I really hope this series keeps going. I don’t get all the people complaining about it being to dry or not fun enough. It’s supposed to be educational, I recently got 3 of my friends in sc2 because of these guides and they like the fact that it’s a serious and structured guide.
I think people complain because the ladder is wilder in term. Of cheese and builds. A lot of pig's viewer were going for B2gm macro build and the viewers want to know Ho to respond to wild cheese.
@@Kradukmanthey should petition to start a new guide for handling different kinds of cheeses from all 3 races. Instead it seems people want to pull support from a guide that’s meant to get new players into StarCraft while showing them the proper fundamentals of the game because they are bored.
@@13YoJest13 I think in general that you can defend with his build. Except maybe for ça on rush. Or you don't know the response to a 12 pool or baneling all in. These response are better in the ladder version but you can find that in vibe B2gm or even the previous pig's B2gm. Also you don't get much info from the scouting in this version since almost no one is going for an aggressive build (even if the response in lower league is generally macro, build. On high ground, wall of and bunker).
@@Kradukman Agreed on being able to defend with this build. I've gotten up to Gold 1 so far on this build. Reviewing rewinds and building a response to certain types of cheeses AND continuing with the macro cycle/build have been all very good responses to cheese strats. A lot of times people will just quit out once the cheese strat is defended and they see my bioball/tanks running up to their base.
@@samov497 yeah, it got me to D2 with a 1-1 timing and one more tank. But I already knew how to deal with a canon rush or proxy rax (thanks to Vibe's B2gm that got me to plat 1 and taught me when to take fights, to not panicking and keep macroing. I think Pig does a better job to set up the fight properly.)
I used to be a Diamond player 10 years ago but ony just coming back to the game. Really appreciating all your effort in teaching the game gradually through the ranks. Thanks mate!
Pig I made it to diamond today! After a bronze placement last season, first time D as terran and dare I say playing much better than my diamond protoss of the past. Thank you so much! It's a fun climb. I have not used any of the builds past the introduction of the reaper yet btw. TvZ was the best matchup until plat, you really got me over losing to banelings. In Plat and over now TvT has become the strongest matchup, I supposed because opponents cheese so much and lose reapers every game. I dont know why TvP has been the hardest, but I guess 1) siege tanks dont shine as much and 2) the plat/diamond cannon rushes are a bit stronger. Can I get to masters?
in TvP you want to time your push for when the Toss drop its 3rd, get 3 rax stim bio 1 medivc and 2 tanks and most Toss will crumble under. I'm a 3600+ toss player and now also 3100 Terran, since I know Toss better I can time my pushes for the weak times of Toss. get loads of marauders that will blast through archons immortal colossus
💙 its amazing the way you teach Pig, I always learn a lot from this series!... u take me out of silver, now im on plat 3 just in time for this :D thank u, im sure i can get to gm following your videos.
Great series PiG, I started playing a month and a half ago and I’ve hit Plat thanks to this guide. But I’ve been plateauing hard floating in low plat. It feels like if I haven’t won the game with my first big attack with our first army, then I will struggle in the late game due to a lack of game knowledge. Not sure how to improve at learning how to properly respond after 10 min? I’ve also struggled into builds where there’s a lot of early aggression. I’ll try my best to defend and play up the ramp but I’ll make mistakes that lead to losses. Especially struggling vs P and storm. I usually get stuck outside their 3rd or 4th trying to creep in to their base. Not necessarily asking for exact responses, just looking for resources to understand the game at a deeper level.
Low plat is a battle and not as easy as the UA-camrs make it look lol. Another guy on UA-cam called vibe has a good series which helps with the 10+ mark. But just so you know it took me 1400 games to go from plat to d3 with Protoss. 600 with Zerg after knowing a bit about the game. Having a battle with Terran. I think there is a sweet spot between the two guides
Hi PiG!! I was that dirty DT toss in game 6. I actually just modified your PvZ DT drop build from the last B2GM to do it with a proxy gate and transition to charge + Archon. Super excited to learn the new Toss B2GM builds. Thanks for the great content and for being an awesome advocate for the community. Love the new organically farmed B2GM concept.
