Shed Electrical Installation (How to Add Electricity to a Shed - DIY)

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  • @johnstancliff7328
    @johnstancliff7328 Рік тому +28

    I had a 50 Amp feed done years ago and I'm so glad I did.... it has both electric heat (5KW) and AC.... and its only a 12 X 8! but I love it!

  • @kpd3308
    @kpd3308 Рік тому +225

    Always run at least two cables to your shed, and dedicate one to your lights. If you're working at night, using a power tool, and it trips the breaker, you won't be left in the dark with a spinning saw blade, or whatever. I suggest 15 amp for the lights, and 20 amp for your power tools.

    • @Sparkeycarp
      @Sparkeycarp Рік тому +17

      Great point. Plus I don't like running Romex in conduit. Could have made an easy pull with just a couple hots, a neutral and ground. Use a two pole breaker if you do. Good luck ever pulling the Romex out of that conduit.

    • @houseman2414
      @houseman2414 Рік тому +11

      It's a code violation to run two diffetent feeders to an outbuilding like that (unless you have special circumstances like a switch at the other end controlling an outdoor light, different power source, etc.). You generally get one feeder, although a multi wire circuit still counts as one. So, you could do a pair of 20 amp circuits to a shed on a shared neutral in a single 10/3 (or 12/3 if close).

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +8

      @@houseman2414 That's not a feeder, it's a branch circuit.

    • @artemkalinchuk
      @artemkalinchuk Рік тому +32

      Run 240v cable and add subpanel in shed.

    • @godwin3265
      @godwin3265 Рік тому +1

      you're actually running 3 or 4... at least in the us.. then setting up a subpanel and putting in different breakers for the lights than the outlets/tools... theres no issue here...

  • @rosewoodsteel6656
    @rosewoodsteel6656 Рік тому +19

    Thanks for the video! You did a wonderful job building that shed and you gave us a lot of ideas on how to run electric to our sheds. My advice to those interested in doing their own electric would be to watch a lot of videos on this subject and read all of the associated comments. You will find a wealth of knowledge in the comment section and get an idea of what Andrew did right and where Andrew could have improved on his installation. To those who are critical of his work, I suggest that you help the rest of us by putting out your own videos on this subject. Thanks again for the work you put into this, Andrew. We all can learn from our mistakes, but we can never learn without attempting to try our hand at it.

    • @FranciscoGonzalez-ro7ht
      @FranciscoGonzalez-ro7ht 2 місяці тому

      You're absolutely right, good point Rose.

    • @DavePerry-h5r
      @DavePerry-h5r Місяць тому

      There are different ways of achieving a proper install, as long as they all adhere to the code. The code is a minimum.
      A lot of what he did here is not up to any code I'm aware of.
      The reason the code exists is to prevent people from being electrocuted and fires. The code reads like a legal document and much of it resulted from previous fires and electrocutions.
      You can't guess when it comes to electrical work. With plumbing the worst thing that will happen is a leak, but with electrical the worst thing is a fire in the middle of the night when you're asleep or someone getting fried.

  • @TheTidalwaveDave122
    @TheTidalwaveDave122 Рік тому +18

    Very informative and well explained! The comments and tips by the other viewers was very helpful as well! Thanks to all!

  • @betta3301
    @betta3301 Рік тому +43

    pro tip: take a couple photos of the full length of buried conduit before you backfill it for future reference (or make a sketch with annotated specifications.) locator services for underground utilities never mark DIYers' buried stuff.

    • @Mike_H76
      @Mike_H76 Рік тому +2

      Even some utilities, like cable, do some "shady stuff"... they did a fix here a few years ago and literally ran their splice about 3 inches under the soil... I took a pic since I have to edge that bed every year. We also get frost heave here, so there are a couple other spots where the cable tv coax migrated and is literally laying on the ground, thanks to grass growing thatch, no issue in the lawn, only in beds and that gets mulched over. Granted, there's no safety risk.

    • @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320
      @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320 Рік тому +6

      Tracer ribbon is always a good idea too.

  • @barryomahony4983
    @barryomahony4983 Рік тому +64

    @6:10 No, if you're going to use non-metallic sheathed cable in underground conduit for some reason, it must be type UF. The interior of conduit outside or underground is considered a wet location (they always end up with some water in them). But it makes no sense to run UF in conduit; it's expensive and a pain to work with. Cheaper and easier to run individual 12 gauge THWN wires. Also, you cannot run the wires/cables as you go. NEC 300.18(A) says the conduit must be installed as a complete run before running any conductors. This helps ensure you don't have too many bends and/or the conduit isn't too small.

    • @usmc6153
      @usmc6153 Рік тому +20

      I was actually dinged on an inspection for using sheathed cable in conduit. I was told it would not disperse heat properly.

    • @barryomahony4983
      @barryomahony4983 Рік тому +7

      @@usmc6153 Yea you here that sometimes and it's not true. Sheathed cable is installed in exterior walls buried in inches of insulation without problem. Its conductors are massively derated; they use 90 degrees C insulated conductors, but the ampacity of the cable is calculated using the 60 degrees C column. In some limited situations Code even requires it in conduit to protect from physical damage (334.15(B)).

    • @Bryankrall8090
      @Bryankrall8090 Рік тому +9

      You cannot use NMC in conduit per code. Have I done it in a residential situation, yes, usually to protect the cable from damage. if I was running this, I would use 1-inch pipe and pull conductors to give you options later. put for a DIY installed, this will last forever with no issues.

