How GOOD was Goodra ACTUALLY? - History of Goodra in Competitive Pokemon

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024
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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming  Рік тому +63

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    • @danka1167
      @danka1167 Рік тому +1

      The goat❔❔

    • @emotrashgarbage2276
      @emotrashgarbage2276 Рік тому

      Yaaas

    • @runner6224
      @runner6224 Рік тому

      How good was Bronzong actually?

    • @skombiejones4388
      @skombiejones4388 Рік тому

      I fucking love Galaga!

    • @crcoghill
      @crcoghill Рік тому

      Is it wrong to say I like Hisuian form more? Something about it having the shell fully completes its origins and references. That and it kind of gets cuter with the relaxed eyes.

  • @dragneel3458
    @dragneel3458 Рік тому +1919

    Biggest violation of all time was not giving OG Goodra a secondary typing. Imagine Dragon/Water or Dragon/Poison on Goodra. Also Goodra being the only defensively oriented pseudo-legendary Pokemon but not getting Recover is just disrespectful.

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 Рік тому +254

      Imagine how good it would be with Poison Heal and Recover 😍

    • @saiyanscaris6530
      @saiyanscaris6530 Рік тому +103

      it has life dew. its something. also most recovery moves have 8 pp max now

    • @punkysnarks
      @punkysnarks Рік тому +14

      ​@@saiyanscaris6530And that's nothing some PP ups can't fix.

    • @saiyanscaris6530
      @saiyanscaris6530 Рік тому +175

      @@punkysnarks no i mean even with pp ups the max they will go up to is 8. one of the nerfs that gen 9 has

    • @baconsir1159
      @baconsir1159 Рік тому +72

      It’s 8 after the PP ups, so it *is* something they can’t fix

  • @lvl5Vaporeon
    @lvl5Vaporeon Рік тому +1005

    The fact that this pokemon gets so sad when lonely makes me heart melt.

    • @bluebaron6811
      @bluebaron6811 Рік тому +32

      Extroverts have their problems too. 😔

    • @jul1us787
      @jul1us787 Рік тому +87

      "Makes me heart melt" Pirate energy

    • @StrawHatAura
      @StrawHatAura Рік тому +21

      @@jul1us787 THE KING OF THE PIRATES LEFT THIS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THE WORLD HAD TO OFFER

    • @thatman666
      @thatman666 Рік тому +5

      But once it hugs you, it won’t let you go.

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling Рік тому +5

      @@jul1us787 I got Mr. Krabs energy

  • @nicholasdennis8092
    @nicholasdennis8092 Рік тому +865

    Hisuian Goodra seems to be everything Goodra wanted to be. It’s been so much fun in singles OU and was even a Regieleki counter while that was in the tier

    • @Caspercab
      @Caspercab Рік тому +66

      Although seems like the signature move sucks which is really unfortunate because goodra is my favorite hisuian mon

    • @AZV0108
      @AZV0108 Рік тому +40

      And also loses Hydration to be replaced with Shell Armor, so you can't spam Rest on rain

    • @lucarilla5901
      @lucarilla5901 Рік тому +77

      @@Caspercab the signature move is Acid Armor but with less PP lmao

    • @nicholasdennis8092
      @nicholasdennis8092 Рік тому +63

      @@AZV0108 it literally gets two other moves that do the exact same thing with more pp. I don’t know what gamefreak was cooking with Shelter

    • @Firescizor
      @Firescizor Рік тому +45

      @@nicholasdennis8092 I imagine a world where Goodra is the defensive Magearna: Shelter raising Def to +2 and Sp. Def to +1, Shell Armor stopping critical hits, Body Press and a STAB for damage, and then, Rest...
      It would be so good 😩

  • @BlackArche0ps
    @BlackArche0ps Рік тому +671

    Goodra not being a poison type is the weirdest thing ever. Especially being introduced in the same gen as the fairy type

    • @TheBT
      @TheBT Рік тому +101

      I wonder if that was purely because Dragalge was introduced the same gen. As there were just the 4 non legendary lines of Dragon in the generation that introduced Fairy to combat dragons maybe they didn't want half of them to counter fairy types.

    • @jpmedina8328
      @jpmedina8328 Рік тому +98

      It doesnt look poisonous tbh, but it sure should have been an water type.

