For those who uses metric and want to know how far these cars went: Mercedes : 194 miles = 312km Audi : 206 miles = 331km Nissan : 208 miles = 334km Jaguar : 223 miles = 358km Kia : 255 miles = 410km Tesla : 270 miles = 434km Based on the amount of likes and comments my comment got I think people do agree that carwow needs to have a straight up converter from miles to km. Due to the large following carwow already got.
Honestly I feel like the kia was the true winner simply because of how close it came to it`s claimed range, and when you consider what you get for the price it`s probably the most sensible buy overall...
You also have to consider charging speed. The Model 3 has the fastest charging speed compared to all the cars in the video. Try travelling with both and you will see how the Model 3 is the real winner.
problem with the e-Niro and Kona Electric is the slow recharging speed (just 3.7 kW AC and around 50 kW DC), which is more relevant on a daily commute.
@@ElAnikilador001 the Model 3's battery has somewhat a weak spot when it comes to colder temperatures. Experts say that's due to the very certain battery chemistry used for the Model 3 - optimizing long-term battery life and charging rates.
@@UltraJaff I think ultimately, they're very different type of cars for very different people. Kia/Hyundai are affordable every day cars, there's nothing sexy about them whereas Tesla tries to attract people who are car enthusiasts. On the basis of driving a Hyundai EV for two years I'd definitely recommend them to anyone looking for a practical and reliable car. But if you want that something extra.. maybe not.
They should’ve timed how long each one was driving in the parking lots. People have done 800ish miles in the model S by merely traveling at low speeds while avoiding any acceleration. So the ones who played it more safe, exited the highway at a higher range, and roamed around the parking lots for longer periods probably had a much higher advantage. Then there’s also the speed and acceleration differences between the drivers in their lots that also increased the margin of error. Unfortunately, this test lost a lot of its accuracy after the drivers took their exits.
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As time of video: Mercedes EQC: 75% of claimed range, Audi e-tron: 81% of claimed range Nissan Leaf: 87% of claimed range Jaguar I-Pace: 75% of claimed range Kia e-Niro: 90% of claimed range Tesla model 3: 78% of claimed range
The Tesla actually had more like 87% of its claimed range. There is no configuration of model 3 that Tesla claims can do 348 miles. The one they tested has a max claimed range of 310 miles.
@CommonSense 348 miles is the range of the model s performance, so I think they just got their signals crossed. My model 3 has only ever shown 305 after a full charge. So, the display couldn't have been showing 348
Interestingly the Nissan and the Kia were closer to their claimed range than the "premium brand cars", and I can't help but think it's something to do with the motors being twice as powerful.
That was the most interesting video for a long time. Really enlightening on how far e-cars will go. Hands down, that Kia impressed me most, especially for the value. Thank you 🙂
@@vlip8334 I was also impressed that the Niro came closest to it's claimed range. We're used to cars not doing anything like the manufacturers claims, so to see that was refreshing.
And it's even refused to let you use the cars Bluetooth connection and some drive assists under 25% to reduce battery use. I think that's kind of bad for that price.
@@povilasmarveloustv3810 The reason is that the test was practically only highway mileage which is the worst for EV's. Tesla likely has a better regen system than the Kia so that's why its suffered a bigger loss compared to the official range.
Kia use heat pumps which is superior in efficient while Tesla use resistance heater for lower build cost but drain much more power. Without using heat in warmer weather model 3 should do better.
For me Kia is the winner here, there's more confidence in its marketing material and still does an impressive range in unfavorable conditions for the battery.
I know ppl said it already, but man Kia really outperformed all other cars from huge brands... This is really impressive! Good job Kia! And being the cheapest aswell...
with normal use you charge the battery to full overnight, when going on long trips plan for stops when your battery gets down to 15-20% if you use dc fast charging getting to 80% battery should only take 20-30 min so basically a bathroom break and getting a snack and you good to go. Most people only drive at most 500 miles before they need to rest overnight at which time you plug it in to top it off
Evan Johnson the overwhelming lack of chargers in rural US and Canada makes electric cars sound like an absolute nightmare. Based on the amount of Tesla’s I see parked on the side of the road with no owner in sight tells me that the idiots from California don’t plan their trips properly. These cars would work fine in town if people could settle with slow dc chargers, but in my area electric cars are far from ideal for most of the population.
@@specialestness how often to you refill you gas car? I fill mine around every 2 weeks, but with EV's(especially Teslas) you start with a full tank every day and have over 300 miles of driving before you have to fill up, so 90% of driving is the same, when taking long trips you have to do a little pre-planning or let Tesla's gps system plot a course for you there are enough superchargers to get anywhere in the US if you follow the system.
Evan Johnson the 300 mile range is obviously not applicable where I live. We get extreme winds and have prolonged steep inclines followed by very gradual declines. I typically get about 2 or 3 days on a tank. Furthermore, I can’t imagine the extreme temperature variances is very good for an electric cars battery. I can make my normal commute and see a temperature shift upwards of 60*f. My closest DC fast chargers are Tesla supercharges...90 miles away...and that’s completely off the path I would ever think about taking. I make 2-3 bigger road trips in a given year to meet family. Taking the specified Tesla route would add over 3 hours to my trip...not to mention the extra stop time. My closest Tesla dealer is 13 hours away or 6 if I want to attempt to import one to the states. As I said earlier, these cars are probably great for some people, but definitely not for the majority of the people around me.
I’m a vehicle recovery technician and Iv recovered many of these cars. The Tesla tow mode is not for flat or support tows what it dose is raises the suspension for easier loading into a flatbed truck if the tow truck isn’t a super low access truck. For example a normal tilt and slide tow trucks loading angle on the bed might be too steep so the bumper would scrape and be damaged. The Nissan Leaf sometimes locks out as do all of them but the interesting fact is that they all have a normal 12v battery much like any internal combustion engine car dose, so all you do is get a battery jump pack and get some power into the car to get them into neutral. As in a case I had just yesterday if u don’t do this the vehicle may not let u charge it until the neutral or park position is selected hope this helps
Jony P. I am also in the tow business, have only had to deal with the Tesla. the tow mode also makes it so the car will roll with no one in the drivers seat making it so you can load the car by oneself.
It's not much of an advertisement for electric cars if you have recovered lots of them. I've had my 2004 Honda recovered once in my seven years of ownership, and that was after a deer decided to commit suicide on the front of it.
@@theninethrees8044 you are insane. Because statistics also say that there is no difference between Corona and normal flu. People also die from normal flu, but nobody panics there. The Corona pandemic stuff is just propaganda. Knowing someone that died from it, makes no difference. I do not accept and do not censent to those lockdown and mask shit, because i do not fall for propaganda.
Yes, for the UK, put chargers at the pubs, massive amount of problems solved (not in the least, excuse to go to the pub) and everyone switches to electric instantly.
I might be wrong, but this is the first video of this sort i've seen and its brilliant. Good job carwow. Also, the Kia is a god damn boss! Incredible result, considering the price and all.
@@ImtiazKhan-yl9rz The MG has been being delivered since the end of last year, I saw a customer picking their one up when my car was being serviced.....
@@pheladiletsoalo also luxury cars need more energy than normal ones, but thats nothing EV specific. if you Buy a Merc or Audi you expect better comfort and that requires more energy.
Zafer Ahmad one of the best as well reminded me of that one legendary Top Gear ⚙️ episode where they drove old budget supercars until they ran out of fuel ⛽️. Nostalgia kicking in 🤩
As an I-Pace owner, I'm a bit disappointed in the fact the I-pace was the only one that was not in cruise control during this drive. The driver kept throttling up and down, which I admit is extremely enjoyable in this vehicle, but with 20k miles in the 2020 Ipace SE on the same 20's, I would have expected him to get closer to 234+ miles going those speeds in CC. Great video, though.
Because they already have made loads of electric cars in korea Theres an island called jeju island which is perfect size for electric cars and other experiments They also made lots of shitty electic cars But nowadays they are really good for it’s price And also remeber kia is owned by Hyundai so they can try lots of things
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi I went from a Kia to a Tesla and I couldn't disagree more. I wouldn't touch a Kia again as long as I live; it's a hockey puck in harsh weather
While watching this video, i didn't realise that my phone's battery was 1 percent remaining. Fortunately, i was able to push it to the charging station.
