Vergil's PVP Ship Tier List | Star Citizen Master Modes PVP 3.23

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    00:00 What is in this video?
    2:16 The Master Modes PVP Tier List
    19:42 Building the List. Ship by Ship live.
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  • @Ver9jl
    @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +6

    Catch me LIVE on twitch.tv/ver9jl // Join ver9JL discord for more content updates: discord.gg/vzABq6AUVd // Join in the discussion on the Shadow Moses (SC Organization) discord: discord.gg/shadowmoses

  • @watermelon58
    @watermelon58 Місяць тому +14

    At least you also mention the ships you arent sure of when making commentary, people also tend to take these tier lists as gospel rather than frame of reference.

  • @JBoomerOfficial
    @JBoomerOfficial Місяць тому +3

    Awesome looking forward to watching this I've been waiting for you to do one of these for a while now.

  • @SeerreuS
    @SeerreuS Місяць тому +3

    Man that was fast back-to-back videos. Very interesting takes on your rankings for ships this video will see a ton of views

  • @-DarkFox-
    @-DarkFox- Місяць тому +4

    Vergil hand cam - S+ tier

  • @fr0gzz
    @fr0gzz Місяць тому +4

    Really liked the tier list 👌

  • @Skyborn
    @Skyborn Місяць тому +2

    good work brother, thanks for this !!!

  • @Jakthesnackable
    @Jakthesnackable Місяць тому +3

    Great video! Very educational and entertaining. Thank you.

  • @PoeticShaman
    @PoeticShaman Місяць тому +4

    As a fool who’s been grinding AC in an Arrow for the past few weeks, feels pretty good to see it ranked this low.

  • @AustinTemple-m9h
    @AustinTemple-m9h 23 дні тому

    Great video!

  • @ArcaneAsy1um
    @ArcaneAsy1um Місяць тому +3

    good shit mang!

  • @DTOXTV
    @DTOXTV 26 днів тому

    Interesting watch cheers, totally agree about the Bucc! Ive been saying it too!

  • @Ver9jl
    @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +3

    Hopefully this gives you guys a better idea of where things are really at

  • @Leo_Getz1
    @Leo_Getz1 Місяць тому +1

    Great ranking definitely reflects what I’ve been experiencing flying and fighting against. Interesting take about the 🔥🦅 I’ve been leaning heavy into it, trying to learn the best spots it should engage. Biggest problem I’ve had with it is how unreliable missles are I’ve had locks for my missiles to fly straight of into the horizon 123.

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +1

      Try holding missiles until minimum lock range and flying straight towards the target with momentum

  • @trucker-dave
    @trucker-dave 20 днів тому

    Good video. Just keep in mind to keep the yeah count down. You said yeah quite a bit.

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  20 днів тому

      Hahaha I cant help it!

  • @_rustyxnails
    @_rustyxnails Місяць тому +1

    Excellent - Would love to see CIG give us significant changes with 4.0 so we see more ships in the S and A tier.

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому

      Agreed brother!

  • @gprime3113
    @gprime3113 Місяць тому +1

    This was good.

  • @KelrCrow
    @KelrCrow Місяць тому +1

    From what I've seen this looks pretty accurate. I hope they continue to work on missiles, I'm not sure how they should work exactly, but I think they should be more useful.

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому

      Yeah I think the gameplay loop needs to be looked at again, become interesting etc

  • @Ver9jl
    @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +1

    Again, I've purposely left out some ships. Mainly snub craft, a couple that weren't on the website, some of the more luxury based ships and racing ships as their purpose isn't so much competitive PVP in a squadron format. None of these would of ranked higher than D regardless.

  • @reltius2993
    @reltius2993 8 днів тому

    I love the Firebird its so fun to just fly around with. Really curious how you guys employ them.