    • @music79075
      @music79075 Рік тому +13

      ​​​@@jpmedina8328or even bug or fairy alongside dragon

    • @TrixterTheFemboy
      @TrixterTheFemboy Рік тому +47

      I've always thought it should be Fairy/Dragon. Especially considering it's the psuedolegend of the gen that added Fairy.

    • @squibbles_
      @squibbles_ Рік тому +57

      Dragon-Water would've been perfect imo. It makes sap sipper more useful by negating one of water's only two weaknesses, is just generally a good typing for a bulky mon like Goodra, and fits with Goodra's connection to water in its inspiration and evolution method

  • @char1194
    @char1194 Рік тому +361

    The whole goodra line is perfectly friend shaped and I love them

  • @vassilist9557
    @vassilist9557 Рік тому +441

    If Sap Sipper raised the higher attacking stat, it would have been a great ability.

    • @finaldusk1821
      @finaldusk1821 Рік тому +83

      In fairness, Goodra's physical attack is only 10 points lower than its special attack, a big deal in competitive play but far from unusable.
      I would not want my team taking boosted physical attacks off that stat, nor do I enjoy having to guess if a Goodra is running a physical, special, or mixed attacking set with its impressive coverage.

    • @IgnitedQuils
      @IgnitedQuils Рік тому +48

      I mean base 100 attack while isn’t ground breaking, isn’t bad and it has many coverage options. Plus it got Dragon Claw now so it doesn’t have to be locked into Outrage. Plus it has many coverage options such as Fire Punch, Rock Slide, Thunder Punch, and what Skeetermania said.

    • @baconsir1159
      @baconsir1159 Рік тому +11

      It’s a great ability as is tbh. Even if it was just the immunity it’d still be good.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +10

      @@IgnitedQuils Also Earthquake and Power Whip.

    • @gio9255
      @gio9255 Рік тому +18

      Sap Sipper is great overall. Goodra can come in on either grass types using nuclear leaf storms, solar beams, leaf blades, leech seed, and sleep powder and instantly gain momentum for its team.

  • @ben6357
    @ben6357 Рік тому +352

    Goodra is definitely a top 3 favorite Pokémon for me

  • @Wolfdawg504
    @Wolfdawg504 Рік тому +116

    The Hissuian variant is already putting in solid work for me as a defensive tank. The thing is super hard to take out and actually provides good team support with Dragon Tail preventing opponent set ups.

    • @horodoomwolf
      @horodoomwolf Рік тому +3

      If it had reliable recovery, it would be sent to Ubers, it can be a crazy good wall with well invested EVs

    • @shamblestheclown
      @shamblestheclown Рік тому +11

      hisuian goodra was needed, tbh all of the hisui forms are shaking up the SV meta pretty well

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      @@horodoomwolf Surely you’re overrating it?

    • @ctoooc
      @ctoooc Рік тому

      Sacred Sword Hamurott always ends up ohkoing it

    • @silver_was_found
      @silver_was_found Рік тому

      I remember some guy stalling me out with Curse and LIFE DEW of all things for recovery :p

  • @smackjack78
    @smackjack78 Рік тому +81

    Goodra is a personal favorite of mine (it’s my 2nd favorite Pokémon). It has the perfect combo of cool and cute. It’s such a likable Pokémon, idk how someone can dislike it. It’s a fan-favorite that’s not on the same level as something like your typical hyped up mons. I use it a lot on my teams, despite the notion of how underpowered it can be. Yet, it’s always put in work for me (whether life orb hydration or assault vest gooey), so I can’t be disappointed. And now the Goodra-H is out, there’s no stopping my love for this mon

  • @tobiasgund8048
    @tobiasgund8048 Рік тому +252

    I would love if one of its abilities became Poison Heal

    • @music79075
      @music79075 Рік тому +18

      That would be absolutely HUGE.
      Or maybe Multiscale.

    • @music79075
      @music79075 Рік тому +8

      Or even Rain Dish.

    • @heaven64
      @heaven64 Рік тому +13

      @@music79075 This thing has no scale

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +2

      @@heaven64 Do slugs have scales?

    • @starcrusher7304
      @starcrusher7304 Рік тому +3

      A lot of rom hacks have that for goodra, like Inclement Emerald

  • @GamingG4276
    @GamingG4276 Рік тому +21

    I've been waiting for this day so I can do this.
    Ah, Goodra.
    A dragon that's very specially bulky.
    And according to the anime it's nice and loves to hug.
    And, and..... It's body oozes GREEN SLIME!?