Well... With a sample of 1 of each car, multiple variables (different weights in each car, different drivers in each car, different variations of drafting cars/distances, different age of batteries/car, etc...) I wouldn't say it is the MOST useful video ever. Just go with the EPA results.. which are STANDARDIZED with every vehicle they test. Even if you claim that EPA estimates are "flawed", they are done the same on each and every car so no car gets an advantage anyhow even if the methodology is "wrong". I'm amazed how many of you trust this one video instance vs an organization that does this for a living for every car that is sold in the USA. Think about it. Who would you rather trust? An official rating from an organization that does this day in and day out for a living that has decades upon decades or experience, or a one-off experiment UA-camr?
@@Cy8borg I've been on the road for work for about 5 years now and I certainly see that as a practical range for consultants. Bonus points for free parking at the airport.
@@mckevindauntless698 yes yes,it is definitely the winner with the 48000£price tag compared to 33000 and only 78 percent of claimed range against 90. And I remind you,it is the long range version.
if you have money, you don't care all that much for repair costs. I still don't think Mercedes rates that low... my parents have owned two C classes which lasted about 8-9 years with no issues
CarTalk HD 8-9 years? My dad’s Maruti Suzuki is still going strong after 13+ years and being driven on Indian roads. The car was priced at £4000 in 2006 with all the bells and whistles.
And in not perfect condition! That something they actually don't say, those ranges miles are always under perfect condition, just like all cars petrol or not. Lol Impressive to be honest
It sucks that the car manufacturers lie about the estimated range to gain a market advantage. Sure, under different conditions the cars could go a bit further, but nowhere near their estimated range. Respect to Kia for being honest. I drive a Tesla model 3 lr 2021 and the car can't ever, ever go anywhere near the estimated range. Under ideal conditions the model 3 lr can probably do 85% or so of the estimated range.
nomoreheroes93 I’m about to start my electric toaster tests unless you know someone who’s been doing it since 1998 . DM me before I waste my life’s work.
I don't understand the dislikes. Their team literally spent 10-12 hrs driving, planning, editing, among others, compressed it down to 30 mins of FREE CONTENT, and still get 4.3k dislikes? Come on guys you can do better.
@@prpr9570 nice argument. If you use Fahrenheit in Europe, where they seem to love celcius, the temperature stays basically between 0 and 100. How is that not intuitive? Outside of those ranges you basically want to stay inside. Celcius is always going negative, 40 degrees being very hot is not intuitive, neither is -xx being truly cold, once more, I even see some weather reports using half degrees with celcius. Everyone should have just stick with Fahrenheit...
@@arthol51 that is completely false. Super charging throttles and limits battery degradation. Two years ago sure. Today not even close. I have 35k miles on my model 3 10k+ of those are supercharging. I have a max range of 303 miles out of 310...... Teslafi also supports what I'm saying (over ten thousand users with data supporting this)
josh62294 think about it. Whether or not the chemistry is different at varying charge rates, which it is likely to be, Fast charging stresses all components in the battery and coolant system, as well as the structure of the battery due to thermal effects. It will degrade faster. Only you fool pretends otherwise. The true question is how much faster and is it significant to the average person?
@@McDoodle44 Yeah, they go really far with their battery and although it's not as far as the Tesla, at least it can reach 90% of its claimed range which is very good.
Drove the e Niro last month ,really impressive performance,the guy who’s car it was said there’s no exhaust to replace(obviously) and you hardly have to touch the brakes but the acceleration is addictive you’ll never keep it in tyres...😂😂😂👍genuine game changer...
25:45 Range comparison (Temp: 5C, partly with headlights on) Mercedes EQC: 194 mi (312 km), 75% claimed range Audi e-tron: 206 mi (332 km), 81% claimed range Nissan leaf: 208 mi (335 km), 87% claimed range Jaguar I-Pace: 223 mi (359 km), 76% claimed range Kia e-Niro: 255 mi (410 km), 90% claimed range Tesla model 3 long range version: 270 mi (435 km), 78% claimed range p.s. Diesel cars run for around 75%, says the video
What do you mean by 75% of the video ? I drive my old A3 Sportback from 2006 and i can drive 670kms till the next refuel if i drive correctly and with adequate speed. And that is also with headlights on, AC on with a decent 18 Degrees + stereo and other accessoires i have on it. My father with his A4 Avant from 2016 can go up to 800kms on a single fuel if he's driving eco mode.
Also it's pretty efficient, as ist only has 64kWh usable battery capacity, compared to 80kWh in the EQC or the ~73kWh of the Model 3 LR. In terms of efficiency that would be: * eNiro: 4 mi/kWh * Model 3 LR: 3.7 mi/kWh * EQC: 2.4 mi/kWh
I mean, it is by far the smallest and slowest and has a budget interior and features. The Kia likely holds the title as the best budget EV, but that wasn't the point of this test.
5252085 And for those who don’t understand: the car will lock you out of autopilot if you’ve been ignoring prompts to hold the steering wheel, till you pull over and park. Then you’re out of jail ;-) and free to repeat if you want....
I understand what you're saying but it didn't do the most range. If it was a contest of which manufacturer is the most accurate with their claimed range then yeah fair enough, Kia wins
That makes no sense at all. This isn't a "the manufacturer got the figures right rating" it's how far the car goes. What's the real world use of such a pointless metric? Plus I have no idea where they got the 348mile range from unless it is WLTP rating cz EPA gives the Tesla 310miles. Wish the Kona was included as well
@John Small what makes you say that? It didn't have the most range. Plus you have so many metrics when buying a car. I can't imagine someone who wants an eqc luxury going for a Niro. Teslas have autopilot , constant updates etc. These cars appeal to different people. ...
@@maxxlawrence which is what he pretty much claimed it'd be at the start of the video. But I guess he set out to make the Tesla "win" by taking out the ER version rather than the SR version, which would have died a lot earlier than the Niro.
@@huntille1214 I think that was already accounted for. In other words, the range trip odometers were probably reset to 0 at 100% right after unplugging instead of at 96% or 95% when they started the driving "experiment". Otherwise that would be a major oversight...
I'm watching this on my laptop and started the video with 60% to start by the time the video was over I had 51% left. My battery life feels like the claimed range of the Kia eNero.
Which browser do you use for youtube? AFAIK best mileage provides MS Edge. Even so I use Windows 10 UWP application (myTube) which is even better in that regard.
Given that most cars dropped 5% charge overnight, the KIA would have possibly been in the low 90's...an even better result. Kudos to KIA for keeping their range numbers real world 👍
Thank you so much for you gentlemen's entire effort on doing this test for us. It is really helpful & meaningful. Again, Thank you very much.....A message from a Hong Konger.
@@robwalker4653 I disagree. Its cost that's puts people off and not understanding how distance works in an electric vehicle. If an electric car was $20 000 and only had 200 range no one would buy it. Make an electric car that does 400 miles for the same price and everyone would be all over it no matter how efficient it was
Absolutely brilliant Matt and the team. I've a Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid which I've owned for 3 years and absolutely love driving it. I've driven the Model 3 Tesla, Kia Niro, ID3, And Ioniq 5 EV's and whist I like Tesla as a brand and for its long range. Kia and Hyundai do it for me. Especially the Ioniq 5 with is good range. I'd love to see a 'real world range' test on that one. Keep up the good work buddy.
I was watching this on my laptop and my laptop said "Battery critically low, charge now" right as the Tesla was starting to shut down. I thought I was part of the experiment 🤣
This is the best real world test I've seen to date. I would like to see this type of test repeated at different climate conditions, winter where the heat/defrost are working harder. Likewise, extreme heat as in Arizona where the AC is working hard.
I think even though the AC will drain the battery , the battery should be happier at a warmer climate maybe it will balance it out. Not sure about Arizona extremes tho... Also Dubai in the summer is a another extreme reaching temperatures 43 °C (109 °F) I havent really seen a video in that climate, worth noting Patrol/Gas prices in the UK are generally double the price you guys get in the US and in the Middle east its really cheap abt a quater of the US prices. I wonder what the charging cost are like over an year in different regions. We should see what Ford and Chevy comes up with in the future should be more competible with KIA in terms of prices .
