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  • Опубліковано 4 лют 2017
  • Ask This Old House master electrician Scott Caron turns a shed into a powered-up hangout by running electricity underground.
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    Time: 1-2 days
    Cost: $4000-5000
    Skill Level:
    Difficult
    Tools:
    Trenching machine
    Shovel
    Propane torch
    Concrete mixer
    Hole Saw
    Drill/Driver
    Screwdriver
    Shopping List:
    1 ½-inch PVC conduit pipe
    PVC junction boxes
    UF 6-gauge electrical wire
    UF 6-4 electrical wire
    NM 14-2 electrical wire
    Electrical wiring boxes
    Breakers
    Electrical Sub Panel
    Masonry screws
    Steps:
    1. A project like this should only be performed by a licensed electrician.
    2. Before digging, call the utility locating service to mark any underground pipes or wires.
    3. Begin by digging a trench from the house to the shed. This can be done with a trenching machine or a shovel. The trench should be 18 inches deep to bury electrical conduit according to code. In some cases, you may not be able to reach that depth due to site conditions.
    4. Spread out a layer of sand into the trench to protect the conduit from sharp rocks.
    5. Lay out the lengths of 1 ½-inch PVC conduit to go from the house to the shed.
    6. Use PVC cement solution to coat the inside of each pipe and connect them together.
    7. To make the PVC pipe conform changes in grade, use a propane torch to heat the pipe and make it pliable.
    8. Form the shapes needed and lay the PVC conduit in the trench.
    9. Use 90 degree PVC fittings to connect the underground pipe to the side of the house and shed.
    10. Use a drill/driver, masonry screws and clips to attach the pipes to the side of the house and shed.
    11. Use a hole saw to carve out a hole to feed the pipe and junction box into the side of the house and the shed.
    12. Add a second layer of sand over the pipe in the trench to act as a warning in case anyone accidentally digs in the area and then cover that sand with caution tape.
    13. Mix concrete with water and cover any conduit that did not reach a depth of 18 inches due to site conditions.
    14. When the concrete dries, back fill the trench with old and new soil.
    15. Feed fish tape from one side of the PVC pipe to the other. This will be used to pull up the electrical wires.
    16. Tie a thin rope to the fish tape at the opposite end and pull that back through.
    17. At the shed, use electrical tape to tie the 4 individual UF, 6-gauge wires (2 hots, neutral and ground) and feed them back through the conduit.
    18. Mount a sub panel in the shed and tie on a braided 6-4 UF wire.
    19. Connect the individual wires to each braided corresponding 6-4 wire using insulated connectors in a junction box.
    20. The ground wire and the neutral wire will terminate in different spots in the subpanel. Connect them to the appropriate terminal with a screwdriver.
    21. Tie in both hot wires to opposite sides of busbar, allowing 120 volts to 3 different breakers on both sides.
    22. Attach desired electrical wire boxes throughout the shed for lights, light switches and outlets.
    23. Run 14-2 NM wires throughout the shed and tie them through electrical wire boxes.
    24. Attach any desired fixtures in the shed or on outside and run wire as needed.
    25. Tie in 14-2 NM wires from fixtures and receptacles into sub panel breakers as needed.
    26. Turn off the electricity inside the home at the main breaker panel.
    27. Connect both hot 6-gauge UF wires to new 60 Amp breaker inside main breaker panel in the home.
    28. Connect the neutral 6-gauge wire to the neutral bar inside main breaker.
    29. Connect the ground 6-gauge wire to to ground bar inside the main breaker.
    30. Turn the power back on inside the home at the main breaker panel.
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  • @jamesmartello1827
    @jamesmartello1827 2 роки тому +91

    I can tell you one thing I was as electrical contractor in the Chicago area and I’ve never seen a sand base and concrete and warning tape installed in any trench I’ve done or anyone else has done. We used either rigid, iMac or pvc where the local codes allowed. I’m not sure if anyone could afford the work to the garage if I had to do all those steps. The coolest part of the video was the pvc heater to bend the pvc. We used to use a straight propane torch. Maybe that’s why at 69 yrs old I’m forgetting some things because of the fumes that came off the pvc if you burned the out side of the pvc while heating if.

    • @Scrapla1
      @Scrapla1 Рік тому +1

      My dad did this work back in the 80s and said very similar things when watching this lol

    • @danjohnson2098
      @danjohnson2098 Рік тому +3

      You would have to take out a second loan on your house to afford this.Quality work no doubt.

    • @wayneagent2119
      @wayneagent2119 11 місяців тому

      Right wow

    • @johndavies2949
      @johndavies2949 7 місяців тому +1

      Well you measured your 18" wrong. The top of the pipe should be at 18". In other words 18" of cover. Therefore the depth of the trench should have been 21".

    • @Blueshirt38
      @Blueshirt38 4 місяці тому +1

      Areas all have their own code, and I'm sure you're aware of that. Same with how concrete masonry and plumbing are to vastly different codes in the south than the would be in Chicago due to the lack of constant freeze/thaw cycles.

  • @sisi1979g
    @sisi1979g Рік тому +289

    This book ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxb2mhCug-GkCWrq69Ce2I0nM0D4QpxAqu does have a lot of great information on the building of sheds, design ideas, building options, etc. The author goes through the steps to build a foundation, framing, roof, even ideas on internal storage and external finishes. The text is easy to follow and understand. There are many sidebars that give tips and advice which most laymen probably wouldn't have considered. The photographs are great quality too. This is a great book and I'd recommend it highly for anyone needing or interested in building a shed.

