Put aside the "Civ killer" rhetoric. This game is genuinely innovating in the 4X genre in some pretty cool ways, and I'm all for it! Also, I got to start another cult, so that's pretty sweet. Remember, you can learn more here! -> millennia.paradoxinteractive.com/pravus
I like that the dev put more time into mechanics and playability then graphics. Giving us more choices and different paths to follow will make the game more enjoyable.
@@wolfcommando8467 I don't either honestly, just guessing what they are thinking. I do think that there could be some polishing (mostly UI screens) but not bad overall.
I like that idea. What I liked about human kind is that you could change your society as it went through time. What I didn't like is that you could feasibly pick the same powerful civs over and over for every game, with several "bad" cultures that you wouldn't pick if your life depended on it. I think it would be FAR more interesting if the culture you picked depended upon What you built, what natural resources you have, and what culture/war/technological points you have. So, a civ with a lot of marble in its cities would be able to pick the Greek culture, and one with access to stone, sand, and has river transport technology has access to Egyptian culture. Have a strong military and lots of military tech? Spartan culture. Granted, it works a lot better during the ancient eras, but I think it can be an interesting twist. I mean, add some religion to that, and we can have something where if something like Catholicism spreads to your civ, it block certain bonuses in favor of its own. Like if there's a boost to science from catholisism, it overwrites a bonus to culture from greek religion. But, since its a dominant religion now, you get negatives as well, such as a decrease in economy, since no one works on sunday.
they should move away from real world cultures totally imo. Just let us evolve from stoneman organically by choosing techs and cultures etc depending on our surrounding territory. Would make for the most realistic and immersive civ like game.@@SImrobert2001
Plus, it feels like every advancement in Era opens up a whole new mechanic to leverage your empire building, which is something Civ 5/6 does not have. I now have _unreasonable_ expectations of this game's future
Like others have said, please continue this playthrough. I'm awaiting the release and watching videos like yours is both entertaining as well as good preparation for the mechanics of the game. Never heard of you before, but I stumbled upon you now and really enjoyed this video.
I really like the way this game aproaches the 4X genre, it makes great twists in the formula and plays very well, while being mostly bug-free. The only thing holding it back is how it looks and the public perception around it, its not very pretty, and when the innevitable CIV comparisons pop up, it tends to lose. A shame, I really hope this game does well and the devs can keep working on it, has a lot of promise and is already pretty good.
Dude. Thank you for this video. Finally a streamer that doesn't waffle forever between turns. You where informative without sending me to sleep! Haha Gonna buy on day 1 of release!!!
I played the heck out of the demo in the steam nextfest, it was a lot of fun. Seeing the new ages only makes me look forward to this game more. The Raiders are some of the most OP things I have ever seen however, anybody picking it gets a free win because it creates an infinite self-sustaining loop of war exp. The more you fight the more exp you get, and the more exp you get the more soldiers you get basically for free that eventually outclass everything.
Yes, Raiders is completely OP and allows you to walk into an easy military victory. Giving you tons of Raiders and giving them 0 upkeep cost just breaks the game.
The devs already nerfed raiders since the demo. Will have to see if it’s more balanced or more broken. Personally I prefer warriors which also makes infinite Spartans from war cop. I think it takes more war costs per unit than raiders, but I never tried raiders during the demo. I had a real fun war against my neighbor who was a raider while I was warriors, I won just before the end of the demo.
Thank you so much for this video Pravus! i actually bought the game, then saw the steam discussion page, and started having doubts, but after watching you, im so excited for this game! You have a lovely way to explain things, and i think the video is very well edited! had to subscribe! TY!
I was semi interested throughout the video but when I saw what an amazing design they made for Age of heroes my jaw dropped, now I'm super excited for the game. Really clever.
Didnt think much of this when i first found it because the aesthetics are so similar to Civ but your video did an amazing job of pointing out this game's strengths and differences, which easily makes it worth playing. Great job, fun video.
I weirdly like the graphics. It has a bit of an Old World graphics feel while being different enough from the other Civ-like games to make it stand out.
this game is very enjoyable and simple but yet complex at the same time...theyve done a good job in the demo and have confidence the rest will be really good
I’m starting to like this game, even though the upgrades and new tech buildings are far too wide in different Ages will confuse some players. I can’t wait to see the Age of Enlightenment and so forth!
