Can we take a moment collectively to accept that this generation of gaming journalists are liars and grifters and ignore every word they are saying until their industry gets back on track
Absolutely it will. I did a video on Hogwarts legacy and it being omitted from nominations, turns out a large chunk of the jurors didn't play or cover the game and iirc about 2 or 3 of the us based jurors don't even cover video games to any capacity. It's a joke.
Absolutely. There's one that even said that it's the best rpg from Bioware. It's disgusting to even compare it to BG2, Kotor, Mass Effect and DA Origins
The crazy thing about Taash is, DA has literally already done this - Krem from DAI was a trans man and was a better written character (as a side character!) than Taash. Wtf.
@@mhw4658 people are quick to think you are transphobic or homophobic if you criticize the bad writing in DATV, but the vast majority weren't up in arms about Dorian or Krem. They were both very likable and well-written and their genders/sexualities were just pieces of them, not their entire personalities. It's sad that DATV couldn't uphold that level of writing.
What is unusual is that the writer for Krem is also the writer for Taash (from what I gathered). It makes me wonder if EA had a hand in overruling the devs on this matter.
@@GangerworldPlays yeah it was in a conversation with Bull about his little merry band of mercs. Bull brings it up when he introduced Crem, who is his second in command. I liked Crem too he had funny stories of what they were up to before they were contracted to the Inquisition, and the bit when you meet Iron bull. " Um yeah... can't seal the casks...we broke them open....WITH AXES!😂"
@@robinthrush9672 Yeah... T(r)ash : "No I don't wanna be called the same meaning in an already existing word, I want you to use a word from another world's online culture!" Her Ma : "What's that supposed to mean?" T(r)ash : *_Throws even more of a tantrum_*
As a Hispanic male, i feel the same about representation, not that its bad, but when that becomes the focus it kinda ignores the individuality of the characters. I was so excited to get to know the characters and even romance one of them, but after 30 hours, i stopped caring about most of them.
Ayyy bienvenido!! The characters here were such a let down. And when I was editing this video I had to record that clip of Mordin Solus and that was painful to watch because, it's crazy how ME2 is soold and has way better characters and writing.
@PlayerVersusGame Brooo, for real, I have played all the games recently, and I played ME3 while waiting for this game. Although not the best of the ME series, obviously that is 2, but the writing and character depth is on another level compared to this game.
Im actually scream when darvin invite me to "train" the griffon again right after we just did that few sec. Ago. Dudee are we fighting gods or is this picnic simulator
Thank You for bringing up ME2. I remember someone on Twitter/X saying DA:Veilguard was as good as ME2 and my response to them was "I doubt that", which for some reason pissed them off. ME2 is a modern classic, very little will live up to its legacy. ME3 and especially Andromeda still stand in that game's shadow. Speaking of ME2, every time I see Taash, I get the impression that whoever wrote the character liked Jack and tried to recreate her in this game, but didn't understand why Jack works as a character.
I NEVER wanna hear someone fix their lips tp utter that shit. To this day, I will have all Normandy upgrades and full party loyalty but that final mission still feels stressful. A victory we truly fought for and earned. Meanwhile DATV only causes me stress because they went scorched earth to everything that came before this rotting disaster.
It's almost like they forgot the two most important aspects of Jack. That her trauma was what was making her act like a self destructive child and that she was ultimately wrong for doing so. Jack had a lot of room to grow and heal but Taash is just a selfish idiot who the player is forced to coddle. In Mass Effect you are encouraged to play nice with Jack because she's a potentially lethal time bomb. In Dragon Age you are forced to play nice with Taash because the game won't allow anything else.
The fact that it is a Bioware game means nothing. The label "Bioware" is just attached to a varying group of devs. The current Bioware has little to do with what Mass Effect 2 Bioware was. The current Bioware is not the Bioware we got those excellent games from in the past.
People need to remind themselves who owns Bioware. If EA buys out a software house, you need to just accept that anything that dev once stood for is over now
Combat system in this game is so limited i like playing Mage Class but in this game your so restricted is not even worth playing the mage class Dragon Age origins was and still is the best game for me i still have it and i started playing it again and belive me is way better than Veilguard if you want to make Dragon Age Origins even better get some mods and enjoy
fun fact a lot of the people that made old Bioware games have left the studio. 2010 Bioware and 2024 bioware are basically two different studios with two different levels of skill and abilities.
@PlayerVersusGame there is an indie studio that was created by old Bioware devs. I don't remember the name offhand. I think the game they are making is called exdius or something like that. So not all hope is gone.
a woman choosing to oppose her traditional roles to hunt dragons while otherwise upholding her faith would have been far more compelling than 'i'm nonbinary and you have to respect that'
Okay... I am sorry but Veilguards combat is even simpler that Elden Rings. WAY simpler. You dont need to care about parrying or enemy moves almost at all because its so extremely easy to dodge them. And you only get 3 abilities in Veilguard while in Elden Ring you get up to 10 spell slots + weapon arts of up to 4 equiped weapons? Yeah no... Thats incomparable. And as far as Boss fights are concerned. I would say that Elden Ring is above average there is no doubt about it. But there are many games where "bosses" or large monsters are great (Monster Hunter for example). Meanwhile in Veilguard they are pretty much Pinatas. As far as enviroment and graphics are concerned. Its okay. Why just okay? Because pretty much every AAA game published in this "generation" can boast the same or better. So its somewhat to be expected. So yeah thats for the things you listed as "good". As far as my experience goes. They really arent. Thats not to say they are bad. But they are at best "okay-ish". And that simply doesnt cut it for 10 years waiting time for sequel from big studio with more than enough funding.
Fair enough. You do make ab excellent point, what Veilguard got right according to me are things that games (especially AAA in production) should get right, it's like the price of admission so to say. Bosses being piñatas, yes can't argue there.
@@martinbudinsky8912 Yeah, a game like Stellar Blade with much less budget can have beautiful environments. Veilguard needs more then looking pretty to justify it's existence.
I mean i think you're vastly overestimating Bioware as a company right now and the funding they received. Anthem was already a flop by the time production for veilguard was underway (a previous iteration was scrapped previously and there were no immediate plans to continue for a few years). This wasn't a game with 10 years of development and it was developed at a time when EA had very little faith in bioware. I see people on forums throwing around "$300 million budget", which is laughable. GTA5 is the highest budget development thus far in gaming history at $265 million. It's, i'm sorry to say, very stupid to estimate a budget that exceeds or even comes close to that. Inquisition was considered a bit of a money pit for bioware with a budget for development and marketing combined reaching $125 million. For reference, witcher 3 was $30 million for development and marketing combined. I see no plausible universe where Veilguard had any sort of unlimited budget. No idea why people's expectations were so high when bioware is not the Triple A giant people seem to think it is.
@@BBS-dl1lt "Anthem was already a flop by the time production for veilguard was underway (a previous iteration was scrapped previously and there were no immediate plans to continue for a few years)." - The previous version wasnt scrapped. It was rewritten multiple times. And it was in development the whole 10 years. Only more and less intensive but still was (this is info from Bioware itself you can look up). "I see people on forums throwing around "$300 million budget", which is laughable. GTA5 is the highest budget development thus far in gaming history at $265 million. It's, i'm sorry to say, very stupid to estimate a budget that exceeds or even comes close to that." - I never said their budget was 265 million $ . HOWEVER! Its known that budget for the previous DA Inquisition was around150 million $. So you can reasonably expect the budget for Veilguard to be at least that (and more when you account for inflation since then) if you account for the long development period. Which is no small budget by any means! (Also CD RED was nowhere near as reputable or big before Withcer 3 and its also based in Poland where prices are much lower and it was long time ago so theres a lot of inflation since then.... You have to account for ALL of that.) "No idea why people's expectations were so high when bioware is not the Triple A giant people seem to think it is." - Well you gotta realize that said funding of Bioware doesnt come from Bioware itself but EA. And thats still alive and kicking with a lot of money coming from stuff like APEX, FIFA and so on. So its not like they dont have money to throw at a project. And if you try to go by the logic "why would they throw money at project people clearly do not want". Dont. Just dont. And look at whats happening with AC Shadows right now and how much Ubisoft sank into it already...
Hey Guys/ Gals! We've got Inclusiveness-Bingo over here! Check 5 inclusiveness boxes in a row and win the right to not feel morally superior but also berate others! Its inclusiveness ppl!
@@PlayerVersusGame Taash, Taash, Taash... A mentally challenged game devs forcible inserted personal alter ego "Mary Sue" -character telling ppl to commit corporal punishment onto themselfs IrL for/if ever having a slip of the tongue or not being "inclusive" enough? That one should easily count as three boxes! Now if I only could have ONE person representing the need for games having good stories and dialouges first and foremost, instead of having an inclusive cast of evetyone and then some just for diversitys sake instead of THAT, I could win that extra inclusiveness-badge to put onto my car. Proudly telling everyone i've friends of all sorts, and on all spectrums, and that I've social coult to tell everyone I'm moraly morally superior to everyone else.
I saw a video saying that in veilguard it's said that Southern thedas has been destroyed. Is that true? Then that means there was no point to dragon age origins and inquisition
May as well be (idk honestly), dragon age keep or whatever is called wasn't used so all the decisions that would've been kept there from our playthrough of the previous games are gone. It got boiled down to 4 questions. Witcher 3 had an entire interrogation cutscene to simulate the choices from witcher 2 for those who didn't play part 2. Crazy that this series couldn't give its own games the same courtesy.
They basically did what Disney did to Star Wars since they didn't want to deal with all the novels and games. Nobody liked it there, and no lessons appear to have been learned.
Yes. They basically also told you about the destruction of Ferelden, Orlais, Free Marches by a simple letter from the Inquisitor. No cinematic. No dramatic last stand by the heroes you got to know from there. Just "yeah sout thedas is destroyed get over it."
The best thing about Mass Effect (1, 2 and 3) is that the most interesting characters are from the alien races. Mordin, Liara, T'Ali, Wrex, Thane, Grunt...they are all so well written and flushed out it's criminal how poorly Bioware conveys their characters now. It's as shallow as a bathtub, where we used to have oceans of lore and context about why a character reacts to a situation. Such an unfortunate demise.
Your point about the Metaphor comparison is spot on. Playing that game makes you want to know more about these people because they're part of this world and they all have their own reasons to want to see this quest through beyond "the bad guys are bad". Veilguard reads like a teenage fanfiction where everyone is obsessed with inane quirks, the party has to repeatedly give speeches to each other about how great of a team they are, and no icky moral complexities can exist because the writer doesn't want to tarnish their precious characters by ever implying that they could do something bad. What happened? I know they lost the most important creatives over the years, but this game is written like nothing but complete amateurs were at the helm.