    • @barryomahony4983
      @barryomahony4983 Рік тому

      @@Bryankrall8090 Where does it say that in Code? I don't see anything about it in 334.12. I know flexible cords can't per 400.12(6), but I can't find anything similar for NM. It's a dumb thing to do bur I don't see any prohibition for it.

    • @mikelawler2278
      @mikelawler2278 Рік тому +1

      @@barryomahony4983 NEC 300.18(A) "Exception: Short sections of raceways used to contain conductors or cable assemblies for protection from physical damage shall not be required to be installed complete between outlet, junction, or splicing points."

  • @portaadonai
    @portaadonai Рік тому +47

    ProTip- always add a spare conduit, you can use this for low volt, telecomm, or if the other conduit fails, you can use the second one, you wont easily get another chance to trench later on.
    CodeTip- Most circuits are required to be 18 inches down in pvc, not 12 inches. Thats only an exception for GFCI protected wiring
    ProTip- Its very for the GFCI to nuissance trip in years to come, because water ALWAYS gets into the conduit, if the wire gets damaged at some point, you will lose power without the GFCI. You dont want to be chained to a GFCI for power, they are not reliable long term
    Look up the 'NEC burial depth chart' and make sure its from the last few years to be certain
    [also your not supposed to use romex in outdoor conduit, but as long as it doesnt go underground, its not a huge deal]

    • @ShaunPaget
      @ShaunPaget 4 місяці тому +1

      18" deep? ipvc is 24" by NEC RMC is 18"

    • @DavePerry-h5r
      @DavePerry-h5r Місяць тому

      What do you mean by "chained to a gfci"? That gfci is designed to trip very easily so you don't get electrocuted. Its there for a reason. You take that out and replace it with something else and you're removing an essential safety device.

    • @DavePerry-h5r
      @DavePerry-h5r Місяць тому

      Canada has a different code, but it depends on if the burial site has vehicle traffic over it.

  • @ScottsSynthStuff
    @ScottsSynthStuff Рік тому +53

    Huge rookie mistake at 9:18. NEVER fasten two wires onto a single terminal on a switch or receptacle! Always join them to a third, single wire using a wire connector, then wrap that single wire around the terminal. You espouse doing things to code, but that double-wrapped wire will fail code inspections pretty much everywhere.

    • @Boobtube.
      @Boobtube. Рік тому +3

      i saw that also

    • @smast16
      @smast16 Рік тому +12

      I came to say the same thing. Two grounds on a single ground terminal is a no-go. He needs to go back and pigtail it or one of those fancy ground pass through.

    • @bigtroll8249
      @bigtroll8249 Рік тому +3

      Gotta use a pigtail

    • @justind4763
      @justind4763 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, I'm no electrician but I've done light electrical work and this part let me know the creator might not know what he's doing.

  • @jasonbodenheimer4017
    @jasonbodenheimer4017 7 місяців тому +4

    Andrew, Love the easy to follow step by step. Regarding pulling the cable through the conduit, what I would offer as a tip: Since you performed the appropriate sweeping bends, this is super easy to pull romex through... Fully glue and bury your conduit... Option A: pull mule tape or 1/4" nylon rope through the conduit as you go. Option B: fully assemble all the way to just before your junction boxes and using a vacuum, you can suck the mule tape through the full length by tying a large cotton ball to the end of your mule tape/nylon rope. once the rope is in the conduit, you can use conduit lube to pull your electrical through the fully buried line... and since it's buried, it won't budge.
    Knowing that you did this build completely by yourself, the way you did it is perfectly acceptable considering you only had a single pair of hands, but you can save yourself a decent chunk of time sucking mule tape, then pulling cable through lubed conduit. Cheers, great video!

  • @tonywagner4836
    @tonywagner4836 2 роки тому +165

    Conduits are considered a wet environment by code so romex is a no no.

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +23

      The inside of conduits outdoors or underground are considered wet locations, like the one under the deck in this video; in dry locations they are considered dry locations.

    • @luvdady
      @luvdady Рік тому +6

      Yeah I imagine that its a better idea to go to the foundation with Romex than a junction box , then go thhn to a larger level size than you think you'll need now (within reason 😉) as the price between 14 and 10 is a matter of a few bucks and having to buy 14 ft now and fishing vs buying 10awg and fishing is not so cheap...

    • @OrdinaryDude67
      @OrdinaryDude67 Рік тому +6

      @@pld8993 that’s a good point. Conduit isn’t a wet location by default, it depends where it’s installed.

    • @bobniles1928
      @bobniles1928 Рік тому +22

      @@OrdinaryDude67 Any conduit outside or underground is a wet location.

    • @OrdinaryDude67
      @OrdinaryDude67 Рік тому +5

      @@bobniles1928 mostly correct, and conduit installed indoors is a dry location.

  • @incredable6211
    @incredable6211 Рік тому +6

    Andrew, obviously you are a great DIYer, but an electrician you are not and don't appear to know NEC code. Instructing others how to install something governed by codes and not being trained, it's just not a good plan.
    For those wanting to meet the NEC requirements: the code requires a disconnect means for separate buildings. a gfic recept is not usually rated as a disconnect for a separate building (just a switch where you put the gfic recept would do. A heat gun making those 90's not so sharp would help.
    A bushing is required where the romex enters the conduit. UF cable in pvc is overkill, it just makes it needlessly difficult to install and strip it at a small pvc box. Your shed is gorgeous, looks great.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому +1

      Technically this is a branch CCT not bigger than 20A, so not technically feeder, so shouldn't need a disconnect/ ground rod. no?

