“This is all really great feedback! I can’t give this to them.” It’s not about games anymore. It’s about self affirming narcissists who think they’re better than you, pushing a message, with all the grace and tact of a sledge hammer with a vial of nitroglycerin taped to the front.
This also means that none of the people who worked on the game were allowed to voice any criticism. I wonder how many actually would've protested if they didn't have to fear repercussions. Maybe some of the people that got fired did speak out, and that's what got them canned.
It's essentially a cult, they're all dopamine addicts who need a cause to keep up their supply and this is the only socially acceptable way they've found to pronounce themselves holier than thou. I see them all the same as the Bible bashers from the 80s-90s
There have been signs that people don’t really understand the franchises as far back as Mass Effect Andromeda. There was a line early in the game when a guy, in a moment of anger, fires excessively at a dead enemy and someone else says that they need the ammo. In Mass Effect guns don’t work like we’re used to. Ammo is blocks of metal and the gun shaves off a piece the size of a grain of sand, and uses mass effect fields to fire it similar to the mass relays. Ammo is practically limitless and there isn’t a point in any of the games where a character is seen swapping out the ammo block. All you need to worry about is cooldown. In ME 1 you had to wait for the gun to cool down after you fired too much. In ME 2 that was replaced with reloadable canisters called thermal clips. After you fired too much you eject and replace the thermal clip, so it functioned like ammo in any other game. The explanation was that it was what the Geth used in ME 1 and allowed them to return fire faster, so all weapons were converted/replaced by ME 2. But in Andromeda you were actually collecting ammo from crates. It’s a small detail and trivial in the greater scope, but still. It also bugged me that the Salarians are supposed to talk and think fast but, aside from Mordin, they spoke normally if not very slowly, especially in the case of Director Tan. But that’s not exclusive to Andromeda.
I just think it's funny that while their ships are crashing and burning just a few feet from shore, they're spending their time screaming up at the passersby "incel! Chud! Toxic male!" Instead of saving themselves. And the people walking by just keep walking.
I think it's sad. Obviously the game isn't good, we can all see that, but I also see all the vitriol online about how the game will fail because it's woke, which is just completely worthless feedback. Just like the developers, gamers are also misunderstanding the franchise, because Dragon Age has in fact always been woke and it was always one of its selling points. But that can't be the basis for a game and it can't carry the game alone. The game is bad for other reasons, but the developers are just seeing hate directed at the wokeness. The audience is giving useless feedback and the developers are refusing to accept it. I think it's a sad state of affairs.
I feel Dragon Age as we knew it died with the changing of the guard, which has been symbolized by changing it from 'Dragon Age: Dreadwolf' to 'Dragon Age: Veilguard'. The people working on Bioware now, and the sycophant journalists around them, feel to me like they don't really care about Dragon Age at all, just modern politics. It doesn't come as a huge surprise that this is the case, and that maybe a handful of people played Inquisition and that's it. The people making these games don't have the same investment as those of us who have been around since Origins. I know for a fact I'm not getting this game anytime soon because they seem not to care about what came before, maybe if it's on sale I'll pick it up, but with the knowledge that the people who made it just don't give a damn anymore.
Even if it stayed as being called Dreadwolf, it wouldn't change a thing. The Dreadwolfs VA's most popular role is a sci-fi bisexual man who becomes a woman in spinoff books. The VAs of Vivienne and Merrill were also in this show, both also bisexual. Aired in 2007
Great insight! Thank you for pointing out what Gaider had said about whether he's going to play the game or not. Interesting he has the same complaints many of us have.
David Gaider thinks he's a more competent writer than he is. The guy can't even tell the difference between his wannabe anime character, Fenris, and a layered well written character like Astarion. I can't be expected to believe this man ever was responsible for solid character writing if he genuinely confuses the two characters outside of surface level origin similarities and white hair.
This game was going the flop the moment they released that abysmal borderlands like meet the team first trailer. That trailer single handedly decimated my interest in the game.
I always find it strange when people will dismiss certain critics opinions because they don't like the "chuds". Especially when these so called "chuds" have the same criticisms as the people degrading them. It's as though these people are unable or unwilling to acknowledge. Even someone you don't like can be right about something or share your opinion. Granted this could be the writer trying to pander to the current trends. I genuinely don't onow, even so I just hate that phenomena.
I watched her entire video, I’m not surprised, I pretty much guessed it was heading the way he says it does.it’s sad but Bioware died after Inquisition
Sounds like he's actually agreeing with a lot of the criticism. Of course, he can't put it that way. I do remember him calling the art style "interesting", in a way that highly suggested it was not a positive view, just after the first trailer dropped. He also didn't think everybody being into everybody was what he would've gone for either. Oh well... None of that changes anything. The game will flop. And that's that.