Just finished Origins for the first time and one of my favorite aspects of the companions is that most of your party dislike or straight up hate each other and are constantly throwing jabs between themselves for most of the game😂 Morrigan will find almost any excuse to bash someone. Sten is a fucking brick and looks at everyone with scorn at first. Zevran's a smug lil prick with Alistair's smary ass not being much better. Oghren is just well plastered 99% of the time and cant function. I think the only two party members that genuinely get along from the jump are Leliana and Wynne, the most generally good people in your group. I enjoy the lack of cohesion this group has and banter you overhear them have as you travel around Fereldan.
As a trans girl, I was really let down by how this game handled the trans and non-binary characters. I think it's fine to have a character's gender identity play a part in their backstory or storyline (like maybe you can have a character who is running away from home because they have transphobic parents), but it should never be the entire point of the character. I think the worst part of the trans portrayal in this game was when another character accidentally misgenders Taash, and does ten push ups as an apology...to any non-trans people reading this, I promise you that the best thing you can do if you accidentally misgender someone is to casually apologize and just move on. Making a big scene of it is only going to make the trans person feel even more uncomfortable, and it's so strange to me that whoever wrote this scene thought this would be appealing to trans and non-binary players. Honestly, having a character punish themselves for accidentally misgendering someone, and having the game portray this as the right thing to do, is honestly really harmful because it gives transphobes more leverage to push the stereotype of the bossy and oversensitive trans person that gets used in transphobic rhetoric. Honestly, given the hostility trans people have to put up with in the world, putting this in a mainstream game is honestly kinda irresponsible, because it's only gonna make people more prejudiced.
Well said, and we had an arguably better depiction in Inquistion with Krem, who was trans, but also had good character development and personality. When we get to know a well rounded character, we care about them much more than if all we got was one characterist or group they belong to.
@@CultOfMonika Damn Monica, first killing all your friends and now this? Okay but seriously though, I know you probably felt cool writing this but you should probably get an actual hobby
To some extent the monologue had some interesting ideas into it like the part where people that make the mistake make it about themselves and not mean it in their way of apologizing but it really was poorly handled. If the way you make your point takes the player completely out of the game's universe your writing is bad. And I'm not concerned so that's just my two cents but I think you're right about making a scene out of it. Is it not another way to make it about yourself, walk away as the good guy and make the people you misgender feel bad? I feel like it might be better to apologize and take time later with the person to really apologize more deeply perhaps, maybe learn from him/her instead of doing that in public. And give him/her the choice to have that conversation or not
I think what you're tiptoeing about when talking about Taash is that their conflict is plainly stupid when compared to the conflicts that, for example, mass effect 2 had. Now I don't intend to attack trans people by saying this, your struggle is NOT stupid, but Taash's just is. No two ways about it. Taash is a teenager character with teenager problems, whereas mass effect 2 characters were adults with adult problems, and some really intense problems at that. The conflict between Taash and her mom, who actually takes care of her and loves her (thereby the not-so-heavy issues in her life), is just so boring and small compared to, say, Jacob in ME2 finding out his hero dad was actually Kurtz from Heart of Darkness... This is just off the top of my head, but maybe if their mother disliked them so much that she sold them to the Antaam for their fire breathing ability, or something like that, now that's much darker and dramatic, and would be more in keeping with that ME2 brought to the table, without sacrificing representation. Perhaps in the end their mother would see that they were valuable after all, even if they're not like other Qunari, or something of the sort, and get that emotional release
It was going to be judged compared to origins the second they called it dragon age. If they called it "something something" they wouldn't have upset fans but they wanted to capitalize on it because they knew a random unknown title would have no sales especially since it's political. They failed either way.
It's definitely a dragon age game lol...literally in the dragon age universe with all the dragon age characters.. It may not be a great dragon age game but it's absolutely dragon age
@@mattscheib6801 there are common threads that have gone through all of them except Veilguard. Such as a darker tone, there being racism towards elves, and tension between the mages and templars
I think you hit the nail on the head there - I stopped playing the game mid fight at Weisshaubt though, because I realized that up until then it had been nothing but brainless sameness and I understood that I couldn't expect anything more. I really wasn't looking forward to more of the same, hour after hour, so I gave up. I am impressed that you actually finished it, to be honest!
Thanks. I think I kept hoping to see it be better but na. Knowing I was gonna do this video I also felt I had to finish it so I could have the full picture
@@PlayerVersusGame That was my plan all along too; I livestreamed it blind until mid-fight Weisshaubt to give my friends and followers the opportunity to choose for themselves before they bought the game. I got careless in the boss fight, because of how repetitive it was, then I died and realized that I didn't want to return to that. I just couldn't. Not even for the sake of the story. As I said - I am really impressed, and your review is great too. I like that you keep trying to remain as neutral as you possibly can all through the end of your video. My review is not as balanced, because I was pissed off 😆
@@splashopain thanks a lot I appreciate that. If you saw my first impressions video I had very good things to say about it and took a poor angle with regard to grifters. Which i got a lot of shit for, rightfully so to a degree. Once I got to Taash, it became super evident. I started this channel to join the conversation not pulling for one side of the or the other. Just calling it how I see it. So thanks, I appreciate the feedback and conversation. Now back to metaphor
16:06 Yeah pretty lost on Bioware these days. Why being Gay triumphs all other aspects of a character's personality makes no sense to me. And I extend that to player's to. I've never felt discriminated against or excluded playing games where there were no Latinos. Baldur's Gate 2 (also developed by Bioware) remains my all time favorite RPG, and there is very little what we would call "modern" cultural elements. I just don't care. BG2 is a fantastic game, with good characters, solid plot, and entertaining gameplay.
Hola fellow latino where you from? Also man I NEVER played the original BG games. My first intro to BG was Dark Alliance on PS2. That led to Champions of Norrath and so on. Anyway, Yea, I just need my games to be fun to play, and have great stories with equally great characters. Simple.
@@PlayerVersusGame You should definitely check them out, the enhanced editions are on steam and PC is the platform i would recommend playing them on as Bioware created the engine originally for RTS titles before changing to RPGs so it just works better with mouse and keyboard. They don't play like Dark Alliance though so don't expect that, they are party based RPGs with a lot exploration, dialogue choices, very narrative heavy, etc. You play the same protagonist in both games and can import your save from 1 to 2. 1 is a great game and 2 for me is one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
Taash is very obviously a mentally ill writer's self-insert and a vehicle to trauma dump to the players because they had such a rough childhood. She is supposed to be 30 years old by the way, but she acts like a 13 year old who is childish for their age. Throwing tantrums like a toddler, misunderstanding on purpose, demands respect and acceptance from everyone for her identity but refuses to give any to others. For example, she absolutely refuses to call Emmrich what he wants to be called and instead has to call him other names that he finds hurtful. The lack of self-awareness is absolutely insane. Just a terrible narcissistic self-centered character with terrible dialogue and terrible writing. I couldn't stomach continuing the game after Taash's mom told the Dragon King that Taash is stronger than him because she has come to terms with her own identity. That made me physically cringe so bad I had no option but to turn the game off and uninstall immediately. I just couldn't take it anymore. And about dialogue, you probably noticed but most dialogue in the game is designed to make sure that the player is on the same page as the game. The companions are literally just telling you what youre supposed to think. It's insanely immersion breaking and frankly it feels like the game thinks you're stupid. It's treating you like you're a child. Speech options don't say what they tell you they're going to say, and you're never allowed to criticize anyone or call them out on their bad behaviour. You're only allowed to be supportive and treat Taash with silk gloves like she is a baby. Extremely infuriating. I think you were very polite to them in this review, I'm not gonna lie xdd
It's a hard thing for me to do (be unfiltered) because my professional career revolves around being professional, courteous, even when giving tough feedback. Sometimes I don't remember how to turn that switch off
@@PlayerVersusGame I completely understand that I just feel like when you're on UA-cam on your own channel, you're allowed to speak your mind, and people usually respect just being honest and saying what you think. It's impossible not to offend anyone. You can be perfectly respectful, only criticize the gameplay elements and not even mention the identity politics and be the absolute pinnacle of professionalism, and just because you didn't like the game, the woke cultists on reddit and games media will still flag you as a far-right transphobic chud. Because that's just how they operate. Anyone who disagrees with them is automatically a fascist. By the way I'm not criticizing you for that, I respect your ability to stay professional, even though I prefer direct and blunt truth. I only mentioned it because I could never pull it off myself. But anyway I think you do good content, and I will subscribe. Just remember that it's completely okay to say what you really think unfiltered, and not only do people get a more honest picture about the game (because thats what a review is for at the end of the day), and nobody is going to hold it against you. The only ones who are mad at you for speaking your mind are the ones who advocate for censorship. And those people already decided to hate you with a burning passion the second that you decided not to glaze the game because of representation alone. That's just unfortunately the world we seem to live in right now. "You can never convince them that you are right, because they have already decided that you're wrong" -Asmongold (about game journalists and woke activists) edit: when i talk about woke i dont mean actual diversity and representation because i think those are good things, i mean the actual insane cultists. in this game that stuff is just ham-fisted and done in a very unnatural and inauthentic way, and thats what most people are pissed at, in fact i know several trans people that are pissed at it. most people have no problem with genuine diversity, inclusion and representation, baldurs gate 3 is the perfect proof of that
So, did you see the secret unlockable after credits scene? I'm guessing not, since you never mentioned. Unsure if I should recommend you to look it up, because it ruins a lot of this already lackluster story.
@calvinwilson3617 oh fuck right off, are you serious?! I’ve only played DA:I and not too far into the lore of the whole world of Dragon Age, but even I know that that is some Grade-A bullshit.
Correct, and children are the most easy to brain wash with there gender politics. And for the people who don't realize these gender politics activists show up everywhere in the entertainment industry supported by left politicians who think it is a good idee to rob children as old as 6 years of there natural born gender by butchering them into the opposite gender. Surgeons are willing to facilitate this because hey it pays 150k for one operation. It's sad really.
Thank you - this is the best video I've seen that has really stripped out what was good and what was an absolute mess. I found it extremely interesting and thoughtful
If anyone reads this and is frustrated by souls games. Try to approach it like a quick time event. It took me years to finally understand that. Man it helped alot. Oh and hiccups have been cured. If you tell yourself they are not real, they vanish. I swear it works. Have a good life.
one of the odder things I found was the invincibility you get whenever you cast a skill really reduces the difficulty of this game when the enemy cannot interrupt your abilities even when a dragon is charging you
And all Bioware needed was the sales. Pull you in, get you to buy. Make it just good enough to make you hold on until it's too late to return it. They got their earnings. Shareholders are happy, c-suite execs are happy, a new generation of gamers have learned their lesson to never trust marketing.
This game really exposed some of these game journalists, The eurogamer twat claiming this was better than mass effect 2, giving it an essential score with the sub title to his review being "howl about that" was clearly a virtual signal that probably had himself patting his own back!
