I am British and run a small business. Myself and my partner are respectful of her passing but are not royalists. We decided to keep our business open to allow other people who are not bothered about watching the queens funeral on Monday to come out and have some food or drink. We got a lot of negative messages about keeping our business open. Crazy
It must have taken courage to do that, especially with all the backlash people tend to give. What I don't understand is how the nhs decided to cancel medical appointments including maternity checks just because the nation was supposed to mourn like how is the death of one person more important than the health of millions
As someone from the EU it was really interesting. Under a video on the topic I wrote that I find it interesting that a country identifying as democratic also has such love and so much identity invested in its monarch. And it was a genuine question of where that comes from but people got pretty mad that I was questioning the royal family as undemocratic (which it kind of is isn't it?). It was really eye opening to me as an 'outsider' from a country with no royal family just HOW attached people in the UK still are to the concept of a monarch. Must be a whole interesting identity thing in itself to be british and be in the middle of all this if you don't hold the same strong feelings.
@@shauryasaxena5531 I know it seems crazy to me. I have nothing against those who feel the need to mourn I just do not see why the whole country has to stop for it.
@@DarkHarlequin I just feel like the whole world has become very touchy about any thought process that does not follow the majority. It’s sad really and does not painty a pretty picture for the future.
@@stuart6186 Not ancestors Stuart. She was alive when the apherteid began. Not only that, she was there with her father, the king at the time, to celebrate the start of it. She has a lot to say about it.
@Stuart So she couldn’t have spoke out against the British military in Kenya, displacing native Kenyans and giving their land away to British settlers? Couldn’t have said a word about it? She couldn’t have said anything about South Africa, Jamaica, or India? She had to keep quiet because she had no power and just had to accept the wealth those operations gave her? Really? Stop insulting people with recent history you know nothing about.
If you like people who are ignorant of our history. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Noah is ignorant. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Not in her whole life did the Queen express a sense of remorse or atleast acknowledgement of the atrocities the Brits did in the Indian subcontinent. I don't know how to respect such a person. My grandfather was a freedom fighter and was put behind bars. I have heard stories about the same growing up and has never been easy for us. Every word from his mouth was a gem.
@@jimmcloughlin Well, the caste system did exist in the olden days as a form of social classes, but the British made it political by creating electorates and vote banks among individual castes, the effects of which are still seen today.
@@jimmcloughlin lol thats what you white supremacist have got to say all the time. When you don't understand a culture you dont lecture on it. Don't get me started on number of genocides your ancestors have committed.
Noah is ignorant. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Thank you Trevor. For putting it out there so bluntly. As an Indian, nobody can force me to mourn for her. The wounds in the hearts of people oppressed and tortured by the British empire would never forget, their families would never stop resenting the crown, when your grandparents have gone through such horrific abuse in the hands of the British empire it's not so easy to forget. India has been Independent for 75 years only, the queen has lived longer than that, so the people who faced the wrath of the British empire some of them are still alive. You can mourn your queen but you cannot ask us to do the same. I don't hold animosity towards the British people of today though i do resent their ignorance about their colonial past and it's atrocities. I truly do not resent the people but i have the right to resent the royal family.
Agreed! He always manages to get his point/perspective across in a discussion without resulting to insults, belittling or showing anger. Plus he's always respectful and actually listens to someone he may not agree with. It always amazes me when he's impressed or got someone on the far right to hear him out. I think we all could learn a thing or two from him. Kindness truly does go a long way.
@@ry5125 Thats a very narrow way of looking at a person. He was also making fun of his country/politicians/parents/Indians/Americans/Mexicas etc. Don't make him out to be a racist. He is one of the most sane individuals I have seen on a screen.
@Michelle he did you just didn't watch all of his stand ups. He made fun of every race. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean you can spread false information.
“you can’t expect people to show respect for something that never respected them” trevor is so well spoken i am glad he addressed this because its shocking how ignorant people are to all the atrocities the queen and british monarchy committed
My Mum and Grandma told me horror stories of what the Brits did to us under colonialism. How so much was taken away and we were left to starve. How my uncle was dragged off to fight for them during the war then dumped back with PTSD and left to suffer. Yet we are supposed to care about the figurehead of it all because our relatives and lives don't matter.
Say it again...they decapitated the resistors in Kenya and took their heads to Britain as trophies and that's the least of what the Britons did.. .I could give af bout the queen or the royal family tbh
Same here. I am from Bengal. Bengal is one the most fertile places yet there was a man made famine caused by Britain because all the food was being stolen and sent to Britain. Where were the royals then? British Royals my foot! If you want to see a really exemplary king, look at the King of Bhutan.
I'm from Barbados and I'm very very proud of the fact that we left her rule before she died. She lived long enough to watch us say "you're not our queen!".
Any country that has the British monarch as head of state can do that at any time, it's always just up to the people. The reaction "we stuck it to the Queen and the Brits!" still shows a child-like degree of dependence, needing someone else to help define yourself. Just be enthusiastic and ambitious for the new era of genuine Barbadian domestic sovereignty. Ignoring a dead old woman and looking to the future would be a lot more worthwhile than trash-talking her corpse and continuing to obsess. "Gro up", I guess I'm saying...
@@athirkell I think you misinterpret my comment, which is absolutely fine. I don't expect every single person to understand. It's not about "sticking it to" any one or any institution. It's about the pride it evokes for myself and fellow citizens. It's about the hope that my Caribbean brothers and sisters will give serious consideration to taking that step. It's about the institution that is the monarchy hopefully at some time understanding and admitting that theirs is an outdated model of leadership which doesn't hold the best interest of the subjected states at heart and maybe (even though it's a long shot) make the process of total liberation easier for those who remain under their thumb. So yes. It's important to some of us that that message was communicated directly to as many of them as possible. It's ok though if that's not important for you. We each get to fight the battle however best we see fit. Do you son
@@group7842 Not your fault @Alex's comprehension and analytical skills are deficient. Whilst your comment was based on logic and commonsense, the same conclusion cannot apply to your critic whose main objection to your comment is based on it upsetting the corpse.
I am finally glad he's addressing this like from him to the audience cuz the story with the queen and her passing and why people aren't all mourning, it's very complicated
what's so complicated about not having any condolences for someone who essentially represented the last overreaching empire on earth that essentially died in WWII? and with that said, i hope the US empire will fall and come out of it the same way the UK has... but i ain't holding my breath.
@@Echo81Rumple83 well you wouldn't understand if you're not from those countries that clearly have a complicated history with that institution. As an indigenous Mexican woman I have conflicted feelings about the Catholic church and I was raised Catholic.
@@alexialanda27 That's also not complicated. You just don't want to let go of our colonizers. none of it is real. They just put it in our brains so we're easier to exploit.
Thank you Trevor for explaining succinctly and precisely our complicated relationship with the monarchy. As a Jamaican citizen, for me, it was necessary.
Like what? I'm curious I don't understand I thought actual queen/king have no real power but that the power relies in the PM and all that. For instance I see that the England left a mess in India but that was in 1947 and Elizabeth was crowned queen in 52 how is her fault? I don't get it. What is internet not telling me. I'm honestly asking as someone who is from a Spanish colonized country.
@@franchescamayialmonte1303 You are correct...it's the PM that actually runs things. The Monarchy is out of date and its time is up...although, they do have that 'wave' down. 😂👋
@@franchescamayialmonte1303 when you become a leader of a country, you inherit all the right and wrongs that the country did to it's people or in this case other nations. Colonization was a British sin and her being the queen, she has to be held accountable. Her country benefited from that a continues to benefit from it at the expense of these oppressed nations. The same goes with slavery in America. The US administration continues to right the wrongs of slavery even though the current generation were not there at the time.
@@franchescamayialmonte1303 The things is that the Monarchy represents the English nation and it's past. That's why they still keep it around and still revere it so much. So if you are choosing to be representative of a nation, you are also choosing to be a representative of what that nation means for a lot of other people.
"She's someone's grandmother, you must mourn for her." Well she's the reason my grandmother died and my ancestors suffered . She didn't do anything for the oppressed countries . She had 70 years to do , but she never acknowledged. Hope she get what she deserves .
She did not anything for Diana either. That the boy's mother. And now the ghost of Diana will forever hunt them especially King Charles. Who chose him, many did not.
Spot on! I'm Kenyan,although she became Queen while in my country and all. We still lost alot of people fighting them. My Grandfather literally died fighting in the MAUMAU,my grandmother had to raise her kids alone and was punished for having a spouse who was in the resistance,she later died and my mom and her siblings grew up as orphans, Which begs the question, why on earth would I mourn the queen? Yes,she was a grandmother, but so were my grandparents who I never got to meet,who were killed and left my mom an orphan!
You are supposed to translate it this way she became the head of oppressor in your country,it is only to the brits whom she became a Queen,you should be sad she got power to oppress more while in Kenya.#Achakujifanyagoodygoody.
I think he's very one sided actually. No one is forcing anyone to mourn Elizabeth. But people are asking for people NOT to celebrate her death. To be respectful. If you don't want to mourn then fine. But to sing "lizzy in a box" or to tweet like Uju Anya, thats uncalled for. Trevor Noah just showed that he's bias. When people asking for respect, people are not asking for anyone to join them in mourning. I think Trevor Noah is misunderstanding it and now he's made this video that seems like a propaganda to show that the Brits are bad people. Again, if you don't want to mourn then fine. But be decent and be respectful of the dead.
@@jaimesantos1170 To people who never had any affiliation to the queen (as a subject or otherwise), this means nothing. Plus she had no real power, just wealth. I can acknowledge her passing, but cannot mourne her.
@@bogususer2595 She doesn't even have wealth actually. The palaces (Buckingham, Windsor, Kensington, etc) are owned by the crown. Thus, own by the UK government. Don't get me wrong, the Windsor are wealthy because they do have private incomes but the lavish wealth of what we think a monarch should have is not really owned by the family. Its tied to the crown which means, controlled by the government.
@@jaimesantos1170 I think the Irish that do choose to sing such things have all the right to do so, people may think it's tasteless just as much though, so it's whatever and even considering that the majority of Irish are doing no such thing anyway and are staying silent instead
It's Between The Scenes, so it's literally the stuff that doesn't get broadcast, bc it's during commercial breaks and such. But, I'm glad they started putting it on the UA-cam channel, bc it dies all need to be seen and heard.
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds Fully agree but this is what should be in the mainstream media broadcast and not "when the cameras are not on" to a fraction of those who watch the broadcast see.
To people thinking it was all a long time ago, the Queen ruled during that time. In fact the 60s during the first decade of her rule was a period of conflict in Africa as many nations were fighting for independence.
I think we need to be fair, yes the monarchy and imperialism did colonize a lot of countries and she inherited that. But her life and rule did not really embody that. Instead she was more inclined to have less conflict internally or externally. In fact unless we get someone from her inner circle that can tell us more, its best for me to assume that she never desired conflict of any kind. And for the record, eff the monarchy but much respect to the lady as a person
My grandpa was one of most peace-loving people I knew, at least for as long as I knew him. He was an adolescent at time of freedom struggle and whenever he recalled that time he was so visibly enraged like as a child I couldn't believe that he could hold such grudge against anyone but later I understood, at least some of it.
