Why YouTubers Keep Breaking the New Tacoma
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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somebody with common sense on youtube?
Unbelievable, right!😅
Finally, a youtuber who understands off-roading and the capabilities of their truck. Thank you
@chadedwards6643 Thanks for your kind words... Keyboard-Overlander commentary on these incidents is quite amusing 😆
I know, finally someone intelligible!
This is why your channel is the best on UA-cam!! Real advice!! No fake news here!!! Love this channel!! 🙌🏼👍🏼❤️
@maddog8148 wow thank you for those kind words! 🥲 ❤️
Finally a reviewer that knows what he is talking about....so very refreshing ❤
Really love this channel. Spot on. Experience is relative. I always say 15 years of experience is not equal to 15 x 1 year of experience. Some people just got stuck at one point and repeats itself the rest of their lives. Learning is crucial. Attitude is how to use it. No age to stop learning.
@FullTimeGT Thank you for your happy comments. Humility and a willingness to learn are important vs the number of yeats existing in stubbornness ❤️
Accountability… what a novel idea! I was glad to see the drivers called out after the blame game. No biggie to say, hey channel..my fault. Goes a long way with credibility. Thanks for another great video!
Your earlier videos on how to off road with your GX is what led me here. I will watch them again when I get a GX lol. Excellent video.😊
The rules to off-roading are enforced with a broken axle
@@Goodmanperson55 😆 😭
I just found your channel. Watched this and the tundra video. I love the clarity, solid explanations, and lack of the UA-cam hype train. Keep up the good work.
@@joshuaschecter thank you 🙏 for your kind words
Excellent video! Most UA-camrs just want to get on here and bash Toyota, idk why.
Ok where did you find the unsolved mysteries song with metal guitars?
Thank you for putting things in perspective.
@@santiagovillarreal6647 Thank you for your support 🙏 ❤️
Your not an airplane had me in stitches 😂😂
I watched one guy put the truck in 4 low and did a launch on pavement. I could not watch anymore after that crap.
@@arifjonas zomg! which one was that? 😆 🤣
Amazing it held up considering the pathetic failure of TFL's truck. I'm sure all the excuses used to defend Toyota's fragile drivetrain wouldn't be accepted if it were any other brand's truck breaking before it make it onto the trail.
I learned a lot in this video. Being honest here. I’m new to the off-roading world and all my experience has been in my trusty FJ80 3FE. From my perspective it’s still pretty absurd that just selecting a different mode is the reason behind these fails. Because if that is the case, how under designed are these components? Where is the safety factor here? It’s just not confidence inspiring.
@@calembo7124 Not absurd. 100% normal indeed. ROCK and ICE are polar opposites! MTS thinks it's ROCK crawling, while the driver is flooring it uphill on ice in 4L... 😆
Perfectly explained.
Great points as usual…… Keep Grinding!!!!! ✌🏾👍🏾
TFL has a huge audience. I said they abused the blueberry taco a day after they posted their video. I received
Comments like “you’re joking right!”
@parkerds10 McDonald's has a huge audience too. The majority likes crap 😉
I am so glad this man has stated the real facts 😎🤝🏾👍🏾 excellent video am so glad I both me a 2024 Tacoma
Appreciate that ❤️ ✌️ 😃
Knowledgeable and funny. Unsolved mysteries outro, lol
Very good explanation on these two "mistakes " by amateurs, although the hosts in the first incident are supposed to be experts. I applaud you're tactfulness . 😂❤😊
@erickim2025 popular yes... experts, no... thank you for your support and happy comment 😀
lol the time they were supposed to use 4 low is when they were towing up a steep grade off road trail im talking about tfl towing and they were wondering why the trans was overheating 😂
@EdmundHeye yep!! I forgot about those times 😆 🤣... yes... you are spot on again here! ❤️ as a n00b I made the same mistakes in the past! Wasn't the car's fault 😆 😂
But but but its Toyota falt not mine 😂😂😂
Thank you.