Gameplay over Graphics! Also remember that Civ 6's graphics are not the greatest tbh. Humankind and Age of Wonders 4 and Old World do look pretty decent though. E: Kinda funny that Pravus unlocked 'Age of Exploration' by building a bunch of docks in a tiny inland sea.
Me too, don’t understand the complaints. But I’ve never cared much for graphics. If game has beautiful graphics but a boring gameplay loop I won’t play it for long. The reverse however I’ll play for many hours. Plus I don’t think they even look bad, just not amazing.
@@bvav9678 Ill put money down nobody complaining about the graphics started with Civ 1 or Civ 2 or even 3. Dumb kids being dumb kids. IMO Civ 6 looks like crap, bright cartoony and plastic. This doesn't look great, but it's style beats Civ 6 and Gameplay > Graphics.
Man this game really does do alot for me. the visuals are actually rather good in my eyes. but you getting "Age of heroes" just the whole changeing how the world evolves and transforms. i can imagine you just going down the "Age of blood" as a raider and brutal warmonger and just decending the world into an arnarchic spiral of barbarism
I tried the demo and found it ok. This video has convinced me to buy it for the further progession cause now I'm impressed. So, engagement for youtube, sales for paradox!
I haven't looked at this game at all since I played the demo back when it first came out, its interesting how things changed. Cause I don't recall being able to research techs from prior ages after you move on.
I'll be honest - it looks nice enough for me. My issue for games is when they just have static images that move (or maybe get mirrored so they can face two directions). Could it look better? Absolutely. But the ideas present are great.
The best part and why I am exicted to play this game is that i can love both it and civ. Since what i love about civ is how it gives nations their own cool niches and skillsets where this game basically only has them as a com player thing really
I'm mixed so far. On the one hand the new mechanics seem quite neat. On the other though, much like you've been saying about trying to get an age of heroes. From what I've played thus far the RNG (including AI progression) takes away a lot of agency. Which I've never been a fan of in games. I suspect that this game will be a tough cookie to master.
I was playing Civ since the original one, so graphics will not scare me away :) And the more I see of the gameplay, the more hopeful I become that Millennia might be the true heir to the great Civ IV! Finally a decent challenger arises!
I played one game during the demonstration, and while I had no idea what was happening (overexageration, I was exploring game systems) the AI launched everyone into an age of heroes. lol
Played the demo. Highly addictive. 7,000 hours on Civ VI. This game is faster moving. I would say at least twice as fast. Keeps you on your toes. Interested to see later ages.
Hey pravus here is an idea for a fallout owb campaign. You could call it the Great brotherhood of Steel Campaign. So you start as lost hills and as you make contact with other brotherhoods (and they join you or whatever) you can switch over to that nation and play as them as if you are giving out orders from you bunker. This way you can visit old and new factions while still essentially playing as lost hills. So you don’t get bored with the slow grind of lost hills
Just a tip to avoid the slow grind of lost hills is to send volunteers to the other chapters whenever they are at war. Doing this gives you something else to focus on other then focuses and building and keeps them alive which gives you buffs
That is why I am suggest not just playing lost hills but using the switch command to take full control of that nation you reach out to@@williamheslop5756
Daddy pravus (definitely not gay) you didn't go back to the old ages to grab the techs to help you in the later ages. There are some bypassables though like defences.
From other gameplay I've seen, cities get really big (I think I heard being able to work 6 tiles out, but don't quote me on that) so settling cities too close is definitely something to avoid.
This is one of the better games i've seen lately. Went to play when it had a free weekend and played like 10 full games in a row :D Got to Age Of Heroes on second run, you just need to invest in more scouts early in game and maybe some luck, but early scouts are great way to gather exploration points and grab those "tribal villages" around the map so you are effectively weakening your opponents that way. The free weekend demo was over on the turn 50 so for any good testing i needed to rush everything :D - so got to hero age in mid to late 30's . Btw - you know you can research tech you didn't take earlier ? - i think you could be much better with some stuff like Knowledge if you did research those buildings. P.S. - you can do some fun stuff with pioneers and culture events, put an outpost adjacent to your city then when you get an culture event you can "Absorb Outpost" - you immediately get a level 2 town on that spot - so, if you did "the math" correctly and you placed center of outpost in-between a few special resources you can get very good wealth generation from that and then even more for town specialization.