I like when he said that trying to dictate other people's emotions and beliefs in response to the queen's death is like trying to colonize their feelings. 😆 #clever
Mr. Noah has just defused the tension surrounding the Queen's passing with great perspective and deeper insight; allowing the mourner to mourn and respecting the views of those who are refusing to mourn the Queen. This is so relieving!!
yep, in fact it's more about personal grieving and healing as victim, it's *very* different perspective from the "mourners". Since she never acknoledged and "worked" for forgiveness about colonialism, it's in fact wounds reopening and these victims desserve now much more respect than the queen in my point of view...
Trevor takes this moment to teach us about what it feels like to live under colonialism, but he can't help himself and give us wisdom that applies to all, and perspective that we all need. Bravo! This commentary was sensitive, illuminating, and taught me a great deal and just a few minutes.
Yep. Usa former territories and indirect collonies feel this was too. Everywhere regime change and where the cold war was not so cold felt this way in 9/11.
I'm from the Bahamas 🇧🇸 and we were under British rule for centuries and I will not mourn her for the mere fact that she sat on a throne that was paid for over and over by the blood of many indigenous peoples all over the globe.
Intolerance is when one cannot tolerate that others have another experience. I will not mourn the Queen. In many European descendants' minds, people who are not with them and like them are automatically against them. We might not want to spend as much grieving energy as you because we have a different experience with the British Royal family. Respect that.
Everything that just came out of his mouth 100% I agree. You can't force someone to grieve for the same person the same exactly especially if they had a very terrible relationship with the person. And yes it is like recolonizing them to think a certain way. In a way that's its own version of fascism
Noah is ignorant. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
I don´t expect people to grieve, but to understand that some people do. Try and reverse it, people are getting "attacked" online, for grieving the loss of their queen. Most of them wasen´t alive, half of the time she was queen 😂 neither was the ones "attacking".
Ok, not fascism. That’s just using that word too lightly. It certainly is inappropriate, ignorant and resembles the colonizing mindset and behavior of dictating people’s opinions and behaviors. But claiming it is equal to colonization or to fascism minimizes how bad colonization and fascism really were/are. Those words are being thrown around to lightly.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you, Travor. Some people try to simplify the suffering that the queen's family has caused around world. The pain is real. I still feel it the queen didn't. The colonizers have not regretted what they did because we didn't punish them. And they are still doing it. They still think they are superior.
@@atalakitok it's more than just a 'negative emotion' or an 'opinion' for us. how many people from the UK are even aware of the people killed under the British empire simply because of their religious and racist agendas? why did the royal family not apologize for the genocides at the hands of their forefathers? because they are either too proud of it or they're too egoistic to accept that could ever do something wrong. all this while lecturing the world on morality smh. the previous colonies of the British empire still face post colonial repercussions so yes, we need to bring this up at this moment. it's not a 'thing of the past' as we still face repercussions of it.
@@atalakitok you are telling us to respect a person who didn't even have the courtesy to say sorry for the atrocities they committed toward our country. this anger, animosity, or hatred that you pointed out didn't come out of nowhere. these feelings are there because of what has been done to us.
@@atalakitok Slavery, Jim crow and colonization is also from the past but the colonizers are always being racist and discriminatory to the people they enslaved and colonized. They will also make nasty remarks about how poor, unstable and impoverish those same countries are, even when they are the primary reason these countries are suffering. When will the colonizers forgive the colonized?
This exact same sentiment has been felt here in NZ. Maori MPs are getting in trouble for speaking out, but people seem to forget that the Maori people were brutalized by the British monarchy. They have no obligation to feel sad about this.
Didn't the Maori have battles nearly everyday? I took Anthropology. Many native cultures weren't kind to women at all. And their children would now be in the dark ages.
@@mzm4574 That's a dumb answer. Obviously, native women liked white men better than the natives who didn't exactly build mansions for the poor native women and children.
@@SipLeila I would really hold your tongue there. You don't know anything about Maori culture or their precolonial lifestyles. Maori women were treated with significantly more respect than british women were at the time. There were female Rangatira; chiefs, their Kuia were held on a pedestal in their society, treasured knowledge bearers and exemplars. Every civilization has conflict. It's pretty disgusting to claim that their lives were better off when the white man moved in and butchered them because they now had tangential access to better technology.
@@SipLeila you sound as though you are in support of colonization no matter what. The Maori culture is beautiful and poignant. Their language is finally being embraced and encouraged after the British tried to squash it. Before you berate them, read some more text books, preferably written from a Maori perspective instead of a white one.
I'm British and I thankyou so much for giving me the language and the angle to battle the insane hipocracy that has followed the Queen's death - in the comments section of your own show, no less. If one would show grief for the passing of the queen I ask that same individual if they would express equal grief for every single man woman and child who died as a result of the oppression of the British Empire 900+% an existence far more painful than that of Queen Elizabeth II.
Trevor's right. I was initially taken aback by the blatant disrespect toward The Queen. Not because I admire her, or relate to her in some significant way, but because even I as a White American was brainwashed over decades of media propaganda, to subconsciously respect the titles of the royal family, just for the sake of it. Those who were oppressed by the British Empire are under no obligation to show respect to those who contributed to their oppression.
Yep. The Kenyan in me just remembers the state of emergency of 1952 and the history of the brutality that went on afterwards under the hands of the British, until the country got its independence in 1963, and the callousness and injustices that happened on their leaving. And to date, the post-colonial trauma is still the major influence in the local politics of the country. It's never gone away.
@@nahidsyyed906 Nahid what’s more shocking for me is, when our land was partitioned, families lost everything, had identity crisis, rather still have it, it all happened in 1947, the year queen was having pompous wedding. Gandhi send her handkerchief, I mean old man you had time for THAT? So did nizam of Hyderabad. I understand it’s just a etiquette people royals follow. BUT, Gandhi was exception, he told people to fast even if someone lost their family to British bullets.
@@Kathakathan11 Partition did not happen because of the British. It happened because of the Muslim league and the iconic symbol of dumbness "Mohammad Ali Jinnah". Not because of Gandhi not because of congress not because of nehru not because of Mountbatten but because of The Indian muslim league ,the Hindu mahasabha and Jinnah.
@@ByAnyMeansNecessary. Jealous that white people have done better by FARMING - plain and simple work - not glamorous at all. Let's have TREVOR work on a farm for a summer. He's a wimp.
My parents literally went to school under the British rule , But they always talked about how strictly the british were also they never experienced any abuse from their British teachers (for some reason the British really wanted to educate them ) But it’s was never the same for my grandparents who had to work on the British coffee plantations , They always talked about how cruel and inhuman the British treated them.
@@shreeshanthkadam didn’t they leave the Indian population with a literacy rate far low then the rate before they came ? They owe so much to India , they could never pay it back the riches the stole !
I 1000% agree with Trevor. Coming from a former British colony, I was not bothered one bit after hearing about “the Queen’s” death. I did not mourn nor did I have sympathy towards her family because of what they did to my people. She proudly wore the stolen jewels that drove several affluent civilizations to abject poverty. That crown on her head, may it serve as a constant reminder to world, where she got it from and the suffering and death of the millions she and her family enslaved.
British living in the US here - Trevor nailed it as far as I'm concerned. My grandparents were Irish, and to me it's a significant and in many ways sad or melancholy marker of my the passage of time, but ultimately the institution is archaic and represents a time including some very dark history.
Absolutely agree with all that you say Trevor. Just one thing, when you rightly point out the brutality of the British empire towards Asians and Africans, could you spare a second for the Irish who suffered just as much. Mandela never forgot us, in part because we never forgot about the atrocities that took place under apartheid. Just sayin'.
The royal family never did nor do they respect anyone who isn’t English. They were vial and cruel and I deeply sympathize with the Irish and the Scots. Love from India 🇮🇳
Trevor has done an incredible job of providing a perspective that very few could. His ability to keep and use his platform with grace is so underrated and just marvelous. He definitely gives voice to the likes of me. I grew up in India and my grandparents participated in India’s freedom struggle. My grandfathers were jailed at different times and one of my grandmothers has recounted being 19/20 years old in the late 1940’s during partition, newly married and pregnant and having to make a week long train journey from Kashmir to South India because my grandad joined the Indian army. She said they wouldn’t know which train station they could stop at because sometimes everyone was dead and all they saw were dead bodies everywhere. She didn’t know if she would make it to her mother’s alive and she didn’t know if or when she would ever see my grandpa again. All this after both my grandparents grew up in abject poverty under the British. So yeah, I don’t mourn but I’ll respect those that do because my grandparents never had hate for the British and taught me to show respect in someone’s mourning and death.
@@johndough23 Don't u think your rather snobbish celebration of people speaking fine English reinforces exactly what people are complaining about concerning your superiority complex? English is just a language, to be fair it is now a dominant language on the world stage. But that is exactly a legacy of colonialism. Its dominance comes at the expense of many local languages. The fact that u somehow think that people are still proud of feel superior because they can speak English shows u are way out of touch. We speak English because of necessity and unlike our forefathers fully understand that nonsense is still nonsense even if it is delivered in English
Well spoken, very eloquent by Trevor. Condolences to the Queen's relatives, but many people never got the chance to see their grandchildren because the system took their life before they could live that long.
You're right Trevor! They can't force people who have had their ancestors shed their blood to basically get their independence to shed a tear and feel sad. Yeah, why should respect be given when it is not received! 😤
As an Irish person, I was initially sad that an old lady who we all know of died, but then I just immediately went the other way because of the British empire still trying to control our very souls
“people have this strange reverence for fame”. Truth! How does that happen? I keep thinking if I’m going to mourn the death of strangers, I’ll mourn the humble and oppressed, like children dying from malnutrition or preventable diseases.
Noah is the only comedian/late night host that always give a moment of sober reflection and in a fun way too. He's always making vital points that is really hard for anyone with a brain to argue about. He walks the very thin lines of "serious but fun" perfectly. This is why I love watching his daily show. Keep it up 🙂
Not really. He's racist at heart. He will find a way to support "black culture" and always make fun of "whites". He did it in a "funny" way which is not funny. You can look at all his interview or any of his talk, notice that he will always find a way to underplay whites and glorify black in a subtle and "funny" way. The thing is, you will never find him respect heartfully white people. He's racist at heart and he knows
Noah is ignorant. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Which colonies? They would be in the dark ages if they had not been colonized. Some, like India still are. Other Asians still think India is a horrible place with open sewers and huge rats.
Trevor is so unique, and so valuable, in the current talk show model: most (all? John Oliver may be an exception) are singularly focused on the humor. Everything they do serves the joke. While Trevor is of course very funny, his balanced but sharp eloquence and ability to explain very complex and nuanced situations is the star of the show, for me. It brings the most value to my life, and I think the country. These outtakes often highlight that.
I totally agree!!!!! Not just for the country but for the world! I've been watching his show for the past 3 or so years and always seems so right! There are certainly things my opinion differs on but it's such a way that he makes us understand both sides of an argument and get us a middle ground. Trevor is an international treasure.
