Is He Another Amber... Or A Gem? | Lyney Pre-Release Analysis

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @Zajef77
    @Zajef77  Рік тому +72

    Just wanna add something about Slingshot for him, I talked about it while making the weapon sheet on stream but forgor to mention it again during the recording:
    Based on Slingshot wording, I assume you won't get the +60% CA DMG% on the Hat portion of his damage, and you'll instead get the -10%. With this assumption, even if you manage to work around Slingshot's CRIT Rate and still manage to not overcap on CRIT, it's not particularly good compared to the other F2P options. However, if this assumption is wrong and you do get the +60% CA DMG% on the hat, then Slingshot performs similarly to Viridescent Hunt without accounting for its grouping passive, making it a fairly good F2P option if you manage to balance your CRIT ratio.
    I don't think this scenario is likely though, so just keep that in mind

    • @TheNman_Val
      @TheNman_Val Рік тому

      MFW sexy femboy is bad :'(
      also 1st :)

    • @nagontingingenhar
      @nagontingingenhar Рік тому +2

      Ratio

    • @deRykcihC
      @deRykcihC Рік тому +1

      ​@@TheNman_Valthis doesn't age well

    • @TheNman_Val
      @TheNman_Val Рік тому

      @deRykcihC in my eyes he's still bad

    • @deRykcihC
      @deRykcihC Рік тому

      @@TheNman_Val why? he got the dmg, easy to play, easy to build, don't have a significant downside

  • @Koko-sn9in
    @Koko-sn9in Рік тому +1072

    So basically, the weapon banner for Lyney is literally perfect, his two best weapons are on the banner, so whichever you get, you got an amazing weapon for him

    • @sweetieswifey627
      @sweetieswifey627 Рік тому +33

      Damn that's true

    • @pepelarrza3877
      @pepelarrza3877 Рік тому +345

      Cant wait to get Skyward pride 😍😍😍

    • @Linh_Tran-49
      @Linh_Tran-49 Рік тому +202

      Surely we won’t lose a 75:25 right?
      Right?

    • @xenon4888
      @xenon4888 Рік тому +125

      @@Linh_Tran-49 here your aquila favonia, enjoy

    • @kyyyann
      @kyyyann Рік тому +9

      @@pepelarrza3877hey at least my venti got an upgrade lol

  • @Everdistance
    @Everdistance Рік тому +584

    Lyney seems like a good character who's specifically meant to be really easy to build. He wants a mono pyro team. Xiangling and Lynette are free and they're giving a free bennett in 4.0. He has crit rate ascension and a crit rate artifact set so he doesnt have to worry as much about perfect crit value rolls, he can just focus on atk and crit damage.
    I kind of like it as a design space. He's good enough to compete even if you are an endgame player but he's also very straightforward to build.

    • @Sarvitar0902
      @Sarvitar0902 Рік тому +53

      I also does agree with him being good character but
      Artifact wise it would be verrry hard to farm since you would not want to overcap the crit rate mean while EM is useless for him so tow more less useful stats to get and 5cd rolls are quite hard I mean so hard to come by probability wise it's worst

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- Рік тому +10

      HE HAS CRIT RATE ASCENSION?
      I'm so happy 😭😭😭

    • @Sarvitar0902
      @Sarvitar0902 Рік тому +5

      Cdmg would be more great since his arti is also cr

    • @miggymigz9242
      @miggymigz9242 Рік тому +30

      Sadly, Lynette is not good for him since you can't fully make use of her passive if you don't have 4 different elements in the team.

    • @seekeroftruth9454
      @seekeroftruth9454 Рік тому +5

      @@Sarvitar0902his weapon has crit dmg so his ascension stat has to have crit rate
      it’s always opposite, if the character has CDMG ascension, then he has a Crit Rate weapon and if he has a Crit dmg weapon, he’ll have a crit rate ascension

  • @diogoschneider2479
    @diogoschneider2479 Рік тому +442

    Lyney is the first character that will have acces to level 14 normal attacks if you use childe with him

    • @thegreatBarbossa
      @thegreatBarbossa Рік тому +65

      freminet too since he also has a constellation for normal attacks.

    • @lostblueboy
      @lostblueboy Рік тому +172

      @@thegreatBarbossa yep you are right butttt....lyney is released first, no one can get freminet until 21 days after fontaine release. So lyney isss the FIRST character to do this.

    • @caseyimiller
      @caseyimiller Рік тому +8

      noone using childe there xD childe is the direct upgrade of that slot

    • @lostblueboy
      @lostblueboy Рік тому +130

      @@caseyimiller never said it was optimal, just a cool observation.

    • @denki2558
      @denki2558 Рік тому +54

      There are events that grant characters +1 talent levels. We can maybe finally see the max level 15 in game some time.

  • @BiscuitGeoff
    @BiscuitGeoff Рік тому +12

    Grin-malkin is a Shakespeare reference.
    ‘Grimalkin’ is a witch’s familiar cat in Macbeth.

  • @tsyganko
    @tsyganko Рік тому +98

    Despite the fact that Lyney and Blade have a different personalities, it amuses me greatly that the VA has voiced two mihoyo characters with hp loss mechanics

  • @pongyyyy
    @pongyyyy Рік тому +959

    THE TIME HAS FINALLY COME, Dehya might actually be a solid option for lyney

    • @wiziek
      @wiziek Рік тому +132

      TIME HAS COME AND SO HAVE I UGH

    • @N1rvann
      @N1rvann Рік тому +378

      Love how an "okay" option constitutes as a solid option because theres literally nothing else you can do with her lmao

    • @Mateo_8886
      @Mateo_8886 Рік тому +279

      THE COPIUM IS REAL 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @miraqen7801
      @miraqen7801 Рік тому +36

      Except I wanna play the game with Dehya. Not with Lyney. Maybe if he was a support tailored for characters like Dehya?

