I purchased my unit during the first covid lock down and its been one of my favourite bits of kit since then. Built like a tank, it is now used in every jam setup I make. I am seriously considering a second unit. Because you can never have enough knobs.
Thanks for this video - I just bought the MX12 and was struggling to program it based on the manual, but as this unit is programmed in the same way, it’s shown me exactly how to manage the process. Cheers!
I always wanted something like that, but the lack of visuals is what puts me off. At this price some type of LED guides on the knobs (APC style) should be included. Also i would add at least one LED/OLED strip above each of the 3 sections (like the old Novation SL) to display some information about the knobs. I would also want the knobs to be touch-sensitive so i can see in that LED strip what i am about to control. Combined with the LED-Ring i would always know what is going on as i move through my VST instances... It could display pan position, volumes, step sequences, ... loads of more options. I would happily pay 499 for such a device. I get that it's a niche product, but it doesn't have to be if the interface is more accessible. It then will make sense to many more people (and beginners). By the way, i think a modulation ribbon at the left side would be a nice touch (think Push/S-series). Okay, enough dreaming. I hope we will get a marvelous little unit like that one day.
hi, great video, thanks! Is the knobs has the center notch? For instance if I map to Balance parameter, it'd be nice to have the center notch to know the value is exact in the middle without looking at the screen. Some of the novation boxes has this but they only offer 8 ch. I need at least 10 for my setup and good to have future proof of extra 2.
Very good video, i would like to know if it s possible to assign inside a preset different midi channel for each knobs Also how many midi channel can manage the usb on this machine. Thank you :)
Hi, thanks for the video. I have both the mx12 and pc12 but cannot get the two to work together in Ableton. I do have the crossover Ethernet which powers both units but only the unit that is connected via usb will send midi info to Ableton. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
Thank you for all your video, there the best,,,, I want the best controler for my virtual synth ( V9 collection, komplete ultimate… ) is pc 12 still the best or ther is another wich is even better ?? Thank you
unless you need all these knobs, but best controller for those are the ones made by their respective companies. if you have both you need to decide which you use more...
a little bit of advice would help as I can't find anything online, the PC12 has 7 bit just like the PC4. Is 14 bit significantly better? I like the idea of 24 knobs rather than 16 on the EC4.
Hi! Very interesting video! Would love to see a similar one with Faderfox and Deluge! :) It's just too bad that the faderfox doesn't have 16 buttons (in order to also use it as sequencer) and endless encoders! That would make this thing massive!!! (PS: Could you elaborate how you do to learn so much different and diverse gear within the short time that there is between the release time of all those machines....? And what is a good approach for beginners?) :) Keep up the good work. Lot's of respect for what you do!!!
For endless encoders check out the Faderfox EC12 (EC = Encoder Controller, PC = Pot Controller), the same functionality but with 49 encoders instead of 72 pots, a bunch more buttons though :D
What if you return t a snapshot and then touch a knob. Is the knob in its sound place or.. Is it where the line is placed? I dont know how to say this correctly. But it happens a lot with these things?
Anyone using this with Kontakt or U-He? I’m in Studio One Pro 5 Windows 10. Would I save a scene per instrument in Kontakt? Might be problematic as I have hundreds of Kontakt libraries. Looking for a non-mouse solution.
Are they endless encoders , or just pots that need to be reset if you change pages? The old Behringer BCF might still be more useful if they’re only pots (which by the dial they appear to be)
Hi All, would greatly appreciate some help with this device is someone is able? Im trying to send data on different ports, like you might with Kontakt or Halion (eg port A channels 1-16 and port B channel 1-16). Thinking that might be able to do via 'routing' but cant work it out. Thanks in advance, Jon
@@buscandolaverdad8686 look up faderfox EC4. its like 300$ give or take. you can map up to 4000 knobs lol. Theres a dude on here called Tubedigga that uses it. pretty dope. connected to the mpc. seems so practical.