  • @josephknapick5307
    @josephknapick5307 2 роки тому +18

    I believe the round boxes for the spotlights must be flush with the OUTSIDE SURFACE of your sheathing...

  • @johngrafton6868
    @johngrafton6868 Рік тому +30

    People like you is the reason we have a National Electrical code!

    • @I-sed-no
      @I-sed-no Рік тому +12

      lol... says the electrician who didn't get paid for this job

    • @yeeyee2739
      @yeeyee2739 Рік тому +3

      that non-metallic sheathed cable is swimming in water

    • @johndavies2949
      @johndavies2949 Рік тому

      Yes.

    • @rosewoodsteel6656
      @rosewoodsteel6656 Рік тому +1

      I've seen a lot worse than this; some from licensed electricians. :{ He did a great job building the shed!

    • @mikei759
      @mikei759 10 місяців тому

      Ok cuck

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel Рік тому +15

    Buried conduit is considered a wet environment in code, so that UF-B was mandatory once you were in the buried conduit.
    Honestly seems like you might as well have started with UF-B. NEC does not demand 24" in all circumstances, that is the deepest general recommendation.
    One way you could have done this is to put a GFCI or dual function breaker at the panel, and run UF-B right from the main panel to your shed branch circuit.

  • @keithhupp5995
    @keithhupp5995 Рік тому +4

    I just bought a house that has power going to the shed its a 20 amp breaker and they followed the same guidelines on the depth so I know now by watching this video that my shed is safe and the guys who did the work knew what they were doing. I enjoy watching the different videos of each project very educational. TY

  • @johnhooton3286
    @johnhooton3286 Рік тому +13

    Depth of trench is from top of conduit to grade.

  • @mcarroll598
    @mcarroll598 Рік тому +72

    Non metallic sheath cable is not rated for wet locations. This is a code violation. If you would’ve ran UF cable (sleeved with PVC conduit) outside under the deck you would be good. And you should’ve used expansion fittings transitioning out of the ground to the structure. When the ground moves it expands and contracts, it will pull PVC apart.

    • @jamesstuart3700
      @jamesstuart3700 Рік тому +4

      So run UF-B all the way?

    • @mcarroll598
      @mcarroll598 Рік тому +9

      @@jamesstuart3700 yes or install conductors rated for wet and damp locations.

    • @chrispopp2713
      @chrispopp2713 Рік тому

      Pvc is rated for underground and wet. Shut up.

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому

      @@chrispopp2713 But NM in PVC is not rated for wet. Shut up.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      one could argue the deck is damp not wet, but best practice would also be to unsheath the entire run in conduit.

  • @dfj555
    @dfj555 Рік тому +11

    Should have used a sub panel at the shed and ran a thicker wire, like a 6 for future upgrades, AC/Heat, outlets, lights, etc.

  • @monteporche5552
    @monteporche5552 Рік тому +24

    One other little thing. You're not allowed to have more than 360 degrees worth of bends between pull points in your conduit. You have two 90's right at the bottom of the house, one 90 a few feet away, what looks like a 45 right before the shed, and then a 90 going up. That's 405 degrees total.

    • @sarimjk
      @sarimjk 11 місяців тому

      Why is that?

    • @monteporche5552
      @monteporche5552 11 місяців тому +2

      @@sarimjk I would assume its because each turn adds to the difficulty in pulling the cable through.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      Because he was supposed to build the entire pipe before pulling through with a fish wire/tape, which would be next to impossible with more than 360 degrees. I doubt anyone would even be able to pull it out without digging up the pipe.@@sarimjk

  • @tomdewey9690
    @tomdewey9690 Рік тому +4

    That shed looks great. The electrical comments were very helpful. I see why you did it the way you did. My only comments are that i would have put the switches on the inside and used smart switches to set up timers and to be able to control them remotely.
    Do you have to use fire blocking rated caulk or spray foam for that penetration to your basement? I'm not sure when that applies.

    • @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320
      @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320 Рік тому

      I believe fire rated caulk or foam is only required to seal penetrations between living spaces to prevent fire spreading from floor-to-floor or room-to-room. That’s what my builder relayed to me when I was running cat 6 in our house.

  • @danielmalack3714
    @danielmalack3714 Рік тому +4

    #2 Conduit has to be built then wire pulled! The glue will melt the sheathing on the cable. you will nick the cable doing it that way and it will be compromised. All conduits underground will have water in them no matter how much glue you put on the conduit, If you nicked the wire (which you did) is compromised.

  • @fldave612
    @fldave612 Рік тому +6

    I'm actually surprised your electrician didn't put in a GFCI breaker in the panel knowing that everything that circuit will feed is outside, in fact I believe the NEC mandates that GFCI protection must begin at or before the transition point from interior to exterior in a branch circuit. That 20 amp single circuit feeding your shed is kind of small, that only leaves enough power for lights and a few small power tools like a circular saw or jig saw. I would have ran an 80 or 100 amp feed to the shed and put a small sub panel out there and branched everything off of that, but I also have a drill press, 60 gallon compressor, a 2 HP table saw, and a 5000 btu window A/C in my shed/shop which is much more than most homeowners normally have.

    • @rmcdaniel423
      @rmcdaniel423 11 місяців тому +1

      He's using it to store a lawn mower and shovels, etc. I seriously doubt he would ever need 100 amps out there. LOL

  • @tr8970
    @tr8970 2 місяці тому

    After reading a fraction of the remarks I have decided to hire a licensed electrician to wire my shed. Andrew, my advice is to hire a licensed electrician; show him this video and have it brought up to code. Afterwards, sell the rights to this video to National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) which writes the NEC . They can use as a training video. Hopefully water doesn’t get into the tubing and cause a short, especially since you poured concrete.