    • @colinlpeace
      @colinlpeace Рік тому +86

      The Dehya cope. Lol
      It’s okay. I still play Diluc hoping to get him to c6.

  • @wideozludrawz
    @wideozludrawz Рік тому +507

    IF U DONT UNDERSTAND THE JOKE IN THE TITLE: irl amber is a resin and can be a gemstone.

  • @pongyyyy
    @pongyyyy Рік тому +381

    Lyneys animations are probably my favorite in the game there so pretty

  • @Merritt_Maverick
    @Merritt_Maverick Рік тому +201

    Love he covered Lyney. Can't wait for him to cover fereminet.

  • @finding_aether
    @finding_aether Рік тому +1144

    Just use Gorou to buff his defense.. problem solved!🔥🔥

    • @limonada4347
      @limonada4347 Рік тому +490

      he's not cooking 🔥🔥🔥

    • @wuwuchi
      @wuwuchi Рік тому +560

      stay away from the kitchen 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @Headless...
      @Headless... Рік тому +252

      What did you say ⁉️⁉️🗣🗣🔥🔥

    • @Mateo_8886
      @Mateo_8886 Рік тому +210

      Blud ain't cooking shit 🔥‼

    • @snapedu9166
      @snapedu9166 Рік тому +150

      Keep it to urself 🗣🗣🗣

  • @hexaquras9374
    @hexaquras9374 Рік тому +354

    Everyday Amber gets powercrept for every Bow + Pyro release

    • @FreneticPotato
      @FreneticPotato Рік тому +13

      Feelsbad everytime

    • @TheStrongestBaka
      @TheStrongestBaka Рік тому +155

      She's the best 4 star pyro bow user, no worries.

    • @icecreamsunday8146
      @icecreamsunday8146 Рік тому +112

      and everyday xinyan gets reverse powercrept for every pyro claymore release 💀

    • @caseyimiller
      @caseyimiller Рік тому +35

      Xianling is the only true pyro dps, every other pyro character is better off as a support

    • @lobster9059
      @lobster9059 Рік тому +38

      @@caseyimiller what are you smoking

  • @notatallfunctional
    @notatallfunctional Рік тому +40

    As someone who uses Tighnari and Yelan a lot, and who has a guaranteed Lyney. That weapon banner is very attractive 😳

  • @aragam.s
    @aragam.s Рік тому +96

    Understood Mr. Zajef, Lyney is a pyro dendro 5 star cryo Amber

  • @RADZIO895
    @RADZIO895 Рік тому +200

    What I like about him is that mihoyo seems to be changing their kit design philosophy from the player's feedback: Team restriction dealt in a better way than nilou, reasonable constellations

    • @caseyimiller
      @caseyimiller Рік тому +43

      Nilou isthe best AoE team in game so having a prerequisite for the teambuilding really feels satisfying over anything else, not even Xianling compares to Nibloom

    • @sweetbabyrayso5262
      @sweetbabyrayso5262 Рік тому +73

      He isn’t forced in to mono pyro like how nilou is forced to use only hydro/dendro but it’s even worse when lyney uses almost all of the good supports in the game to have a good team. Kinda worse than nilou situation tbh cause nilou issue was never about the lock on hydro and dendro directly. It was that there were no options for the team which only increase over time.

    • @tackywheat1295
      @tackywheat1295 Рік тому

      @@sweetbabyrayso5262 Only good supports he seems to want is bennett and kazuha. You still have tons of options for 2nd team.

    • @naotonhan5253
      @naotonhan5253 Рік тому +21

      ​@@sweetbabyrayso5262agreed, it seems like he wasn't forced to play mono pyro, but he was encouraged to the point that other teams just pale in comparison. So his team restriction is even greater than Nilou's because Pyro doesn't have that many good support, and universal supports that doesn't mess with the pyro aura is also quite valuable

    • @actpianocover6329
      @actpianocover6329 Рік тому +31

      ​@@caseyimilleryou completely miss the point. No one says nilou is bad. It's her restriction that makes her pull value kinda low and not really desirable.

  • @catboygaming6579
    @catboygaming6579 Рік тому +67

    lets hope the future pyro gorou have a crit dmg% C6 and is a shielder

    • @thegreatBarbossa
      @thegreatBarbossa Рік тому +29

      they all have element specific crit damage on C6 so that parts probably settled

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- Рік тому +2

      Or is a full healer or sheilder

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta Рік тому

      That sounds like Xinyan 🧐🧐

    • @ray-ee5pb
      @ray-ee5pb Рік тому +10

      @@canaldecastaXinyan is a phys support…

    • @liathelie8805
      @liathelie8805 Рік тому

      thoma c6 is a shielder and increases charged attack dmg of teammates by 15%, but you're losing the dmg from his burst by not normal attacking so... I'm just "well ackshually"-ing

  • @tomlacapra22
    @tomlacapra22 Рік тому +86

    Its sad that even tho there are so many support units, none directly works with Charged Attacks
    Its only Normal Attacks party
    Thoma
    Xingqiu
    Yelan
    Candace c6
    Beidou (Beidou actually works with charged attacks, found out by comments)
    Yun Jin
    Its so sad, Hoyo please release a support for charged attack units, it can be anemo for grouping and shreading (Like a C6 Faruzan on steroid support) or a Geo low damage but shielding (Thoma but with charged attacks)

    • @lucasfranke5161
      @lucasfranke5161 Рік тому +26

      Beidou does work with CAs

    • @tomlacapra22
      @tomlacapra22 Рік тому +3

      @@lucasfranke5161 Wait its true, well time to play Klee overload

    • @jadesides51
      @jadesides51 Рік тому +17

      ​@@lucasfranke5161We need more honestly, and who even use beidou for charged attacks? Charged attacks take longer than normal attacks and are fewer than NAs.
      I can see it helping Tighnari in AOE but that's huge cope

    • @UncannyCreative8128
      @UncannyCreative8128 Рік тому +32

      A charged attack support could do so much for so many characters

    • @Kaiji...
      @Kaiji... Рік тому +15

      No doubt CA buffers have been thought of already by HoYo, we'll just have to wait... and Ganyu will become God-tier again instead of new CA users looool.