I love rpg for it's lore and game play but if the lore makes no sense then I lose or have interest in it. Having non binary and top surgery scars in dragon age is breaking it's lore. So goodbye dragon age.
I don't get why Gaider is bringing up Cassandra. The vast majority of straight guys liked her. I really liked her, even though I was kind of butting heads with her, in my head, as I was fiercely anti-andrastian. Hell, one of the major archetypes of women that are a smash hit with us straight men are tomboys. And what's more tomboyish than a warrior woman who's a competent soldier and commander? I don't think that one odd guy with bad taste whining about Cassandra is indicative of anything other than that particular person. It's certainly not indicative of what the "incels" think. Or that there's some kind of misogynistic sentiment in the fanbase. That's ridiculous to even suggest. No sane guy with turn their nose up at a woman who's athletic, supportive, genuine, honest, authentic, secretly a romantic and quite frankly beautiful. Even if she's also a hothead with misplaced beliefs. This rethoric about things being "male-coded" or "female-coded" or "masculine" or "feminine" is utterly silly. People are people and people differ from one another. The biological foundation is just that; a foundation. The individuals that are built upon that foundation are not slave-bound to preset personalities. These woke cultist morons don't even hear themselves when they spout all this nonsense, I reckon. Because they sound exactly like the kind of people and persuasions they claim to be against. The worst sexists, racists, fanatics, intolerant, discriminatory, exclusionary and hateful people I've ever met and known were all woke or feminist. And that's with some stiff competition. I used to hang around with all kinds of fringe elements and radicals back in the day. From skinheds to rastafari. And I've brawled with belligerent people from a lot of walks of life. Again, the woke and feminists were the most rabid ones and most likely to pick fights. Followed by the muslims. Then immigrants in general. Then the gangers. Then christians and only after those, the neo-nazis and skinheads.
Nah, sorry, I remember quite clearly on 4chan (incel capital of the internet) that Cassandra was mocked for looking like a man. It's only in hindsight that people think she looked fine. Fk, the whole "Inquisition is good, actually" narrative only came to be after Andromeda and Anthem.
nah the devs were getting harassed on both fronts for Cassandra. lesbians were mad she was straight and called it "queer erasure" and straight men were mad that she wasn't traditionally feminine enough and "looked like a man" because she of her jaw and short haircut. obviously vocal minorities but the heat did exist back in 2014
@@ZenJestr I'd say the key words there is "vocal minorities". Not saying that they weren't there, but I wouldn't call them representative of much of anything besides their own sad existences. Much less representative of men, gamers or even incels. Most straight men and homosexual women appreciated her. I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the case. and harping on about "queer erasure" makes no sense in agame with multiple bisexual and homosexual characters in it. If anything, it would be extremely strange and nonsensical if just about every character except maybe the bad guys were gay or queer. Or just having the concept of "queer" in the game at all. That's not how a thedosian or a person in mediaval Europe (which Thedas is based on) would think about the topic at all. The cultural concept of "queer" is an entirely modern, post-industrial idea. They'd have homosexual, bisexuals and dysphorics/dysmorphics but they wouldn't think them the way we do in the modern age Earth. Or even the way we did during our past. And failing to recognize this, and worse yet; failing to explore this alternative reality and culture as a creative, is a failure at being a creative. Why bother with modern-day politics when you can explore a whole different timeline and culture? It is utterly sad, petty, banal and trite, what the woke cult does to stifle creativity and exploration.
@@nebeskisrb7765 I mean, what are you gonna do? There's people who think pineapple belongs on pizza, too. You can't start rounding people up into camps over disagreements on taste and preference. Even if the notion is tempting at times. Even when those not favored by Darwin are obnoxiously loud about their idiocy.
It's just really bad that their creative process is so ideologically driven that they can't even attempt to take modern day talking points and reword them. I thought that was the bare minimum for writing.
Will the name on the box successfully hoodwink the average Joe? Or has the last decade of subverted expectations conditioned the consumer to look before they leap? That Veilguard Playtest interview and the videos discussing it may cause more damage than we think.
Dude's always been the king of gaslighting and rage baiting. I remember his BS about Anders and DA:2. He wouldn't know what to do with himself if he didn't have Twitter drama in his life. Bluesky isn't popular enough for his style of grandstanding. The man can write, but he's also a bit of a drama llama.
@@noctoi His writing isn't that great. Man is at best a midwit mid tier writer who probably has a lot of other people to thank for heavy lifting. His solo works are standard, if not somewhat embarrassing, young adult level.
