Vampire Counts vs Warriors of Chaos - Warhammer Old World (Battle Report)

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    Characters
    Vampire Count, Level 2, Dark Acolyte, Master of the Dark Arts, Supernatural, Horror, Blood Drinker, Flayed Hauberk Spiritual Vortex, Curse of Years, Raise Dead
    Master Necromancer, level 4, Lore of Necromancy, Cloak of Mist and Shadows, Lore Familiar, Raise Dead, Dwellers Below, Unquiet Spirits. Spirit Leech
    Necromancer, Level 2, lore of Necromancy, Hellish Vigour, Deadly Cabal, sceptre de Niorot
    Wight King, Shield, Talisman of protection, sword of kings
    Core
    30 Skeletons, full command
    30 Skeletons, full command
    20 Zombies, standard & musician
    20 Zombies, standard & musician
    5 Dire Wolves
    5 Dire Wolves
    Special
    Corpse cart, Level 1, Dwellers Below, Tanninulation
    23 Grave Guard, Full Command
    Rare
    1 Black Coach
    Characters
    1 x Chaos Lord: Daemon Flesh, chaos Runesword, Crown of Everlasting Conquest, enchanted shield, Favour of the Gods, Undivided
    1 x Exalted Champion: Shield, Battle Standard Bearer, Banner of the Gods, Enchanting Aura, sword of might, talisman of protection, Undivided
    1 x Sorcerer, Level 2, Favour of the Gods, Undivided
    Core
    19 x Chaos Warriors, Shields, Full Command, Undivided
    19 x Chaos Warriors, Extra Hand Weapon, Full Command, Undivided
    14 x Marauders, Full Command, Shields, Light Armour, Undivided
    Special
    6 x Chaos Trolls
    Rare
    1 x Hellcannon

КОМЕНТАРІ • 422

  • @SNBattleReports
    @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

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  • @richjohn2497
    @richjohn2497 8 місяців тому +74

    Loved the intro... swapping the 40k book and the confused look on Pardos face really made me laugh 😂

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +3

      Hahah was good wasn’t it

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +3

      He was outside reading his HH book, so I dragged him in 😂

    • @lootnscoot50
      @lootnscoot50 8 місяців тому

      Yeah that was classic, a group of us are trying to get one of our buddies to do the same!

  • @christopherclayton5500
    @christopherclayton5500 8 місяців тому +22

    This is the second game I have seen someone take a hellcannon, and the second time I have seen it roll a 1 on the misfire chart in the first turn. So thanks for not removing it, because I want to see one actually shoot. 😂

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      I know right ahha it was like - seriously?!? Haha

    • @iikkakangas2586
      @iikkakangas2586 8 місяців тому

      Why is it so expensive :(? Of all the stone throwers it has the lowest dmg of only d3. Atleast 30 points too much in it. I would take screaming skull catapult over it anyday now for 125 points with the same panic test rule.

    • @MLaak86
      @MLaak86 8 місяців тому

      No, no you really don’t... if they’re still like they were in 6th Ed, they’re BROKEN

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      It’s also a fighting monster thing haha can smash stuff up in combat 😅

    • @carlosrubinos
      @carlosrubinos 8 місяців тому +2

      I got to use the hellcannon in two games back in 6th edition. First game: rolled misfire in 1st turn and got the result where it breaks its chains and starts roaming the battlefield like a chaos spawn, unable to fire normally for the rest of the game. Second game: 1st turn shot scattered away from target. 2nd turn got misfire again and exploded. 😂 Seems it's just in their nature hahah And now they also have to pass a Ld test to begin with or misfire regardless. Very sad. Nearly 20 years and yet to see one making its points back, maybe I never will 😂

  • @stephencowie696
    @stephencowie696 8 місяців тому +39

    Remember that Regen Saves do not remove the wounds from combat resolution.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +2

      Yer we catch it later thanks 👍😊

  • @The_Captain40k
    @The_Captain40k 8 місяців тому +27

    YES Legacy factions! We need to make this a thing so GW get the message! Plus all the factions are awesome and the rules are surprisingly comprehensive!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      ❤️

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +4

      100% agree we’ll play them like any other faction for sure ❤

    • @robnoel9306
      @robnoel9306 8 місяців тому

      Get teal, once slaes slow down on these armies, they will introduce the rest "at fan's request". And milk it all the OLD minis as much as they can.

    • @newtpondskipper
      @newtpondskipper 6 місяців тому

      Dogs of War are the dream end goal!