  • @terrandysart3587
    @terrandysart3587 Місяць тому

    Can’t wait for you to make 10 more of these as they continue to change master modes dramatically over the next year or so

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому

      free content baby

  • @sevn6
    @sevn6 Місяць тому +2

    Based. 123

  • @InitriVonLowa
    @InitriVonLowa Місяць тому

    Finally pvp ship tier list which make sense, only cutty blue and black are still cacer with full taskforce build, esp in groupfights

  • @qutatrongaming
    @qutatrongaming Місяць тому

    I need to slap 2 revenants on my Tana and test it in PVP. Maybe that 3000 DPS will be enough to compete.

  • @Gilonn
    @Gilonn Місяць тому +2

    Thats a good list. Firebird F tier!!! ;)

  • @Kudooeh
    @Kudooeh Місяць тому +1

    great tier list! , i got a hornet Ghost do you know what kind of weapons i should put on it ?

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +1

      Onniskys

    • @Kudooeh
      @Kudooeh 11 днів тому

      @@Ver9jl should i just melt mt F8C Lighting for the F7C Hornet MK2? i recently just got the lighting and its not what i expected compared to the F7C Mk2

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  11 днів тому +1

      @@Kudooeh Yeah, unless you enjoy slow slow ships like the F8 currently is

    • @Kudooeh
      @Kudooeh 11 днів тому

      @@Ver9jl nah i hated how slow it was, kinda sad . im guess u would say to run full omnis on the F7C mk2?

  • @RYCOPZ
    @RYCOPZ Місяць тому

    List is pretty spot on IMHO. I'd put the Inferno a good bit higher, but not high enough to matter that much. Ion is definitely F tier garbage right now. Mine's probably getting melted for some alien ships.

  • @Gibby0825
    @Gibby0825 Місяць тому

    Great tier list!! We gotta get yogi on the horn to fix his beef with the sabre. poor thing is doing it best but it just is so bad

  • @hawkofthereborn43
    @hawkofthereborn43 Місяць тому

    As an F7A mk II owner, so happy for that nerf. Bonking my head on the sides of my cockpit canopy was super frustrating in the slightest touches.

  • @SgtHack802
    @SgtHack802 Місяць тому +1

    Hey Virg!!!

  • @eparock
    @eparock 29 днів тому +1

    where does the glaive sit? or did i just miss you explaining it?

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  29 днів тому +1

      Early D, turns out the website didn’t have it so I forgot. But I ended up placing it in D because it doesn’t have autogimbal (which the fixed aiming system uses regardless)

  • @xxyxxyyyx
    @xxyxxyyyx Місяць тому

    so noob here what is interceptor tuning and how would you use it? and for what?

    • @blackmamba___
      @blackmamba___ Місяць тому

      Just means its an interceptor ship. Built for speed.

  • @FearAngryTrees
    @FearAngryTrees Місяць тому

    I tried the Avenger Titan a bit and if the Bucc is placed on A tier, I feel the Titan/Stalker should be placed at C or D tier. Compared to the Bucc the Titan has a larger crosssection to hit (disadvantage), it has less weapons (disadvantage) but it is faster and has a smaller signature compared to the Bucc (which you can see from ages away). Since Interceptors are kinda useless once someone pays attention to them, a smaller crosssection helps to receive less attention. Also, even though the guns are less than the Bucc its still a decent loadout.

  • @DevouringKing
    @DevouringKing Місяць тому

    This is the True pvp Tierlist.
    Hornet is Overpowered. Best Burst after F8 Lightning, more agile then Avengers and high health and strong capacitors, combined with solid Speed & Gs

  • @CopperRavenProductions
    @CopperRavenProductions Місяць тому

    Where is the Glaive? I was curious as to your thoughts

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +1

      It wasn’t on the website but I ranked it inside E after the video. Apologies, good ship but nothing special

    • @CopperRavenProductions
      @CopperRavenProductions Місяць тому

      @@Ver9jl Ok first off, damn.
      Secondly I just watched your video on the duping exploit. I could not have agreed more. In fact I will add it is on selfish behavior. I have played games that are on full release. The excuse is, it is the devs fault. They should not have the problem in the game, why should we get punished. We helped them find it
      The truth is, they do not care. They do not care how it hurts the game. How ot negatively impacts players. They want their gold, uec, credit and ect.
      The me mentality is strong on a small ( noy so small) portion of people.
      These are the very ones who are complaining, because they do not care.
      I agree about the wipe and I had a ghost and had no clue.