….but, but, but those individual that broke the blue taco are experts, they off road all the time. 😅
@@pireina1 a lot than u do
With your four wheel drive tape player
TFL have more money than brains. I said they abused the blueberry taco a day after they posted their video. I received
Comments like “you’re joking right!”
Exactly Right !!
@@Glennoutdoors 🙏 ❤️
Very good explanation about 4x4 😊
Torque is only present when there is resistance in the opposite direction to rotation in a shaft component. If their is no traction/friction no torque. What really f’s a truck up is the sudden resistance to that rotation. Which in this case would shock the system.
@calembo7124 which is exactly why you don't spin on ice, in 4L while flooring it uphill in ROCK mode
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD yes, but the axle and diff would never experience a higher torque than the one max produced by the drivetrain in question. Thus, the components were NOT designed to meet said specs. How can you sell a product that can fail with the stock components that you sold? What will happen when you change to 33” inch tires? What will happen when you change gear ratios? A lift? All of these greatly reduce the life expectancy of a vehicle, and are all considered when designing a system. What I’m trying to say is, it all points to a lack of redundancy in the design.
I have a 1986 22re, and a 92 FJ80. All greatly underpowered but their components were over engineered so that the design was capable of working safely for many types of use. I have 35 inch tires in the fj80, and still haven’t had issues with a diff… so how is it possible that a brand new truck just pops one because oh no, I pressed rock 😔
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Yet the other brand of truck had zero issues with it.
You're right. Totally.
I did get something out of these videos, though.
Toyota has not designed their computerized stuff to be idiot proof.
The traction control system shouldn't have done what it did. By applying the brakes and power at the same time with no traction, it broke itself.
My SR5 would not break if I went up that obstacle in 4Lo, simply because there's no computer doing that stuff.
The same goes with the rev matching when you go 5 to 1. The computer should sense this and protect the truck from self-destructing. Again, this wouldn't happen without the rev match.
You're absolutely correct. These were driver errors. However, it was the computer systems that turned them destructive to the vehicle.
With my regular, non-computerized, manual shift Tacoma and Jeep, these aren't problems. I can feel it if I ever accidentally do go 5 to 1 at speed, and I just disengage the clutch.
You're absolutely right. You're also right about the marketing. This stuff is not sold as features to assist skilled drivers, but rather to replace the need for skills. Rev matching isn't meant for people who aren't skilled manual drivers, but I think it's sold as if it is. The marketing needs to change.
@barrydworak At some point personal responsibility is a must. A computer can't lock you out of a physical 5 to 1 downshift at 60mph. The driver didn't feel for the clutch engagement loke most dovers do... he CLUTCH DUMPED it... which is why he destroyed the car. 4L and ROCK MODE... again how is Toyota supposed to ensure a driver knows the difference between rocks and ice? They can only dumb down and babysit people so much... then it's on them... again personal responsibility...
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD true. This stuff was the drivers' fault. The way they should have presented it was, "We were dumb. The fancy computerized features didn't stop us from being dumb."
Still, good code should prevent at least some of these self-destruction issues. 5 to 1 at 60 and dumping the clutch? Probably can't fix that! Without rev matching, that can still grenade things.
My perspective is shaped in part by my old job developing CMS database systems. I was lucky in that I was in the same office as the users. I quickly learned that I could test the thing all I wanted, and not find many bugs, but within 5 minutes of turning some code loose on an end-user, they'd crash it hard. I got to the point where I would waste little of my own time testing. I would just have the most clueless salesperson try the thing as soon as it sort of worked. Then I could fix all the bugs right away. Saved weeks of development time. 🙂
Engineers and programmers simply never do to machines, what end users do. We can't put ourselves in the place of a real idiot at the controls. We know too much about what happens inside the machine.
If I worked on that project, I would try to find the dumbest, most aggressive teenage drivers I could, and have them get behind the wheel on and off road. Then make sure the computer won't cause the vehicle to self destruct.
That's the only way to really know.
Of course, I have to ask, should someone who drives like the dumbest, most aggressive teenager, be a vehicle reviewer on UA-cam like these guys? That's another question. 😁
Another great video I couldn’t stop laughing low mode, trying to get up an icy wall😂😂😂😂🎉
@@MarkH0508 preach!! 🙌 👏 🙏
Spot on!