Definitely a keeper,he's blessed with his perfect comic timing,intelligent,unpretentious n kind!Obviously an all rounder n a perfect gentleman!Really a rare find*
I was with a friend when the news of the queen's death got released. I had a little bit of sympathy while my friend had none. Our conversation went like this: "The queen died? About time" "Hey you can't say things like that. A person just died" "Oh you and your sympathy towards old people" "She was someone's grandma!" "Her people colonised other peoples' grandmas!" I was left with no words XP
#nigeria and it's creation is the BIGGEST insult and the most RACIST thing done to the #Biafran #Oyo-Dahomey #Benin #Kanem/Borno People's End colonial British presence in Africa
@@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 you’re exactly right. I was embarrassed and ashamed of Stephen Colbert‘s monologue about the queen. He showed no respect, not just for a queen but for anyone who passes on . I’m sure if someone spoke like he did and left if his mother passed away he certainly wouldn’t like it. But then! Lately I’ve lost a lot of respect for Colbert. He seems to have let fame go to his head . I used to like & admire him but, not so much anymore.
I was just arguing with a Brit about this. He was angry at me for saying the same things Trevor is saying here, plus the fact that the new "king," a billionaire who never worked a day in his life, refused to pay for the pomp and circumstance of his mother's funeral, even as Britain is devolving into a Third Would country where food banks have to be set up for the doctors and nurses who can't afford to eat or pay their outrageous energy bills. He responded by saying that the monarchy was "worth it" because the whole world was envious of the UK's fine traditions and liveried footmen. Which then segued into dude defending the British police arresting people for holding up cardboard signs saying, "Not My King." The whole country is in the grip of a deep psychosis, caught between a ruling class and its supporters desperately nostalgic for the old empire and those who are desperate that something be done about the 45 million Brits--3/4ths of the population!--who are living under the official poverty level. To make things even worse, a new Prime Minister has just been selected, not elected, by a the ruling class behind closed doors. A Prime Minister who everyone agrees is the dumbest, most unqualified person ever to hold that office, precisely when the UK is in the deepest crisis since WWII. Pure insanity.
I am shocked to see that he does not even care about his own people. I never understood how one could logically the monarchy, but this is a whole new level
For this I (me being Swedish) see embarrassing parallels with the 19th century conservative Swedish culture - Sweden used to be a regional power but lost that position (and the economy) in the early 1800s, and then our culture and politicians yearned for the lost glory pomp and power. It took Sweden to approximately 1900-WW1 to get over the phantom-pains. UK had to give up the empire after WW2 - so it might take them some 30-40 years more to get over themselves and realise. It will be interesting to observe.
"...because the whole world was envious of the UK's fine traditions and liveried footmen". What a poor reason for supporting the monarchy. Apart from that I strongly doubt it's even true.
Beautifully said... given all the suffering South Africa has suffered, you were remarkably sensitive. Me? My heritage is Irish and so I almost posted a video of the crowd at a soccer match in Dublin singing "Lizzy's in a Box"...
Preach, Trevor. I've seen people who didn't even know the Queen's last name last week suddenly become emotionally affected authorities on British royalty this week. It's annoying.
@@junkyatv it was meant to be a joke. Though it does seem I was partially wrong about the last name. I only knew the Windsor part. Oh well, not like it's my royal family.
Noah is ignorant. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
I completely agree with Trevor’s opinion. Why would anybody even think about her death? It’s not like she was some national hero who did something heroic for which she should be worshipped. She was just there. In contrary besides representing Great Britain she also embodies the cruelties of the British empire, under which’s suppression many colonies suffered and they and their next generation have not recovered from. Of course if she is some icon and role model for you you can’t help it, because sadness is not an emotion you can control but the past can’t be forgotten that’s why it shouldn’t appear unordinary for somebody not mourning her death
The thing is (and I say this as an Anglophile), you cannot make some of the British people, especially those who only view the royal family through the celebrity lens, understand this point. To them, she was a public figure first, and a human being second. Many of them don´t even make the last step and acknowledge that, like everyone else, she was a deeply flawed human being. Also, I think the sense of superiority of the British Empire is still rooted too deeply in some people, which does hold the UK back and will do for some time. Personally, that is what I struggle with the most. I understand that the British culture is very ceremony-heavy, but I find the amount of exposure here a bit tasteless (given that I find mourning to be a personal affair), and frankly unnecessary. I´d understand the need for a procession and some kind of a mass or memorial service. But the whole "lying in state" business and the endless queues to see a closed coffin of a stranger is just beyond me. The whole thing has a distinctly medieval vibe to it.
Thank you for this! Someone I know used to RUTHLESSLY bully my brother. Later on, he committed suicide over a girl. I felt for his family but people wanted me to feel bad... but I didn't. The same thing happened to one of my bullies... sort of, she either had a panic attack or seizure and coudn't get on the school bus one moring, she was fine, alive and well, so why should I care? I don't care about bad people. My heart goes out to the family of course, I'm not heartless, but it'd be messed up to tell people who have endured hatred from someone to push it all aside because they died or whatever.
i understand your point. My grandfather just passed away, he molested me when i was a kid. My whole family knew about it but didn't do anything. Now, they want me to mourn for him.
ngl had to reread your first sentences, and was wondering why you didn't feel bad over your brother committing suicide over a girl- then realized you were referring to the bully
@@bats9218 😂😂 No but seriously me and him just got into a car wreck and he was unscathed while I broke my arm and needed surgery and also had an abrasion on my eye. I just kept telling everyone how grateful I am that he is ok because we were hit on his side, I was the driver and he the passenger. If my brother ever killed himself I'd feel like I failed as a sibling.
@@princessconsuelabanana-ham8004 I'm so sorry that happened to you and I hope you are healing from your trauma :( I have a couple of old family members I haven't cared about passing, I never had to go through what you did but I was abused by my dad and my stepmom did try overdosing my brother but they kept quiet. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel bad for not caring about a cruel man who died. Karma always comes around.
I can relate. I have learnt to keep my distance and those whom I wish to share things in common with. Being a Christian, some of these decisions can sometimes be hard but we are all human.
Coming from Kenya, I can honestly say no one here is even talking about the queens death. We gained our independence from Britain about 60 years ago and the impact is still here. The British army literally has a training camp like a mile from my house to this day, and are major landowners in my city, so yeah, there's definitely no mourning going on over here🤷🏾♂️
@@jodiesheba7326 fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion at the end of the day. I'm just saying that I haven't encountered anyone mourning her or even talking about her death here. If you are mourning the queen, that's cool, but like Trevor said, not everyone will mourn someone they basically consider their oppressor... Fun fact, the day she became queen, she was right around where I live, which is a stone's throw away from where prince William proposed, and they still own tens of thousands of acres of land here, so there aren't many people shedding tears over here
My grandfather was assainated by the British soldiers on a farm in Kericho, we never got his body back to this very day, my grandmother died never knowing where my granddad's body was, so I concur with you, we lost so much under the crown, who mourns for those who refused to become subjects of the british....we can't mourn the queen....
@@FareeKerubo exactly, and sorry about your grandfather. And let's not forget they killed Dedan Kimathi and never gave us his body either. Yet we're supposed to mourn the person who oversaw literally all of that?! I'll pass
I am a german student and in my opinion everyone should decide on their own whether they want to mourn the queens passing. But if one does, he or she should not force their opinion upon others.
For me as a US citizen, I've never given any attention to the royal family except for Meghan since I was a huge Suits fan. And also as someone born in the 90s, I don't fully understand her reign and the repercussions to so many nations. If the Queen and the monarchy meant something to you, mourn as you will. If it didn't, then don't. I think it's as simple as that to be honest. Also - she achieved what she did because of her bloodline. So, I mean..
In many ways she achieved what she did DESPITE her bloodline - she oversaw tremendous change to the monarchy during her reign, (although perhaps not all by design) including many former colonies becoming independent nations, while many other chose to remain a part of the commonwealth, a fact that many in this comment section seem to be missing.
@@sumotherdude like I said, I'm not well-versed about her reign and thank you for sharing this! It seems like a lot has changed during her time yet I'm not the one to take that gratitude. I hope that all that were affected can in their own way
@@sumotherdude have you ever heard of the Mau Mau Uprising? Or the Biafra Genocide? The Benin Art? Those happened at her DIRECT intervention. We joined the Commonwealth of Nations under duress. What options did we have? Even now, we are second class to White Commonwealth nations like Canada, Australia and New Zealand. I think you have chosen to selectively filter precisely what he said: those people were MASSACRED even if their countries later gained independence. Colonisers have a really difficult time with empathy. The ENDS do not justify the means. Please stop encouraging the astounding ignorance of the original poster and search your empty soul before calling out other comments.
You realize that, even as a US citizen, you can educate yourself on history so that you CAN understand the repercussions of British colonialism and the monarchy across the world, right?
Love ya Trevor, always speaking the truth. My mother never expressed hatred of the British either, it was sort like, yeah that happened. It was just their life. That doesn’t mean they didn’t commit atrocities and create huge systemic issues that we are still struggling with today
Oh my!! This is the most sensible and real thing I have heard since September 8th. Trevor is really at the top of his game recently. So articulate and clearly just being honest. I love how he has an African mother and white father and so really the typical attacks on people sharing his opinion is really difficult to make stick on him.
Thanks you, Trevor, for once again speaking such simple but clear truth. I have never been a British subject or lived in a Commonwealth country. And I understand that a lot of Brits are saying, "I love her for what she did for us during the War." Okay. Fine for you. But outside of the racism and colonialism that the Crown and England in general has never apologised for (and how easy is it to say "I'm sorry"? Netherlands is aplogising for slavery soon. It's just words after all. You can say them easily), her country destabilized the political systems in the Middle East and the world is suffering from those traumas to this day. Why should we mourn the loss of someone who sat by as her country's government lied and cheated to "get Brexit done"? She wouldn't lift a finger to save her own homeland when it needed her most! Someone being a grandmother does not make them a saint. Having children doesn't make you automatically worthy of respect. She was just a rich woman who ignored the horrors going on in the world when she could have waved a hand and lessened some of them. And she bailed out her criminal son from abusing teenage girls. No, I will not mourn her.
Soo well put Trevor and the expectation is actually outrageous i also heard so many story from both grand parent about their childhood and what my great grandparent had to endure nd how British empire effected millions of lives across the Indian subcontinent its a tragedy to say the least they had the audacity to demonize people of color ridiculed our culture language in our Own freaking motherland
They came and found a starving group of dirt hut building cave men and left them with education, tools, and modern technology. Decades later they've used what they learned and lifted millions of people out of poverty. But go on crying as hard as you can. Losers lol.
You say it clear and respectful, for both sides, I liked that, thumbs up 2 you.. I watched Grandma 😊 when you taped her.. I am a 72 yr old black woman.. proud of you.. bless ur ❤️
@@anzelmasmatutis2500 She never acknowledged the damage her country caused, which is still very much a part of individuals' lives all over the world. Why should we mourn the person who did that and didn't care?
