The Hydro Archon Is FINALLY Here | Furina Pre-Release Analysis

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  • @Tuonto
    @Tuonto Рік тому +807

    jean meta

    • @Sai-sg2fx
      @Sai-sg2fx Рік тому +53

      Didn’t know you watched these types of videos 😂

    • @Varuna.Aqucrest
      @Varuna.Aqucrest Рік тому +3

      :O

    • @Konomidebanshouwashikisesur
      @Konomidebanshouwashikisesur Рік тому +27

      Omg it's Mr.Toes, the number 1 Kequing Main in all of NA

    • @ayss2611
      @ayss2611 Рік тому +4

      I am happy I build Jean. Thanks for encouraging me to build her Tunto!!

    • @ansuman3900
      @ansuman3900 Рік тому +17

      You used to pray for times like these

  • @pongyyyy
    @pongyyyy Рік тому +2197

    nothing like a 1 hour and 20 minute furina vid to watch right before bed

  • @coupdata7
    @coupdata7 Рік тому +629

    Not even 2 minutes in and he has completely descended into French, this is going to be fun

    • @Ninija96
      @Ninija96 Рік тому +43

      Yup and probably a quebec person since the accent he has is pretty obvious

    • @Bipedalduck
      @Bipedalduck Рік тому +26

      And he is a friend of Zyox, they are from the same town.

    • @Zer0Hour17
      @Zer0Hour17 Рік тому +98

      @@Bipedalduck I'm not convinced Zyox is even from Earth.

  • @Ginko139
    @Ginko139 Рік тому +854

    now this is not normal cooking this is *GOURMET* .
    the FurinaHype emotes add 10 years to my lifespan

    • @Randomguyno69
      @Randomguyno69 Рік тому +4

      Just asking will Qiqi finally be playable with furina ??

    • @luckyjc8702
      @luckyjc8702 Рік тому +26

      @@Randomguyno69 you can but it's so cope, like Mika is unironically just better lmao.
      Qiqi E is still a single target heal only, with horrendous cooldown.
      Her Q will pretty much full heal your entire team, but that's the same case with Jean and Mika.
      Plus, she's still one of the 3 chars with barbruh and noelle that don't generate any particle,
      making her a huge burden for your team's energy requirements.
      At least barbruh redeems herself by being able to carry TTDS and cuz hydro is a good element.
      Noelle redeems herself by being a pretty decent DPS at c6 high invest and having chars and teams that work well with her.
      Qiqi is still unsalvageable for now...
      But yeah, you definitely could if you want. Won't be as good as other healers,
      But Qiqi is still a healer, so you can get more fanfare still.

    • @het7644
      @het7644 Рік тому

      @@Randomguyno69 as a driver probably, if you just cast E - meh

    • @vainzyy
      @vainzyy Рік тому

      wheres ur pfp from? its so cute lol

    • @Zombina638
      @Zombina638 Рік тому

      This dude

  • @wideozludrawz
    @wideozludrawz Рік тому +679

    nearly 4hours condensed into 1h 1/2 editors you did great as always

    • @georgeabreu6392
      @georgeabreu6392 Рік тому +16

      Oz, the personal editor for Fischl. Peers review haha.

  • @pixzeyl
    @pixzeyl Рік тому +1285

    You know the character is gonna be good when the pre-release is literally 1+ hr long

    • @Vocalizecommander
      @Vocalizecommander Рік тому +164

      ... or is it? **Vsauce theme kicks in**

    • @yaboiuri
      @yaboiuri Рік тому +64

      ​@@Vocalizecommander"where are your primos?"

    • @musicaddict9058
      @musicaddict9058 Рік тому +150

      You know the character is gonna be broken when zajeff tries to defuse the powercreep allegations and doesn't call unit just "decent"
      And my personal favorite line "x unit won't be an upgrade in every team", like being an upgrade to 80-90% of the teams isn't enough

    • @biggestouf
      @biggestouf Рік тому +23

      @@musicaddict9058She needs to balance out the abomination called hyperbloom.

    • @musicaddict9058
      @musicaddict9058 Рік тому +77

      @@biggestouf Eh, hyperbloom was never really broken, it is just the team with the highest floor in the game.
      Once you start investing more into your teams, hyperbloom starts falling off. I'm honestly more of a fan of quickbloom teams, at least those teams can benefit from vertical investment.

  • @Gossamer24
    @Gossamer24 Рік тому +107

    The healer's list is SO useful, especially with the asterisks and commentary. I may honestly build my Mika now to create some team diversity, since I've got a few other strong units from the list built already. Thank you for making this video!

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Рік тому +7

      I'm gonna do Eula Furina Raiden Mika :)

    • @amnos180188
      @amnos180188 Рік тому

      I usually use healers like benny or XQ or Kuki because i dont really need much heals as dodging exist but I also have Jean Baizhu and Yaoyao as a strong heals. So um good to go i guess .

    • @IRIS03032
      @IRIS03032 Рік тому +1

      question if i use furina ult and my team has 50%hp then a use jean to heal will that instantly give me stacks?
      also using a character with a lower max hp an advantage? i mean you heal more quickly while still having your hp decreased in a fixed amount

    • @rirururu4697
      @rirururu4697 Рік тому +7

      @@IRIS03032 That's the idea. That's why characters that can teamwide heal your entire team from 50% to 100% HP are ideal and why Baizhu/Jean/Mika/Charlotte are being recommended the most. You will instantly gain 200 fanfare stacks with one button press. Also characters that have less HP would help Furina gain stacks easier, yes.

    • @IRIS03032
      @IRIS03032 Рік тому +2

      @@rirururu4697 ohhh thanks i also thought of that but i was just conflicted because its too good to be true wghaahga i can finally make use of jean

  • @5h0ckblock
    @5h0ckblock Рік тому +254

    I just realized, if you go mono hydro with Noelle, you could give Noelle archaic Petra, and since there's so much hydro going around, you'll have endless hydro crystals coming your way, for a near 100% uptime on the 35% damage buff from archaic.