I forgot about that. I was thinking "uh oh, they all underperformed, am I in trouble with my Model 3 SR+?" But I forgot about the temperature. And where I'm at it rarely goes below 60 F (120+ during the summers), so maybe I'm okay afterall.
The Tesla will probably win again because it's the most efficient car out of the bunch and it was built with really hot climates in mind, not like the kia which was build with cold weather in mind.
lower the result by 30% because no one will drive only on highway with best speed possible to preserve the battery. And battery is new. If you use the car for one year it will go down even more. All batteries lose strength over time. When electric cars reach about 800km range then they will be okay to buy. For now it's not that good. So they need about 2.5x better batteries.
@@nathanchristiansen1049 Well it’s more of a 5 + 2 but not to bad, problem is that it would cost 140 000$ for the base price (1 250 000 sek), about dubbel what my parents were ready to pay, and the car wouldn’t be delivered for quite a while, sadly the tech isn’t there yet
The Tesla had a female passenger that weight around 120lbs that's almost 187 watts hrs being lost in transit. Then there are headlights that takes energy
@@mesoanto1031 I think there was a third passenger, the camera man Note that in the last few meters, he says, "Come on, GUYS, you can do it." In the US mileage figures are based on a 300 payload With camera equipment, and maybe oovernight bags for three, they may well have exceede 450 pounds.
@Xaris Xeros yes, also it might not be 100% what Kia claimed because as he said in the beginning temperature matters and well it is quite cold in the uk. So kia is probably the most accurate with statements including temperature variation
They got the rated range wrong for the Model 3. They used the rated range for the Model S Performance instead of the Model 3 Long Range AWD. The rated range for this car they used in the video is actually 310 miles not 348 so at the end it actually tied for second best at 87%
I have the Kia Niro I love it. I always get 300 miles easily daily. I’m a full time taxi driver and this car is perfect for it. In Hawaii don’t need to worry about cold issue. I also did upgrade the audio system with a sub and it don’t effect the range at all.
Dylan Ansems well yea but it isn’t exactly built as a performance vehicle. Very few people who want performance go for electric vehicles. If someone wants EV performance, definitely go for the Tesla. However people that buy Kia’s are most of the time just looking for cheap and efficient commuter cars.
@@David_Gonzalez_ Its more expensive than the model 3, especially after dealer markup. No over the air updates, lackluster automated driving features that are unlikely to improve over time, slow, no large screen to play games on or watch movies on while waiting for the car to charge, no supercharger network (electrify america isn't nearly as good), no sentry mode to catch vandals, no frunk for extra storage. There's nothing exciting about it. I have a family and yet I still want a little excitement. This doesn't have it. Its such a boring electric car. If it was significantly cheaper than a Tesla it might be a harder choice.
Great informative video for anyone considering switching to electric vehicles. But it would be interesting to know how much it cost and how long it takes to recharge them back to full capacity
I know this comment is old, but I'd like to point out the reason they likely don't do that. This is likely to do with the fact that electricity rates can vary so widely even from one block to another, because of different charge rates, and also different ways to charge. You can however find many calculators online that will do the math for you if you'd really like to know.
So easily said kia was the most honest out of the others in claimed range????? also all the car were driven in the same routes, so they would have consumed the same amount of energy (at least i think?)
It's epa range. (at least for tesla). There is no dishonesty there, they are not the ones measuring the final range. 10-15% difference is totally acceptable, as there is 2 things as *elevation* and your *driving style*. Heck, you can do *unlimited miles* going downhill.
@@ConfusedBaconBoi If you go uphill you consume more energy. Driving style and road conditions may effect +-10%. No brands are honest or dishonest, as their ranges are all measured by epa.
@@alimertc The EPA doesn't measure range nor do they test vehicles, Tesla self-reports it to the EPA and they optimize for the driving cycle. Other manufacturers have sometimes done this as well and it has resulted in scandals like the Japanese 50 PSI tires and such.
Since carwow didn't include some statistics that would've interested me so I calculated them. I share them for everyone that is interested: Car /// Battery capacity (kWh) /// Range (mi) /// Miles/kWh /// Weight (kg) /// Weight adjustment (Miles/kWh * kg; higher is better) Kia eNiro /// 64 /// 255 /// 3,98 /// 1866 /// 7434,84 Tesla Model 3 /// 75 /// 270 /// 3,60 /// 1847 /// 6649,2 Mercedes EQC /// 80 /// 194 /// 2,42 /// 2495 /// 6050,37 Audi etron /// 95 /// 206 /// 2,16 /// 2565 /// 5562 Nissan Leaf /// 62 /// 208 /// 3,35 /// 1640 /// 5501,93 Jaguar i-Pace /// 90 /// 223 /// 2,47 /// 2208 /// 5470,93 To account for different car types (SUV/Limousine) I tried to adjust their weight to learn something about the efficiency (last column). I know this isn't a very meaningful metric, but gives an impression. Conclusion: eNiro kicks ass!
It's not only efficiency. At least not only drivetrain efficiency. Tires can have impact on range. Still Kia drivetrain is exceptional, though. The car has much more drag, since it is Crossover. It will be even more efficient if it's lower like Ioniq and with better drag coefficient.
I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonota hybrid and get over 600 miles per tank. The battery efficiency has deteriorated over the years because it got about 650 miles per tank when it was new. The battery efficiency does drop after a few years and that does affect the resale value.
@9600GTMAN Why are you so angry? Tesla surely is not shitty. It is the one which started the Electric vehicle revolution. Now everyone is following them which is a good thing. Now there is electric, Hydrogen and many other alternatives coming up. Tesla is better built, better quality, has advanced technology and software.
It's not a matter of honesty - it's a matter of guessing how most people will use their cars. So it's a matter of gathering data. They base the ranges on a set of lab tests (WLTP) that are never 100% accurate. Want more range? Slow down. That's the biggest thing really.
For those who uses metric and want to know how far these cars went:
Mercedes : 194 miles = 312km
Audi : 206 miles = 331km
Nissan : 208 miles = 334km
Jaguar : 223 miles = 358km
Kia : 255 miles = 410km
Tesla : 270 miles = 434km
Based on the amount of likes and comments my comment got I think people do agree that carwow needs to have a straight up converter from miles to km. Due to the large following carwow already got.
Kia offers great value for the money.
Kia wins this for me
Thanks man, much appreciated!
JAG 💕
Wow kia..
Honestly I feel like the kia was the true winner simply because of how close it came to it`s claimed range, and when you consider what you get for the price it`s probably the most sensible buy overall...
The Tesla 3 can be had for almost the same price
You also have to consider charging speed. The Model 3 has the fastest charging speed compared to all the cars in the video. Try travelling with both and you will see how the Model 3 is the real winner.
problem with the e-Niro and Kona Electric is the slow recharging speed (just 3.7 kW AC and around 50 kW DC), which is more relevant on a daily commute.
Also take into account that it did it in very cold conditions. In a warmer temperature it would have done it even closer to Kia's claimed mileage
@@ElAnikilador001 the Model 3's battery has somewhat a weak spot when it comes to colder temperatures. Experts say that's due to the very certain battery chemistry used for the Model 3 - optimizing long-term battery life and charging rates.
They drove almost a day just for us to watch a 28 minute video. Respect!
And also for their Channel to grow even bigger
@@ajay-naz6996 Well, yes.... they are doing this for their livelihood, what's your point?
They are just doing their work man
@@alh06 i mean the boss paying the guys to drive all day to grow his UA-cam channel.
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I must say, Kia surprised me again! Bright future for Kia. Carwow great job!
Hyundai/Kia imo will be one of the few “legacy” auto makers to make past this decade.
@@sergiomelgar1958 Hyundai/Kia may have a deal with APPL for autopilot now :)
Hyundai's EVs have been really reliable so far.
Kia is definitely coming for Tesla because they have 9+ new EVs coming, including the Apple Cae.
@@UltraJaff I think ultimately, they're very different type of cars for very different people. Kia/Hyundai are affordable every day cars, there's nothing sexy about them whereas Tesla tries to attract people who are car enthusiasts. On the basis of driving a Hyundai EV for two years I'd definitely recommend them to anyone looking for a practical and reliable car. But if you want that something extra.. maybe not.