  • @Drew-C-
    @Drew-C- 8 місяців тому +4

    7:35 - Andrew: wipes off any extra pvc cement purely for ascetics
    Also Andrew: gets pvc cement on shed

    • @AndrewThronImprovements
      @AndrewThronImprovements  8 місяців тому +4

      Haha you'll find a lot of crap like that here.

    • @Drew-C-
      @Drew-C- 7 місяців тому +2

      @@AndrewThronImprovements Cheers bro, great video

  • @theradonpros
    @theradonpros Рік тому +1

    Hand unroll that coil of wire, to prevent twisting which led to piping difficulty. Great job!

  • @christophereric1407
    @christophereric1407 6 місяців тому

    Helpful video. I’d run a underground spec data cable in a half inch PVC for a shed node to push a strong wifi signal out into the yard. With a clothesline string to upgrade or replace the data cable as necessary.

  • @bmbbrevs
    @bmbbrevs Рік тому +5

    Your shed turned out great! These videos gave me some good tips while I’ve been building mine. I’m just about to do my electrical also and am trying to figure out if I can use romex inside. I was thinking of using the metal clad aluminum (MC cable) instead of romex since it will be permanently exposed. I really do not want to run conduit everywhere.

  • @quicksilver462
    @quicksilver462 Рік тому +6

    I bought a house in 2000, it had the water well in the front yard, about 50 feet from the street, and the pump and tank was also located there. The house sat about 300 feet further back from the street, and to power the water pump, the previous owner had romex suspended from the oak trees running all the way back to the house, entering the front living room through a hole in the floor, with the romex connecting to a lamp corp with wire nuts, then inserted into the electrical outlet in the wall of the living room! ...face palm/shakes head/ rolles eyes!! I installed UFC down about 3' (ditchwitch) and a proper 20A breaker in the electrical box. Took be a whole weekend to do...oaktree roots!

    • @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320
      @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320 Рік тому +1

      And that’s why you should always hire an inspector before you close.

    • @quicksilver462
      @quicksilver462 Рік тому +4

      @@allenemiesforeignanddomest3320 I really don't need to hire someone to tell me something I already know!

    • @TheRaker1000
      @TheRaker1000 Рік тому +2

      when i bought my house, the well had a harbor freight sump pump sitting in the well pit with a garden hose run down the hole to the water... and it was powered by an extension cord with the plug cut off and stuck into a breaker in the electric panel.

  • @mhh102
    @mhh102 Рік тому +1

    solid video and nice shed! i think im gonna forgo the gfci outlet with an all in one breaker tho. 1 less thing to worry about.

  • @njc7293
    @njc7293 2 роки тому +11

    PVC pipe must be a minimal of 18 inches. UF cable can be 12 in if GFI protected from the main panel.

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +6

      As long the circuit is residential, 120V and 15 or 20 amps, and GFCI protected, the conduit can be 12".

    • @michaelsrossi3293
      @michaelsrossi3293 Рік тому +2

      code states PVC is 18” to top of conduit or cover Per NEC 300.5

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +4

      @@michaelsrossi3293 You're correct, it says that in Column 3, but Column 4 allows for 12" when installed according to the conditions listed.

    • @michaelsrossi3293
      @michaelsrossi3293 Рік тому +2

      @@pld8993 right I didn’t read or watch long enough to see it was GFI protected knee jerk reaction to first comment

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +5

      @@michaelsrossi3293 That's one of the few things in this video that don't violate the NEC.

  • @XsoloXela1989
    @XsoloXela1989 Місяць тому

    Thank you for the best, detailed diy video ive seen, and ive watched a lot 😂😂

  • @edgardodelvalle2769
    @edgardodelvalle2769 7 місяців тому +1

    For your information the number of curves you used is higher than the NEC code electric recommend.
    358.26 Bends - Number in One Run. “There shall not be more than the equivalent of four quarter bends (360 degrees total) between pull points, for example, conduit bodies and boxes.”

  • @wjohanw
    @wjohanw 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm fairly certain you aren't allowed to run romex outside in conduit. Outside (even in a trench) is considered a wet location. Might need to double check the NEC codebook.

    • @fizwin1
      @fizwin1 5 місяців тому

      this^ !!!! omg

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 Рік тому +5

    If I were to put Romex in buried conduit, I would only use UF-B cable. Conduit often ends up full of water in a few years, or less.

    • @Sparkeycarp
      @Sparkeycarp Рік тому +3

      Don't put Romex in buried conduit.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому +1

      condensation from the air is enough to fill it eventually

  • @LawGPT
    @LawGPT Рік тому +4

    Nice tutorial. Is it ok to join the PVC in place with the cable running through it? I thought that was verboten.

    • @shelms488
      @shelms488 Рік тому +2

      You’re correct that is against code.

  • @denniskazich7559
    @denniskazich7559 Рік тому +1

    I would have ran extra amperage to shed and used stranded wire. Would hope wires could be pulled through conduit if necessary. Switches for exterior lights on shed should be installed inside house. Wouldn't have to run outside when the lights needed to be turned off. Good job on keeping burial depth in mind though.