  • @alecsa4568
    @alecsa4568 8 місяців тому +19

    Slight mistake at 1:12:00 I think you actually can regenerate zombies past their starting number since they have their 'newly dead' special rule

    • @bitharne
      @bitharne 8 місяців тому +1

      This; you can cast it on a unit that has never been hurt (you always start pumping them turn 1)

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      I did say comment below if you think different and you did! Thanks 😊 haha so question for you guys, why do you think you can increase them when they haven’t lost any models? Reason I say is I know there is the ‘Newly Dead’ rule but the Invocation of Nehek says you use it to ‘recover lost wounds’
      In the case on the time stamp scenario those zombies had not lost any wounds, if they lost 1 for example and I used invocation and rolled higher than 1 (obvs) then I could add more than 1 because of the ‘Newly Dead’ rule - that’s how I read it anyway
      Let me know! Thanks 😊

    • @TheDiackon
      @TheDiackon 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc literally You are right but logic says it makes no sense to wait till You lose 1 zombie to raise beyond the starting size. I wonder if they'll do a FAQ or errata to solve this.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      @@TheDiackon yer totally agree I think the spirit of it is you can raise more zombies straight away and needs to be FAQ’d - plus that’s cool, rather than waiting for one wound as you say! haha it’s a shame you cannot ‘raise dead’ and then hit them with the invocation ability at the same time - as you do that before conjuration spells 🙃 especially as they’ve changed the raise dead to 2D3 when it was D6+4 in our version of the pdf they sent! Means what like 4 zombies on average for a raise dead?

    • @TheDiackon
      @TheDiackon 8 місяців тому +1

      @sn_dc well if You put them where they cant be hurt You can buff them before they charge rear/side in the next turn. If You need just a moving fence for a charge to slow down better to have less than more as You saw in this game ;)

  • @derFredausdemVideo
    @derFredausdemVideo 8 місяців тому +14

    Great Batrep!
    One nitpick: Units can't be deeper then wide normaly. So the Skeletons either need to be wider or they are in march stance all game
    Also, the Ap-1 for Warriors of Chaos only affects singular hand weapons

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!! Yer I realised the Skeletons after the game - just so hard wired to place them like that - didn’t even think!
      I think we do the regeneration correct but may have missed a combat res with a combat or two?

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Im sure we were doing the regeneration correctly were we not? Where is the bit about the Singular hand weapons

    • @derFredausdemVideo
      @derFredausdemVideo 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc the regeneration bit you did catch yourself later in the battlereport, so I edited my post. I did not notice any major hiccups otherwise.

    • @derFredausdemVideo
      @derFredausdemVideo 8 місяців тому +2

      @@SNBattleReports you didn't in the first round of combat of the game, but you did catch it later in the game.
      About the Ensorcelled weapons:
      Page 81 in Ravening Hordes
      Ensorcelled Weapons
      Many of the Chaos gods’ chosen champions brandish ensorcelled
      weapons, their heavy, black blades inscribed with dark runes that
      glow with infernal power.
      A hand weapon carried by a model with this special rule has
      the Magical Attacks special rule and an Armour Piercing
      characteristic of -1.
      Note that this special rule only applies to a single, non-magical
      hand weapon and does not apply to a model’s mount (should it
      have one). If the model is using two hand weapons or any other sort
      of weapon, this special rule ceases to apply

    • @derFredausdemVideo
      @derFredausdemVideo 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SNBattleReports you did catch yourself during the game.
      About the Ensorcelled Weapons, they're on Page 81 in Ravening Hordes

  • @Breland1976
    @Breland1976 8 місяців тому +14

    Love that your going through a bunch of different army's. Both army's look so good ranked up.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Glad you are enjoying that

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for that, genuinely appreciated haha it’s a bit of a brain melt at times but I think worth it

  • @shmabadu
    @shmabadu 8 місяців тому +6

    I love how everyone seems to be bringing decades old models back to the table. My friend has metal Waywatchers and Wardancers and can’t wait to see them back on the tabletop.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Agreed it’s awesome to see peoples old collections come back out! 😊

  • @lordfateweaver1851
    @lordfateweaver1851 8 місяців тому +1

    very fortunate to also own that chaos sorcerer :) he came with a familiar on a seperate base. my version is currently waiting on his base to be painted for old world :)

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Nice!! Yes I have that little snake face familiar too, somewhere haha great model that still holds up today!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Oh nice!

  • @SNBattleReports
    @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +13

    NOTE ON RAISE DEAD SPELL: The PDF of the rules we were given for Vampire Counts at the time of recording had the ‘Raise Dead’ spell providing D6+4 Zombies, which is seems to have been changed since the release to 2D3 👍

    • @voncrumb
      @voncrumb 8 місяців тому

      thanks for this, any other changes??