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 Рік тому +9

      True

    • @fivefourtwo4498
      @fivefourtwo4498 Рік тому +12

      now I wanna build Noelle just to play this

    • @sly1680
      @sly1680 Рік тому +79

      Noelle also has no ICD on her infused NAs and CAs, so while that means nothing, it's funny

    • @slowcheetah7383
      @slowcheetah7383 Рік тому +58

      Yes, but Furina and Yelan will give you so much DMG% that it won't be optimal, that's why Marechaussee Hunter is still a better option because it gives you 36% Crit. Rate and the 10% damage to normal and charged attacks.

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Рік тому

      15% to NAs and CAs. But the 35% dmg% is for Yelan and Furina. Marechaussee will only give Noelle damage. If you just slap double HP on them, it's probably fine.@@slowcheetah7383

  • @rosamariaparraga9365
    @rosamariaparraga9365 Рік тому +115

    I am living for Zajef saying all the Fontaine terminology in perfect French

  • @Hearty_fharty
    @Hearty_fharty Рік тому +69

    Mika is one of the healers that gained a lot from furina's addition. Also I find it funny that c4 Mika with r5 rightful reward (Fontaine craftable), is able to reduce his burst cost to 23...

  • @I.M.T.S
    @I.M.T.S Рік тому +341

    Considering how suddenly Jean becomes relevant in meta discussions, I am pretty confident HYV cooking Ganyu's Mom to be a better Jean for Furina.
    Edit: Sorry guys, my prediction didn't come true. Cloud Retainer ended up being dedicated 5* plunge support all Xiao main had been demanding for years. It's a massive win for Xiao main, but I guess the rest of us are taking the L.

    • @abyssmage6979
      @abyssmage6979 Рік тому +47

      Leaks already say she's a teamwide anemo healer

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 Рік тому +57

      @abyssmage6979 those are sus leaks not confirmed leaks,I wouldn't trust them

    • @10tailedbijuu
      @10tailedbijuu Рік тому +5

      don't you mean Shanhe's mom?

    • @abyssmage6979
      @abyssmage6979 Рік тому +11

      @@banjoowo4001 i thought that is already common knowledge. Apparently it isn't.

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 Рік тому

      @@abyssmage6979 how is that common knowledge, there are credible leakers and there not so credible leakers and there are leakers which is a mix of both, your leak isn't a credible leak

  • @zaphyrae
    @zaphyrae Рік тому +392

    As someone who's firsr healer was Jean, I'm glad she's meta again. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of Mika, but I think he's kinda cute, so its good to see him more too.

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 Рік тому +2

      Same

    • @ashy5808
      @ashy5808 Рік тому +35

      Well We're getting another anemo healer mommy aka cloud retainer

    • @madyou4210
      @madyou4210 Рік тому +17

      In fact, it will be more or less used until 4.4 and the release of Cloud Retainer

    • @alial-kateeb5267
      @alial-kateeb5267 Рік тому +28

      Wdym you are glad she is meta she is always meta when there is fatui to yeet
      I literally cheesed the third chamber with her this abyss 3 times

    • @Exacerberus
      @Exacerberus Рік тому +7

      As an unwilling C6 Mika haver I'm looking forward to get Charlotte so I can keep that useless blondie on the bench in my Ayaka freeze.

  • @canaldecasta
    @canaldecasta Рік тому +300

    New sword/claymore/spear character releases
    Chongyun: Prepare for trouble
    Shenhe: Make it double

  • @cherico94
    @cherico94 Рік тому +18

    Editors did a great job at this. Going through a 3+ hr video to condense it to a little under 1.5hrs is a lot of work. Also I really liked the ER requirement visual demonstration and it's going to help so many people. If that's turned into a short, it'd be great.

  • @hanipierce5710
    @hanipierce5710 Рік тому +47

    A unit that makes old units better is amazing

  • @ShadowOfNos
    @ShadowOfNos Рік тому +168

    I don't think using Jean is an obstacle, I love that new characters make other lesser characters more valuable (and Jean is soo pretty!)

    • @rafael_lana
      @rafael_lana Рік тому +32

      Zajeff is famous for his dislike of Jean, which i dont get it either bc she is pretty good

    • @allenzale342
      @allenzale342 Рік тому +72

      ​@@rafael_lana
      Id say the dislike is because while Jean is good at being a healer she's horrible at being an Anemo VV shredder

    • @el7284
      @el7284 Рік тому +22

      Crowd control. It's an obstacle in AoE

    • @rafael_lana
      @rafael_lana Рік тому +22

      @@allenzale342 to be fair, she isn't, on the same level as Venti or Sayu in that regard. It's just Kazuha and Sucrose are unbeatable in that department and makes everyone else looks bad. But you can VV on her skill very consistently.

    • @allenzale342
      @allenzale342 Рік тому +10

      @@rafael_lana
      It's mostly single target shredding, not only that but she throws small enemies around and makes big ones recoil enough to be bothersome

  • @Admerelech
    @Admerelech Рік тому +127

    I see that the interactive world map shenanigans has also gotten to the editor

    • @ProfessionalPizza7
      @ProfessionalPizza7 Рік тому +48

      Nothing escapes the hands of the abyss (founder clothar)

    • @Emerald29
      @Emerald29 Рік тому +19

      😶👉

    • @walter1824
      @walter1824 Рік тому +2

      where?