  • @kevinstenger4334
    @kevinstenger4334 Рік тому +17

    You did nice work and it works for you but much of it is illegal. It’s one thing to do stuff for yourself but doing a how to video to teach other people to do it wrong is something else. When you run conduit you should minimize the bends and by code you are not allowed more than 360 degrees of bends between openings such as boxes and conduit bodies. And since you used UF cable that is difficult to pull anyway that wire will never come out, if it fails the whole run will have to be torn out and replaced. I know you did it a section at a time but technically that’s illegal too since the code requires the raceway system to be complete before installing wire. You also can’t glue your conduit to the wall, a conduit strap is required. The other big mistake you made was installing your switch and lighting outlet boxes so that they are recessed. The box has to be flush with the surface of the wall or slightly protruding so that the cover or fixture mount to the face of the box. By having them recessed you have introduced combustible material to the inside of the space where your wire terminations are made, the most likely place for an arcing fault to occur and start a fire. Arc faults are several thousand degrees, more than enough to ignite your wood composite siding. Sorry, I’m not trying to be a nit picker just being critical but this was a how to video. The electrical code is a very complicated thing and takes years to learn and constant updating and re-education. Enjoy your shed, it looks great.

    • @tonyhartshorn3474
      @tonyhartshorn3474 8 місяців тому +2

      How did you figure out this guys address to know where he lives. Different areas have different codes. For example the area I live in has no codes or inspections. You seem to be an electrical contractor or an inspector. There for you should know he could use plastic box extensions if he chooses to cover the inside walls. If you don’t like his video kick rocks

    • @DavePerry-h5r
      @DavePerry-h5r Місяць тому

      No codes, sounds plausible. I suppose nobody has fire insurance either?

  • @billdarling2629
    @billdarling2629 Рік тому +11

    All of the electrical (blue) "boxes" (circular and rectangular) on the exterior walls of the shed should be mounted flush with the exterior wall. So, neither the box for the double switches or any of the boxes for the exterior lights comply with electrical codes. And they're all fire hazards and potential shock hazards. Other than that (and running the wrong type of wire out of the house), good video.

  • @georgewadejr5474
    @georgewadejr5474 Рік тому +2

    Good looking shed . 💰🤑🤠 I don't understand why there are so many 90° elbows . You only needed 2 90° elbows . Straighten the ditch out . 3/4 PVC is flexible . Wet locations use UF wire in conduit .

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому

      UF doesn't need conduit in this installation, it's rated for direct burial.

    • @georgewadejr5474
      @georgewadejr5474 Рік тому

      @@pld8993 no s*** Sherlock but stupid is as stupid does

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому

      @@georgewadejr5474 Sherlock didn't say wet locations use UF wire in conduit, you did. First, no, UF goes right in the dirt, installing it in conduit is an amateur move. Second, UF is cable, not wire. So does that make you stupid is or stupid does?

    • @SeanFitz-vo4fm
      @SeanFitz-vo4fm 10 місяців тому

      An amateur move would be assuming the UF cable with no conduit protection will never get damaged by someone installing a fence post or a tree. It's totally professional to do it the quick, cheaper way and not worry about someone with a steel breaker bar getting shocked, because as a pro, you'll be off on another job and won't have to deal with it. @@pld8993

  • @dyson9422
    @dyson9422 10 місяців тому

    When I read the National Electric Code (NEC) the conduit had to be fully assembled before the wire was pulled through. If you plan on storing gas powered equipment in the shed then read the part of the code that explains when explosion proof fittings are needed. Generally the plan is developed and drawn so that with the aid of the drawing and parts list a permit can be issued. No permit means your home owners insurance may not pay if something goes wrong.

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes, conduit is required to be completed before installing conductors but a residential shed is not a hazardous location requiring explosion-proof fittings.

  • @patricksmith3135
    @patricksmith3135 2 роки тому +10

    Andrew you get better and better with each video. I loved the floor treatment, which I am considering for my screened porch. Thanks so much ; can't wait for more. Pat

  • @glassblastcollision
    @glassblastcollision 10 місяців тому

    A good air compressor can assist in feeding the a rope by blowing air down the conduit the direction you push the cord. Then you can tie the cord to your wire and pull it through. It's good idea to pull another cord through if youd like to pull other curcuits like cable, internet or speaker wire.

  • @robertpetit57
    @robertpetit57 13 днів тому

    You are also in violation for having more than 360 ° of bend by 45 degrees. I would have used THWN in the PVC.
    ITS A GREAT looking shed, especially the slat wall and accessories!

  • @danielnorton8090
    @danielnorton8090 9 місяців тому

    Can't wait to plug in my two headed 100watt light bulbs into my antique stand up lamp that I always have near my extra lightweight drapes

  • @RD-sl8yl
    @RD-sl8yl Рік тому

    I love the video and it looks perfect to me. I will def use this video as a reference! Thanks!!

  • @MatthewPierce9
    @MatthewPierce9 9 місяців тому +1

    Good video. I believe it is against code to run Romex through conduit. My understanding is that you must use THHN or similar. It's also my understanding that if conduit has >360* on bends there needs to be a junction box, not sure if you have that many or not. I counted 4 x 90* so that may be within the rule.

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 9 місяців тому

      Romex is allowed, and sometimes required, in conduit.

    • @VishalRaoOnYouTube
      @VishalRaoOnYouTube 3 місяці тому

      THWN might be safer for water resistance

  • @johnnydeutschemark3620
    @johnnydeutschemark3620 2 місяці тому

    Over long distances, from home service panel to a shed in the back yard, you will experience 'voltage drop' so plan accordingly, like using higher gauge wire #10 wire. BTW: What size breaker did you electrician put in your panel? This would be useful information.

  • @douglasgreaves188
    @douglasgreaves188 Рік тому +1

    UK electrician, we generally use an armoured cable for outdoor runs. Have a 600mm depth rule for none armoured. All our circuit's are gfci protected from panel. Conduit runs would require a number of access points.