  • @gitodachoppa1198
    @gitodachoppa1198 Рік тому +25

    I love goodra. It’s probably the most friend shaped Pokémon I’ve ever seen, and that’s all I need

    • @gitodachoppa1198
      @gitodachoppa1198 Рік тому +1

      Also goodra in the anime looks kinda like chika fujiwara from love is war

    • @gitodachoppa1198
      @gitodachoppa1198 Рік тому +1

      It’s also very nice that my favorite Pokémon got a How GOOD was it anyways video today, so very nice

    • @ThatoneLlama
      @ThatoneLlama Рік тому +1

      The most friend shaped is Clodsire

    • @gitodachoppa1198
      @gitodachoppa1198 Рік тому

      @@ThatoneLlama id say clodsire is more "mascot friend" shaped than goodra, but goodra is way more "fun friend" shaped. so perhaps both goodra and clodsire are the most friend shaped pokemon

  • @adolfojuangarcia1906
    @adolfojuangarcia1906 Рік тому +24

    The only mono-type pseudo-legend. It was the perfect opportunity to make the first dragon-fairy. water and poison would also work.

  • @SkorBn
    @SkorBn Рік тому +53

    I wish Goodra could've been dragon/fairy (or poison), it's a giant cute dragon- but then it probably would've had more spotlight than Xerneas

  • @squidwardsfiasco1372
    @squidwardsfiasco1372 Рік тому +38

    Ngl goodra should have either had a secondary water type or poison type

    • @IgnitedQuils
      @IgnitedQuils Рік тому +6

      Either it being part Water or Dragon would have let it stood out defensively, instead of the decent mono Dragon type. Plus Poison/Dragon STAB is nearly unresisted which it can hit Steels with super effective coverage options.

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling Рік тому +4

      Dragon/Poison makes sense seeing how it’s a slug dragon

    • @TheBT
      @TheBT Рік тому +2

      Deffo, and honestly poison makes more sense to me. At least it's not like a certain youtuber who got annoyed because they were told why bug type makes no sense because gamefreak has been remarkably consistent in sticking to the colloquial broad definition of what is a bug (terrestrial arthropods)
      Weirdly, the exception to this is the dwebble line ('cause crabs) and arguably shelmet though given accelgor is a bagworm it's classification might be a result of that.

    • @Lord_KillerBee
      @Lord_KillerBee 6 місяців тому

      Being part poison type would promote how the new fairy types are weak to poison types and would make Goodra stand out a bit more amongst the other pseudo legendary Pokémon. But suppose Goodra’s Hisuian form does partially make up for how Goodra is the only pure pseudo legendary Pokémon and gave Goodra an edge against fairy types.

  • @danieleoliva7371
    @danieleoliva7371 Рік тому +30

    It is strange that it didn't talk about the combination of Goodra and Comfey in VGC during the period of the 8th Generation. That combo was actually good.

  • @farahkhan2654
    @farahkhan2654 Рік тому +33

    Ive been waiting a long time for this one. Goodra is criminally underated

  • @IgnitedQuils
    @IgnitedQuils Рік тому +46

    I’m glad it got a regional variant due to the coveted Steel/Dragon type that’s not a legendary. We have Duraludon but it has bad special bulk and it’s not as versatile in terms of coverage, aside from maybe ID + BP and can set up Stealth Rock.

  • @ellyjockey6164
    @ellyjockey6164 Рік тому +46

    I've always wondered why Goomy and its evolutions aren't poison-type, given it's an ooze.
    It's still very cute, though.

    • @animejerk05
      @animejerk05 Рік тому +6

      there was already a dragon poison introduced in the same game freak doesn't like repeats anymore

    • @manicyume
      @manicyume Рік тому +8

      so many electric/fighting types in gen 9

    • @Hachishaku-Sama
      @Hachishaku-Sama Рік тому +4

      I think the ooze on it isn’t supposed to be poisonous, it’s more like mucus.

    • @HazeEmry
      @HazeEmry Рік тому +2

      ​@@Hachishaku-Samawater then

    • @Hachishaku-Sama
      @Hachishaku-Sama Рік тому

      @@HazeEmry yeah, that would've made more sense, i'm on the same boat

  • @thepunisher6674
    @thepunisher6674 Рік тому +27

    One of the weirdest pseudo legendaries glad it finally got a buff with the Hisui form

  • @alolanvulpix2848
    @alolanvulpix2848 Рік тому +61

    Arguably one of the cutest pseudo legendaries out there!!!

