Why Do We Say "Latino"?
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The first thing to pop into your mind when you hear "Latino" is probably people from Latin America - places like Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, etc. But where exactly did the history of that word come from, and has it always meant Central America and South America as well as the Caribbean? Today Danielle traces the origin of the term "Latino" and the debates that still surround it as well as the term "Hispanic" and "Latinx."
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What’s really annoying is when people refer to all Latinos as Mexicans.
VISPRES equally annoying is when people refer to Mexicans as all Latinos .
Yes, Specially African Americans 🤣🤣 But I'm not mad at them. The American education system is designed to keep people ignorant of the truths about the continent.
@@comva So let's educate each other believe me African Americans feel the same way
@* ? What are you saying?
@* Hispanic or Latino: Under these definitions a Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Guatemalan, etcetera for example, is considered both as Hispanic and Latino. So by the definition alone it's not technically wrong if a Mexican or anyone in between Mexico, Central America and South America is called Latino or Hispanic.
Latinx is an American (USA) invention. No one in Spain or Latin America uses that term. The word, Latino, itself is all encompassing.
100% latin and latino means literally the same and they had to come out with Latinx, and probably don't even speak latin languages
She said the word Latinx is despised by some. They did a poll in 2019 and found that 98% Latinos that took the poll did not want to be identified as Latinx. That’s not some, that’s almost all. It’s an awful term and disrespects our language.
@@mypenhispurpose couldn't agree more 👏
Es super ridículo alto cringe
@keepitmoving I don't think americans were the ones who came up with such ridiculous word... if that was the case then they would also use "Americanx".. I think the ones who came up with such term were hispanics who live in the U.S.
5:50 what's ironic about this term is that, if they actually spoke spanish, they'd realise the more natural way to make it gender neutral would be the term "Latine", since there are plenty of gender neutral adjectives in spanish that end in "e" . For example, "inteligente".
thats actually what we favor here in brazil since we have no idea how to actaully pronounce "latinx", it clearly sounds ike it was made for english speaker and not us lol
@@MelissaBezerra And it also is unreadable to French speakers as well.
I'm American and I don't get it either...
Latine ftw!!! Viva latine!
The people that want to control the Spanish language don’t even know Spanish LOL
That's why us "latin" americans refer to ourselves by our country of origin, bruh
What refers to you is "Latin Americans" and not Latins. Latin only refers to Roman Latin Languages (Romance Language) and Roman Latin Culture. Language and culture. Nothing to do with your Skin Color. And you can only use Latin ONLY when identifying your culture if you believe that you have a "Roman Latin Culture" because that's all what Latino/Latino/Latina means. By the way in English saying Latino/Latina is also grammatically incorrect-correct English is LATIN, masculine and feminine. Latin cannot be used like you do for "Personal Identification". Totally wrong. For personal identification you must use your RACE or Country of Origin: Mexican, Cuban...or Just "Latin American/s" like we all do. Comprendes???
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LATIN UNION
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_Union
This Renato guy is here too!!! 😆
In California we are just Chicanos if we want to get deep into classifying, might as well call Mexico Haplogroup-Q American. Latino is too vague and general and only represnts a minority population. It would be like lumping British, French,Italians and Slavs into Caucasian and calling them Germanic while disregarding the Celt, Mediteranian and Slavic influence.
I prefer Boricua or Borincano instead of Puerto Rican.
Puerto Rico means rich port. To describe the island.
Originally Puerto Rico was Borinque'n or Borike'n
Which the indigenous taino people named the island. Meaning Land of the Valiant Lord.
What's so great that every place has a beginning. And that's something we should not forget.
I'm retired, and learning something new of this island called originally
BORIKE'N
@@chibiromano5631 at the end of the day, they’re are white
I really don’t like this American obsession of classifying people by their race (even when trying not to be racist), but when it’s about geographical, social, historical and cultural purposes, that’s fine for me, as long as we understand that all of those interrelated disciplines are more complex that simply labeling people. For example, geographically, Mexico it’s part of North America (NOT CENTRAL!) , but culturally it’s Latin America, so it’s more than just one thing. Also, add up the fact that a lot of “Latinos” born in Latin America look like European, Asian or African people. Anyway, I’m just posting this because I’m a little tired of the American way of seeing races and other ethnicities like economic groups. The diversity of ethnicities is a wonderful thing and I believe it needs to be studied with a perspective of purely cultural richness and heritage, acknowledging the similarities between human groups but also understanding our differences, that’s our only way towards empathy and in the end, towards loving each other for what we are.
That's cause Latino isn't a race, the stereotypical image of a Latinx person is indigenous mixed with European
Hel OovaGüdDip he never said Latino was a race, all he said is that Americans are obsessed with the ides of race. It is just a social construct made to divide us and make white Europeans superior, that’s literally why race was invented.
Love your comment!
@@eb.3764 i wouldn't say that's the stereotypical image,because it depends on where your at inthe country
The idea of identifying a person by their race is a concept that in and of itself, is racist. Even when it's done without malicious intent.
I'm Haitian 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹.
We share an island with the Dominicans and speak French.
So geographically and linguistically, we could be considered latinos. But none of us think of ourselves as latinos and if you wanna confuse a Haitian, call him a Latino.
We identify more with Africa.
was just about to comment this 💯 in my head, Haitians are Latinos also 🤷♂️ would fit right into the afro-latino groups. but either way. great people and culture regardless 🙏
I was just about to post a question about whether or not Haitians are also considered to be Latinos.
I had a different understanding of this. I read that Napoleon was the one that introduced this “Latino” idea so his colonies (especially Haiti) will be included in the group that will be separated from the anglophones.
Ignorant people, think latino has to do with race, no is a ragion,cultures, in the american continent, language.Remember USA kidnapped the name(AMERICA)TOOK IT FOR THEMSELVES, THE WORD (AMERICAS)do not exist,AMERICA, IS ONLY ONE,WITH THE NORTH,CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA,UNITED STATES IS IN NORTH AMERICA,JUST LIKE CANADA AND MEXICO.THATS WHY USA DISIDED TO CALL US LATIN AMERICAN,IAM FROM CENTRAL AMERICA (THE CARIBEAN)DOMINICAN.THEY DO NOT TEACH THAT IN SCHOOL IN USA,HAS TO DO WITH, CONTROL,POWER AND DIVISION OF US THE "AMERICAS"IN THE CONTINENT.
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Why don't you just call us by country of origin? Like, if someone is from Brazil, call him Brazilian. If someone is from Argentina, call him Argentine. And so on...
The "latino" term is ridiculous!
Latino ISN'T a race!
Just stop!
I agree with you 1000%!!! Especially since no one in these countries actually even use these terms. It’s only used in the U.S.
Exactly! I keep telling people this, because it seems they need to be reminded.
latino is a cultural identity not an ethnicity or race. from mexico to argentina, we all to an extent share a similar culture inherited from exploitation and miscegenation, that mainly rely on being a country that speaks a romance language in the americas (excluding canada).
In spain, italy and portugal we do, or latinamerican but not latinos.
One reason to use term like latino is to study society. (Sorry my english is bad.) For example, if you don't have word for black and white people, you can't study if they are treated equally well by justice system. There are more black, other POC and latino in prison, and without studies we wouldn't know. I'm finnish, and I don't know if similar thing happens in Finland, because "race" or colour of your skin isn't marked anywhere if you go to prison.
Tldr, to study the thing, you need a word for it.
"Latin America" includes Haiti. If you exclude Haiti, then the term becomes "Ibero-America."
It would also include French speaking parts of France. That’s why it’s ridiculous.
As someone who grew up in South America, "latino" was never a word we used. For us it was something that people from outside used to try to classify all countries in the American continent that speak Spanish. I always found it odd, like they seem to think that someone from Mexico shares any sort of cultural identity with someone from Chile or Uruguay. It sounded so ridiculous to us, yes all 3 countries speak Spanish, and used to belong to the Spanish Empire, so what? Nobody would try to lump into a same group India, Scotland and USA and suggest a term from them as a group...and imply that they are similar, despite the fact that all 3 countries speak English and used to be part of the British Empire. So odd indeed.
Well... some people believe Mexico is South America so...
@@pksferdinandd8227
That is because Usaians try to apropiate of the word America and identify themeselves as America so everyone south of it is ...
@@jcvp2493 I love the word "Usatians" hahaha
@@pksferdinandd8227
is not mine but I like it .
It is more nice than to call them " Gringolanders"
They group them into "Anglophones" though. For Spanish speaking countries only they use "hispanophone", but for a mix of latin languages area they use "Latin" or the loan word "Latino" since most latin languages write it that way. In Europe they have the Latin Manetary Union because it regroups several Latin countries.
"Latinx" sounds like a serial combined with an energy drink.
like a laxative?