I find, that if you’re trying to not use all army hot key, it is helpful to get used to setting up a camera location where you have your rally. You can change it during the game, but I found this solved many of the situations where I wanted to “f2”
glad you are covering plat, thanks to your guides, I have gained the courage of going 1v1 and my first 5 ranked matching games, it landed me right into plat 3 lol, plat players are waaay more challenging for my level
@@anthonyvillalpando1694 hahahaha this was after playing a bunch of 3v3 and applying a lot of the build order, it takes a lot of memorizing at first but it does eventually become muscle memory
Great guide thanks! I've made it to number 1 of Plat tier 1 using your builds from a year ago. I've started trying this build and I really like the widow mine strategy vs zerg. I find TvT the hardest though. I always get rushed with mech really early.
definitely hop on my discord and post a replay asking for advice in the terran discussion channel, lots of experienced players in there coaching each other and giving great advice, hopefully can help you out in TvT! discord.gg/SkhbzCM
In the first game vs Terran how does PiG not risk gettting steamrolled by just about anything in the first five minutes or so ? He has a reaper, a tank and a couple of marines. I would have thought just about any "early timing" build would wreck him. Like say 6-8 hellions showing up and blowing past the bunker and killing every single SCV at the natural and possibly forcing the natural to lift and retreat....Or even a liberator or a battlecruiser showing up. He doesn't even scout the enemy base with the reaper or do any scans to see what then enemy is building EDIT: I rewatched he does have a medivac by about 4:30 and more like 12 marines in total around 5:30 before his drop gets destroyed EDIT2: Ah at 12:20 someone comments "Hidden Battlecruiser could lose you this game" and PiG responds....I'm still a bit confused though because PiGs response is "then next step is to..." well it's the next step at the 12:30 mark. How fast can a Battecruiser be out ? It's about 4 minutes if I'm not mistaken
Hi PiG! Thank you for your guides, they got me to about 3k MMR with Zerg, now I want to learn some Terran because losing to Terran makes me feel SALTY. So, considering the recent changes to the Widowmine, would you still recommend this build for TvZ? Is it fine as is, or do you suggest changing some things? Thanks again, have a nice day!
Press the drop button, click on the medivac itself. It will drop units one by one while moving. If you click drop on the ground, it drops once on location and stop dropping when you give a move command.
@@Gredddfe you click drop on medivac, this trigger the drop while moving, then you move your medivac around and they'll keep dropping even if you issue another move command. You need to push the stop button to stop the drop.
Just drop hotkey + left click on the medivac (repeat for each medivac). After that you can keep giving other commands and they'll keep unloading until empty or given a stop command
thanks @@PiGCoaching - at 12:02 you changed directions of your drop. is that click med -> right click drop -> left click -> drop new location to left click?
@@PiGCoaching Watching your videos for few years now, play very larely, 500games lifetime but go into Diamond with friend 2v2. Just trying to train build order and macro cycles D
Hey Pig, are these opponents just queued up opponents? I am guessing the opponents are given the opportunity to be selected for viewership but I think that kind of ruins the B2GM concept. I am a fan of chess and the 0 to hero format but its flawed if the opponents don't just get randomly queued. Sorry for the negative viewpoint, I am grateful to have a guide that really works to follow regardless! PS I don't think slowing down in speed adds or detracts from the realism. If the build is good and the mechanics are good it works regardless of the opponent. It is proof of concept.
The way this B2GM series works is that he asks for volunteers in his Twitch chat within a certain MMR range (in this video would be the MMR range for Platinum players). So they have skills that are representative for that league. I was the DT Protoss. For this episode, one of the mods just took down our MMR and race and then created the lobbies for the custom match. I wasn’t told to do a specific build, wasn’t asked if I had a build in mind, was simply given my choice of map. I was just picked in the order that I entered the chat. No other qualifications except that my MMR was within the range. The reason he’s not doing this on ladder is due to smurfing issues. He has a video about this at the beginning of B2GM where he explains the moral/ethical dilemma this posses (enjoyment of viewers at the expense of all the players that didn’t sign up to get stomped by a former pro player).