    • @cadetjones9205
      @cadetjones9205 Рік тому +23

      Arguably?! What argument? It's the cutest by far!😍

    • @XParasiteOctoling
      @XParasiteOctoling Рік тому +18

      You mean to tell me Garchomp isn’t cute?

    • @shyguyfan
      @shyguyfan Рік тому +9

      ​@@cadetjones9205nah you're wrong have you seen hydreigon

    • @cadetjones9205
      @cadetjones9205 Рік тому +5

      ​@@XParasiteOctoling Tell Cynthia's Garchomp to stop clawing at my face and I could consider

    • @ManyTanks1
      @ManyTanks1 Рік тому +5

      The bar is in hell considering every other pseudo looks beastly

  • @sephikong8323
    @sephikong8323 Рік тому +5

    0:52 And this did not age well because, for context for future viewers, Hisuian Goodra was released BETWEEN this video being recorded and uploaded.
    Unfortunate timing indeed (but exquisite for the video itself)

  • @hamiltonhaugh3982
    @hamiltonhaugh3982 Рік тому +29

    I love goodra. It looks so happy and friendly. Its also a good tank

  • @msjsr9364
    @msjsr9364 Рік тому +9

    I'm surprised Hydration didn't get a mention; during gen 7, I used to run Hydration Goodra with Rest alongside Pelipper, where it handled Grass and Electric threats while solving its regen issues pretty well.

    • @eyemaknut
      @eyemaknut Рік тому +2

      I did a very similar thing, and I also used a special attacking Dragonite on my rain team

  • @briangruenewald7536
    @briangruenewald7536 Рік тому +6

    My favorite Dragon type! I loved running this Goodra set in Showdown:
    Nature: Bold (252+ HP, 252+ Def, 4+ SpD)
    Ability: Gooey
    Item: Leftovers
    Moves: Acid Armor, Infestation, Toxic, Rest

  • @Everlarke
    @Everlarke Рік тому +13

    My favorite Dragon-type ever! I've used on in all my playthroughs since it's introduction (Kalos, Alola, Galar, Hisui, & Paldea). Here's hoping Hisuian Goodra can do well in upcoming VGC Regulation.

  • @SweaterPuppys
    @SweaterPuppys Рік тому +8

    I absolutely love the dopey cartoon dragons like Dragonite, Goodra and Drampa. What absolutely cracked designs thank you gamefreak just make them usable

  • @eddiesigler9761
    @eddiesigler9761 Рік тому +32

    One of my favorite pseudo legendaries ❤

    • @sleestacks
      @sleestacks Рік тому +4

      I have bad news for you bud

  • @jecht0sama
    @jecht0sama Рік тому +3

    I've watched this channel for many years, and this is the first time you've showcased a Pokemon that was different than how I ran it during the generations. My Goodra was hydration, Damp Rock Bold, 252 Hp/Def EV's 4 Sp.Atk EV's knowing Rain Dance, Rest, Thunder, Muddy Water/Focus Blast. Was one of the most fun I've had with a tank. Very Rarely let me down in battles. i still love using it on non rain teams just as a weather disrupter or wall. Couldn't believe you guys said no recovery on this mon. but to be fair, I never once even considered using sap sipper lmao

  • @rainbowturtle
    @rainbowturtle Рік тому +8

    Hisiuan Goodra looks like it'll be incredibly good in VGC. It'll be doing what goodra normally would but better, with a better typing, better stat spread, and same good coverage.

  • @chaosgallade2331
    @chaosgallade2331 Рік тому +35

    Hisuian Goodra was already released to Scarlet/Violet before this video was put up. Kind of wish Goodra as a whole (regular and Hisuian) got better looks in the meta before this video came out, but Hisuian Goodra is better than regular Goodra at first glance because Steel/Dragon is a better defensive typing than mono Dragon.

    • @Klamzzzz
      @Klamzzzz Рік тому +6

      Must’ve recorded this mad earlier I guess

    • @MegaShepardsPie
      @MegaShepardsPie Рік тому +8

      Doubt it's been out long enough to really form an opinion on it. It probably hasn't seen enough usage yet.