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      @@voncrumbnot on first glance, but I’ll need to double check haha

    • @nikolas13able
      @nikolas13able 8 місяців тому +2

      also they are skirmishers which is great if you want to screen your units from more than one charge. Anyway, such a good battrep. Mr Pardo, welcome to the square based world!

    • @voncrumb
      @voncrumb 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc awesome thanks heaps for your response, really interested to know about this!

  • @thatsedzoonth
    @thatsedzoonth 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello! Great video! At 41:15 you can’t use the leadership bounce from war band to restrain after combat. The lord is only LD 9 so the test was failed. Keep up the great content!!

  • @HughMurphy395
    @HughMurphy395 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi guys, keep in mind that if your opponent has to close the door when you charge, it counts as a disordered charge charge and you don't get your bonuses to charge.

  • @tsarovich2394
    @tsarovich2394 8 місяців тому +8

    I am ripping all my Soulblight Gravelord models off their bases ASAP. Long live Vampire Counts!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Long live the Von Carsteins!

  • @darkshadowrift7652
    @darkshadowrift7652 8 місяців тому +1

    For bringing a vampire in the style of Necrarch, you immediately got my 'like'.
    Necrarchs are my ABSOLUTE favorite characters, bar none, in Warhammer fantasy. I'm so sad we can't be level 4 anymore.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much! And totally agree!!! You’re telling me a Necrach Vampire can’t be as powerful as a Master Necromancer?!

  • @williampounds5191
    @williampounds5191 8 місяців тому +1

    Great game, it was looking like it could've been dicey for chaos right up until they got into combat. It really shows how powerful combat resolution is in this game honestly. That did a TON of extra damage.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      I think I couldn’t have taken the game if I wasn’t an idiot at deployment! All my skeleton warriors stuck on that one flank! I will get my revenge! 😅

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Thanks Champ!

  • @konatelassina5301
    @konatelassina5301 8 місяців тому +1

    45:00 Raise dead only raises 2D3 Zombies, not 1D6 + caster level. AND they have the "skirmishers" rule, not "open" or "closed order", so the zombies will form up on their opponent instead of vice-versa on a charge.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      I made a sticky note in the comments section just now for this, the PDF we were sent had D6+4 in the Raise Dead spell. Just checked the public version and they’ve changed it to 2D3! So bit of a nerf?

  • @samh4987
    @samh4987 8 місяців тому +1

    Loving the old world content DC. Your positivity is infectious as always!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much ❤️

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Sam! Haha more to come buddy! Recording Wood Elves vs Beastmen today 😊

  • @RyanF1313
    @RyanF1313 8 місяців тому +8

    I like that we get the armies in the video AND in the description. 👍💪

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Just trying to help out fellow gamers! ❤

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Thanks

  • @Explosive6
    @Explosive6 8 місяців тому

    Would love to see more Old World battles. What size table are you playing on and who makes these mats that you're playing on?

  • @crusader2410
    @crusader2410 8 місяців тому

    Great report guys! Looking forward to seeing more Old World battle reports :)

  • @j_scriv5686
    @j_scriv5686 8 місяців тому

    That was fun to watch! Thanks for putting it together and making it happen. Pretty sure I just decided that Chaos is going to be my faction!

  • @bobmylan9434
    @bobmylan9434 8 місяців тому +3

    Greaaat I was waiting for this one soooo much ! Thanks 🎉 a lot!!!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      You're welcome 😊

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much! ❤❤ hope you enjoy

  • @MrGreed070
    @MrGreed070 7 місяців тому

    Hello, I am Jan. You should roll for gift of Chaos at the start of each turn, I believe as they stack and 5 out of 6 are awesome. Nice reports guyz, keep 'm comming.
    Also Chaos Lord name: Thorgal Thronetaker! Also at 104 he had 3 more Combat res, because regen wounds count!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  7 місяців тому +1

      You don’t have to roll only if you want 😊
      Thanks for watching Jan

    • @MrGreed070
      @MrGreed070 7 місяців тому

      True, but 5 out of 6 is improvements and 50% are permanent@@SNBattleReports

  • @LanternBearer
    @LanternBearer 8 місяців тому +3

    Nice one. Looking forward to this!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Hope you enjoy it!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Let me know what you think! 😊

  • @Galwayshade
    @Galwayshade 8 місяців тому +1

    Good battle report! I must admit the Hellcannon seemed to do very little here. But once the Chaos Warriors got going, they really did some damage.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Agreed I think the cannon can be swingy but get a good hit off on to an elite unit and you’re mulching them!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Also thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it ❤

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I agree

  • @thepastamericadream
    @thepastamericadream 8 місяців тому +7

    Hello! Quick note the chaos sorcerer has a larger base size than marauders. It can still join them but must be to the side instead of in the unit fully. Also, the hellcannon is a large target and can draw LoS over other units. Keep up the videos!