I played games with Ascii graphics. I don't think many GSG players are part of the graphic snob crowd. Cities with "countryside"-slots and production chains does remind me a bit of Ymir... just with less city-building.
You keep saying to treat it like an indie title, but I don't think I can. This is Paradox. HoI4, Stellaris, EU4, CK3, all very big hits in their own right. This game feels a bit unpolished from a company that has the means to do better.
A game is either quality or it isn't. There is no such thing of treating a game like an "indie", "AAA", like it came out in the 90's, like it can out today. It seems like an interesting game regardless of who makes it or when it was made.
@@iliketea9122it’s objectively not an Indie title, since it has a publisher (paradox). Though it does have a similar dev style and size as a lot of indie developers
@@williamheslop5756all indie means is in development, which the studio is in development and so is the game. Meaning it is indie. Paradox is not indie but they are just the publisher
Indie game? It doesn't have so much visual bling, but overall it looked great. Will definitely buy it And honestly if you like the old style games, the graphics are gorgeous also. Played a lot of civ 3, age of mythology, rise of nations etc back in the day and this does bring a bit of nostalgia
I'm trying to understand why you'd build 2 cities so close together instead of expanding the first city. What are the pros and cons vs each? Basically growing wide vs growing tall I guess. Because at the half way point you had cotton in one city, is it usable in the capital for converting to other stuff?
I like this, I have never cared much about graphics (I spend 98% of my game time playing a MUD, telnet based text only game), I miss the old Civ tho, same for Railroad Tycoon - that one is borderline unplayable now, it's a game that works best with cells rather than "free drawing" with limited tools, everything ends up like a soup.
Moar. Game look very intresting, and its crying shame graphics hold it down ;/ I think I'll buy it just to encourage the devs even though I'm not sure if I'll play it a lot.
This definitely looks promising as a sort of... anti-civ. Civ has become far too ingrown with its super specific ruler and nation gameplay styles, whereas Humankind went... really weird with its "Japan is now known as the Netherlands" approach to a nation identity. Having a strong fantasy and "alternate earth" feel definitely works.
Do the systems feel fleshed out or incomplete? I can't in good conscience buy another Paradox game and get sucked into and endless loop of updates and necessary DLC to complete the game. Jury is out for me.
Honest question: WHY would we treat it as an indie game from a smaller developer? If I understand correctly, this is made by Paradox and they arent exactly tiny hat. As for the game...seems ok? It doesnt seem bad and in fact a damn sight better than other recent hex/tile based 4x games. Not sure what the DRAW is. For example, I cant differentiate the faction playstyles, though more familiarity might alleviate that. Probably gonna stick with modded Civ 5 😅
It's only **published** by paradox, not made by them. The studio making it only has like 20-ish employees. So we'd treat it as an indie game by a small developer because that's exactly what it is
@@iliketea9122 That sounds like a smokescreen. It still has a large publisher behind it, with lots of experience in this field, and funds for it. Also of concern, I believe Paradox has applied their "eternal dlc chain" practices to games they only "published" as well.
Put aside the "Civ killer" rhetoric. This game is genuinely innovating in the 4X genre in some pretty cool ways, and I'm all for it! Also, I got to start another cult, so that's pretty sweet.
Remember, you can learn more here! -> millennia.paradoxinteractive.com/pravus
Love this guy
Welcome back champ. Hope you and the baby are better now❤
I mean, Humankind tried the same, no? and look where that ended in.
reminds me of civ 4 nice
If you right click a battle, the battlescreen will not open, and you autoresolve the battle.
I like that the dev put more time into mechanics and playability then graphics. Giving us more choices and different paths to follow will make the game more enjoyable.
Honestly I f-ing love the old-RTS graphics of the game
I'm going to be honest, I don't understand what people mean when they this game's graphics are bad.
@@wolfcommando8467 Because people are comparing them to big budget games like Civ. In general they aren't bad though.
@@jagsixteen No I entirely understand that, I just don’t see how any of the Civ games have better map graphics than Millenia.
@@wolfcommando8467 I don't either honestly, just guessing what they are thinking. I do think that there could be some polishing (mostly UI screens) but not bad overall.
bro, im tierd of civ 6, and this was so much fun to watch
Oh look it's Civ 7.
I think the 1st Studio to combine humankind's culture system with this games age system will make the next classic.