    • @DemonRaticate
      @DemonRaticate Рік тому +2

      It mainly has never really been able to be played in a format that matters enough yet. It has seen play, but NatDex isn't really a good place to judge when fricking things like Mega Slowbro is in UU. HGoodra seems like a pretty nice buff to our friend shaped snail dragon, but with all the Grounds in the meta right now, I fear for its viability. Getting 2HKO'd even by a more defensive Great Tusk or standard Landorus-I is going to make it less viable. Still it had a good niche in blanking Regieleki, but Iron Treads had it beat since it had the possibility of outspeeding it.

  • @zb778
    @zb778 Рік тому +12

    And now for your regularly scheduled Goodra fact of the decade: Goodra is the only monotype pseudo legendary, despite the fact the in game lore dictates that it could be either poison or water type as well. Kind of a shame.

  • @CdalexE
    @CdalexE Рік тому +8

    I've been waiting for this video forever. It's my 2nd favorite pseudo legendary behind Dragonite.

  • @mauroperez2848
    @mauroperez2848 Рік тому +12

    Not only is it one of the cutest pseudo legendaries and dragon types, but one of the cutest pokemon period. I don't care if I ruin my clothes, I will shower the gooey boy with hugs and kisses.

  • @Setsunascarletstorm24
    @Setsunascarletstorm24 Рік тому +5

    Hisuian Goodra is different.
    It's slower, but now its bulk is much better on both sides, allowing it to tank hits better.

  • @NomicFin
    @NomicFin Рік тому +7

    Hopefully the Hisuian version will be better. Dragon/Steel is a very good typing and it has the coverage to deal with a lot of common threats while being very bulky on the specially defensive side and decently bulky in the physical side. The main downside is that if you want recovery you're stuck with Life Dew instead of Recover.

  • @ekkaj99
    @ekkaj99 Рік тому +2

    so many hisui pokemon getting released i think you should do a hisui vid special, a vid where every pokemon you've already covered that got a hisui form gets a segment

  • @telacrap
    @telacrap Рік тому +11

    I love Goodra. 150 special defence, respectable HP, ATK and SPA stats at 90, 100 and 110 make it a great special wall that can put out decent damage. Sap Sipper allows it to pair well with Swampert to get free switches on Kartana and Ferrothorn- that was my main usage in Gen 8. And seeing a Specs Moonblast from Tapu Lele deal only 30% is always nice. It’s a shame that Goodra gets outclassed by other special walls that have reliable recovery, and outclassed by other, faster attackers.

  • @RockOrso2
    @RockOrso2 Рік тому +3

    Looking forward to it eventually getting updated accounting for Hisuian Goodra since Scarlet & Violet have formally introduced it via Home support OR you prepped a Goomy and used Home to evolve it in your PLA save file.

  • @gio9255
    @gio9255 Рік тому +3

    Goodra is one of my favorite dragons. Based on it's stats, one can tell that GameFreak were trying to make Goodra the next Blissey. It also has a lot of design similarities to Dragonite and Meganium too. Much like Meganium, Goodra got a raw deal when it was introduced. With so many powerful offensive dragons in Gen VI like Mega Zard X, Mega Sceptile, Mega Salamence, and Mega Latios/Latias, it's impact on the meta was negligible. It was a solid tank that could go physical or special but had nothing beyond that. It had no utility nor reliable recovery. It's Hisuian form was introduced recently with a far better stat distribution, incredible defensive typing, and terastalization potential to be a truly great tank. H-Goodra still shares base Goodra's lack of utility and recovery but is in a far better position and is viable overall. If H-Goodra ever got Recover, Hazards, and Defog, it would be a truly excellent Dragon.

  • @BananaReidy
    @BananaReidy Рік тому +8

    Goodra may not hit hard compared to other dragons but dont over look it, with rain hydration rest you can healing for days.

  • @bluebaron6811
    @bluebaron6811 Рік тому +16

    What I think is dumb is that it gets Absorb, but not Giga Drain.

    • @Castersvarog
      @Castersvarog Рік тому +5

      Man Giga drain would have been great on it

  • @Giratina575
    @Giratina575 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely loving these videos. Wish i knew the music at 9:13. Anyways keep killing it FSG. Hope to see heatran or tsareena

  • @deoxsus6972
    @deoxsus6972 Рік тому +2

    Crazy that you uploaded this. I just revisited X and Y after ten years, got a shiny, modest Goodra. It's been a star on my team, but even using it, you can tell that it isn't as great as the pseudos that came before

  • @cinnasauria
    @cinnasauria Рік тому +1

    Hydration Goodra with Rest was on my most successful gen 6 team and it still worked in gen 7 when Pelipper got Drizzle. It made Goodra pretty hard to kill and it wasn't all that uncommon to see, so I'm a little surprised it wasn't mentioned here.