Distance : Claim / Actual (KM)
1. Mercedes EQ : 417 / 312
2. Audi : 410 / 331
3. Nissan : 385 / 334
4. Jaguar I-Pace : 470 / 358
5. Kia : 454 / 410
6. Tesla Model 3 : 518 / 434
1. Kia 90%
2. Nissan 86.8%
3. Tesla 83.3%
4. Audi 80.7%
5. Jaguar 76.2%
6. Mercedes EQ 74.8%
If we were to do the honesty test
Apart from the Nissan, you can say when a manufacturer quotes a range figure, you can knock off aprox 100 kilometres.
Paul Torrisi nissan AND kia
@@frjazz7677 fine fine
They should’ve timed how long each one was driving in the parking lots. People have done 800ish miles in the model S by merely traveling at low speeds while avoiding any acceleration. So the ones who played it more safe, exited the highway at a higher range, and roamed around the parking lots for longer periods probably had a much higher advantage. Then there’s also the speed and acceleration differences between the drivers in their lots that also increased the margin of error. Unfortunately, this test lost a lot of its accuracy after the drivers took their exits.
As time of video:
Mercedes EQC: 75% of claimed range,
Audi e-tron: 81% of claimed range
Nissan Leaf: 87% of claimed range
Jaguar I-Pace: 75% of claimed range
Kia e-Niro: 90% of claimed range
Tesla model 3: 78% of claimed range
The Tesla actually had more like 87% of its claimed range. There is no configuration of model 3 that Tesla claims can do 348 miles. The one they tested has a max claimed range of 310 miles.
Thank you. This is the only really important statistics to take from this video.
@CommonSense 348 miles is the range of the model s performance, so I think they just got their signals crossed.
My model 3 has only ever shown 305 after a full charge. So, the display couldn't have been showing 348
@@afitnerd the long range awd has 348 miles wltp range in Europe
Micah Silverman they’re basing it off manufacture WLTP figures obtained through testing. The M3 LR has a WLTP rating of 348 miles.
Wow...imagine all the hard work carwow have put into this behind the scenes... Lovely job! Cheers! 👍🏼
It was a LOOOONG filming day!
@@carwow I know right.
I’m surprised they found that many drivers!
Yeah that was extensive
Facts but I respect their videos so much! Always improving which is amazing
Interestingly the Nissan and the Kia were closer to their claimed range than the "premium brand cars", and I can't help but think it's something to do with the motors being twice as powerful.
Nissan, Hyundai and Kia use the same platform for their EVs as far as I know
That was the most interesting video for a long time. Really enlightening on how far e-cars will go. Hands down, that Kia impressed me most, especially for the value. Thank you 🙂
@@vlip8334 I was also impressed that the Niro came closest to it's claimed range. We're used to cars not doing anything like the manufacturers claims, so to see that was refreshing.
@@jonburnell532 It is not the manufacturers who made those numbers, it is the WTLP.
Also 7 year warranty on the Kia.
I was watching this as my phone went from 10% to 3% and it gave the video a whole other effect
Same here! 😂😂
3% is 20 to 30 miles of range in a LRm3 depending on weather.
Oh i dont let my phone go below 40%
Mercedes Benz to Tesla. That's the only way to make a car go further.
You'll need to charge your car and phone if they're at 3%.
19:31
Me: Does the UK go by Imperial units, or the Metric system?
The UK: Yes.
Distances here to cm, feet, metres, miles xD
@@__-fm5qv and inches and yards
We buy fuel in "litres", but still use "miles per gallon"!
(and just for fun our gallon is a different size to a USA gallon!)
cry me a river.. suck it up and found out what it is yourself..
@@ZIGZAG12345 Holy fuck that's insane, how do you know how many litres do you need, do you use google to convert every time
Tesla: *stops at 269.7 miles*
Elon musk: "Nice"
Me: "Nice"
Everyone: "nice"
Nice
@@batu_cagan nice
Nice
no it would have been better if it was 240.69
btw it actually stopped at 270 instead
It’s that video by carwow that everyone wanted but no one asked for 🖖🏻😁👍
That Kia did great considering its shape and price, especially alongside Tesla long range company. Great work Mat and Carwow as always👍🏽
not to mention that it was the most honest with it's claimed range. I wouldn't be happy with that Tesla only going 78% of it's claimed range.
And it's even refused to let you use the cars Bluetooth connection and some drive assists under 25% to reduce battery use. I think that's kind of bad for that price.
@@povilasmarveloustv3810 The reason is that the test was practically only highway mileage which is the worst for EV's. Tesla likely has a better regen system than the Kia so that's why its suffered a bigger loss compared to the official range.
All Kiaand Hyundai EVs are actually among the best in terms of battery efficiency
Kia use heat pumps which is superior in efficient while Tesla use resistance heater for lower build cost but drain much more power. Without using heat in warmer weather model 3 should do better.
Kia deserved its share of the appreciation for sticking to the claimed range and not exaggerating numbers.
For me Kia is the winner here, there's more confidence in its marketing material and still does an impressive range in unfavorable conditions for the battery.
snaplash They all fell short because the claimed range is not in highway driving. electric cars do better at lower speeds.
seems like kia is advertising highwat range and the rest are doing combined range. Jag appears to be advertising city range lol
Yes, the winner should be whatever car got closest to it's stated range.
@@MalawisLilleKanal I wouldn't say winner but they should get recognition for it. I'd still rather have the teslas extra range
I know ppl said it already, but man Kia really outperformed all other cars from huge brands... This is really impressive! Good job Kia! And being the cheapest aswell...
Wonder how many people bought this car
@@iamverycoolV2 over 300K people world wide
@@UltraJaff thx
@@iamverycoolV2 I did. Still making it after 1 year.
@@UltraJaff oh thats a not bad sale figure.... Cheers to Kia
I get anxious when my phone gets down to low battery I can't imagine the panic attack I'd be having as my car battery is on 3%
with normal use you charge the battery to full overnight, when going on long trips plan for stops when your battery gets down to 15-20% if you use dc fast charging getting to 80% battery should only take 20-30 min so basically a bathroom break and getting a snack and you good to go. Most people only drive at most 500 miles before they need to rest overnight at which time you plug it in to top it off
Evan Johnson the overwhelming lack of chargers in rural US and Canada makes electric cars sound like an absolute nightmare. Based on the amount of Tesla’s I see parked on the side of the road with no owner in sight tells me that the idiots from California don’t plan their trips properly. These cars would work fine in town if people could settle with slow dc chargers, but in my area electric cars are far from ideal for most of the population.
@@specialestness how often to you refill you gas car? I fill mine around every 2 weeks, but with EV's(especially Teslas) you start with a full tank every day and have over 300 miles of driving before you have to fill up, so 90% of driving is the same, when taking long trips you have to do a little pre-planning or let Tesla's gps system plot a course for you there are enough superchargers to get anywhere in the US if you follow the system.
Evan Johnson the 300 mile range is obviously not applicable where I live. We get extreme winds and have prolonged steep inclines followed by very gradual declines. I typically get about 2 or 3 days on a tank. Furthermore, I can’t imagine the extreme temperature variances is very good for an electric cars battery. I can make my normal commute and see a temperature shift upwards of 60*f. My closest DC fast chargers are Tesla supercharges...90 miles away...and that’s completely off the path I would ever think about taking. I make 2-3 bigger road trips in a given year to meet family. Taking the specified Tesla route would add over 3 hours to my trip...not to mention the extra stop time. My closest Tesla dealer is 13 hours away or 6 if I want to attempt to import one to the states. As I said earlier, these cars are probably great for some people, but definitely not for the majority of the people around me.
Do you get anxious when low on gas?
Man...! When the cars leave to charge it kinda reminds me about the “see you again” part in fast 7.