I like that idea. What I liked about human kind is that you could change your society as it went through time. What I didn't like is that you could feasibly pick the same powerful civs over and over for every game, with several "bad" cultures that you wouldn't pick if your life depended on it. I think it would be FAR more interesting if the culture you picked depended upon What you built, what natural resources you have, and what culture/war/technological points you have. So, a civ with a lot of marble in its cities would be able to pick the Greek culture, and one with access to stone, sand, and has river transport technology has access to Egyptian culture. Have a strong military and lots of military tech? Spartan culture. Granted, it works a lot better during the ancient eras, but I think it can be an interesting twist.
I mean, add some religion to that, and we can have something where if something like Catholicism spreads to your civ, it block certain bonuses in favor of its own. Like if there's a boost to science from catholisism, it overwrites a bonus to culture from greek religion. But, since its a dominant religion now, you get negatives as well, such as a decrease in economy, since no one works on sunday.
they should move away from real world cultures totally imo. Just let us evolve from stoneman organically by choosing techs and cultures etc depending on our surrounding territory. Would make for the most realistic and immersive civ like game.@@SImrobert2001
Humankind was fun but suffered massively from bloat in the late game imo. Numbers just all became ridiculous
I honestly love the sheer amount to keep track of and the different paths you can take it seems like an awesome new system in the genre!
Plus, it feels like every advancement in Era opens up a whole new mechanic to leverage your empire building, which is something Civ 5/6 does not have.
I now have _unreasonable_ expectations of this game's future
Like others have said, please continue this playthrough. I'm awaiting the release and watching videos like yours is both entertaining as well as good preparation for the mechanics of the game. Never heard of you before, but I stumbled upon you now and really enjoyed this video.
12:25 If you CAN go into a crisis age, you are FORCED to go into a crisis age
I really like the way this game aproaches the 4X genre, it makes great twists in the formula and plays very well, while being mostly bug-free.
The only thing holding it back is how it looks and the public perception around it, its not very pretty, and when the innevitable CIV comparisons pop up, it tends to lose.
A shame, I really hope this game does well and the devs can keep working on it, has a lot of promise and is already pretty good.
Continue this series, please?
Judging by reception to game's release, I dont think so. Many on steam were calling out UA-camrs for not calling out bad design.
I tried the demo for the game and immediately fell in love with it and I'm also glad to see Pravus play it!
needs an "age of myth" where mythological creatures spawn, dragons, hydra, minotaurs, lol would be so cool
I think that those elements (or similar) are present in the "age of heroes"
Probably DLC down the line
It would be nice if the heroes had more to do. Maybe if the quests keep spawning over time instead of just dissappearing.
would be the best!@@ResandOuies
A optional fantasy mode would be interesting. Where mythical monsters are found throughout the game.
I'm eagerly awaiting release and some deeper dive is a god-sent for me. Thank you so much for the video and to Paradox for sponsoring!
Dude. Thank you for this video. Finally a streamer that doesn't waffle forever between turns. You where informative without sending me to sleep! Haha
Gonna buy on day 1 of release!!!
I played the heck out of the demo in the steam nextfest, it was a lot of fun.
Seeing the new ages only makes me look forward to this game more.
The Raiders are some of the most OP things I have ever seen however, anybody picking it gets a free win because it creates an infinite self-sustaining loop of war exp.
The more you fight the more exp you get, and the more exp you get the more soldiers you get basically for free that eventually outclass everything.
Yes, Raiders is completely OP and allows you to walk into an easy military victory. Giving you tons of Raiders and giving them 0 upkeep cost just breaks the game.
The devs already nerfed raiders since the demo. Will have to see if it’s more balanced or more broken. Personally I prefer warriors which also makes infinite Spartans from war cop. I think it takes more war costs per unit than raiders, but I never tried raiders during the demo. I had a real fun war against my neighbor who was a raider while I was warriors, I won just before the end of the demo.
*war xp
Thank you so much for this video Pravus! i actually bought the game, then saw the steam discussion page, and started having doubts, but after watching you, im so excited for this game! You have a lovely way to explain things, and i think the video is very well edited! had to subscribe! TY!
I was semi interested throughout the video but when I saw what an amazing design they made for Age of heroes my jaw dropped, now I'm super excited for the game. Really clever.