I lost any respect for Gaider. I was a fan of Dragon Age for years, but being critical suddenly makes me a tourist or an incel? Fine, I'll take my money elsewhere.
Those comments about the art style unironically remind me of that bike theft comic with how much cope is in it. It's like he's saying, "Hopefully the new art style cheers up at least a few people out there more compared to how much it upsets me to lose the old one."
Something I realized about a lot of the people coving DA:V positively is many of them have a stake in the game, whether political, connected to the game in some way, or just connected to the team because of networking. Just as an example, I found there is a "Dragon Age Council" made up of a bunch of streamers/youtubers to give input on the game while it was in development and I assume have an NDA refusing to let them say anything bad about it.
David Gaider has always been a sort of loud mouthed hateful person. Since DAO really. I'm still going to play this game probably and I hope that it doesn't suck...but the hope is low at this point. Also about the leak report, we still have no clue that it is true. It might be, but I hope it isn't.
My gaming policy for the win. Almost any game that comes out ill wait for like a year before i buy. A year to see all the potential issues. There are exceptions a select few companies I might trust enough to make a good game. Like fromsoft I might by earlier.
The thing about "why is trans the same colors in every universe" reminds me of a portal fantasy I read where a minor portaled character tries to raise LGBT awareness in a city by dressing like some early pride activists did.....and nobody in the city bats an eye because they don't get the reference.
I think he agrees that none of the characters nor the character creator look appealing, he just doesn't want to agree with those he considers his enemies. That's is the type of environment we are in today. Even I'd someone has a point if they're perceived as the enemy their arguements are null and void
I have been waiting with baited breath for this video ever since i watched the original interview. Thank you ( I just got home, so I'm going to enjoy this with dinner and wine 😂)
After reading the Tevinter Nights anthology I'm actually quite curious about the story, it's more or less the same creative team behind it and I was pleasantly surprised, there are some really great stories. So I'm ready to give it a shot, just like a fan of the DA universe I'll buy it no matter what just to judge for myself.
I agree, there are some great stories in it. But I do fear they won't do them justice either. I mean, no spiders? What about The Horror of Hormak? Are they saying Ghilan'nain wouldn't play around with giant spiders for her little creations? That centipede monstrosity, or something like it, I'd have loved to see. I wonder if her monsters will be in the game. It's odd that we haven't seen any yet.
Some people keep shilling saying they are doing things to build good will? Hmm.. Adding none binary/pronoun bs that dont belong in a medieval fantasy game Character creation sliders downgraded cause male gaze bad Attacking fans on social media over their opinions Getting rid of the Keep and making all choices meaningless. Game is dead..
I share the same opinion with him on a lot with this game. I may not find the art style great, but I can adjust to it. I don't care about the character creator being "too woke" because it's an RPG. Both David and I share optimism on the story side of it. He only calls people those things because these people can't grow up and move on if they haven't liked the series since origins. These are the same people who hated DA2 and dai. The way I see it is, if the haters keep coming back to attack like they have been to the people who have played and genuinely enjoyed their experience and the devs too. I think it's time for the people who haven't enjoyed the series in the last 15 years to put their money where their mouth is and move on because they're obviously not taking the hint in their own mind that they're not going to like it. It can all go both ways too where each side needs to put their money where their mouth is. If the devs say they're going to make a game they think everyone can seem themselves in and find joy in, with making changes and risks to try to reach other audiences too, then they need to do that. But if someone is just in their head going, "this isn't for me", just put your money where your mouth is too. I don't really trust 1 source of a person saying "I didn't like it" when there are at least 100 others that did genuinely enjoy it. Whilst I don't think it's going to be a BG3 success, I also don't think it's going to flop and that's okay if the game is okay. I knew the trans, non binary stuff wasn't going to leave character creator because that would mean more lines, more resources they don't have, more time. TAASH was supposed to be nonbinary, but she's not. Her voice actress identifies that way but she plays a female qunari that can breathe fire. Now idk if it's set up that way because she's part of the qun and female qunari cannot fight according to Sten from DAO, or if she's just a part of the Lord's of fortune. Personally I don't really care. I really don't think the characters are ugly. I personally think they look decent enough, maybe we might get a patch fixing sizing, but decent enough for release. I have faith in Patrick Weeks because he wrote a few of the books which were amazing like the masked empire. I think we should give this a genuine chance and not just a glance and write off
The problem is you don't grow up and move on from a vision you have set out when you create your world. You need to have your concrete foundations and designs. Inquisition was a subplot of a side story of Dragon Age 2, which was itself a subplot of a small theme of Dragon Age Origins. How can I have any respect for the writing or story of a world that hasn't had it's identity since 2010? These are not competent writers, they consistently struggle to weave all the pieces they have set in motion together. In fact they struggle so much at this that they've made almost every prior decision irrelevant with their new game. What they really want to do is tell their OWN story, which they know will not sell unless it is unceremoniously grafted onto the name of something people actually loved and cared about, Dragon Age.