  • @joeny1980
    @joeny1980 3 роки тому +52

    That's alot of confidence in your work to trench, run the conduit, glue it, bury it, cement it .... And THEN feed that wire.

    • @frandanco6289
      @frandanco6289 3 роки тому +4

      Its a conduit in trench... It works that way.. The fact that he could run a fiberglass fish tape all the they way from one end to the other tells him he is good..
      Good guys always run 2 or extra when they are running anything because as we all know, you end up using them all up later..
      He did not feed the wire, he ran a rope and then pulled the wire in.. I hope he attached, or had enough rope in the conduit to help him do it again... If nothing else, a really good strong string to be able to use to pull in a new rope for later, if needed..

    • @eugenelee9096
      @eugenelee9096 2 роки тому +3

      Meanwhile I can't even trust myself to screw in the outlet cover before checking to make sure it works first

    • @artemartem1134
      @artemartem1134 2 роки тому +4

      @@frandanco6289 I for sure would have added a second pipe while I have it all dug up anyways. cable, ethernet, anything you want can go in it.

    • @nathanscandella6075
      @nathanscandella6075 3 місяці тому +1

      It’s actually a code requirement that the conduit run be complete before pulling wire, so confidence or not, you kind of have to. For PVC conduit, that means gluing before pulling wire. For a pro, that didn’t look like a particularly difficult pull.

    • @joeny1980
      @joeny1980 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nathanscandella6075 fine, glue the conduit... But backfill and concrete :)

  • @twes619
    @twes619 5 років тому +193

    Perfect how to video... Renting a trenching machine today. Just need to learn how to become a master electrician...I should be done in 5-10 years. Wish me luck!

    • @pgood7266
      @pgood7266 4 роки тому +15

      You don’t need to be an electrician to do anything you saw in this video

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 4 роки тому +3

      @@pgood7266 I think that was the joke.

    • @BigHappysPlace
      @BigHappysPlace 4 роки тому +12

      thats a long time to rent a trencher..

    • @flintsmiley9595
      @flintsmiley9595 3 роки тому +4

      3yrs left on a home depot rental ahaha

    • @ajs96350
      @ajs96350 3 роки тому +2

      And don't overload your panel like he just did.

  • @jameshawkins809
    @jameshawkins809 6 років тому +18

    I just got finished doing a project where I had to run wire underground but I was putting a GFCI outlet at 17 trees for Christmas lights for a children's hospital. He was lucky to use that machine, they didn't want use to ruin the grass so we had to roll back the sod. Was so much work but it was for the kids!

    • @SnotRocket123
      @SnotRocket123 Рік тому +2

      I’m a new parent and have had both my kids in an out of children’s hospitals the past few years. The work you all do really help us parents of sick kids to feel a bit better during hard times. Thank you!

  • @danaharris503
    @danaharris503 7 років тому +51

    Gives you a good idea what is involved, not every aspect is covered but when you think this is at least several days worth of work and the time to get inspections and they are trying to pare it down to 11 minutes I'd say that was a great video.

    • @marcbirth3987
      @marcbirth3987 Рік тому +4

      7 days? This is half a day to a day's work at most, Especially if you're using a trenching machine. I've dug trenches by hand that were 15m long at 600mm deep to do similar installs. Still took a day with 2 guys

  • @glyphic313
    @glyphic313 Рік тому +1

    I like this electrician. He talks very straightforward and simple....Great advice!

  • @therealnickroberts
    @therealnickroberts 4 роки тому +1

    ATOH always does THE BEST freaking job. Every possible scenario is considered and every guideline is met and exceeded. I'm always yelling at my TV, "THAT'S SO NIIIIICEEEE!"

  • @bobloblaw7465
    @bobloblaw7465 4 роки тому +29

    If you don't have a long enough fish tape, I use nylon pull string, tie a piece of plastic bag to the end, go to the other end of the conduit and use a vacuum. Works 90% of the time, every time.

    • @illestofdemall13
      @illestofdemall13 4 роки тому +1

      And very fast.

    • @timothygunckel7162
      @timothygunckel7162 4 роки тому +1

      I'd put the cable or pull rope through as I assemble the conduit.

    • @bobloblaw7465
      @bobloblaw7465 4 роки тому

      @@timothygunckel7162 yea that works. Much more a pain in the butt tho. I only do that in certain situations.

    • @JimDean002
      @JimDean002 3 місяці тому

      That old man showed me how do that fairly easily? One time. As you start, you have a piece of fiberglass fish rod That's at least a foot longer than your conduit joints will be. Tie your pull string to that stuff it through the first conduit so it pops out. Before you glue the joint you're at You grabbed that fiberglass rod and shoot it through into the next joint. Once you see string, you know it's all the way through. Go ahead and glue that joint and move on. Just keep doing that until you hit the end of the run. He and I had to run 500 ft. That way And it worked pretty well. Still not as fast as a vacuum and a string. But there was a box in the middle that would have interrupted that so he wanted to do it this way​@@timothygunckel7162

  • @TheMixmastamike1000
    @TheMixmastamike1000 7 років тому +18

    He is my favorite electrician from the show

  • @clownhands
    @clownhands Рік тому +2

    I don’t know why but this video shows up in my feed once a year and I watch it every time

  • @therealnickroberts
    @therealnickroberts 4 роки тому +50

    You guys have such a good UA-cam presence. So glad cause I used to watch on PBS all the time and now I watch it constantly online. Really cool to see the program adapt to the times.

  • @Mike1614b
    @Mike1614b 2 роки тому +6

    with that small 100A main service adding a few lighting circuits in the detached garage is feasible. Installing a level 2 charging station is a stretch

    • @queerdor
      @queerdor 21 день тому

      Did you add gravel to your trenches or just backfill?