  • @MGlBlaze
    @MGlBlaze Рік тому +1

    My favorite pokemon! One of the cutest dragon types. I fell in love with it thanks to pokemon-amie; it remains energetic and bouncy when fully evolved, while other fully evolved pokemon start to get all serious and understated in their movements.

  • @AacroX
    @AacroX Рік тому +2

    My brother in Arceus, couldn't you wait a few months to include Hisuian Goodra performance???

  • @andystephon871
    @andystephon871 Рік тому +1

    I havent even watched and this is already the best video u ever made LOOK AT GOODRA LOOK AT MY DARLING I LOVE HIM

  • @grim_blazer9120
    @grim_blazer9120 Рік тому +7

    Imagine regenerator goodra in standard play, that thing would be great

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +2

      Even Recover would be nice. Why it doesn’t learn that is beyond me.

  • @jonathannushi9183
    @jonathannushi9183 Рік тому +5

    If goodra got regenerator specs would’ve been such a fun set but that might’ve been a little too much given its bulk

  • @Aburner960
    @Aburner960 Рік тому +8

    Its time for the mascot how good was aegislash actually?

  • @midi5467
    @midi5467 Рік тому +5

    Maybe the Patrons should have waited a bit so we could analyze H-Goodra's performance in gen 9

  • @Zorroark
    @Zorroark Рік тому +1

    My favourite Pokemon finally gets the spotlight on FSG!
    I'm not really a competitive player but I've been watching your videos since the original Blastoise video, I always wondered how Goodra did competitively, it was the first pokemon I tried breeding perfect IVs for back in X/Y and while I did get a 5IV modest Goodra I didn't really know what moves or item to put on it so I just picked 4 strong special attacks, slapped a Leftovers on it and took it to the Battle Maison along with 2 other pokemon. I always wanted to try playing competitive doubles but I mainly want to use Goodra and hearing that it's only "just fine" and not as good as other pokemon kinda demotivates me from trying.
    I feel like a good buff to give Goodra would be giving it a real recovery move that isn't Life Dew, it's a goopy slug boi it looks like it should learn something like Recover. I don't know how overpowered it might be as a wall but I feel the overall nerf to recovery moves in Gen 9 wouldn't make it too broken as a wall since it doesn't resist many physically oriented types like Fighting or Ground as well as it's mediocre physical bulk.

  • @anilbalram7768
    @anilbalram7768 Рік тому

    I appreciate that they can talk and see the other side. It helps with me trying to explore what I could do.

  • @Tungdil_01
    @Tungdil_01 Рік тому +9

    Goodra is very rounded, harmonious, and feminine. It's the opposite of Garchomp which is very tough looking.

    • @horodoomwolf
      @horodoomwolf Рік тому +3

      While both are defensive and offensive powerhouses, respectively

    • @Watermage2
      @Watermage2 Рік тому +3

      Fair warning, don’t go around calling Goodra feminine. There’s some…bad history in the Pokemon fandom associated with that.

    • @PhoenixAce
      @PhoenixAce Рік тому +2

      I don’t see how it’s feiminine

    • @shiawase8694
      @shiawase8694 Рік тому

      @@PhoenixAce pear shaped and big thighs, friendly face, pinkish color, I'd say those are more associated with femininity

    • @PhoenixAce
      @PhoenixAce Рік тому

      @@shiawase8694 that just sounds obese bruh

  • @TheSgtslow
    @TheSgtslow Рік тому +52

    Honestly I like that Game Freak tried something different with Goodra instead of making another Big Scary Powerful Attacker.
    Edit: If other people don't like Goodra that's fine, I'm not a competitive player so I can't really judge it on a competitive stand point. I honestly just like it when Game Freak tries to experiment.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому +12

      @Shoreline Fishing I don’t know why it doesn’t even get Recover. Slugs can self-regenerate, after all.

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella Рік тому +13

      The problem with Goodra is that its ANOTHER Tank that lacks recovery. If this thing had Regenerator, Slowking would kneel. Gamefreak is way too poor when it comes to designing defensive pokemon.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      @@butteredsalmonella Why is that so important as to be overrated, especially since they now have less PP?