  • @shawngutierrez2097
    @shawngutierrez2097 Рік тому +1

    Great job man. Succinct explanation 👍

  • @AC9T
    @AC9T 4 місяці тому +4

    YEs folks, always check with a local electrician to make sure you aren't engineering a code violations as code does in fact change and there may be considerations to where you live. As of today, prior to watching this video, I found another that specifies that NMC (non metallic/Romex etc.) can not be run inside ANY conduit once it transitions to a wet location...for example, if the conduit/pvc goes outside, your wires inside must be THHN and NOT even just stripped NMC/Romex!

  • @robertcarullo4926
    @robertcarullo4926 Рік тому +2

    I don't know where your located, but you can't put a yellow romex under ground, it gets moisture and will rot. You need to use another type of wire coating, that runs into the conduit. unless your area says ok, florida you can't

  • @bellarosegroup
    @bellarosegroup Рік тому +3

    Not how i would have done it, but nothing wrong with it. good work. pulling romex through conduit is rough. I would have switched to thwn but i understand but i understand your process.

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +6

      Except for multiple NEC violations.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      if nothing else unsheath it as you fish it in.

  • @sh2697
    @sh2697 Рік тому +1

    I have a question: 1. If I use conduit (pvc) do I use wire or can the romex go inside. 2. for the exposed part, can I use the electrical pvc conduit or do I use the metal? 3. The reason is I am asking is because I have to go from outside wall to burying. I do not want to have to buy different wire I guess

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      Easiest would be to strip the romex and fish the raw wires through after assembly.

  • @MyGarageWoodshop
    @MyGarageWoodshop 3 місяці тому

    did you use Schedule 40 or Schedule 80 pvc for the buried conduit?

  • @babsk4071
    @babsk4071 8 місяців тому

    WHAT A SHED!☕️👍

  • @760phillip
    @760phillip Рік тому +1

    Great job drew. For all those critics "make a video of how to do electrical correctly" instead of nitpicking this man's work.

    • @allenjay6065
      @allenjay6065 Рік тому +2

      I also saw a lot wrong with his electrical work. Even his " electrian " did not run the NM ( romex ) through the center of the floor joists.

    • @SeanFitz-vo4fm
      @SeanFitz-vo4fm 10 місяців тому +3

      Pointing out multiple code violations is not 'nit-picking'. 99% of the code is there to keep people safe, and the work needs to stand up to the test of time.

  • @allenemiesforeignanddomest3320

    Could you just go with a GFCI breaker instead of an outlet before going below grade?

  • @rickyseddon4786
    @rickyseddon4786 Рік тому +1

    Wow in Australia our excavation deep is 1000mm or 3 and 1/3 feet 😅 you’re so lucky

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      in Canada we can drop a treated 2x4 on top and save a few inches of fill

  • @robertzeigler370
    @robertzeigler370 Рік тому +2

    you must ground the circuit at a sub panel at a shed with a ground rod

  • @jesseperezonedeep
    @jesseperezonedeep 3 місяці тому

    Great job💯💯💯just what I was looking for for thanks

  • @jimh4167
    @jimh4167 Рік тому +1

    IMO.
    I always over size my conduit runs
    and never let the conductors get tangled in the pull
    Then if other circuits or ? Are needed
    It's easy to use the ground wire to pull in more conductors

  • @brianblack8493
    @brianblack8493 6 місяців тому

    Nice how to video. I especially liked the min depth graphic. One question, for some reason I am under the impression I should only used lose wires and not romex though. Just want to get your opinion on that if you don't mind. ty!

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 6 місяців тому

      You can't use NM (romex) underground, but you can direct bury UF cable or direct burial rated individual conductors. If using conduit, individual THHN conductors is your best option. Installing UF in conduit underground, while allowed, is amateurish and foolish.

  • @MShort0
    @MShort0 2 роки тому +5

    Nice work. Would have liked to see the overhead led light at night!

    • @AndrewThronImprovements
      @AndrewThronImprovements  2 роки тому +1

      Can’t believe I forgot to include that! I just posted a reel on IG that shows the overhead LED at night over @Atimprovements. Thanks for watching, Matthew!

  • @jacksonnra1856
    @jacksonnra1856 Рік тому +7

    I stopped using direct burial years ago. Not worth the extra dig or occasional tree planting that nicks it an causes issues..Conduit all day.

  • @rickm7209
    @rickm7209 Рік тому +2

    I don’t think NEC allows for underground Romex. PVC conduit under NEC rules is 18” deep. You may need primer then glue for fittings - not sure.

    • @SeanFitz-vo4fm
      @SeanFitz-vo4fm 10 місяців тому

      Primer may not be required if the glue manufacturer does not state that it is required. The 'electrical' pvc glue sold in Home Depot is different than the 'plumbing' glue. The plumbing glue usually requires primer.

  • @ysidroavila6454
    @ysidroavila6454 8 місяців тому

    Good video, I think it's good if you make a follow up or edit this video to show and explain your mistakes and code infractions

  • @KurtNoakes
    @KurtNoakes Рік тому +13

    Should use THHN wire in conduit. Not romex.

    • @bizzfo
      @bizzfo Рік тому +2

      UF-B isn’t Romex

    • @KurtNoakes
      @KurtNoakes Рік тому +1

      @@bizzfo I think UF-B is much more expensive. When I was an electrician we direct buried UF-B but used THHN in conduit. It's been a lot of years so I may be wrong.