Go ahead and fellate each other now.
I totally agree with you on the down shift mistake was probably operator error. The ADD break on the ice should have nothing to do with being in 4 low, a vehicle should be able to handle that torque, the tires were just spinning on ice. Its not like he was spinning his tires at a high rate of speed and hit dry pavement. That ADD should be able to handle that, a drive line should break before the ADD. But new vehicles are a lot weaker than older ones when it comes to wheeling.
@jeffray2071 4L flooring it on ice is NEVER OK. You forgot the Rock-Mode part. Which is basically ATRAC. It's trying to brake the spinning wheel instantly. Spinning on ice is never ok... no matter the vehicle... back up and speed up the ice in a mode/configuration that ALLOWS wheel spin... Rock-mode/ATRAC don't allow wheelspin. User error.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I guess I'm just use to my 85 toyotas where I can wheel it in 4 hi/4 lo and spin the tires as much as I want and things just don't break. I don't understand why new vehicles have to have all these modes/electronic 4wd switches. Just seems like more things to break. Thanks for the reply and keep up the good content.
I agree…it shouldn’t have broken so easy. Tiny stock tires on ice…
I watched your other video on why Toyota won’t let you have front-lockers……and this video explains why, again, Toyota keeps dumbing down their vehicles. 😂
Yeah the guy on UA-cam that decided to do the down shift had me in stitches 😂😂😂.
@DF-ec9de "Poppa don't take no mess!" 🎶 🎵
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Then he had the nerve to ask if it was my fault or Toyota's. 🤣🤣
I don't think they intended to break them and most people cannot understand how much torque was put on the front driveshaft on the TFL video. The V6 likely could not generate enough torque to break it, but the turbo does. For some reason youtubers (not the ones who broke them) are trying to generate some views by spreading negative info on Tacoma. The price is often criticized. The sales of Tacoma were expected to be down after introducing a new generation but Tacoma has sold 69,500 Tacoma's in the first 6 months of the year. Tacoma still led the midsize truck segment for 1st half of the year.
inside job? 😮
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I didn't mean the ones who broke them. I think they were one offs but the average viewer goes into a mindset that they shouldn't break ever and it's becuase it is built in mexico or toyota is cutting corrners or some similar nonsense.
A money-shift is all on the driver. You never spin the tires on ice, that’s all on the driver too. Tires spinning on ice then catching on a rock will break something on the strongest axles.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q *_say it louder!!_* ❤️
It's ok, if you want views and make money off those views. That's the logic behind automotive youtube videos today.
@@M85Iroc inside jobs!!
I love this channel. My brother from another Mother! Shout out from TN! If you're ever in my area drinks and eats on me my friend. Love the content
@@YotaDaryl 🙏 ❤️ thanks for your kind support 🙏 ❤️
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Yes sir!
I do believe some of the stuff you are saying. I think I know fursure toyota is knowing how your car is being driven. So be careful how you break in your truck.
This is truly a fantastic “spin” to try and protect Toyota. The new Toyotas are not designed to be heavily 4-wheeled. Go to the serious trails in Moab Utah and look at the vehicles on the trails….older Toyotas and Jeeps.
@DUNEATV The Tacoma is on the same platform as the TNGAF Landcruiser 300... too late to claim it can't be "heavily 4-wheeled" the platform is from 2021 and has already been "heavily 4-wheeled" around the world
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD We will see…
In the manual it actually says that the vehicle records, ions, and vehicle inputs from the driver. There’s a disclaimer in the manual that says that it can use this to determine fault and or judicial cases were facts. Need to be established. 😂😂😂. This is absolutely nothing new because I remember back in the day when the Mitsubishi Evo came out if you were dragracing it or auto crossing it and the engine blew up the technicians could pull up the dialogues and see the conditions that the vehicle under and void engine replacement Happened numerous times in Columbus, Ohio
This is correct. THe ECU will provide all the data to Toyota. When Roman spoke to Sheldon, Sheldon knew every detail of what he did on the hill in Colorado just as they know they missed the downshift on the manual transmission.