  • @fred_redstone
    @fred_redstone Рік тому +84

    From what I understand, he seems like a (almost) litteral alternative to Ganyu, because he needs the same teammates 😅

    • @do_cyx
      @do_cyx Рік тому +7

      easier to play probably cuz it's unga bunga

  • @MeteoTsumugari
    @MeteoTsumugari Рік тому +27

    Thanks for the video, Zajef and editing team. Good luck to those wanting to pull for Lyney 👍

  • @bomqee
    @bomqee Рік тому +52

    lyneys kit looks like what yoimiya couldve been
    strong single target that has aoe but you also get damaged
    burst is where the self damage comes from but you get a shield with talents (shield gets extra pyro damage absorption)
    gives a reason to actually burst every rotation
    would also work perfectly with the artifact set that looks like its literally made for her (shield strength+extra damage while shielded)
    its kind of annoying how they made yoimiya a fireworks maker but didnt give her aoe. then they release another 5 star pyro bow with aoe

    • @bomqee
      @bomqee Рік тому +25

      this is not me calling lyney a bad character i do think he looks good and fun to play, just still a bit annoyed at how they did yoimiya

    • @Yoimiya_Lover29
      @Yoimiya_Lover29 Рік тому +7

      I love Yoimiya and her playstyle, but my only issue with her is aoe. I think every Yoimiya haver can agree.

    • @stelrex7293
      @stelrex7293 Рік тому +13

      I honestly don't have any problems which her NA focused kit but her burst being complete trash is what irks me. As a fireworks maker she should have had some AOE in her burst. I'm fine with the burst damage but after she does her burst she should've been able to mark all the enemies in a certain AOE instead of just marking one and then killing it to transfer the mark. So even if she doesn't have any strong AOE abilities she could've functioned as a good support during her skill downtime.
      Also her constellations are absolute trash for a limited 5* character. Only constellation which is useful is her C2 which grants her 25% Pyro Damage bonus for 6 secs on a crit hit but apart from that everything is trash. Her C6 might just be the worst C6 in the game as it completely F up her vape combo by firing an extra arrow so now her 7th NA attack will not vape resulting in huge dps loss.

    • @Yoimiya_Lover29
      @Yoimiya_Lover29 Рік тому +4

      @@stelrex7293 Honestly exactly. Hoyoverse just did her so dirty.

    • @webbedshadow2601
      @webbedshadow2601 Рік тому +4

      I'm still waiting for Yoimiya's CA fireworks to become useful...

  • @aesaidauroria3458
    @aesaidauroria3458 Рік тому +38

    Lyney's ascension 2 passive is somewhat like Yelan's ascension 1 passive, useful when you use it but not forced.

  • @kawaiilone
    @kawaiilone Рік тому +9

    i watched the whole video knowing no matter what, i will pull as soon as he comes out

  • @deRykcihC
    @deRykcihC Рік тому +11

    actually amos being the bottom tier of 5star is actually not bad, just because everyone now and then will get amos from standard or missed from weapon banner and they can use it on lyney, plus not a lot of 4star characters use amos anyway... so it might be a material saving if that's the case

  • @colinrichardson9537
    @colinrichardson9537 Рік тому +41

    Omg, it's 2 am in my area and I'm watching 50 minutes pre-releas analysis on a character that I'm not even going to pull. om🎉

  • @gotoastal
    @gotoastal Рік тому +38

    Kinda weird Blackcliff Warbow wasn’t talked about more with crit dmg substat & the stacks adding a lot of additional attack.

    • @ddd8828
      @ddd8828 Рік тому +6

      Its bad without stacks, dependent on fights whether you can even have any trash to clear, doesn’t work off field, and Lyney is probably bad at killing trash because he’s single target.

    • @res6148
      @res6148 Рік тому +4

      @@ddd8828His burst and skill have decent AOE but yeah, his CA is more single target oriented.

  • @spymadmax584
    @spymadmax584 Рік тому +56

    So he's essentially stacking fuck ton of atk by the following ways :
    1}character passive Mono pyro (100%)
    2} pyro resonance (20%)
    3} bennet burst (20-40 %)
    4}IF you run 4pc noblesse on any of the character in the party (20%)
    5} weapon passive (48%)
    And add the crit rate buffs from his ancesion and weapon, he'd have wayy more atk and CR than anything that his best stat in a mono pyro team is CDmg😂😂

    • @Mateo_8886
      @Mateo_8886 Рік тому +19

      The passive doens't give ATK; it gives DMG% Bonus.

    • @Daniele-PierreDuLac
      @Daniele-PierreDuLac Рік тому +1

      @@Mateo_8886it 100% gives attack

    • @spymadmax584
      @spymadmax584 Рік тому

      @@Mateo_8886 60% for one team mate including him and 20% for every other pyro character

    • @Ivy-jq6di
      @Ivy-jq6di Рік тому +14

      @@Daniele-PierreDuLac No he's right, his passive grants dmg% bonus. Please check project amber

    • @abyssmage6979
      @abyssmage6979 Рік тому +3

      @@Daniele-PierreDuLac 6:35 learn to read

  • @dogpound9851
    @dogpound9851 Рік тому +11

    I understand why you don’t like nilou’s team restriction but she’d be incredibly busted if she could be paired with venti to group enemies and Kazuha or Sucrose to buff the team’s EM there would be no point in using any other team even if doing so decreased her bloom damage by 20%

    • @jadesides51
      @jadesides51 Рік тому +1

      They should've made it do way less dmg to make up adding another non hydro/dendro character

    • @kashira-0
      @kashira-0 Рік тому +7

      No, shut up. Having grouping and swirl abuse on top of broken AoE explosions that don't require a single crit stat would totally be much better and healthier design. I need to bench my other teams even more than I already do

  • @reykas_
    @reykas_ Рік тому +28

    I have no intention of pulling for him. Did I still watch the whole video? You bet I did

  • @yaritos6872
    @yaritos6872 Рік тому +9

    literally the first video on my youtube page

  • @doddooonnggg
    @doddooonnggg Рік тому +17

    don't forget, he has pneuma in his charged shot, every new character has this new mechanic in either NA/skill/burst, so you count the damage + arkhe mechanic.