sorry it's a tough one to help with remotely :/ try and isolate the problem (say, map a different controller), if that works, contact faderfox tech support
It's a cool controller and the demo is good. But I'm afraid without any information on each knob and with configuration switching I'll certainly lose my head and don't remember which button is assigned to which machine/effect/soft or hardware... I bought so much controllers that end in the rubbish for this reason (or are used by spiders to trap insects in a corner of my studio). The ultimate controller is not far from this one : juste add 4 more columns of buttons (16 instead of 12) and above all, find a way to display near each button the name of the device and its corresponding parameter. I'm sure after a while "Configuration #25, Row #2 button, Column #3" will never make sense again to me... Of course other enhancements can be added for almost no money (as it is a digital controller with a cpu and a software embedded) : add a trigger mode to program drums and a sequencer mode to program synths. Thus such a machine, even a bit more expansive will be perfect. One more thing : one button = one function. Each machine has its own sophisticated combinations to enter menus or submenus, even the very analog Mother 32 sequencer is a hell when you don't use it every day, Aira Sytem 1m has also its own tricks, every machines is built with secret functions needing to remember esoteric button combinations... So : 16 columns, name of devices and parameters on all buttons. One button for One function. And perhaps some triggers sequencer and poly sequencer extra mode. And the Ultimate Controller will be born ! This one is a good step in the right direction. Hoping other steps will be done in the future !
Yes, agreed. I also can't stand when I get firmware updates for gear I allready have, introducing new functions with knob combinations that you have to remember the hell out of.
I wonder why nobody seems to offer controllers with the displays over the knobs (or even knob sets) that you mention. Certainly LCD displays are dirt cheap these days. I keep waiting for this on controllers, but the only place you see them are on MIDI foot stomps for guitar...
Yes it is strange to create such zillion-button-controller and forgetting that without display it will be unusable. I can't imagine remembering all correspondences between the controller buttons and my synths buttons. Even my very old UC-33, an early midi controller, had some removable cheat sheet with the name of each buttons for some of best known synths . Very strange thought process.
how good would it be to have an little tablet or monitor above the midi controller dedicated to representing the VST instrument. and then a seperate main monitor for Ableton. like if the Arturia Mini Moog had the ability to CAST to another monitor device or somthing from within the ableton window.
Thank you for the video. There are no good videos online featuring the Faderfox MX12, so I wonder if you planned on that in the future? I could understand if they are too similar therefore redundant to demo.
can presets be changed via incoming midi programchange? ie have a midi track in daw that stores and ‘play back’ the snapshots to the pc12 according to a tracks timeline? also any way to assign macros to buttons? (combinations on midi / key strokes shortcus)?
how about controlling multiple instruments from one snapshot, for example eq plugin for with 8 pots, delay with another 8 etc. could each set of pots be routed to separate channel?
Such a beautiful machine. If only there was a sequencer that could record the kind of complex automations you could get out of this. Pyramid seemed appropriate but the 10.000 event limit seems to be a dealbreaker. Would you happen to know of a dedicated cc only sequencer (or advanced cc looper)?
Very nice box! I think an editor in software for programming hardware synths would be a nice addition. Any chance you'll do one? Can it send and receive Sysex on the knobs and buttons?
PilferMusic hi - I just reviewed it, I don’t make them ;) regarding a software editor - it’s really easy to program, I don’t think there’s need for one. Regarding sysex - I asked them about it, it may come in a firmware update
Any plans for a 16x16 knob (256 knobs) midi controller? I've been trying to find a controller with enough knobs to control my Machinedrum without having to switch pages or tracks. Immediate access to all the parameters would be so awesome!!
For Omnisphere I'd go the hardware intergration route (actually what I am going for right now). That is already fully mapped and works really well. With something like this you probably have to hand map it.
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Nice review! Lovely wood stand too! Is it diy or where can I find it? Thanks
Hi man thanks again for the great video! I'm locking for knobs midi controller for the elktrom synth (digitone+digitakt) do you think this Faderfox's its a good idea for me? many thanks!
You’re welcome! If you need that many knobs it’s the only game in town but in a few weeks an interesting product will come out with less knobs but that you might want to consider. Stay tuned....