    • @julianlee4227
      @julianlee4227 Рік тому

      @@walter1824 ua-cam.com/video/q-hB0PK32V0/v-deo.htmlsi=M219kG1CUDHe2iac

    • @alexprus7953
      @alexprus7953 Рік тому +3

      @@walter1824 0:22 literally the first minute

  • @jonjosh755
    @jonjosh755 Рік тому +26

    what i like the most about furina it's her capability to make every dps having the same set of artifacts and being pretty good with

  • @phatbeatz1311
    @phatbeatz1311 Рік тому +61

    zajef explanation of the whole ER mechanic is so good and can be use as a point reference for current and future characters, I feel like ER is a difficult part to understand to most casual players out and I cannot stress enough that ER is the one of the important stat other than the usual dmg crit stats.

    • @andreespina9747
      @andreespina9747 Рік тому +5

      I just wish her ER requirements were on the lower end, like nahidas which gives a huge buff but is only 40 cost. Although ofc since this is a bigger and teamwide buff I wish her cost was around 50.
      Another thing that I wish they did is give her particles on cast and throughout the rotation

    • @yahikonightray5398
      @yahikonightray5398 Рік тому +2

      ​@@andreespina9747its been buffed its actually is 70 before

    • @do_cyx
      @do_cyx Рік тому +8

      ​@@andreespina9747if she has lower er there's no balance

    • @Kellexyz
      @Kellexyz Рік тому +12

      0% ER gamers doing 3 minutes rotation

    • @do_cyx
      @do_cyx Рік тому +6

      @@Kellexyz but but 5mil screenshot 🥺🥺🥺

  • @denzelgonzales3854
    @denzelgonzales3854 Рік тому +168

    Thanks to Furina, I can envision Kokomi becoming the on-field dps she was supposed to be and make her signature weapon work.

    • @Hezkun
      @Hezkun Рік тому +38

      She was always able to with xq and yelan
      But now that you can stack furina on top of that (Xingqiu can shred hydro so Kazuha is actually the throwaway slot)

    • @asharma2247
      @asharma2247 Рік тому +10

      Not sure if Kazuha is a throwaway slot, Xingqiu shreds 15%, whereas Kazuha does 40% with VV and i think he also provides upto 40% elemental dmg bonus based on EM, so it will depend on what is the break even point for Elemental dmg bonus since Furina can give upto 75% dmg bonus (if you can get all fanfare) and with Kazuha it will amount to 115%, as far as Hydro shred is considered, lots of abyss enemies have more than 70% elemental resistance so with kazuha and Xingqiu shred it will be 55% Max so even that is great
      Also i am not theory crafter so please if you know one confirm it with them, all of this is what i understand, so it can be different from reality.@@Hezkun

    • @1ryb360
      @1ryb360 Рік тому +8

      I've always been using her as an on-fielder since she came out in 2.1(or 2.2? I don't rmb) and she's honestly so underrated in that role, first as taser driver then in nilou teams as well. And I'm so happy Furina is gonna make her even better

    • @whitemoth4339
      @whitemoth4339 Рік тому +4

      ​@@asharma2247from the calcs that i saw. The dps is the same. As xq does a lot more dmg compared to kazuha, so even is kazuha gives dmg% and shred xq personal dmg equals things out

    • @Hezkun
      @Hezkun Рік тому +4

      @@whitemoth4339 yep, and Xingqiu can be vertically invested a lot better than you can Kazuha for this team

  • @FayinKay
    @FayinKay Рік тому +15

    "To reinvigorate some of the healers" I like this take, it's normal for Archons to change and invent new team comps. It's refreshing.

  • @gonzalodiez6336
    @gonzalodiez6336 Рік тому +98

    furina is so interesting in that she makes specifically team wide healers very good. and that's basically making mika of all characters, more viable. also jean. baizhu was already good but this is also nice. i never imagined i would build mika but I actually like him and hes good for my wrio furina freeze

    • @user-vt5qg7hj1m
      @user-vt5qg7hj1m Рік тому +14

      I mean Baizhu has always been alright but this is making him, you know, actually good. Like he had been an alright option but now he's actually pretty competitive with her

    • @thebrigade7684
      @thebrigade7684 Рік тому

      Baizhu is gonna be a bait before cloud retainer in 4.4 it's STC if she's healer but there's a lot of sources as always

    • @user-vt5qg7hj1m
      @user-vt5qg7hj1m Рік тому

      @@thebrigade7684 wait we'll get cloud retainer???
      Eh either way getting Baizhu was a great choice I made that I do not regret AT ALL

    • @gonzalodiez6336
      @gonzalodiez6336 Рік тому +4

      @@thebrigade7684 it will be good to have team wide healers of more than one element. cloud retainer would be a bait for building jean, and then people benching her for retainer who's also anemo. baizhu being dendro is still good to have

    • @rirururu4697
      @rirururu4697 Рік тому

      @@user-vt5qg7hj1m The only problem I see with Baizhu is that he's going to force bloom reactions when used with Furina due to his dendro application which you don't always want in all teams. Furina's damage buff doesn't work on transformative reactions like bloom/hyperbloom/burgeon.

  • @clericneokun
    @clericneokun Рік тому +14

    Zajef's closing comments really add a lot of context to whatever train of thought the developers had when they designed Furina.

  • @RishabhSharma-lq1id
    @RishabhSharma-lq1id Рік тому +29

    Bro out here putting vids longer than archon quest

  • @richie1496
    @richie1496 Рік тому +71

    Can’t believe Furina can save a set like Maiden

    • @el7284
      @el7284 Рік тому +14

      For one patch. We're getting a new set soon

    • @Sakuta3220
      @Sakuta3220 Рік тому

      ​@@el7284huh isn't her bis golden troupe?

    • @el7284
      @el7284 Рік тому +14

      @@Sakuta3220 yes, we're talking about something else

    • @verzetta
      @verzetta Рік тому +14

      @@Sakuta3220 Maiden is to help weaker healers to heal more

    • @KuroiHoshiV
      @KuroiHoshiV Рік тому +1

      ​@@Sakuta3220People dreamt that there was a new artifact set for version 4.3 that had a focus on healing

  • @Erlow
    @Erlow Рік тому +12

    furina at the start animated like an unofficial interactive map image, amazing

  • @MrHav1k
    @MrHav1k Рік тому +9

    Prototype Amber Mona (not exactly new), but WITH 4 PC MAIDEN (That is new)
    I love it!! In general I like how Furina's introduction is opening the door to new teams, different types of teams, and opens the door to units that were long written off or were never really that good.