  • @nataloserlover
    @nataloserlover Рік тому +17

    Lyney is the first character I saved for since Nahida, so I was waiting for this a lot. Thanks for the pre-release! Will be enjoying my time in Fontaine with mr strimmer again like I did in Sumeru :)

  • @luiss428
    @luiss428 Рік тому +40

    IVE BEEN WAITINGGG like his kit is A++ for how flashy it is but at the core of it all, its kinda like tighnari? but with one arrow shooting out instead of 4. but i havent been factoring reactions because he seems to love mono-pyro but id definitely look into it.
    edit: i have to agree. his passive is GOOD! not because its groundbreaking but because it doesnt cripple him entirely when you play him differently 😭 nilous main deal is super blooms. lyneys main deal is his prop arrows and hats. those dont get removed when you play him in other teams than mono. looking at his multipliers now, i think mono will be strong! surprisingly, you can get a lot of pyro dmg bonus from xiangling and bennett. kazuha is nice but that would leave 1 slot which most people would probably put a shielder.

    • @blazingdragonwolf6771
      @blazingdragonwolf6771 Рік тому +13

      I don't think he's like Tighnari since it doesn't seem like he has a way to make instant charged shots, which is what makes Tighnari godly in quickswap teams, and why Ganyu's slow charged shots feel terrible to play.

    • @mmmkay2457
      @mmmkay2457 Рік тому +1

      @@blazingdragonwolf6771Ganyu’s charge shots are not that slow compared to normal charge shots. Plus the dps they provide is very comfortable.

    • @WhatThe_e
      @WhatThe_e Рік тому +10

      ​@@mmmkay2457indeed ganyu is half a second longer, but getting hit in the half a second makes a solid chunk of your soul crack into tiny bit sized pieces

  • @jla5a
    @jla5a Рік тому +5

    "Lyney is a very very squishy character"
    I mean .... nothing about his visual designs screams " a tough man" , not even just "tough" or "man" xD.

  • @jamrodgers121
    @jamrodgers121 Рік тому +14

    Even though I do plan skipping him mainly because I'm holding out for the archon. It sounds like his build with his set is very Ayaka like. Not much crit rate needing more so load him up with attack% energy recharge crit damage.

    • @ki_dochannel93
      @ki_dochannel93 Рік тому +6

      He already gains a lot of energy from his pyro teammates + A1 passive + his skill generates 5 energy, so that makes it easier for players to focus on damage-related stats

    • @Ivy-jq6di
      @Ivy-jq6di Рік тому +5

      Now that you mention it, he would be built with a similar mindset as building Ayaka. Good observation

    • @bloddrinkeraka
      @bloddrinkeraka Рік тому

      Theres 80+ pulls from 4.0 and probably that much in 4.1 too. So you technically can drop all your current pulls into him

    • @jamrodgers121
      @jamrodgers121 Рік тому

      @bloddrinkeraka I mean true, but I also am not super enthused about his gameplay. Ironically, if anything, I might drop a couple of 10 pulls into Yelan's banner. I do like the gameplay of his sister lynette, although I do know we get a free one right away. I do want to get some of her cons. I'm gonna try and stay above 80 wishes. It's also what I want involving the archon. I want her and her weapon. My account is the ultimate archon simp account.

    • @jamrodgers121
      @jamrodgers121 Рік тому

      @ki_dochannel93 even a better point. Sounds almost as easy as building a Kazuha Kuki or Kokomi etc.

  • @Kaiji...
    @Kaiji... Рік тому +7

    I'm glad I got 2 Aqua's, it makes the newer bow characters a lot more desirable for me. I can use it on Ganyu, Tighnari, Lyney, Yelan, and more! Even memes like DPS C6 Faruzan is not that bad with it.

    • @mc9474
      @mc9474 Рік тому +2

      Yeah it’s a great bow. I have mine on fischl right now. But since polar star still isn’t getting a good banner I’ll probably give it to Childe and give fischl skyward

  • @acanthafiore
    @acanthafiore Рік тому +30

    I remember when Yoimiya was released, it lined up on Amber's birthday (at least for NA servers).

    • @Azaleaaah
      @Azaleaaah Рік тому +2

      Which made ppl meme Amber hard

  • @karaoke_bqv
    @karaoke_bqv Рік тому +1

    I love how his voice volume is always high all the time. Love his vibe!

  • @justsomerandomguyman
    @justsomerandomguyman Рік тому +30

    IMO, they made Dendro too powerful, and the game suffers because of it. They need to do a lot to boost the other elements back up to the level of Dendro for the game to come anywhere close to being balanced now. Geo and Physical, especially, are basically dead now, but even Pyro and Cryo are less appealing than they once were. There was way too much focus on Dendro.

    • @summermoney2971
      @summermoney2971 Рік тому +1

      I mean Pyro and Cryo were basically the meta element back then

    • @mirror2922
      @mirror2922 Рік тому +1

      ​@@summermoney2971they were meta however investment wise for resin duribg that tine waa highly fixated of emblem of severed fate and hyper carry artifacts such as pale flame cryo artifact set and crimson witch. Which are innately hard to succeed in. A lot of dendro comps require less resin than average and some the dendro artifacts (gilded dreams) changed an entire landscape for team building. Its has also been one of the elements most associated with breaking hydro related enemies. While maintaining strong elemental diversity. A cryo team trult only has hydro cryo and anemo, a dendro team can have much more variety.... and the costs for building them are only truly limited to your team comping options...