What bothered me the most was even if you try to avoid Taash you are forced to still do her dialogue and a lot of her main story sbd you can’t disagree with her. At all. Ever. The worst you can do is tell her to calm her tits when she’s talking to neve about her outfit. Rook wasn’t the main character unless you kill off Taash then at the very end finally room has a moment to be the main character but legit Taash was forced onto us the entire time to pander to and baby. The only thing I liked in this game was the hair and I liked manfred ngl lol
im so glad to hear this. it doesnt matter if chars are brown asian gay, non binay etc. but the character has to fulfill 2 very important things. 1. it has to make sense in the world. you cannot have a gay character in a country that kills gays on sight as example. or a freely walking black guy in a game where free black people isnt a thing, unless your story compensates by saying you are on the run or some shit. 2. they have to be a good character. cause if the character is jsut "look at me im x" all the time thats not a good character. doesnt matter if its inclusion or not. a character that keeps bragging about that one trickshot they made and nothing else isnt a good character either.
RIP Bioware. I sadly won't even pay attention to Mass Effect 5 when they start talking about it now. This is coming from someone who was obsessed with ME back in the day. Exodus is what we have to look forward to know and whatever Humanoid studios is working on. That's where all the bioware devs went that I care about. This new team is just a bunch of activists playing game dev. Sad times.
- You got my sub the moment you said you're a Latino that plays games and doesn't sit there wishing everyone else were also Latino. Representation is cool and all but not if it sacrifices the narrative. Miles Morales Spiderman was able to put in Latin culture and make it work within the confines of the narrative. Even if his mother called him mijo. It's papi dammit, I've never heard my relatives say mija or mijo over mami and papi.
Soy Hondureño y a veces mi mamá, tia, abuela, etc usan mijo cuando hablan con mi. Todo depende del dialecto claro pero por lo menos en honduras es común. Quizás es común en PR? Gracias por el sub nos vemos en la próxima !
@@PlayerVersusGame - Forgive me, my Spanish is more like Spanglish just because of how I was brought up. So I know basically what you wrote but my replies would be poor. My father is Puerto Rican, born in the Bronx. Growing up I've only ever heard papi and mami, I even call my little one Mami. I learned about mijo and mija from my wife who's Native American and Mexican. Between the two of us there's lots of culture clash when it comes to lingo. It's all good though. Also my brother in law is from Honduras.
@@PlayerVersusGame ¡Es común! También soy de Puerto Rico y se usa mucho en diferentes contextos. Personalmente he visto que se usa mucho "mijo" o "mija" en escenarios exclamativos o de indignación. Por ejemplo: "¡Mija! ¿Quién te dijo eso?" o "Mijo, no, eso no es así." Y puede venir de cualquier perosna de confianza, no solamente de familiares. Es super interesante lo variado es es el lenguaje, incluso dentro de una misma cultura jaja. De hecho, tremendo video. Es triste el mal sabor que este juego va a dejar en la franquicia. Tengo miedo de lo que pasará con el próximo Mass Effect...
The problem is two fold imo. At the most basic the writers are not working on projects that fit their backgrounds. The head of Veilguard was in charge of the Sims. The other problem is these people may not be horrible at the job itself but aren't being empowered to make their own IP's or genuinely design their own vision. Instead these massive companies completely redesign flagship series to what they want to make to minimize risk by having a known title they suspect to get bought just because of an already existing fanbase. Then you couple that with journalists being corporate shills to either maintain access or because their companies have the same shareholders and you get a lot of crap being shoveled out as gold. It's almost offensive to have this game compared to ME2. Not because of how bad Veilguard is but how good ME2 was. It was one of the top games of the golden age of gaming
@PlayerVersusGame I mean if they're publicly traded companies they're going to have the same mainline of investors because the same hedge funds own everything
Solas is the only well written character because his writer is the same as in Inquisition, Patrick Weeks is one of the FEW og writers left, and he is also nuttier than squirrel poop these days too with his head full of the mind virus. Everyone else saw the writing on the wall and bailed or all got fired when EA next big live service flop ate into the CEO's salary.
Nah, I'm gonna stop you. You said "justify" in regards to Taash, and then said it sounded horrible. But it isn't, because you're right. The thing about Taash is that she has no personality or really... use beyond her gender identity. I don't really care about gender identity. Dragon Age has always had queer representation. They just didn't slam it down the throats of the audience before, because it wasn't about that. It was about showing that these people are just as deserving of the same life as everyone else. Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Dorian... they were all queer as hell. Krem was awesome and I loved him. I didn't like Sera all that much, but only because I found her obnoxious. I don't think she's poorly written, and her being gay made sense. But they all had motivations other than being self-centered like Taash. You were right to say "justified" because there's nothing about her that justifies the amount of hassle that the player has to put up with. I don't like her at all, and it's not because she's nonbinary. It's because she's a spoiled, self-centered idiot. I'm pan and demi. And I can't believe that more people aren't disgusted by the way they wrote this character. This isn't representation. This is pandering that's gone so far that it makes anyone who identifies as anything other than the norm seem like garbage. Could you imagine Sten or Bull meeting Taash? They'd be appalled. They didn't give her a personality because they expected people to like her by default just because she's nb.
You might not have cared all that much about the gender thing being super duper front and centre for a companion but it turned off enough people they didn't buy the game; it's not good for a franchise to alienate that many people. It was a huge red flag and people were right that it was telling of it being so much worse. It brings me no joy to see dragon age fail this spectacularly, I would have rather enjoyed another entry to the franchise, but this one isn't it. I also noticed outside of the political stuff a rather aggressively anti-white power balance between the good and bad guys. It's weird seeing almost zero europeans on the good guy team in a medieval style high fantasy game, really shows what the developers think.
Bioware is gone is Ea running the show i can't even imagine what the next Mass Efect will be like if they did this to Dragon Age if they will even making it anymore after this crap
I consider the art style to be one of the worst aspects of that game. I'm not a big fan of cartoonish looking 3D-shooters unless they're actually made to be like cartoons/comics with cell-shading like the Borderlands series, but making a Dragon Age game like that is just bullshit.
25 hours? I imagine you rushed the main story? I finished the game at 90hrs 😂. But that explains why you liked the combat. I liked it at first, but the combat bored me the more I advanced, by the end I was very, VERY tired of it. Not saying is way too bad, but it got very monotone and repetitive. Personally, I prefer the combats of Origins, DA2 and even Inquisition (and I thought this one gets very repetitive as well). Overall, I didn't like the game, I liked it the first 10 hrs, but the more I advanced, the more I disliked it. Overall, the game left me with a sense of guilt and revulsion for having contributed to the sales of this abomination. This game is not canon in my book. It doesn't even deserve to be called Dragon Age, it's not a DA game in any way. I uninstalled it as soon as I finished it.
Yea I mainliner the main quest. And same here, really liked the first 6 hours then the more I played, the more the characters showed how interesting they were, the more the working revealed itself to be bad, the more I disliked the game. Such a shame.
I also enjoyed the combat at first, and I’m also a bit of a completionist and so I’m quite burned out. This game is a SLOG. And I also don’t feel like this game is canon. It did some weird/lame stuff with the lore, and really did a disservice to the antivan crows and tevinter. Seeing them just be so unproblematic? Inoffensive? It was such a let down. I also hate that they destroyed the south, essentially rendering the first 3 games pointless. Just an all around slap in the face to long time fans.
yeah i got finished in about 90 as well...... got the (secret) good ending and was so ready for it all to be done. the combat was boring and companions unmemorable as well as the most disappointing romance ever
@amineguts8612 I don't believe you played the game. The main story was outstanding, as was the way the game tied together the lore and history of the blight and elves and dwarves. The finale was also one of the best of any game. Now the companion writing was a bit "cordial". Not all bad. The Taash quest was terrible but also skippable
As a generic fantasy with RPG elements and light romances, it's pretty solid. As a Dragon Age game and all of the beautiful burden that comes with, it's terrible.
.... "its pretty solid" for the 1st 20 minutes... until you meet Traash... or listen to any background conversation or until you get sick of your character exposing his back for the 100th time to the enemy during a fight Combat is worse than DAO/DA2 None of the characters are likeable.... shat all over the DA2 characters no actual rpg in this "rpg"
Only a few minutes in, but I hope you complain about the shared cooldown timer for companions. Each skill should have its own cooldown, not a master cooldown for all three when any singular power is used. Mind boggling, and painful coming from Inquisition (literally finished it, and jumped into Veilguard.. ugh). Like you, I had a mixed reaction. It wasn't all bad, but it's faaaar from any previous Bioware title in terms of tone, writing, engagement with the lore, etc. I felt like I was living in a cartoon, and not visiting a real place with complexity or nuance.
the way the game plays reminds me of how warframe missions are laid out where you load into missions individually and always return back to ship after unless youre farming relics or blueprints which isnt bad but thats a free experience opposed to a $70 game
Thanks for the opinion. Frankly, I feel like there's too many people who are talking this game up based SOLELY on the messages in the game rather than the actual quality of the game itself. You did the homework, you went through it yourself, and you formulated an opinion based on that, which can help others decide whether or not they want to do the same. No bandwagons, no shills, just straight up experience within the game itself. Keep it up.
2:13 WTF is that absolute garbage attact animation!? this is ultimately why I refused to purchase this game. The character models and animation look more in line with a remastered PS2 game than it does a current generation title with a triple A studio to back it. Tell us you have no real talent at your studio without telling us.
Thank you as a Latino myself I’ve never ever said or felt that video games lacked having “brown” people or even felt like it needed it. Feels good to know someone else feels the same. I agree with you about this game, yeah I bought it. But I’m 31 I grew up with those BioWare games.. and well this ain’t the greatest
I found it funny that every leader either is or gets replaced by anything other than a straight man. Veiljumpers Black Gay Guy and a Woman Mournwach Woman with a Spirit Crows Black Woman and Hispanic Guy Wardens Incompetent white dude gets replaced by Dwarf Woman Lords of Fortune Woman Shadow Dragons Viper gets introduced as the leader but it is later revealed the true leader is Maevis, a woman. Bad Guys: Solas Elganan The White Guard Captain in Minrathous The White Mayor in Treviso For wardens the enemy is basically the First Warden, a white guy The only exceptions are just the Anthaam, Hezenkos, and Ghilanain - Except Ghilanainand Hezenkos are monsters and Antaam are Qunari. As far as I know the only white guy who is a good guy is Emrich and he is gay ;D I did not care but this made me laugh out loud.
@@evakhaan If you do not date anyone, Emrich preffers to date with the Leader of the Veilguard. You can date anyone because they are all bisexual by default. You can date anyone as a man or a woman.
Солас был приятным персонажем, но мне кажется, они пытались сделать из него Императора из BG3. Мы просто ударились головой об тротуар до крови - это такое натянутое, ленивое объяснение тому, почему только мы его видим. Словно это оправдание придумали, чтобы просто сделать как в BG3.