@@anonanon3112 Actually, the problem is that people genuinely didn't pay attention to the story. With veilguard, we are finally going to find out who created the blight, how it was created, what the archdemon's are, what happened to the evanuris that caused Solas to have to lock them away other than just the murder of Mythal, how the wardens started, and much more. The full story has always surrounded the blight and other aspects of it and now we get to get down to the root of it. There have been many books to follow the series and that the story has stuck to because a book can only tell a story that is reflected in the game and there are books that were set to come out before origins, but processing took longer than expected and so they came out a few months after origins. Those books in question are the stolen throne and the calling. Then it goes DAO, DA2 then asunder and the masked empire, DAI, and the last flight and tevinter nights and now veilguard. It all fits into pieces because in the masked empire which Patrick Weeks worked on, showed the start of the civil war in orlais and the activation of the eluvains. Solas was in that book, just in the very end after Felassan, another ancient elf that was also in Solas's network of spies, fell asleep and was killed in the fade. All the keys fit, you just have to do the work to turn them and unlock the locks. Saying we don't grow up and move on from our visions also just says more that you don't really understand the story or how it's lined up to be since the beginning
I have a theory why they butchered qunari the most - originally partially fundamentalist, middle eastern islam-inspired (Qun=Quran) super religious fanatic-like society built on norms where you are born with the role and are being raised by community instead of families. And we literally partake in one of the most memorable dialogues of female Grey warden in Origins with Sten of Beresaad is the one where he is confused by the fact that you, being a woman, chose the "male" role of a warrior, instead of being a feminine woman with a role of a mother and wife. He can't wrap his head around the fact that a female is a grey warden, warrior/mage/rogue, a fighter that is considered a stricktly male role it their society). That's why neither in Origins (where we have just Sten) nor in Exodus we see female qunari. They were not supposed to be part of invasion. In Inquisition however they already DRASTICALLY shifted from this concept by presenting Bull that was NOT a Tal-Vashoth at a time, but explains that Krem (trans man) is actually a normal thing, because even thought he was born in the "wrong" body, he is as good as any other male. That is forced agenda already at this point. Imagine Islamic fanatic accepting trans person? Imagined? Me neither. And even though personally I have nothing against Krem, it's a nice example of completely unnecessary however a fully developed character with a background and their part in the plot, Krem could be just a part of Inquisition as an agent, but they NEEDED to tie this narrative to Bull, the qunari, so that HE explains player how drastically qunari morals norms and standards were changed to fit modern agenda. But it wasn't enough, now the most "dangerous" from the woke perspective race and society is castrated and visually butchered to fit the view of a transgender director of the "Failguard". The morals of qunari are UNACCEPTABLE, this "toxic masculinity" of the entire race is just impossible for w0kes to develop and respect as part of original game world.
I don't know if you can conclude anything about the qunari from Bull's opinions. He's never really a fundamentalist even though he likes to think he is. His attitude is very live and let live, which is contradictory to the teachings. When it comes to Krem, Bull is still adhering to the gendered expectations where Krem can't be a warrior if he's a woman, but he can be if he's actually a man. It's basically a Mulan situation. In many cultures in history a man could become a woman socially by taking up a feminine caring role, which is similar to Krem's situation. The qunari aren't the same as real life muslims even if their culture intersects a lot. It's a fantasy race/religion in a fantasy world.
“This is all really great feedback! I can’t give this to them.” It’s not about games anymore. It’s about self affirming narcissists who think they’re better than you, pushing a message, with all the grace and tact of a sledge hammer with a vial of nitroglycerin taped to the front.
This also means that none of the people who worked on the game were allowed to voice any criticism. I wonder how many actually would've protested if they didn't have to fear repercussions. Maybe some of the people that got fired did speak out, and that's what got them canned.