@@Delgen1951 it might get familiar with time. its like the first time i heard google
I like the term but at first I thought it was like cleanex
It sounds stupid and useless
Cause as a Latino is more easy to use latine which is gender neutral, is just stupid linguistic imperialism posing as woke gender equality. We use vocales abiertas, and the fact that while the gringos put children in concentration camps and try to build a wall like the middle ages, and have the time to critic stupid political correct language is mind blowing.
I'm Portuguese. Historically, we have always considered ourselves "Latinos". And we don't speak Spanish!
The term strictly refers to any speaker of any language derived from ancient Latin. Meaning not only Spanish, but also Italian, Portuguese, French or Romanian.
So, basically, Latinos are spread through the American, European and African continents. Countries like France, Romania, Angola or Senegal are as latinos as Mexico or Colombia. The term has wrongly been confused with "Hispanic". Which is what most people mean when they say "Latino".
Hola, soy peruano y tengo que decirte que el término "hispanic" tb es muy ambiguo. En realidad para referirnos a nosotros aquí en América sería: Hispanoamérica (América española), Lusoamérica (Brasil) y Francamérica (Haití). Latinoamérica sería un intento de agrupar a todos estos como una "identidad" superior. Algunos apuntan a querer llamarnos "Iberoamérica" pero eso no funciona pues sería Hispanoamérica + Brasil + Península Ibérica (Portugal, España y Andorra)
So are French people Latin or Latino?
Latin = language, not a particular race. Latin languages modern derivatives: Spanish, French (including Occitans), Portuguese, Italian and Romanian. All of these languages are spoken by many racial groups.
Don't forget the Philippines
@@monetschannel5773 If you listened to the video, you would have heard the term was coined by a French dude in the mid 19th Century to include French and Portuguese speakers in the Americas (as opposed to Anglo-Saxon America) so, yes. French are Latin.
In my experience “Latino” to outsiders only seems to mean a certain type of person, skin tone and culture. People laugh at me when I identify as Latina, which I am since I am Uruguayan.
You were Brazilian hahaha
I think that is a bit like when they talk about Europeans taking France,UK,czec republic, Netherlands ,etc, is a way that USA americans have to talk about A specific big group
@warrior life psst, wanna hear something?
It is called Latin American because of ascendance from Latin... And Latin tribes were from Europe
Sergio P. Those defendants are probably unaware of those Latin tribes. Shouldn’t it be more about culture than genetics?
Start identifying as "Latin American" instead because this is what you are. Latina? Do you have Roman culture? This is what being Latin means.
I think all of this could have been solved easily with the word "American" to describe people from the American continent but the USA took this word for their citizens.
Yeah I hate it
Well, we have in Spanish the demonym estadounidense so, we make that very clear to avoid misuses or confusion
I don’t agree, I remember when it was used to refer to all the Americans, there are songs in Spanish that talks about the American continent as a whole.
Kore D'Agosto or gringo
Exactly.
And can ppl in the usa stop calling everyone who speaks spanish "spanish" ppl....spanish ppl are ppl from spain. And all latinos come in all shades of color its NOT just what u see on tv.
Exactly. Thank you!
Thats why americans say they speak american. If they say they speak english people think of england, and with english it more easy at least because they have like kinds of english: british, irish... because they separated in countries. But spanish is from spain, is español because we didnt separate.
But they didnt even know where is spain, they say its in mexico not in europe LOL
Well,in fact the denonym of Spain is Spaniard,but ur right, a Mexican, a Colombian,an Argentinian, etc are not Spanish,is like saying English men to USA americans because they speak English as mother tonge
@@W.Gaster there is currently two denonyms for spanish people spaniard and spanish, both are accepted as denonyms. Spaniard (a noun used frecuently by...the americans?, and is slightly obsolete) and spanish (a noun or adjective used normally by the rest of the countries jajajaj). But yes you can use both.
@Itz Yanii thats not correct. The roman empire, the latinos, take some of the south european countries. And these countries were part of the latino towns (i dont know how to translate it, but its pueblos latinos). So there are more countries in Europe that are latinos (also in north Africa), not only italy.
Danielle, you are one of the most informative, articulate, and enthusiastic (not to mention beautiful) educators I've ever had the privilege of learning from. Thank you for the joy, curiosity, and tolerance you bring to your program. All the best. Cheers.
This show is amazing. Thanks for exploring so many terms and concepts, giving context and making them in understandable for all.
Wow, Americans are starting to realize that the world has existed without them for thousands of years.
Wow people are dumb
@@3bdo880 Guarantee you're American.
@@madisonbrown8851 no from egypt one of the oldest civilizations
@C R there are still people who are purely egyptian plus arab countries are old too
Are you actually talking about people of the whole American continent?
I am part of an indigenous community living in South America. I keep my traditions and heritage from my ancestors and I don't identify as a Latino.
Obviously,if ur language and traditions are not from a romance country then I are not latino
This comment deserves more upvotes! I live in Central Mexico a part of the Mazahuas and Otomi, we never called ourselves Latino. The Oaxcan Zapotecs I met in the US never were Latino. This was pushed on Mexican Americans in the 2000s, if you go back to 90s/80s shows and music it was never used, this was because the war of CHIAPAS took place in which the Mayans defeated the PRI/Zedino-Gortarri Army in 1992. Its a tough pill for them to swallow. Afer Calderon and Obama the college roomates , thtas when Latino got pushed on us. It should only be the Argentines of Buenos Airies, but even then ARgentines hide the fact that the GUARANI are a majority. The Fernandez KIRSCHNER family owns the Argentine media and tries to gentrify argentina. Sorry to get political, but theres a lot of misinformation being spread by IBERO AMERICA (a minority) trying to surpress First America(us- majority).
AS YOU SHOULD!
People from latin america calls themselves "latino" as a race to avoid the fact they actually of native american ancestors, many even considers themselves white! here a video:
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You are "Latin Americans". No Latino, no nothing.
Excellent video. Complex historical twists and turns were beautifully explained. Thank you.
“Italy of all places”? Seems odd to hear someone say that from my perspective.
Here’s what most people don’t tell you… The first LATIN tribes (I primi Latini) which is ITALIAN, were actually called the ITALIC tribes.
To be Latin, means exclusively you were of these Latin tribes… these are literally MY forefathers, MY ancestors, My people’s ancient language and everything we are made up of as Italians. That term has become used a little more loosely as time goes on. Today there is a place in Italy called Lazio… in the ancient times of Rome’s reign, it was called Latium… and just like today, as Rome is Italy’s capital… Latium was the capital city of Rome. Which was Italy’s old name (to put things simply). They named their capital Latium, because it was the beautiful base home and capital for the Latins. They named it Latium in honor of who they/we were (who we still are today).
There are many different dialects in Italy. Where you come from is a factor on which dialect you speak. In fact, today there is an Italian dialect called Latino, that’s also very different from Latin and guess who speaks it!? The people who live in the town of LATINA, which is the capital city of the province Latina, which is in the region of LAZIO!!! Technically, nowadays if you’re from Roma, you’re Romano. If you’re from Latina, you’re Latino. If you’re from Calabria, you’re Calabrese, etc.. The reason why we are Italiani today is BECAUSE the first latini were called Italic.
However, WE ARE LATINI period. Not even a debate, and “Latino” is just a variation of Latini not a separate meaning.
Well said 👏👏
Very Good. Being Latins means possessing the linguistic and cultural heritage of the Romans. It doesn't mean anything else.
The term "Latinx" is so cringe. Spanish is a language with gendered nouns. Grammatical gender =/= human gender identity, hence why the seemingly gender-neutral term "person" is a noun that still has a default gender in Spanish, Greek, Russian...
I have no idea where latinx came from but I doubt someone here in south america would actually be able to use it. We don't have, like in say french, nouns that sound the same in singular and plural, which latinx/latinxs would do so. Lol I can't imagine a carioca (person from Rio de Janeiro) speaking that, they already find a way to place a hissing x sounds for every word now imagine that one, grab a towel for the spitting.
Latinx is a half-assed attempt at something that would be useful for more reasons than respecting non-men (that is, women and non binaries etc, because let's be honest that's their focus right now). A neutre form would be useful in absolutely general ways, you wouldn't need to say senhoras e senhores (ladies and gentlemen) or whatever equivalent if you are a public speaker, or work with many people, like teachers, nurses, doctors, etc. I know I would definetly like that addition! But I am a city person with enough means to not be illiterate like the majority of my country, and I look to work with impoverished and uneducated peoples who will not understand that language for most of my lifetime even if that neutre thing started today. So basically, with the way those folks are doing it, this latinxs, latines thingy will just be a slang for a few people trying to promote their ideology of deconstructing gender or whatever they call it.
A fad, difficult to nationalize that, especially when it's promoted so obnoxiously as it is.
Is true. Here in Argentina all the time are people trying to normalize that "inclusion" and honestly nobody cares, just a small group of annoying people.
It’s pushed by North Americans. Bugs every Latino I’ve ever talked to.