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 Рік тому

      @@butteredsalmonella Although poor doesn’t seem fair to say when balancing around a format they themselves don’t run.

    • @TheSgtslow
      @TheSgtslow Рік тому

      @Shoreline Fishing Honestly I think that's what Hisuian Goodra is for. Honestly I just committed game freak for trying out something different.

  • @oracle5865
    @oracle5865 Рік тому +1

    I love watching these videos and know the votes go towards patrons, however I would love to see a Heatran video, since ive yet to see someone talk about it in depth

  • @saltyjordy
    @saltyjordy Рік тому +1

    I feel like this video is going to be HEAVILY recommended for a redo as soon as this next meta runs in. Hisuian Goodra looks TOO good!

  • @Gloomy414
    @Gloomy414 Рік тому +1

    so glad to see my favourite pokemon get it's video :)

  • @togakhan1274
    @togakhan1274 Рік тому +3

    Goodra is a Pokemon that just suffers from having a kit that does not work together. It's stats are defensively leaning but he lacks any utility moves for a wall like hazards, knock off, status, recovery etc. His movepool is offensively leaning but it's held back by his average attacking stats and speed and mono Dragon typing not giving it secondary stab.
    Using Goodra feels like it has an identify crisis. It tries to be an offensive/defensive mon but it struggles to do either let alone both. It's trying to be a very average generalist lacking tools that work well together in a game where you have 6 slots and can easily run specialists.

  • @anurbanskier
    @anurbanskier Рік тому +3

    I was hoping the VGC 2020 Series 6 Goodra Lapras and Comfey core would be discussed. That trio was sooo tanky and at the top of the meta even if it was only for one summer. Yeah Series 6 wasn’t the format for any tournaments, but still a time for Goodra to shine in gen 8 VGC.

  • @brandontherabboat4850
    @brandontherabboat4850 Рік тому +2

    I just love a Pokémon who’s both adorable and could handily kick your ass.

  • @kadabraguy9846
    @kadabraguy9846 Рік тому +2

    Ngl it feels like this episode should have waited a few weeks so it could include Goodra-H. Ik this was the patron pick but maybe they should have picked it later lol

  • @illegalalien6542
    @illegalalien6542 Рік тому +11

    I could care less how good Goodra was competitively, It's still one of my favorite pokemon of all time period!!

  • @johnnyestes980
    @johnnyestes980 Рік тому +2

    Giving goodra regenerator would totally make sense to me and make it a reliable pivot

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL Рік тому

      Recover too

    • @johnnyestes980
      @johnnyestes980 Рік тому

      @Jigglypuff for sure! Getting into more broken realms you could swap its att and hp stats or att and def so it still has 600 total but more usable for its role

  • @SilverAlex92
    @SilverAlex92 Рік тому +1

    So Im pretty sure I heard you say "its inspiration its a mythical surfer from french folkrore" and even tho I know its not what you say, now Im in love with the idea of a mythical surfer folklre in France

  • @baseballs1742
    @baseballs1742 Рік тому

    There was a format in gen 8 vgc where the top ten most used mons were banned and Goodra briefly became top tier. People used it with sap sipper + giga drain Comfey and swept whole teams after dynamaxing.

  • @Dynamic256-ORIGINAL
    @Dynamic256-ORIGINAL Рік тому +2

    Hisuian Goodra was the much needed buff for our boi Goodra

  • @seasonedethanandfriends4247
    @seasonedethanandfriends4247 Рік тому +3

    Idk why y'all would make a goodra vid and not wait until you could anaylze it's new form.

  • @vla1ne
    @vla1ne Рік тому +1

    Goodras' core weakness (in singles) is the inability to recover damage. Goodra can tank more neutral damage than practically any other pseudo, but since he cant't heal on demand, his role as a tank is simply not as stable in singles.
    Overall though, easily one of my favorite pseudos, even if it isn't busted.

  • @irajkhamsi8892
    @irajkhamsi8892 Рік тому +1

    Hisuian Goodra is available in Scarlet and Violet as of 3 ish days ago actually. Probably too late for the editing of the video. Hope there is some ad-lib at the end referencing it

  • @alexbalgar8369
    @alexbalgar8369 Рік тому +1

    Wish the patreons could have waited a bit for the video to add whatever his hisuian counterpart does now in-game.

  • @ElectroBlastLuigi
    @ElectroBlastLuigi Рік тому +1

    Should've waited longer because of Hisuian pokemon. These forms are actually really good in the competitive scene.