The combat doesn't deserve priase. It works as intended (mostly). That should be industry standard. We don't praise Ford or GM because the ignition works. I should expect that a game has, at mare minimum, functioning controls that work as intended.
nope... its not because of elden ring its because veilguar has boss encounters worse than in almost any game with action combat.... DMC, sekiro, bayonetta, nioh, monster hunter, MGS:Reveneance etc.... veilguard combat feels like 1/10 in comparission to them
@@PlayerVersusGame im glad you brought up the emotion interaction between characters at the end. everything ive seen feels like its just AIs having dialogue with each other. theres nothing behind it. its just * cue set number of lines" *cue reply lines" *cue 3rd character side remark"
Damn, that was well said man. Really enjoyed listening to your thoughts on this. That really sucks about this game though. I was never a huge fan of the series (aside from Origins) but the original Mass Effect trilogy are hands down my favorite RPGs of all time and after Andromeda, Anthem, and now this I have almost zero hope of the next ME being any good. As cliche as it sounds BioWare just ain’t what they used to be. On the bright side though I just started playing Metaphor Refantazio too. I loved all the Persona games so this should be good, will be looking forward to the review!
@@PlayerVersusGame yeah I think the high school setting and heavy social sim aspects turns off some people from the Persona games. I think the setting/tone on this one will be more appealing to most, but the core RPG mechanics and main stories are usually solid. I’m gonna bet you’ll love it!
They are indeed terrible. Final boss was at least something close to a solid fight yet eveything else, especialy fights at the end of companion quests, were hilariously bad. Still can't believe that Bioware didn't even bother with this aspect after turning the game into an action rpg
The people that made this game are not game devs, they're activists and it shows. The puzzles are insulting, the story is a hacked up mess, the lore has all but been abandoned, the character control is missing, the strategy is gone, the fight mechanics are simple, and the player choice is non existent. This game was made as a dev insert story.
most honest review ive seen about this game kudos to the content creator with that said towards the end when he says that he doesnt know if this game is good or bad and the worst part is that its a bioware game that resonated with me and im sure for alot of us gamers who have loved bioware games from the first bulders gate games on pc to knights of the old republic to mass affect and dragon age its sad to see a company's rise and fall especially when you grew up playing such titles with that said these companies arent the same ones we grew up with the majority of the devs are now activist and woke leaders and they dont care about story or delivering a good game all they care about is checking boxes and to make sure representation is included and inclusive they are what we call industry plants put there just to fill in the void but the true passionate devs are no longer there they moved on to making exodus a new sci fi action rpg and from what im told thats were the bulk of bioware's old staff moved too
Я обожаю стереотипную, оскорбительную инклюзивность в этой игре. Это удивительно в 2024 году презентовать персонажа азиата, который любит учиться, гипер-активен, с гиперфиксацией на перфекционизме из-за семейных обстоятельств. О, а еще этот типичный азиатский пучок, лол. Нужно ли говорить спасибо, что у Беллары хотя бы нет рисовой шляпы? Или строгих родителей? У других персонажей черты личности тоже набор клише. Их так пытались сделать близкими к определенным категориям людей, что забыли о том, что они должны быть в первую очередь живыми персонами, которых не определяет лишь одна черта. Я бы выделила только Эммирика. Он действительно был интересен и дарил мне настоящие эмоции во время прохождения.
Comparing this game to Mass Effect 2 should be considered a hate crime. On the one hand you have some of the most likeable characters ever in Mass Effect compared to some of the most unlikable, boring and outright hateful characters in "Dragon Age" the Veilguard. And I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on character design. It was mediocre to horrible depending on the character. Combat was "meh" for an action rpg and shit for a Dragon Age game. And this is where I get to the crux of it. Even as a standalone title this game would have scored a maximum of 6/10 considering the boring combat, bad character design, cringe dialogue and lackluster story but as a Dragon Age game this is a 4/10 and that is being generous. PS: Also, let's be honest this is not the same Bioware we grew up with. They are long gone.
You are rating it far too high.... A 5 is average. This game is a solid 4 prior to considering the characters... and the writing. Once you include the preaching and "modern era" self inserts.... it is a 0.5/10 Its only playable to get footage to shiet on
Being compared to ME2 is what started them ruining the series with DA2. DA was created as a CRPG series and should never have been under pressure to be like ME2 which was in a different subgenre.
The combat is honestly bad , it's simple , way too simple , it's slow , way too slow , and in harder difficulties even slower , and no changes beside the enemies health bars being bloated to hell. Then there is the equipment problem , which is way too bland , no changes at all except the bigger number. Companions are useless punching bags and more importantly , extremely bland and annoying.
Fellow latino man here, can confirm, we're culturally conditioned to roll our eyes at representation and cultural appropriation. Tenemos dragon bol y todo lo demas, long as the story is cool and compelling, who gives a shit.
13:20 Most annoying character survived.. Whaat 😑 Not annoying cause of his Non-BuyNary talks, but in general & em lips aargh ugh 😒 Pixar Age Trashguard available via EA Pro Sub & that's el nice for those who wanna trash mental health. No need to pay more than that seventeen bucks 👌
oooh, thanks for mentioning metaphor refantazio!! I'm really hankering for an actually fun rpg right now -- I'd been pinning a lot of my hopes on veilguard and was so let down...
Excuses and shilling. In regards to blaming Elden ring. Imagine going to a 5 star restaurant (and paying 5 star prices) for a 3-4 star dining experience Imagine then blaming chef Ramsay’s restaurant for setting the bar too high instead of the actual ppl in charge of your mediocre dining experience you were given.
Who green lighted these developers to make a game that pushes their own ideology's and philosophies, especially related to gender, down gamers throats? It's ridiculous that this project even got funded. Whoever is in charge needs to seriously re-evaluate their business model. Also, the writing is terrible on a level that a child could do better...
At the end of the game if you do everyting wrong you can get the happy ending when all your companions die, including Tash. They hid the best one so well 🤣
When you focus on the intendity of the character instead of just writing the character as a person, you create a token and the whole message of inclusivity ends up being holier than thou preaching that nobody will ever get behind.
totally agree. this game is such a huge dissapointing - but they freaking nailed the solas story arc. but its still very sad to we're this game took the dragon age universe. -.-
Can we take a moment collectively to accept that this generation of gaming journalists are liars and grifters and ignore every word they are saying until their industry gets back on track
I promise you that Dragon Age The Veilguard will get nominated for Game of The Year when it couldn't be further from deserving
Absolutely it will. I did a video on Hogwarts legacy and it being omitted from nominations, turns out a large chunk of the jurors didn't play or cover the game and iirc about 2 or 3 of the us based jurors don't even cover video games to any capacity. It's a joke.
Absolutely. There's one that even said that it's the best rpg from Bioware. It's disgusting to even compare it to BG2, Kotor, Mass Effect and DA Origins
Amen!
I've been a gamer since 1988. Gaming journalism was always just a grifting marketing tool for AAA.
The crazy thing about Taash is, DA has literally already done this - Krem from DAI was a trans man and was a better written character (as a side character!) than Taash. Wtf.
thank you I've seen nobody else mention this besides myself
@@mhw4658 people are quick to think you are transphobic or homophobic if you criticize the bad writing in DATV, but the vast majority weren't up in arms about Dorian or Krem. They were both very likable and well-written and their genders/sexualities were just pieces of them, not their entire personalities. It's sad that DATV couldn't uphold that level of writing.
@indigorune i completely concur. they lost almost every employee from that era and it shows. I'm looking forward to Exodus at least. 🙂
What is unusual is that the writer for Krem is also the writer for Taash (from what I gathered). It makes me wonder if EA had a hand in overruling the devs on this matter.
@@nekochan0141 if you mean Weekes.. i used to follow them(?) on twitter and i personally think that "gender ideology" is the cause.
What they really fucked up with is that the Qunari had a term for trans/non-binary. The writers just out of jealousy ignored that.
Kind of worse; they made a point of bringing it up and had the character get pissy about it just so she could yell at her mother more.
The Qunari had that term in Dragon Age: Inquisition. 10 years ago.
@@GangerworldPlays yeah it was in a conversation with Bull about his little merry band of mercs. Bull brings it up when he introduced Crem, who is his second in command. I liked Crem too he had funny stories of what they were up to before they were contracted to the Inquisition, and the bit when you meet Iron bull. " Um yeah... can't seal the casks...we broke them open....WITH AXES!😂"
They fird the qunari creator. She wouldn't Obey thir Inquisition and dark spawns.
@@robinthrush9672 Yeah...
T(r)ash : "No I don't wanna be called the same meaning in an already existing word, I want you to use a word from another world's online culture!"
Her Ma : "What's that supposed to mean?"
T(r)ash : *_Throws even more of a tantrum_*
To quote skill up "Veil guard is a game cosplaying as a Dragon age game"
you are giving it too much credit calling it a game to be honest
As a Hispanic male, i feel the same about representation, not that its bad, but when that becomes the focus it kinda ignores the individuality of the characters. I was so excited to get to know the characters and even romance one of them, but after 30 hours, i stopped caring about most of them.
@@carljennkins7065 yepppp. Where you from bro?
@PlayerVersusGame Dominican Republic!
Ayyy bienvenido!! The characters here were such a let down. And when I was editing this video I had to record that clip of Mordin Solus and that was painful to watch because, it's crazy how ME2 is soold and has way better characters and writing.
@PlayerVersusGame Brooo, for real, I have played all the games recently, and I played ME3 while waiting for this game. Although not the best of the ME series, obviously that is 2, but the writing and character depth is on another level compared to this game.
Im actually scream when darvin invite me to "train" the griffon again right after we just did that few sec. Ago. Dudee are we fighting gods or is this picnic simulator
"when I read [the games journalist article] I was incredibly excited"
That was your first mistake.
haha
Thank You for bringing up ME2. I remember someone on Twitter/X saying DA:Veilguard was as good as ME2 and my response to them was "I doubt that", which for some reason pissed them off. ME2 is a modern classic, very little will live up to its legacy. ME3 and especially Andromeda still stand in that game's shadow.
Speaking of ME2, every time I see Taash, I get the impression that whoever wrote the character liked Jack and tried to recreate her in this game, but didn't understand why Jack works as a character.
I NEVER wanna hear someone fix their lips tp utter that shit. To this day, I will have all Normandy upgrades and full party loyalty but that final mission still feels stressful. A victory we truly fought for and earned. Meanwhile DATV only causes me stress because they went scorched earth to everything that came before this rotting disaster.
ME2 is legendary. They just don't make em like that anymore.
It's almost like they forgot the two most important aspects of Jack. That her trauma was what was making her act like a self destructive child and that she was ultimately wrong for doing so. Jack had a lot of room to grow and heal but Taash is just a selfish idiot who the player is forced to coddle.
In Mass Effect you are encouraged to play nice with Jack because she's a potentially lethal time bomb. In Dragon Age you are forced to play nice with Taash because the game won't allow anything else.
@@PlayerVersusGame baldurs gate 3 felt pretty close to the feeling i had with mass effect 2, but maybe thats just me
I liked the M3 and andromeda combat mechanics more than Me 1 or 2. But the story definitely got worse due to woke youth.