We don't expect presidents to apologize for things previous presidents did. All I'm seeing is completely brain dead comments on this page from people who have no common sense.
@@sheldoncoffelt1891 We absolutely do expect presidents and heads of state to apologize on behalf of the nation when they've done something heinous in the past. Whether it's Germany on account of the Holocaust or Australia on account of the genocide of Aboriginals or the US on account of the Internment of Japanese Citizens or Slavery and Jim Crow. State or National Apologies are a thing and are something we should fight for as a minimum, if not for reparations.
@@sheldoncoffelt1891 This man has brain worms of course we do, literally they do it all the time, all heads of state and religions do, the pope apologised for abuses under the last pope, because the institution is responsible not the person running it.
Absolutely love these in between scenes --honest, real. I wish you had a show that wasn't comedy based just for discussing issues with your peers. I find most of this world lacks common sense and you have plenty to share. Thank you.
Totally agree...we do need that and you would find that the discussion is more like a Therapy that heals,makes us laugh, understand each other as a Human race..regardless of background.
thank you for explaining this so beautifully. i don't get the hype over her death, i shrug my shoulders to be honest. the fact that her death is causing so many to mourn is incredibly weird to me.
"You can't expect people to show respect for something that never respected them." Trevor Noah. This specific show resonates with billions of people, Noah! No one has the right, let alone the oppressor, to define, and prescribe how and when you choose to express your grief, pain, and suffering at the hands of an oppressor.
But she did show those countries and people respect, she didn't go out and colonise them. She inherited an empire of oppressed people but took many actions to try and reduce the harm done and visited those countries and leaders to hear them out. She never refused a call for independence and ordered the navy to resubjucate the people. The historical institution may have disrespected them but as far as I am aware the queen in her role and as a person never did
@@puckelberry she inherited it and CONTINUED British rule . The only reason they stopped is because the empire started to fall if they had the same power we probably still would be under British rule. It wasn't a favour they did giving us independence, there's a reason most our countries have red to represent those who died fighting for independence.
@@puckelberry did you know that the queen visited a recently independent India and the people there were holding their breath for her to at least apologized for the jallianwala bagh massacre, where a British general open fired on a peaceful gathering of people after blocking the exit. did you know what the Britishers' initial response was? the said was that he was doing his duty. it was one of the most inhumane things to ever happen and all he got was a tap on the wrist while countless innocent people lost their lives and a country was left scared. this incident was the beginning of the end of British rule. the queen didn't give us our independence our leaders and ancestors took it by starving themselves and rebelling against British rule. this is only one account of the atrocities committed by the Britishers in India. so don't insult the efforts of our freedom fighters who sacrificed their lives to get us our independence by saying that the queen gave us our freedom. she came to visit India in 1997 and she went to jallianwala bagh but never said sorry or apologized on the behalf of British empire for the murderous act. and her husband after reading the plague that consisted of people who died there during the massacre, had the audacity to say that it's a bit exaggerated and the list is so big because it must have included the wounded ones. and then goes on to say he is sure of it because he was told about this killing by the son of the man who was responsible for this murderous act.
Noah is ignorant. There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history???? They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
When aliens come and say "take me to your leader", we are sending them straight to you Trevor 🤣🤣🤣 You are the only one capable to reason with all kinds of species and make sense of things that we find difficult to explain 👊🏾
Yes, it's very complex. I feel for her loved ones and it really feels like an end of an era. I respected her as a human being but I'm not blind to what the British monarchy meant for so many people. I'm Pākehā - white, born and raised in Aotearoa New Zealand - but I recognise that for Māori who are the indigenous people here, being colonised was a painful and oppressive experience. Institutional racism still exists. I don't personally experience it but I respect that for many, it is a major issue. The Queen represented all of that even if she personally wasn't responsible for colonisation.
@@alicejenkinsmail she wasn't even alive when many places were being colonised! Yes, the Crown can be held accountable, but she wasn't personally responsible for the colonisation because she was literally not alive.
My ancestors fleed from the tyranny of that monarchy. My country fought a war to be free of that monarchy. Now I watch long lines of people waiting to see her coffin. That's bizarre.
I'm similar to Trevor, being mixed with parents from Africa and Europe and having grown up in between cultures from different continents, I share the same perspective. On one hand I am sad, yes that the Queen died, as a symbol, as a constant but at the same time I can't ignore what her rule and relatives have done to my African ancestors and even though independence was obtained, people are still struggling with the fallout of collonial times.
@@johndough23 First off, English is my second language of 6 that I speak. In this day and age, we live in a interconnected world, isolating ourselves to a single, regional language is just not practical nor wise; particularly, from a business, touristic, professional standpoint English is the language of the world. So why would I limit myself that way?! It is one thing to value our roots, it is another to be backward and ignorant, that's just not constructive and practical.
Malaysian here, we gained independence in 1957. I guessed in a way, a lot of us in the ex colonies are still reeling from the effects of British colonialism. And a significant number in Middle East and Africa got the most brunt of it, as what Trevor Noah just implied. We are seeing these effects till this day. And the British Empire used the idea and the symbolism of The Crown 👑 to achieved their goals of conquest, plunder and the famous British divide and conquer for colonisation. Thus, some of us do not see the idea of the Queen's passing as a day of mourning, rather an end of an era , the symbol of The Crown as a vestigial institution of the past empire. Anyways, Selamat Hari Malaysia 🇲🇾 (Malaysia day 16th September) and my condolences to the Queen's family and UK
I am British and run a small business. Myself and my partner are respectful of her passing but are not royalists. We decided to keep our business open to allow other people who are not bothered about watching the queens funeral on Monday to come out and have some food or drink. We got a lot of negative messages about keeping our business open. Crazy
It must have taken courage to do that, especially with all the backlash people tend to give. What I don't understand is how the nhs decided to cancel medical appointments including maternity checks just because the nation was supposed to mourn like how is the death of one person more important than the health of millions
As someone from the EU it was really interesting. Under a video on the topic I wrote that I find it interesting that a country identifying as democratic also has such love and so much identity invested in its monarch. And it was a genuine question of where that comes from but people got pretty mad that I was questioning the royal family as undemocratic (which it kind of is isn't it?). It was really eye opening to me as an 'outsider' from a country with no royal family just HOW attached people in the UK still are to the concept of a monarch.
Must be a whole interesting identity thing in itself to be british and be in the middle of all this if you don't hold the same strong feelings.
@@shauryasaxena5531 I know it seems crazy to me. I have nothing against those who feel the need to mourn I just do not see why the whole country has to stop for it.
@@DarkHarlequin I just feel like the whole world has become very touchy about any thought process that does not follow the majority. It’s sad really and does not painty a pretty picture for the future.
Well now you know how it feels to support the other side.
Long love Palestine
2:08 "You cant expect people to show respect for something that never respected them" this line is probably the best line of trevor Noah
I will totally borrow that line from him for sure ;)
Who literally think everyone except them are filthy lowly peasants.
she wasn't a thing and had no say in the things that happened to their ancestors.
@@stuart6186 Not ancestors Stuart. She was alive when the apherteid began. Not only that, she was there with her father, the king at the time, to celebrate the start of it. She has a lot to say about it.
@Stuart So she couldn’t have spoke out against the British military in Kenya, displacing native Kenyans and giving their land away to British settlers? Couldn’t have said a word about it?
She couldn’t have said anything about South Africa, Jamaica, or India? She had to keep quiet because she had no power and just had to accept the wealth those operations gave her?
Really? Stop insulting people with recent history you know nothing about.
I love these unscripted between the scenes moments! Trevor is so eloquent and funny on the fly, and it's amazing to see.
Unscripted? Right.
@Young Dawah You're talking about the Queen, right?
If you like people who are ignorant of our history.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Noah is ignorant.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
@Young Dawah No, I know the descendants who go to Canada to do their genealogy. DUH.
Not in her whole life did the Queen express a sense of remorse or atleast acknowledgement of the atrocities the Brits did in the Indian subcontinent. I don't know how to respect such a person. My grandfather was a freedom fighter and was put behind bars. I have heard stories about the same growing up and has never been easy for us.
Every word from his mouth was a gem.
Did the English introduce the caste system?
@@jimmcloughlin Well, the caste system did exist in the olden days as a form of social classes, but the British made it political by creating electorates and vote banks among individual castes, the effects of which are still seen today.
@@jimmcloughlin jaa na angrez
@@jimmcloughlin lol thats what you white supremacist have got to say all the time. When you don't understand a culture you dont lecture on it. Don't get me started on number of genocides your ancestors have committed.
@@akashsinha9866 You've got me there. I can't quite work out what it fully means.
“Until the lions have their own historians, the history of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.” ~ Chinua Achebe
Rest In Peace Chinua Achebe!
Well said Nwafor
Thisssss
Amen
@Spirit Unbound Ah yes the guy whose "many wives" "feared him" as the book specifically states. Truly a civilized and respectable individual. 🙄
Your international and human-centric perspective is beautiful. Thank you.
Noah is ignorant.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Thank you Trevor. For putting it out there so bluntly. As an Indian, nobody can force me to mourn for her. The wounds in the hearts of people oppressed and tortured by the British empire would never forget, their families would never stop resenting the crown, when your grandparents have gone through such horrific abuse in the hands of the British empire it's not so easy to forget. India has been Independent for 75 years only, the queen has lived longer than that, so the people who faced the wrath of the British empire some of them are still alive.
You can mourn your queen but you cannot ask us to do the same. I don't hold animosity towards the British people of today though i do resent their ignorance about their colonial past and it's atrocities. I truly do not resent the people but i have the right to resent the royal family.
my dude always seems like one of the most reasonable and level headed people ive ever seen. respect!
Agreed! He always manages to get his point/perspective across in a discussion without resulting to insults, belittling or showing anger. Plus he's always respectful and actually listens to someone he may not agree with. It always amazes me when he's impressed or got someone on the far right to hear him out. I think we all could learn a thing or two from him. Kindness truly does go a long way.
@@deserttrekkie he's a comedian & nothing else. 2 years ago he was making fun of Asians & laughing at them.
@@ry5125 Thats a very narrow way of looking at a person. He was also making fun of his country/politicians/parents/Indians/Americans/Mexicas etc. Don't make him out to be a racist. He is one of the most sane individuals I have seen on a screen.
@Michelle he did you just didn't watch all of his stand ups. He made fun of every race. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean you can spread false information.
@@ry5125 Most comedians tell you he truth you might not like he the delivery however get he message.
“you can’t expect people to show respect for something that never respected them” trevor is so well spoken i am glad he addressed this because its shocking how ignorant people are to all the atrocities the queen and british monarchy committed
Trevor's species dividing set is a specious attempt at humor.
INCOMING "she wasn't a queen when colonialism happened" comments..
👏👏👏
The queen didnt commit these things. She is a figure head.
YYYYAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
My Mum and Grandma told me horror stories of what the Brits did to us under colonialism. How so much was taken away and we were left to starve. How my uncle was dragged off to fight for them during the war then dumped back with PTSD and left to suffer. Yet we are supposed to care about the figurehead of it all because our relatives and lives don't matter.