I’m a vehicle recovery technician and Iv recovered many of these cars. The Tesla tow mode is not for flat or support tows what it dose is raises the suspension for easier loading into a flatbed truck if the tow truck isn’t a super low access truck. For example a normal tilt and slide tow trucks loading angle on the bed might be too steep so the bumper would scrape and be damaged. The Nissan Leaf sometimes locks out as do all of them but the interesting fact is that they all have a normal 12v battery much like any internal combustion engine car dose, so all you do is get a battery jump pack and get some power into the car to get them into neutral. As in a case I had just yesterday if u don’t do this the vehicle may not let u charge it until the neutral or park position is selected hope this helps
Electric cars are obsolete; it will take some time for reality to sink in
It was also shown that you can charge tesla by towing it.
Ha ha tow truck runs on derv put that in ur pipe an smoke it
Jony P. I am also in the tow business, have only had to deal with the Tesla. the tow mode also makes it so the car will roll with no one in the drivers seat making it so you can load the car by oneself.
It's not much of an advertisement for electric cars if you have recovered lots of them. I've had my 2004 Honda recovered once in my seven years of ownership, and that was after a deer decided to commit suicide on the front of it.
I love the way he says carwow. It's pretty much the only reason I watch this channel lol
Idk why you guys run these cars in miles. Running them in km gives then soooo much more range.
😂😂😂
Just like when Trump said if we do less virus testing, less people will be sick XD
Sir Boring Name hahahaha, you can simply do the conversion and still feel comfortable
segoiii You’re insane, my friend and his Dad suffered from Covid and know some people who died from it in my town. Your ignorance is unbelievable.
@@theninethrees8044 you are insane. Because statistics also say that there is no difference between Corona and normal flu. People also die from normal flu, but nobody panics there. The Corona pandemic stuff is just propaganda. Knowing someone that died from it, makes no difference.
I do not accept and do not censent to those lockdown and mask shit, because i do not fall for propaganda.
Mat: "I have won this...". Nope - the guy who got to go to the pub won it! 😄
Dam mat video Always the best
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Tup
Yup
In the end, don't need them charging stations just improve the pubs.
19:08
Yes, for the UK, put chargers at the pubs, massive amount of problems solved (not in the least, excuse to go to the pub) and everyone switches to electric instantly.
Looooooool
@@DjTonioRoffo But then drunk driving becomes much more prevalent...
@@RovingTrader this is where Tesla full self driving autopilot comes to rescue :)
Good Job, Team carwow! Highly appreciated...
I might be wrong, but this is the first video of this sort i've seen and its brilliant. Good job carwow.
Also, the Kia is a god damn boss! Incredible result, considering the price and all.
I rate kia 💪
@Seawolf I haven't even heard of that lol. I only knew about Kias eV today bc of this vid
@@Thawhid Its not yet launched but going to
@@ImtiazKhan-yl9rz The MG has been being delivered since the end of last year, I saw a customer picking their one up when my car was being serviced.....
@Seawolf honestly, i dont even know what it is or that it even existed.
Kudos for the whole team! There was definitely a lot of effort put into this. Thanks!
Cars listed by efficiency (assuming they started with battery at 95%):
Kia: 238 Wh/mile - 148 Wh/km
Tesla: 264 Wh/mile - 164 Wh/km
Nissan: 283 Wh/mile - 176 Wh/km
Jaguar: 384 Wh/mile - 239 Wh/km
Mercedes: 391 Wh/mile - 243 Wh/km
Audi: 438 Wh/mile - 272 Wh/km
In short: smaller cars are more efficient
@@pheladiletsoalo also luxury cars need more energy than normal ones, but thats nothing EV specific. if you Buy a Merc or Audi you expect better comfort and that requires more energy.
What would the mileage be if you had your 2 kids and wife in the car and the battery starts to get old. How much it cost for a new battery?
@@ellenlee1 That will be after several hundred thousand miles. The exact same question applies to a gas car engine.
Cars with gasoline engines do not loose range over night.
Impressive Kia.. 90% claimed mileage. Thanks for uploading video. Kia is honest company.
That was the longest carwow drag race ever.
Zafer Ahmad one of the best as well reminded me of that one legendary Top Gear ⚙️ episode where they drove old budget supercars until they ran out of fuel ⛽️. Nostalgia kicking in 🤩
@@pedroneves3153 right on!
@@pedroneves3153 reminds me of the episode where they were trying to run out of fuel before reaching Chernobyl
Welcome to the PUB. What you wan't to drink?
Extension cable, thanks.
And how long does it take to charge, that was not stated. Plan to spend a long time in the pub, they do not have charging stations.
haha I laughed so freaking hard,, thanks! :D
@@ohwell2790 Till about closing time, should get enough charge to get to a supercharger somewhere!
700 watt extension cable to plug my 3000w charger please
Some energy drink please,so I 'can push one' !🤣
This gave me such nostalgic top gear vibes😭
Reminded me of the old supercar episode
@@Kylirr" I had hoped to finish the evening in a different kind of hedge"
El Guapo VW Polo TDI Bluemotion VS Jaguar XJ diesel VS Subaru Legacy Boxer-D 😏
The fact that they came to Lincoln the most forgotten City in the UK
Top Gear was scripted... This is fact based..
As an I-Pace owner, I'm a bit disappointed in the fact the I-pace was the only one that was not in cruise control during this drive. The driver kept throttling up and down, which I admit is extremely enjoyable in this vehicle, but with 20k miles in the 2020 Ipace SE on the same 20's, I would have expected him to get closer to 234+ miles going those speeds in CC. Great video, though.
in eco and soft regen you get better range.
I think the star of the show was the KIa ... cheapest car, 2nd best range, highest % of claimed range.
Claimed range ...
That is precisely what I was thinking.
Because they already have made loads of electric cars in korea
Theres an island called jeju island which is perfect size for electric cars and other experiments
They also made lots of shitty electic cars
But nowadays they are really good for it’s price
And also remeber kia is owned by Hyundai so they can try lots of things
To be honest the kia has the best build quality especially compared to the tesla. Tesla have terrible build quality
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi I went from a Kia to a Tesla and I couldn't disagree more. I wouldn't touch a Kia again as long as I live; it's a hockey puck in harsh weather
Finally, someone did this! Excellent.
not rlly realistic tho...but nearly realistic...
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@@dinowbrewster3865 what
indeed, a similar test had already been done by motor1 Italia a year ago
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@@USUG0 thank you but it seems they closed in some of the car airco too but this is a bit more realistic test.
Drag race all those cars!
It's carwow, they had all those cars together, they will have drag raced them.
1st is no doubt tesla. Other cars will be fighting for 2nd place.
saving you time, tesla wins, EQC or jaguar 2nd, leaf definitely last.
Yessss!! 👍
Batteries would have to be topped up.
I think it's actually good that there are some variables between each driver, because that's how day-to-day use is.
While watching this video, i didn't realise that my phone's battery was 1 percent remaining. Fortunately, i was able to push it to the charging station.
EQC team runs out of charge - first thought is to find the nearest pub! 10/10
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Probably the most damn useful video I've ever seen about EVs. Thank you.
Well... With a sample of 1 of each car, multiple variables (different weights in each car, different drivers in each car, different variations of drafting cars/distances, different age of batteries/car, etc...) I wouldn't say it is the MOST useful video ever. Just go with the EPA results.. which are STANDARDIZED with every vehicle they test. Even if you claim that EPA estimates are "flawed", they are done the same on each and every car so no car gets an advantage anyhow even if the methodology is "wrong". I'm amazed how many of you trust this one video instance vs an organization that does this for a living for every car that is sold in the USA. Think about it. Who would you rather trust? An official rating from an organization that does this day in and day out for a living that has decades upon decades or experience, or a one-off experiment UA-camr?
@@anonypersona3189 Probably the most damn useful video I've ever seen about EVs
@@idanceforpennies281 it was also the first video i have seen about EVs
Oh really. You are easily fooled
Alastair
You hate the environment? How lovely of you
Wonderful
I didn't skipped not even a second. worth my time spent.
👍👍👍
I am impressed. This is what certain "journalists" should have done. Thank you, you made the research a lit easier for me.
It would have been better to know how quickly the recharge took and at what cost
Well said. And this confirms I won't be wasting my hard earned money on one of these EV
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne uhm. Why? The Tesla and Kia certainly have a range that is practical?
@@Cy8borg I've been on the road for work for about 5 years now and I certainly see that as a practical range for consultants. Bonus points for free parking at the airport.