  • @IXxJordan
    @IXxJordan 16 днів тому

    Drop Corsair down to B, it only works in groups. Solo against a fighter it just dies since it has such a slow rotation speed

  • @ItsAustin07
    @ItsAustin07 Місяць тому +1

    No glaive? would love to know your thoughts on it

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +1

      I think it's like D tier, the issue is the weapon convergence from no gimbals. The new aiming system leans on gimbals to work. But the sheer damage of the cannons are compelling.
      D or around there

  • @WhiteSaltine01
    @WhiteSaltine01 Місяць тому

    All I’m wondering is when the nerf hammer will strike the F7A and other hornets? How far will they fall?

    • @Velthus
      @Velthus Місяць тому

      When engineering/resource network comes in is my guess, so they stop allowing throwing high energy consumption weapons to be thrown on a ship that has the ability to throw up to 6 cannons on them.
      That's the hope anyway...

  • @livlive2919
    @livlive2919 Місяць тому +2

    OPSEC!....123!

    • @SaintNyx
      @SaintNyx Місяць тому +1

      OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC

  • @M0HANRAJ
    @M0HANRAJ Місяць тому +1

    Great video, next time try and have it so you don't need to scroll up and down. Otherwise great!

  • @Xceedpvp
    @Xceedpvp 11 днів тому

    Hate to see it my arrow is forever at the bottom of every list i look at =\

  • @The_Diginaut
    @The_Diginaut Місяць тому

    I feel like the Talon could easily be A tier. 18k hull HP (nearly the same as the Hornet) agile as fuck, small crossection, decent damage? It's the new Arrow imo. And it can straight BULLY Hornets in atmo
    Also the Cutty Steel has more hull HP than a Corsair now, like 108k

  • @VictorianVII
    @VictorianVII Місяць тому

    you missed the 325a

  • @518UN4
    @518UN4 29 днів тому

    Im a noob pilot and tried squadron battle a few times the past days using my Gladius. My goal was to focus on getting behind people but for some reason I just can't. Is backstrafing so strong that I can't get behind a F7A even while boosting? I feel like I'm retarded or something.

  • @Kaykko.
    @Kaykko. Місяць тому +1

    No race cars? tf? 🤣

  • @kingofgame9263
    @kingofgame9263 29 днів тому

    in my experience the sabre really good at atmosphere maybe the best in there class, i agree f7c mk2 better than f7a mk2

  • @0BLACKESTFUN0
    @0BLACKESTFUN0 Місяць тому

    hm heavy fighters rly need some love :( My poor vanguard , i get called scumbag by Shadow Moses cuz i backstrafe and throwing emps at him xD (the only shit i rly can do now in that ship xD ). Gawd damn they just need to buff maneuvering thrusts so you can just strafe better than light fighters than you would solve the problem of balancing heavies with their awfullness wich resembles just worse controls of a medium fighter .

  • @Ha1rD1aper
    @Ha1rD1aper Місяць тому

    shits and giggles aside, Tana actually isn't that bad. the ship itself has a learning curve to it, though. has consistently been better than Titan for me.

  • @Billybob-go8hn
    @Billybob-go8hn Місяць тому +5

    Def better than a1's

  • @Samesosass
    @Samesosass Місяць тому

    The buccaneer is great to add dps... not go head on.. its fast for a reason
    The corsair gets killed by the redeemer not sure why you put redeemer lower.

  • @RayHorn5128088056
    @RayHorn5128088056 Місяць тому

    The Hornet is S tier until CiG wants more money for a better ship that will be better for a short time. Such is life in a very successful fundraiser. Lol.

  • @laughingman630
    @laughingman630 Місяць тому

    I thought the 325a is a pretty decent pvp ship def better then the tana

  • @kiteklat3846
    @kiteklat3846 Місяць тому

    didnt you see the vid on avenger1 playing teamfight buccanners vs hornets? hornet loose everytime no mater what player are in the ships. Speed keeps you alive and is way more profitable than raw firepower in master modes. bucc only can flee? dude you can string, you can merge you can evade and let your wingmen take out that heavy hornet.