@@loopop Hi thanks for all the great videos! Can you tell us what new device you meant with your tip above? About 7 months ago you wrote: If you need that many knobs it’s the only game in town but in a few weeks an interesting product will come out with less knobs but that you might want to consider. Stay tuned.... I'm very interested in what product you were referring to. Thanks in advance!!! John
Hey John, unfortunately that product is still delayed and unannounced. I asked the vendor and they have other priorities pushing this back which is a shame! Sorry about the tease - I was told it would be out long ago :/
@@loopop Thanks for the fast reply! No problem, these things happen. I don't know how you can keep up with all these amazing devices. Thank you so much for all the hard work!!!
hi loopop :) :) I bought the pc12 and wanted to ask you where did you get this wooden stands? they are really nice and i want to check if they fit my needs in terms of size and angle. do you made them youself? would be nice to hear from you! greets!! :)
Is it possible to use 2 or 4 midi controllers (like the PC12) "simultaneously" on a computer or will this cause disturbance? The reason i ask is because my goal is to setup 1 midi controller to each single track (in Cubase) without having to switch channels or such. I simply want to have the option to change sounds and change many effects for each track on the spot. (to my experience switching is such a creativity killer)
A midi-controller, designed specifically for the Sonic Potion’s LXR drum machine, but it is capable of controlling any device with midi input and external parameter control possibility. Also it can handle some more tricky and less common control protocols such as NRPN or SysEx. noise.kitchen/shop/sixtyknobs/sixtyknobs/
The BCR2000 does 14 bit, NRPN, sysex... which the faderfox doesn't. Not sure how that is "not as nice" :-). And there's a very good 3rd party editor-application for the BCR, which I think is indispensable for these kinds of knobby controllers -- if only to be able to save setups to disk / swap setups easily for different applications. Marketing speak about how an app is not needed because "it's all so easy from the front panel" is totally missing the point. Doesn't mean I don't find this (the faderfox) a sexy piece of gear :-). Sexy isn't sufficient though, just like in real life...
Philipp Matheis what he means is u can send a sysex dump to backup ur settings. I emailed the Faderfox creator and he confirmed this unit cannot learn sysex commands. He stated he may try to make his next unit be able to learn sysex commands
Really?? I saw on the web you actually work for Faderfox, and this is comforting. I also see you have already one line which moves on 16 channels but just with faders: the Universal Controller UC44 . So it may no be such a dream..... So , for what you tell me seems a PC16 was already in program :o ?
32 encoders!! and 16 channels !! uuh wow!! if is going to be real means that lots of 16 channels multi timbral synth module ( with not enough knobs) users are going to be finally happy....It is going to be even more useful than the already too old Behringer BCR2000. That's great Mathias! thanks to say!! Really , thanks to say that in advance!!
ALMOST PERFECT Knowing there are 16 channels passing thru midi, knowing there are few synths which push the maximum of their channels to 16 channels/part, this time would have cost you anything to make a PC16. instead. Cost you anything put rotary dial encoders instead of knobs.......Pity!
I purchased my unit during the first covid lock down and its been one of my favourite bits of kit since then. Built like a tank, it is now used in every jam setup I make. I am seriously considering a second unit. Because you can never have enough knobs.
Thanks for this video - I just bought the MX12 and was struggling to program it based on the manual, but as this unit is programmed in the same way, it’s shown me exactly how to manage the process. Cheers!
Thanks for the best and consistent video tutorials over years. Amazing work and massive help ;~) Thank you a million.
You're very welcome and thanks!
I always wanted something like that, but the lack of visuals is what puts me off. At this price some type of LED guides on the knobs (APC style) should be included.
Also i would add at least one LED/OLED strip above each of the 3 sections (like the old Novation SL) to display some information about the knobs. I would also want the knobs to be touch-sensitive so i can see in that LED strip what i am about to control.
Combined with the LED-Ring i would always know what is going on as i move through my VST instances... It could display pan position, volumes, step sequences, ... loads of more options. I would happily pay 499 for such a device.
I get that it's a niche product, but it doesn't have to be if the interface is more accessible. It then will make sense to many more people (and beginners). By the way, i think a modulation ribbon at the left side would be a nice touch (think Push/S-series).
Okay, enough dreaming. I hope we will get a marvelous little unit like that one day.
BCR2000 does this.
@Username Needs a computer though. YMMV.
Tons of knobs, patches & real midi ports so it`s useful for hardware and complex midi setups too, yeahy !