  • @evilmrmole3747
    @evilmrmole3747 8 місяців тому

    brilliant stuff old world is already off to a great start with everyone doing videos, great stuff well done gents

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      It sure is

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks so much! Glad you’re enjoying them 😊

  • @bitharne
    @bitharne 8 місяців тому

    Wights have Cleaving Blow; so the 6 armor bane doesn't even matter you just blow through his armor completely. It also ignores regen. Baby Killing Blow; of which Wight Characters have.

  • @alvalek7724
    @alvalek7724 8 місяців тому +1

    You had him read the spell (spirit leech) out loud and promptly ignored the first words out of his mouth lol "until the end of THIS turn" not round. So the trolls didn't fail stupidity on chaos turn 3 and should have been free to charge.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      I guess as the book says stupidity is contagious 😂

  • @bitharne
    @bitharne 8 місяців тому +2

    @1:43:35 You added two ranks of dice to the troll combat while saying only one. Very big swing since trolls would lose due to musician. Careful with the dice throws my friend! Fun stuff.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Oh did we! Yer small things like that make a difference and thanks glad you enjoyed! 😊

  • @Kilgore201
    @Kilgore201 8 місяців тому +1

    This was what I was waiting for!

  • @henrykomansky9352
    @henrykomansky9352 8 місяців тому +2

    Great job. Is there a good place for the movement trays?

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      El Gante Elegante

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Yer Google Elegante Gante it’s a Spanish company and they’ve done some cool ones - also 3d prints online people are making them already 😊

    • @henrykomansky9352
      @henrykomansky9352 8 місяців тому

      TY spanish site looks cool. Im looking for the wood / mdf/ ones if possible

  • @MacMuskelAttack
    @MacMuskelAttack 8 місяців тому +2

    Love the batrep, and also cool dude you're playing with =) Btw, does curse of years really hit all the stats? Isnt it one of them? Cheers!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks so much! And just checked and it does affect all three of the stats! It’s a strong spell 💪

  • @jolamber
    @jolamber 8 місяців тому +1

    Dude rolled two ones on gaze of gods and a misfire and turn 1. Throw those dice out haha

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Spoiler Alert!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Man it was horrific but so funny ahaha

  • @boredsoim01
    @boredsoim01 7 місяців тому +1

    Zombie that save with the regen saves still count as killed for the purpose of combat resolution, so it would have been 7 killed instead of 4.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  7 місяців тому

      Correct! We pick that up a bit further along

  • @julvatn
    @julvatn 8 місяців тому

    Why didnt the chaos warriors follow when the zombies fell back? Was there a toddler plan, magic item, special rule or did you just forget to do the most obvius manouver in the game?

  • @newtpondskipper
    @newtpondskipper 6 місяців тому +1

    Love the games! You do look rather sad to not have your Imperial Fists on the table that being said.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  6 місяців тому +1

      Haha the fists will be back with vengeance

  • @voncrumb
    @voncrumb 8 місяців тому +1

    Massive, thanks fellas!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thank you for the comment! Hope you enjoyed 😊

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Our pleasure!

  • @firstamericanmanga6827
    @firstamericanmanga6827 8 місяців тому +1

    loving the old world battle reps! im new to warhammer fantasy just put together a chaos warriors army. cant wait to play. learning from watching your videos.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      That’s awesome!! What you taking in your Chaos Warriors army? Decided on a colour scheme?

    • @firstamericanmanga6827
      @firstamericanmanga6827 8 місяців тому +1

      @@sn_dc going for the classic scheme. red cape black armor. all evil. basing wise probably something light to contrast with the darker colors on the model.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      @@firstamericanmanga6827 I was gunna go classic but as you can see I went for a different take with the yellow and brass!

  • @AndreasRugtvedNeumann
    @AndreasRugtvedNeumann 8 місяців тому +1

    Your voices are so similar. Sounds like one person arguing with himself all the time 🙂 Please, one of you, try with another dialect or high pitch voice the next time :-). I am just joking.
    Great video guys.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha! I’ll put on a more welshie accent next time! Or go cartoon cockney orc 😂 glad you enjoyed!
      Also, it is true we always argue like twins 😅

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      I always am told I have a welsh accent

  • @peters6345
    @peters6345 8 місяців тому +1

    Pardo you shouldn't have tried to play chaos XD
    Oh man you guys took back the cannon self destruct? Dang. I love seeing chaos trip over it's own feet

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +2

      The Chaos Gods really don’t like Pardo haha 😅

  • @7thDesertRat
    @7thDesertRat 8 місяців тому +3

    keep it up guys! more Old World, it does not matter if your brain hurts we need more ToW! great job

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Haha thanks buddy

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +2

      Haha more coming! Wood Elves next 😅

    • @7thDesertRat
      @7thDesertRat 8 місяців тому

      oh good my logpile is running low @@sn_dc

  • @GrimDan1789
    @GrimDan1789 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello, Hi, Isn't the Hellcannon a Large Target and therefore can see over other units?