This looks like an interesting game! The emerging mechanics and the new battle screen really caught my eye.
Didnt think much of this when i first found it because the aesthetics are so similar to Civ but your video did an amazing job of pointing out this game's strengths and differences, which easily makes it worth playing. Great job, fun video.
I weirdly like the graphics. It has a bit of an Old World graphics feel while being different enough from the other Civ-like games to make it stand out.
Get ready for all the dlcs
bring it on! age of myth!
60$ for this and 60$ for that oooh and this dlc is 60$ too. Cant wait.
@@razzaus1570 it's 40€ on steam atm
Paradox is (usually) pretty good about DLCs, at least from a Stallaris perspective.@@razzaus1570
this game seems to be pretty feature complete already, so dlc's wouldnt be that bad
Edit: locking everything nuclear behind a dlc is really scummy
Considering that even in Civ I play with simple graphics, the game is very attractive since it has fun systems!
This deserves a series dear lad!
this game is very enjoyable and simple but yet complex at the same time...theyve done a good job in the demo and have confidence the rest will be really good
I dig the longer episode! Praise pravus!!
I’m starting to like this game, even though the upgrades and new tech buildings are far too wide in different Ages will confuse some players. I can’t wait to see the Age of Enlightenment and so forth!
Gameplay over Graphics! Also remember that Civ 6's graphics are not the greatest tbh. Humankind and Age of Wonders 4 and Old World do look pretty decent though.
E: Kinda funny that Pravus unlocked 'Age of Exploration' by building a bunch of docks in a tiny inland sea.
I noticed that also about the inland sea lol i guess it looked like a bay or maybe he did it for all the fish near byzantium
But.... but.... but I like the graphics.
Me too, don’t understand the complaints. But I’ve never cared much for graphics. If game has beautiful graphics but a boring gameplay loop I won’t play it for long. The reverse however I’ll play for many hours. Plus I don’t think they even look bad, just not amazing.
@@bvav9678 Ill put money down nobody complaining about the graphics started with Civ 1 or Civ 2 or even 3. Dumb kids being dumb kids. IMO Civ 6 looks like crap, bright cartoony and plastic. This doesn't look great, but it's style beats Civ 6 and Gameplay > Graphics.
This game looks awesome, if they add more stuff to it I can only imagine how awesome it'd get.
I think I speak for everyone here, we want more of this.
I am starting to believe that Pravus is secretly working for Paradox Interactive.
Man this game really does do alot for me. the visuals are actually rather good in my eyes. but you getting "Age of heroes" just the whole changeing how the world evolves and transforms. i can imagine you just going down the "Age of blood" as a raider and brutal warmonger and just decending the world into an arnarchic spiral of barbarism
I tried the demo and found it ok. This video has convinced me to buy it for the further progession cause now I'm impressed.
So, engagement for youtube, sales for paradox!
And premium gives season pass and humankind's pre Starr exploration, in case that interests people.
That nonchalant "Go off my neighbors" 😆😆😆. Lord Pravus out for blood today
Welcome back champ. Hope you and the baby are better now❤
I haven't looked at this game at all since I played the demo back when it first came out, its interesting how things changed. Cause I don't recall being able to research techs from prior ages after you move on.
When I see the maracas I go Chic Chicibul, Chic Chicibul. -Cuban Pete.
18:40 I like they look of the game way more than what we have in the latest Civ.
I'll be honest - it looks nice enough for me. My issue for games is when they just have static images that move (or maybe get mirrored so they can face two directions). Could it look better? Absolutely. But the ideas present are great.
The best part and why I am exicted to play this game is that i can love both it and civ. Since what i love about civ is how it gives nations their own cool niches and skillsets where this game basically only has them as a com player thing really
This game looks… like a very good alt-Civ game!
I'm mixed so far. On the one hand the new mechanics seem quite neat.
On the other though, much like you've been saying about trying to get an age of heroes.
From what I've played thus far the RNG (including AI progression) takes away a lot of agency.
Which I've never been a fan of in games.
I suspect that this game will be a tough cookie to master.
very interesting spin on the genre
Thank you so very much for sharing your gameplay.
honestly this looks like the mobile game ads i get when i watch any vids
Maybe its because im older, but the graphics are nostalgic for civ 2 and the like. Genre defining greatness of my youth.