Where are you from?
Say it again...they decapitated the resistors in Kenya and took their heads to Britain as trophies and that's the least of what the Britons did.. .I could give af bout the queen or the royal family tbh
Same here. I am from Bengal. Bengal is one the most fertile places yet there was a man made famine caused by Britain because all the food was being stolen and sent to Britain. Where were the royals then? British Royals my foot! If you want to see a really exemplary king, look at the King of Bhutan.
The queen never acknowledged it
@@rextro4799 well said ! Winston Churchill was the biggest monster ever!!
I'm from Barbados and I'm very very proud of the fact that we left her rule before she died. She lived long enough to watch us say "you're not our queen!".
Any country that has the British monarch as head of state can do that at any time, it's always just up to the people. The reaction "we stuck it to the Queen and the Brits!" still shows a child-like degree of dependence, needing someone else to help define yourself. Just be enthusiastic and ambitious for the new era of genuine Barbadian domestic sovereignty. Ignoring a dead old woman and looking to the future would be a lot more worthwhile than trash-talking her corpse and continuing to obsess. "Gro up", I guess I'm saying...
@@athirkell just a question, where are you from?
@@athirkell I think you misinterpret my comment, which is absolutely fine. I don't expect every single person to understand. It's not about "sticking it to" any one or any institution. It's about the pride it evokes for myself and fellow citizens. It's about the hope that my Caribbean brothers and sisters will give serious consideration to taking that step. It's about the institution that is the monarchy hopefully at some time understanding and admitting that theirs is an outdated model of leadership which doesn't hold the best interest of the subjected states at heart and maybe (even though it's a long shot) make the process of total liberation easier for those who remain under their thumb. So yes. It's important to some of us that that message was communicated directly to as many of them as possible. It's ok though if that's not important for you. We each get to fight the battle however best we see fit. Do you son
@@group7842 Not your fault @Alex's comprehension and analytical skills are deficient.
Whilst your comment was based on logic and commonsense, the same conclusion cannot apply to your critic whose main objection to your comment is based on it upsetting the corpse.
I know that her passing is a blessing to so many people
I am finally glad he's addressing this like from him to the audience cuz the story with the queen and her passing and why people aren't all mourning, it's very complicated
what's so complicated about not having any condolences for someone who essentially represented the last overreaching empire on earth that essentially died in WWII?
and with that said, i hope the US empire will fall and come out of it the same way the UK has... but i ain't holding my breath.
It's not complicated at all... There's just people trying to defend the undefendable
@@Echo81Rumple83 well you wouldn't understand if you're not from those countries that clearly have a complicated history with that institution.
As an indigenous Mexican woman I have conflicted feelings about the Catholic church and I was raised Catholic.
@@alexialanda27 That's also not complicated. You just don't want to let go of our colonizers. none of it is real. They just put it in our brains so we're easier to exploit.
It is not complicated at all, the Monarchy is an Ecological Nightmare whose only Job is to perpetuate the Slavery and Genocide of Colonialism.
Thank you Trevor for explaining succinctly and precisely our complicated relationship with the monarchy. As a Jamaican citizen, for me, it was necessary.
I agree I try to explain this I’m Trinidadian and my grandparents have told me plenty of stories
Like what? I'm curious I don't understand I thought actual queen/king have no real power but that the power relies in the PM and all that. For instance I see that the England left a mess in India but that was in 1947 and Elizabeth was crowned queen in 52 how is her fault? I don't get it. What is internet not telling me. I'm honestly asking as someone who is from a Spanish colonized country.
@@franchescamayialmonte1303
You are correct...it's the PM that actually runs things.
The Monarchy is out of date and its time is up...although, they do have that 'wave' down. 😂👋
@@franchescamayialmonte1303 when you become a leader of a country, you inherit all the right and wrongs that the country did to it's people or in this case other nations. Colonization was a British sin and her being the queen, she has to be held accountable. Her country benefited from that a continues to benefit from it at the expense of these oppressed nations. The same goes with slavery in America. The US administration continues to right the wrongs of slavery even though the current generation were not there at the time.
@@franchescamayialmonte1303 The things is that the Monarchy represents the English nation and it's past.
That's why they still keep it around and still revere it so much.
So if you are choosing to be representative of a nation, you are also choosing to be a representative of what that nation means for a lot of other people.
"She's someone's grandmother, you must mourn for her."
Well she's the reason my grandmother died and my ancestors suffered .
She didn't do anything for the oppressed countries . She had 70 years to do , but she never acknowledged. Hope she get what she deserves .
She did not anything for Diana either. That the boy's mother. And now the ghost of Diana will forever hunt them especially King Charles. Who chose him, many did not.
She wasn’t a absolute monarch
Spot on!
I'm Kenyan,although she became Queen while in my country and all.
We still lost alot of people fighting them.
My Grandfather literally died fighting in the MAUMAU,my grandmother had to raise her kids alone and was punished for having a spouse who was in the resistance,she later died and my mom and her siblings grew up as orphans,
Which begs the question, why on earth would I mourn the queen?
Yes,she was a grandmother, but so were my grandparents who I never got to meet,who were killed and left my mom an orphan!
Kenya is rightfully British land.
@@sriraknaprasat2305 shut up
You are supposed to translate it this way she became the head of oppressor in your country,it is only to the brits whom she became a Queen,you should be sad she got power to oppress more while in Kenya.#Achakujifanyagoodygoody.
@@victormacharia3195
You deserved to be ruled over by the British Crown you weak minded fool.
@@sriraknaprasat2305 yea? And so is India
That is why I like him more than any other late-night hosts, he just told here what I was thinking for the past couple of days.
I think he's very one sided actually. No one is forcing anyone to mourn Elizabeth. But people are asking for people NOT to celebrate her death. To be respectful. If you don't want to mourn then fine. But to sing "lizzy in a box" or to tweet like Uju Anya, thats uncalled for.
Trevor Noah just showed that he's bias. When people asking for respect, people are not asking for anyone to join them in mourning. I think Trevor Noah is misunderstanding it and now he's made this video that seems like a propaganda to show that the Brits are bad people.
Again, if you don't want to mourn then fine. But be decent and be respectful of the dead.
@@jaimesantos1170 To people who never had any affiliation to the queen (as a subject or otherwise), this means nothing. Plus she had no real power, just wealth. I can acknowledge her passing, but cannot mourne her.
@@bogususer2595 She doesn't even have wealth actually. The palaces (Buckingham, Windsor, Kensington, etc) are owned by the crown. Thus, own by the UK government.
Don't get me wrong, the Windsor are wealthy because they do have private incomes but the lavish wealth of what we think a monarch should have is not really owned by the family. Its tied to the crown which means, controlled by the government.
@@jaimesantos1170 so she was the worlds most famous wealthfare queen.
@@jaimesantos1170 I think the Irish that do choose to sing such things have all the right to do so, people may think it's tasteless just as much though, so it's whatever and even considering that the majority of Irish are doing no such thing anyway and are staying silent instead
This should've been in the broadcasted episode. VERY WELL STATED, and thank you Trevor Noah.
It's Between The Scenes, so it's literally the stuff that doesn't get broadcast, bc it's during commercial breaks and such. But, I'm glad they started putting it on the UA-cam channel, bc it dies all need to be seen and heard.
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds Fully agree but this is what should be in the mainstream media broadcast and not "when the cameras are not on" to a fraction of those who watch the broadcast see.
I don't really care for this guy but I have to agree with him about this.
To people thinking it was all a long time ago, the Queen ruled during that time. In fact the 60s during the first decade of her rule was a period of conflict in Africa as many nations were fighting for independence.
She was literally in Africa when her father died and the crown passed to her.
@@junkyatv Yup - she was in Kenya in a lodge
She didnt rule. She reigned. The government ruled.
I think we need to be fair, yes the monarchy and imperialism did colonize a lot of countries and she inherited that. But her life and rule did not really embody that. Instead she was more inclined to have less conflict internally or externally. In fact unless we get someone from her inner circle that can tell us more, its best for me to assume that she never desired conflict of any kind.
And for the record, eff the monarchy but much respect to the lady as a person
@@drift_ah1518 Are you ashleep?
My grandpa was one of most peace-loving people I knew, at least for as long as I knew him. He was an adolescent at time of freedom struggle and whenever he recalled that time he was so visibly enraged like as a child I couldn't believe that he could hold such grudge against anyone but later I understood, at least some of it.
I like when he said that trying to dictate other people's emotions and beliefs in response to the queen's death is like trying to colonize their feelings. 😆 #clever
Bullseye 🎯
😂😂, people were agreeing with what he said in the audience… AND THE GUY HADNT EVEN FINISHED STATING HIS POINT
Hahaha
Mr. Noah has just defused the tension surrounding the Queen's passing with great perspective and deeper insight; allowing the mourner to mourn and respecting the views of those who are refusing to mourn the Queen. This is so relieving!!
yep, in fact it's more about personal grieving and healing as victim, it's *very* different perspective from the "mourners". Since she never acknoledged and "worked" for forgiveness about colonialism, it's in fact wounds reopening and these victims desserve now much more respect than the queen in my point of view...
Amen
Trevor takes this moment to teach us about what it feels like to live under colonialism, but he can't help himself and give us wisdom that applies to all, and perspective that we all need. Bravo! This commentary was sensitive, illuminating, and taught me a great deal and just a few minutes.
Well said!
Oh, sure. Like we need a foreigner to come here and preach and teach. Africans were the first slavers!!!!!
It’s white people rewriting history to act like they didn’t cause atrocities
Nothing new
Yep. Usa former territories and indirect collonies feel this was too. Everywhere regime change and where the cold war was not so cold felt this way in 9/11.
Now do your part and share this with your network of friends, family and foe.
I'm from the Bahamas 🇧🇸 and we were under British rule for centuries and I will not mourn her for the mere fact that she sat on a throne that was paid for over and over by the blood of many indigenous peoples all over the globe.
Intolerance is when one cannot tolerate that others have another experience. I will not mourn the Queen. In many European descendants' minds, people who are not with them and like them are automatically against them. We might not want to spend as much grieving energy as you because we have a different experience with the British Royal family. Respect that.
Everything that just came out of his mouth 100% I agree. You can't force someone to grieve for the same person the same exactly especially if they had a very terrible relationship with the person. And yes it is like recolonizing them to think a certain way. In a way that's its own version of fascism
Noah is ignorant.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
True
Yup
I don´t expect people to grieve, but to understand that some people do. Try and reverse it, people are getting "attacked" online, for grieving the loss of their queen. Most of them wasen´t alive, half of the time she was queen 😂 neither was the ones "attacking".
Ok, not fascism. That’s just using that word too lightly. It certainly is inappropriate, ignorant and resembles the colonizing mindset and behavior of dictating people’s opinions and behaviors.
But claiming it is equal to colonization or to fascism minimizes how bad colonization and fascism really were/are.