  • @ComandaKronikk
    @ComandaKronikk 2 місяці тому +1

    Pardo looking jacked

  • @00Kuja00
    @00Kuja00 8 місяців тому +1

    I have an old VC army with around 130 Zombies. Around 100 that are converted so every one is unique. I also love necrarch so have been thinking along the same line as you. I even have the same models. ^^*

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      We are of the same mind! Haha more Zombies more! Cool idea to make each one unique that’s serious kudos points if you! 😊

  • @MissJunksBits
    @MissJunksBits 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video! Always love hearing the different British accents :)

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      I’ll try put some other accents on for you next time! 😂 I’m thinking Scottish then maybe London cockney! Hehe thanks for watching and the comment! 😊

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Thank you! 😃

  • @geeksworkshop
    @geeksworkshop 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello! Your skeletons were too long and not wide enough to be in closed order and couldn't claim rank bonus :) Loving the games thanks

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Hey!! 😊

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Yes I deployed them like I was playing WHFB, just an old habit I need to change! 😅 glad you’re enjoying the report! ❤

  • @DS_painting
    @DS_painting 8 місяців тому +1

    Another great battle report, especially for learning and understanding the new rules! Thanks for doing these. Plus the two armies look amazing again. I think the TOW will be an awesome addition to your channel

  • @James80312
    @James80312 8 місяців тому +4

    Swapping the heresy book for old world was a good bit :D

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Glad you liked that 😆

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Haha we hoped people would have a good chuckle

  • @abbadonslostarms-kbd1393
    @abbadonslostarms-kbd1393 7 місяців тому

    My biggest annoyance with thos isn't the sigmar hammer, mk6, under armour ribbing or ipad running 3d Skype.
    It's that they chose to make a poor version of an easily kitbashed consul instead of the missing legion praetors or Warsmith etc

  • @HibikoDaishi
    @HibikoDaishi 8 місяців тому

    36:27 i believe during the charge youre allowed to wheel through your own units now as long as your units dont overlap at the end. I think those chaos warriors could have fit past the other unit of chaos warriors to meet the dogs rather thab the dogs having to close to them. Also i think there is something about it you cant close to the enemy you charged then it becomes a disordered charge, but not sure if thats only for terrain/not a high enough charge roll

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for that info! Did he charge both units into the dead doggos? I can’t remember 😅

    • @HibikoDaishi
      @HibikoDaishi 8 місяців тому +1

      @@sn_dc just the one, not sure it really would have changed anything in this instance, but it does mean you can use small units like the dogs to redirect units sometimes, to set yourself up for a flank charge if they don't manage to reform, or to change their viable charge targets on their next turn

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      @@HibikoDaishi thanks for that! It’s good bits of info for next time! 🙂 small additions like that are important for sure!

  • @liangweihao7932
    @liangweihao7932 7 місяців тому

    Buying Enchanted shield and Talisman of Protection for your Chaos characters who already have Chaos Armour (5+)?

  • @TheMaltesefalcon204
    @TheMaltesefalcon204 8 місяців тому

    Keep forgetting you people are in Gibraltar, which is saying something because it's bloody smaller then Malta.

  • @marcuscribbhistory
    @marcuscribbhistory 8 місяців тому +3

    For regeneration & combat resolution, when in the offical demo game (Warhammer Channel) I believe that they counted the killed undead towards the combat resolution, and THEN they come back. Which is slightly different to here where the rolling for regeneration isn't counted. Might be worth a check? 1:05:58

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      We do count the regeneration but maybe not said correctly?

    • @marcuscribbhistory
      @marcuscribbhistory 8 місяців тому

      @SNBattleReports I thought you didn't, as it wasn't on the combat res... but sorry if wrong. Loving the Old World Games, thank you, great games, well edited, nice gamers. Hope you do more 😃

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words! I think we maybe have done the same thing in a round about way - makes sense to put them aside then add them back later haha 😊

    • @marcuscribbhistory
      @marcuscribbhistory 8 місяців тому +1

      @sn_dc sounds good, and it is only an observation, back when I used to play 7th edition we barely counted combat resolution if it was close & carried on cutting away at each other 😬 It is great to see Warhammer "back" as I wanted to get back into the hobby about the time AOS came out & then missed the HH arc & range. Absolutely great, new subscriber now & here for the Old World, best of luck, love it so far.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      @@marcuscribbhistory epic to here! And we’ve had similar hobby journeys it seems! Next report is Wood Elves vs Beastmen!