Meh. "Latino" is an invented word. As are the words we are typing. Named languages (ex. Spanish) may adhere to specific rules, but people are free to change and challenge words as they wish as language is social and helps us communicate. If this terms (latinx) helps people identify themselves, that's fully within their right, regardless of how cringe you may find it. There are phrases in Spain or Puerto Rican Spanish that I personally do not use, but I don't call them "cringe." Those words formed out of that communities language. Language changes as people evolve and the communities that prefer that term are fully within their right to use it.
@@markzavala8811 I am a Latinx person so I find it odd that you speak as If we are all outside of it, as if we're they. That might be for you but not for me. Latino is a umbrella term for many different cultures in my continent so of course I have every right to give my opinion on how to improve it. I don't see the point of your comment, it's like you didn't read mine but ok. Neutre gender would be complicated to start here, language being "made up" or not has nothing to do with that. That was all i was saying. I hope there are some improvements on how to do it but I'm afraid its gonna be a niche slang thing for awhile, the people who use it today are not interested in popularizing it so much as setting themselves apart. It's obnoxious and it's not working. I find it funny that when a Latinx person comments on the topic (me) you decide to ignore it and gatekeep and talk about general bland things about "they". They can become you here you know, it's just a conversation anyways. We are not gonna be angry or offended by disagreeing, we like finding common grounds and learning from new perspectives, that's what this new gender neutral should embody and represent, it can and should be popularized and not just a specific urban tribe slang, which is what it is right now.
As a Mexican living in the usa it's like people pull my hair when they say "no you're Hispanic" or "you are latinx"... No manchen
Just call me mexican and i'm fine with that.
Haha people are so afraid of calling a tico or boricua “Mexican” that they wont call a Mexican... Mexican
@@GZQ9 I only preffer Mexican because I refuse to identify with other Hispanic/Latinos
Music speaks for us I think, you know?... go ahead and listen to a Jarocho song from Veracruz (Mexico) and a Joropo from Bolívar (Venezuela). They practically sound the same. Proving we're all from the same roots. Call it south American or Latino, whatever it is, we're tightly together.
David Jesús Granadillo di Gravia That’s really just similar cultures, same thing with the United States and Canada
Danielle is the kind of teacher I wish I had growing up! This was fasinating!
Loved how you explained this. You've gained a new fan/follower.
I am a non-binary Latin American, but I do not like the word latinx because as I just demostrated it is not necessary and I appreciate grammar :/
I wonder who came up with such ridiculous word... What's next? mexicanx? colombianx? just absurd....
I believe if the last letter was a vowel it would at least sound ok
@@KateeAngel And what's wrong with "o"? That's the inclusive gender in Spanish, Americans should just accept it instead of imposing stupid things on our language, lol.
Ariana M The masculine works as neutral in Spanish, but people think they have to impose new language rules and it’s not necessary
ActaNonVerba Wrong, I’m a bunch of rats stacked in a trench coat
You just answered my question of “why are the people of Quebec not considered Latino if French is Latin descended too?” I didn’t know it’s origin was also tied to socioeconomic factors, not just linguistic ones, until now.
Also in Québec "Latin Americans" are considered to be a visible minority.
@@alexn.2901 Although, Argentines/Uruguayans do have way more in common - racially speaking - with those from Spain/Italy (which is where the vast majority of Argentines/Uruguayans can trace their ancestry to) than with those from, say, Guatemala or Venezuela or Ecuador or even Chile.
It's actually not because of what they tried to answer. They would be considered part of Latin America/Latinos IF they were an independent country. For example, Haiti would be the only Francophone country considered Latino because they're independent and the rest of the French speaking islands and French Guiana are dependencies or overseas possessions/territories of France. Would Quebec become independent, then it's another question. Today Quebecois still suffer discrimination within Anglo-Canada such as getting paid less for the same jobs, language and ethnic discrimination, etc...or else we could include Louisiana, the former Mexican territories in the USA (Texas, California, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, Montana...etc....), Florida as Latinos as well...only one that breaks this rule is Puerto Rico. But that's a very tricky situation there.
Don't calling people from Quebec Latinos is Discrimination.
@@yodorob That makes them more " Latinos". Let's remember that people who descent from Native Americans like many Mexicans and Guatemalan are NOT latinos.
I have a racist boss that said: "I know we have many Latinos in the team, but let's try not to be late", then he said he meant people from Latin heritage in the broad definition (Italy, Spain, etc)
maybe it's an attempt to humor.
Since latino isn't a race you can't be RACIST towards a latino but you could still discriminate towards us I'm Afro Latino so I'm black
Wow ! I was hugely impressed with how thorough your research was. .
Why not just say where people are from like people from Mexico are Mexican
Because its impossible to classify anyone at first glance. What if you make a mistake and call a Peruvian person Ecuadorian or a Spaniard from spain a Colombian. Most don't want to be mistaken to be a different culture than what they are. God forbid you call a Dominican a Mexican 🙄 They'll have a stroke. Cause we all know MOST Dominicans think their culture is superior to everyone else's lol
Racists like to put us in boxes.
@@tecpaocelotl not necessarily racists. We all put our selves into boxes and we are a part of boxes and that isn't bad because we have a culture that defines us.
Because thr is often a shared culture between latinx peple that we wouldnt have with other people, a chilean and an argentinian are different culturally but share a lot more than they do with canadians.
We have shared culture and it helps group and form a community
My question is why do we have to lump everyone south of The US in one category in the first place?
If that's the case let's call everyone in the US EnglishX
Because that's the only way gringos' minds can comprehend it. To them all africans, latinos, asians, europeans are the same. And then they think their country is the only one with diversity lmao
Hmm, well probably because English is usually reserved for people from England, also English is not a gendered language so no need for the x
It’s really a bureaucracy thing. We(the US) can’t put every nation on our paperwork so we have to find ways to lump groups together. Whether or not that’s a good idea is another discussion.
@@ElLenadorLA
I would accept that explanation if the US lump all its own citizens as Americans without distinction of any ethnic group
"for bureaucratic purposes"
Junior Mynos Our government wants to know the “race” and location of its citizens so it can run statistics and create policy based on that to try and correct disparities, among a million other reasons. That may or may not be a good idea, again, completely separate discusión.
We do have a category for white Americans, it’s “white/Caucasian” whether you’re Italian German English or Swedish descent.
Caucasian is a big misnomer as well but that’s also a separate discussion.
I love this channel. I never knew about this and never knew how to ask.
Keep the videos coming!
Although “Latino” doesn’t mean we are all the same race, or share the same religion or culture, there is a common “Latino experience” if you will that we all share. LatinAmerica has a common history: we were all colonized, mostly by spainiards who brought their culture, foods, religious beliefs, and those are ours now as well. We are also mostly third word country’s with all that it implies and we share that experience as well, most countries lived through a military coup in the 50s, and many other examples.
If you ever take the time to know other Latinos you will notice we have more in common than we think, even though we might not look the same or speak the same, we are united.
Eques Corvi as if we all look the same, guess you weren’t paying attention to the video. In my country all the natives were slaughtered by the Spaniards, such an injustice. I am Latina, say what you will
Lucia F No los mataron a todos, la mayoría perecieron por enfermedades.
@@luciaf5626 stop lying by just looking at your profile picture t is obvious that you are ether mestiza or castiza don't say the Spanish slaughtered all the natives cuando en Los estados unidos la mayoria de Los latinos son INDIGENAS
@Patty 7373 pues so que paren de exajerar la mayoria de Los latinos sobre Los españoles mas bien hay que agradecer que Los españoles de mezclaron con nosotros
Juan Moreno and who said I’m from the United States? I’m not, I’m Uruguayan and I’m not lying, this is the charrua genoside that was subsidized by the government (spainiards at the time) es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matanza_del_Salsipuedes they killed all the charruas and the ones that didn’t die had to flee to Paraguay. They didn’t die of sickness as some other people in this thread suggested. They were slaughtered. And I am white since you put into question my race, which has nothing to do with being Latina, if you even payed attention to the video.
Modern Spanish is also called castellano , as it for the Castilian region in Spain
In fact people who speaks Spanish are in fact speaking Castellano
In Spain there are many other languages, but castellano took precedence and became the official name of Spanish as representation of Spain as common language
So, Castillian-American??
@@mikejunior211 uhmmm....I would say yes, if you have a gringo mindset :D :D :D
Spanish also became the so-called official language of Spain because of ethnic cleansing (i.e. language and cultural obliteration) of independent groups like the Catalans and Euskaldun (AKA Basque people) through fascist rule of political figures like Francisco Franco.
@@Pou1gie1 limpieza etnica? de vascos y catalanes? mediante franco? y fascista? dios, cuantas vueltas tiene esa cabeza jaja
@@mikejunior211 Were not all descended from Castillians. But we are descended from people of Spanish culture.
The first time I ever heard the word "latino" was from the lips from some actor from USA, until then we used to call ourselves "latinoamericanos". Then, "latino" sticked thanks to cultural colonization. Interesting that the most common usage of the word nowadays ignores the "America" part, specially after being popularized by a country that insists on calling itself as the whole continent.