Those words are being thrown around to lightly.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you, Travor. Some people try to simplify the suffering that the queen's family has caused around world. The pain is real. I still feel it the queen didn't. The colonizers have not regretted what they did because we didn't punish them. And they are still doing it. They still think they are superior.
@@atalakitok it's more than just a 'negative emotion' or an 'opinion' for us. how many people from the UK are even aware of the people killed under the British empire simply because of their religious and racist agendas? why did the royal family not apologize for the genocides at the hands of their forefathers? because they are either too proud of it or they're too egoistic to accept that could ever do something wrong. all this while lecturing the world on morality smh.
the previous colonies of the British empire still face post colonial repercussions so yes, we need to bring this up at this moment. it's not a 'thing of the past' as we still face repercussions of it.
@@atalakitok you are telling us to respect a person who didn't even have the courtesy to say sorry for the atrocities they committed toward our country. this anger, animosity, or hatred that you pointed out didn't come out of nowhere. these feelings are there because of what has been done to us.
@@atalakitok Slavery, Jim crow and colonization is also from the past but the colonizers are always being racist and discriminatory to the people they enslaved and colonized. They will also make nasty remarks about how poor, unstable and impoverish those same countries are, even when they are the primary reason these countries are suffering. When will the colonizers forgive the colonized?
@@atalakitok they paid the people who were the enslavers not the enslaved! Why?
This exact same sentiment has been felt here in NZ. Maori MPs are getting in trouble for speaking out, but people seem to forget that the Maori people were brutalized by the British monarchy. They have no obligation to feel sad about this.
Didn't the Maori have battles nearly everyday? I took Anthropology. Many native cultures weren't kind to women at all. And their children would now be in the dark ages.
@@SipLeila nice whataboutism.
@@mzm4574 That's a dumb answer. Obviously, native women liked white men better than the natives who didn't exactly build mansions for the poor native women and children.
@@SipLeila I would really hold your tongue there. You don't know anything about Maori culture or their precolonial lifestyles. Maori women were treated with significantly more respect than british women were at the time. There were female Rangatira; chiefs, their Kuia were held on a pedestal in their society, treasured knowledge bearers and exemplars.
Every civilization has conflict. It's pretty disgusting to claim that their lives were better off when the white man moved in and butchered them because they now had tangential access to better technology.
@@SipLeila you sound as though you are in support of colonization no matter what. The Maori culture is beautiful and poignant. Their language is finally being embraced and encouraged after the British tried to squash it. Before you berate them, read some more text books, preferably written from a Maori perspective instead of a white one.
I'm British and I thankyou so much for giving me the language and the angle to battle the insane hipocracy that has followed the Queen's death - in the comments section of your own show, no less. If one would show grief for the passing of the queen I ask that same individual if they would express equal grief for every single man woman and child who died as a result of the oppression of the British Empire 900+% an existence far more painful than that of Queen Elizabeth II.
Trevor's right. I was initially taken aback by the blatant disrespect toward The Queen. Not because I admire her, or relate to her in some significant way, but because even I as a White American was brainwashed over decades of media propaganda, to subconsciously respect the titles of the royal family, just for the sake of it.
Those who were oppressed by the British Empire are under no obligation to show respect to those who contributed to their oppression.
Yep. The Kenyan in me just remembers the state of emergency of 1952 and the history of the brutality that went on afterwards under the hands of the British, until the country got its independence in 1963, and the callousness and injustices that happened on their leaving. And to date, the post-colonial trauma is still the major influence in the local politics of the country. It's never gone away.
🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪
Exactly the same between India and Pakistan.. The wounds are still raw, even after 75 years!
@@nahidsyyed906 yes this is what I was thinking too
@@nahidsyyed906 Nahid what’s more shocking for me is, when our land was partitioned, families lost everything, had identity crisis, rather still have it, it all happened in 1947, the year queen was having pompous wedding. Gandhi send her handkerchief, I mean old man you had time for THAT? So did nizam of Hyderabad.
I understand it’s just a etiquette people royals follow. BUT, Gandhi was exception, he told people to fast even if someone lost their family to British bullets.
@@Kathakathan11 Partition did not happen because of the British. It happened because of the Muslim league and the iconic symbol of dumbness "Mohammad Ali Jinnah". Not because of Gandhi not because of congress not because of nehru not because of Mountbatten but because of The Indian muslim league ,the Hindu mahasabha and Jinnah.
I love how Trevor articulates feelings of so many people.
No, he's a jealous fool.
@@SipLeila not Trevor’s fault that your two brain cells can’t understand such a simple message
@@SipLeila Why would you assume that? Jealous of what?
@@ByAnyMeansNecessary. Jealous that white people have done better by FARMING - plain and simple work - not glamorous at all. Let's have TREVOR work on a farm for a summer. He's a wimp.
@@SipLeila no you just described yourself 🤡🤡
My parents literally went to school under the British rule ,
But they always talked about how strictly the british were also they never experienced any abuse from their British teachers (for some reason the British really wanted to educate them )
But it’s was never the same for my grandparents who had to work on the British coffee plantations , They always talked about how cruel and inhuman the British treated them.
They just wanted to make educated slaves who can serve them relentlessly.
@@ShuvGh That's just exactly what they did to late 19 th century indians
@@ShuvGh they were educating people on how to be subjected , it want not about sharing knowledge for advancement!
@@shreeshanthkadam didn’t they leave the Indian population with a literacy rate far low then the rate before they came ?
They owe so much to India , they could never pay it back the riches the stole !
@@amalmoallin didn't say they educated everyone.
And yeah i totally agree that they were like the biggest scammers of all time.
I 1000% agree with Trevor. Coming from a former British colony, I was not bothered one bit after hearing about “the Queen’s” death. I did not mourn nor did I have sympathy towards her family because of what they did to my people. She proudly wore the stolen jewels that drove several affluent civilizations to abject poverty. That crown on her head, may it serve as a constant reminder to world, where she got it from and the suffering and death of the millions she and her family enslaved.
British living in the US here - Trevor nailed it as far as I'm concerned. My grandparents were Irish, and to me it's a significant and in many ways sad or melancholy marker of my the passage of time, but ultimately the institution is archaic and represents a time including some very dark history.
Trevor really nailed it with his insights. Exactly how I felt too.
Thank you Trevor. You are the only person I have heard say that not everyone is mourning the Queen. This is a message that really needed to be heard!!
Absolutely agree with all that you say Trevor. Just one thing, when you rightly point out the brutality of the British empire towards Asians and Africans, could you spare a second for the Irish who suffered just as much. Mandela never forgot us, in part because we never forgot about the atrocities that took place under apartheid. Just sayin'.
dont forget the Scotts
And the Welsh
I am black and I acknowledge anyone who has been oppressed. Be blessed
@@jesuschristpose896 Scotland was bribed into joining the UK not coerced like Ireland
The royal family never did nor do they respect anyone who isn’t English. They were vial and cruel and I deeply sympathize with the Irish and the Scots. Love from India 🇮🇳
Trevor has done an incredible job of providing a perspective that very few could. His ability to keep and use his platform with grace is so underrated and just marvelous. He definitely gives voice to the likes of me. I grew up in India and my grandparents participated in India’s freedom struggle. My grandfathers were jailed at different times and one of my grandmothers has recounted being 19/20 years old in the late 1940’s during partition, newly married and pregnant and having to make a week long train journey from Kashmir to South India because my grandad joined the Indian army. She said they wouldn’t know which train station they could stop at because sometimes everyone was dead and all they saw were dead bodies everywhere. She didn’t know if she would make it to her mother’s alive and she didn’t know if or when she would ever see my grandpa again. All this after both my grandparents grew up in abject poverty under the British. So yeah, I don’t mourn but I’ll respect those that do because my grandparents never had hate for the British and taught me to show respect in someone’s mourning and death.
Doing so in fine English, cheers.
@@johndough23 Don't u think your rather snobbish celebration of people speaking fine English reinforces exactly what people are complaining about concerning your superiority complex?
English is just a language, to be fair it is now a dominant language on the world stage. But that is exactly a legacy of colonialism. Its dominance comes at the expense of many local languages.
The fact that u somehow think that people are still proud of feel superior because they can speak English shows u are way out of touch. We speak English because of necessity and unlike our forefathers fully understand that nonsense is still nonsense even if it is delivered in English
Well spoken, very eloquent by Trevor. Condolences to the Queen's relatives, but many people never got the chance to see their grandchildren because the system took their life before they could live that long.
You're right Trevor! They can't force people who have had their ancestors shed their blood to basically get their independence to shed a tear and feel sad. Yeah, why should respect be given when it is not received! 😤
Why? LOL Most people in the world weren't as crude and mean to women and children as the NATIVES were.
@@SipLeila ignorance at its finest
@@SipLeila which history book did you study duh
@@SipLeila You know who invaded the land that already had people first, right? Did you fail history? You know who brought over small poxes?
@@SipLeila Did you read anything about the Caribbean, Africa, and Ireland?
As an Irish person, I was initially sad that an old lady who we all know of died, but then I just immediately went the other way because of the British empire still trying to control our very souls
Correct and who gave them permission !!!!!
We should never respect someone because they're rich, powerful or famous.
You do realize many countries gained independence under her reign right? She allowed them to leave peacefully.
@@kitty2527 Who gave Genghis Khan permission to control all of Asia?
@@MrDoom885 That means to say his influence in South East Asia is really unfelt.
That last line though! Trevor is a master comedian, speaking serious truth to power!
ya so funny he has been fired🤣
@@davebrookbank4831 Cry about it.
“people have this strange reverence for fame”. Truth! How does that happen? I keep thinking if I’m going to mourn the death of strangers, I’ll mourn the humble and oppressed, like children dying from malnutrition or preventable diseases.
Noah is the only comedian/late night host that always give a moment of sober reflection and in a fun way too. He's always making vital points that is really hard for anyone with a brain to argue about. He walks the very thin lines of "serious but fun" perfectly. This is why I love watching his daily show. Keep it up 🙂
Bullseye 🎯
It's not hard to give sober reflections when you're painfully not funny,
When you realize that there is a huge difference between funny haha, and observational intellectual humour.. A whole world will open up to you.
Ironic that now he has to leave the show! A coincidence?
Not really. He's racist at heart. He will find a way to support "black culture" and always make fun of "whites". He did it in a "funny" way which is not funny. You can look at all his interview or any of his talk, notice that he will always find a way to underplay whites and glorify black in a subtle and "funny" way. The thing is, you will never find him respect heartfully white people. He's racist at heart and he knows
Thank you for giving a voice to what the colonies feel.
Yes thankfully, MODY is doing great job for Bharat
@@nandandesai6524 What did you think of the queens passing?
Noah is ignorant.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Which colonies? They would be in the dark ages if they had not been colonized. Some, like India still are. Other Asians still think India is a horrible place with open sewers and huge rats.
@@SipLeila 👀
Trevor is so unique, and so valuable, in the current talk show model: most (all? John Oliver may be an exception) are singularly focused on the humor. Everything they do serves the joke. While Trevor is of course very funny, his balanced but sharp eloquence and ability to explain very complex and nuanced situations is the star of the show, for me. It brings the most value to my life, and I think the country. These outtakes often highlight that.