  • @raphie8488
    @raphie8488 8 місяців тому +2

    You are not perfect and thats why I love your reports. Loved the intro btw.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      What do you mean by not perfect?

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      We love you Raphie! ❤ our main aim is to have fun! 😊

    • @raphie8488
      @raphie8488 8 місяців тому

      You make mistakes andyou have to check the rules. No one is perfect. Reminds me of myself.

    • @raphie8488
      @raphie8488 8 місяців тому

      My clinical depression is starring angrily at me right now, I get loved. Something is going wrong.
      Fun should always be the main goal. Never got it why people must win at all costs to have "fun". Is that even fun for them? Or is it just the obsession to win?

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Ahh yes i don't think anybody has ever got everything correct in a game before lol@@raphie8488

  • @Isaac-zq8vt
    @Isaac-zq8vt 7 місяців тому

    I want a Vampire Count army for Old world.. but it's worst? being a legacy army...Thanks!

  • @MirelurkCakes
    @MirelurkCakes 8 місяців тому +1

    Where did you get those little charge tokens from?

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Those are from a company called Gale Force 9 I believe! It was a good number of years ago now

  • @Halinn
    @Halinn 8 місяців тому +1

    Diabolic Splendor only gives -1 to shooting against the unit, not combat

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Did we do it in combat?

    • @Halinn
      @Halinn 8 місяців тому

      @@SNBattleReports during a challenge yeah

  • @MrClassicor
    @MrClassicor 8 місяців тому +1

    *Love* that Sorcerer model. I turned mine into a Necrarch Vampire with a hump showing through his frayed robes. I had all forgotten about it; I should really dig up that old mini now that the VC list has dropped :D

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Yer do it! Would love to see the conversation you did sounds great

    • @MrClassicor
      @MrClassicor 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc well, so far I've found the sword and staff I gave him in two different boxes, so the body is bound to turn up soon... 😅

  • @Krackalackle
    @Krackalackle 8 місяців тому +1

    Great batrep! Where did you get the various effect/charge/banner tokens?

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks! So the tokens are from Gale Force 9 - it was many years ago now so I’m not sure if they’re still around?

  • @kenroth87
    @kenroth87 7 місяців тому

    with the invocatoin of nehek the zombies have the newly dead rule which allows the unit to be bigger than its starting size :)

  • @raskine
    @raskine 8 місяців тому +1

    What is the epic music playing quietly in the background?

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      That’s a question for Pardo he edited the video! Drop me a message in the Discord 😊

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Will need to double check

  • @Ethnarches
    @Ethnarches 8 місяців тому +1

    Love the 5th ed Vampire Counts models you had mixed in there, that was my first fantasy army back in 1999 when they came out. Now slowly collecting an army of just models from that period, lots of hard to find models as some of them were only sold for a couple of years.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      That’s so cool, love that idea! I’m a big fan of the older models, probably just my nostalgia hitting home - I need to get my hands on Zacharias the Everliving next!

    • @Ethnarches
      @Ethnarches 8 місяців тому +1

      @@sn_dc Sure, some of it is nostalgia, but many of the older models are really great. Being hand sculpted gives them a quality of their own that the modern ones lack and even if it's just nostalgia, doesn't matter why we like them. :)
      Good luck finding Zacharias for a reasonable price! That's a whopper.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Ethnarches totally agree, the Vampire on this report is one of my favourite GW sculpts ever made! Some of the older models have real impact and depth to them over the newer stuff. And thanks I’ll get my hands on him eventually haha

  • @GypsyDaenger
    @GypsyDaenger 8 місяців тому +1

    Lmao hell cannon blowing up is very much like losing a Spartan turn one. Glad to see Pardo enjoying himself.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Yer his brain hurt after but the next day he told me he loved it! So there is hope for him yet haha 😊

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      🙌🏽

  • @kyleforbes3063
    @kyleforbes3063 8 місяців тому +2

    The beginning of you swapping out rule books was so funny!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      🙌🏽 😂

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Haha it’s time he tried Old World!

