Barbour Northumbria Review Thornproof or Sylkoil? | Wax and Tartans
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2020
- Full overview of the original Northumbria and the Classic Northumbria .
Massive thank you to County Clothes for loaning me the Classic Northumbria for this video!
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My Border I've had from new is over 30 years old. Unfortunately I didn't look after it and needs a number of repairs and a wax. The work involved would be somewhere around the £200 mark. I love it to bits. Worn it every year since and pushed it through impenetrable Blackthorn, Hawthorn, Brambles, Barbed wire. You name it this jacket has been through it. I managed to get hold of an old style Northumbria 3 years ago and have been wearing that (mostly). The main differences I found are.
The weight - The Border is significantly lighter and if, like me, you cover a considerable number of miles on the dog walk you'll notice it.
The warmth - The Northumbria is noticeably warmer due to the lining, of course. Again, on long dog walks I tend to over heat and sometimes my back gets clammy even when the jacket is unzipped. This also alters the weight distribution on the shoulders and does feel awkward.
The fit - Due to the built in thicker lining in the Northumbria it is actually a tighter fit then my Border.
I find that I can 'layer' more clothes under the Border jacket then the Northumbria.
Both very very good jackets (mine both made in England).
But for me, where I live and what I need the jacket for Border wins. That's solely because I live in the South of the UK and cover miles with the dog.
Northumbria wins when the weather is cold/very cold, live up North maybe. I did take it to Scotland in October and it was perfect.
Great video . Enjoy your jacket..
Just been given one of these by an old farmer family friend.
Was so impressed by it that I decided to find out a bit more about them. Glad others appreciate it also and thank you for the info!
Hi there, I like the comparison. I have a 2 crest Northumbria which means it’s from between 1982 and 1987. Wear it with the teddy button-in linning and a Liddesdale underneath when it’s really really cold. Next to my “new” and a really old Beaufort my favorit jacket. It’s a heavy jacket but it’s fun to wear. And the pockets are really big and take about anything.
The used prices are way beyond 20Pounds though. I bought mine in 2019 for €80,- in very good condition without holes or repairs. At the moment the asking prices online are between €60 and €135 depending on the condition (01.03.2021).
Everybody, enjoy your barbours!
Thanks for posting this, many years ago I had a barbour jacket with red tartan like the one you showed. it may have been an imitation, as I don't recall the royal crests on the label. It was a good jacket but I neglected it and it deteriorated after a few years. Now I want another.
Great jacket. I have a c40 Northumbria from 87, it is getting a re-wax this weekend! Cheers
Vintage everytime for me, I'm currently sporting a mid 90s border in navy.
I'm definitely going to be getting a vintage thornproof Northumbria for next winter, I've had other wax jackets previously but now I've got a couple of Barbour's I don't wear anything else and probably won't until the summer.
I love your videos almost as much as my border.
Agree completely. I only buy vintage Barbour and I would wear them in the summer if I could haha. The fit, details and tartans are so much better on vintage. I have a Beaufort from 99 and a Gamefair from late 80's - Northumbria's on my list too.
@Normal As obviously you do or you wouldn't have commented 'mate'
@Normal As your gay pal.
@Normal As non sequitur simpleton 😉🤣
Good video footage there :-) I've an old A400 and a newer Classic cotton lined . The A400 is quite warm . Beauchamp A186 is terrific too . Bought one new back in '03 in Chester . It was expensive and didn't sell for long .
I bought a brown Northumbria in the early 80s, it had to go back to Barbour once as the zip jammed which made it quite difficult to get out of. It was returned with some quite obvious patches over a few holes it had developed but although not pretty it still keeps the rain out. It has been my fishing jacket all this time so has not had an easy life. I do find it becomes a little stiff in winter compared to lighter weight jackets. I have just bought an old Border jacket for casual use. I tried a new Northumbria but it just wasn’t the same.
Original every time! Great review....one of the best Barbours...(got a few)This ones a keeper
nice vid .. the northumbria is on my list ... i have a border . a gladwell . corbrigid .. and a lutz ... love them all ..
Go for another model imho, as its pretty much the same one but beefier.
i have the lutz and it is cool as a cucumber...love it...but not for the deep pennine walks....for that i use barbour international quilted 8 0z jacket
Just found a „new“ Northumbria (without Classic). Never worn. My size (48). Sage, McKinnon-wool-acrylic-tartan, studs for the A295 lining. I asked Barbour, when this jacket was made or when the original Northumbria was discontinued. They said they don’t know.
The old Northumbria is really the best jacket (for cold days) they ever made. A Northumbria and an unlined Durham takes you through the whole year.