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But they didn't finish it off by doing the Tesla war tug against Raptor F150
I felt like I was watching TopGear! Great stuff guys!💪
This crew is bound to elevate given this production.
U mean the old top gear
Top gear is shit now.
The new top gear is dog shit
Yip
I'd say the Niro won the challenge, as it came closest to the claimed range.
Lol. The teslo won clearly. It has the longest range of them all.
Kia cannot win anything in carwow. They will find any reason to make Kia defeated lol
@@mckevindauntless698 Like 15 miles are difference.
@@mckevindauntless698 yes yes,it is definitely the winner with the 48000£price tag compared to 33000 and only 78 percent of claimed range against 90.
And I remind you,it is the long range version.
And Tesla has 7 kw bigger battery.
Cars leaving motorway
1st Mercedes-Benz EQC 9:40
2nd Nissan Leaf 10:28
3rd Jaguar I-Pace 10:45
4th Audi E-Tron 10:56
5th Kia e-Niro 14:34
6th Tesla Model 3 17:13
"No sticks was Hurt during this movie..." 😁
It's so interesting that the 2 cheapest cars where the best
Why? Would you expect a Jag to have longer range than a Kia in a petrol model? I sure wouldn't.
if you have money, you don't care all that much for repair costs. I still don't think Mercedes rates that low... my parents have owned two C classes which lasted about 8-9 years with no issues
CarTalk HD 8-9 years? My dad’s Maruti Suzuki is still going strong after 13+ years and being driven on Indian roads. The car was priced at £4000 in 2006 with all the bells and whistles.
Jag is the best car, Mercedes is just awful in every way
@@LouisIreland no
The Kia was the best performer, not far off it's claimed range.
And in not perfect condition! That something they actually don't say, those ranges miles are always under perfect condition, just like all cars petrol or not. Lol
Impressive to be honest
still a hella ugly car
Hi There not for the money. Bet build quality and paint is sub par as well.
It sucks that the car manufacturers lie about the estimated range to gain a market advantage. Sure, under different conditions the cars could go a bit further, but nowhere near their estimated range. Respect to Kia for being honest. I drive a Tesla model 3 lr 2021 and the car can't ever, ever go anywhere near the estimated range. Under ideal conditions the model 3 lr can probably do 85% or so of the estimated range.
2010s: Smartphone Battery Drain Test
2020s: Car Battery Drain Test
2030-....:Battery drain tests for Planes
LOL
I was doing this for work back in 2015, and my boss had been doing it since the 2000s. It's not new!
nomoreheroes93 I’m about to start my electric toaster tests unless you know someone who’s been doing it since 1998 . DM me before I waste my life’s work.
@@mehmetolgunportakal6585 20030: planet drain test
Matt: The English gentleman who lets the girl push his car for him
@knowledge share 😂
Not gonna lie, I was a little "wtf" when i saw that lol
@@firekrave1 me too lmao😂
We are all equal. Women can push cars and men change diapers right?
Dam mat video Always the best
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Me: Is matt going to push that tesla by himself?
Matt: i've got staff for that😎
female staff
@@reubenlouw7967 Equals rights! Matt is definitely not going to be accused of being sexist.Lol!!
"I'd help you, but I'm sitting right now."
Yeah but put a woman to push a car. I would not do that.
@@temelon why, are you sexist?
I don't understand the dislikes. Their team literally spent 10-12 hrs driving, planning, editing, among others, compressed it down to 30 mins of FREE CONTENT, and still get 4.3k dislikes? Come on guys you can do better.
I just think its funny how they refer to distance in miles, then refer to the temperature in Celsius
That’s how we do it in the uk
I know. Km are better than miles but Fahrenheit is better than celcius. They have it backwards....
@Albin악당 you are correct. Also no way I'm not right. Neither celcius or Fahrenheit are si units, and Fahrenheit was built for people, not water.
Jared M Johnson Fahrenheit better than C? Come on man 😂😂
@@prpr9570 nice argument.
If you use Fahrenheit in Europe, where they seem to love celcius, the temperature stays basically between 0 and 100. How is that not intuitive? Outside of those ranges you basically want to stay inside.
Celcius is always going negative, 40 degrees being very hot is not intuitive, neither is -xx being truly cold, once more, I even see some weather reports using half degrees with celcius. Everyone should have just stick with Fahrenheit...
The fast charging rate available to Tesla drivers is a major functional factor if regularly driving longer distances.
The eNiro is brilliant value.
There is a cost to fast charging... It will significantly reduce your batteries life span over time. Best to avoid using fast charge exclusively.
@@arthol51 that is completely false. Super charging throttles and limits battery degradation. Two years ago sure. Today not even close. I have 35k miles on my model 3 10k+ of those are supercharging. I have a max range of 303 miles out of 310...... Teslafi also supports what I'm saying (over ten thousand users with data supporting this)
well damn, most people dont drive for 5 hours a day. Atleast not where i live!
josh62294 think about it. Whether or not the chemistry is different at varying charge rates, which it is likely to be, Fast charging stresses all components in the battery and coolant system, as well as the structure of the battery due to thermal effects. It will degrade faster. Only you fool pretends otherwise. The true question is how much faster and is it significant to the average person?
alex zannettou I do. I drive to Germany from Manchester all the time.
I'm very impressed with the Kia
The Kia wins this in my eyes.
@@McDoodle44 Yeah, they go really far with their battery and although it's not as far as the Tesla, at least it can reach 90% of its claimed range which is very good.
Drove the e Niro last month ,really impressive performance,the guy who’s car it was said there’s no exhaust to replace(obviously) and you hardly have to touch the brakes but the acceleration is addictive you’ll never keep it in tyres...😂😂😂👍genuine game changer...
I if needed to chose between these electric cars I would go for KIA
It has the most efficient powersystem and excellent regen.
25:45 Range comparison (Temp: 5C, partly with headlights on)
Mercedes EQC: 194 mi (312 km), 75% claimed range
Audi e-tron: 206 mi (332 km), 81% claimed range
Nissan leaf: 208 mi (335 km), 87% claimed range
Jaguar I-Pace: 223 mi (359 km), 76% claimed range
Kia e-Niro: 255 mi (410 km), 90% claimed range
Tesla model 3 long range version: 270 mi (435 km), 78% claimed range
p.s. Diesel cars run for around 75%, says the video
What do you mean by 75% of the video ? I drive my old A3 Sportback from 2006 and i can drive 670kms till the next refuel if i drive correctly and with adequate speed. And that is also with headlights on, AC on with a decent 18 Degrees + stereo and other accessoires i have on it.
My father with his A4 Avant from 2016 can go up to 800kms on a single fuel if he's driving eco mode.
You are the MVP
12:00 Call the local emergency number and inform them that there is a hazard on the road that is putting others at risk for an accident.
Matt has filled the Top Gear void -unlike the BBC ever could 😁
These are nothing like Top Gear was. Not comparable.
@@cryoraptora303tm2 well they don't even have a quarter of the budget or staff either, so it's no surprise
@@cryoraptora303tm2 Yep, it's much better. This guy is a legend!
@@amsterdamn4829 I'd have to disagree with that.
I would say the kia won this. 90% percent of claimed range and its one of the cheapest evs in the test.
Also it's pretty efficient, as ist only has 64kWh usable battery capacity, compared to 80kWh in the EQC or the ~73kWh of the Model 3 LR.
In terms of efficiency that would be:
* eNiro: 4 mi/kWh
* Model 3 LR: 3.7 mi/kWh
* EQC: 2.4 mi/kWh
It’s lighter/smaller car though, probably should be weight adjusted
I wonder if you in UK can actually buy it? In Poland e-niros are out of stock with a super long waiting queue while the prices are similar.
I mean, it is by far the smallest and slowest and has a budget interior and features. The Kia likely holds the title as the best budget EV, but that wasn't the point of this test.
Claimed range is mixed cycle. Evs get worse economy on freeways compared to stop start.
I’m more impressed by the Kia niro
24:41 Matt: Say no to gender roles.
a true advocator of gender equality
He is the main character!! What u expect !!!
Need more experiments like this Matt, well done
Just watch Bjørn Nyland.