I was playing Civ since the original one, so graphics will not scare me away :) And the more I see of the gameplay, the more hopeful I become that Millennia might be the true heir to the great Civ IV! Finally a decent challenger arises!
I played one game during the demonstration, and while I had no idea what was happening (overexageration, I was exploring game systems) the AI launched everyone into an age of heroes. lol
4k fan here. Actually i don't like this game that much but the way you explaining stuff about to game was so good. Thank you sir, you gotta new sub.
The mod Caveman2cosmos for Civilization IV also has chains of production
Whoever designed and signed off that UI for this game should consider changing professions as it’s disrespectful to the rest of the work.
Amen
Game looks great. I hope you turn this into a playthrough. also, screw the graphics, the game play looks great
Played the demo. Highly addictive. 7,000 hours on Civ VI. This game is faster moving. I would say at least twice as fast. Keeps you on your toes. Interested to see later ages.
Do you think a Mega campain could happen? Your layed back style would be a joy to see a country through the ages...
Why do all "Civ like" games should look as if it's Civ 6?
I did try the demo and I do love the mechanics, but man... that UI is an assault to the eyes.
Hey pravus here is an idea for a fallout owb campaign. You could call it the Great brotherhood of Steel Campaign. So you start as lost hills and as you make contact with other brotherhoods (and they join you or whatever) you can switch over to that nation and play as them as if you are giving out orders from you bunker. This way you can visit old and new factions while still essentially playing as lost hills. So you don’t get bored with the slow grind of lost hills
Just a tip to avoid the slow grind of lost hills is to send volunteers to the other chapters whenever they are at war. Doing this gives you something else to focus on other then focuses and building and keeps them alive which gives you buffs
That is why I am suggest not just playing lost hills but using the switch command to take full control of that nation you reach out to@@williamheslop5756
My favorite 4x game is civ 4 so I think this looks awesome graphically
probably have to wait 6 months before be able to play like tradition paradox game
I always name my founded religions in Civ 5 and Humankind "alcoholism". Then you get shit like a city that is "Holy seat for alcoholism" XD XD XD
Have you seen Unciv? It's a mobile game that is basically just Civ 5, and has a ton of mods to turn it into Civ 6, Beyond Earth, etc.
I've played that!!
mobile ew
Uniciv hmm I've got to travel coming up ill look into it
Daddy pravus (definitely not gay) you didn't go back to the old ages to grab the techs to help you in the later ages. There are some bypassables though like defences.
This looks like a mobile game made by the people at Raid Shadow Legends
From other gameplay I've seen, cities get really big (I think I heard being able to work 6 tiles out, but don't quote me on that) so settling cities too close is definitely something to avoid.
Sadly its a Paradox game, so the full game is gonna total to 200$+ once all the DLC is out.
I was really hoping this didn't use real-world civilization like Civ and went the Stellaris route, where we can play our own custom nations.
This is one of the better games i've seen lately. Went to play when it had a free weekend and played like 10 full games in a row :D
Got to Age Of Heroes on second run, you just need to invest in more scouts early in game and maybe some luck, but early scouts are great way to gather exploration points and grab those "tribal villages" around the map so you are effectively weakening your opponents that way.
The free weekend demo was over on the turn 50 so for any good testing i needed to rush everything :D - so got to hero age in mid to late 30's .
Btw - you know you can research tech you didn't take earlier ? - i think you could be much better with some stuff like Knowledge if you did research those buildings.
P.S. - you can do some fun stuff with pioneers and culture events, put an outpost adjacent to your city then when you get an culture event you can "Absorb Outpost" - you immediately get a level 2 town on that spot - so, if you did "the math" correctly and you placed center of outpost in-between a few special resources you can get very good wealth generation from that and then even more for town specialization.
If they had put as much funding into the game as they did for buying all of these UA-cam reviews then maybe we would have had day one MP
looks like civ but with extra features and hopefully less stupid ai
I played games with Ascii graphics. I don't think many GSG players are part of the graphic snob crowd.
Cities with "countryside"-slots and production chains does remind me a bit of Ymir... just with less city-building.
I think the age progression is happening a lot faster than it should, it barely gives you time to build the things you want...
You were turned off by the graphics? I found it immediately appealing
You keep saying to treat it like an indie title, but I don't think I can. This is Paradox. HoI4, Stellaris, EU4, CK3, all very big hits in their own right. This game feels a bit unpolished from a company that has the means to do better.