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому

      I’ve seen the video and I think it was just too soon for that video, on multiple occasions the hornets beat a squad of buccaneers. Hornets over buccs

  • @mynameisray
    @mynameisray День тому

    I guess if you've got skill issues the Buc isn't good at 1v1s..

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  День тому

      Do you know what channel you're watching? lol. It's a terrible 1v1 ship, end of story. Can't even take the shields off a hornet before it gets decimated.

  • @Praetoreon
    @Praetoreon Місяць тому

    This list is depressing.
    Maybe it’s time to take a break and prep for Shadow of the Erdtree….

  • @rakaydosdraj8405
    @rakaydosdraj8405 Місяць тому

    I notice you seem to dismiss a few ships as "non-competitive" for reasons that dont relate to their actual combat ability. Just becaausethey do things OTHER than fighting doesnt mean they arnt at least C tier at fighting, but you're downgrading the Vanguards because they have an interior (and in the future, engineering gameplay), without even talking about them in relation to the Hurricane.

  • @Shakalakahiki8
    @Shakalakahiki8 Місяць тому

    123
    People sleep on the hammerhead because they put 7 people in it and get got. But you want 2 people. 1 Gunner in the top turret and 64 rattlers for the pilot. Combine that with a Corsair or Mk2 and you actually have a very strong fleet composition. From there you can build out with every new ship.
    Also, great job on this tier list. It feels very close to my experience in the PU.

    • @Shakalakahiki8
      @Shakalakahiki8 Місяць тому

      Also, the 890 is being slept on. If you bring lasers against it the thing has 1.5 million shields that can be boosted to an effective 3 million. The thing will tank lasers all day long.
      It is vulnerable to ramming and ballistics though. I wish it got buffed to 200k HP hull

  • @BobBarker_SC
    @BobBarker_SC Місяць тому +1

    Firebird is clearly F tier, maybe not even supposed to be on the list smh

    • @Brian-us2xz
      @Brian-us2xz Місяць тому

      I have had a lot of success in the firebird. You are guaranteed to kill at least one person with minimal risk.

    • @IIITangentIII
      @IIITangentIII Місяць тому

      Either you're joking or you just really bad. Either way I keep up the great work!

  • @JR-er4so
    @JR-er4so Місяць тому

    firebird uis fking gaRBAGE :) THE MISSLES DONT HIT SHZZZ:) ALL PPL HAVE TO DO IS PRESS H THE WONDER BUTTON H LOL

  • @Thungur1337
    @Thungur1337 22 дні тому +1

    The game is seriously in the worst state it has ever been. its supposed to be this great engaging space sim style game but it feels like im flying a jet in battlefield 3 but worse. nothing about the current flight model feels good.
    cant even get back into the game after the patch.

  • @victimUK
    @victimUK Місяць тому +3

    Why do you hate avenger one so much?

    • @Ver9jl
      @Ver9jl  Місяць тому +1

      I don’t

    • @victimUK
      @victimUK Місяць тому +1

      @@Ver9jl I've been watching you a lot lately and every time someone mentions him you get... I won't say triggered but you do immediately swap to negative and throw up a wall

    • @t3hMaraud3r
      @t3hMaraud3r Місяць тому +1

      ​@victimUK I don't have the same impression. I do see a lot of keyboard warriors trying to provoke / fabricate / exaggerate rivalries.
      @Ver9jl you seem a calm and rational dude, stumbled upon your content just recently. Love it, keep it up.

  • @Stellar-Nucleosynthesis
    @Stellar-Nucleosynthesis Місяць тому

    I would put the Bucc in D tier lol.
    I have absolutely destroyed them all in PVP encounters, I'm no good pilot either. I'm not sure what shit people were smoking when they said it was the best and broke the game.

  • @dmxcom
    @dmxcom Місяць тому +2

    Finally