  • @skullzyy22
    @skullzyy22 Рік тому +14

    HOLYYY 1 hour and 17 mins of zajj cooking

  • @crt137
    @crt137 Рік тому +8

    Note that leaks have suggested that C6 received a change post-beta so there is a possibility of additional changes. The livestream, for example, mentioned that Pneuma mode "Singer of Many Waters" heals nearby party members, rather than active party members. Might have been a typo but might also be a change we'll seen when the pre-load is live.

  • @meursaulty6672
    @meursaulty6672 Рік тому +8

    It warms my heart to know my Festering Desire will finally have its moment to shine. Up until now it's kind of just been my default if a character doesn't have a best in slot.

  • @remor7634
    @remor7634 Рік тому +58

    When you started calculate energy for teams.... You gain my respect instantly and forever

    • @jsw973
      @jsw973 Рік тому +16

      He does that for like... every video

    • @thiaraxoxo746
      @thiaraxoxo746 Рік тому +11

      @@jsw973 maybe this is their first video of his

  • @alibanimalek3578
    @alibanimalek3578 Рік тому +8

    Really enjoyed the analysis. Thank you for the content as usual. Im glad jean is finding a new light.

  • @jaguh9069
    @jaguh9069 Рік тому +277

    Its nice how unutilized healers making a comeback with Furina 🥰
    Noelle/Jean, even Mika.
    Dori still taking the L tho 😅

    • @robertoalexandermendezmore408
      @robertoalexandermendezmore408 Рік тому +33

      Dori is Ok with Furina if you C6 Dori

    • @bonk8311
      @bonk8311 Рік тому +62

      If dori is taking the L hoyo took a massive fat steaming shit on qiqi

    • @KategariYami
      @KategariYami Рік тому +30

      The L that Dori takes isn't from Hoyo, it's from TCers constantly forgetting that C6 Dori Onfielding exists. I understand if you don't like Dori, Nick, and you don't want to see her, so on fielding won't be an option for you, but the reality is there's a good to fair chance Thundering Dori is going to be great.

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima Рік тому +25

      Dori is really good in co-op. You just have to enjoy being a healer/buffer. Cause she also gives loads of energy.

    • @shrimpchris6580
      @shrimpchris6580 Рік тому +14

      @@RuneKatashima Her beam is an absurdly consistent hyperbloom trigger when active and it's so much funnier when running a hyperbloom team in co-op. I wish it had better uptime, even if it was through cons

  • @viettungnguyen940
    @viettungnguyen940 Рік тому +170

    It sucks that her best 4* weapon is something that most players don't have

    • @madyou4210
      @madyou4210 Рік тому +38

      between a 4* sword from fishing the difference is not very big, at c2 the difference is 50k-60k+ damage, but a higher er, at c0 the difference will be less I think

    • @NetrocMagi
      @NetrocMagi Рік тому +5

      It's not that big of a difference tbh.

    • @eclipseeffigy
      @eclipseeffigy Рік тому +47

      The difference between Fleuve Cendre and Festering Desire is very small so you don't really miss out on anything. I'm a little surprised he didn't use Fleuve as a base instead of Festering because of it.
      It's completely unlike Albedo's situation; you don't need to feel like you're using something inferior if you're using Furina on Fleuve.

    • @felipepoffo
      @felipepoffo Рік тому +2

      it's big difference between them

    • @blebikkun
      @blebikkun Рік тому +17

      @@felipepoffo do not let him to the stove ever again

  • @craticalrole
    @craticalrole Рік тому +8

    Amazing analysis as usual, but can we talk about how well you explained the ER requirements section? You explained the concepts very well and the demonstration was great to see visually, keep it up zajef and editors!

  • @Archdjinn
    @Archdjinn Рік тому +83

    As someone who loves Yoimiya and Noelle, this makes me quite happy

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase Рік тому +4

      Been tryna build noelle and recently regretting all the DEF pieces i tossed

    • @legion_sqd
      @legion_sqd Рік тому +1

      probably gonna shift her Geo goblet to a DEF one. i hope Furina works in my Noelle burgeon team, maybe she doesnt have enough hydro app, but whatever. but i am happy the characters i gravitate towards have natural synergies

    • @leiah6514
      @leiah6514 Рік тому +11

      The problem is that I dont think Furina is nearly enough to be a solo hydro for Yoimiya, and putting a second means no healer since she needs a shielder. I’m gonna try everything to make her work, but Hoyo really ruined her by giving no resistance to interruption AND purely single target damage. I’ve used her in every abyss since release and it’s pain how there isn’t single target sides anymore and very stagger-focused enemies. Here’s hoping though.

    • @leovu8500
      @leovu8500 Рік тому +1

      @@legion_sqd i think noelle still prefers a geo% goblet, but def% is only barely behind, so use whichever one has better substats

    • @leovu8500
      @leovu8500 Рік тому

      @@leiah6514 i have been thinking of running yoimiya furina bennett diona. diona healing is weak but combined with bennett it could be enough to match furina hp drain. she also provides a nice shield and some cryo application to help in case furina hydro app gets wiped, and she gives 200 em at c6

  • @bobrek84
    @bobrek84 Рік тому +8

    As someone who has mained Noelle since I got two copies of her on my first beginner banner 10 pull, I am super ready for Furina. Ever since your first impressions I was thinking she sounded like a perfect 4th slot and I've been saving my welkin moon and event primos for the past 2 months in the hopes of getting her C1

  • @juanmarine6566
    @juanmarine6566 Рік тому +44

    Im happy to see hoyoverse expanding the ways to play and making new teams viable instead of just raising the power level of the same teams

  • @vel9322
    @vel9322 Рік тому +6

    its actually interesting how furina is bringing a new meta (furina + healer) just fit that pair into any team and they receive dmg buffs

  • @EnZore
    @EnZore Рік тому +6

    We just got a frickin healer tier list Because of furina lolll, love the 1h analysis..