    • @netparse
      @netparse Рік тому

      pyro and cryo are still something they are very careful about, they are so careful that cryo doesn't have any characters that ignore the ICD rules after 2 years and pyro only has xiangling, that's very telling that they don't want to spoil the balance that they have been trying to maintain but it is likely that at some point they will have to.

    • @mirror2922
      @mirror2922 Рік тому

      @@netparse Well said if pyro and cryo had any independence from hydro units to function on their own the forward amplifying reactions would take center stage. I kind of want them to do that though because its hard to justify certain units now when EM builds are pretty cracked as far as dendro is concerned

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok Рік тому +4

    Lyney's Bow looks like it could be awesome for Ganyu in mono Cryo / Freeze.
    You get higher base Atk than Acqua, a lot fo Crit Dmg, Same Atk% Boost as Amos(mono cryo), and CA% Dmg...
    I mean... It's like it combines a lot of good stuff from multiple weapons.

  • @shinkamui
    @shinkamui Рік тому +79

    if only nilou would let us have a flex slot like lyney
    edit: you guys, its not about power, its about getting to use more characters without invalidating her one unique gimmick lol

    • @thegreatBarbossa
      @thegreatBarbossa Рік тому +13

      tbf. they'd have to completely redesign how bountiful cores work. it would be cool if nilou wasn't so restrictive but they'd have to nerf her gimmick a lot.

    • @whiteflash27
      @whiteflash27 Рік тому +12

      Yeah... I used to curse how Nilou made slots restricted. Then I went and got some amazing hydro/dendro charas and she's so strong. Wouldn't take a Nerf in exchange for a flex slot

    • @spymadmax584
      @spymadmax584 Рік тому +4

      Couldn't disagree more

    • @Kaiji...
      @Kaiji... Рік тому +27

      Except Nilou can use the most copium Hydro/Dendro teammates and still nuke the enemies like it's nothing. Ironically, Nilou is super easy to build despite restrictions.

    • @THEM0J0MAN
      @THEM0J0MAN Рік тому +7

      ​@@thegreatBarbossajust make its damage bonus exponential scale on the amount of hydro and dendro teammates up to the current value at full team.
      That way your highly incentivised for full team but still benefit at low members.
      Zajef has brought this up before.
      It's not hard, it is shitty design, would not take a complete redesign.
      Many other chars have this kind of scaling on their passive skills.

  • @Yoanka
    @Yoanka Рік тому +4

    I like his kit and he is at a good power level, but having Childe, melt Ganyu and Hu Tao, I don't know if I can justify pulling him before the Fontaine lineup is mostly revealed. He looks fun and flashy (and has a funny cat!), but I have two characters who want the same team as him already and one that can reasonably drive mono-pyro if needed, so playing him may not feel as fresh for me as I'd hoped for. We'll see, I'll have 3 weeks after his release to decide.

  • @kuaithe
    @kuaithe Рік тому +8

    I hope they stop making pyro on fielders after this. We need another sub dps!!

  • @Brightplays
    @Brightplays Рік тому +7

    5:30 editors you are amazing

  • @brondermody3409
    @brondermody3409 Рік тому +6

    Lyney's Perilous Performance passive that triggers off a change in HP will probably push ppl to have healers instead of shielders instead which will make him even squishier, since I assume the passive would turn off once he reaches the 60% mark and stops consuming HP per shot. However, still very excited for this character, I think i've got a bit of dendro fatigue where setting up reactions like Thoma burgeon can be finicky and temperamental so mono pyro with big numbers might be refreshing.

    • @thegreatBarbossa
      @thegreatBarbossa Рік тому +4

      makes sense that they wanna push people towards healers more considering hydro is all about HP
      Watch them introduce new rifthounds as well.

    • @mochiicecream1487
      @mochiicecream1487 Рік тому +10

      I dont get this lol. There's already bennett that can sustain him decently. He can also heal himself practically to full health every use of skill. So shielders are definitely better than another healer aside from bennett.

    • @brondermody3409
      @brondermody3409 Рік тому +1

      @@mochiicecream1487 I was just going off raw mechanics, for instance there are times when Bennett isn't available such as in a different Abyss team so it might be more beneficial to go for a sole healer and free up a slot for a better dmg dealer. And you should probs be doing his healing skill only after multiple shots, in which case, only the first shot will be using his passive and the rest will be stuck at the 60% with no HP changes if you're using a shielder but I could be wrong. It's mostly just saying that they seem to have HP changes with him in mind so a shielder might not be his best in the long run.

    • @mochiicecream1487
      @mochiicecream1487 Рік тому +4

      @@brondermody3409 oh i see. Well healers are indeed more valuable to him than shielders. The reason why zachef is focusing more on shielders/interrupt res is because the synergy of lyney and bennett( which is already a healer) is almost the same as hu tao and xingqiu. I mean I guess if the player doesn't really care about dmg much, removing benny from his team will automatically require a healer in his team slot so yeah. Besides, there aren't really any other great buffers for lyney. But ye I understand where you're getting at.

    • @brondermody3409
      @brondermody3409 Рік тому +6

      @@mochiicecream1487 Yea, I wasn't trying to present it as some hidden make-or-break mechanic, it was just something to keep in mind esp when they release new units that have HP change scaling which Fontaine seems to be about :)

  • @bootstrap925
    @bootstrap925 Рік тому +43

    kirara skill as his burst, such a brave move by hoyoverse

    • @res6148
      @res6148 Рік тому

      You mean Fischl her burst as Kirara skill?

    • @josef-1209
      @josef-1209 Рік тому

      nuh uh

  • @xenon4888
    @xenon4888 Рік тому +7

    Ahh yea, new region and characters are another major buff for Xiangling

  • @ariank83
    @ariank83 Рік тому +11

    Zajef the 🐐

  • @jyusatsu
    @jyusatsu Рік тому +2

    I'm not pulling for Lyney but I still watch the entire video coz it's always educating to hear your thoughts of the character.