  • @mattwoor4610
    @mattwoor4610 8 місяців тому +1

    Proceeds to remind us of the Runesmith/wizard debacle… *opens the BIG book again and underlines the previous grudge* Kragg the Grim will be unimpressed… 😂

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂 noooo I thought I’d save from you lot in this report

    • @mattwoor4610
      @mattwoor4610 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc No-one is safe from the Grudgebearer... you will have to play dwarfs again I'm afraid DC, and win a battle over either the Greenskins or the honourless pointy-eared high-elves to have the grudge erased... or you could shave your head... dye it orange... you know the routine... 😃

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      😂

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      @@mattwoor4610 haha! Ok sounds like a deal to me, a rematch to restore my honour and get my name out of the book!

  • @mikaelcroy5470
    @mikaelcroy5470 7 місяців тому

    Marauders have shield wall and could have given ground instead of falling back in good order

  • @Cylindryk
    @Cylindryk 8 місяців тому

    You Chaos Warriors Sorcerer has wrong base - he should be on 30x30, while Marauders are on 25x25 - so he can't fit nicely in unit, and should be placed beside them.

  • @Angeloflight444
    @Angeloflight444 8 місяців тому

    Great game guys!!! Loved your enthusiasm! 😃
    I wonder if it would have been any different if you had removed the hellcanon but I don’t think so really..

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Possibly! But again it hardly did anything at all!

  • @ameliaclark1917
    @ameliaclark1917 8 місяців тому

    I refuse to call it the Tintinbulation thing. Its an Unholy Lodestone!

  • @Vikingeek
    @Vikingeek 7 місяців тому

    Something I've seen being done differently in various videos with undead and their crumbling as part of combat resolution - is that I've seen some channels taking regen wounds on the crumble and others not... Something I'm going to have to look into in the book tonight I feel!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  7 місяців тому +1

      We do it right here we catch it after the first combat

  • @carminebattista3249
    @carminebattista3249 8 місяців тому +1

    Rad my guys love the content!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      More on the way, Wood Elves next!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Thanks!!!

  • @wiggy357
    @wiggy357 8 місяців тому +1

    Nice work guys! Glad to see Pardo can only roll with Rainbow dice 🤪

  • @leichtmeister
    @leichtmeister 8 місяців тому +1

    Like for interesting terrain setup :)

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks! It’s a burnt down Vampire Manor House! 😊

  • @DarkKnightCuron
    @DarkKnightCuron 8 місяців тому +1

    Amazing battle report, thank you! Looking forward to more! Where did you get the movement trays?

  • @jacob9327
    @jacob9327 8 місяців тому +1

    Pardo seems like a cool guy.

  • @fboylan16
    @fboylan16 8 місяців тому +1

    As you are we once were...As we are you will be!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      ❤❤❤

  • @daveperks8922
    @daveperks8922 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the great content, Table looks amazing! where are the buildings from?

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Spanish company we bought from
      About 8 years ago now sadly they are now longer a business

    • @daveperks8922
      @daveperks8922 8 місяців тому

      That's a shame, would have loved a set!

  • @CatachanMan27
    @CatachanMan27 8 місяців тому +1

    Legacy army love! Can't wait to see more

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      More coming for sure! I’m sorting out a Skaven army to use soon

  • @savebeautyalone
    @savebeautyalone 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      You're welcome!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thank you for that golden shield!

  • @MarkAndTerra
    @MarkAndTerra 8 місяців тому

    @1:04:49 Remember that Wounds saved by Regen still count against you in Combat Resolution.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Yes we did that. Thanks anyway and hope you enjoy the game

  • @dracodelcaosherrera6861
    @dracodelcaosherrera6861 8 місяців тому

    AHAHAH 1:37 here you catch me

  • @thatsedzoonth
    @thatsedzoonth 8 місяців тому

    It might be worth deploying the warriors in a 7 wide formation. They can put out a lot of damage.

  • @await-rescue
    @await-rescue 8 місяців тому

    You wouldn't have know at the time but the FAQ states that if you refuse a challenge with a wizard you lose the benefits of any spells affecting the unit.
    "Q: If a Wizard declines a challenge and retires from combat,
    does their unit lose the benefits of any range ‘Self ’ spells that
    Wizard has cast?
    A: Yes."

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Oooooooo that’s interesting!! 😊 thanks for that bud 👍

  • @00Kuja00
    @00Kuja00 8 місяців тому +1

    If I understand it correctly VC's BsB can re-roll ANY failed Leadership test, which includes Invocation of Nehek. I first thought it was weird Counts only had Ld 8, but I guess that make sense now. :)

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      Ooooo great point!! Didn’t think of that - and her Ld 8 did surprise me

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc Neither did I at first, but it says more or less "change the BsB rules to these ones". GW can be sneaky with rules sometimes.