@@planoman0935 yup
True!😂
OK, some good points but You can't escape the following: Turbo's have many more parts, More heat and more stress and that's a good enough reason not to but one!!!
Toyota's been doing turbos engines for 40 years... they ALL lasted "forever"
Am I the only one who feels like 5th to 3rd going 60 wouldve a terrible idea as well? Like you should have slowed down to like 30 or at least 40 to go into third right?
@noahd4039 A 5-3 downshift is way more reasonable and conventional... however a tactical clutch-dump at 60mph is risky at best... a 5,4,3 row... relatively quickly would be the sane move.... letting off the clutch SLOW while feeling/listening to make sure you were in 3rd and not 1st would've been the conventional move... but since the clutch was dumped into gear there was no way for the driver to feel/listen to ensure he was in the correct gate... which is why tactotard shifting usually ends at age 15 more most people
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD yeah thats kinda what I'm getting at. I feel like auto rev matching is giving people a false sense of security. I feel like it's there to assist you not so much do all the work for you its still a manual transmission after all. I haven't driven a stick truck in a while but if I dumped the clutch on my bike going 60 from 5th to 3rd auto rev matching or not, im crashing haha
I believe they intentionally broke them to trash the new Tacoma all over YT.
@@1SFOD espionage? inside job? spies/moles from a domestic brand?
I had a 2001 Tacoma S-runner manual transmission and sometimes I made a mistake shifting from 5 to 1 or 2 speed and it didn't go through and it made noisy sounds letting you know that not OK, BUT THE CLUTCH STILL WORKING, I DIS FOR MANY TIMES.
Lol, someone went 5 to 1 at speed? I need to find this.
@@oni-one574 prepare your popcorn 🍿 😆
Thank you for this. Needed to be said!
I am not convinced Truck King placed the gear from 5th to 1st. I watched that video few times and convinced it is quality issue with the Tacoma manual transmission.
Then read the comments after lol it’s so funny! Ppl really are dumb when it comes to engines and cars
The dad on Truck King tried to go 5th to 3rd and missed lol
The problem with these UA-camchannels they drive the tacoma above the capability of what it was designed for but You’re right they’re uneducated UA-camrs they don’t know the capability or the limits the vehicle they’re testing off-road or on road as well on another note with the Tacoma’s is they are small trucks compared Ford f150 and Chevy Silverado and ram 1500
@wilyceyote so true and even with a locked solid front axle (those shafts are just as skinny as a CV axle inside those big tubes)...ice skating in 4L uphill full throttle might not make for a happy outcome
Evidently driving the Tacoma on icy, rocky terrain that a CHEVY just successfully drove over is now "above the capability of what [the Tacoma] was designed for."
Lol your funny
lol at Dindo nuthin wrong lol 😂
@@enjoytheridedude 😆 🤣
they're breaking them due to Toyota budget cutbacks . now being cobbled together in Mexico for $2.50 an hour to Ford standards 🤣🤣🤣
explain the Tundra exploding engines.
He tried to explain the Tundra's garbage engine. He jumped at the opportunity to work as Toyota's PR rep for free. "oh it was manufacturing debris!" Yet he can't explain why Toyota revised the short block assembly earlier this year by changing two of the bearings. The block is the same, crank is the same, pistons are the same, connecting rods are the same. The only changes were two of the main journal bearings. Why would Toyota change the bearings guys? This clown told us it was absolutely due to "debris" and nothing to do with the bearings. I guess he better contact ToMoCo to let them know they should go back to the original bearings, because he knows for a fact that it was all just debris left in the engine by some lazy American!
lol just figured out why the diff broke because of Atrac and atrac is more aggressive in rock mode so programming to make atrac less aggressive will prevent future damage to diff makes sense
@@EdmundHeye It broke because they were in ROCK mode on ICE.
There's only one thing you forgot to mention there dune guy,
@tfltruck helpful tips?