  • @jamin4109
    @jamin4109 Рік тому +10

    I love my c2 Klee too much to consider an alternative mono pyro onfielder

    • @bootstrap925
      @bootstrap925 Рік тому +15

      reject stupid pnemua and ousia mechanics
      return to boom boom bakudan

    • @bootstrap925
      @bootstrap925 Рік тому +14

      @@Cxvlestial the only way to settle this is to have dodoco and lyneys cats 1v1 in a boxing ring

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta Рік тому

      ​@@CxvlestialAmber with Baron Bunnys: Why not both 😇

    • @bloddrinkeraka
      @bloddrinkeraka Рік тому +2

      C2 Klee is actually a very good off-field teammate for him

  • @wanderingsoul4103
    @wanderingsoul4103 Рік тому +10

    "he's 5* amber" "he's pyro ganyu" wrong. he's range hu tao

    • @dannielblo1602
      @dannielblo1602 Рік тому

      Doesn't it apply to yoi as well?

    • @wanderingsoul4103
      @wanderingsoul4103 Рік тому +5

      @@dannielblo1602 lowkey but yoi doesn't have any hp depletion/restoration mechanic like lyney and hu tao do. plus she relies on na while the other two rely on ca

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- Рік тому

      He's monopyro range hu tao

  • @KarimEka18
    @KarimEka18 Рік тому +7

    Lessons learned from this video
    Every Genshin patch is basically a Xiangling buff

  • @Gossamer24
    @Gossamer24 Рік тому

    Great video!! Thank you for posting this, definitely helps me how I'll build my (hopefully!!) future Lyney.

  • @tomekpiatek88
    @tomekpiatek88 Рік тому +21

    Can't wait to see mono pyro being forced to use a bow character, because Lyney is the answer for flying enemies in the Abyss. Not to forget pneuma and ousia.

    • @Galariel
      @Galariel Рік тому +6

      Charged attack bow character for flying enemies? You playing FPS game in genshin?

    • @takimi_nada
      @takimi_nada Рік тому +10

      Yoimiya is the real answer for flying enemies let's be honest lol

  • @randydator4848
    @randydator4848 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video as always!

  • @Rewwrs
    @Rewwrs Рік тому +19

    I’m getting him regardless. I wanna run a team with all 3 siblings and arlecchino

  • @magiusus4627
    @magiusus4627 Рік тому

    Great vid Okayge cant wait to get him

  • @orechild2062
    @orechild2062 Рік тому +3

    Maybe losing the 50 50 to Deyha on kokomis banner wasn't tooooo bad

  • @nikkehtine
    @nikkehtine Рік тому +2

    I don't know if you switched to Comic Sans in Excel just for the memes, but it might have actually been a good decision because it's really easy to read

  • @afnan1069
    @afnan1069 Рік тому +1

    Saw the clips for beta for freminet and i cant wait for the pre release!!

  • @firstkeepitreel
    @firstkeepitreel Рік тому +1

    As someone who mains bow users (and has all currently out) I’ve always been pretty happy with the state of Genshin’s 5 star bow users. None of them feel below average in terms of damage, and their uniqueness in kits is overall pretty varied (from Childe’s melee stance, to Tighnari’s quickswap, to Yoimiya’s single target, to Yelan’s INSANE support, even to Ganyu’s charge attack kit.) I have thoroughly enjoyed using each one in a number of teams, and since the majority of the 5 star bows are ALSO pretty decent overall, I’ve gotten a few for myself as a welkin payer and been very happy with my character’s damage output.
    I’m overall really looking forward to another bow users joining my roster 🙏 and hearing that he’s also got a unique kit with decent numbers only had me more excited for him.

  • @thegreatBarbossa
    @thegreatBarbossa Рік тому +3

    wonder if we'll see more characters designed around mono-elemental teams throughout fontaine.
    would be neat imo.

  • @mozzapple
    @mozzapple Рік тому +2

    Lyney has self healing and you can put Dehya on the team as a support, since she won't interfere with the mono pyro setup

  • @somegirl4631
    @somegirl4631 Рік тому +1

    The fact that they didn’t make the magic siblings catalyst bugs me so much lol

  • @F_Print
    @F_Print Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the informative video! Lyney is a charged attack archer so that's an auto skip for me, but I like learning about his kit nontheless!

  • @lithium5425
    @lithium5425 Рік тому +8

    Zhongli is my favorite vv unit

  • @tryhardexperience5312
    @tryhardexperience5312 Рік тому +45

    is he a pyro amber

    • @pongyyyy
      @pongyyyy Рік тому +41

      hes a pyro balls

    • @limonada4347
      @limonada4347 Рік тому +1

      balls

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Рік тому

      ​@@pongyyyy For a 5 star, that's kinda rough but, hey, he's adequate. Like Cyno kinda, if even that.

    • @pongyyyy
      @pongyyyy Рік тому +7

      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks I was joking lmao, the best comparison is ganyu but we still don't fully know until he comes out

    • @Galariel
      @Galariel Рік тому

      ​@@pongyyyythats honestly very generous, looking at how ganyu can be a flex burst dps, having wider team comps, less squishy, and is aoe, I don't think they are at the same level

  • @confessionsofachatterbox173
    @confessionsofachatterbox173 Рік тому +1

    Another Zajef video POG

  • @willpickering5829
    @willpickering5829 Рік тому +18

    It’s kind of hard to imagine monopyro would be better than just switching lyney for Childe, becoming international

    • @caseyimiller
      @caseyimiller Рік тому +37

      That is because it isnt better unless you really like the character like klee mono pyro there still isnt better situations for mono pyro to outperform childe international

    • @Azaleaaah
      @Azaleaaah Рік тому +2

      Unfortunately it can never be better, unless with Lyney cons though I'm not aware if it will be better with cons, just an assumption. The only reason you'd use him over Childe is if u don't have Childe, or prefer Lyney as a character

    • @infine-8222
      @infine-8222 Рік тому +16

      International needs a lot of planning and artifact tuning to work due to how restricted the rotation is. Multiwave, spread out enemies, not meeting damage thresholds - all that stuff is a pain to work around.
      Monopyro is braindead facerolling, at least the Klee version. You don't care about cooldowns, have more energy than you will ever need, no funneling, can straight up skip skills if you want (and don't need to spin up pyronado to kill a single random straggler), can start rooms with zero energy and be perfectly fine.
      The thing is, I can't understand the Lyney hype. It's Klee, but ACTUALLY clunky this time because Klee cancels are mostly a meme (the only one in real use is N1C which is much easier than HuTao N1C), while bow CAs suck donkey balls and there's no way around them.