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc Btw Raised Zombies are Skirmishes. :)

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      @@00Kuja00and 2d3 now! Which was different in our version of the pdf! Sneaky!
      And now I’ll have to get a BSB for sure! Thrall or Wight Lord? Or both? Haha

    • @00Kuja00
      @00Kuja00 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc Feels like the Wight King is VC's version of a Tomb King. I was thinking of a unit of Grave Guards with a combat monster of a Wight King, buffing the unit with that magical helmet and a Wight Lord holding a nasty BsB banner. Then having a "necrarch" vampire on a Abyssal Terror flying around and being a magical-combat pain.^^

  • @michaelkarpstein1599
    @michaelkarpstein1599 7 місяців тому

    The warriors of chaos paint scheme is awesome do you have any pictures posted anywhere by chance?

  • @bobbyfillier7931
    @bobbyfillier7931 8 місяців тому

    @SNBattleReports Mr. Pardo, how do you like The Old World? very interested in your thoughts as you aren't a fantasy player!

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Well i was a fantasy player for about 12 years so it was very exciting to get back but had to get my head around all the 30k and 40k rules lol I enjoyed it alot and im sure i will enjoy it more when i dont need to check every rule i use haha. I really like the changers

    • @bobbyfillier7931
      @bobbyfillier7931 8 місяців тому

      @@SNBattleReports oh! my apologies, i didnt realize! its fantastic to see that you enjoy the ruleset!

  • @ФедяКрюков-в6ь
    @ФедяКрюков-в6ь 8 місяців тому

    Are you aware your skeleton warriors are in a marching column formation rather than proper close order?

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому +1

      I am indeed aware haha noticed after the game, it’s just old WHFB stuck in my head when I deployed them 😅

  • @DrVitoti
    @DrVitoti 8 місяців тому

    wounds regenerated count for combat res... at 1:05:00 you should have lost by 3 more

  • @julvatn
    @julvatn 8 місяців тому

    I think you miscounted the first combat - you suffered 6 Wounds in total and regenned 1, wich would leave none left to strike back or crumble.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      We did we get it right later

    • @julvatn
      @julvatn 8 місяців тому

      @@SNBattleReports result would have been the same 🧛

  • @patvanderreest7416
    @patvanderreest7416 6 місяців тому

    I love the mat you are using for the terrain base. Do you have a link on where to get them?

  • @SamFisk
    @SamFisk 8 місяців тому

    Love your battle reports 😊 one minor comment though.. you often say "I'll give ground two inches" and then only move one 😂 (more often than not) it probably would make a decent difference, even in your favour with these locked up battle lines. :)

    • @SamFisk
      @SamFisk 8 місяців тому

      Haha just got to the point in the video where you guys acknowledge it. Yet still only adjusted to approximately 1" 😅

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому +1

      Did you measure the screen? Hahaha
      Glad you are loving the game champ!

    • @SamFisk
      @SamFisk 8 місяців тому

      @@SNBattleReports can see from the base sizes :)

  • @benkochskamper3092
    @benkochskamper3092 8 місяців тому +1

    Thumbs up for some terrain in the middle 😉

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Haha we did as the unruly mob demands! Haha 😂

    • @benkochskamper3092
      @benkochskamper3092 8 місяців тому

      @@sn_dc haha makes for a much better game when you have buildings, forests and ruins to fight over or around, keep up the great work.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Thanks 👍

  • @TobasscoJelly
    @TobasscoJelly 8 місяців тому +1

    Yes to these battle reports! Top content!

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for the kind words!! ❤ glad your enjoying them 😊

  • @saxonshuffle5502
    @saxonshuffle5502 8 місяців тому

    1:08:27 Regeneration was changed from 8th edition - wounds saved by Regeneration now count for the purposes of calculating combat results (even if the wounds are not actually "inflicted"), so those zombies would have lost by 6 and crumbled by 5 thanks to the Corpse Cart.

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Yeah we do that later on catch it a bit after the first combat

  • @kotson666
    @kotson666 8 місяців тому

    If I were chaos player i would skip first fight warriors against wolves and removed them without rolling

    • @SNBattleReports
      @SNBattleReports  8 місяців тому

      Yeah for sure 😆

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      I wanted him to have fun rolling haha

  • @Terayob
    @Terayob 8 місяців тому

    Hello! Very good video and very nice to see this game grow! Lets hope GW sees and hear our wails.. New sub here btw :D
    Edit: had to comment how nice the ambient feels and how good of a harm feeling, you guys, transmit. (sorry for my bad english, not my mother tongue)

  • @DerOrk
    @DerOrk 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello.

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Hello! ❤

  • @errata2412
    @errata2412 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello

    • @sn_dc
      @sn_dc 8 місяців тому

      Hello! ❤