  • @garydahle6963
    @garydahle6963 2 роки тому +11

    I'm glad you mentioned the 8ft ground rod, (made electrode) I would have recommended it for the shed. Even if the NEC doesn't require it.

    • @Ofthehunt
      @Ofthehunt 2 роки тому +5

      the code does tell you that you need a ground rod for a any separate structure fed by feeders or more than one branch circuit. aka this shed.

    • @joecool4656
      @joecool4656 Рік тому +1

      @@Ofthehunt Interesting. My shed is grounded to our house circuitry.

    • @oscarjr2679
      @oscarjr2679 Рік тому

      Didn’t need to run the ground wire to the house smh. Definitely needed the ground rod but not to be tied to the main panel

  • @Imacat12370
    @Imacat12370 Рік тому +4

    I was expecting a small trenching machine...Brings out the mother of all trenching machines!

  • @PapiChuloElMerengero
    @PapiChuloElMerengero 4 роки тому +22

    You guys always make it look so easy and simple....makes me believe I can do most of these things that you guys do...

    • @onlythewise1
      @onlythewise1 Рік тому +1

      practice makes it easy

    • @alittax
      @alittax 7 місяців тому

      But you can do it, too!

  • @GenX-Memories
    @GenX-Memories 7 років тому +10

    Good ol' shop rocks.

  • @fartpooboxohyeah8611
    @fartpooboxohyeah8611 2 роки тому +6

    I've had an extension cord with gfci built in going out to my shed for at least ten years, lol. It's run out the basement window along and between our fence and the shrubs to the shed. I check it every couple of years or so and it's still in good shape.

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 2 роки тому

      How does that handle charging your Tesla?

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 2 роки тому

      @Benjamin Burlos might provide 5-6 miles per hour of charge, but I doubt you could find an evse that runs 20+ amps @120 volts. Not a bad idea but 240volt service would be ideal, especially in this case. The only extraordinary expense is the trenching. IMO this was a good investment if they will be buying an electric car (or two)

    • @garybrown7044
      @garybrown7044 2 роки тому

      are you a retired electrician, ha, ha!

  • @chrishulse5305
    @chrishulse5305 6 років тому +1

    Living in England we generally use steel wire armoured cable for direct burial underground, no need for any additional protection, also we have 240v single phase so only need to run 3 wires instead of four, if we had two phases it would give us 415v!
    Always interesting to see how things are done differently across the pond.

  • @getoffyourbassandletsfish7651
    @getoffyourbassandletsfish7651 6 років тому +1

    We used extension cords duct taped together about a foot under ground leading from an outlet. Only accidentally dug it up twice but not fully threw orange extension cord.

  • @jonton6541
    @jonton6541 2 роки тому +4

    Love how Scott works and his explanation as he goes. Is he still with the show?

    • @TjStammen
      @TjStammen Рік тому

      I don’t think he is still on the show now the knew electric videos are with a different electrician

  • @Chopwoodcarrywater
    @Chopwoodcarrywater 7 років тому +34

    I've been watching this show for 20 years. I learn something every time.

    • @semsemwood187
      @semsemwood187 3 роки тому

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  • @SilverCymbal
    @SilverCymbal 5 років тому +2

    These videos are so helpful - They inspired so many of my own videos!

  • @SuperJollyJ
    @SuperJollyJ 7 років тому +5

    Nice bowline knot after the fish tape. Has This Old House ever done a show on knots and rigging?

  • @killawatt8243
    @killawatt8243 4 роки тому +7

    Love it! Had no idea if it went shallow to cover it with some concrete

  • @stevenpersinger6577
    @stevenpersinger6577 2 роки тому +7

    He said it's a little tricky to run a conduit from the box to the panel after he just trenches an underground feeder. He should run the pipe to pull wire all the way with no terminations. Way easier and safer

  • @frandanco6289
    @frandanco6289 3 роки тому

    That shed should be insulated and drywalled, finished, and painted.. A nice shade of white will also brighten and reflect the light better in there... Electrician did a perfect job.. Thank you..

  • @JungleYT
    @JungleYT 4 роки тому

    I have 120VAC running from the main house from a power head out to my apartment in the back - roof to roof... It's been hooked up that way since the 1950s when my Grandmom built the place for my Dad. My plan is to run a new line thru the main house attic, out the wall and jump across to the apartment thru a conduit.

  • @brandonspies
    @brandonspies Рік тому +5

    I actually want more information on that specific shed. What size did he get? That is pretty much the EXACT layout I need/want. It's perfect! Someplace to put bikes, all the garden tools, our push mower, an overflow storage for some tools that are larger when not in use such as my table saw as I mainly do automotive work. All this with a smaller sub work area would be AMAZING!! 240 isn't necessary but is a nice idea as a possibility for the future as there's no driveway where I want it but incase I want to use a 240v power tool or welder out back instead of my current garage/shop which is just overflowing with so much stuff I can't get work done without moving something always.

  • @2009mechanic
    @2009mechanic 6 років тому +12

    Also with the unheated shed , you may want to use the "No-OX" grease on all connections , even the splices in the boxes.
    Don't forget about the conduit plug duct seal compound where that conduit enters the building to keep condensation from building up and dripping out into the panel and possibly onto the main lugs.
    In this case he broke the connection by using a junction box so that wouldn't happen but would still use the sealer in the junction box where the conduit comes through.
    This would be even more important in the box at the house as it's all downhill from the shed and that's where the water will go.
    Yup , you NEED to have a ground rod at that shed service also.
    Just don't forget to remove that little green bonding screw in the neutral bar if it came with one.