Thanks for the answer
But yes the question was for lot more knobs, only 9 knobs and 9 faders on my keylab
PC 16 with endless rotary encoders then !!!!!
Finally scored one for under $500. Just have to wait for it to come across the pond.
This is just another brilliant presentation. Thanx
Been looking for something like this for the ELKA-X VST....knobs, buttons and sliders GALORE!!
Is any sort of "next page" function so you can work with more than 12 tracks in Ableton?
so many knooooooooobs, love it!
Cheaper than I expected from faderfox too
the ultimate midi controller!
Add scribble strips and it would be the best out there.
hi, great video, thanks! Is the knobs has the center notch? For instance if I map to Balance parameter, it'd be nice to have the center notch to know the value is exact in the middle without looking at the screen. Some of the novation boxes has this but they only offer 8 ch. I need at least 10 for my setup and good to have future proof of extra 2.
wicked for use with BOOM drum machine, terrific work!
Amazing machine, Glad I bought one, after (a somewhat tedious) setup, found it scratching the itch of buying another desktop machine.
i was looking for something like that for long time
Can I control Serum with this? I want a more hands on control of that vst
sure it should work
Very good video, i would like to know if it s possible to assign inside a preset different midi channel for each knobs Also how many midi channel can manage the usb on this machine. Thank you :)
Thanks! I made this video years ago so I don't remember, but I think so... please refer to the manual or just email the company.
Hi, thanks for the video. I have both the mx12 and pc12 but cannot get the two to work together in Ableton. I do have the crossover Ethernet which powers both units but only the unit that is connected via usb will send midi info to Ableton. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
I don't have them both but has the company not answered your questions/request for support?
@@loopop got it sorted. Thanks!
Thank you for all your video, there the best,,,, I want the best controler for my virtual synth ( V9 collection, komplete ultimate… ) is pc 12 still the best or ther is another wich is even better ?? Thank you
unless you need all these knobs, but best controller for those are the ones made by their respective companies. if you have both you need to decide which you use more...
Nice tool!
Oh this is just 400 bucks, I'm definitely going to buy it!
400 euro bucks
a little bit of advice would help as I can't find anything online, the PC12 has 7 bit just like the PC4. Is 14 bit significantly better? I like the idea of 24 knobs rather than 16 on the EC4.
Hi! Very interesting video! Would love to see a similar one with Faderfox and Deluge! :) It's just too bad that the faderfox doesn't have 16 buttons (in order to also use it as sequencer) and endless encoders! That would make this thing massive!!! (PS: Could you elaborate how you do to learn so much different and diverse gear within the short time that there is between the release time of all those machines....? And what is a good approach for beginners?) :) Keep up the good work. Lot's of respect for what you do!!!
For endless encoders check out the Faderfox EC12 (EC = Encoder Controller, PC = Pot Controller), the same functionality but with 49 encoders instead of 72 pots, a bunch more buttons though :D
@@pivA00 Thanks a lot! I'll check it out!! ;-)
@@pivA00 was the EC12 ever released?
and is it compatible with logic???
Hello a question.. how do you set the rotary encoder of the mx12 to go up or down the scenes on ableton?
What if you return t a snapshot and then touch a knob. Is the knob in its sound place or.. Is it where the line is placed? I dont know how to say this correctly. But it happens a lot with these things?
Is there any faderfox forum or group?
Anyone using this with Kontakt or U-He? I’m in Studio One Pro 5 Windows 10.
Would I save a scene per instrument in Kontakt? Might be problematic as I have hundreds of Kontakt libraries. Looking for a non-mouse solution.
Are they endless encoders , or just pots that need to be reset if you change pages? The old Behringer BCF might still be more useful if they’re only pots (which by the dial they appear to be)
If they aren't endless the entire unit is pointless
@@martinskanal they are pots, own 3 of them, they do their thing but encoders would have been better.
Hi All, would greatly appreciate some help with this device is someone is able? Im trying to send data on different ports, like you might with Kontakt or Halion (eg port A channels 1-16 and port B channel 1-16). Thinking that might be able to do via 'routing' but cant work it out. Thanks in advance, Jon
@loopop it's possible mapping pc12 without computer?? I have plan use with Prophet 12 desktop but I don't mind anymore - using computer.