    • @apanaama3703
      @apanaama3703 Рік тому +2

      It's not up to Childe. It's up to Xiangling. She's BiS in all monopyro and National versions.
      Childe is only BiS in one National version. Outside of it there are better candidates than him with less cooldown in dendro or electrocharge.
      She's the one that really calls the shots in Xiangling International. Actually 3 of them other than Childe does. They have far more other places where they're BiS than Childe.

    • @leovu8500
      @leovu8500 Рік тому

      maybe if your mono pyro team is hyperinvested like with constellations and his bis weapon maybe even some refinements on it too. then it probably will be better than international with the same investment

  • @WorldWideWinnersx
    @WorldWideWinnersx Рік тому +3

    Currently building my amber to meme my way through Fontaine

  • @garudanathanael5257
    @garudanathanael5257 Рік тому +2

    I hope he is not on standard banner. I HATE it when character I waited they throw it away to Standard (like Tighnari and Dehya).

  • @NerdEmoji1067
    @NerdEmoji1067 Рік тому +1

    I think a good rotation would be, Lyney CA*2, kazuha/sucrose/Lynette EQ, Benny EQ, xiangling EQ, and then on Lyney use burst, then 2 CA and then E. That will give you 5 stacks decently quick. I know people are going to say “won’t his stacks expire?” So lemme adress it, his skill says “all prop surplus stacks are cleared when Lyney is out of combat for 60 seconds” that’s the same thing as ittos stacks so they will stay even when swapping off Lyney.

  • @JeFreeze
    @JeFreeze Рік тому +2

    Seems like a character I might like to try, but I'm so un-excited about another character that's glued to bennet. Theres a lot more team options without bennet than there used to be but it's still quite limiting when most hypercarries, a lot of vape teams, pretty much every melt team, and also a lot of burgeon teams will all be pretty incompatable in the abyss with lyney on the other side.

  • @diamondaion8534
    @diamondaion8534 Рік тому

    Looks very cool , love his playstyle and general teams , will be pulling :)

  • @besplayz
    @besplayz Рік тому +4

    At last, Zhongli on Archaic Petra is actually viable

  • @theperson101ful
    @theperson101ful Рік тому +3

    Charge attack play style on bow characters is so clunky, imo he looks boring af to play.
    I feel like if you playing this character its because your spirit animal is Hisoka.

  • @toli7176
    @toli7176 Рік тому +2

    man i wish nilou's passive was like lyney's, so that her team building wouldnt be as restrictive

    • @kdzdzdeiz
      @kdzdzdeiz Рік тому +1

      With great sacrifice comes great green numbers

  • @firelight3806
    @firelight3806 Рік тому +13

    I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Phys Xiangling. I try to play Pyro Xiangling with 4p Exile yet my Phys Xiangling does more damage and doesn't need funneling. I try to play Yoimiya but she is just a silhouette on a character sheet. I see no Cyno yet. There's no more Dehya disappointment anymore. I want to play Klee because she's better than Diluc and definitely better than Xiangling, though the arsonist child is clunky to play. I want to play Childe but I don't know how rotations work and play him as a hypercarry. She grabs me by the throat. I farm Northlander Billets for her. I cook for her. I give her R5 Cresent Pike. She isn't satisfied. "Save up for Signora. Hopefully she's a dedicated Physical support Cryo catalyst, surely." In the meantime I try giving Vortex Vanquisher to her because she deserved it more than Zhongli. "I don't need this much ATK%," She tells me. "Give me more field time." She lamented. "You just need to pull Cryo Amber so I have more Superconduct uptime" I can't pull for Ganyu, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs Gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but underwhelming white damage numbers. What a cruel world...
    TL:DR: OPPA XL on top.

  • @akvirr7102
    @akvirr7102 Рік тому +7

    From what ive seen in leaks, he actually can use skill 2 times, one before ult and it looks like while he is in cathat form he can use skill again, even if it was on cd when he changed form.

  • @MuhaamadAreeb
    @MuhaamadAreeb Рік тому +1

    12:21 why would you not go Bennet xiangling zhongli (Layla f2p, we just got her)
    Buffing , check
    Defensive option, check
    Aoe. check

  • @manao__
    @manao__ Рік тому +1

    Lyney got so much stats (with his signature) that you can pretty much play him with shit artefacts with only the 4p and ATK/Pyro%/Crit that it would still be ok

  • @ShadowOfNos
    @ShadowOfNos Рік тому +3

    Pyro characters nowadays just have it so hard because of Bennett and Xiangling.

  • @diptube6563
    @diptube6563 Рік тому

    Two hats on the field and a skill is like 3 "charge attacks" which is a 90% increase from c6

  • @milkronin2488
    @milkronin2488 Рік тому +3

    Why you didn't say anything about burst hypercarry vape team with Mona? 3 seconds burst duration will be ideal for 5 second Mona's Omen, burst damage will insane and other buffs will be enough for making strong 2-3 or maybe 4 CA.