  • @NoelleMain
    @NoelleMain Рік тому +8

    My girl Noelle being paired with Furina is quite interesting since they help each other a lot
    Furina having off-field hydro to enable crystallize for Noelle, and having that ult to buff Noelle
    As for Noelle, she heals everyone pretty well to further increase Furina's fanfare stacks

  • @diegoviloz9452
    @diegoviloz9452 Рік тому +6

    What I get from this vídeo is that furina is a must pull, why? Because she is an enabler makes a lot of other unit playable and enables more team comps.
    It is a great adition to every account.

  • @Howema
    @Howema Рік тому +5

    i love nothing more than a unit that enables more units to be viable, i don't even care if they are meta i just don't want to feel like i am gimping myself for using them. variety is fun.

  • @SoarThroat-z6n
    @SoarThroat-z6n Рік тому +73

    As much as I am excited for my upcoming Furina, it's just so sad that Qiqi never got into the healer conversation once again. 😔.

    • @chomosuke0720
      @chomosuke0720 Рік тому +11

      What am I gonna do with my C8 Qiqi then??

    • @gluesniffingdude
      @gluesniffingdude Рік тому +30

      Qiqi would be fantastic for a freeze team with Furina, but unfortunately she just doesn't have the energy generation to be useful.

    • @Quinton_ovo_
      @Quinton_ovo_ Рік тому +14

      ​@@gluesniffingdudeto be fair, Noelle doesn't have generation too but lots of people are talking about her 😅 you could force a DPS Qiqi if needed

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Рік тому +28

      @@Quinton_ovo_ Yes but Noelle at least do some damage and have geo application (it is usefull on pseudo mono hydro with Petra Noelle), Qiqi are really just heal and not even apply too much cryo.

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 Рік тому +43

      just use her.. why do u need validation??

  • @keikoZB
    @keikoZB Рік тому +10

    The fact that I can use Furina in a freeze Ayaka with Shenhe and Jean makes me very happy :) Wednesday morning can't come any sooner

    • @TheProphet334
      @TheProphet334 Рік тому +2

      her hydro app is practically single target with AOE every 4 seconds from crabaletta you'll have enemies unfrozen in aoe and if it's for bosses then sure they can't be frozen anyways

  • @Zoalde
    @Zoalde Рік тому +106

    Who would've imagined Furina would make Jean and Mika good, Dori and Sayu usable and Noelle powercreep Itto 💀

    • @bonk8311
      @bonk8311 Рік тому +43

      no because actually what the fuck I never would’ve thought this would happen in a million years
      now we just need a character that makes xinyan good

    • @TheSloadedOne
      @TheSloadedOne Рік тому +35

      Noelle the next geo archon

    • @astelshusband2459
      @astelshusband2459 Рік тому +3

      so excited for the rise of healers!

    • @shrimpchris6580
      @shrimpchris6580 Рік тому

      Noelle was already debatably better than Itto

    • @IGuessVince
      @IGuessVince Рік тому +22

      @@shrimpchris6580not as a main dps she wasn’t what are you on about 😂😂😂😂. Everyone knew she had more utility but not a better dps character

  • @Nickulator
    @Nickulator Рік тому +5

    Rip to all the people that wanted to main and on-field Furina while offsetting the healer requirement now needing her C6 (it used to be the C2) in order to do so.

  • @azaleaadair9053
    @azaleaadair9053 Рік тому +35

    How convenient that cloud retainer might be a VV anemo healer

    • @m_milos
      @m_milos Рік тому +22

      there's a new set coming out alongside her that turns overhealing into buffs so she might not necessarily want vv

    • @Ivy-jq6di
      @Ivy-jq6di Рік тому +2

      Depending on how good the new healing set will be, she might not even want VV

  • @yashtandon7460
    @yashtandon7460 Рік тому +14

    Me (A Kokomi main) getting ready to farm a 5th dedicated set (Maiden's beloved) and a 3rd dedicated weapon (Prototype Amber) for Kokomi.

    • @user-vt5qg7hj1m
      @user-vt5qg7hj1m Рік тому

      What other weapons(and sets) did you have her on before? And why???

    • @yashtandon7460
      @yashtandon7460 Рік тому +10

      @@user-vt5qg7hj1m
      Sets:
      1. TOM, mainly for freeze.
      2. Ocean Hued Clam for teams that don't care for TOM's buff.
      3. Gilded Dream for Nilou Bloom (EM,EM,EM) for more bloom damage.
      4. Flowers of Paradise Lost for Nilou Bloom. (HP, EM, EM) for more healing.
      5. Maiden's beloved soon for Furina.
      Weapons:
      1. TTDS, mainly for freeze.
      2. Sacrificial Fragments for Nilou Bloom.
      3. Prototype Amber for Furina soon.

    • @Hezkun
      @Hezkun Рік тому +9

      ​​@@yashtandon7460as a Kokomi main myself, you really don't need Maiden Beloved because:
      1) it's similar to 2pc2pc healing
      2) Kokomi already outheals furina even with just ToTM/Clam
      3) Maiden's 4pc doesn't buff Kokomi's A4
      4) OHC is decent sub-dps for any Kokomi driver team atm
      5) Honestly yeah just do 2pc2pc if you want proto amber healing

  • @ImagineCats9339
    @ImagineCats9339 Рік тому +4

    Fun fact , Jean's burst will swirl any element you get hit by and it will be applied on the enemy itself , so C0 neuvilette can still reach 3 stacks with furina/jean , but needs a shielder, preferably Zhongli

  • @Edoeren
    @Edoeren Рік тому +2

    Funny how none of the archons necessarily want or need their respective elemental damage bonus goblet.