  • @bugajk25
    @bugajk25 3 роки тому

    This man is frkn thorough!!!!!!!! 👍🏻
    All completely unnecessary 🤓 but I love a man who gives it his all!!!!!!

  • @timm8900
    @timm8900 4 роки тому +2

    In industrial plants the concrete is normally dyed red so that it's obvious that it is electrical if it's ever dug up.

  • @ALTNEWSUSA
    @ALTNEWSUSA 7 років тому +16

    I always use an insulated screwdrivers when attaching wires to a circuit breaker. Even though the breaker is off, it protects any contact with the charged electrified panel board.

    • @craigcorson3036
      @craigcorson3036 4 роки тому +1

      I used to work on live circuits all the time. If you know what you're doing, you don't get shocked. Mostly. 😵😬

    • @tylerhurd9569
      @tylerhurd9569 2 роки тому

      Over kill for 240 120v.

  • @tonym3082
    @tonym3082 7 років тому +213

    Never seen an electrician work so hard lol

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 3 роки тому +13

      Hmm. Well how often have you seen electricians work in general? It’s usually hard work.

    • @jxmai7687
      @jxmai7687 3 роки тому +4

      That was not very hard at all compare those in the factory. lol

    • @trevorj5772
      @trevorj5772 3 роки тому +9

      You’ve never seen a residential electrician work that hard. In commercial or industrial, that’s lights work

    • @austinfisher5477
      @austinfisher5477 2 роки тому +8

      And I think he actually cleaned up after himself lol

    • @Tierone1337
      @Tierone1337 2 роки тому

      Hahahahhahaaaaaaaa

  • @coffeeisthepathtovictory1290
    @coffeeisthepathtovictory1290 Рік тому +1

    There is no UA-cam without This Old House.

  • @twilliams6272
    @twilliams6272 7 років тому

    yes my man your technique is fire..... nice skills
    ..

  • @jasgud
    @jasgud 6 років тому +4

    @thisoldhouse fish tape is a pain when running in conduit. use twine, a plastic bag and a shopvac. tie plastic bag to twine and stuff the bag in one end of the pipe. Then on the other end of the conduit "attach" (hand hold, duct tape, whatever) the shop vac and turn it on. the bag will seal the pipe creating a vacuum and cause the bag to get sucked into the shopvac. This happens VERY quickly so watch out. This even works when wires are already in the conduit, as long as its not too full.

    • @grumpy-man
      @grumpy-man 2 роки тому +1

      I know this is old but that is genius!

  • @lrodriguez9315
    @lrodriguez9315 6 років тому +160

    all that work with some dim lights at the end

    • @Doomzdayxx
      @Doomzdayxx 4 роки тому +20

      It's broad daylight outside dum dum, of course the lights will appear dim.

    • @lrodriguez9315
      @lrodriguez9315 4 роки тому +4

      @@Doomzdayxx yeah your right must be the special effects

    • @penguin12902
      @penguin12902 4 роки тому +12

      @Phil Meup or put up a solar panel. For less than $200 I charge my tools in my shed and didn't dig up the yard. And it doesn't cost me anything on the power bill. And I have nice bright LED lights.

    • @lucas01230
      @lucas01230 4 роки тому +4

      @@penguin12902 u got any links for what you used? or general specifications what you used

    • @therealnickroberts
      @therealnickroberts 4 роки тому +1

      Really wanna see that cool barn style light at night

  • @ymaylove
    @ymaylove 7 років тому +1

    Awesome video! i saw you tie a bowline knot between guide probe and wire

  • @fischb22
    @fischb22 6 років тому +10

    when i installed mine, i went panel to panel with conduit, sucked pull string in and done.(along with a second ground rod at the sub panel)

    • @taylorlightfoot
      @taylorlightfoot 4 роки тому +2

      Brian Fischman Yeah. They weren’t very clear about the necessity for a second ground rod installed at the shed or why. They did touch on it slightly at the end, but it was not explained very well and wasn’t clear it was for at the shed.

  • @roncole2095
    @roncole2095 4 роки тому +227

    “Pretty good sized trench digger” pulls out a whole bobcat.

    • @foxfiresidechats5227
      @foxfiresidechats5227 4 роки тому +7

      I know right hahahah. Master Electrician?? More like Master Landscaper that day instead.

    • @ironmatic1
      @ironmatic1 3 роки тому +7

      Pretty much the minimum size trencher in south-central Texas if your site hasn’t been engineered and graded to hell and back.

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 3 роки тому

      It wasn’t an understatement. They come a lot bigger than that.

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 3 роки тому +1

      Fox Fireside Chats yep. A lot of people are surprised to learn the huge variety of tasks electricians undertake that don’t involve twisting wires together. Seems like you’re one of those people. I’m glad you learned something.

    • @ironmatic1
      @ironmatic1 3 роки тому

      @@RB-xv4si Yep, huge Vermeer crawler trenchers are standard fare on most every construction site.

  • @trevorschiavone8395
    @trevorschiavone8395 3 роки тому +3

    This homeowner really took advantage on TOH. Sometimes I cringe at what people are on this show for , but this guy...he asked for their help with a project that probably would have costed thousands

  • @911alps
    @911alps 7 років тому

    Wow luv that trench digging machine

  • @j.aguilar8430
    @j.aguilar8430 4 роки тому +2

    The trench I believe is for the new fondation twin tower's awesome 😉

  • @jaycahow4667
    @jaycahow4667 Рік тому +5

    So the house has 100Amp service and you run 60Amps to the shed. Maybe you should have suggested they get upgraded to 200Amp service for the main panel like most modern houses so they have power to spare. You also could have run 6 Gauge UF-B underground rated wire in the conduit as well. It looks like he used expansion couplings where the conduit came out of the ground as well. It would have been nice to see the final sub panel with the surge protection and breakers installed.