    • @bizzfo
      @bizzfo Рік тому +1

      @@KurtNoakes putting UF-B in conduit isn’t a matter of violating code. If anything it’s overkill and a pain in the rear. you’re not going to fail inspection as a result.

    • @KurtNoakes
      @KurtNoakes Рік тому +1

      @@bizzfo Yea, I remember that stuff being hard to strip. People watch these videos to see the best way to do something. and we don't want to spread bad info. I thought the video was showing romex being pulled through the conduit. Sorry if I offended anybody

    • @dhazz1536
      @dhazz1536 Рік тому +6

      @@KurtNoakes you are correct! Romex should not be ran in that length of conduit. Romex is not rated to be in conduit. Romex is usually ran in a conduit when it comes from a protected area to a non-protected area. I.E. coming down a garage wall from the attic. This video should be taken down simply for the NEC code violations. Electricity is dangerous and ridiculous videos like this make it worse!

  • @michaelfahim5878
    @michaelfahim5878 2 роки тому +5

    Not sure you can double up wires on the same outlet terminal I think the better/safer way is to make pigtails, but I'm not a sparky.

    • @ktw7hu
      @ktw7hu Рік тому +2

      You are correct. Only one wire per terminal unless listed for more.

  • @PatrickGuerrisi
    @PatrickGuerrisi Рік тому

    How did you waterproof the conduit bends? THats what I dont know. Worried water will creep in on the 90 degree bend angle joins ( whatever they are called)

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +1

      You don't. All underground conduits end up with water in them, no waterproofing required.

  • @markrherman
    @markrherman Рік тому

    Nice job, but you'll need to walk to the house if you trip a breaker. Do you need to cover the exposed horizonal runs of Romex so that they can't be damaged from accidental contact or used to hang things or used as a ladder to reach higher items?

  • @danboone9674
    @danboone9674 9 місяців тому

    thanks great vid, I learn a lot, electricity is scary to me.

  • @michaelramsey7592
    @michaelramsey7592 4 місяці тому

    Great video. Since the shed is not on concrete, why didn't you dig under the frame and come up on the inside?

  • @slimmm723
    @slimmm723 7 місяців тому +1

    Well Done , sir.

  • @Snypler
    @Snypler Рік тому +4

    The idiot that ran power to my shed buried a direct line with no conduit only 3" under the soil. I hit it while digging a hole for a plant and thought it was a tree root until I took a closer look.

    • @Sparkeycarp
      @Sparkeycarp Рік тому +1

      Next time use a licensed electrician.

    • @Snypler
      @Snypler Рік тому +1

      @@Sparkeycarp I discovered it after living in the house for two years. Let me go back in time and give that advice to the previous owner.

  • @trevorkerr8381
    @trevorkerr8381 Рік тому

    good looking shed

  • @ghc7910
    @ghc7910 Рік тому

    I’m doing this tomorrow but I’m burying under concrete to my garage from house do those depths still apply for concrete ?

  • @JAM-zb2vh
    @JAM-zb2vh 2 місяці тому

    Thats true it is hard to get the cable to make all them bends take your time and get it right to all DUI installers.

  • @Stormorbiter
    @Stormorbiter Рік тому

    When burying PVC conduit, be sure to use schedule 80
    If you are using 240V or non-GFCI protected, PVC conduit should be 18” deep

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому +2

      There's no need to use Sch80 for burial, Sch40 is fine. Burial depth depends on location, anywhere from 0"-24".

  • @puiricleaningrestoration6000
    @puiricleaningrestoration6000 5 місяців тому +2

    Romex can not be used in conduit in wet locations by code. You should have used different wire,

  • @mytubebobbie06h
    @mytubebobbie06h Рік тому

    Great job! It gave me some inspiration.

  • @tomchristensen2914
    @tomchristensen2914 Місяць тому

    I was told when running romex through conduit that if it was outside it was considered wet locations and had to be seperate thhn

  • @YTSparty
    @YTSparty 19 днів тому

    Everything I'm reading online says you can't use Romex outside especially in conduit. Or in an area that's considered damp or wet.

  • @pinecorey
    @pinecorey Рік тому +1

    Looks easy enough.😳

  • @ramiygr.3629
    @ramiygr.3629 2 місяці тому

    This was very useful thank you

  • @johnseitz6578
    @johnseitz6578 3 місяці тому

    Romex isn't to be used in wet areas even in conduit. UF-B is the right wire as soon as you go out of your basement. The best thing would be use single wire THHN all the way from the panel.

  • @mouldyboats
    @mouldyboats Рік тому +7

    Your holes in blocking , joists , studs, or any framing must be NOT how you did it! Your don't want to hit it with a drywall screw for example. And holes off the center weaken the structure.
    This guy is a Code violation nightmare!

    • @petermoto409
      @petermoto409 Рік тому

      From his videos and some of the comments codes don't seem to matter much.

    • @CannibalSheepQc
      @CannibalSheepQc 9 місяців тому

      at the very least protector plates...

  • @joebobjenkins7837
    @joebobjenkins7837 Рік тому

    I had the contractor on my addition put in a designated 20 amp breaker with an outlet outside so that I could run power later on. Its now later on and Im not sure what gauge was used to route to the first outlet. Given the work they did on the rest I suspect its the bare minimum, likely 12ga, maybe even 14 ga. Total length from box to shed is gonna be about 100ft of run. Im worried I might need to rewire the initial run to 6ga wire. Thoughts?

    • @josearenas1805
      @josearenas1805 Рік тому

      If it is only a 20 amp breaker. 12s are fine. If the run is over 100 ft I’d use 10s.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      #6 would be if you needed 60A @ 240v . 100ft you'd probably be fine with 20A breaker but safer to use 15a breaker if you simple junction more #12 off (assuming that existing #12) . You can down the breaker size but not the wire size.