It's essentially a cult, they're all dopamine addicts who need a cause to keep up their supply and this is the only socially acceptable way they've found to pronounce themselves holier than thou. I see them all the same as the Bible bashers from the 80s-90s
@@docmacabre All of the devs left are DEI hires, the ones with common sense are gone
There have been signs that people don’t really understand the franchises as far back as Mass Effect Andromeda. There was a line early in the game when a guy, in a moment of anger, fires excessively at a dead enemy and someone else says that they need the ammo. In Mass Effect guns don’t work like we’re used to. Ammo is blocks of metal and the gun shaves off a piece the size of a grain of sand, and uses mass effect fields to fire it similar to the mass relays. Ammo is practically limitless and there isn’t a point in any of the games where a character is seen swapping out the ammo block. All you need to worry about is cooldown. In ME 1 you had to wait for the gun to cool down after you fired too much. In ME 2 that was replaced with reloadable canisters called thermal clips. After you fired too much you eject and replace the thermal clip, so it functioned like ammo in any other game. The explanation was that it was what the Geth used in ME 1 and allowed them to return fire faster, so all weapons were converted/replaced by ME 2. But in Andromeda you were actually collecting ammo from crates. It’s a small detail and trivial in the greater scope, but still.
It also bugged me that the Salarians are supposed to talk and think fast but, aside from Mordin, they spoke normally if not very slowly, especially in the case of Director Tan. But that’s not exclusive to Andromeda.
I would argue it began with Inquisition, personally..
Abysmal Critic: "I might get a lil Angry."
Me: -Grabs Popcorn-
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LOL Gaider just "deadnamed" Weekes. But you know they won't go for him.
If the leaks are true EA got enough information from the leaker himself to identify him.
"Will you be playing the new Dragon Age?"
Normal people: "Yes/no"
Gaider: 3:59
I just think it's funny that while their ships are crashing and burning just a few feet from shore, they're spending their time screaming up at the passersby "incel! Chud! Toxic male!" Instead of saving themselves. And the people walking by just keep walking.
I think it's sad. Obviously the game isn't good, we can all see that, but I also see all the vitriol online about how the game will fail because it's woke, which is just completely worthless feedback. Just like the developers, gamers are also misunderstanding the franchise, because Dragon Age has in fact always been woke and it was always one of its selling points. But that can't be the basis for a game and it can't carry the game alone. The game is bad for other reasons, but the developers are just seeing hate directed at the wokeness. The audience is giving useless feedback and the developers are refusing to accept it. I think it's a sad state of affairs.
I feel Dragon Age as we knew it died with the changing of the guard, which has been symbolized by changing it from 'Dragon Age: Dreadwolf' to 'Dragon Age: Veilguard'.
The people working on Bioware now, and the sycophant journalists around them, feel to me like they don't really care about Dragon Age at all, just modern politics. It doesn't come as a huge surprise that this is the case, and that maybe a handful of people played Inquisition and that's it.
The people making these games don't have the same investment as those of us who have been around since Origins. I know for a fact I'm not getting this game anytime soon because they seem not to care about what came before, maybe if it's on sale I'll pick it up, but with the knowledge that the people who made it just don't give a damn anymore.
Even if it stayed as being called Dreadwolf, it wouldn't change a thing.
The Dreadwolfs VA's most popular role is a sci-fi bisexual man who becomes a woman in spinoff books.
The VAs of Vivienne and Merrill were also in this show, both also bisexual.
Aired in 2007
I ended up on this video randomly, and I have to tell you, I didn't think a star spawn could be this cute😊
Great insight! Thank you for pointing out what Gaider had said about whether he's going to play the game or not. Interesting he has the same complaints many of us have.
Chuds and cels just keep winning
Over for Dragon Agecels
David Gaider thinks he's a more competent writer than he is.
The guy can't even tell the difference between his wannabe anime character, Fenris, and a layered well written character like Astarion.
I can't be expected to believe this man ever was responsible for solid character writing if he genuinely confuses the two characters outside of surface level origin similarities and white hair.
"The world is ending and we need to unify to defeat The Big Bad! Btw my pronouns are she/they, please don't misgender me or I'll cry"
This game was going the flop the moment they released that abysmal borderlands like meet the team first trailer. That trailer single handedly decimated my interest in the game.
I always find it strange when people will dismiss certain critics opinions because they don't like the "chuds". Especially when these so called "chuds" have the same criticisms as the people degrading them.
It's as though these people are unable or unwilling to acknowledge. Even someone you don't like can be right about something or share your opinion.
Granted this could be the writer trying to pander to the current trends. I genuinely don't onow, even so I just hate that phenomena.
Because it is not about the Game but what it stands for.
I watched her entire video, I’m not surprised, I pretty much guessed it was heading the way he says it does.it’s sad but Bioware died after Inquisition
I think it died in the making of Anthem
Bioware as a company died in the last ten minutes of Mass Effect 3. Dragon Age has been dying ever since DA 2. The corpse has been rotting ever since.
Sounds like he's actually agreeing with a lot of the criticism. Of course, he can't put it that way.