    • @fnhwk
      @fnhwk 4 місяці тому

      No you could not have pulled 6/3 UF through all that conduit. That statement alone tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Making your entire, lengthy comment useless. Sorry

    • @jaycahow4667
      @jaycahow4667 4 місяці тому +1

      @@fnhwk I would have used larger conduit and wire lube and it would have pulled just fine. Four lines is lengthy comment for you (it could have been a lot longer), life must be tough with the attention span of a three year old..............

  • @mfsolutions
    @mfsolutions 4 роки тому +5

    I am not an electrician but I have wired 5 houses including panel/entrance under inspection so I know a bit about panels and subpanels. The only thing I have been asked to do better was put more putty in the conduit where the conductors enter the LB from outside. I can see this as a major problem especially with the elevation difference. cold metal cables in an open ended conduit means condensation... That lower junction box will fill with water... or did I miss the packing with putty?

    • @Gruntled2001
      @Gruntled2001 2 роки тому +1

      Considering the difference in elevation and the pressure that water with that much head will create, it will push any putty out. You are much better off drilling a small drainage hole (or two) in the bottom of that LB. NEC says that too (to provide for proper drainage)

  • @nav5897
    @nav5897 4 роки тому

    Great service thanks for sharing

  • @bwc2000
    @bwc2000 2 роки тому

    It's like way over my head with this voltage stuff..but it's actually nice to have someone talk about electric now in this old house

  • @nathanross7489
    @nathanross7489 4 роки тому +36

    I just love when all these videos don’t have a single rock in the soil! That’s about all we have is rocks.

    • @AshleyN654420091
      @AshleyN654420091 4 роки тому +4

      Lol, right

    • @MrJoshdavis99
      @MrJoshdavis99 4 роки тому +9

      The way these shows show it, it's as easy as building in Minecraft

    • @charinabottae
      @charinabottae 4 роки тому +1

      Well... that ain't the fault of This Old House, or the homeowner they are working with. Kind of odd critiquing a video based on where you chose to live.

    • @jasonverrastro1709
      @jasonverrastro1709 4 роки тому +2

      And nobody ever busts a knuckle or throws there tools.

    • @brandonGCHACHU
      @brandonGCHACHU 4 роки тому

      Good thing is your house will probably never be swallowed by a sinkhole lol

  • @Dennis.5150
    @Dennis.5150 4 роки тому +17

    Measurements are from the top of the conduit to grade not from the bottom of the trench with partial sand fill (See 2017 NEC Table 300.5, note 1)

    • @oldtimer3180
      @oldtimer3180 2 роки тому +2

      BUT, BUT he is a Master Electrician. So a bit of help Dig 24 " than 6" of sand then bury and have the Tape a few inches below the surface. He may be on You Tube but I would have FAILED the trench. The line to the shed is not going to supply enough to run a a car charger. . Another FAIL

  • @poppiarlin5612
    @poppiarlin5612 3 роки тому

    I have seen where direct burial wire was laid, then a small layer of dirt, then conduit. The conduit provides a warning and extra protection.

  • @heroknaderi
    @heroknaderi 5 років тому +2

    Very Helpful Thank you.

  • @ozzy2753
    @ozzy2753 7 років тому +6

    Awesome, useful for when I build my garage. Thanks!

  • @johnroberts9560
    @johnroberts9560 4 роки тому +9

    Hi TOH , I love this episode cause it shows Roger Cook , I hope he is doing better with his health problems !!! 👍😘🛠

  • @JustJoe36
    @JustJoe36 2 роки тому +1

    Did anyone else see that bowline? Truly a professional!

  • @waltmooredanwilson8754
    @waltmooredanwilson8754 Рік тому

    Great video. Very informative. Thanks for sharing. God Bless.

  • @cudatom9290
    @cudatom9290 3 роки тому +8

    Whats up with the concrete 2" from the surface?
    So you can always know where the trench was by the color of the grass.

  • @jeffdege4786
    @jeffdege4786 4 роки тому +6

    One thing I didn't see mentioned in this - 811.
    You're running underground facilities yourself. This means you're going to have private facilities in your backyard.
    And private facilities means that the utility locators - 811 - will _not_ locate it for you. That is, if you call 811 and they come out and mark your backyard, they will not mark your new electrical cable.
    You need to remember that it's there, and tell any new owners.
    As a general rule, if you have electrical power in your garage, and don't have a meter in your garage, you can assume that you have private underground facilities.
    If you don't know where it is, you need to hire a private locator, because the utilities won't know about it.

    • @tubeyou0925
      @tubeyou0925 4 роки тому

      what? at 2:41...

    • @jeffdege4786
      @jeffdege4786 4 роки тому +4

      @@tubeyou0925 At 2:41 they mentioned calling the "utility locating service", which is 811.
      What they don't mention is that 811 forwards locate requests to the utilities that have undergoing facilities in your area, and that each will come out and locate their facilities, but that the utilities will _not_ locate facilities that they didn't place and aren't aware of.
      If you bury electric cable yourself, or if any prior owner had buried cable, calling 811 is not enough. The electric company didn't bury it, they don't know that it's there, and they won't come out and tell you where it is.
      You need to call 811 before you dig, but you also need to be aware that any private facilities are your responsibility. 811 won't locate them for you.

    • @christophereaton4694
      @christophereaton4694 3 роки тому

      That's why they put in the caution tape.