hey, I'm zerg diamond2, I wanted in 2024 to reach diamond with all 3 races, my terran was plat 3, with about 5 games a day, it took me 3 weeks to reach diamond, I had to study and learn standard build for all matchup and study my replay and say, right now I should build this or that, as rehearsal, so today I've reached diamond and I'm very proud of myself, it was hard. I also beaten a smurf who leave all the matchup he doesn't like. I played at my best and it was super rewarding. next is diamond as protoss, it should be easier since protoss is the no skill amove easy race hahaha
As a plat 2 Terran I feel like the first 3-5 games of this episode are guaranteed losses for any normal plat player. The mechanics he needed to use to win aren’t plat lvl. Idk how the opponents are ranked but it ain’t plat.
Pig is absolutely irreplaceable in the RTS Space. The only reason I can be even remotely competitive is because of him and his Instructional video. 🐷🐖🐽
I really hope this series keeps going. I don’t get all the people complaining about it being to dry or not fun enough. It’s supposed to be educational, I recently got 3 of my friends in sc2 because of these guides and they like the fact that it’s a serious and structured guide.
I think people complain because the ladder is wilder in term. Of cheese and builds. A lot of pig's viewer were going for B2gm macro build and the viewers want to know Ho to respond to wild cheese.
@@Kradukmanthey should petition to start a new guide for handling different kinds of cheeses from all 3 races.
Instead it seems people want to pull support from a guide that’s meant to get new players into StarCraft while showing them the proper fundamentals of the game because they are bored.
@@13YoJest13 I think in general that you can defend with his build. Except maybe for ça on rush. Or you don't know the response to a 12 pool or baneling all in. These response are better in the ladder version but you can find that in vibe B2gm or even the previous pig's B2gm. Also you don't get much info from the scouting in this version since almost no one is going for an aggressive build (even if the response in lower league is generally macro, build. On high ground, wall of and bunker).
@@Kradukman Agreed on being able to defend with this build. I've gotten up to Gold 1 so far on this build. Reviewing rewinds and building a response to certain types of cheeses AND continuing with the macro cycle/build have been all very good responses to cheese strats. A lot of times people will just quit out once the cheese strat is defended and they see my bioball/tanks running up to their base.
@@samov497 yeah, it got me to D2 with a 1-1 timing and one more tank. But I already knew how to deal with a canon rush or proxy rax (thanks to Vibe's B2gm that got me to plat 1 and taught me when to take fights, to not panicking and keep macroing. I think Pig does a better job to set up the fight properly.)
I used to be a Diamond player 10 years ago but ony just coming back to the game. Really appreciating all your effort in teaching the game gradually through the ranks. Thanks mate!
Thanks so much mate! Welcome back to the ladder
Have been watching every part of the guide religiously and tried all the builds and variations myself afterwards. My terran improved a lot!
Such a good guide. You're the first UA-cam I've paid money to! I had to when I considered how much effort you put into it, and the quality 👌
ty so much steve! Really appreciate the kind words and support mate
Pig I made it to diamond today! After a bronze placement last season, first time D as terran and dare I say playing much better than my diamond protoss of the past. Thank you so much! It's a fun climb.
I have not used any of the builds past the introduction of the reaper yet btw.
TvZ was the best matchup until plat, you really got me over losing to banelings.
In Plat and over now TvT has become the strongest matchup, I supposed because opponents cheese so much and lose reapers every game.
I dont know why TvP has been the hardest, but I guess 1) siege tanks dont shine as much and 2) the plat/diamond cannon rushes are a bit stronger.
Can I get to masters?
in TvP you want to time your push for when the Toss drop its 3rd, get 3 rax stim bio 1 medivc and 2 tanks and most Toss will crumble under. I'm a 3600+ toss player and now also 3100 Terran, since I know Toss better I can time my pushes for the weak times of Toss. get loads of marauders that will blast through archons immortal colossus
Just made it to gold 3 today after placing in silver 2 earlier this morning. Thanks for the helpful content!