It's only published by Paradox, not developed by their in house studio like those other games
A game is either quality or it isn't. There is no such thing of treating a game like an "indie", "AAA", like it came out in the 90's, like it can out today.
It seems like an interesting game regardless of who makes it or when it was made.
it objectively is an indie title though
@@iliketea9122it’s objectively not an Indie title, since it has a publisher (paradox). Though it does have a similar dev style and size as a lot of indie developers
@@williamheslop5756all indie means is in development, which the studio is in development and so is the game. Meaning it is indie. Paradox is not indie but they are just the publisher
Indie game? It doesn't have so much visual bling, but overall it looked great. Will definitely buy it
And honestly if you like the old style games, the graphics are gorgeous also. Played a lot of civ 3, age of mythology, rise of nations etc back in the day and this does bring a bit of nostalgia
Kind of sucks that within 30 mins we've flown through 3 different ages. You will never enjoy the individual ages.
The surprise for me here is after 11minutes 😮
Is to find put that i can return to previous era to research 😅 😢
The graphics don't bother me, looking at this. I think they can grow on me.
this game looks so interesting ^^ cant wait to try it ^^
I'm trying to understand why you'd build 2 cities so close together instead of expanding the first city. What are the pros and cons vs each? Basically growing wide vs growing tall I guess. Because at the half way point you had cotton in one city, is it usable in the capital for converting to other stuff?
the only thing i dislike is the 3 techs per area thing ... wish i could change it to five so most of them get actually used
Oh look it's Civ 7.
So it's a civ clone with some Humanity mechanics and a bit more rogue-lite mechanics to mix things up?
Interesting.
Paradox is in fine form.
Have you heard the rumored dlc of the game? It's called Millennial😂
I like this, I have never cared much about graphics (I spend 98% of my game time playing a MUD, telnet based text only game), I miss the old Civ tho, same for Railroad Tycoon - that one is borderline unplayable now, it's a game that works best with cells rather than "free drawing" with limited tools, everything ends up like a soup.
Great ideas there. Graphics I can deal with, but this UI is horrendous.
You need so many clics before you can do anything!
Oh civ 6
Dont give me hope
Byzantium? I can't wait to see the other famously Roman cities like Athens, Argos, Corinth, and Thebes.
Moar. Game look very intresting, and its crying shame graphics hold it down ;/ I think I'll buy it just to encourage the devs even though I'm not sure if I'll play it a lot.
This definitely looks promising as a sort of... anti-civ.
Civ has become far too ingrown with its super specific ruler and nation gameplay styles, whereas Humankind went... really weird with its "Japan is now known as the Netherlands" approach to a nation identity.
Having a strong fantasy and "alternate earth" feel definitely works.
Do the systems feel fleshed out or incomplete? I can't in good conscience buy another Paradox game and get sucked into and endless loop of updates and necessary DLC to complete the game. Jury is out for me.
4x Strategy Indie Game from Paradox? Huh?
What's next, the indie Open World from Ubisoft?
ver wierd to see Brasilia in 3500 BCE
Idk, I don't see the issues with the graphics. It just looks like civ to me. Civ 5, but that was better than 6 anyway
This seems like a nice cross between Civ and EU... more mechanics than Civ but as seriously involved as EU.
Praise Pravus
make....another vid my good sir
Why when playing Old world Blues, he never reads the focuses or seems too lazy to read it all?
interesting
Honest question: WHY would we treat it as an indie game from a smaller developer?
If I understand correctly, this is made by Paradox and they arent exactly tiny hat.
As for the game...seems ok?
It doesnt seem bad and in fact a damn sight better than other recent hex/tile based 4x games.
Not sure what the DRAW is.
For example, I cant differentiate the faction playstyles, though more familiarity might alleviate that.
Probably gonna stick with modded Civ 5 😅
It's only **published** by paradox, not made by them. The studio making it only has like 20-ish employees. So we'd treat it as an indie game by a small developer because that's exactly what it is
@@iliketea9122 That sounds like a smokescreen. It still has a large publisher behind it, with lots of experience in this field, and funds for it.
Also of concern, I believe Paradox has applied their "eternal dlc chain" practices to games they only "published" as well.
well byzantium did last 1000 years longer than rome.