I do remember him calling the art style "interesting", in a way that highly suggested it was not a positive view, just after the first trailer dropped. He also didn't think everybody being into everybody was what he would've gone for either. Oh well... None of that changes anything. The game will flop. And that's that.
I love rpg for it's lore and game play but if the lore makes no sense then I lose or have interest in it. Having non binary and top surgery scars in dragon age is breaking it's lore. So goodbye dragon age.
I don't get why Gaider is bringing up Cassandra. The vast majority of straight guys liked her.
I really liked her, even though I was kind of butting heads with her, in my head, as I was fiercely anti-andrastian.
Hell, one of the major archetypes of women that are a smash hit with us straight men are tomboys.
And what's more tomboyish than a warrior woman who's a competent soldier and commander?
I don't think that one odd guy with bad taste whining about Cassandra is indicative of anything other than that particular person.
It's certainly not indicative of what the "incels" think. Or that there's some kind of misogynistic sentiment in the fanbase.
That's ridiculous to even suggest.
No sane guy with turn their nose up at a woman who's athletic, supportive, genuine, honest, authentic, secretly a romantic and quite frankly beautiful.
Even if she's also a hothead with misplaced beliefs.
This rethoric about things being "male-coded" or "female-coded" or "masculine" or "feminine" is utterly silly.
People are people and people differ from one another. The biological foundation is just that; a foundation.
The individuals that are built upon that foundation are not slave-bound to preset personalities.
These woke cultist morons don't even hear themselves when they spout all this nonsense, I reckon.
Because they sound exactly like the kind of people and persuasions they claim to be against.
The worst sexists, racists, fanatics, intolerant, discriminatory, exclusionary and hateful people I've ever met and known were all woke or feminist.
And that's with some stiff competition. I used to hang around with all kinds of fringe elements and radicals back in the day. From skinheds to rastafari.
And I've brawled with belligerent people from a lot of walks of life.
Again, the woke and feminists were the most rabid ones and most likely to pick fights.
Followed by the muslims. Then immigrants in general. Then the gangers. Then christians and only after those, the neo-nazis and skinheads.
Nah, sorry, I remember quite clearly on 4chan (incel capital of the internet) that Cassandra was mocked for looking like a man.
It's only in hindsight that people think she looked fine.
Fk, the whole "Inquisition is good, actually" narrative only came to be after Andromeda and Anthem.
It's what they do. They pick the most extreme examples to avoid valid criticism.
nah the devs were getting harassed on both fronts for Cassandra. lesbians were mad she was straight and called it "queer erasure" and straight men were mad that she wasn't traditionally feminine enough and "looked like a man" because she of her jaw and short haircut. obviously vocal minorities but the heat did exist back in 2014
@@ZenJestr I'd say the key words there is "vocal minorities".
Not saying that they weren't there, but I wouldn't call them representative of much of anything besides their own sad existences.
Much less representative of men, gamers or even incels.
Most straight men and homosexual women appreciated her. I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the case.
and harping on about "queer erasure" makes no sense in agame with multiple bisexual and homosexual characters in it.
If anything, it would be extremely strange and nonsensical if just about every character except maybe the bad guys were gay or queer.
Or just having the concept of "queer" in the game at all.
That's not how a thedosian or a person in mediaval Europe (which Thedas is based on) would think about the topic at all.
The cultural concept of "queer" is an entirely modern, post-industrial idea.
They'd have homosexual, bisexuals and dysphorics/dysmorphics but they wouldn't think them the way we do in the modern age Earth.
Or even the way we did during our past.
And failing to recognize this, and worse yet; failing to explore this alternative reality and culture as a creative, is a failure at being a creative.
Why bother with modern-day politics when you can explore a whole different timeline and culture?
It is utterly sad, petty, banal and trite, what the woke cult does to stifle creativity and exploration.
@@nebeskisrb7765 I mean, what are you gonna do? There's people who think pineapple belongs on pizza, too.
You can't start rounding people up into camps over disagreements on taste and preference.
Even if the notion is tempting at times.
Even when those not favored by Darwin are obnoxiously loud about their idiocy.
It's just really bad that their creative process is so ideologically driven that they can't even attempt to take modern day talking points and reword them. I thought that was the bare minimum for writing.
Will the name on the box successfully hoodwink the average Joe? Or has the last decade of subverted expectations conditioned the consumer to look before they leap?
That Veilguard Playtest interview and the videos discussing it may cause more damage than we think.
"In process of shutting down Twitter account" Suuuuure. He did that before saying he is done with Twitter. Then he came back...