  • @jayrmahidlawon5092
    @jayrmahidlawon5092 3 роки тому

    scott caron is a great electrician,,,,

  • @internetpolice1166
    @internetpolice1166 6 років тому +1

    I wish you guys could do this to my pole barn. This is exactly what I want done and don't have the tools or trust in myself to do this job.

    • @guitarsrcool4922
      @guitarsrcool4922 4 роки тому +4

      Pole barn? You keep a stripper in your garage?

  • @caleberwin65
    @caleberwin65 2 роки тому +4

    UA-cam university can not be beaten for the price.

  • @monstersofthemidway7125
    @monstersofthemidway7125 2 роки тому +5

    After watching that video, I still have many, many questions that were not touched upon for example:
    - Why PVC rather than RIDGID conduit?
    - What schedule is acceptable for underground PVC?
    - Required permit not mentioned (comment)
    - Required county inspection not mentioned (comment)
    - If only one circuit is needed to the out building, is 6GA wire still required?
    - Is UF cable acceptable for all underground applications?
    - Etc., Etc., Etc.

    • @ryansaunchegraw2836
      @ryansaunchegraw2836 2 роки тому +1

      Don't do diy electric especially with only this guy's video... These videos should be banned

  • @litiviousspartus4611
    @litiviousspartus4611 4 роки тому

    Love this show.

  • @LosoIAm
    @LosoIAm 4 роки тому

    Awesome video, thank you!

  • @drajah1986
    @drajah1986 4 роки тому +12

    I pull string as I install the conduit. It's strung and ready to pull wire after install. Much easier

    • @stevenhudson3545
      @stevenhudson3545 4 роки тому +6

      Thats pointless push a fish tape thru there

    • @drajah1986
      @drajah1986 4 роки тому +2

      @@stevenhudson3545 you feed and you reel a fish tape. You don't "pull" it. Experience will teach you this

    • @spelunkerd
      @spelunkerd 3 роки тому

      Doesn't that add the risk of extruded PVC glue inside the conduit sticking to the string?

  • @KitchenerLeslie2
    @KitchenerLeslie2 4 роки тому +185

    My favorite part of this is when he forgot to do a ground rod and pretended later that he put one in.

    • @CoryCDS
      @CoryCDS 3 роки тому +12

      Simple enough to drive one in if you can get ahold of a beefy hammerdrill

    • @Afredericknyc
      @Afredericknyc 3 роки тому +24

      four wires went into the panel. 2 hot, a neutral, and a ground. its grounded to the main panel thru the ground wire in the conduit. no ground rod required, unless of course his main panel isn't connected to one. But thats a whole other episode.

    • @KitchenerLeslie2
      @KitchenerLeslie2 3 роки тому +18

      @@Afredericknyc wrong. When the sub panel is in a different building, you need a ground rod for that panel. He says so later and pretends he didn't forget

    • @Afredericknyc
      @Afredericknyc 3 роки тому +10

      @@KitchenerLeslie2 a sub panel does not need its own grounding rod if it is grounded to the main panel. Look up the code.

    • @KitchenerLeslie2
      @KitchenerLeslie2 3 роки тому +16

      @@Afredericknyc when it is in a separate building it does. You look up the code

  • @BottleJackBuddy
    @BottleJackBuddy 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely done.

  • @JayDee-xj9lu
    @JayDee-xj9lu 6 років тому

    I would have a added a conduit from the floor junction box up to the fuse box in the shed. Something slides down the wall and hits it and it would fail. Also I love the way he says there is lots of room. I don't call that a shed it's more like a kids cubby house. You don't even have enough room to change your mind in there. But whatever, if you just want to store a lawnmower amd spade, it's fine.

  • @TheThorpester
    @TheThorpester 6 років тому +9

    Great video! First bit reminded me of the bit in the Step Brothers film when they make their beds into bunks lols

  • @rafaelcastro6466
    @rafaelcastro6466 7 років тому +3

    very practical I learned more in a couple of minutes than hours in the occupational school! thanks

    • @traymuse3810
      @traymuse3810 7 років тому +3

      Rafael Castro that school must suck

    • @johnbalzano6588
      @johnbalzano6588 7 років тому +1

      Rafael Castro oh, ok, now go stick your hands in the load center after watching a 12 minute tutorial.

    • @tpgoat
      @tpgoat 7 років тому

      Rafael Castro to bad it's bad information.

  • @dc5duben96
    @dc5duben96 2 роки тому

    great video lots of great tips!

  • @thisfool90
    @thisfool90 Рік тому

    Everytime I watch This Old House and it requires digging, I think to myself... you guys have it SO easy! Try digging where I'm at!! Clay soils. Especially if it hasn't rained. Sheesh. I pray for the soil in this video.. I wish

  • @MarshallSmith27
    @MarshallSmith27 6 років тому +90

    I remember when I was about 8 I got very lucky and my dad called me outside to help him (whenever he needed help which was a lot, I knew it was going to loads of fun) he said he needed help digging a trench from the house to the shop which was about 30 yards. To make a long story short I got to dig the trench while he sat and watched, it sucked lol

    • @leegenix
      @leegenix 3 роки тому +6

      *I paid my nephew to help dig holes for fence posts after I hurt my back. I ended up doing most of the work, though. We had lots of beer breaks, snacks, and gave him $200 plus gas money. On Monday morning he calls and asks for a loan. He doesn't call anymore.*

    • @boedillard8807
      @boedillard8807 3 роки тому +1

      My father had my brother and me help with lots of projects - no regrets working on any of them with him.