  • @RuneKatashima
    @RuneKatashima Рік тому +7

    Furina, Eula, Mika, Raiden. Bet.
    Edit: P.Amber R5 will give 72 stacks. No slouch :)
    I think Barbara was designed around the open world. Where she can permanently keep a party going and her constellation doesn't require her to be in combat since you just passively regen energy with no effort. Even just afk. This works in Abyss too if you just sit there without confirming the key.
    Diona might be more medium, as she doesn't have an upper limit on healing. She can easily proc Furina's passive and won't have Bennett's issues with the HP limit. Not very good, but medium maybe.

  • @MuhaamadAreeb
    @MuhaamadAreeb Рік тому +2

    17:34 all of that to basically say . For alhaitham and cyno she'll be good
    For double hydro with yelan she'll be ok
    And any other scenario. Just use xingqiu

  • @igniko4816
    @igniko4816 Рік тому +16

    Holy, Mika stocks going through the roof with Furina's release

  • @antoniosaesthetic9045
    @antoniosaesthetic9045 Рік тому +15

    I thought Hoyoverse was incentivizing healers more than defensive utility and Furina seems to continue that since she might prefer a healer on her team until she gets higher constellations.

    • @Ivy-jq6di
      @Ivy-jq6di Рік тому +1

      It's to help sell 5 star healers since they can't really sell shield characters with Zhongli's existence

    • @KuroiHoshiV
      @KuroiHoshiV Рік тому

      ​@@Ivy-jq6diThey absolutely can, even characters with a weaker shield. They just need to be more creative

  • @Rafos
    @Rafos Рік тому +12

    If recent leaks about Cloud Retainer's kit are true, Xiao + Faruzan + Furina + Cloud Retainer is gonna be busted. Just need to change Xiao's Anemo goblet for an Atk one so that the DMG% Bonus from Xiao and Furina's Bursts wouldn't be so excessive, just as Bennett's Atk buff would no longer be necessary, and finally, goodbye Circle Impact.

    • @lratioyourmom5608
      @lratioyourmom5608 Рік тому +1

      what does cloud retainer do?

    • @verzetta
      @verzetta Рік тому

      ​@@lratioyourmom5608
      - Anemo support healer, catalyst
      - has off-field utility
      - heals on burst, heals while dealing damage
      - burst has a pretty large range and can swirl
      - gains stacks when allies' HP fluctuates, and consumes the stacks to reduce defense when attacking enemies
      - can use 4.3 artifact set that converts overheal into dmg buff

    • @verzetta
      @verzetta Рік тому +1

      I hope that team variant is also good for Wanderer. Although i'm not sure if it's an improvement to the hypercarry variant with Bennett+Thoma. Need her numbers+multipliers to calc the comparison.

    • @Rafos
      @Rafos Рік тому

      @@lratioyourmom5608 It's not yet confirmed, but many leakers are saying that she is a mix of team healer and Anemo Sub DPS. If this is true, her healing would be great with Furina and her damage would be great with Faruzan.

    • @Rafos
      @Rafos Рік тому

      @@verzetta I can see it being very good with Wanderer too, but it would lack resistance to interruption. It would be uncomfortable but I think it would be viable

  • @eclipseeffigy
    @eclipseeffigy Рік тому +44

    A small thing, but it's unfortunate her A1 doesn't work on herself, just for the sake of the overworld comfort a little teamwide healing gives. The healing variant of her skill is currently so unequivocally not worth using. Ah well! I'm hyped for her! So many characters get a new team thanks to her.

  • @theultimatetactician1712
    @theultimatetactician1712 Рік тому +9

    I'll finally get to use my festering, thank the gods

  • @Cinnamowo
    @Cinnamowo Рік тому +7

    My god, please, someone, make the Xiangling copypaste but with Favonius, I feel like I am about to become just as crazy

  • @blumenmupfel
    @blumenmupfel Рік тому +18

    I hope Freeze Wrio with Sayu instead of Jean plus Shenhe works with her. I'm running this with Yelan atm, but I'm hoping Furina's buff will make this even better.

  • @jyusatsu
    @jyusatsu Рік тому +2

    Hands up to your TC knowledge as always and I'm really excited for Furina. I'm planning on using her mainly with Neuvi but the other teams looks nice to use.
    Edit: also shout-out to your editors, chef's kiss just amazing editing.

  • @kypux5426
    @kypux5426 Рік тому +11

    she will be insanely good with noelle, as a noelle main i can say that she is imortal

  • @mormegil84
    @mormegil84 Рік тому

    Damn. Incredible work. Thank you, Mr. Zajef. I can only imagine how much time goes into these pre-release videos.
    Good luck with your Furina pulls, everyone.

  • @Phoenix-il5hc
    @Phoenix-il5hc Рік тому +3

    13:12 Like here only talking about sub dps potential, I don't think its that straightforward like many people will think. From what I've seen in other cals and some calcs I ve done on my own, I am finding both of there personal dmg to be very similar when they both in same team or where one replaces another . And its only calcs we are talking about without taking account of human errors (or skill issues) which impacts furina much less than yelan.
    LIke her pets still do dmg even you switch characters, cast q, interrupted, not doing na's having your coffee in between etc etc with perma uptime. And this will be more visible in longer rotations where there is some gap time in between casting yelan's q.

    • @ta3648
      @ta3648 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, I have seen Jstern calc of monohydro team of kokomi yelan furina xinqui. She is doing more damage than yelan there where its like yelan's 23% of total team dps vs furina's 27%. But I am believing it will be similar in teams where you do procing good amount of yelan's breakthrough barbs. Obviously like you stated without factoring skill issues. Her damage as subdps is very good overall.