Because it’s the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
they forgot to give the country a name, like all countries around the world, composed by "united states"; shame on them.
A comprehensive talk on the word Latino . You are my new favorite 💐💐
Super interesting!! Thank you. You got a new subscriber.
Actually the term “Latino” is a shortened version of “Latino Americano” meaning the people in the american continent (No USA) but central and South America who descend from Spaniards , Portuguese and French and whose native language is original Latino European (Latin or modern Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese which are ramifications of Latin). The Term Hispanic(short for hispanoamericanos), refers to the subgroup of Latinos descendants from Hispania (modern Spain). Brazilian and Haitians are Latinos but not Hispanics.
Portugal its also situated at Roman province Hispania , (Ibéria peninsula) contains Spain, Portugal and Andorra. So Portugal its also a Hispanic country, but not Spanisch. The Spaniards calls Spain as Spain where the whole Hispania , but it is not reality. They appropriated the name Hispania to call theyre country Spain (Espana) which is wrong.
or some just speak the language derived from Latin , period
That’s why Latino is better it encompasses them too
As a Latino that was born and raised in the US, I get the whole notion behind _Latinx._ However, _Latinx_ only works for English because it's a fairly gender neutral language. It doesn't really work for Spanish (or other Romance languages) because (as mentioned in the video) it's a gendered language - one would have to first change the entire Spanish language and make it gender neutral for it to make sense (but I could be completely wrong). As someone who also speaks Spanish fluently, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense grammatically. Also, from my personal experience, I've noticed that the people that use the term _Latinx_ are usually Latinos and Latinas from the US that are university educated, activists, elitists, and/or people that don't really speak Spanish or know how Spanish works. I heard the term being used most while I attended university. _Latinx_ is seldom used in Latin America and those that do use it there are (again) usually those with a university education and elites. I have seen people in Latin America use _Latino/a_ or _Latin@_ (in writing) more than _Latinx_ though. Why not just drop the _o, a_ and _x_ and just say _Latin_ or _Latin American_ if anyone wants to be gender neutral in English? I don't think I've really ever heard a layperson use the term _Latinx._ Again, this is from my observation, I am neither for nor am against the use of the term _Latinx._ This is all a very complex and delicate topic because there are so many people that identify with and are for or against certain terms. I am much aware that many people may not share my point of view but that's alright, to each their own.
Side note: Anyone can be Latino and Latina, Latin America is a melting pot much like the US, there people of Mestizo, Indigenous, African, Asian, Middle Eastern, and European ancestry throughout Latin America.
@nati sanz _Elle_ and _Latine_ are French and for the most part when people refer to Latinos and Latinas, they are usually talking about people from Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries in Latin America, not so much the French speaking ones. Portuguese has _eles_ as a plural but it also has _ele_ for the masculine singular and _ela_ for the feminine singular. In Spanish, _elle_ is the name for _Ll/ll_ (the double L). Both Spanish and Portuguese use the terms _Latino, Latina, Latinos,_ and _Latinas._ French can be gender neutral but Spanish and Portuguese rarely can, they're both gendered for the most part.
@oscar arenda english is gender neutral like German or other European languages (I can speak for). But people who don't study their own language think it isn't. In Germany we have the ridiculous ambition to gender everything instead of using the neutral standard because if they hear maskulin they think it is manly. The purpose of maskulin in German (and English for example) is to describe without gender. But people don't want to hear experts out and command from above to use gender terms. Everybody got crazy over this shit.
@M E Those and other loanwords still get gendered in Spanish though. I was talking about how are we supposed to refer to someone in gender neutral when the gender neutral cases are almost non-existent and if there are any, they're seldom used in Spanish. The average Spanish speaker talks in a gendered case on their day to day.
Examples:
• Quiere comprarse _el_ nuevo _iPhone._
• No se acabó _el sushi_ que se ordenó.
• ¿Puedo usar _la laptop_ por un rato?
• _El fútbol_ es el deporte más popular del mundo.
How would one refer to someone who identifies as _Latinx_ in a gender neutral way in Spanish?
These examples are all gendered (I couldn't think of any ways to make them gender neutral in Spanish.):
• _Esa(s) persona(s)_ se identifica como _Latinx._
• _El_ se identifica como _Latinx._
• _Ella(s)_ se identifica como _Latinx_
• _Ellos_ se identifican como _Latinx_
• _La gente_ se identifica como _Latinx._
• _Los activistas_ se identifican como _Latinx._
The only way I could think of it being gender neutral would be if you use the person's name.
• (Nombre) se identifica como _Latinx._
I agree with all of your points very much...i have been saying the same things since this whole Latinx thing surfaced.
Here in Brazil it used to be x or @ but those are impossible to speak and creates problem for blind people who use softwares to read online and those with dyslexia and stuff like that. Now people use e (ie: latine) but it is still a problem for people who have dyslexia and it's only used in written form, no one actually talks like that. It's a nice efford to include everyone but it just doesn't work in Portuguese.
This video and channel need so much more attention
I'm brazilian, and curiously only identified with being latino after moving abroad; many brazilians (perhaps most?) do not identify themselves as latino, which seems silly and weird, though it there are reasons for that, including but not limited to the language difference. curiously, I've met a couple of romanians who would say "I'm latino too", after hearing that from me, coming from the idea that because they're romance-language speakers, they're also latino, which in a whole other way it's also silly and weird. yet I agree with some other comments here, that say that latino is usually a term used by outsiders to define us first, and often absorbed and reproduced by us in an attempt to represent a part of our identities.
I would leave a similar comment. But yours is so well explained, that it makes no sense to leave another one.
Latino Is the SOLE identity of Latin Europeans. Latin europe was Latinized by ROME ITALY hence how Latina italy got the name Latina. & Hispanic is literally the Latin language MEANING SPAIN NOT the NATIVE AMERICANS they Colonized. Latin America got its name SOLELY and ONLY to mean the part of the Americas CONQUERED by LATIN Europe and that is all it will EVER MEAN. Latin ORIGIN, HISTORY& people are NON INTERCHANGEABLE. STOP THE CULTURAL THEFT OF MY PEOPLE& OUR ANCESTRY. BRAINWASHED NORTH AMERICAN CULTURAL APPROPRIATION & CULTURAL RAPE FOR "PROFIT AND GAIN" WILL NEVER BE LATINO. CULTURAL APPROPRIATION EXIST BECAUSE THOSE LIKE YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM THE CULTURAL THEFT TOWARDS US TRUE LATIN PEOPLE AND OUR HISTORICAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS!
AND US TRUE LATINS ARE & HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MULTI RACIAL ETHNIC PEOPLE DUE TO OUR GENETIC CONTRIBUTORS FROM OUR ASIAN(MIDDLE EASTERN), NORTH AFRICAN AND BALKAN GYPSIE DNA. THERE ARE NO "WHITE" LATINS. JUST MORE ASSIMILATION. "LatinX" is a Form of appropriation, a made up Non existant term that will NEVER be of latin origin and it will NEVER be a term used by CULTURALLY AWOKEN Latin men and women as it is one of the many things is this country that mocks our heritage and that is ALL "LatinX" will EVER mean
The only silly and stupid thing here is that you don't consider romanians to be latins. If the US citizens have brainwashed you latin Americans to think that you are the only latins in the world it's not our problem. Latin European do we exists since centuries before Portuguese and Spanish was spoken in America. And the only reason for which you are consider to be latin and not any other thing is because you have adopted the language and culture from the LATIN EUROPEAN people. Nosotros somos latinos también, piensen lo que piensen los estadounidenses y eramos latinos mucho antes de que Estados Unidos existiera como país.
Vc não é latino, vc é um barbarus
Latino significa nativo de Italia, ergo vc não é latino
Loved this video, Danielle's voice and vibe make me want to pay attention. As a Brazilian, I've never identified as a "latino" because we don't really have strong ties to other nations, although our history and economies are really interwoven. Unless you live near the borders (usually smaller towns), you don't have much contact with our Latin-America hermanos. However, after moving to North-America, I've been mostly identified as "latino" by this outside-gaze. Also, "latinx" is a term pushed forward by gender-neutrality activism, but in our language, Portuguese, it's been criticized as a non-inclusive term (or an exclusionary) by folks with vision impairments who rely on assistive technology to read texts online, since the programs they use aren't adapted to read the x without a flow disruption. Alternatives to it have been proposed, such as "latine", which the programs can read and still maintain the integral sense of the sentences.
Thank you for sharing how latinx is viewed in your culture because I would have never known that it could affect those who are visually impaired and require text to speech
@@biindiecat2878 it was also only popular for maybe a year. You still see conservatives complain about the -x suffix (often by mockingly replacing random vowels with “x”), even though it’s been supplanted by -e for like half a decade.