    • @alexpettersson957
      @alexpettersson957 3 роки тому

      Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. ⚌⚌ twitter.com/a054sd/status/1389636166585143300
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    • @whithull5211
      @whithull5211 3 роки тому +1

      I worked as a lifeguard at a lake beach when I was 17, and literally on the hottest day of the summer, they made us dig fence posts for a mud volleyball tournament.

    • @s.pearson6887
      @s.pearson6887 2 роки тому

      Classic!

  • @mikel4510
    @mikel4510 6 років тому +186

    "Real steep incline..." does that mean the electricity will struggle to get up hill and fall back to the house before it gets to the stuff inside the shed? Will that electrocute the worms and moles?

    • @haroldofcardboard
      @haroldofcardboard 4 роки тому +37

      very good points. maybe they are using very strong electric magnets at the shed. and they put that red warning tape underground so the worms and voles will know.

    • @lisamagyar4537
      @lisamagyar4537 4 роки тому +7

      True

    • @jaytea23
      @jaytea23 4 роки тому +16

      They just need to use a pump to help the electricity up the hill

    • @stuckinmygarage6220
      @stuckinmygarage6220 4 роки тому +2

      @@jaytea23 Solar? Battery? Gas??? LOL

    • @TheHeadlessHorseman
      @TheHeadlessHorseman 4 роки тому +23

      @@jaytea23 A guy I knew once use an air compressor line hard plumbed into the electric line near the end which the pressure of the air would create a venturi effect and allow the electricity to flow smoothly up the hill. Before he did this, the electric was sitting there pooling

  • @ImpalamansGarage
    @ImpalamansGarage 6 років тому

    Scott does good work.

  • @KindCreature1
    @KindCreature1 4 роки тому

    Really nice job!

  • @tnoel374
    @tnoel374 7 років тому +4

    Good video, very informative too.

  • @foxfiresidechats5227
    @foxfiresidechats5227 4 роки тому +59

    Master Electrician goes to work in the morning. Comes Home. “So what did you do at work today honey”. 90 percent landscape, 10 percent electrical.

  • @UFOGHOSTHUNTER
    @UFOGHOSTHUNTER 4 роки тому +1

    I installed solar powered motion detector lights in my shed. I don't go too often back there at night anyway. Plus I saved $$$$

    • @penguin12902
      @penguin12902 4 роки тому +1

      Same. Its awesome. Little inverter and I can charge my kids toys and battery tools

  • @guccimane5752
    @guccimane5752 4 роки тому

    This is easy. What makes this job hard it the landscape. That hill is huge lol

  • @markthompson4099
    @markthompson4099 3 роки тому +3

    I would recommend the panel outside with a main breaker for less than 6 throws of the hand. It is code.

    • @nervousordo
      @nervousordo 2 роки тому

      English please.

    • @garybrown7044
      @garybrown7044 2 роки тому

      the n.e.c. requires a main @ the sub-panel as shown. the n.e.c. is the minimum requirements, yes! to the ground. dont forget the gfci's.

    • @lydialas8756
      @lydialas8756 Рік тому

      @Hello mark how are you doing

  • @tcliff1
    @tcliff1 4 роки тому +11

    Oooh, I find it hard to believe the fish tape went through that easy :)

    • @adambrown3918
      @adambrown3918 4 роки тому

      It's easy to push through when there's nothing in the conduit. He could have made it even easier by taking off the receptacle heads before pushing it through. Either way; job done.m! Also the thin black conduit he had the wires coming out of the junction box to the sub-panel? Probably should have been through a 1 inch sealtight for safety and electrical compliance because of the wire gauge?

    • @mattheww2797
      @mattheww2797 4 роки тому

      @@adambrown3918 That wasn't conduit coming up to the panel it was just 4/4 or 6/4 wire

    • @michaelthebarbarian3380
      @michaelthebarbarian3380 4 роки тому

      I'm sorta shocked he bothered to pull the rope. I would have just pulled the conductor with the fish tape on a run that short.

  • @peterkavan8368
    @peterkavan8368 3 роки тому +2

    my inspector said the ground rod is only needed if you have more than 6 breakers, in which case with over 6 breakers you would want a main breaker in the garage panel. At 8:38 please use cable stackers so your romes is 1 1/4" away from the front and rear of the stud. At 8:43 you have 4 romex wires thru one bore hole. code allows only 3 wires per hole. At 6:56 ;you have a giant splice box, why not use another LB on tihe inside and continue the conduit all the way into the panel? Love the insulated connector at 7:22.

    • @thomasmorrison4540
      @thomasmorrison4540 3 роки тому

      Ask your inspector for a code book reference. Because I’m here to tell you that it doesn’t exist

  • @bobconnell8492
    @bobconnell8492 3 роки тому +1

    Great refreshing course

  • @jjsantora75
    @jjsantora75 7 років тому +277

    I use an extention chord. i only ran it over with the lawn mower a few times.

    • @jordanjohnson714
      @jordanjohnson714 7 років тому +4

      Jay Faul What happened when you did that?

    • @wagonerjared
      @wagonerjared 7 років тому +9

      Jordan, lights went out, spliced or bought a new extension cord...

    • @jordanjohnson714
      @jordanjohnson714 7 років тому

      If the blades that cut through the cord are conductive, and I bet they are, and if a low impedance path is provided between the neutral/ground and the hot wire, I would bet there would be sparks.

    • @classic287
      @classic287 7 років тому +3

      Jay Faul, That's just what I do. It's laying out in the grass right now. I use it to trickle charge my lawn tractor....

    • @classic287
      @classic287 7 років тому

      Jordan, Sparks are always fun....

  • @belfast479
    @belfast479 4 роки тому +3

    If in Massachusetts, 24" deep. Whole new ballgame.