Dude's always been the king of gaslighting and rage baiting. I remember his BS about Anders and DA:2. He wouldn't know what to do with himself if he didn't have Twitter drama in his life. Bluesky isn't popular enough for his style of grandstanding. The man can write, but he's also a bit of a drama llama.
@@noctoi His writing isn't that great. Man is at best a midwit mid tier writer who probably has a lot of other people to thank for heavy lifting.
His solo works are standard, if not somewhat embarrassing, young adult level.
I lost any respect for Gaider. I was a fan of Dragon Age for years, but being critical suddenly makes me a tourist or an incel? Fine, I'll take my money elsewhere.
Those comments about the art style unironically remind me of that bike theft comic with how much cope is in it. It's like he's saying, "Hopefully the new art style cheers up at least a few people out there more compared to how much it upsets me to lose the old one."
Let's switch veilguard to book of erotic fantasies since that's what they were going for.
Something I realized about a lot of the people coving DA:V positively is many of them have a stake in the game, whether political, connected to the game in some way, or just connected to the team because of networking.
Just as an example, I found there is a "Dragon Age Council" made up of a bunch of streamers/youtubers to give input on the game while it was in development and I assume have an NDA refusing to let them say anything bad about it.
David Gaider has always been a sort of loud mouthed hateful person. Since DAO really.
I'm still going to play this game probably and I hope that it doesn't suck...but the hope is low at this point.
Also about the leak report, we still have no clue that it is true. It might be, but I hope it isn't.
My gaming policy for the win. Almost any game that comes out ill wait for like a year before i buy. A year to see all the potential issues.
There are exceptions a select few companies I might trust enough to make a good game.
Like fromsoft I might by earlier.
The thing about "why is trans the same colors in every universe" reminds me of a portal fantasy I read where a minor portaled character tries to raise LGBT awareness in a city by dressing like some early pride activists did.....and nobody in the city bats an eye because they don't get the reference.
I think he agrees that none of the characters nor the character creator look appealing, he just doesn't want to agree with those he considers his enemies. That's is the type of environment we are in today. Even I'd someone has a point if they're perceived as the enemy their arguements are null and void
Seems like the intro text was too zoomed in this time. It's cropped wrongly.
Crap. I forgot to re-align it. The bit that got streamed caused some problems in editing. Thanks for letting me know!
I have been waiting with baited breath for this video ever since i watched the original interview. Thank you ( I just got home, so I'm going to enjoy this with dinner and wine 😂)
Oopsiees haha
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I see TENTACLES! I poke.
Subtly is a foreign concept to this ideology.
But when i pointed out the same things in forums, i get hit with "but they have consultants" yeah....
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After reading the Tevinter Nights anthology I'm actually quite curious about the story, it's more or less the same creative team behind it and I was pleasantly surprised, there are some really great stories. So I'm ready to give it a shot, just like a fan of the DA universe I'll buy it no matter what just to judge for myself.
I agree, there are some great stories in it. But I do fear they won't do them justice either. I mean, no spiders? What about The Horror of Hormak? Are they saying Ghilan'nain wouldn't play around with giant spiders for her little creations? That centipede monstrosity, or something like it, I'd have loved to see. I wonder if her monsters will be in the game. It's odd that we haven't seen any yet.
well another game who will crash and burn
Some people keep shilling saying they are doing things to build good will? Hmm..
Adding none binary/pronoun bs that dont belong in a medieval fantasy game
Character creation sliders downgraded cause male gaze bad
Attacking fans on social media over their opinions
Getting rid of the Keep and making all choices meaningless.
Game is dead..
David GayDerp is just another wokie who wants woke politics in games while also not playing those games. Nothing new here.
I share the same opinion with him on a lot with this game. I may not find the art style great, but I can adjust to it. I don't care about the character creator being "too woke" because it's an RPG. Both David and I share optimism on the story side of it.
He only calls people those things because these people can't grow up and move on if they haven't liked the series since origins. These are the same people who hated DA2 and dai. The way I see it is, if the haters keep coming back to attack like they have been to the people who have played and genuinely enjoyed their experience and the devs too. I think it's time for the people who haven't enjoyed the series in the last 15 years to put their money where their mouth is and move on because they're obviously not taking the hint in their own mind that they're not going to like it. It can all go both ways too where each side needs to put their money where their mouth is. If the devs say they're going to make a game they think everyone can seem themselves in and find joy in, with making changes and risks to try to reach other audiences too, then they need to do that. But if someone is just in their head going, "this isn't for me", just put your money where your mouth is too.
I don't really trust 1 source of a person saying "I didn't like it" when there are at least 100 others that did genuinely enjoy it. Whilst I don't think it's going to be a BG3 success, I also don't think it's going to flop and that's okay if the game is okay.