I finally got to Plat with this B2GM guide, but I kept on getting killed by other Plat players, so this video is perfect for me.
💙 its amazing the way you teach Pig, I always learn a lot from this series!... u take me out of silver, now im on plat 3 just in time for this :D thank u, im sure i can get to gm following your videos.
Love these videos can’t wait to see how you refine the build into something that is ideal for a longer macro game
Great series PiG, I started playing a month and a half ago and I’ve hit Plat thanks to this guide. But I’ve been plateauing hard floating in low plat. It feels like if I haven’t won the game with my first big attack with our first army, then I will struggle in the late game due to a lack of game knowledge. Not sure how to improve at learning how to properly respond after 10 min? I’ve also struggled into builds where there’s a lot of early aggression. I’ll try my best to defend and play up the ramp but I’ll make mistakes that lead to losses. Especially struggling vs P and storm. I usually get stuck outside their 3rd or 4th trying to creep in to their base. Not necessarily asking for exact responses, just looking for resources to understand the game at a deeper level.
Low plat is a battle and not as easy as the UA-camrs make it look lol.
Another guy on UA-cam called vibe has a good series which helps with the 10+ mark.
But just so you know it took me 1400 games to go from plat to d3 with Protoss.
600 with Zerg after knowing a bit about the game.
Having a battle with Terran.
I think there is a sweet spot between the two guides
Game three is actually 24:27, if someone wants to update the description to get the timecodes right. :)
Hi PiG!! I was that dirty DT toss in game 6. I actually just modified your PvZ DT drop build from the last B2GM to do it with a proxy gate and transition to charge + Archon.
Super excited to learn the new Toss B2GM builds. Thanks for the great content and for being an awesome advocate for the community. Love the new organically farmed B2GM concept.
cheers mate
I find, that if you’re trying to not use all army hot key, it is helpful to get used to setting up a camera location where you have your rally. You can change it during the game, but I found this solved many of the situations where I wanted to “f2”
Best tutor for starters! Thank you PiG for such helpful vid
glad you are covering plat, thanks to your guides, I have gained the courage of going 1v1 and my first 5 ranked matching games, it landed me right into plat 3 lol, plat players are waaay more challenging for my level
oh 5 games plat humble brag??? da hell... Why am I such a donut?
@@anthonyvillalpando1694 hahahaha this was after playing a bunch of 3v3 and applying a lot of the build order, it takes a lot of memorizing at first but it does eventually become muscle memory
Great guide thanks! I've made it to number 1 of Plat tier 1 using your builds from a year ago. I've started trying this build and I really like the widow mine strategy vs zerg. I find TvT the hardest though. I always get rushed with mech really early.
definitely hop on my discord and post a replay asking for advice in the terran discussion channel, lots of experienced players in there coaching each other and giving great advice, hopefully can help you out in TvT! discord.gg/SkhbzCM
awesome thanks!@@PiGCoaching
In the first game vs Terran how does PiG not risk gettting steamrolled by just about anything in the first five minutes or so ? He has a reaper, a tank and a couple of marines. I would have thought just about any "early timing" build would wreck him. Like say 6-8 hellions showing up and blowing past the bunker and killing every single SCV at the natural and possibly forcing the natural to lift and retreat....Or even a liberator or a battlecruiser showing up. He doesn't even scout the enemy base with the reaper or do any scans to see what then enemy is building
EDIT: I rewatched he does have a medivac by about 4:30 and more like 12 marines in total around 5:30 before his drop gets destroyed
EDIT2: Ah at 12:20 someone comments "Hidden Battlecruiser could lose you this game" and PiG responds....I'm still a bit confused though because PiGs response is "then next step is to..." well it's the next step at the 12:30 mark. How fast can a Battecruiser be out ? It's about 4 minutes if I'm not mistaken
thanks!
Hi PiG! Thank you for your guides, they got me to about 3k MMR with Zerg, now I want to learn some Terran because losing to Terran makes me feel SALTY.
So, considering the recent changes to the Widowmine, would you still recommend this build for TvZ? Is it fine as is, or do you suggest changing some things? Thanks again, have a nice day!