The fact that it is a Bioware game means nothing. The label "Bioware" is just attached to a varying group of devs. The current Bioware has little to do with what Mass Effect 2 Bioware was.
The current Bioware is not the Bioware we got those excellent games from in the past.
It's so sad. Kotor, me2, da origins so good
@@PlayerVersusGame There will be other good RPG-Action games, just not from this Bioware.
@@andreasplosky8516 dude Metaphor refantazio is great so far!
People need to remind themselves who owns Bioware. If EA buys out a software house, you need to just accept that anything that dev once stood for is over now
@@serptimis1552 That is very true. EA has destroyed more than most care to remember.
I believe the word you're looking for that best describes the combat is shallow. It has the illusion of depth but is way too restricted.
Well hot diggity damn that is an excellent word! It is absolutely shallow with s fresh coat of depth paint
the encounter design is piss poor, overly simplified and repetitive as hell.
Combat system in this game is so limited i like playing Mage Class but in this game your so restricted is not even worth playing the mage class Dragon Age origins was and still is the best game for me i still have it and i started playing it again and belive me is way better than Veilguard if you want to make Dragon Age Origins even better get some mods and enjoy
shallow gameplay, with needless pirouettes because the designers wanted to watch ballet rather than an actual fight
Just like the rest of the game; a beautiful surface with no depth or character
Solas and the blight in origins were trying to save us all along
This game ain't an rpg or a good action game, they had their niche and threw it away.
It truly strengthens where they only hired activists as only the graphics and animations are good.
Story terrible and coding nothing special.
They threw it away like 10 years ago. 2 and inquisition are just as bad.
😭😭😭
Nah, DA2 was saved with the Corypheus dlc, and Inquisition just adapted 2's gameplay and improved it, also location and character design were better.
@@zgeye2024 DA 2 wasn’t saved. Inquisition is just boring
fun fact a lot of the people that made old Bioware games have left the studio. 2010 Bioware and 2024 bioware are basically two different studios with two different levels of skill and abilities.
To think we will never get Kotor/ME2 Bioware again....
@PlayerVersusGame there is an indie studio that was created by old Bioware devs. I don't remember the name offhand. I think the game they are making is called exdius or something like that. So not all hope is gone.
@zombieent8796 oh shit hell yes thanks for sharing. I'll look it up!
... and ideas.
a woman choosing to oppose her traditional roles to hunt dragons while otherwise upholding her faith would have been far more compelling than 'i'm nonbinary and you have to respect that'
Okay... I am sorry but Veilguards combat is even simpler that Elden Rings. WAY simpler. You dont need to care about parrying or enemy moves almost at all because its so extremely easy to dodge them. And you only get 3 abilities in Veilguard while in Elden Ring you get up to 10 spell slots + weapon arts of up to 4 equiped weapons? Yeah no... Thats incomparable.
And as far as Boss fights are concerned. I would say that Elden Ring is above average there is no doubt about it. But there are many games where "bosses" or large monsters are great (Monster Hunter for example). Meanwhile in Veilguard they are pretty much Pinatas.
As far as enviroment and graphics are concerned. Its okay. Why just okay? Because pretty much every AAA game published in this "generation" can boast the same or better. So its somewhat to be expected.
So yeah thats for the things you listed as "good". As far as my experience goes. They really arent. Thats not to say they are bad. But they are at best "okay-ish". And that simply doesnt cut it for 10 years waiting time for sequel from big studio with more than enough funding.
Fair enough. You do make ab excellent point, what Veilguard got right according to me are things that games (especially AAA in production) should get right, it's like the price of admission so to say. Bosses being piñatas, yes can't argue there.
you can literally close your eyes and play on normal . a youtuber did it already XD.
@@martinbudinsky8912 Yeah, a game like Stellar Blade with much less budget can have beautiful environments. Veilguard needs more then looking pretty to justify it's existence.
I mean i think you're vastly overestimating Bioware as a company right now and the funding they received. Anthem was already a flop by the time production for veilguard was underway (a previous iteration was scrapped previously and there were no immediate plans to continue for a few years). This wasn't a game with 10 years of development and it was developed at a time when EA had very little faith in bioware. I see people on forums throwing around "$300 million budget", which is laughable. GTA5 is the highest budget development thus far in gaming history at $265 million. It's, i'm sorry to say, very stupid to estimate a budget that exceeds or even comes close to that. Inquisition was considered a bit of a money pit for bioware with a budget for development and marketing combined reaching $125 million. For reference, witcher 3 was $30 million for development and marketing combined. I see no plausible universe where Veilguard had any sort of unlimited budget. No idea why people's expectations were so high when bioware is not the Triple A giant people seem to think it is.
@@BBS-dl1lt "Anthem was already a flop by the time production for veilguard was underway (a previous iteration was scrapped previously and there were no immediate plans to continue for a few years)." - The previous version wasnt scrapped. It was rewritten multiple times. And it was in development the whole 10 years. Only more and less intensive but still was (this is info from Bioware itself you can look up).
"I see people on forums throwing around "$300 million budget", which is laughable. GTA5 is the highest budget development thus far in gaming history at $265 million. It's, i'm sorry to say, very stupid to estimate a budget that exceeds or even comes close to that." - I never said their budget was 265 million $ . HOWEVER! Its known that budget for the previous DA Inquisition was around150 million $. So you can reasonably expect the budget for Veilguard to be at least that (and more when you account for inflation since then) if you account for the long development period. Which is no small budget by any means! (Also CD RED was nowhere near as reputable or big before Withcer 3 and its also based in Poland where prices are much lower and it was long time ago so theres a lot of inflation since then.... You have to account for ALL of that.)
"No idea why people's expectations were so high when bioware is not the Triple A giant people seem to think it is." - Well you gotta realize that said funding of Bioware doesnt come from Bioware itself but EA. And thats still alive and kicking with a lot of money coming from stuff like APEX, FIFA and so on. So its not like they dont have money to throw at a project.
And if you try to go by the logic "why would they throw money at project people clearly do not want". Dont. Just dont. And look at whats happening with AC Shadows right now and how much Ubisoft sank into it already...
Hey Guys/ Gals! We've got Inclusiveness-Bingo over here! Check 5 inclusiveness boxes in a row and win the right to not feel morally superior but also berate others! Its inclusiveness ppl!
You referring to Taash?
@@PlayerVersusGame Taash, Taash, Taash... A mentally challenged game devs forcible inserted personal alter ego "Mary Sue" -character telling ppl to commit corporal punishment onto themselfs IrL for/if ever having a slip of the tongue or not being "inclusive" enough? That one should easily count as three boxes! Now if I only could have ONE person representing the need for games having good stories and dialouges first and foremost, instead of having an inclusive cast of evetyone and then some just for diversitys sake instead of THAT, I could win that extra inclusiveness-badge to put onto my car. Proudly telling everyone i've friends of all sorts, and on all spectrums, and that I've social coult to tell everyone I'm moraly morally superior to everyone else.
I saw a video saying that in veilguard it's said that Southern thedas has been destroyed. Is that true? Then that means there was no point to dragon age origins and inquisition
May as well be (idk honestly), dragon age keep or whatever is called wasn't used so all the decisions that would've been kept there from our playthrough of the previous games are gone. It got boiled down to 4 questions. Witcher 3 had an entire interrogation cutscene to simulate the choices from witcher 2 for those who didn't play part 2. Crazy that this series couldn't give its own games the same courtesy.
@PlayerVersusGame yup. It's crazy how the game turned out. This is the video by the way. ua-cam.com/video/yApDQD7vVCA/v-deo.htmlsi=-h41iR2muXwocDMV
They basically did what Disney did to Star Wars since they didn't want to deal with all the novels and games. Nobody liked it there, and no lessons appear to have been learned.
Yes. They basically also told you about the destruction of Ferelden, Orlais, Free Marches by a simple letter from the Inquisitor. No cinematic. No dramatic last stand by the heroes you got to know from there. Just "yeah sout thedas is destroyed get over it."
@aeronfarinas smh. Damn.
The best thing about Mass Effect (1, 2 and 3) is that the most interesting characters are from the alien races. Mordin, Liara, T'Ali, Wrex, Thane, Grunt...they are all so well written and flushed out it's criminal how poorly Bioware conveys their characters now. It's as shallow as a bathtub, where we used to have oceans of lore and context about why a character reacts to a situation. Such an unfortunate demise.
Your point about the Metaphor comparison is spot on. Playing that game makes you want to know more about these people because they're part of this world and they all have their own reasons to want to see this quest through beyond "the bad guys are bad".
Veilguard reads like a teenage fanfiction where everyone is obsessed with inane quirks, the party has to repeatedly give speeches to each other about how great of a team they are, and no icky moral complexities can exist because the writer doesn't want to tarnish their precious characters by ever implying that they could do something bad.
What happened? I know they lost the most important creatives over the years, but this game is written like nothing but complete amateurs were at the helm.
Just finished Origins for the first time and one of my favorite aspects of the companions is that most of your party dislike or straight up hate each other and are constantly throwing jabs between themselves for most of the game😂
Morrigan will find almost any excuse to bash someone. Sten is a fucking brick and looks at everyone with scorn at first. Zevran's a smug lil prick with Alistair's smary ass not being much better. Oghren is just well plastered 99% of the time and cant function.
I think the only two party members that genuinely get along from the jump are Leliana and Wynne, the most generally good people in your group.
I enjoy the lack of cohesion this group has and banter you overhear them have as you travel around Fereldan.
They r written by peopl efresh out o college, with diversity reducattion indoctrination camps. So they just reproduced what they learnd a tcollege.
@@RevulsiveLooper A lot of leaders feel like the MC role there. We spend most tof our time resolving pettty ribal disputes.
As a trans girl, I was really let down by how this game handled the trans and non-binary characters. I think it's fine to have a character's gender identity play a part in their backstory or storyline (like maybe you can have a character who is running away from home because they have transphobic parents), but it should never be the entire point of the character. I think the worst part of the trans portrayal in this game was when another character accidentally misgenders Taash, and does ten push ups as an apology...to any non-trans people reading this, I promise you that the best thing you can do if you accidentally misgender someone is to casually apologize and just move on. Making a big scene of it is only going to make the trans person feel even more uncomfortable, and it's so strange to me that whoever wrote this scene thought this would be appealing to trans and non-binary players. Honestly, having a character punish themselves for accidentally misgendering someone, and having the game portray this as the right thing to do, is honestly really harmful because it gives transphobes more leverage to push the stereotype of the bossy and oversensitive trans person that gets used in transphobic rhetoric. Honestly, given the hostility trans people have to put up with in the world, putting this in a mainstream game is honestly kinda irresponsible, because it's only gonna make people more prejudiced.
Well first of all you're not a girl.
Well said, and we had an arguably better depiction in Inquistion with Krem, who was trans, but also had good character development and personality. When we get to know a well rounded character, we care about them much more than if all we got was one characterist or group they belong to.