Ive just change from a 20 y.o. Border to a barely worn used Northumbri, newer model with zippers for the waiscoat/ linen. And i like it better.Only thing is I will change the storm cuffs with regular jumper ones to make it the perfect Barbour
Im in agreement with you, the storm cuffs are garbage.
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I have a Border from 1992. It has the same lining as the newer one you showed.
l've worn Barbour thornproofs for over 50 years and while the original Northumbria is good the later waxed jackets have gone a bit soft, ie cottoned lined pockets that if they get wet inside take a while to dry, on my Waxed Berwick l put some dog biscuits in the pocket which were a bit oily and this seeped into the cotton lining and was bad enough to make me cut out the linings in both pockets, unfortunately the best thornproof Barbour made is no longer available,and that is the Solway Zipper, my uncle bought one in 1961 l think an was still wearing it 50 years later, absolutely bombproof.
Last week I pulled my Solway Zipper out of the attic, as my Daughter has expressed an interest in "Vintage" clothes. I fixed a small tear earlier, and I will rewax it tonight. Proper green supply chain, no "fast fashion", or weird plastics in the world. That jacket served me well in nightclubs, and on the hill in Kerry (after Sika and Red deer). Delighted it can now go to the second generation and still be functional and fashionable (thanks "Stranger Things" :-) )
Love my Northumbria. Mine's a brown version but I'm uncertain on how to correctly age the jacket. It's definitely an old one though. Just think the hand warmer pockets are a little to far back when trying to get your hands in, apart from that it's a keeper for sure!
If it has a label with a barcode, on the reverse and usually above the washing instruction symbols, the first two numbers signify the date of manufacture i.e. 8812458-064-0012 would be 1988. If there is no barcode, post 1974 there is one royal warrant. Post 82 two warrants were used. By 1988 there were three warrants on the labels. Hope this helps.
@@BB-rh3bk Thank you very for your reply and indepth information. 👍
Vintage Thornproof everytime.
Do the jackets break in or “loosen” over time?
I’m right in between a 38 & 40, with the 38 fitting better around the mid torso but being tighter across the back when reaching forward. The 40 looks oversized but better in the upper torso
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Hi, just bought a Northumbria, totally get the used look of better, it looks far too clean and unmarked next to my other barbours! I found that it is made in Bulgaria, inside the Velcro inside pocket are a pile of black labels, on the back of the last one it says made in Bulgaria.
Looking forward to giving this coat my own “worn look” over the next few years!
My Northumbria 2023 was made in Bulgaria =)
I think the lining is wool, great vid thanks.
Keith Armitage I thought so as well. But 85% cotton, 15% other fibres.
@@WaxandTartans I looked at a label too, 60% cotton, 16% acrylic and 24% other fibres. Definitely not wool!
Nope! A full woollen lining would be so much better.
Incidentally , the A400 lining is MacKinnon tartan
Great review, I have a Vintage 80's Northumbria I picked up on ebay, I was wondering, do you know if the game pocket inserts from a Border will also work in a Northumbria ? atb Sev
Yep, they will.
@@WaxandTartans many thanks
I’ve had the original Northumbria for over 30 years and I would never part with it.
My Barbour 'Northumbria,' bought for a mere £5 at a local carboot sale, had some of the royal warranty label cut out... WHY?
Not sure! Maybe they didn’t want them in. But £5 is a bargain.
Really enjoyed your video. Just bought an original Northumbria, my first ever Barbour. Would love to know if there's any way of dating them.
Should be a little white tag underneath the main label. Flip it and find the barcode. The first two numbers are the year it was made.
Thanks for the tip. Just arrived in today's post. Was made in 1995. £42 + postage from eBay. Good condition but rather whiffy! Have watched videos on rewaxing, a job for me in the next few days. What advice would you give? You must have done it a good few times by now.
@@DavidMartin-fy7rn I recently acquired a mid 90s border in navy that was in excellent condition, what I do is Hoover out the pockets and lining, then on the outside I brush them with a soft shoe brush, wipe them down with cold water, followed by a rewax with heated liquid wax, I use the gold label it doesn't smell, not that the smell bothers me but it's allot cheaper and I really like it, after it's been rewaxed go over it with a powerful hair dryer and wipe off any excess, this process will bring the jacket up with a factory finish whilst not losing any of the patina and character that a used Barbour will already have👍
I absolutely love my border jacket, I think a used vintage one looks way better than a brand new one, I don't like the embroidered logo on the pocket and I prefer the traditional tartan linings.
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An excellent review, thank you.
