfortable modding those. I'm still looking to replace the clunky standard indicators...Alchemy seem to do some nice bullet shaped ones.
Hi Alan, yes it was on a slight tilt, but the level is also quite high. Yes, that's what I love about this bike, it's a simple platform that makes customisation easy (just like the bikes of the real Cafe Racer days). RF did exactly the right thing by putting all the RnD into the engine and frame, the rest is basic stuff that you don't mind stripping away and replacing (if you want). I've decided to get the Mo Blaze pins up front. These effectively hide the indicators when not in use (but very bright when active), a look much more in line with the original Interceptor (that didn't have indicators at all).
@@WildlifeMoto , one of the fantastic attributes of these bikes is the great price. It gives plenty of wriggle room to do your own thang to make the bike feel like your own.
@@GraemeBlore Absolutely, it's a great platform for modifications!
Hi.If your front brake hose is getting tight run it over the frame top rail and out from under the fuel tank on the right side. This will give you loads of slack. just need to lift the top yoke . easy. RE cable routing is not good.
Spot on sir. That’s exactly what has been done (check out the latest video).
Spoke wheels bring a lot of look to the overall appearance but can you find some affordable alloy options and heard 150 section can be put as rear wheel wothout modification is that possible brother
I'm not sure sir. I love the stock wheels on this bike so i've not looked into changing them.
Alloys ruin the look tbh
Not sure if you will see this comment as it is on an old video, but if you do, I wondered now your rear shocks have bedded in what sag or number of turns preload you are running.
Not sure of the exact set-up. I think I have around 7 clicks of Preload.
I found with the BAAK tail tidy/mo blaze LED combo that the indicators only just stick out with a regular size number plate, how did you get yours to stick out so far? Thanks!
It's a smaller number plate :)
@@WildlifeMoto Cheeky! Fair enough looks great
The mods will end up costing more than the bike 🤔 but cool project. I like to watch the videos. Thanks
Haha. Let’s hope not. As long as this bike costs less than a W800, I’m happy.
Wildlife Moto the blinkers upfront are fine mate. Or else you will be changing stuff forever :)
@@247ADIE Nope, I'm still smiling. The bike is well within the allocated budget and it's better than I could have hoped for.
Hai is there any vibration in handle bar after changing
Nope, no vibrations to report :)
Nothing wrong with led indicator, and yes the original ones are shit , But it's the modern look that doesn't work, motone does some lovely led billet indicators and brackets. Dave moss suspension tuning,
You mentioned plastic indicators.
Idicators on bikes have been made from plastic for donkeys years. I've owned BSA, Triumph, Norton, BMW and umpteen Japanese bikes that all came equipped with indicators made from plastic.
What do you want your indicators made from?
I have no problem with high quality plastic components. Fake chrome covered plastic? No thanks. If it’s shiny, it had better be metal.
@@WildlifeMoto Lucas indicators on BSA, Triumph & Norton were plastic with chrome.
Try the handel bar end led indicators....
Yes that would look good
Good suggestion. I may do the same but before I do some first hand experience/observations from Mr W. Moto would be welcome.
Mate this bike is made to be customised
We have car purists, now we'll start having bike purists as well...
Absolutely. I think I upset them the moment I threw away the plastic wrapper on the tool bag.
The std down pipes have a restrictive inner pipe,the 2 into1 tec pipe has a larger bore and is also alot lighter.
Yes, however I just don’t like the look of that 2-1 set up. It takes something away from the style of this bike. I’m holding out for someone to produce a well made free flowing header system for the twin pipes.
I believe tec are developing a 2 into 2 pipe ?
@@SteveW67 He's also doing a high scrambler type pipe that's just about ready for market. Decisions, decisions...and I haven't even bought mine yet! Baker Express, natch.
Bro,can we get these things in india?
Best to check with the individual retailers. I have included details of the parts in the description. Good luck!
As I said, rideability/driveability ;-)
100%
You know the 4K rpm run in period is 500 miles? 😂😂😂
Damn it. 😂
No, it's 500kms not miles as per the factory manual.
Richard Dodd I’m afraid you are wrong. The first running I period is 500 miles (800km) as per the owners manual. See page 52. Not that I think it will make much difference.
Power = Torque x Revs. You cannot increase torque at any given engine speed without also increasing power too.
Engine cold, start no throttle, let idle for 10 minutes, go for a ride.
I’m not sure that this is actually needed.
@@WildlifeMoto TEC bike parts recommends doing this. I literally heard mine change. Can’t hurt 😎