@@Hrafnskald Yeah, Krem feels like an actual character whereas Taash feels like something made up for an HR meeting
@@CultOfMonika Damn Monica, first killing all your friends and now this? Okay but seriously though, I know you probably felt cool writing this but you should probably get an actual hobby
To some extent the monologue had some interesting ideas into it like the part where people that make the mistake make it about themselves and not mean it in their way of apologizing but it really was poorly handled. If the way you make your point takes the player completely out of the game's universe your writing is bad. And I'm not concerned so that's just my two cents but I think you're right about making a scene out of it. Is it not another way to make it about yourself, walk away as the good guy and make the people you misgender feel bad?
I feel like it might be better to apologize and take time later with the person to really apologize more deeply perhaps, maybe learn from him/her instead of doing that in public. And give him/her the choice to have that conversation or not
I think what you're tiptoeing about when talking about Taash is that their conflict is plainly stupid when compared to the conflicts that, for example, mass effect 2 had. Now I don't intend to attack trans people by saying this, your struggle is NOT stupid, but Taash's just is. No two ways about it. Taash is a teenager character with teenager problems, whereas mass effect 2 characters were adults with adult problems, and some really intense problems at that. The conflict between Taash and her mom, who actually takes care of her and loves her (thereby the not-so-heavy issues in her life), is just so boring and small compared to, say, Jacob in ME2 finding out his hero dad was actually Kurtz from Heart of Darkness...
This is just off the top of my head, but maybe if their mother disliked them so much that she sold them to the Antaam for their fire breathing ability, or something like that, now that's much darker and dramatic, and would be more in keeping with that ME2 brought to the table, without sacrificing representation. Perhaps in the end their mother would see that they were valuable after all, even if they're not like other Qunari, or something of the sort, and get that emotional release
Well said.
its an okay game..but its not a dragon age game
It was going to be judged compared to origins the second they called it dragon age. If they called it "something something" they wouldn't have upset fans but they wanted to capitalize on it because they knew a random unknown title would have no sales especially since it's political. They failed either way.
Facts
I block it out of My Mind and act like I'm not playing a Dragon Age Game.... Just a New something something game🤷🏾♂️
It's definitely a dragon age game lol...literally in the dragon age universe with all the dragon age characters.. It may not be a great dragon age game but it's absolutely dragon age
What even is a dragon age game? Every one is completely different.
@@mattscheib6801 there are common threads that have gone through all of them except Veilguard. Such as a darker tone, there being racism towards elves, and tension between the mages and templars
Thank you for giving credit to solas,they really should've focused more heavily on him considering he carried this game on his back
Poor guy broke his spine doing so.
I think you hit the nail on the head there - I stopped playing the game mid fight at Weisshaubt though, because I realized that up until then it had been nothing but brainless sameness and I understood that I couldn't expect anything more. I really wasn't looking forward to more of the same, hour after hour, so I gave up. I am impressed that you actually finished it, to be honest!
Thanks. I think I kept hoping to see it be better but na. Knowing I was gonna do this video I also felt I had to finish it so I could have the full picture
@@PlayerVersusGame That was my plan all along too; I livestreamed it blind until mid-fight Weisshaubt to give my friends and followers the opportunity to choose for themselves before they bought the game. I got careless in the boss fight, because of how repetitive it was, then I died and realized that I didn't want to return to that. I just couldn't. Not even for the sake of the story. As I said - I am really impressed, and your review is great too. I like that you keep trying to remain as neutral as you possibly can all through the end of your video. My review is not as balanced, because I was pissed off 😆
@@splashopain thanks a lot I appreciate that. If you saw my first impressions video I had very good things to say about it and took a poor angle with regard to grifters. Which i got a lot of shit for, rightfully so to a degree. Once I got to Taash, it became super evident. I started this channel to join the conversation not pulling for one side of the or the other. Just calling it how I see it. So thanks, I appreciate the feedback and conversation. Now back to metaphor
16:06 Yeah pretty lost on Bioware these days. Why being Gay triumphs all other aspects of a character's personality makes no sense to me. And I extend that to player's to. I've never felt discriminated against or excluded playing games where there were no Latinos. Baldur's Gate 2 (also developed by Bioware) remains my all time favorite RPG, and there is very little what we would call "modern" cultural elements. I just don't care. BG2 is a fantastic game, with good characters, solid plot, and entertaining gameplay.
Hola fellow latino where you from? Also man I NEVER played the original BG games. My first intro to BG was Dark Alliance on PS2. That led to Champions of Norrath and so on. Anyway, Yea, I just need my games to be fun to play, and have great stories with equally great characters. Simple.
@@PlayerVersusGame You should definitely check them out, the enhanced editions are on steam and PC is the platform i would recommend playing them on as Bioware created the engine originally for RTS titles before changing to RPGs so it just works better with mouse and keyboard. They don't play like Dark Alliance though so don't expect that, they are party based RPGs with a lot exploration, dialogue choices, very narrative heavy, etc. You play the same protagonist in both games and can import your save from 1 to 2. 1 is a great game and 2 for me is one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
They are GayMing.
Taash is very obviously a mentally ill writer's self-insert and a vehicle to trauma dump to the players because they had such a rough childhood. She is supposed to be 30 years old by the way, but she acts like a 13 year old who is childish for their age. Throwing tantrums like a toddler, misunderstanding on purpose, demands respect and acceptance from everyone for her identity but refuses to give any to others. For example, she absolutely refuses to call Emmrich what he wants to be called and instead has to call him other names that he finds hurtful. The lack of self-awareness is absolutely insane. Just a terrible narcissistic self-centered character with terrible dialogue and terrible writing. I couldn't stomach continuing the game after Taash's mom told the Dragon King that Taash is stronger than him because she has come to terms with her own identity. That made me physically cringe so bad I had no option but to turn the game off and uninstall immediately. I just couldn't take it anymore.
And about dialogue, you probably noticed but most dialogue in the game is designed to make sure that the player is on the same page as the game. The companions are literally just telling you what youre supposed to think. It's insanely immersion breaking and frankly it feels like the game thinks you're stupid. It's treating you like you're a child. Speech options don't say what they tell you they're going to say, and you're never allowed to criticize anyone or call them out on their bad behaviour. You're only allowed to be supportive and treat Taash with silk gloves like she is a baby. Extremely infuriating. I think you were very polite to them in this review, I'm not gonna lie xdd
It's a hard thing for me to do (be unfiltered) because my professional career revolves around being professional, courteous, even when giving tough feedback. Sometimes I don't remember how to turn that switch off
@@PlayerVersusGame I completely understand that I just feel like when you're on UA-cam on your own channel, you're allowed to speak your mind, and people usually respect just being honest and saying what you think. It's impossible not to offend anyone. You can be perfectly respectful, only criticize the gameplay elements and not even mention the identity politics and be the absolute pinnacle of professionalism, and just because you didn't like the game, the woke cultists on reddit and games media will still flag you as a far-right transphobic chud. Because that's just how they operate. Anyone who disagrees with them is automatically a fascist. By the way I'm not criticizing you for that, I respect your ability to stay professional, even though I prefer direct and blunt truth. I only mentioned it because I could never pull it off myself. But anyway I think you do good content, and I will subscribe. Just remember that it's completely okay to say what you really think unfiltered, and not only do people get a more honest picture about the game (because thats what a review is for at the end of the day), and nobody is going to hold it against you. The only ones who are mad at you for speaking your mind are the ones who advocate for censorship. And those people already decided to hate you with a burning passion the second that you decided not to glaze the game because of representation alone. That's just unfortunately the world we seem to live in right now.
"You can never convince them that you are right, because they have already decided that you're wrong" -Asmongold (about game journalists and woke activists)
edit: when i talk about woke i dont mean actual diversity and representation because i think those are good things, i mean the actual insane cultists. in this game that stuff is just ham-fisted and done in a very unnatural and inauthentic way, and thats what most people are pissed at, in fact i know several trans people that are pissed at it. most people have no problem with genuine diversity, inclusion and representation, baldurs gate 3 is the perfect proof of that
You my friend are 100% right! Appreciate feedback and insight. See you around, take care.
@@PlayerVersusGame thank you, see you in the next video then xd
So, did you see the secret unlockable after credits scene? I'm guessing not, since you never mentioned. Unsure if I should recommend you to look it up, because it ruins a lot of this already lackluster story.
No I did not. Feel free to share! Tell us or drop a link, whichever you prefer, thanks!
@@PlayerVersusGame This only plays if you collect all the three orbs. ua-cam.com/video/isLJGgNlxXg/v-deo.html
@PlayerVersusGame they retconned every prior DA game. There has been a group of shadowy figures manipulating all the major events of the games
@calvinwilson3617 oh fuck right off, are you serious?! I’ve only played DA:I and not too far into the lore of the whole world of Dragon Age, but even I know that that is some Grade-A bullshit.
The cartoony style is so that kids will gravitate towards it. And their agenda lies in waiting for them.
Correct, and children are the most easy to brain wash with there gender politics. And for the people who don't realize these gender politics activists show up everywhere in the entertainment industry supported by left politicians who think it is a good idee to rob children as old as 6 years of there natural born gender by butchering them into the opposite gender. Surgeons are willing to facilitate this because hey it pays 150k for one operation. It's sad really.
Same reason it's lacking the blood, gory kill animations, etc.
Ever notice how most cartoons whether made for adults or children has a lesbian character in it? Maybe and/or a gay one, but more often a lesbian.
Lesbians are the easiest to accept gays cause its two women and two women together is fetishism @crazyfnjoey
What agenda? Be more accepting? Oh how terrible! Piss off!
Solas is the perfect antagonist. You love him and hate him, he stirs emotions within you that no other character has.
Solas was very well done in this game.
Thank you - this is the best video I've seen that has really stripped out what was good and what was an absolute mess. I found it extremely interesting and thoughtful
Hey thank you! Appreciate your feedback. I'll keep the content coming.
Ten years I've waited for this game. Just...
I'm right there with you. Besides FF7 Rebirth, this was my second most anticipated game of this year...
Remember, this game was planned as a life service. Everything in it screams live coop-action-rpg: The combat, the level design, the animations.
Entire dev team, everyone who worked on this- infected with blight. I'm convinced.
If anyone reads this and is frustrated by souls games. Try to approach it like a quick time event. It took me years to finally understand that. Man it helped alot. Oh and hiccups have been cured. If you tell yourself they are not real, they vanish. I swear it works. Have a good life.
one of the odder things I found was the invincibility you get whenever you cast a skill
really reduces the difficulty of this game when the enemy cannot interrupt your abilities even when a dragon is charging you
And all Bioware needed was the sales.
Pull you in, get you to buy. Make it just good enough to make you hold on until it's too late to return it.
They got their earnings. Shareholders are happy, c-suite execs are happy, a new generation of gamers have learned their lesson to never trust marketing.
This game really exposed some of these game journalists, The eurogamer twat claiming this was better than mass effect 2, giving it an essential score with the sub title to his review being "howl about that" was clearly a virtual signal that probably had himself patting his own back!