    • @serj5128
      @serj5128 Рік тому +2

      Yeah!
      He has 2 ticks on burst just like Mona. So you can vape both ticks on him. Or vape both on Mona if you main Mona.

  • @im_bored_af
    @im_bored_af Рік тому +1

    i actually have active bets if the new videos will be over or under 40min long.

  • @ChiggnNumgets
    @ChiggnNumgets Рік тому +2

    they need to change ganyu's c5 to increase the level of normal attacks instead of her skill

  • @williamhawkins542
    @williamhawkins542 Рік тому +1

    "I know some good games we could play," said the cat
    "I know some new tricks," said the cat in the hat
    "a lot of good tricks. I will show them to you. your mother will not mind at all if I do."

  • @kokomiyax
    @kokomiyax Рік тому

    i like how the a1 max buff is having 2 other pyros and not 3, leaving a spot for an anemo x

  • @Mel_iodas
    @Mel_iodas Рік тому

    Now i realized why they gave him blade's va, He removes his hp and restores it.

  • @markstar0069
    @markstar0069 Рік тому +5

    If he doesn’t have instant charge shots he is DOA

    • @ki_dochannel93
      @ki_dochannel93 Рік тому +3

      From that clip in the leaks subreddit, It's faster than Ganyu, but slower than Tighnari after the latter uses skill.

    • @Ivy-jq6di
      @Ivy-jq6di Рік тому +1

      It's still faster than Ganyu who's already out of the meta anyways, plus Fontaine is going to nudge players toward the pneumaousia system

  • @RuneKatashima
    @RuneKatashima Рік тому +2

    9:41 idk what Tectone has to do with this.

    • @goodfriend4059
      @goodfriend4059 Рік тому

      Thats not dicktone, zajef was bald at one time

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Рік тому

      @@goodfriend4059 Haha, I know, I am making a joke about how similar they are if you do not scrutinize the image.

  • @Yoimiya_Lover29
    @Yoimiya_Lover29 Рік тому +1

    Here's the thing. I NEED Yelan and Zhongli, plus i want Yelan's weapon. Lyney is not an option. But he's SO cute and now it's tempting 😭

  • @chronopolize_jp
    @chronopolize_jp Рік тому +3

    Im conflicted on Lyney. On one had I love bow users and glass cannon characters, on the other hand I don't like how he's pretty forced into Lyney Bennet flex Anemo/Zhongli. (Also with bennet aura Lyney is gonna get one shot all the time). It's yet another bennet impact team that is reliant on Kazuha

  • @lalilola3770
    @lalilola3770 Рік тому +1

    Lyney is a type of character that I would love to play if he was anything bas a bow-charged attack character.
    Bow charged attack on anything but Tighnari feels so bad to play because you have restricted mobility, pov, movement speed and you get tossed around like a volleyball

  • @Zorlexon
    @Zorlexon Рік тому +5

    I really like Lyney but not his teams. As he is the only Fontaine chatacter I really like I'm still not so certain to get him or not. I have both Kazuha and Zhongli and Benny too.
    I don't know. I actually like Tighnari but I barely use him...

    • @Marz333
      @Marz333 Рік тому +4

      Man I was not interested in him at first but he grew on me because of his animations I wish he wasn’t just good in mono pyro

    • @Zorlexon
      @Zorlexon Рік тому +1

      @@Marz333 exactly. He's a magician that turns into a cat with great voice lines. I reeeeallly love him. I hope that Xingqiu is on his banner because of Yelan so I have a purpose to pull him anyway.

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- Рік тому +5

      If you like him, pull him. If you don't, then don't. Don't feel pressured by meta

    • @sweetbabyrayso5262
      @sweetbabyrayso5262 Рік тому

      @@HazZzel-shut up my guy. We are on a meta focused channel

  • @MojtaAS
    @MojtaAS Рік тому +3

    so they are releasing mono pyro after wanderer which is pretty much mono anemo
    whats next neuvilette is mono hydro? wriothsley is mono cryo?

    • @nonamepasserbya6658
      @nonamepasserbya6658 Рік тому

      They are not escaping the making male DPS too niche allegations if that's true

    • @OktavianusCelestialine
      @OktavianusCelestialine Рік тому

      imagine, mono physical

    • @MojtaAS
      @MojtaAS Рік тому

      now that would be pretty dank@@OktavianusCelestialine

    • @MojtaAS
      @MojtaAS Рік тому +1

      never heard of such allegations@@nonamepasserbya6658

    • @Main_Hu_Tao_Hater_reborn
      @Main_Hu_Tao_Hater_reborn Рік тому +5

      The wanderer's team has 2 Anemo, one of which is himself, people on the internet: he is a mono anemo...

  • @Justin-ud9rr
    @Justin-ud9rr Рік тому +1

    I don't understand how someone can use Bennet with Lynney. His Burst is a cat car that you have to drive around. Bennett burst is a tiny circle. So you just burst and sit still for 4 seconds in Lynne's cat until it explodes? it doesn't sound that good honestly.

  • @scaramouche7759
    @scaramouche7759 Рік тому +3

    Lyney is not a 5 star Amber, he’s Tom Holland performing Umbrella by Rihanna.

  • @FranciscoJG
    @FranciscoJG Рік тому +6

    If you vape half his damage with 300 total EM he actually covers the loss of A4 passive (at 3 Pyro).
    That disappoints me a bit, I'm still hoping the passive is a separate multiplier (like C4 Xingqiu) instead of the DMG bonus multiplier.

  • @charlesalbertnisperosrn5269
    @charlesalbertnisperosrn5269 Рік тому +1

    I'm still undecided. I have a guarantee, either for c2 wanderer or c0 lyney.

  • @magiclover9346
    @magiclover9346 Рік тому

    I am so looking forward to getting full stacks on Hunters Brooch with my Blacksword Ayato (the 5s cool-down triggers align exactly). Getting a whopping 63.6 crit without artefacts. Really looking forward to trying out this set in a Yunjin, Ayato core.