  • @dave_ecclectic
    @dave_ecclectic Рік тому

    As this is how to add electricity to a shed and not run a wire, I will add that you can also add a battery system, possibly with solar to recharge it. (Called Portable power.)
    What it costs is offset by it's simplicity and may be better for some people. It might be cheaper also.
    You do have to recharge it. Either by carrying for smaller systems or wheeling it to a power source or adding a solar source to recharge it where it sits.
    He states 120V x20 amps= 2400 watts There are systems much larger than this.

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      guaranteed it won't be cheaper. Likely not to code further yet.

    • @dave_ecclectic
      @dave_ecclectic 8 місяців тому

      ​@@thedavesofourlives1
      It may not be cheaper, but you don't know this in every situation. Long distances or rocky soil? Paying someone to dig the trench? Is it indeed guaranteed? But then I only said it _might_ be.
      Why would it not meet code?

  • @dfj555
    @dfj555 Рік тому +1

    Also, use 12 gauge for outlets and 14 gauge for light fixtures.

    • @KevinCoop1
      @KevinCoop1 Рік тому

      That’s not NEC. Could be local though.

    • @armyfazer1410
      @armyfazer1410 Рік тому +3

      12 gauge on 20 amp, 14 is good on 15

  • @bentodd7549
    @bentodd7549 2 місяці тому

    According to code you must install a pull box every 360 degrees in bends you make in conduit

  • @jeremiahnewsom7775
    @jeremiahnewsom7775 10 місяців тому

    excellent video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @richardh568
    @richardh568 6 місяців тому +39

    NOOOO!!! You cannot use romex in any type of conduit OUTSIDE. And you are definitely OUTSIDE. Should have used THHN. Yo

  • @shelleyroberts8335
    @shelleyroberts8335 Рік тому

    Great video! Would you link the light fixtures on front of shed? TIA

  • @thomasroemen1953
    @thomasroemen1953 Рік тому +1

    The wire would pull through the pipe more easily if you unrolled it first. Doing so removes the twist.

  • @713bvns
    @713bvns Рік тому

    So once you run UF underground to a shed you can connect it to a switch or a outlet & then you can then switch to 12/2 romex? have a project coming up just wondering ..

    • @pld8993
      @pld8993 Рік тому

      Yes

    • @thedavesofourlives1
      @thedavesofourlives1 8 місяців тому

      be prepared to leg it to the device to reset the GFCI once water condenses into that conduit from the air and causes false tripping. Better to bury the extra depth and not have to GFCI it.

  • @nickbrutanna9973
    @nickbrutanna9973 10 місяців тому

    Is there a reason you have that hole drilled in the vertical 4x4 that you mounted your GFC outlet onto?

  • @TurboMountTV
    @TurboMountTV 6 місяців тому +1

    Headline says "DIY".
    Then description says only do if licensed.
    Got it.
    If I was licensed I wouldn't need this video.

    • @ProudDadVet
      @ProudDadVet 5 місяців тому

      If nothing else, consult a Licensed Electrician... We give free advice and some ( like me) will do a bit hands on for.... A sandwich and Mt. Dew. LOL ( IBEW 890 Strong)

    • @TurboMountTV
      @TurboMountTV 5 місяців тому

      @@ProudDadVet I'd offer some bud, but never encountered an electrician or plumber who'd travel to someone's home without a service charge, let alone give free advice.

    • @TurboMountTV
      @TurboMountTV 5 місяців тому

      @@ProudDadVet My 70 year old house (I bought 5 years ago in TX) only has 2 wire electrical, no ground. I'd sure like some advice if its possible to ground them, without re-wiring whole house $$. (Austin code allows install GFI - with a sticker- as a make do, but that isn't a true ground of course.)
      And what is weird is there are 2 plugs that are grounded 1 in bathroom and 1 in kitchen (guess 1952 code only required that near water), yet the panel itself is NOT grounded so I wondered how those 2 are grounded - maybe to plumbing somewhere (which isn't allowed here anymore)?
      Really p's me off, in 1952 it may have added maybe additional $50 to the builder to use 3 wire cable instead of 2. Now it will cost ~$10,000 to rewire.

    • @ProudDadVet
      @ProudDadVet 5 місяців тому

      @@TurboMountTV there are (3) ways to update the grounding per the NEC. Rewire the outlets ($$$$$$$$) or install a GFCI outlet at the start of the circuit or install a GFCI Breaker in the Panel that controls the outlets.

    • @ProudDadVet
      @ProudDadVet 5 місяців тому

      @@TurboMountTV Damn, that's just sad and a stain on my (our profession). If they had any brains, they would advertise free advice as that would bring in a LOT of new customers, and I know that from personal experience. I am swamped with work for that very reason.

  • @SinnerSince1962
    @SinnerSince1962 10 місяців тому +23

    You cannot run any Romex outside of the house, as it’s considered a wet location, even in pvc.

    • @seymourwrasse3321
      @seymourwrasse3321 6 місяців тому

      back in my day, we did our jackleg jobs and kept quiet about it, now jacklegs make a video to brag about it

  • @martybillich5430
    @martybillich5430 Рік тому

    Good coverage, well done.

  • @BillyNeverDies
    @BillyNeverDies 7 місяців тому +1

    I have several landscaping lights on my new property that don't work. I just discovered that I have 15amp romex buried a whopping 2" below the ground. Directly into the ground. Someone didn't care about the rules.