What bothered me the most was even if you try to avoid Taash you are forced to still do her dialogue and a lot of her main story sbd you can’t disagree with her. At all. Ever. The worst you can do is tell her to calm her tits when she’s talking to neve about her outfit. Rook wasn’t the main character unless you kill off Taash then at the very end finally room has a moment to be the main character but legit Taash was forced onto us the entire time to pander to and baby. The only thing I liked in this game was the hair and I liked manfred ngl lol
Calling this game an RPG is an insult to the genre.
Oh maaan. I miss Mordan Solas.
You and I both.
im so glad to hear this.
it doesnt matter if chars are brown asian gay, non binay etc.
but the character has to fulfill 2 very important things.
1. it has to make sense in the world. you cannot have a gay character in a country that kills gays on sight as example. or a freely walking black guy in a game where free black people isnt a thing, unless your story compensates by saying you are on the run or some shit.
2. they have to be a good character. cause if the character is jsut "look at me im x" all the time thats not a good character. doesnt matter if its inclusion or not. a character that keeps bragging about that one trickshot they made and nothing else isnt a good character either.
RIP Bioware. I sadly won't even pay attention to Mass Effect 5 when they start talking about it now. This is coming from someone who was obsessed with ME back in the day. Exodus is what we have to look forward to know and whatever Humanoid studios is working on. That's where all the bioware devs went that I care about. This new team is just a bunch of activists playing game dev. Sad times.
- You got my sub the moment you said you're a Latino that plays games and doesn't sit there wishing everyone else were also Latino. Representation is cool and all but not if it sacrifices the narrative. Miles Morales Spiderman was able to put in Latin culture and make it work within the confines of the narrative. Even if his mother called him mijo. It's papi dammit, I've never heard my relatives say mija or mijo over mami and papi.
Soy Hondureño y a veces mi mamá, tia, abuela, etc usan mijo cuando hablan con mi. Todo depende del dialecto claro pero por lo menos en honduras es común. Quizás es común en PR? Gracias por el sub nos vemos en la próxima !
@@PlayerVersusGame - Forgive me, my Spanish is more like Spanglish just because of how I was brought up. So I know basically what you wrote but my replies would be poor. My father is Puerto Rican, born in the Bronx. Growing up I've only ever heard papi and mami, I even call my little one Mami. I learned about mijo and mija from my wife who's Native American and Mexican. Between the two of us there's lots of culture clash when it comes to lingo. It's all good though. Also my brother in law is from Honduras.
@@PlayerVersusGame ¡Es común! También soy de Puerto Rico y se usa mucho en diferentes contextos. Personalmente he visto que se usa mucho "mijo" o "mija" en escenarios exclamativos o de indignación. Por ejemplo: "¡Mija! ¿Quién te dijo eso?" o "Mijo, no, eso no es así." Y puede venir de cualquier perosna de confianza, no solamente de familiares. Es super interesante lo variado es es el lenguaje, incluso dentro de una misma cultura jaja.
De hecho, tremendo video. Es triste el mal sabor que este juego va a dejar en la franquicia. Tengo miedo de lo que pasará con el próximo Mass Effect...
@Shaderovi ahorita no quiero pensar lo que va pasar con ME. No estoy listo para aceptar eso jajaja
The problem is two fold imo. At the most basic the writers are not working on projects that fit their backgrounds. The head of Veilguard was in charge of the Sims. The other problem is these people may not be horrible at the job itself but aren't being empowered to make their own IP's or genuinely design their own vision. Instead these massive companies completely redesign flagship series to what they want to make to minimize risk by having a known title they suspect to get bought just because of an already existing fanbase. Then you couple that with journalists being corporate shills to either maintain access or because their companies have the same shareholders and you get a lot of crap being shoveled out as gold. It's almost offensive to have this game compared to ME2. Not because of how bad Veilguard is but how good ME2 was. It was one of the top games of the golden age of gaming
Hey now interesting, are these games media companies actually owned by the same companies that own these devs/publishers?!
@PlayerVersusGame I mean if they're publicly traded companies they're going to have the same mainline of investors because the same hedge funds own everything
25 hours .. iam 40 hours in and did not even finish act 1, (and i dont plan to because i dont like the game) but how in 25 hours?
I basically Golden pathed it, did all of taash's quest line and a few side things but mostly focused on main quest.
Can you refund it at least
@@eastbow6053 sadly nope :(
@@csais1 then do a stream with bad ending and killing all the companions that may earn you back some money
Besides the absence of background music, this was a great breakdown of something I don't want to play :)
Haha thanks. I always struggle with background music. Is it too distracting or not? But I guess in s longer video like this it would be helpful?
Solas is the only well written character because his writer is the same as in Inquisition, Patrick Weeks is one of the FEW og writers left, and he is also nuttier than squirrel poop these days too with his head full of the mind virus. Everyone else saw the writing on the wall and bailed or all got fired when EA next big live service flop ate into the CEO's salary.
Nah, I'm gonna stop you. You said "justify" in regards to Taash, and then said it sounded horrible. But it isn't, because you're right. The thing about Taash is that she has no personality or really... use beyond her gender identity. I don't really care about gender identity. Dragon Age has always had queer representation. They just didn't slam it down the throats of the audience before, because it wasn't about that. It was about showing that these people are just as deserving of the same life as everyone else. Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Dorian... they were all queer as hell. Krem was awesome and I loved him. I didn't like Sera all that much, but only because I found her obnoxious. I don't think she's poorly written, and her being gay made sense. But they all had motivations other than being self-centered like Taash. You were right to say "justified" because there's nothing about her that justifies the amount of hassle that the player has to put up with. I don't like her at all, and it's not because she's nonbinary. It's because she's a spoiled, self-centered idiot.
I'm pan and demi. And I can't believe that more people aren't disgusted by the way they wrote this character. This isn't representation. This is pandering that's gone so far that it makes anyone who identifies as anything other than the norm seem like garbage. Could you imagine Sten or Bull meeting Taash? They'd be appalled. They didn't give her a personality because they expected people to like her by default just because she's nb.
Bro you are allowed to say things that are not super friendly if you don't like something. Just try it once
You might not have cared all that much about the gender thing being super duper front and centre for a companion but it turned off enough people they didn't buy the game; it's not good for a franchise to alienate that many people. It was a huge red flag and people were right that it was telling of it being so much worse. It brings me no joy to see dragon age fail this spectacularly, I would have rather enjoyed another entry to the franchise, but this one isn't it. I also noticed outside of the political stuff a rather aggressively anti-white power balance between the good and bad guys. It's weird seeing almost zero europeans on the good guy team in a medieval style high fantasy game, really shows what the developers think.
What happened? DEI happened. Wokeness happened. Bioware can't die soon enough.
Bioware is gone is Ea running the show i can't even imagine what the next Mass Efect will be like if they did this to Dragon Age if they will even making it anymore after this crap
Bioware is dead. EA is puppeting the corpse.
The script writers here in Failguard are all being funneled to write for the upcoming Mass Effect game... you excited for that?
I consider the art style to be one of the worst aspects of that game. I'm not a big fan of cartoonish looking 3D-shooters unless they're actually made to be like cartoons/comics with cell-shading like the Borderlands series, but making a Dragon Age game like that is just bullshit.
25 hours? I imagine you rushed the main story?
I finished the game at 90hrs 😂. But that explains why you liked the combat. I liked it at first, but the combat bored me the more I advanced, by the end I was very, VERY tired of it. Not saying is way too bad, but it got very monotone and repetitive.
Personally, I prefer the combats of Origins, DA2 and even Inquisition (and I thought this one gets very repetitive as well).
Overall, I didn't like the game, I liked it the first 10 hrs, but the more I advanced, the more I disliked it.
Overall, the game left me with a sense of guilt and revulsion for having contributed to the sales of this abomination.
This game is not canon in my book. It doesn't even deserve to be called Dragon Age, it's not a DA game in any way.
I uninstalled it as soon as I finished it.
Yea I mainliner the main quest. And same here, really liked the first 6 hours then the more I played, the more the characters showed how interesting they were, the more the working revealed itself to be bad, the more I disliked the game. Such a shame.
I also enjoyed the combat at first, and I’m also a bit of a completionist and so I’m quite burned out. This game is a SLOG. And I also don’t feel like this game is canon. It did some weird/lame stuff with the lore, and really did a disservice to the antivan crows and tevinter. Seeing them just be so unproblematic? Inoffensive? It was such a let down. I also hate that they destroyed the south, essentially rendering the first 3 games pointless. Just an all around slap in the face to long time fans.
yeah i got finished in about 90 as well...... got the (secret) good ending and was so ready for it all to be done. the combat was boring and companions unmemorable as well as the most disappointing romance ever
i want those corner lamps, and great Video. I am now Subscribed
Thanks for the sub! Here's the link for the lamps.
www.amazon.com/dp/B0D97NRMN8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
The cohesion of this unscripted discussion/review is better than the whole fucking game's story and characters and the writers personalities combined
Thanks! I think? I recorded a fully scripted version but I didn't like how the message came through so I decided to just speak from the heart.
@PlayerVersusGame Can never go wrong like that! Unfiltered criticism is what's been missing since the rise of corporate journalism..
@amineguts8612 I don't believe you played the game. The main story was outstanding, as was the way the game tied together the lore and history of the blight and elves and dwarves. The finale was also one of the best of any game.
Now the companion writing was a bit "cordial". Not all bad. The Taash quest was terrible but also skippable
It’s so funny, I also stared playing metaphor right after finishing DAV 😂..
I feel ya bro!
As a generic fantasy with RPG elements and light romances, it's pretty solid. As a Dragon Age game and all of the beautiful burden that comes with, it's terrible.
.... "its pretty solid" for the 1st 20 minutes...
until you meet Traash... or listen to any background conversation
or until you get sick of your character exposing his back for the 100th time to the enemy during a fight
Combat is worse than DAO/DA2
None of the characters are likeable.... shat all over the DA2 characters
no actual rpg in this "rpg"
Only a few minutes in, but I hope you complain about the shared cooldown timer for companions. Each skill should have its own cooldown, not a master cooldown for all three when any singular power is used. Mind boggling, and painful coming from Inquisition (literally finished it, and jumped into Veilguard.. ugh).
Like you, I had a mixed reaction. It wasn't all bad, but it's faaaar from any previous Bioware title in terms of tone, writing, engagement with the lore, etc. I felt like I was living in a cartoon, and not visiting a real place with complexity or nuance.
the way the game plays reminds me of how warframe missions are laid out where you load into missions individually and always return back to ship after unless youre farming relics or blueprints which isnt bad but thats a free experience opposed to a $70 game
Thanks for the opinion. Frankly, I feel like there's too many people who are talking this game up based SOLELY on the messages in the game rather than the actual quality of the game itself. You did the homework, you went through it yourself, and you formulated an opinion based on that, which can help others decide whether or not they want to do the same. No bandwagons, no shills, just straight up experience within the game itself. Keep it up.