Would you kindly state what make of shirt you are wearung.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Kind regards.
Hey! Thank you. It’s a long sleeve polo from Tom Ford.
Wax and Tartans.
I am most grateful for your expeditious reply, thank you.
@@WaxandTartans Good condition pre royal warrant Barbour thornproofs go for a lot of money on E bay, one yellow label Solway Zipper with belt and hood went for over £500!! l was offered £150 for my 1979 thornproof game bag a couple of years ago, l still have it!!!!
@@clooperman3745 they really do, mostly to do with the Japanese buyers. They buy as many as they can for ridiculous prices.
the northumbria like this one from 80s / 90s in my opinion is the best jacket barbour has ever made, proper jacket that does what it says on tin ,...the bedales and beauforts etc are a bit poncey equestrian, the solway zipper is good (stopped making now) but not better, border yes the same but not as good, the gamefair is not even worth considering
Absolutely agree. Beaufort is my favourite though.
The sleeves look fine to me. Are you able to fit a suit jacket under it?
They’re more than fine, but I’m just pedantic. Yes you can no problem at all.
You mention this is a size 40. I'm assuming you have a size 40 chest, correct? Or perhaps you sized down. I asked because it fits you quite well, though some have advised me to go one size down.
Trev Barlow hey, sorry for the late reply I’ve been travelling. I have a 40” chest in most things correct, sometimes a 42 depending on cut of the jacket. I always go true to size in Barbour wax jackets.
Thornproof is IMO the best coat for tough bashing through woods and the poacher's pockets are larger. It's like heavy armour. The sylkoil is a febrile urban imitation by comparison with pathetic poacher's pockets.
Couldn’t have said it better
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the Thornproof looks amazing! what size is that on you? 38? thanks!
Kevin Chong thanks! It’s a 40.
1:25 'I wear a 40'
'... They're for the animals as well..' 😂😂😂
It sounds funny but it's not a joke :P
there is an actual barbour dog coat.
no poachers pocket?
Inside there are two
Original, everytime! The newer versions just fail for me, the quality isn't there, and I don't like that the ones made in other places, Barbour aren't honest about and yet they're still charging the made in England prices for them.
I bought my Barbour believing it was made in the U.K. It's got the royal crests and the Union Jack, it didn't say it was made abroad and it's a British company. Not until I'd already bought it I found out it's made in Eastern Europe. I'm very disappointed with Barbour and I believe they are intentionally misleading the public into believing they are made in the U.K. Very sly and dishonest of them not to label the product with where it is made
I sadly agree with you, such is modern day business... Integrity doesn't seem to be a respectable asset these days and more often a handicap, we live in sad times I think things really need to change. I have 2 international trails jackets one is made in England the other doesn't say, I'm sure it's made abroad I like it, don't get me wrong but I can tell because the construction isn't the same. Luckily I didn't pay too much for it but I was under the impression it was made in South Shields.
@@northernthrifter8817 if it doesn't state England on the label, then it's made elsewhere. Many have "Tunisia" on the card/ ticket, that's attached if bought new. Only one line of stitching seems to be a problem with those not made in England, and is easy to see if you know what you're looking for. The price of origins has rocketed on ebay, and even badly damaged ones are lots of money. I've recently bought three old Durhams, ones a unliined one, and the newer ones are only 4oz weight waxed cotton, and the old ones a much better 6oz, and a blackwatch tartan lining.
@@jmw5220 I do cleaning and rewaxing if you ever need it.
What line of stitching are you referring to?
The bottom of the zip?
I've recently got a 94 border and a 92 beaufort, they're fantastic pieces. I've rewaxed some of the off shore 4oz jackets the lifestyle line, really second rate construction and matierials compared to the vintage pieces.
@@northernthrifter8817 Hi, the seams.aren't double stitched on the foreign made ones. I saw a pic of a modern.one that had the waist.cord, placed next to a English jacket, and he pointed.out the difference of the single.stitching on the waist, also arm seams and tension points were single stitched. I wax my own jackets, but thanks for.mentioning it.
@@jmw5220 l still have a Durham somewhere l bought around 1976, unlined and made from flyweight thornproof fabric which is now called 4oz or lightweight, l also have 2 lined versions, one in blackwatch when Barbour first brought out the lined version and a later one lined in classic tartan l think with the internal liner zips, both the lined versions are made in the same flyweight thornproof fabric as my original.
I was going to buy one but it has to be made in England so that’s put paid to that. How sad.
It’s the way of the world these days unfortunately. I’ve had one of the new ones and so have a few friends of mine, not one complaint. Very good.
Improve the sound please
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