Cruise control unavailable is probably because you're in Autopilot Jail.
5252085 And for those who don’t understand: the car will lock you out of autopilot if you’ve been ignoring prompts to hold the steering wheel, till you pull over and park. Then you’re out of jail ;-) and free to repeat if you want....
@@FutureSystem738 what? really? never heard that before. thats interesting
@@eltontv6002 what future said.
@@eltontv6002 What Riddle said.
Respect this video guys...carwows worked very ..for this video
I feel like the Kia should have won since it did 90% of its claimed range
I understand what you're saying but it didn't do the most range. If it was a contest of which manufacturer is the most accurate with their claimed range then yeah fair enough, Kia wins
That makes no sense at all. This isn't a "the manufacturer got the figures right rating" it's how far the car goes. What's the real world use of such a pointless metric? Plus I have no idea where they got the 348mile range from unless it is WLTP rating cz EPA gives the Tesla 310miles.
Wish the Kona was included as well
@John Small what makes you say that? It didn't have the most range. Plus you have so many metrics when buying a car. I can't imagine someone who wants an eqc luxury going for a Niro. Teslas have autopilot , constant updates etc. These cars appeal to different people. ...
@@maxxlawrence which is what he pretty much claimed it'd be at the start of the video.
But I guess he set out to make the Tesla "win" by taking out the ER version rather than the SR version, which would have died a lot earlier than the Niro.
if you look at the battery size / range, the kia did to the best at 4mi/Kwh, tesla in second place did 3.6, the audi was the worst with 2.2 mi/Kwh
So according to quality wise its Kia with 90% of claimed range
aye and it looks nicer as well.
Ur forgetting how they lost 4 % because of the overnight
@@huntille1214 most people will be charging overnight though and pulling the plug as they leave.
Alexander Wijnhamer yeh so it will be closer to the claimed range
@@huntille1214 I think that was already accounted for. In other words, the range trip odometers were probably reset to 0 at 100% right after unplugging instead of at 96% or 95% when they started the driving "experiment". Otherwise that would be a major oversight...
I'm watching this on my laptop and started the video with 60% to start by the time the video was over I had 51% left. My battery life feels like the claimed range of the Kia eNero.
Which browser do you use for youtube? AFAIK best mileage provides MS Edge. Even so I use Windows 10 UWP application (myTube) which is even better in that regard.
Martin Gorbush Microsoft Edge yes.
Interesting my Samsung tablet says slow charge if I don't use a Samsung plug lol
To be honest that's pretty poor for a laptop... unless it's like 6 years old.
H Kr Not really I got in in November and the battery life is really good tbh.
To me, that's the best video from Carwowso far, well done!
This is a really interesting video, great job people of carwow!
KIA for the win at 90% of claimed range.
I would have liked to see the Tesla standard vehicle (not long range). That would be a good comparison between it and the KIA.
Given that most cars dropped 5% charge overnight, the KIA would have possibly been in the low 90's...an even better result. Kudos to KIA for keeping their range numbers real world 👍
I don't care who claimed what.. Tesla went the furthest, that is the winner for me.
@@dissmr Are you American?
@@Estanceviri
No.. why.? I'm I suppose to not speak the truth because Tesla is made in USA?
Thank you so much for you gentlemen's entire effort on doing this test for us. It is really helpful & meaningful. Again, Thank you very much.....A message from a Hong Konger.
This experiment just raises the bar high for other "Car Review" youtube channels.
No it doesn't. Electric cars are meant for stop and go. Not 100 % highway driving. This test is stupid
@@mikemastroianni6393 Nonsense. The main thing that puts people off buying electric cars is 'highway' driving, so it's the perfect test.
@@robwalker4653 I disagree. Its cost that's puts people off and not understanding how distance works in an electric vehicle. If an electric car was $20 000 and only had 200 range no one would buy it. Make an electric car that does 400 miles for the same price and everyone would be all over it no matter how efficient it was
gg
I could never do a test like this. I would be flooring it the whole time just to feel that pull
Certainly in the Model 3 and I-Pace!
Same
You'll grow up one day all good :)
Petrolhead Gaming why would you want to hear anything?
Petrolhead Gaming i’ve driven several v6 and tried tesla a couple of years ago. I much prefer the silent power. 🤷♂️
Pub: What can I get you?
Driver: Juice...
Pub: Orange juice?
Driver: No, electric juice.
Whats in that then?
Electrolytes of course!!!
I’m sure we have an outlet/ socket for you here
What is funny in that then
Not Senna GTS just get a couple plug extenders
Absolutely brilliant Matt and the team. I've a Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid which I've owned for 3 years and absolutely love driving it. I've driven the Model 3 Tesla, Kia Niro, ID3, And Ioniq 5 EV's and whist I like Tesla as a brand and for its long range. Kia and Hyundai do it for me. Especially the Ioniq 5 with is good range. I'd love to see a 'real world range' test on that one. Keep up the good work buddy.
I was watching this on my laptop and my laptop said "Battery critically low, charge now" right as the Tesla was starting to shut down. I thought I was part of the experiment 🤣
it feels good to feel important aint it mate?
I was watching this while my phone on charge🤣🤣
How far was your range?
So your laptop has a better range than the Tesla. 😂
This the testing we've been waiting for
nearly realistic..
This is the best real world test I've seen to date. I would like to see this type of test repeated at different climate conditions, winter where the heat/defrost are working harder. Likewise, extreme heat as in Arizona where the AC is working hard.
I think even though the AC will drain the battery , the battery should be happier at a warmer climate maybe it will balance it out. Not sure about Arizona extremes tho... Also Dubai in the summer is a another extreme reaching temperatures 43 °C (109 °F) I havent really seen a video in that climate, worth noting Patrol/Gas prices in the UK are generally double the price you guys get in the US and in the Middle east its really cheap abt a quater of the US prices. I wonder what the charging cost are like over an year in different regions. We should see what Ford and Chevy comes up with in the future should be more competible with KIA in terms of prices .
It would be interesting to see how the Lucid compares. Lucid Motors claims are pretty impressive!
I forgot about that. I was thinking "uh oh, they all underperformed, am I in trouble with my Model 3 SR+?" But I forgot about the temperature. And where I'm at it rarely goes below 60 F (120+ during the summers), so maybe I'm okay afterall.
I would like to see this test done with the newest EVs like the Rivian, Ioniq 5 and ID3.
The Tesla will probably win again because it's the most efficient car out of the bunch and it was built with really hot climates in mind, not like the kia which was build with cold weather in mind.
lower the result by 30% because no one will drive only on highway with best speed possible to preserve the battery. And battery is new. If you use the car for one year it will go down even more. All batteries lose strength over time. When electric cars reach about 800km range then they will be okay to buy. For now it's not that good. So they need about 2.5x better batteries.
And some true 7 seaters for larger families, my parents considered an electric car, but if you wanna seat seven, there’s nothing
@@kalle5548 What about the Tesla model X?
@@nathanchristiansen1049 Well it’s more of a 5 + 2 but not to bad, problem is that it would cost 140 000$ for the base price (1 250 000 sek), about dubbel what my parents were ready to pay, and the car wouldn’t be delivered for quite a while, sadly the tech isn’t there yet
But EVs give more mileage in city as comparison to highways. I think so...
So a girl pushed Mat's car while he was inside. Now THAT's gender equality :)
I get what you're saying but someone has to be in the car to push it.
In Soviet Russia the car pushes you
@@samuel.fraser Mat can push, the girl can drive that 20 meters to the charging station...
Feminist would be proud.
😂😂💗
Matt testing these cars while I'm driving a 2000 Toyota Corolla. Fml
At least you can be driving that for another 20 or 50 years. Good choice
Idc
Atleast that one can actually be driven without needing an hour of charge every 200 miles :P
2000 model astra here
I drive a 96 clio, it's more like a toy car with a little lego engine
Judging from the stats, KIA is the only manufacturer that's least likely to lie to its consumers lol 🤔😂
The Tesla had a female passenger that weight around 120lbs that's almost 187 watts hrs being lost in transit.
Then there are headlights that takes energy
Honesty is the best policy.