  • @michaelbevan1081
    @michaelbevan1081 Рік тому +1

    One of my top favourites

  • @shoodychakras820
    @shoodychakras820 Рік тому +1

    Sap sipper goodra with a petal blizzard partner is fun in doubles as it gets rock slide and eq. Been using meowscarada but before then had a venusaur.

  • @averycousins512
    @averycousins512 Рік тому +1

    I've been waiting for this one🥰

  • @Jzwiz
    @Jzwiz Рік тому +1

    my fav dragon along with giratina. its so adorable

  • @ujjwalsinha3811
    @ujjwalsinha3811 Рік тому +1

    i am actually first !! goodra was always really weird as what to do with it like offenively it wasnt really that strong despite of having insane coverage and defensively looked insane but in theory was frail on physdef side and lacked recovery . would have been much better with an extra typing and reliable recovery

  • @henry5274
    @henry5274 Рік тому +1

    now that hisuian goodra us legal, I wish this video waited till after worlds since it might have some fun placements there

  • @chernoboglordofdarkness5703

    Ngl this is kinda funny timing wise. Goodra is my fave Pokémon and the vid was published today which is my birthday!

  • @randomblackguy5118
    @randomblackguy5118 Рік тому +1

    Tbh all goodra would need is acid armor and recover, (two moves that already fit into it's theme) and it would probably be the best pseudo-legendary ever

  • @godyusopp
    @godyusopp Рік тому +3

    think you should've waited a month or two so you can speak about hisui goodra

  • @DukeSR8
    @DukeSR8 Рік тому +1

    0:53 Kellen made an oopsie, H-Goodra is available in SV.

  • @ChaddyFantome
    @ChaddyFantome Рік тому +2

    7:20 dem alliterations 😊

  • @Saviarai-Dravolika
    @Saviarai-Dravolika Рік тому

    I have an idea for the next "theorem" vid: the Chansey/dusclops theorem: where you don't really need to be fully evolved in order to be a great mon, like mons with eviolite, middle stage mons with actual niches in the lower tiers like golbat, etc

  • @saiyanscaris6530
    @saiyanscaris6530 Рік тому +1

    might be a bit early on this one since hisuian goodra got released into sv from home a few days ago

  • @1233arceus
    @1233arceus Рік тому

    I’ve been in love with Goodra since it was introduced 😂 I love how derpy it looks

  • @justinmedeiros7600
    @justinmedeiros7600 Рік тому +1

    I know we won’t be getting one for a while still, but the first gen 8 Pokémon that’s on this channel has to be dragapult, the goat

  • @Wrulfy
    @Wrulfy Рік тому

    You can see how the script was written some time ago because it mentions "not being released yet" regarding the hisuian form instead of "coming pretty soon" or "came right now"

  • @Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman
    @Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman Рік тому +1

    Kinda nuts that something with a solid movepool, great stats, decent ability, and good typing could be down in RU

  • @nolongeraperson
    @nolongeraperson Рік тому +3

    "Hasn't been released in the main line games at the time of this video." Wrong!

  • @takoctruc
    @takoctruc Рік тому +1

    The fact that he learn alot of water type attack and that he litteraly love rain so much that he can heal from it and still doesn't have the water type is criminal

  • @JTruong3rd
    @JTruong3rd Рік тому +1

    Turns out hisuian goodra is terrifying when it sets up for body press.

  • @eduardoleocadio2678
    @eduardoleocadio2678 Рік тому

    Man, part of me loves that Goodra is a very cool pure dragon, I also kinda wish that Goodra was also part water or part poison too. Might have helped him a lot competitvely

  • @juanhaines7295
    @juanhaines7295 Рік тому

    I've been waiting for goodras video.

  • @enklaev1933
    @enklaev1933 Рік тому +2

    I ran a physical max spd def assault vest goodra eith sap sipper it was amazing in gen 8

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 Рік тому +2

    You’d think Sliggoo needing to evolve in the rain would make sense for Goodra to be a Dragon/Water type when it evolved.
    But I guess this is just another nonsensical decision on GF’s part.

  • @dariomerisio24
    @dariomerisio24 Рік тому +1

    Goodra Dragon/Poison still is my dream

  • @Nikkidafox
    @Nikkidafox Рік тому +2

    Ah yes Goodra. The slime feti- I mean dragon pokemon.