I knew the trans, non binary stuff wasn't going to leave character creator because that would mean more lines, more resources they don't have, more time. TAASH was supposed to be nonbinary, but she's not. Her voice actress identifies that way but she plays a female qunari that can breathe fire. Now idk if it's set up that way because she's part of the qun and female qunari cannot fight according to Sten from DAO, or if she's just a part of the Lord's of fortune. Personally I don't really care.
I really don't think the characters are ugly. I personally think they look decent enough, maybe we might get a patch fixing sizing, but decent enough for release.
I have faith in Patrick Weeks because he wrote a few of the books which were amazing like the masked empire. I think we should give this a genuine chance and not just a glance and write off
The problem is you don't grow up and move on from a vision you have set out when you create your world. You need to have your concrete foundations and designs.
Inquisition was a subplot of a side story of Dragon Age 2, which was itself a subplot of a small theme of Dragon Age Origins.
How can I have any respect for the writing or story of a world that hasn't had it's identity since 2010?
These are not competent writers, they consistently struggle to weave all the pieces they have set in motion together.
In fact they struggle so much at this that they've made almost every prior decision irrelevant with their new game.
What they really want to do is tell their OWN story, which they know will not sell unless it is unceremoniously grafted onto the name of something people actually loved and cared about,
Dragon Age.
@@anonanon3112 Actually, the problem is that people genuinely didn't pay attention to the story. With veilguard, we are finally going to find out who created the blight, how it was created, what the archdemon's are, what happened to the evanuris that caused Solas to have to lock them away other than just the murder of Mythal, how the wardens started, and much more. The full story has always surrounded the blight and other aspects of it and now we get to get down to the root of it.
There have been many books to follow the series and that the story has stuck to because a book can only tell a story that is reflected in the game and there are books that were set to come out before origins, but processing took longer than expected and so they came out a few months after origins. Those books in question are the stolen throne and the calling. Then it goes DAO, DA2 then asunder and the masked empire, DAI, and the last flight and tevinter nights and now veilguard. It all fits into pieces because in the masked empire which Patrick Weeks worked on, showed the start of the civil war in orlais and the activation of the eluvains. Solas was in that book, just in the very end after Felassan, another ancient elf that was also in Solas's network of spies, fell asleep and was killed in the fade.
All the keys fit, you just have to do the work to turn them and unlock the locks. Saying we don't grow up and move on from our visions also just says more that you don't really understand the story or how it's lined up to be since the beginning
I have a theory why they butchered qunari the most - originally partially fundamentalist, middle eastern islam-inspired (Qun=Quran) super religious fanatic-like society built on norms where you are born with the role and are being raised by community instead of families. And we literally partake in one of the most memorable dialogues of female Grey warden in Origins with Sten of Beresaad is the one where he is confused by the fact that you, being a woman, chose the "male" role of a warrior, instead of being a feminine woman with a role of a mother and wife. He can't wrap his head around the fact that a female is a grey warden, warrior/mage/rogue, a fighter that is considered a stricktly male role it their society). That's why neither in Origins (where we have just Sten) nor in Exodus we see female qunari. They were not supposed to be part of invasion. In Inquisition however they already DRASTICALLY shifted from this concept by presenting Bull that was NOT a Tal-Vashoth at a time, but explains that Krem (trans man) is actually a normal thing, because even thought he was born in the "wrong" body, he is as good as any other male. That is forced agenda already at this point. Imagine Islamic fanatic accepting trans person? Imagined? Me neither. And even though personally I have nothing against Krem, it's a nice example of completely unnecessary however a fully developed character with a background and their part in the plot, Krem could be just a part of Inquisition as an agent, but they NEEDED to tie this narrative to Bull, the qunari, so that HE explains player how drastically qunari morals norms and standards were changed to fit modern agenda. But it wasn't enough, now the most "dangerous" from the woke perspective race and society is castrated and visually butchered to fit the view of a transgender director of the "Failguard". The morals of qunari are UNACCEPTABLE, this "toxic masculinity" of the entire race is just impossible for w0kes to develop and respect as part of original game world.
I don't know if you can conclude anything about the qunari from Bull's opinions. He's never really a fundamentalist even though he likes to think he is. His attitude is very live and let live, which is contradictory to the teachings. When it comes to Krem, Bull is still adhering to the gendered expectations where Krem can't be a warrior if he's a woman, but he can be if he's actually a man. It's basically a Mulan situation. In many cultures in history a man could become a woman socially by taking up a feminine caring role, which is similar to Krem's situation. The qunari aren't the same as real life muslims even if their culture intersects a lot. It's a fantasy race/religion in a fantasy world.