Yes if I remember correctly. The video should discuss this, so everything it does is mentioned in the video.
@@loopop I apologise for taking your priceless time ❤️
Btw happy 23rd!! Keep well ❤️
Must have.
Can I use this thing with the mpc one???
my thoughts exactly. ive seen someone use a smaller one to control a jungle/DNB set and its amazing. one of these is on my list for sure
@@newday8545 the price tho! Not for mpc one users ig lol
@@buscandolaverdad8686 look up faderfox EC4. its like 300$ give or take. you can map up to 4000 knobs lol. Theres a dude on here called Tubedigga that uses it. pretty dope. connected to the mpc. seems so practical.
@@newday8545 cool I’ll give it a look appreciate it
Will this work with Circuit Tracks?
It should work with anything that sends, receives MIDI CC
Hello! I own an EC4 and can’t for the life of me map my software plugins to any of the encoders i would love your help
sorry it's a tough one to help with remotely :/ try and isolate the problem (say, map a different controller), if that works, contact faderfox tech support
Hi thanks for the vid, would love one of these. it looked like you had ableton running on a tablet?
No it's a video overlay added in post; however you can run Ableton on a tablet
I just bought it and I will receive it in a few days - I like the wooden supports to hold the controlers , where find that ?
Check out cremacaffe
@@loopop thanks
It's a cool controller and the demo is good. But I'm afraid without any information on each knob and with configuration switching I'll certainly lose my head and don't remember which button is assigned to which machine/effect/soft or hardware...
I bought so much controllers that end in the rubbish for this reason (or are used by spiders to trap insects in a corner of my studio).
The ultimate controller is not far from this one : juste add 4 more columns of buttons (16 instead of 12) and above all, find a way to display near each button the name of the device and its corresponding parameter.
I'm sure after a while "Configuration #25, Row #2 button, Column #3" will never make sense again to me...
Of course other enhancements can be added for almost no money (as it is a digital controller with a cpu and a software embedded) : add a trigger mode to program drums and a sequencer mode to program synths.
Thus such a machine, even a bit more expansive will be perfect.
One more thing : one button = one function. Each machine has its own sophisticated combinations to enter menus or submenus, even the very analog Mother 32 sequencer is a hell when you don't use it every day, Aira Sytem 1m has also its own tricks, every machines is built with secret functions needing to remember esoteric button combinations...
So : 16 columns, name of devices and parameters on all buttons. One button for One function. And perhaps some triggers sequencer and poly sequencer extra mode. And the Ultimate Controller will be born !
This one is a good step in the right direction. Hoping other steps will be done in the future !
Yes, agreed. I also can't stand when I get firmware updates for gear I allready have, introducing new functions with knob combinations that you have to remember the hell out of.
a macro feature for combination of controlls, bcr200 has it think
BlatendCrude : like the Minitaur eh ?
I wonder why nobody seems to offer controllers with the displays over the knobs (or even knob sets) that you mention. Certainly LCD displays are dirt cheap these days. I keep waiting for this on controllers, but the only place you see them are on MIDI foot stomps for guitar...
Yes it is strange to create such zillion-button-controller and forgetting that without display it will be unusable. I can't imagine remembering all correspondences between the controller buttons and my synths buttons. Even my very old UC-33, an early midi controller, had some removable cheat sheet with the name of each buttons for some of best known synths . Very strange thought process.
how good would it be to have an little tablet or monitor above the midi controller dedicated to representing the VST instrument. and then a seperate main monitor for Ableton.
like if the Arturia Mini Moog had the ability to CAST to another monitor device or somthing from within the ableton window.
you mean like having two monitors???
Just want I wanted for my Cherry Audio Voltage, Bitwig setup. Ordered and awaiting with much anticccc...ip.... ation.
Thank you for the video. There are no good videos online featuring the Faderfox MX12, so I wonder if you planned on that in the future? I could understand if they are too similar therefore redundant to demo.
Thanks - sorry no plans - indeed they seem to work according to the same principles though I’ve not tried it out
relative encoders with leds please mr faderfox.