    • @Phoenix-il5hc
      @Phoenix-il5hc Рік тому +3

      @@ta3648 Yeah its either slightly higher or lower but similar which makes me believe it will be on higher side most of time which is pretty good. Again this is without factoring her buff on other party members.

  • @Mateo_8886
    @Mateo_8886 Рік тому +126

    Zajef, remember that her A1 has a translation error. She heals all party members, not one OK 👍

  • @StanleyG23
    @StanleyG23 Рік тому +4

    Of course bro posted a full-length film.

  • @nisijones4619
    @nisijones4619 Рік тому +10

    I'm using dockland on her for my own personal amusement it just fits 😭 she seems like the type to use the anime sword lmao

  • @theduelist92
    @theduelist92 Рік тому +2

    Ok i can finally be salty about starting to play Genshin one week after the Festering event ended AND about never getting a single Mika...

  • @Ecstasyeye
    @Ecstasyeye Рік тому +3

    I love your content dear Zajef

  • @MeteoTsumugari
    @MeteoTsumugari Рік тому +2

    I'm really excited to try out a bunch of teams with Furina. Good luck to everyone pulling for her and good luck to your Golden Troupe/Marechausse rolls 🙏
    As always, big thanks to Zajef and the editing team for these videos. Especially this feature length one. Y'all did an amazing job on this one.

  • @IGuessVince
    @IGuessVince Рік тому +6

    Nothing like getting an archon 5 star to help my 4 star starter character more damage 🥰

  • @KaitoSGJS
    @KaitoSGJS Рік тому +2

    my triple crowned mika is gettin MAD screentime here WOOOO

  • @dachi1318
    @dachi1318 Рік тому +6

    I thought ask zajef Yelan is long enough with 53 minutes but I guess I was proven wrong

  • @mace8k
    @mace8k Рік тому

    Sat through the whole thing like it was nothing! Very informative and probably some of your best visuals yet in a prerelease. Keep up the great work!

  • @janerishbaluca1529
    @janerishbaluca1529 Рік тому +10

    About Xiao: being able to run without Bennett's circle impact is a gigantic buff by itself in practice.
    Every character benefits from no longer needing Bennett, especially those that don't snapshot, and especially those whose kits have limited range.

    • @rirururu4697
      @rirururu4697 Рік тому +5

      If you use Jean as your healer in Xiao teams though, you're still stuck in her circle impact anyway. You'd have to use Mika or Charlotte which means losing Jean's buff if you have her c4. Unironically, Mika might be better than Charlotte here since his healing buff lasts 15 seconds while Charlotte's only lasts 4 seconds and Xiao's burst is draining him for quite a long time. Xiao's combos include an NA before his plunge so he can trigger Mika's healing so you could run him over Jean if you truly want to be free from circle impact.

  • @_Retr_0
    @_Retr_0 Рік тому +1

    absolutely fking love how zajeff pronounced those french names

  • @faceless1434
    @faceless1434 Рік тому +8

    I took a bit of a break from Genshin this patch (still doing events but not playing daily) due to being busy and even after reading her kit it never clicked with my that she works really well with Noelle.... IDK how... I'm a Noelle main. I don't even like Yelan yet pulled her entirely for more Noelle teams. I'm only 10 min in though so maybe I'm stupid. Imagining Noelle on Marechausée and Albedo on Golden Troupe instead of Husk a set literally made for the Def/Geo niche is really funny to me too

    • @rafael_lana
      @rafael_lana Рік тому +7

      Yes she is a Noelle enabler, alongside a lot of another unconventional DPSs. Just making so Noelle can run MH with full stacks is huge, not to mention her own buffs.

  • @ShadmanNahiyan-iy9fg
    @ShadmanNahiyan-iy9fg Рік тому +2

    Not an hydro archon but still the determination,pain she faces she is something beyond a human, focalor rip to save people.Love u furina

  • @Luke-cb3ly
    @Luke-cb3ly Рік тому +4

    I'm super excited for 4.2. my Noelle is C6, using redhorn. 70% CR and 230% CD. and I'm intending to get Furina C2. I could not be happier

  • @nerdguy9205
    @nerdguy9205 Рік тому +2

    Her C2 is a 6* con.. Stacking increase by 3.5 times and 140% hp is like having three goblet and she has high base HP also.
    You can basically go for ER hydro crit build and still will have solid 140% HP.
    At C2 her skill will have dmg bonus of
    40(from her own passive) + 46.6 (goblet) + 70% ( from GT passive) + 100% (from burst at level10) + 28 (from A4) = 284% dmg bonus for skill.
    Without any weapon passive or team buff plus she will have 41500 HP with 140% hp from C2 including flower. Not including any HP% from sub stats or from hydro resonace or from weapon.

  • @varryi2041
    @varryi2041 Рік тому +33

    Baizhu-Thoma-Yelan-Wrioyhesley has been one of the most fun teams i found for myself recently, can't wait to try it with Furina!

    • @nellz109
      @nellz109 Рік тому +37

      You’re gonna need like 700% er on almost every character 😭

    • @purplecosmonaut
      @purplecosmonaut Рік тому +5

      Same but using Xingqiu instead of Yelan. There's just something about rainbow team that are just fun, especially when dendro is involved.

    • @kindnepenthe
      @kindnepenthe Рік тому

      no judgement but what is this comp bruh 😭 reaction chaos

    • @blebikkun
      @blebikkun Рік тому

      just kind of a hyperfridge, isn't it? @@kindnepenthe

    • @leiah6514
      @leiah6514 Рік тому +13

      @@kindnepenthe Cryo is amazing for burgeon. Melt or freeze is all they trigger, and it removes burning. Wrio has slower cryo app, so you still get plenty of seeds for burgeon and enough to provide freeze. It’s a good team if you have the characters to try it, it’s a bit like thundering furry in how complicated the elemental gauge calcs were to get it to work.