  • @cvillarrealb
    @cvillarrealb 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely the BEST video I watched. I went through a lot of videos and this is definitely the most and well explained and detailed. Thank you guys so much. You really helped me a lot

  • @mikelivesay5639
    @mikelivesay5639 3 роки тому +1

    In the future you could’ve use the vibratory plow Vermeer LM 42 or a Ditch Witch 410 Sx And plowed in either direct bury cable or a 2 inch conduit PVC when you got done there’s no trenching there’s no mess barely can tell that she put it in and you can go easily 24 inches deep

  • @tomlewis6533
    @tomlewis6533 4 роки тому +10

    With the female side of the pipe connection facing up hill if there's a single cracked joint that pipe will fill with water.

    • @AS-ng5pi
      @AS-ng5pi 4 роки тому +1

      @JosLewisWood Carpenter Unless there is enough water that it builds pressure and backs into the house where the box goes into the basement. This is like funneling water into the house. With that steep incline it will quite easily make that upturn into the box.

    • @illusion9966
      @illusion9966 4 роки тому +2

      Then you get the pleasure of digging out concrete to fix it
      Wonder if TOH will remember when the call comes in?

    • @ninjamunky
      @ninjamunky 4 роки тому

      Conduit underground should be considered a wet location anyway. As much glue as you put on, there's no guarantee that you won't get water in it, no matter what direction the pipe is facing.
      As others have stated, the wire will be listed for this. Also, the conduit stubs above grade to an LB. I highly doubt groundwater would build enough pressure to get into the basement though the conduit.

  • @procrastinator41
    @procrastinator41 4 роки тому +33

    How many saw thumbnail and thought:
    "He's gonna make the homeowner dig that trench with a shovel"

    • @diyingxiang7521
      @diyingxiang7521 3 роки тому

      Kudos for the video content! Sorry for butting in, I would appreciate your initial thoughts. Have you tried - *WoodBlueprints. Com* It is a great one of a kind guide for building better sheds and woodworking without the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my cousin finally got astronomical success with it.?

  • @cloverman3338
    @cloverman3338 4 роки тому +1

    I used the 30 amp electric panel from an old camper and just plug it into an outdoor plug

  • @truth7416
    @truth7416 3 роки тому

    Excellent video thanks

  • @emmett3067
    @emmett3067 7 років тому +22

    Nice to see a home owner thinking about the future and the job being done well.

    • @nicholashartzler2205
      @nicholashartzler2205 7 років тому

      You mean digging a trench and running one 20 amp circuit would be stupid? Actually he should have ran another two 3/4 conduit just for the hell of it. And I hope theres already water up there.

  • @zedman442
    @zedman442 7 років тому +4

    Interesting, I am enjoying learning about American electrics. Not sure about the conduit wiring, I guess with the conduit pipe you have some protection. In the U.K. We have armoured cable, to be belt n braces I also add conduit pipe to run it, also helps if the cable needs to be replaced.

    • @beeps7
      @beeps7 7 років тому +4

      Armored cable is in the US as well. Common in commercial applications. Generally called BX or MC, but its not rated for burial. Conduit or UF cable must be installed for installations under ground.

    • @bmanwpg
      @bmanwpg 7 років тому +1

      We normally use teck cable up here in Canada for direct burial (think of MC but with a rubberized coating on the outside).

    • @Arieeeee
      @Arieeeee 7 років тому

      armored cable is not rated to be underground where it will be subject to moister. It's used indoors where nonmetallic sheathing is subject to damage like in commercial and metal frame buildings. THHN wire in conduit is the correct wire.

    • @myjourneybackhome1618
      @myjourneybackhome1618 7 років тому +1

      beeps, the armoured cable in the UK is for burying without conduit, it has a few layers of pvc, polyethylene, galvanised wire armour etc, same cable they use on our street lighting etc.

    • @Arieeeee
      @Arieeeee 7 років тому

      Your code reflects building conditions and materials to that area. It doesn't mean it's better. You think your armoured cable is going to matter if someone digs there without checking first? I'm sure I could watch your home improvement shows and find many things that don't make sense here as well. If you really want to charge the customer more, you can always run a sleeve and put the pipe in that. it won't really make much difference

  • @miltonnegron65
    @miltonnegron65 4 роки тому

    Great job !!!

  • @Rhyno186
    @Rhyno186 4 роки тому

    Should have run another conduit for a couple of Cat6 cables to get network connection to the shed. You would then be able to hook up a wired security camera (wired is ALWAYS best) and also a wireless access point.

  • @mbisson5816
    @mbisson5816 4 роки тому +3

    What would happen to those live wires if the shed moved off those blocks it was sitting on? Is there consideration made for a shed such as this to secure it?

    • @opinionatedman
      @opinionatedman 3 роки тому +1

      Bad things. Anything can happen. When running plumbing or electric it is assumed the building is stationary and won't move. An earthquake could damage things. Worst case is the conduit breaks and damages the insulation on the conductors. Depending on how it happens and the severity the breaker would blow. Shed needs fixed and new wires pulled in that example. If there was that much of a concern the electrician can use transition fittings to a product like sealtite that has some flexibility to it.

  • @timmack2415
    @timmack2415 3 роки тому +9

    Where was this? It looks like you were trenching topsoil! I've been doing this for 35 years and never seen anything like that! Most of my time is spent digging out giant rocks.

  • @luckymex58
    @luckymex58 6 років тому +2

    Yes 18 inches below ground but then you still have to add the thickness of your pipe that way your conduit can remain 18 in below ground

  • @loreall.2461
    @loreall.2461 Рік тому

    This was a really cool video!