He brings a singularly unique perspective that at the same time highlights the underlying issues. He's just fantastic.
I totally agree!!!!! Not just for the country but for the world! I've been watching his show for the past 3 or so years and always seems so right! There are certainly things my opinion differs on but it's such a way that he makes us understand both sides of an argument and get us a middle ground. Trevor is an international treasure.
Well said! "Balanced but sharp eloquence" describes his style perfectly!
Yeah l know right:Trevor's a gem;)*!!!
Definitely a keeper,he's blessed with his perfect comic timing,intelligent,unpretentious n kind!Obviously an all rounder n a perfect gentleman!Really a rare find*
I was with a friend when the news of the queen's death got released. I had a little bit of sympathy while my friend had none. Our conversation went like this:
"The queen died? About time"
"Hey you can't say things like that. A person just died"
"Oh you and your sympathy towards old people"
"She was someone's grandma!"
"Her people colonised other peoples' grandmas!"
I was left with no words XP
as he strutted away wearing shoes made by children and slaves in Asia no doubt.
@@johndough23 nice deflecting
Can she never rest my grandfather suffered during her reign
#nigeria and it's creation is the BIGGEST insult and the most RACIST thing done to the
#Biafran
#Oyo-Dahomey
#Benin
#Kanem/Borno
People's
End colonial British presence in Africa
@@johndough23 be whiter 🤪
I love the way you explain it. It's so respectful, logical,well articulated and so effective.
That was such a diplomatic and assertive monologue of respecting other's point of reference.
Yeah he walked that line PERFECTLY without being disrespectful.
@@KO-OG-Passport-Bro-1997 you’re exactly right. I was embarrassed and ashamed of Stephen Colbert‘s monologue about the queen. He showed no respect, not just for a queen but for anyone who passes on . I’m sure if someone spoke like he did and left if his mother passed away he certainly wouldn’t like it. But then! Lately I’ve lost a lot of respect for Colbert. He seems to have let fame go to his head . I used to like & admire him but, not so much anymore.
I was just arguing with a Brit about this. He was angry at me for saying the same things Trevor is saying here, plus the fact that the new "king," a billionaire who never worked a day in his life, refused to pay for the pomp and circumstance of his mother's funeral, even as Britain is devolving into a Third Would country where food banks have to be set up for the doctors and nurses who can't afford to eat or pay their outrageous energy bills. He responded by saying that the monarchy was "worth it" because the whole world was envious of the UK's fine traditions and liveried footmen. Which then segued into dude defending the British police arresting people for holding up cardboard signs saying, "Not My King." The whole country is in the grip of a deep psychosis, caught between a ruling class and its supporters desperately nostalgic for the old empire and those who are desperate that something be done about the 45 million Brits--3/4ths of the population!--who are living under the official poverty level. To make things even worse, a new Prime Minister has just been selected, not elected, by a the ruling class behind closed doors. A Prime Minister who everyone agrees is the dumbest, most unqualified person ever to hold that office, precisely when the UK is in the deepest crisis since WWII. Pure insanity.
It's pathetic, isn't it?
Great analysis
I am shocked to see that he does not even care about his own people. I never understood how one could logically the monarchy, but this is a whole new level
For this I (me being Swedish) see embarrassing parallels with the 19th century conservative Swedish culture - Sweden used to be a regional power but lost that position (and the economy) in the early 1800s, and then our culture and politicians yearned for the lost glory pomp and power. It took Sweden to approximately 1900-WW1 to get over the phantom-pains. UK had to give up the empire after WW2 - so it might take them some 30-40 years more to get over themselves and realise. It will be interesting to observe.
"...because the whole world was envious of the UK's fine traditions and liveried footmen". What a poor reason for supporting the monarchy. Apart from that I strongly doubt it's even true.
100% respectful and true! Thank you, Trevor.
Beautifully said... given all the suffering South Africa has suffered, you were remarkably sensitive. Me? My heritage is Irish and so I almost posted a video of the crowd at a soccer match in Dublin singing "Lizzy's in a Box"...
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Trevor is so thoughtful and articulate. You can feel so many emotions and then watch this show and hear him speak and feel like that's what I feel.
Preach, Trevor. I've seen people who didn't even know the Queen's last name last week suddenly become emotionally affected authorities on British royalty this week. It's annoying.
Wait, the british queen had a last name?
@@bz7672 Mountbatten-Windsor.
@@junkyatv it was meant to be a joke. Though it does seem I was partially wrong about the last name. I only knew the Windsor part. Oh well, not like it's my royal family.
Her last name's 'Elizabeth' - first name 'Queen'.
Noah is ignorant.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
Finally someone who highlights the issue.
Ah Trevor. You forgot Ireland, the original colony. Exactly the same sentiments.
Indeed, the Irish were treated by the English colonialists as if they were slaves.
So grateful I'm an American. Our only king is Elvis.
I completely agree with Trevor’s opinion. Why would anybody even think about her death? It’s not like she was some national hero who did something heroic for which she should be worshipped. She was just there. In contrary besides representing Great Britain she also embodies the cruelties of the British empire, under which’s suppression many colonies suffered and they and their next generation have not recovered from. Of course if she is some icon and role model for you you can’t help it, because sadness is not an emotion you can control but the past can’t be forgotten that’s why it shouldn’t appear unordinary for somebody not mourning her death
The thing is (and I say this as an Anglophile), you cannot make some of the British people, especially those who only view the royal family through the celebrity lens, understand this point. To them, she was a public figure first, and a human being second. Many of them don´t even make the last step and acknowledge that, like everyone else, she was a deeply flawed human being. Also, I think the sense of superiority of the British Empire is still rooted too deeply in some people, which does hold the UK back and will do for some time.
Personally, that is what I struggle with the most. I understand that the British culture is very ceremony-heavy, but I find the amount of exposure here a bit tasteless (given that I find mourning to be a personal affair), and frankly unnecessary. I´d understand the need for a procession and some kind of a mass or memorial service. But the whole "lying in state" business and the endless queues to see a closed coffin of a stranger is just beyond me. The whole thing has a distinctly medieval vibe to it.
Trevor. Thank you for being the voice for so many of us!
Nice !
Trevor is a virtue signaling joke
@@tioswift3676 he can signal me all day long
@@madhukrishnann weird
@@tioswift3676 he goes for truth
Thank you for this! Someone I know used to RUTHLESSLY bully my brother. Later on, he committed suicide over a girl. I felt for his family but people wanted me to feel bad... but I didn't. The same thing happened to one of my bullies... sort of, she either had a panic attack or seizure and coudn't get on the school bus one moring, she was fine, alive and well, so why should I care? I don't care about bad people. My heart goes out to the family of course, I'm not heartless, but it'd be messed up to tell people who have endured hatred from someone to push it all aside because they died or whatever.
i understand your point. My grandfather just passed away, he molested me when i was a kid. My whole family knew about it but didn't do anything. Now, they want me to mourn for him.
ngl had to reread your first sentences, and was wondering why you didn't feel bad over your brother committing suicide over a girl- then realized you were referring to the bully
@@bats9218 😂😂 No but seriously me and him just got into a car wreck and he was unscathed while I broke my arm and needed surgery and also had an abrasion on my eye. I just kept telling everyone how grateful I am that he is ok because we were hit on his side, I was the driver and he the passenger. If my brother ever killed himself I'd feel like I failed as a sibling.
@@princessconsuelabanana-ham8004 I'm so sorry that happened to you and I hope you are healing from your trauma :( I have a couple of old family members I haven't cared about passing, I never had to go through what you did but I was abused by my dad and my stepmom did try overdosing my brother but they kept quiet. Don't let anyone tell you or make you feel bad for not caring about a cruel man who died. Karma always comes around.
I can relate. I have learnt to keep my distance and those whom I wish to share things in common with. Being a Christian, some of these decisions can sometimes be hard but we are all human.
Coming from Kenya, I can honestly say no one here is even talking about the queens death. We gained our independence from Britain about 60 years ago and the impact is still here. The British army literally has a training camp like a mile from my house to this day, and are major landowners in my city, so yeah, there's definitely no mourning going on over here🤷🏾♂️
Speak for your self
@@jodiesheba7326 fair enough. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion at the end of the day. I'm just saying that I haven't encountered anyone mourning her or even talking about her death here. If you are mourning the queen, that's cool, but like Trevor said, not everyone will mourn someone they basically consider their oppressor... Fun fact, the day she became queen, she was right around where I live, which is a stone's throw away from where prince William proposed, and they still own tens of thousands of acres of land here, so there aren't many people shedding tears over here
My grandfather was assainated by the British soldiers on a farm in Kericho, we never got his body back to this very day, my grandmother died never knowing where my granddad's body was, so I concur with you, we lost so much under the crown, who mourns for those who refused to become subjects of the british....we can't mourn the queen....
@@FareeKerubo exactly, and sorry about your grandfather. And let's not forget they killed Dedan Kimathi and never gave us his body either. Yet we're supposed to mourn the person who oversaw literally all of that?! I'll pass
Chege, petition Ruto to get back the lands (needs to happen country wide), what's the point of fertiliser and wheelbaroows without land.
I am a german student and in my opinion everyone should decide on their own whether they want to mourn the queens passing. But if one does, he or she should not force their opinion upon others.
This guy is brilliant. He is articulate and expressive to an extraordinary degree.
He never disappoints.
Protect Trevor at all costs! He is a credit to the human race, and we need his soul on this planet as long as possible.
Protect him from what???
Couldn’t agree with you more!!
@@MN-th1gz you!
@@righteouskongo1 You deserve a 🍪
@@MN-th1gz From people like you, and yes I will say it again, FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU, and now I've double said it 😂
For me as a US citizen, I've never given any attention to the royal family except for Meghan since I was a huge Suits fan. And also as someone born in the 90s, I don't fully understand her reign and the repercussions to so many nations. If the Queen and the monarchy meant something to you, mourn as you will. If it didn't, then don't. I think it's as simple as that to be honest.
Also - she achieved what she did because of her bloodline. So, I mean..
In many ways she achieved what she did DESPITE her bloodline - she oversaw tremendous change to the monarchy during her reign, (although perhaps not all by design) including many former colonies becoming independent nations, while many other chose to remain a part of the commonwealth, a fact that many in this comment section seem to be missing.
@@sumotherdude like I said, I'm not well-versed about her reign and thank you for sharing this! It seems like a lot has changed during her time yet I'm not the one to take that gratitude. I hope that all that were affected can in their own way
@@sumotherdude have you ever heard of the Mau Mau Uprising? Or the Biafra Genocide? The Benin Art? Those happened at her DIRECT intervention. We joined the Commonwealth of Nations under duress. What options did we have? Even now, we are second class to White Commonwealth nations like Canada, Australia and New Zealand. I think you have chosen to selectively filter precisely what he said: those people were MASSACRED even if their countries later gained independence. Colonisers have a really difficult time with empathy. The ENDS do not justify the means. Please stop encouraging the astounding ignorance of the original poster and search your empty soul before calling out other comments.