LATINE IS A LATIN TERM WHICH COMES FROM ITALY AND IS STILL USED IN THE ITALIAN LANGUAGE! LATINE IS PLURAL FOR LATINA! THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE AMERICAN MISAPPROPRIATION AND CULTURAL RAPE OF LATIN EUROPEAN TERMS WHICB COME FROM ITALY! 😂😂😂LATINE IS PLURA FOR LATINA IN THE LATIN LANGUAGE OF ITALY AND IS STILL USED IN THE ITALIAN DIALECTS. THERE IS NOTHING GENDER NEUTRAL ABOUT LATINE IT LITERALLY MEANS A LATIN FEMALES IN LATIN/ ITALIAN. 🙄THE CULTURA LATINA, THE LATIN PEOPLE, THE LATINO (Latini) TRIBES, THE LATIN ETHNICITY ALL COME FROM ITALY! LATINO IS THE SOLE IDENTITY OF SOUTHERN EUROPEAN LATIN MEDITERRANEAN DIASPORA. Latin europe was Latinized by ROME ITALY hence how Latina italy got the name Latina. & HISPANIC (Hispania) is literally the Latin language MEANING SPAIN NOT the NATIVE AMERICANS they Colonized. Latin America got its name SOLELY and ONLY to mean the part of the Americas CONQUERED by LATIN EUROPE and that is all it will EVER MEAN. Latin ORIGIN, HISTORY& people are NON INTERCHANGEABLE. STOP THE CULTURAL THEFT OF MY PEOPLE& OUR ANCESTRY. BRAINWASHED AMERICAN/ MOSTLY NORTH AMERICAN CULTURAL APPROPRIATION & CULTURAL THEFT FOR "PROFIT AND GAIN" WILL NEVER BE LATINO. CULTURAL APPROPRIATION EXIST BECAUSE THOSE LIKE YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM THE CULTURAL THEFT TOWARDS US TRUE LATIN PEOPLE AND OUR HISTORICAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS! AND US TRUE LATINS ARE & HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MULTI GENETICALLY MIXED ETHNIC PEOPLE DUE TO OUR GENETIC CONTRIBUTORS FROM OUR MIDDLE EASTERN (ASIAN), NORTHERN AFRICAN, AND ANCIENT ETHNIC BALKAN DNA. THERE ARE NO "WHITE" LATINS. JUST MORE ASSIMILATION . SOUTH CENTRAL AMERICANS AND MEXICANS ARE NATIVE AMERICANS, MESTIZOS, CASTIZOS, PARDOS, ZAMBOS, AND PURE SUB SAHARAN AFRICANS. NOT LATINS, NOT LATIN BLOOD, THEREFORE NOT LATINO. IN SOUTH CENTRAL AMERICA AND MÉXICO THE ONLY PEOPLE CALLED LATINO AND HISPANIC ARE US SOUTHERN EUROPEANS OF LATIN MEDITERRANEAN ORIGIN. OBVIOUSLY THE SAME IN LATIN EUROPE. PUSHING AND CONTRIBUTING TO BRAINWASHED NORTH AMERICAN MISAPPROPRIATION OF FOREIGN TERMS SUCH AS LATIN/LATINO AS TRENDING PROPAGANDA FOR SOCIAL STATUS TO APPEAR MORE DESIRABLE DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE CONTINUING CONTRIBUTIONS OF CULTURAL THEFT. THE TERM LATINO DERIVES FROM THE TERM LATINI, THE LATINI WHERE THE VERY FIRST LATIN TRIBE TO EXIST FROM ITALY! LATINI IS PLURAL MEANING MORE THAN ONE LATINO! AND LATINO IS SINGULAR FOR LATINI MEANING ONE LATINO. THE SAME WITH LATINA AND LATINE. ALL TERMS CREATED BY THE TRUE LATIN PEOPLE OF ITALY. THE AMERICAN MUTILATION AND CULTURAL THEFT OF LATIN EUROPEAN TERMS NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED. YOU CAN NOT BE PART OF AN ORIGIN, HISTORY AND ETHNICITY WHICH YOUR ANCESTORS FACTUALLY ARE NOT HISTORICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
@@biindiecat2878 😂😂😂LATINE IS PLURA FOR LATINA IN THE LATIN LANGUAGE OF ITALY AND IS STILL USED IN THE ITALIAN DIALECTS. THERE IS NOTHING GENDER NEUTRAL ABOUT LATINE IT LITERALLY MEANS A LATIN FEMALES IN LATIN/ ITALIAN. 🙄THE CULTURA LATINA, THE LATIN PEOPLE, THE LATINO (Latini) TRIBES, THE LATIN ETHNICITY ALL COME FROM ITALY! LATINO IS THE SOLE IDENTITY OF SOUTHERN EUROPEAN LATIN MEDITERRANEAN DIASPORA. Latin europe was Latinized by ROME ITALY hence how Latina italy got the name Latina. & HISPANIC (Hispania) is literally the Latin language MEANING SPAIN NOT the NATIVE AMERICANS they Colonized. Latin America got its name SOLELY and ONLY to mean the part of the Americas CONQUERED by LATIN EUROPE and that is all it will EVER MEAN. Latin ORIGIN, HISTORY& people are NON INTERCHANGEABLE. STOP THE CULTURAL THEFT OF MY PEOPLE& OUR ANCESTRY. BRAINWASHED AMERICAN/ MOSTLY NORTH AMERICAN CULTURAL APPROPRIATION & CULTURAL THEFT FOR "PROFIT AND GAIN" WILL NEVER BE LATINO. CULTURAL APPROPRIATION EXIST BECAUSE THOSE LIKE YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM THE CULTURAL THEFT TOWARDS US TRUE LATIN PEOPLE AND OUR HISTORICAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS! AND US TRUE LATINS ARE & HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MULTI GENETICALLY MIXED ETHNIC PEOPLE DUE TO OUR GENETIC CONTRIBUTORS FROM OUR MIDDLE EASTERN (ASIAN), NORTHERN AFRICAN, AND ANCIENT ETHNIC BALKAN DNA. THERE ARE NO "WHITE" LATINS. JUST MORE ASSIMILATION . SOUTH CENTRAL AMERICANS AND MEXICANS ARE NATIVE AMERICANS, MESTIZOS, CASTIZOS, PARDOS, ZAMBOS, AND PURE SUB SAHARAN AFRICANS. NOT LATINS, NOT LATIN BLOOD, THEREFORE NOT LATINO. IN SOUTH CENTRAL AMERICA AND MÉXICO THE ONLY PEOPLE CALLED LATINO AND HISPANIC ARE US SOUTHERN EUROPEANS OF LATIN MEDITERRANEAN ORIGIN. OBVIOUSLY THE SAME IN LATIN EUROPE. PUSHING AND CONTRIBUTING TO BRAINWASHED NORTH AMERICAN MISAPPROPRIATION OF FOREIGN TERMS SUCH AS LATIN/LATINO AS TRENDING PROPAGANDA FOR SOCIAL STATUS TO APPEAR MORE DESIRABLE DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE CONTINUING CONTRIBUTIONS OF CULTURAL THEFT. THE TERM LATINO DERIVES FROM THE TERM LATINI, THE LATINI WHERE THE VERY FIRST LATIN TRIBE TO EXIST FROM ITALY! LATINI IS PLURAL MEANING MORE THAN ONE LATINO! AND LATINO IS SINGULAR FOR LATINI MEANING ONE LATINO. THE SAME WITH LATINA AND LATINE. ALL TERMS CREATED BY THE TRUE LATIN PEOPLE OF ITALY. THE AMERICAN MUTILATION AND CULTURAL THEFT OF LATIN EUROPEAN TERMS NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED. YOU CAN NOT BE PART OF AN ORIGIN, HISTORY AND ETHNICITY WHICH YOUR ANCESTORS FACTUALLY ARE NOT HISTORICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
@@biindiecat28781 year later and I just wanted to say this is a comment that genuinely inspires hope inside of me.
What a sweet and insightful comment.
Insta fan! I’m from Spain. In the US some people need to racially label everyone and I was confusing to some people, which was annoying.
Qué lindo
So true
The same. Confused. Hello from Ukraine.
The Spanish had a caste system based on race in the Americas. Europeans in general were obsessed with race.
@@davidesparza3637 exactly the term race originated from west Europe.
🔹️When I heard the word "latinos" the first thing that came to my mind is the Romance languages that are direct descendants o of latin (Italian, French, Portuguese, Spaniard, Romanian).
🔹️When I heard the word "African-American" the first thing that came to my mind is a person born in Ámerica( the continent) with african rooths (rooths from Africa (another continent). Base on the fact that both continents have a vast gamma of different phenotypical features, that person can have even blue eyes, very fair skin and blond hair.
🔺️After leaving couples of year in USA...I learned that when "Americans" (united statians) said "latinos" they mean people that came from or are descendants of any Spanish speaking country in America ( the continent), especially if you have a "brown" skin. I also learned that when united statians said "African-American" they mean black people born in USA.