@@mesoanto1031 I think there was a third passenger, the camera man Note that in the last few meters, he says, "Come on, GUYS, you can do it." In the US mileage figures are based on a 300 payload With camera equipment, and maybe oovernight bags for three, they may well have exceede 450 pounds.
@Xaris Xeros yes, also it might not be 100% what Kia claimed because as he said in the beginning temperature matters and well it is quite cold in the uk. So kia is probably the most accurate with statements including temperature variation
@@Its_Danny- It miight havee a smaller volume of cabin air to heat.
the i-pace to have best range needs to be in eco mode and with soft regeration set. Then I can do 22kw/100 km or about 4mil/kWh
24:35 close your eyes, a child was born!
Nice one. 🤣
dead :D
Dark awokawok
I feel the Niro won for coming closest to it's claimed mileage.
It actually beat its EPA range by 7%
@George Costarica very funny
They got the rated range wrong for the Model 3. They used the rated range for the Model S Performance instead of the Model 3 Long Range AWD. The rated range for this car they used in the video is actually 310 miles not 348 so at the end it actually tied for second best at 87%
@George Costarica Tesla is the most valuable car manufacturer in the world so you prob shouldn't quit your day job for a career in company forcasting
24:25 😏😏
Matt letting the Woman push 😂😂
They're equal opportunists and not sexist at CarWow. 😋
@@enyotheios2613 haha
Little Light he wanted to hear her panting 😈
@@Kingdonnerkebab bruh 😂😂
I was watching this on our tv, my parents asked me if I was watching an adult film because of the girl panting🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I"ve had a long term loan EQC for the last 2 months and been loving the comfort, but range felt rubbish... This certainly confirmed it!
Carwow, but a classic top gear episode. I like 😊
Crazyalex360 better than new top gear
Yes, without the childish commentary.
That was awesome, thanks for the original content!
wow..
Not wow car wow
its *O R I G I N A L. C O N T E N T*
Youarecars$090000000000000
I have the Kia Niro I love it. I always get 300 miles easily daily. I’m a full time taxi driver and this car is perfect for it. In Hawaii don’t need to worry about cold issue. I also did upgrade the audio system with a sub and it don’t effect the range at all.
Nice. I have an hev niro and i get like 800km(500miles) on a full tank on city driving and and 650km on highway (depending on ny driving
That "VEHICLE SHUTTING DOWN - PULL OVER SAFELY" message gave me chills
Mat:"I'm not going to risk it"
Others: We drove our cars until it died.
I want a KIA ! That thing is damn impressive.
I want an Audi
Hyundai kona, has the same battery size,engine and range, it's smaller and maybe cheaper :)
Tom Lennart Bjervamoen it sure has but I love the looks of the Kia more than the Hyundai.
i know, if u dont care about autonomus drive and the techy features is definitely the way to go
doogieAfro yes!
That Kia’s impressive and definitely the one that delivers more bang for your buck
David Gonzalez yeah and 0-100 in 7.5 secs 🤣
Dylan Ansems well yea but it isn’t exactly built as a performance vehicle. Very few people who want performance go for electric vehicles. If someone wants EV performance, definitely go for the Tesla. However people that buy Kia’s are most of the time just looking for cheap and efficient commuter cars.
Dylan Ansems 0-100 is a term people only care about in drag race videos
@@takarlor12 Or when merging on a motorway/autobahn, or overtaking. Two real world scenarios that happen often.
@@David_Gonzalez_ Its more expensive than the model 3, especially after dealer markup. No over the air updates, lackluster automated driving features that are unlikely to improve over time, slow, no large screen to play games on or watch movies on while waiting for the car to charge, no supercharger network (electrify america isn't nearly as good), no sentry mode to catch vandals, no frunk for extra storage. There's nothing exciting about it. I have a family and yet I still want a little excitement. This doesn't have it. Its such a boring electric car. If it was significantly cheaper than a Tesla it might be a harder choice.
Great informative video for anyone considering switching to electric vehicles. But it would be interesting to know how much it cost and how long it takes to recharge them back to full capacity
I know this comment is old, but I'd like to point out the reason they likely don't do that. This is likely to do with the fact that electricity rates can vary so widely even from one block to another, because of different charge rates, and also different ways to charge. You can however find many calculators online that will do the math for you if you'd really like to know.
So easily said kia was the most honest out of the others in claimed range?????
also all the car were driven in the same routes, so they would have consumed the same amount of energy (at least i think?)
It's epa range. (at least for tesla). There is no dishonesty there, they are not the ones measuring the final range. 10-15% difference is totally acceptable, as there is 2 things as *elevation* and your *driving style*. Heck, you can do *unlimited miles* going downhill.
@@alimertc i dont understand -_-
@@ConfusedBaconBoi If you go uphill you consume more energy. Driving style and road conditions may effect +-10%. No brands are honest or dishonest, as their ranges are all measured by epa.
@@alimertc I'm pretty sure they also mention that range as "under test conditions".
@@alimertc The EPA doesn't measure range nor do they test vehicles, Tesla self-reports it to the EPA and they optimize for the driving cycle. Other manufacturers have sometimes done this as well and it has resulted in scandals like the Japanese 50 PSI tires and such.
Since carwow didn't include some statistics that would've interested me so I calculated them. I share them for everyone that is interested:
Car /// Battery capacity (kWh) /// Range (mi) /// Miles/kWh /// Weight (kg) /// Weight adjustment (Miles/kWh * kg; higher is better)
Kia eNiro /// 64 /// 255 /// 3,98 /// 1866 /// 7434,84
Tesla Model 3 /// 75 /// 270 /// 3,60 /// 1847 /// 6649,2
Mercedes EQC /// 80 /// 194 /// 2,42 /// 2495 /// 6050,37
Audi etron /// 95 /// 206 /// 2,16 /// 2565 /// 5562
Nissan Leaf /// 62 /// 208 /// 3,35 /// 1640 /// 5501,93
Jaguar i-Pace /// 90 /// 223 /// 2,47 /// 2208 /// 5470,93
To account for different car types (SUV/Limousine) I tried to adjust their weight to learn something about the efficiency (last column). I know this isn't a very meaningful metric, but gives an impression.
Conclusion: eNiro kicks ass!
Thx 4 the data
Only a person who has never driven a Tesla would make that claim.
These are the netto capacity of the battery of the car, which should be take then in my opinion.
Kia eNiro /// 64 /// 255 /// 3,98 /// 1866 /// 7434,84
Tesla Model 3 /// 72,5 /// 270 /// 3,60 /// 1847 /// 6649,2
Mercedes EQC /// 80 /// 194 /// 2,42 /// 2495 /// 6050,37
Audi etron /// 83,4 /// 206 /// 2,16 /// 2565 /// 5562
Nissan Leaf /// 56 /// 208 /// 3,35 /// 1640 /// 5501,93
Jaguar i-Pace /// 84,6 /// 223 /// 2,47 /// 2208 /// 5470,93
Yes eNiro is the best and better value
It's not only efficiency. At least not only drivetrain efficiency. Tires can have impact on range. Still Kia drivetrain is exceptional, though. The car has much more drag, since it is Crossover. It will be even more efficient if it's lower like Ioniq and with better drag coefficient.
Probs to the Kia E-nero, it was doing really great
I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonota hybrid and get over 600 miles per tank. The battery efficiency has deteriorated over the years because it got about 650 miles per tank when it was new. The battery efficiency does drop after a few years and that does affect the resale value.
So the Kia is the most honest of the car companies. That's acctually what I was actually looking for. Kia it is.
@9600GTMAN But what's the durability of a Kia? And resale value? Those things matter.
@9600GTMAN Why are you so angry? Tesla surely is not shitty. It is the one which started the Electric vehicle revolution. Now everyone is following them which is a good thing. Now there is electric, Hydrogen and many other alternatives coming up. Tesla is better built, better quality, has advanced technology and software.
9600GTMAN try to find a used model 3. they hold value better than any new ford, chevy, toyota etc
It's not a matter of honesty - it's a matter of guessing how most people will use their cars. So it's a matter of gathering data. They base the ranges on a set of lab tests (WLTP) that are never 100% accurate. Want more range? Slow down. That's the biggest thing really.
@@esaedvik Let them prove to me they haven't lied. Because it sure looks to me as if they have.