That would be absolute porno. And probably double the price tag :(
Can I use this to control Logic Pro x, buses sends etc
can presets be changed via incoming midi programchange?
ie have a midi track in daw that stores and ‘play back’ the snapshots to the pc12 according to a tracks timeline?
also any way to assign macros to buttons? (combinations on midi / key strokes shortcus)?
how about controlling multiple instruments from one snapshot, for example eq plugin for with 8 pots, delay with another 8 etc.
could each set of pots be routed to separate channel?
Such a beautiful machine. If only there was a sequencer that could record the kind of complex automations you could get out of this. Pyramid seemed appropriate but the 10.000 event limit seems to be a dealbreaker. Would you happen to know of a dedicated cc only sequencer (or advanced cc looper)?
a DAW.
is it suitable to use with the "dexed" software for simultaneous 6-operator fm-synthesis?
never tried it but the knobs can be assigned to anything
Wow this looks amazing, but I heard some hard, stepping on the SEM. What is that about? What us the resolution on this thing? Just standard Midi?
loren morgan yes standard midi cc up to 127
Very nice box! I think an editor in software for programming hardware synths would be a nice addition. Any chance you'll do one? Can it send and receive Sysex on the knobs and buttons?
PilferMusic hi - I just reviewed it, I don’t make them ;) regarding a software editor - it’s really easy to program, I don’t think there’s need for one. Regarding sysex - I asked them about it, it may come in a firmware update
Can you show how one could use with eurorack modular?
Yes! I’m actually planning a video on that soon - stay tuned
Any plans for a 16x16 knob (256 knobs) midi controller? I've been trying to find a controller with enough knobs to control my Machinedrum without having to switch pages or tracks. Immediate access to all the parameters would be so awesome!!
Adam Bull I don’t make them I just review... you can daisy chain 2 of these for 12x16 and I think they make custom ones too. Email faderfox
hey! again, awesome video. Do you think it will be usefull to use this for controlling omnisphere 2? Will it be a great addition to the push 2?
For Omnisphere I'd go the hardware intergration route (actually what I am going for right now). That is already fully mapped and works really well. With something like this you probably have to hand map it.
Nice review!
Lovely wood stand too!
Is it diy or where can I find it?
Thanks
Manuel Rodríguez Fernández Thanks! Check out Cremacaffe
Can you make a tutorial only with the PC12 and Octatrack?
DKE H-Wave sorry probably not
loopop oh we sad
I love being able to have so many knobs in my hand at once.
Ummm...wait.
whats the stand that holds the unit?
Stands by Cremacaffe
What’s the stand you are using?
Stands by Cremacaffe
hello mister ,... where are u running ableton in this demo .?
yes
can I use this with Logic?
Hi, is there a possibility to send the actual midi data (position) of all knobs at once to Ableton? Greets Casse
Casse Baum it’s been a while but if I remember correctly yes, please email the company just to make sure ...
Ok. Thank you for the quick answer! :)
Hi man thanks again for the great video! I'm locking for knobs midi controller for the elktrom synth (digitone+digitakt) do you think this Faderfox's its a good idea for me? many thanks!
You’re welcome! If you need that many knobs it’s the only game in town but in a few weeks an interesting product will come out with less knobs but that you might want to consider. Stay tuned....
@@loopop I Will. Thanks.
@@loopop Hi thanks for all the great videos! Can you tell us what new device you meant with your tip above?
About 7 months ago you wrote: If you need that many knobs it’s the only game in town but in a few weeks an interesting product will come out with less knobs but that you might want to consider. Stay tuned....
I'm very interested in what product you were referring to.
Thanks in advance!!!
John
Hey John, unfortunately that product is still delayed and unannounced. I asked the vendor and they have other priorities pushing this back which is a shame! Sorry about the tease - I was told it would be out long ago :/
@@loopop Thanks for the fast reply! No problem, these things happen. I don't know how you can keep up with all these amazing devices. Thank you so much for all the hard work!!!
hi loopop :) :) I bought the pc12 and wanted to ask you where did you get this wooden stands? they are really nice and i want to check if they fit my needs in terms of size and angle. do you made them youself? would be nice to hear from you! greets!! :)
Thanks! See link in the description - no I didn't make them ;)
@@loopop ah!!! I havent read it...BIGthx !! :)
I really dig your wooden Music-gear-stands. Where did you get them from ?