Some people said is because the Educational System here (USA)is very bad. I think is because the USA is one if not the most racist country is this planet.
You are quite right. USA is one of the most racist counties on the planet. We shall rise. Thanks for your honesty.
@ Origin Of Everything - At 3:24, the name of that tribe is Kuna not Guna and the country is called Colombia not Columbia. Good video.
As a Mexican I always appreciate your content! You go deep into issues that all minorities face in America! You dive deep into the issues while also summarizing things perfectly! It's truly a Talent!
Latin American is a boundary to separate USA from the rest of the Continent. We are in one continente. Latino es not a race, nor identified as a specific language. It is more than a segregation name.
It separates the US and Canada. I think it also excludes Guayana and Surinam, at least in name.
That's why they should call themselves usaians, because Americans is everyone born in the continent jaja
Latino is incorrect in English. The correct way in English is LATIN. Latin only refers to Romance Languages and Roman Latin Culture.
Your English is becoming Spanish. I mean no offense, because I love and I'm already learning Spanish
Latino? You must use your Race to identify yourselves or use the name of your country of origin or just say Latin American/s. We all identify ourselves this way and you must do the same. Latino is not your Race and has nothing to do with you.You are from Latin America then you are Latin Americans. Blame Mexican Frank del Olmo who years ago wanted to unite all the Spanish-speaking people of the Americas but he chose the wrong "Latino" term. He should have chosen a RACE for all of you or Latin Americans but not Latino which is even grammatically incorrect in English-correct way is LATIN. Latin/Latino/Latina ONLY refers to Latin Languages (Romance Languages) and Roman Latin Culture an d has nothing to do with your Skin Color/Ethnicity or DNA. Sorry there is NO Latin Cuisine, No Latin Food, No Latin Music. It's all your invention. Everything Latin be it the Latin People, the Latin Language and the Latin Culture all comes from Roman Italy and has nothing to do with you. You must use a RACE to identify yourselves or the country of your origin or say "Latin American" but not Latin, not Latino, not Latina, Not Latinx and not Hispanic.Latin only refers to Latin Languages and Roman Latin Culture.
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Great breakdown of this topic! :)
People that use the word "Latinx" are the ones that say "no sabo" instead of "no se"
My Mom is Afro Choctaw of Creole descent, and my Dad is Afro Latino of Dominican and Puerto Rican descent.
My dad (rip) never called himself Afro Latino. He was a proud Dominicano Boriqua, Black man, born in PR.
I call that side DominRican 😂
Americans are obsessed with labels 😑 and apparently calling us by our country of origin is too difficult 😑
@Eric Sirias But that's the thing it's already widely acknowledged and accepted and known and understood that race in the manner that is used today in society is completely a social construct and holds no basis in scientific discoveries. And when it comes to cultures that is completely something that is malleable and differs from each and every person you speak to. yes you can have a collective majority that agrees on something but that doesn't mean everyone looks at culture the exact same way. That's why as someone who does come from a mixed background I just say go with your nationality, you can't be wrong with that one because it's literally where you were born that's what you are if you really want to get into detail then going to your ethnicity but it really shouldn't be more complicated than that but thats just my opinion.
welll we as latinos wedont use those terms...afro....cus colour dosent make wht we r
..is more colture....and regions
@@rabidbunny1013 maybe it’s because there are differences that an individual wants to acknowledge or maybe it’s because they’re treated as “other” because of their phenotype and want an indenture that denotes their shared experience with others that look like them OR it’s because colonizers created the caste system and that’s why….
@@TheGiker not true
Fun fact: the journal she cited, Hispania, is still the Journal of the American Association of Teachers of Spanish and Portuguese, and includes articles and reviews in both languages, as well as English
Woah... Got this in my recommended after I was learning about south America to impress a dude! Not disappointed !!! 😻
"Latino" is inclusive. Its "Latina" that is exclusive. A man, a group of men, a group of men and women, a single person whose gender is unknown, a groups whose gender composition is unknown are all referred to as "Latino(s)". Its only a known woman or known group of only women that can be referred to as "Latina(s)". Of course I don't expect people that just like to look for trouble and don't even understand a single words of Castellano to understand.
Es que somos Americanos desde Canada hasta Argentina, es increible que muchisima gente no se tenga esa confianza y hasta lo duden, siempre he estado en contra de esa estupida palabra y de escuchar a mucha gente referirse solamente a los estadounidenses como "Americanos", yo siempre les he llamado en Inglés: United Statians (Estadounidenses) o United Statians of America (Estadounidenses de América)
De otra forma también le dicen gringos 😂
A veces los llamamos "états-uniens" en francés y odian eso. 😂😂😂
United Statians es el termo más bueno que he escuchado, pero nadie en el mundo inglohablante hablaría eso porque no suena natural. Sería igual de decir "Dominican Republicans". Llamemos "Dominicans" porque "Dominican Republican" suena a George Bush era caribeño! Lol
En inglés no hay una palabra que significa "estadounidenses". La sola manera comunicar esa idea en inglés es "United States citizen", si no quieres decir simple "American". Inglés hablado es muy muy despacio en relación a español. No podemos decir "United States citizen" suficientemente rápido para usarlo en conversaciones.
united statians xDDDDDDD que mamada
en mi país les decimos gringos
At the end of the day we are all Americans and that’s it. You were born in this continent? Yes? American.
Thank 👏🏼 you 👏🏼
Rabid Bunny is that Jimin? 😂
@@angu15 😂 yup, im on my army yt channel 😂
@@angu15 u army?
Rabid Bunny I knew it!! I recognize my baby everywhere! He is my bias 😂
I am an American born and raised in New York of Puerto Rican descent, I was never confused about my identity, it was other people who were confused about it.
I loved this video! Hello from paraguay, hispanic part of latin america
It's a United Statian thing. Like when they call themselves "American", even when Amerigo Vespucci was thinking of Caribbean lands when using his name for the place.
It’s never going to catch steam, lol. People from the USA are labeled as American. I’d happily accept someone from Chile telling people they’re American if they’d like.
Everyone in this hemisphere is "American" US nationals just think they have a monopoly on the word lol.. It's hilarious.
@@TheSublimeLifestyle actually, in Portuguese and Spanish, nobody says "America", we all say "Estados Unidos"; "Americano/Americana" is also swapped for "Estadunidense"(although not always since the former rolls better on the tongue), which is probably why he used the direct translation in his comment, so it already did catch steam, just not in english
To me, the most intriguing question is really who want to group us and why? We are like a full mix of cultures that shares SOME specific things (as we do with european and anglo-sax) but are a lot different as well... So why do they group us? What is the intention? I don't know but, to me is a form of discrimination or a way to colonize us... I'm argentinian and in no way shape or form am I similar to a hatian or even an a american who has argentinian heritage!!! Or do I look like Kat Von D? (I wish)
Colonizer terms
The answer is: cause they’re racist.
it’s a term people in the US made up in the 1970s lol idk why anyone takes it seriously it’s not like people across latin america are similar enough to fall under one same label
Statistics 🙄 and need a quick word.....
Why focus on our differences instead of our similarities, we have indeed similar conducts that make us culturally alike also our foods and dances
I’ve really learned something from this video! I was always wondering Why is it always. Well explained thank you
WHERE'S THE GUY IN THE COVER OF THE VIDEO I NEVER SAW HIM!!!!!😭
I’ve definitely wondered about the etymology of “Latino” before now, so thanks for laying down some history. If you’re interested in other similar ideas, I’d like an investigation into how “American” came to signify just the United States and not the continent(s) as a whole.
I’ve actually heard that people in parts of the Americas outside the US may refer to themselves as “Americans”, that being people of the Americas.
In Portuguese, Italian, and Spanish dictionaries, Latino is defined as an ancient Romans who spoke Latin, and the people from Europe and the Americas who speak a Latin language, the latin language in Latin is called Lingua Latina. As a Mexican I don’t like how the latino word is used because it excludes our brotherhood with Latin Europeans
@Wuisley García You're right. And is no accident that is in only in Spanish that we call "Americans" differently, is a reaction against Manifest Destiny: "They're US'ians not Americans, they have no right to the whole continent only to the US"
Yeah you know how Eurocentrism is a thing? In the USA that evolved into Euro-Americentrism//Americentrism. Basically the term American as focused on United Statesians, when all of North and South America are America too (altho those are colonial terms), reflects how the USA has the attitude that its the centre of the world lol.
I hope they make a video about this too!
@ferg5x5 you are correct we do call ourselves Americans because we are, everybody thats a citizen in this continent is American.
The US being called US of America doesn't change that. Just like Central Republic of Africa doesn't make Congolese not Central Africans, or not Africans, or Saudi Arabia or Emirate Arab States doesn't make people from Bahrain less Arabian. You get what I'm saying?