How can you like Suits? I like Meghan as a person, but Suits is so cliche and badly written.
You realize that, even as a US citizen, you can educate yourself on history so that you CAN understand the repercussions of British colonialism and the monarchy across the world, right?
Love ya Trevor, always speaking the truth. My mother never expressed hatred of the British either, it was sort like, yeah that happened. It was just their life. That doesn’t mean they didn’t commit atrocities and create huge systemic issues that we are still struggling with today
As for "Re-colonizing the people" and "Long live the king" 😂😂😂😂😂
So we’ll said Trevor! Your honesty is refreshing ❤
Oh my!! This is the most sensible and real thing I have heard since September 8th.
Trevor is really at the top of his game recently. So articulate and clearly just being honest. I love how he has an African mother and white father and so really the typical attacks on people sharing his opinion is really difficult to make stick on him.
Thanks you, Trevor, for once again speaking such simple but clear truth. I have never been a British subject or lived in a Commonwealth country. And I understand that a lot of Brits are saying, "I love her for what she did for us during the War." Okay. Fine for you. But outside of the racism and colonialism that the Crown and England in general has never apologised for (and how easy is it to say "I'm sorry"? Netherlands is aplogising for slavery soon. It's just words after all. You can say them easily), her country destabilized the political systems in the Middle East and the world is suffering from those traumas to this day. Why should we mourn the loss of someone who sat by as her country's government lied and cheated to "get Brexit done"? She wouldn't lift a finger to save her own homeland when it needed her most! Someone being a grandmother does not make them a saint. Having children doesn't make you automatically worthy of respect. She was just a rich woman who ignored the horrors going on in the world when she could have waved a hand and lessened some of them. And she bailed out her criminal son from abusing teenage girls. No, I will not mourn her.
Soo well put Trevor and the expectation is actually outrageous i also heard so many story from both grand parent about their childhood and what my great grandparent had to endure nd how British empire effected millions of lives across the Indian subcontinent its a tragedy to say the least they had the audacity to demonize people of color ridiculed our culture language in our Own freaking motherland
Literally uprooted people and left them stranded once they left,and the loss of identity and cultures,its crazy
ur own fing motherland sold u
They came and found a starving group of dirt hut building cave men and left them with education, tools, and modern technology. Decades later they've used what they learned and lifted millions of people out of poverty.
But go on crying as hard as you can. Losers lol.
And continue to steal from these lands to this day.
Very well said 👏👏👏👏…….. absolutely spot on message with no malice or disrespect
You say it clear and respectful, for both sides, I liked that, thumbs up 2 you.. I watched Grandma 😊 when you taped her.. I am a 72 yr old black woman.. proud of you.. bless ur ❤️
“You Can’t Expect People to Show Respect for Something that NEVER Respected them.”
BOOM
Valuable wisdom 🔥🔥🔥🔥
🇦🇬
Thank you. My father died in 1980 and my mother in 2014, and I am yet to receive condolences from the “Royal Family” much less QE II.
🙇🏾♂️
Best comment 👍🏽👏🏽
@@spicybrown75 🇦🇬🙇🏾♂️
Or an acknowledgment or *apology* let alone whisper the word, ‘reparations’.
She literally embodies everything my ancestors struggled under, I couldn’t care less
Don't you see a shift from when she took the post to the today's? It's not like today India's people are called "British subject".
@@anzelmasmatutis2500 She never acknowledged the damage her country caused, which is still very much a part of individuals' lives all over the world. Why should we mourn the person who did that and didn't care?
She doesn't embody anything anymore.
Can chuck let Ireland unit please.
It could have been worse. They could have been french...
"You can not expect people to show respect for Something
That never respected them "
So true❤️ Love Trevor and quite honestly he said it politely. She was a grandmother but was responsible for many others to die and suffer.
Oh, quit it. Jealous woman.
So well spoken.. respect to you for being honest🙏🙏
Trevor can not talk without every other sentence being a hard punch, even right before the clip cuts! Love you sir.
This was so well put and properly explained. If only enough people understood this.
You right.
It's amazing how bold you bring this reality. kudos Trevor ♥ ♥ ♥.
I don't think I've ever heard the queen ever apologized for anything the crown did in the past
In fact she lived a long, happy and healthy life that was funded by the trillions they took away from their colonies in their past.
So should white people apologize to black people for what our ancestors did? Should the current German PM apologize to the Jewish people?
We don't expect presidents to apologize for things previous presidents did. All I'm seeing is completely brain dead comments on this page from people who have no common sense.
@@sheldoncoffelt1891 We absolutely do expect presidents and heads of state to apologize on behalf of the nation when they've done something heinous in the past. Whether it's Germany on account of the Holocaust or Australia on account of the genocide of Aboriginals or the US on account of the Internment of Japanese Citizens or Slavery and Jim Crow. State or National Apologies are a thing and are something we should fight for as a minimum, if not for reparations.
@@sheldoncoffelt1891 This man has brain worms of course we do, literally they do it all the time, all heads of state and religions do, the pope apologised for abuses under the last pope, because the institution is responsible not the person running it.
South Africans must be proud of him. I'm north African and I'm proud of him
Once again Trevor shows his wisdom intelligence and his willingness to say truths that others deny. And he does it with grace and incomparable humor!!
Absolutely love these in between scenes --honest, real.
I wish you had a show that wasn't comedy based just for discussing issues with your peers. I find most of this world lacks common sense and you have plenty to share. Thank you.
Totally agree...we do need that and you would find that the discussion is more like a Therapy that heals,makes us laugh, understand each other as a Human race..regardless of background.
Trevor, quite insightful! You are making your family proud thru the truth of generations!
Trevor can totally put my thoughts into words. Thank you Trevor.
Bullseye 🎯
thank you for explaining this so beautifully. i don't get the hype over her death, i shrug my shoulders to be honest. the fact that her death is causing so many to mourn is incredibly weird to me.
And long live you too, Trevor - your wisdom makes you truly a king among men.
"You can't expect people to show respect for something that never respected them." Trevor Noah. This specific show resonates with billions of people, Noah! No one has the right, let alone the oppressor, to define, and prescribe how and when you choose to express your grief, pain, and suffering at the hands of an oppressor.
But she did show those countries and people respect, she didn't go out and colonise them. She inherited an empire of oppressed people but took many actions to try and reduce the harm done and visited those countries and leaders to hear them out. She never refused a call for independence and ordered the navy to resubjucate the people.
The historical institution may have disrespected them but as far as I am aware the queen in her role and as a person never did
@@puckelberry she inherited it and CONTINUED British rule . The only reason they stopped is because the empire started to fall if they had the same power we probably still would be under British rule. It wasn't a favour they did giving us independence, there's a reason most our countries have red to represent those who died fighting for independence.
It’s white people rewriting history to act like they didn’t cause atrocities
Nothing new
@@puckelberry did you know that the queen visited a recently independent India and the people there were holding their breath for her to at least apologized for the jallianwala bagh massacre, where a British general open fired on a peaceful gathering of people after blocking the exit. did you know what the Britishers' initial response was? the said was that he was doing his duty. it was one of the most inhumane things to ever happen and all he got was a tap on the wrist while countless innocent people lost their lives and a country was left scared. this incident was the beginning of the end of British rule. the queen didn't give us our independence our leaders and ancestors took it by starving themselves and rebelling against British rule. this is only one account of the atrocities committed by the Britishers in India. so don't insult the efforts of our freedom fighters who sacrificed their lives to get us our independence by saying that the queen gave us our freedom. she came to visit India in 1997 and she went to jallianwala bagh but never said sorry or apologized on the behalf of British empire for the murderous act. and her husband after reading the plague that consisted of people who died there during the massacre, had the audacity to say that it's a bit exaggerated and the list is so big because it must have included the wounded ones. and then goes on to say he is sure of it because he was told about this killing by the son of the man who was responsible for this murderous act.
Great way to put in in perspective! We have to remember Other peoples experiences give them a different perspective than what you may have.
Noah is ignorant.
There are many minorities (Native Americans) in the US who do have English blood - and Scottish and French blood from the Hudson's Bay Company trappers and adventurers. Maybe Noah should do some studying of American and Canadian history????
They married and later came down to the US - they were the first immigrants to Oregon - in the 1830's.
When aliens come and say "take me to your leader", we are sending them straight to you Trevor 🤣🤣🤣 You are the only one capable to reason with all kinds of species and make sense of things that we find difficult to explain 👊🏾
The accuracy! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂 I'm with you on this one.
seconded! lol
😂😂😂
yes!
Well said Mr. Noah! Thank you
"that's someone's grandma, show some respect" ..... like her victims didn't have family.
Yes, it's very complex. I feel for her loved ones and it really feels like an end of an era. I respected her as a human being but I'm not blind to what the British monarchy meant for so many people. I'm Pākehā - white, born and raised in Aotearoa New Zealand - but I recognise that for Māori who are the indigenous people here, being colonised was a painful and oppressive experience. Institutional racism still exists. I don't personally experience it but I respect that for many, it is a major issue. The Queen represented all of that even if she personally wasn't responsible for colonisation.
The Queen is not accountable for the policies of her monarchy? YOU’re not blind? Okay
@@alicejenkinsmail she wasn't even alive when many places were being colonised! Yes, the Crown can be held accountable, but she wasn't personally responsible for the colonisation because she was literally not alive.
My ancestors fleed from the tyranny of that monarchy. My country fought a war to be free of that monarchy. Now I watch long lines of people waiting to see her coffin. That's bizarre.
Which country was that? Burma?
As someone from a former British colony, I agree with everything said here. Thank you, Trevor, for putting it so well
I'm similar to Trevor, being mixed with parents from Africa and Europe and having grown up in between cultures from different continents, I share the same perspective. On one hand I am sad, yes that the Queen died, as a symbol, as a constant but at the same time I can't ignore what her rule and relatives have done to my African ancestors and even though independence was obtained, people are still struggling with the fallout of collonial times.
You should stop using English and adopt the language of your people.
@@johndough23 First off, English is my second language of 6 that I speak. In this day and age, we live in a interconnected world, isolating ourselves to a single, regional language is just not practical nor wise; particularly, from a business, touristic, professional standpoint English is the language of the world. So why would I limit myself that way?! It is one thing to value our roots, it is another to be backward and ignorant, that's just not constructive and practical.
Thank you for saying this 💚. The Caribbean appreciates you.
Malaysian here, we gained independence in 1957. I guessed in a way, a lot of us in the ex colonies are still reeling from the effects of British colonialism. And a significant number in Middle East and Africa got the most brunt of it, as what Trevor Noah just implied. We are seeing these effects till this day.
And the British Empire used the idea and the symbolism of The Crown 👑 to achieved their goals of conquest, plunder and the famous British divide and conquer for colonisation. Thus, some of us do not see the idea of the Queen's passing as a day of mourning, rather an end of an era , the symbol of The Crown as a vestigial institution of the past empire.
Anyways, Selamat Hari Malaysia 🇲🇾 (Malaysia day 16th September) and my condolences to the Queen's family and UK