  • @princemannic
    @princemannic Рік тому +2

    honestly im happy zajef actually mentions sayu as an option msot people i see only talk about jean which makes sayu seem so much more inferior because they didn't even think she was worth mentioning

  • @omnipresent_lightbulb
    @omnipresent_lightbulb Рік тому +4

    Babe wake up Zajoof just uploaded the Furina Pre-release

  • @tongli9014
    @tongli9014 Рік тому

    thanks for the vid. answered all of my questions I had in mind :)

  • @rer3regulus
    @rer3regulus Рік тому +3

    FURINA HOLDING LOONA LIGHTSTICKS AT THE START YESSS

  • @meepswag35
    @meepswag35 Рік тому +1

    I love the thing at the beginning with her extending her arm like the dudes on the interactive map do

  • @MythicAce218
    @MythicAce218 Рік тому +39

    i swear anytime i here festering desire talked about it makes me sad because i was playing during that time but either took a small break or just ignored the event and never got it as a result of that. its actually a reocurring problem of mine,taking breaks at the worse times. overall tho good video and im hyped for furina

    • @bulat9331
      @bulat9331 Рік тому +1

      Same I always seem to take a break during the times they give us the best weapons and cons ,lol

    • @IDKbruh420
      @IDKbruh420 Рік тому +4

      I wouldn't worry about it, you mainly use her for her buffs which don't scale with anything other than her burst level, all you're losing is some of her personal damage and fav is still great for team battery

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 Рік тому +10

      @@IDKbruh420 Or you use the new fishing sword from fontaine which is like 6% worse than Festering desire.

    • @MythicAce218
      @MythicAce218 Рік тому

      thank you thank you@@IDKbruh420

    • @vladdyru
      @vladdyru Рік тому +12

      They've already reran limited event weapons in Honkai, so if we cope hard enough, they might as well do the same in Genshin...

  • @rotiboisserie8752
    @rotiboisserie8752 Рік тому

    I was waiting for this one ! Thanks for the vid man !

  • @camillebeifong
    @camillebeifong Рік тому +5

    I am so excited to see what the editor did with the anti leak stuff

  • @13Nagash13
    @13Nagash13 Рік тому +1

    You had me at braindead to play. I love yelan+yoimiya for its "empty head no thoughts" play that I can do on my phone at work.

  • @elderman64
    @elderman64 Рік тому +49

    An Hour and a half of Furina + Zajeff???? We're fed today bois and girls 🎉

    • @SuperKevinho1
      @SuperKevinho1 Рік тому

      If only I could understand English like yall😔

  • @reykas_
    @reykas_ Рік тому +4

    I have C1 Neuvillette and R5 Festering Desire... as well as 20 pulls, 0 pity, and a dream lol
    Enjoyed the pre-release, thanks for all the work you do!

    • @Cilibi
      @Cilibi Рік тому +1

      Good luck friend I believe in you

    • @rafael_lana
      @rafael_lana Рік тому +2

      She will rerun soon anyway, don't stress too much about it. Archons rerun like crazy.

    • @Shinbunshii
      @Shinbunshii Рік тому

      @@rafael_lana not to be a naysayer but there was a sus leak just now that Furina's 2nd story quest was moved to ver. 4.7 due to Archon quest interlude (w/ Arlecchino weekly boss) + Cyno part 2 story quest being in 4.6, so it's possible OP could be waiting for Furina rerun until we're very close to Natlan release :(

    • @reykas_
      @reykas_ Рік тому

      @@rafael_lana Yeah I'm not too stressed! Would still be nice to be able to get her though to continue my archon collection x)

    • @rafael_lana
      @rafael_lana Рік тому

      @@Shinbunshii when it comes to history quests and banners from old characters more than 2 versions away, leaks are almost useless, people been saying Qiqi was gonna get her quest since before Fontaine. I wouldn't put too much attention on it yet.

  • @RidaksonGamer
    @RidaksonGamer Рік тому +6

    Im sure that zajef is having fun, speaking so many french names

  • @BreaddoDraws
    @BreaddoDraws Рік тому +2

    only answer is on field mono hydro kokomi btw, literally all i want furina for LOLOL

  • @NLwino
    @NLwino Рік тому +4

    How could he forget about on-field Kokomi taser. If it works for mono hydro, just replace one of the hydro unit's with Fischl.

  • @AdityaSarkar333
    @AdityaSarkar333 Рік тому +5

    I guess mono hydro can be a real thing now with furina, kok and lasts are flex

  • @Cilibi
    @Cilibi Рік тому +5

    Holy shit my Noelle mono geo AND Wanderer teams are getting buffed by Furina?? I thought I was only getting her for Neuvillette, but it seems she’ll be seeing a lot more use on my account than I expected

    • @marcusvinicius917
      @marcusvinicius917 Рік тому +2

      Wanderer isn't, zajef just doesn't use him correctly, wanderer faruzan c6 bennet and Yunjin/Venti/Jeanc4/Zhongli/Thoma/Layla/Yelan will always be unmatched

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 Рік тому +4

      @@marcusvinicius917what are tou talking about

    • @marcusvinicius917
      @marcusvinicius917 Рік тому

      @@lafeechloe6998 furina isn't a buff for wanderer if you have the optimal team.

    • @Cilibi
      @Cilibi Рік тому

      @@marcusvinicius917 I mean, I do have all those characters and my Wanderer is C1r1, so you’re probably right. Still might be fun to do some damage tests and have another team for him

  • @symmetry0806
    @symmetry0806 Рік тому +1

    When the constellation description started to pop up and move in to the distance like in a Star Wars movie it actually made me laugh 😂 you know no one is able to read everything anyways

  • @omegadefender85
    @omegadefender85 Рік тому +10

    The amount of Mika love in this video makes me so happy that I have him c6 for my Eula team.

  • @alegendarydude9720
    @alegendarydude9720 Рік тому

    Been waiting and it's finally here. Much love Zajeff