R3DICE check out Cremacaffe
where can i buy it？
google is your friend.
Is it possible to use 2 or 4 midi controllers (like the PC12) "simultaneously" on a computer or will this cause disturbance?
The reason i ask is because my goal is to setup 1 midi controller to each single track (in Cubase) without having to switch channels or such. I simply want to have the option to change sounds and change many effects for each track on the spot.
(to my experience switching is such a creativity killer)
I'm not aware of any limits
14bit MIDI ?
Can anybody suggest any alternatives to this one - with comparable amount of knobs? Or is it a leader today?
You could have a look at the good ol' Behringer bcr2000... not as nice if you ask me, but it may be just what you're looking for
A midi-controller, designed specifically for the Sonic Potion’s LXR drum machine, but it is capable of controlling any device with midi input and external parameter control possibility. Also it can handle some more tricky and less common control protocols such as NRPN or SysEx.
noise.kitchen/shop/sixtyknobs/sixtyknobs/
The BCR2000 does 14 bit, NRPN, sysex... which the faderfox doesn't. Not sure how that is "not as nice" :-). And there's a very good 3rd party editor-application for the BCR, which I think is indispensable for these kinds of knobby controllers -- if only to be able to save setups to disk / swap setups easily for different applications. Marketing speak about how an app is not needed because "it's all so easy from the front panel" is totally missing the point. Doesn't mean I don't find this (the faderfox) a sexy piece of gear :-). Sexy isn't sufficient though, just like in real life...
good point
60knobs by Bastl Instruments
Can it learn sysex commands?
I don't think so - please email faderfox about that...
60 knobs can, use google
It is too bad this isn't more widely available here in the USA..
you can order directly from faderfox in germany too
It's not supporting sysex.. so it's a no go for me (sorrynotsorry)
nobody cares.
I do :-)
Geert Verstraete i care too :)
doesn´t it?
at 11:00 he says its possible. or am i not correct
Philipp Matheis what he means is u can send a sysex dump to backup ur settings. I emailed the Faderfox creator and he confirmed this unit cannot learn sysex commands. He stated he may try to make his next unit be able to learn sysex commands
PC16 please
yes! and with rotary encoders. Also it would be nice to make some shift possible to achieve one channel per time for all the knobs . Almost perfect !!
Really?? I saw on the web you actually work for Faderfox, and this is comforting. I also see you have already one line which moves on 16 channels but just with faders: the Universal Controller UC44 . So it may no be such a dream..... So , for what you tell me seems a PC16 was already in program :o ?
:D what about the rotary encoders?? ... is also this possible??
32 encoders!! and 16 channels !! uuh wow!! if is going to be real means that lots of 16 channels multi timbral synth module ( with not enough knobs) users are going to be finally happy....It is going to be even more useful than the already too old Behringer BCR2000. That's great Mathias! thanks to say!! Really , thanks to say that in advance!!
...though, even better on 16 channels, more and more rotary encoders!!
I mean that thing is great, but the price i too high.... hey, it is an knob midi controller and not an Synth or something what justifies the price
If it had 3 buttons per row it'd be just what I'm looking for
and 16 rows not 12
is there any other similar brands on the market?
I hated that song, that was one of the first songs i learned how to mix with and i had to listen to it for a month.
Very confusing ...not sure I would ever get my head around it.
lol, what dj's say about music production
ALMOST PERFECT
Knowing there are 16 channels passing thru midi, knowing there are few synths which push the maximum of their channels to 16 channels/part, this time would have cost you anything to make a PC16. instead. Cost you anything put rotary dial encoders instead of knobs.......Pity!
Fad A rfox? ;)
Anyone thought about using it as Step Sequencer? I see sixteen steps....?
This thing needs scribble strips in a big way! Just not viable IMHO
Snap Shots? Mmmm Sounds Familiar. Just Get A MK3 And Call It A Day. :)
the fact there is no display
ye but soo fucking exspensive
>72 knobs
>not encoders
LFMAO
Way to expensive compared to other products on the market.
so what alternatives are there with the amount of pots this has?
@@DJRickDawson someone mentioned "60knobs" by Bastl Instruments. one thing is appealing is it is practically half 300+ cheaper.