Really love this series!
1:30:50 Holy Alamo, Batman!
Zerg won that game for sure.
What was the drop micro at 12:00? You seemed to be able to issue repeated move commands while also dropping from all at once.
Press the drop button, click on the medivac itself. It will drop units one by one while moving. If you click drop on the ground, it drops once on location and stop dropping when you give a move command.
@@KradukmanThe medivacs were moving all around though, not just in a straight line.
@@Gredddfe you click drop on medivac, this trigger the drop while moving, then you move your medivac around and they'll keep dropping even if you issue another move command. You need to push the stop button to stop the drop.
you've easily got the best B2GM build guides,
how to drop like @12:05? a drop -> cancel drop -> drop -> cancel (repeat) button combo?
Just drop hotkey + left click on the medivac (repeat for each medivac). After that you can keep giving other commands and they'll keep unloading until empty or given a stop command
thanks @@PiGCoaching - at 12:02 you changed directions of your drop. is that click med -> right click drop -> left click -> drop new location to left click?
Thanks for the videos, PiG!!
i'm not used to using camera location is that bad ?
Love your work ! Thanks for making me play again after 11 years :D and getting platinum aha
THANK YOU PIG FOR YOUR VIDs!!!!!
Storm gets me every time.
Nice!
this looks exactly like Bronze 2 in EU server lol. Learned everything from your videos though
a lot of the players I'm vsing are EU plat players, some diamond 3 :)
@@PiGCoaching Watching your videos for few years now, play very larely, 500games lifetime but go into Diamond with friend 2v2. Just trying to train build order and macro cycles D
So often just drops that i dont even look at win games because it messes up opponoents game
I'm D2/D3 but this still helps me lol especially in TVT
Hey Pig, are these opponents just queued up opponents? I am guessing the opponents are given the opportunity to be selected for viewership but I think that kind of ruins the B2GM concept. I am a fan of chess and the 0 to hero format but its flawed if the opponents don't just get randomly queued. Sorry for the negative viewpoint, I am grateful to have a guide that really works to follow regardless!
PS I don't think slowing down in speed adds or detracts from the realism. If the build is good and the mechanics are good it works regardless of the opponent. It is proof of concept.
The way this B2GM series works is that he asks for volunteers in his Twitch chat within a certain MMR range (in this video would be the MMR range for Platinum players). So they have skills that are representative for that league. I was the DT Protoss. For this episode, one of the mods just took down our MMR and race and then created the lobbies for the custom match. I wasn’t told to do a specific build, wasn’t asked if I had a build in mind, was simply given my choice of map. I was just picked in the order that I entered the chat. No other qualifications except that my MMR was within the range.
The reason he’s not doing this on ladder is due to smurfing issues. He has a video about this at the beginning of B2GM where he explains the moral/ethical dilemma this posses (enjoyment of viewers at the expense of all the players that didn’t sign up to get stomped by a former pro player).
Brand new to the game, got Plat in under a week. WOOP
damn dude well done!
hey, I'm zerg diamond2, I wanted in 2024 to reach diamond with all 3 races, my terran was plat 3, with about 5 games a day, it took me 3 weeks to reach diamond, I had to study and learn standard build for all matchup and study my replay and say, right now I should build this or that, as rehearsal, so today I've reached diamond and I'm very proud of myself, it was hard. I also beaten a smurf who leave all the matchup he doesn't like. I played at my best and it was super rewarding. next is diamond as protoss, it should be easier since protoss is the no skill amove easy race hahaha
eyyyyyyyyy that's huge mate! Good job steadily applying yourself to hit a goal most SC players will never reach. Well done
As a plat 2 Terran I feel like the first 3-5 games of this episode are guaranteed losses for any normal plat player. The mechanics he needed to use to win aren’t plat lvl. Idk how the opponents are ranked but it ain’t plat.
Pig is absolutely irreplaceable in the RTS Space. The only reason I can be even remotely competitive is because of him and his Instructional video. 🐷🐖🐽
After all ur videos im bronze 2 Thank you pig ...
Sounds like a personal issue