But we mostly call ourselves our own country's or maybe Latin Americans (which Brazilians avoided using sometimes when I was younger, go figure, you guys got your mexican bigotry we got our bolivian bigotry. But we don't do that now).
Saw the thumbnail and was like: "Ugh, is Danielle not hosting this one?" 😀
Kinda weird they used a male in the thumbnail and not the actual presenter
Yup never been so confused when I'm filling out documents.
The terms “Hispanic/Latino” need to be completely removed from the U.S. Census. None of the countries in “so-called” Latin America even use these terms..... But just so people understand, Hispanic means ALL Spanish-Speaking Countries. This includes Western Sahara and Equatorial Guinea. Latino means ALL countries in the Americas that speak a Romance language. This includes French and Portuguese. I just can’t stand how people walk around being proud of something without even knowing what it ACTUALLY means. But if anything, the term Latin American makes the most sense because a French-Speaker would most likely not be comfortable with a non-French sounding term like “Latino”. And I think “Spanish-Speaking” is more appropriate than “Hispanic” because it emphasizes that this is regarding language and NOT race as most people assume.
Patty 7373 well said!!
Let's just combine Portuguese and Spanish then!
Pornish
Wait never mind. Forget I said anything.
Edit: Does nobody get that this is a joke? I don't want to have to r/woooosh you guys
LMAO
LOL!!! 🤣
Bruh, Iberian. Not that hard
@@ProteoEuthismos r/woooosh
Proteo Euthismos mestizo not that hard the rest put down black, white, American Indian. No Mayans want to be called Iberian because they’re not from Iberia.
Great work on this video. To clarify something to viewers, on min 3:25, the Guna people are from Panamá and Colombia, not Columbia
"[...] Brazil where the predominant language is Portuguese."
Portuguese is the only language. There are groups so small in numbers that speaks other languages that they are not relevant. Also, Portuguese is the only official language of Brazil - which differs from the US that has no official language.
Oh yeah, I love getting history lessons from someone who is not latina. I wasn't surprised when she went straight to talk about LatinX 🙄🙄🙄 no one wants to be an X-man.
How do you know she not latina i seen "latinas" that look like her
@papi chulo actualment gane por que hablo espanol asi que de quien es el perdedor de nuevo .... jajajajajajaja
How do you know she isn't LATINA? Alot of Latin people look like her............
Mexico is in NORTH AMERICA BTW 🙄
Mexicans are Latino, not sure what your getting at. *It's a Latin American country.*
* Latin America doesn’t means South America, countries that are in America speaks a Latin Language are Latinos.
Mexico its in North America Geographically
To all the people here, North America=location, Latin America = group of countries where certain languages are spoken. So Mexico is a Latinamerican country in North America, it is not rocket science. And we are not confused ffs
* i mean it is in North America, but that doesn’t mean we don’t consider ourselves Latinos, it’s just geographically we are part of North America. Mexico it is also a Latin American country
Yeah, she should have just said “meso-America”
I never heard of Latinx until now
Jajajjajaja.. Parece marca de preservativo cosas que se inventan los gringos
Luckyvegan No, son los pochos que lo inventaron.
I always hesitate when filling out forms in the US. I’m from Belize. Once at the DMV I put “mestizo” and the lady looked at me then scratched it out and replaced it with Latino. I’ve always thought of the word “Latino” as a very broad term that’s both inclusive and exclusive depending on how you interpret it.
I am from Belize and I identify as Maya more especially Maya Yucatec . Seem the media wants to label us as Latino or Hispanic . I still reject the term . I prefer Maya and will always do .
Fascinating! Love this channel!
The word Latinx makes us sound like cleaning products and is unnecessary when Latino is all encompassing
... Or part of the X-Men. Marvel Studios next movie, LatinX!
We actually use the term "Spanish America" in "Spanish America". It's "Hispanoamerica" and refers to all the countries in america that used to be spanish colonies.
To be honest it seems that the term "latino" is a term originated in the USA, and that is kind of used as self ID(if at all) in latinamerican countries that had a profound cultural colonization from the USA.
Or ibero american
And also as I noticed hispanic Americans especially in south america don’t really identify themselves as a similar group with Brazilians.
sam hu , brazilians are Portuguese Americans, hispanic or Iberoamericans are Spaniards descendants. that is the big difference. Latin speaks of roman descendants. The word Latino is american invention to described anyone south from their border. I find it offensive.
My feeling about Brazil is that it is a continent on its own inside southamerica. Be it its size, its language or its unique culture.
That said, myself, as an argentinian from buenos aires, feel quite close to brazil, it may be because its our big atlantic neighbor to the north, because of mercosur, or because lots of argentinians travel to brazil every year. Or it may be that Rio or Sao Pablo are closer in distance to Buenos Aires than Lima or Bogota.
@@manuelalfredomoya iberian americans it's refer the Iberia península include spanish and portuguese Your like it or not
Thanks for the video, very interesting :)
I don't see why anyone would be surprised to learn that 'latino' comes from the ancient language 'latin'.
When I fill out any form, including the census, and it asks what group I am in, I choose the Other category and fill in the blank with American.
Not just south of the US border. Most of the USA was part of Spanish América.
@Patty 7373 Lady you are an idiot. You have no clue of history. The Spanish colonized by the thousands not the hubdreds. There were thousands of Spanish speaking Americans in the territories the USA took over. And Anglos enacted laws to diminish the use of Spanish like taking the land away. Indian Florida and Cuba? Wtf! Lady learn history. You obviously do not read real history but made up propaganda. I cannot take your comments seriously. You are absurd in your racist look on the past. Examen your self so you can answer to your God when you die and he ask what did you do for your brother as you would have done for me? Better be able to have a good response.
@Patty 7373Lady you are an idiot. Seriously. You are an aglo racist who reads Anglo history. Real history is written by the people who lived it. You know nothing about the USA. If it went for your so called sparsely populated Florida and Louisiana you wouldn't even exist today. Because France didn't help you. The money csme from Spain. The soldiers came from Spain. That's why Governor Galvez was honored with citizenship. You and your small mind have been educated with propaganda. There were already 3 generations of Americans speaking Spanish in Florida by the time the first Anglo Europeans showed up to kill the Native Americans they encountered in the northern part of continental America. But I don't expect and ignorant racist like yourself to understand that. You will answer to a God on your death bed. I hope you'll be able to answer him correctly when he asks what did you do for the least of your brethren as if you done it for me? I hope so lady.
@Patty 7373 I say facts based on acts documented by history. Anglos enslaved Africans, Anglos inacted Jim Crow, Anglos fought Civil Rights. So the truth is being a bigot? No lady. God doesn't tolerate tour kind. Who know they are bigoted and not only justify it but deny it. Lady did it hit close to home? The God part. Awwww so sorry for you. Repent lady. You are not one of God's daughters with your bigoted attitude. Your ancestors fucked up. Don't follow their example. Say sorry and become a different person. Peace lady.
@Patty 7373 History is connected lady. What you do now will affect generations to come. You are not important in the big scheme of things. But if people like you in mass keep fucking up then future generations will suffer. Change woman change. Be part of the good in history. Not the bad. It's your choice.
I really really miss your program!!!
Probably the best presentation on a complex subject that even children can understand. Brilliant! Of course, as others clarified or added in their comments, there is still so much to talk about this topic. In Bolivia alone there are over 50 native nations with their own languages and dialects. Each one would prefer to be called by their own names. The Spanish descendants are also very diverse: galegos, catalànes, sefardíes, andaluces, et al.
For the love of god, please stop using Latinx!
Stop hating on Latinx
Batman is Mexican Latinx will soon be forgotten. Stop trying to anglicize our culture.
Latinx is here to stay, ni modo 🤷🏽♂️
I’m not just saying it to hate on it. I like to think and understand things before I made an uninformed comment. If what you are trying to do is erase the gender in a word ( and I disagree even more on this), the English word Latin already has no vowel ending whatsoever. Honestly, just think about this and explain to me what’s the point on adding an X to it.
Yesss! Thank you!
They’re from Latin America they should be called Latin Americans not just Latino they occupy a big chunk of the Americas they are Americans just not Anglo
Thank you!
I love this lady! Always enjoy your info
I think that the best thing you can do when talking about concepts like Latino, is to think about them culturally and geopolitically, more than something ethnic, racial or physical. Latino are people who are native to the American nations that were formed after the colonization of Latin European countries. But these nations are as diverse as the United States, or even more. There are black latinos, white latinos, Native American latinos, Asian latinos and of course what the USA calls "Mixed Race" latinos, which includes mulatos, pardos and mestizos, which are the more stereotypical image of a latino. Latin America is not culturally or ethnically homogenous, it's big and diverse. The reason to consider it a group, is because the way these societes behave and the realities they respond to, are so similar and related between them that it forms a cultural block apart from any other region in the world. Just in the same way that the nations from Europe, Subsaharan Africa or Southeast Asia are considered part of the same group despite how big, diverse and heterogeneous they are.