2:13 WTF is that absolute garbage attact animation!? this is ultimately why I refused to purchase this game. The character models and animation look more in line with a remastered PS2 game than it does a current generation title with a triple A studio to back it. Tell us you have no real talent at your studio without telling us.
What a wonderful, well-presented and articulate video. Have a sub.
Why thank you!
If a game has they/them in it, it belongs in the trash
Taash survived!!? 😧 whyyyyyy??
This is not Dragon Age.
Thank you as a Latino myself I’ve never ever said or felt that video games lacked having “brown” people or even felt like it needed it. Feels good to know someone else feels the same. I agree with you about this game, yeah I bought it. But I’m 31 I grew up with those BioWare games.. and well this ain’t the greatest
I found it funny that every leader either is or gets replaced by anything other than a straight man.
Veiljumpers
Black Gay Guy and a Woman
Mournwach
Woman with a Spirit
Crows
Black Woman and Hispanic Guy
Wardens
Incompetent white dude gets replaced by Dwarf Woman
Lords of Fortune
Woman
Shadow Dragons
Viper gets introduced as the leader but it is later revealed the true leader is Maevis, a woman.
Bad Guys:
Solas
Elganan
The White Guard Captain in Minrathous
The White Mayor in Treviso
For wardens the enemy is basically the First Warden, a white guy
The only exceptions are just the Anthaam, Hezenkos, and Ghilanain - Except Ghilanainand Hezenkos are monsters and Antaam are Qunari.
As far as I know the only white guy who is a good guy is Emrich and he is gay ;D
I did not care but this made me laugh out loud.
I never once noticed that. Whoa.
I think you mean a white straight man? Because a black man can be straight too lol
В команде нет геев вообще, они все готовы встречаться с кем угодно, просто выполни их квест 😅
That's been a thing in gaming since the mid 2000s, I've spent many years rolling my eyes any time a leadership changing questline pops up.
@@evakhaan If you do not date anyone, Emrich preffers to date with the Leader of the Veilguard. You can date anyone because they are all bisexual by default. You can date anyone as a man or a woman.
Солас был приятным персонажем, но мне кажется, они пытались сделать из него Императора из BG3.
Мы просто ударились головой об тротуар до крови - это такое натянутое, ленивое объяснение тому, почему только мы его видим. Словно это оправдание придумали, чтобы просто сделать как в BG3.
Are there any mods to play this game without the story yet.
The combat doesn't deserve priase. It works as intended (mostly). That should be industry standard. We don't praise Ford or GM because the ignition works. I should expect that a game has, at mare minimum, functioning controls that work as intended.
nope... its not because of elden ring its because veilguar has boss encounters worse than in almost any game with action combat.... DMC, sekiro, bayonetta, nioh, monster hunter, MGS:Reveneance etc.... veilguard combat feels like 1/10 in comparission to them
DA2 combat is better than Failguard..... Failguard uses "slash effects" to hide that the attacks are not even landing
...i smell a bharv coming up. dont say anything bad....
Assuh dude
@@PlayerVersusGame im glad you brought up the emotion interaction between characters at the end. everything ive seen feels like its just AIs having dialogue with each other. theres nothing behind it. its just * cue set number of lines" *cue reply lines" *cue 3rd character side remark"
@@pw3ninja yea man it was so bland. Sucks bro. Wanted this to be great but na.
Damn, that was well said man. Really enjoyed listening to your thoughts on this. That really sucks about this game though. I was never a huge fan of the series (aside from Origins) but the original Mass Effect trilogy are hands down my favorite RPGs of all time and after Andromeda, Anthem, and now this I have almost zero hope of the next ME being any good. As cliche as it sounds BioWare just ain’t what they used to be.
On the bright side though I just started playing Metaphor Refantazio too. I loved all the Persona games so this should be good, will be looking forward to the review!
Dude I played a few hours of P5 and it didn't click. But 30 minutes (now several hours) of Metaphor and I'm HOOKED!
@@PlayerVersusGame yeah I think the high school setting and heavy social sim aspects turns off some people from the Persona games. I think the setting/tone on this one will be more appealing to most, but the core RPG mechanics and main stories are usually solid. I’m gonna bet you’ll love it!
Oh man so far I really do. The soundtrack SLAPS, VO is solid, writing is great so far, combat is *chefs* kiss.
Imagine learning all the skills and cant even uaed them because reasons
The only true evil roleplay you can do is sending all your companions to their death 😂
not crucifying you but the boss fights are just bad. Not because of Elden Ring, they are just simple bad.
They are indeed terrible. Final boss was at least something close to a solid fight yet eveything else, especialy fights at the end of companion quests, were hilariously bad. Still can't believe that Bioware didn't even bother with this aspect after turning the game into an action rpg
With what we got with Veilguard a part of me wonders what the game would have been like had it still been Dragon Age dreadwolf
The people that made this game are not game devs, they're activists and it shows. The puzzles are insulting, the story is a hacked up mess, the lore has all but been abandoned, the character control is missing, the strategy is gone, the fight mechanics are simple, and the player choice is non existent. This game was made as a dev insert story.
Great video keep em coming!
most honest review ive seen about this game kudos to the content creator with that said towards the end when he says that he doesnt know if this game is good or bad and the worst part is that its a bioware game that resonated with me and im sure for alot of us gamers who have loved bioware games from the first bulders gate games on pc to knights of the old republic to mass affect and dragon age its sad to see a company's rise and fall especially when you grew up playing such titles with that said these companies arent the same ones we grew up with the majority of the devs are now activist and woke leaders and they dont care about story or delivering a good game all they care about is checking boxes and to make sure representation is included and inclusive they are what we call industry plants put there just to fill in the void but the true passionate devs are no longer there they moved on to making exodus a new sci fi action rpg and from what im told thats were the bulk of bioware's old staff moved too
Я обожаю стереотипную, оскорбительную инклюзивность в этой игре. Это удивительно в 2024 году презентовать персонажа азиата, который любит учиться, гипер-активен, с гиперфиксацией на перфекционизме из-за семейных обстоятельств. О, а еще этот типичный азиатский пучок, лол.
Нужно ли говорить спасибо, что у Беллары хотя бы нет рисовой шляпы? Или строгих родителей?
У других персонажей черты личности тоже набор клише. Их так пытались сделать близкими к определенным категориям людей, что забыли о том, что они должны быть в первую очередь живыми персонами, которых не определяет лишь одна черта.
Я бы выделила только Эммирика. Он действительно был интересен и дарил мне настоящие эмоции во время прохождения.
When you realize that Mordin Solus, Solas, and Taash all were done by the same writer...wild. Absolutely wild.
Best review I've seen in a while. Very fair, and gracefully honest in the face of the massive shitstorm this game has generated.
Comparing this game to Mass Effect 2 should be considered a hate crime. On the one hand you have some of the most likeable characters ever in Mass Effect compared to some of the most unlikable, boring and outright hateful characters in "Dragon Age" the Veilguard. And I am sorry but I have to disagree with you on character design. It was mediocre to horrible depending on the character. Combat was "meh" for an action rpg and shit for a Dragon Age game.
And this is where I get to the crux of it. Even as a standalone title this game would have scored a maximum of 6/10 considering the boring combat, bad character design, cringe dialogue and lackluster story but as a Dragon Age game this is a 4/10 and that is being generous. PS: Also, let's be honest this is not the same Bioware we grew up with. They are long gone.
I wish that Bioware was still around. F
You are rating it far too high.... A 5 is average. This game is a solid 4 prior to considering the characters... and the writing.
Once you include the preaching and "modern era" self inserts.... it is a 0.5/10
Its only playable to get footage to shiet on
Being compared to ME2 is what started them ruining the series with DA2. DA was created as a CRPG series and should never have been under pressure to be like ME2 which was in a different subgenre.
The combat is honestly bad , it's simple , way too simple , it's slow , way too slow , and in harder difficulties even slower , and no changes beside the enemies health bars being bloated to hell.
Then there is the equipment problem , which is way too bland , no changes at all except the bigger number.
Companions are useless punching bags and more importantly , extremely bland and annoying.
The moment I realized that companions cannot die in combat I let out a sigh of disappointment. No challenge at all. No risk. Nothing.
Fellow latino man here, can confirm, we're culturally conditioned to roll our eyes at representation and cultural appropriation. Tenemos dragon bol y todo lo demas, long as the story is cool and compelling, who gives a shit.
Así es loco jajaja, de dónde eres compa?
Congratulations Brother! You're a normal, healthy human being 💪
13:20 Most annoying character survived.. Whaat 😑 Not annoying cause of his Non-BuyNary talks, but in general & em lips aargh ugh 😒 Pixar Age Trashguard available via EA Pro Sub & that's el nice for those who wanna trash mental health. No need to pay more than that seventeen bucks 👌
"I wish that I could say you would die alone, but it's ONE OF GODS BIGGEST JOKES THAT YOU CAN'T DIE! EXCEPT IT'S ON ALL OF US!"
25 hours to beat a Dragon Age game is ridiculous. 25 hours of Veilguard is torture.
oooh, thanks for mentioning metaphor refantazio!! I'm really hankering for an actually fun rpg right now -- I'd been pinning a lot of my hopes on veilguard and was so let down...
After playing the game can you say that it deserves the name Dragon Age? Does it respect the series?
Not at all. This is as offensive as metal gear survive was to the Metal Gear series.
dragon age: origins was peak deagon age. when they decided to do an over arching story like mass effect, they killed it. thanks EA
Excuses and shilling.
In regards to blaming Elden ring. Imagine going to a 5 star restaurant (and paying 5 star prices) for a 3-4 star dining experience
Imagine then blaming chef Ramsay’s restaurant for setting the bar too high instead of the actual ppl in charge of your mediocre dining experience you were given.
I don't, nor have I EVER bought a Dragon Age game based on the combat, and that's like... the "best" aspect of Veilguard.
Who green lighted these developers to make a game that pushes their own ideology's and philosophies, especially related to gender, down gamers throats? It's ridiculous that this project even got funded. Whoever is in charge needs to seriously re-evaluate their business model. Also, the writing is terrible on a level that a child could do better...
Ubisoft really needed a win, im all for it! Good on you!
At the end of the game if you do everyting wrong you can get the happy ending when all your companions die, including Tash.
They hid the best one so well 🤣
When you focus on the intendity of the character instead of just writing the character as a person, you create a token and the whole message of inclusivity ends up being holier than thou preaching that nobody will ever get behind.
Anoyone that says Dragon Age Veilguard is good are grifters.
totally agree. this game is such a huge dissapointing - but they freaking nailed the solas story arc. but its still very sad to we're this game took the dragon age universe. -.-
You should play Planescape Torment 1, since it also had a similar end mission as ME2. But th plot was way more complicatted and emotional.
Oh snap I never played that! I'll have to check it out!
12:00 Anybody else notice and or was expecting not to see Jacob when he was talking about good companions in Me2