Te respeto
Great video, but the Roman land of "Latium" should be pronounced "Lah-tee-yum," not "Lay-shun."
Sounds more like Lat-Zee-uhm modern pronunciation
Lat-Tee-uhm
Who cares
mserth22 , no one ask you 😉. Second thing your lack of curiosity, speak volumes about you 🤗
@@manuelalfredomoya pretending to be intelligent doesn't make you smart, it makes you pretentious.
I wonder where Belize and Guyana fits into all of this
@Wuisley García Not so much Guyana, but Belize has both Anglo (much of it Afro-Caribbean) and Latin elements.
Horvat Lovren wtf is wrong with you
As well as Suriname, since that is a Dutch colony, and their colonists have nothing to do with Latin-speaking ancestors.
Excellent host! Thanks
I like how they talk about the Latins and the Roman Empire like it’s an obscure historical fact
The world keeps sending opposing messages. Then wonders why the people are so confused. They tell us to act and treat each other as if we were all the same. Simultaneously, they quibble over what terms to define each other as. Can you all pick one and get back to me?
@nati sanz think of it like having the name James. In high school, you knew a guy named Jim that you had no respect for. Everytime someone calls you Jim, it makes you remember that jerk. So you ask people to call you James. In your mind, it distances you from a person you found distasteful. Some people choose to continue to call you Jim. How you choose to deal with those people, defines the person you are. Will you act like James, the person you want to be, or Jim, the person you detest and don't want to be like? I think many people lose sight of this when they argue semantics.
@nati sanz Even if we don't agree with what people say, they still have the right to say it. Without the fear of physical or financial threats. These people probably take the view that you are making life unduly complicated for them and they can refuse to participate. You may think he's just an obstinate jerk but you don't have all the info. Maybe the guys wife recently found a lump and your problems are looking kinda petty to him. Point is, you only know your own struggles. Assuming people act as they do intentionally to insult you or make your life harder is saying your struggles are more important than other peoples. Try and understand things from the other persons point of view is how we learn understanding, compassion , insight and fairness. I have to think, those are the qualities our ancestors would have admired and approved of. I wish for you, your best you. I work for the same myself, some days I even succeed.
This is my third census choosing "Other": Taino, I'm a Dominican-American, indigenous-White-SouthSaharanBlack, 100% Proud
Did you do a DNA test?
@@11kabula yes 10% taino
But that’s not being taino...
Wouldn’t a taino have taino culture and be genetically overwhelmingly taino?
C R correct, I’m chilean and most people have 44% indigenous blood, which doesn’t mean we’re all indigenous
Which test did you do because no one's been able to identify any specific indigenous tribes that did not survive the initial wave of colonisation And so far none of the indigenous tribes that have survived have not been active part of genetic testing
I'm from Portugal and we consider ourselves as Latinos. There's a few misinformation in this video about the Latinos amd what not.
Excellent informative presentations, thank you. I’m a Kiwi from New Zealand…kiwi being our national native bird, as well as the name of a fruit that we developed from the much smaller fruit from a Chinese vine. In Hawaii, where I lived for a while, I heard that they called the fruit, kiwis, which seamed odd to me, because thats what I am, and our bird is Lol…we call them kiwi fruit. The first colonists to NZ were Polynesians, the Maori, who discovered it in 1250 and call it Aotearoa (Land of the long white cloud). Then a Dutch guy discovered it and gave it the name New Zealand, but predominantly English people colonised it after Captain Cook landed there on three seperate voyages. I am a Pakeha, the name that Maori gave to outsiders. I’m a first generation Pakeha, born from a Scottish mother and an Australian father of English descent. I think of myself, and call myself a New Zealander…mark myself as that on the census forms. I have only a slight interest in visiting the ‘old countries’, and don’t even think of them as that. Ten formative years in Hawaii from my mid teens to my early twenties, have had a profound influence on who I am as well. It’s facinating how ethnicity and culture determine to a large extent who you are, but I also feel that everything I’ve experienced has as well. As to race, I suppose I have had the benifit of so called white privilege, in that I was unaware of any hardships that Maori might have had where I lived as a youngster, as there were only two that I was aware of in the primary (elementary) school I attended, but there were three Chinese brothers, one of who was a friend. I never thought of myself as white, and still don’t. My skin is kinda pinkish/yellow with heaps of brown freckles. I’ve never had thoughts or queries about identity. In Hawaii (America’s 50th state) my friends were of many so called races, including Hawaiian, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Pilipino, Portuguese, Haole (Pakeha), and mixtures of all these. The cultural festivals and practices of all continue, but also, in my experience, some cultures have been more marginalized than others, and people of mixed ethnicity, may have questions regarding their identity, or they may not.
Ooooh I always wondered this! Like how is this america "Latin" lmao
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We have coopted the word, it belongs to us now, get over it
Benjamin Miranda Screw u
@Horvat Lovren
The thing is that we latinos have pretty much surpased those racial divisions, unlike america and europe, the prime feature of our identity is not race (indian, black, white, mixed) but rather culture and language (and sometimes geographic regions)
The term "Latinoamericano" refers to a CULTURAL spectrum for us, while for you refers to a race
Race is pretty much relegated to a fourth or third place in our identities , race is negligible for us, bc even "pure" blacks and amerindians have adopted features of other cultures in one degree or another
@Horvat Lovren Latin America doesn't have the same racial divisions that America has, black people here identify with their countries, not their races, there's not "black culture" "cultural appropriation" or "white people" there are just colombians, brazilians, mexicans. So, your comment makes no sense, if you ask a black colombian, dominican or venezuelan if they're offended by the term "latino" they will probably have no idea why they should they be offended.
To be clear indigenous and black people have connection to the "latino" identity because it is not a racial term but a cultural one and they all live in a homogeneous latin culture. Excepting indigenous communities of course.
As a white Mexican I've never been referred as latino or hispanic but I guess It must be irritating for other latin fellas
Magnus Harrison what do they usually refer to you as? As a white-Latino myself, I always say Latino when asked about my ethnicity.
Are you also Scandinavian ethnically Magnus is actually a really common in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Iceland
In Spanish " Latino" is anybody who speaks a romance language as first language.
Thanks for this video. Accurate as always!
also the this term exists "Novo hispano" was a gentilici used in times of the viceroyalty, that term was used to describe the descendants of Spaniards, mestizos or natives who resided in the overseas kingdoms and spoke Spanish. After all, the Americans have misrepresented the history of Spain on the American continent, the Spanish empire is not the English empire, the English empires made colonies and plantations, the Spanish empire founded cities and kingdoms. Those territories were not colonies, and the citizens of those kingdoms were considered Spanish citizens of overseas.
@alex' pay high taxes? well, it seems that you are the one who needs to read more books, in those times there was a tax called "royal fifth" and as the name suggests, it means that 25% of gold, silver, etc. would go to Spain, the rest stayed in the American continent, after all, it took a lot of money to create cities, hospitals, universities, squares, businesses ... and one more thing, the positions of power were not only occupied by Spaniards, there were also many mestizos and natives occupying those posts, I'm not going to give you those names now so I don't have to lengthen my answer, but I can do it if you wish, learn this lesson, You proudly leave it at home and when you want to question the IQ of a person, try to have a minimum of knowledge of what is being talked about. Nice try, but you lie more than you talk.
if these so-called kingdoms were so happy belonging to the wonderful world of spain then why did they desire their independence the cruelty of the spainards directed to the my ancestors will always remain as a bloody stain on the pages of history by the way i am puerto rican and i do know my history very well and what was done to my ancestors in the name of god
@@lorddemon8019 haha I like how you call taxes from the Spaniards the real thing is that you never tall about the name of the taxes one of them was "La encomienda" that make purely slaves for the heavy job without paying anything and also most of the goods the natives have to eat were given in form of especies and that cause the death of the entire ethnicity just for exist for example in Costa Rica and when they make starve to death the native population they carry Africans slaves to the continent to continue the duty of hard labor, and that's why a lot of American countries have low native blood because the royalty make the crown and economy through slaves and not real progress, and that plus the illnesses caused a super decrease in native population density that take in the case of Mexico more than 200 years to recover, and all of that is in history books, we love Spain and his people we shared blood but this are facts and history.
Romances languages
Romances slavery
Romances massacre
Romances genocides.
WHERE'S the lie tho.
P.S.
Thanks for this video. Educating people is always a must.
Agreed
As one who was born and raised in New Mexico my own experiences speak to an evolution of terminology over my lifetime. Throughout my early childhood in an area where the three major ethnic groups where in a somewhat evenly divide plurality (Anglos, Spanish, and Pueblo Indian) any references to ethnicity tended toward country of origin, e.g. German, Italian, Spanish, & etc. My neighbor was an officer in L.U.L.A.C. (League of United Latin American Citizens), but we still regarded her as being Spanish and had not even heard the term Latina back then.
Why england is not in your little map about the roman empire at 1:03??