Yes, me too. I think they should consider a lite version with a much smaller price tag. I use a QWERTY computer keyboard with Scale Workshop by Sevish which is great for experimenting with unusual tunings.
I'm looking at getting Akai Fires. They have 16x4 somewhat velocity sensing pads for $150 each. FL studio is set up to use them to lay out beats rather than a microtonal controllers, but it does support up to 4 of them in a grid. I figure I could script them in Reaper writing the software myself (I used to be a programmer). I'm only planning on buying 2 of them, but if you got 4 that would be 256 pads, not far off from the Lumatone's 280.
Get an Intuitive Instruments Exquis! It's hexagonal, MPE and it's only 299$. It wons the Best Hardware of the Year Pize at Midi Inovation Awards 2023, I'm very surprised it's not in the video...
The Lumatone is basically a configurable bayan keyboard. It's far more efficient to play than a standard keyboard and actually makes transposition on the fly much easier. I've always wanted to learn how to play a bayan.
Bayan is a particular configuration of button accordion. SEARCH and view on Roland page. roland v-accordion fr-1xb It is a synthesizer in a button accordion format. I'm sure the Roland V (virtual) button accordion has a setting for Bayan configuration. I recall there is one woman on UA-cam with a lesson series for playing Bayan. Left hand Stradella System varies but is common to accordions including Bayan.
I agree, if you buy a lumatone it is to play microtones. Why would you play a lumatone like a conventional piano, considering that you can buy an acoustic piano for the same price.
@@k3so About half of the folks who buy a Lumatone are not interested in microtonality at all. It's a game-changer for standard tuning artists too, for all the excellent reasons that Sanjay pointed out. 👍
no Linnstrument? From the GODFATHER of controller design Roger Linn (he invented the MPC).......and it's 1/4 the cost of the Lumatone! I'm guessing he wouldn't send one free of charge 🤣
The expressiveness of the osmose combined with the internal Hakan Audio sounds gives me a new level of performance not available on my other synths. It has become my soloing instrument of choice.
Have the LUMI and it's great. Love the fact that it is modular. Osmos is the most interesting looking that I've seen previously. But that LAST one? Wow. Just the fun factor alone!
As a Information Technicology worker and a life long Musician. As a multi instrumentalist, my primary instrument is Trumpet (Lead Trumpeter), I got into midi earlly on the PC going way back with Creative Labs AWE Sound Cards. My first Midi Keyboard which I still have is a Yamaha PSR 500. Though all of these featured spark my interest, I'd have to go with the Lumatone but honestly I am almost afraid to find out its cost....the operative term is almost.....This is my first time coming across your videos. Thanks for a great review
The Intuitive Instruments Exquis is like a small (afordable) brother of the Lumatone. As for small and powerful, I've also really enjoyed the Woovebox.
You never bothered to showcase - The Linstrument by Roger Linn. Now that is just such an incredible keyboard with all the keyboard - M/E effects and programmable abilities etc. And the cost is insanely cheap around 1400 than to pay 3500 for the Lunatone!?! Roger is already light years ahead before any of these came about.
I have a Linnstrument, the large model, and it's one of my most prized possessions. It's incredibly capable. And absolutely gorgeous to look at. It's the most reliable controller I've ever owned, as well. Something about its impressive reliability and its build quality really makes it feel like it's in a whole other league beyond MIDI controllers. And the thing itself just feels like a true instrument, if you know what I mean. I don't know, it's hard to explain. I just really love the thing, and I've got so much gear, but it's the only thing I actually feel has a soul outside my guitars. Like if there was a fire, the Linnstrument is the very first thing that I would grab. Though it's certainly not the most expensive thing by any means. I guess that's the best way I can put it. It doesn't hurt that the thing comes with a signed letter from Roger Linn himself!
@@annebokma4637 Exactly it does not make sense. If he could not of obtained one at least he should of mentioned it? Although I suspect if he reached out to Roger, I am pretty sure he would of loaned him one!
Dolomuse (yt channel that specialises in exploring microtonal music) uses the Lumatone in a lot of her pieces and Ive always loved how the look of the instrument matches the mystique of microtonal music. Now I have to fight the urges to invest in one all over again lol😅
The lumatone has been an instrument that I've absolutely wanted for years now. The fact that you can do microtonal work on it so easily is just incredibly appealing to me. I'm also so much surprised that you didn't show the linnstrument though I suppose it's not really a keyboard per say.
Two things that are still on my wishlist are a harpejii and a seaboard. A harpejii is a bit like a guitar and a piano had a baby. The ultimate tapping instrument. And the seaboard supports bends and vibrato, something not possible with regular keys. And those variations are done per key.
Hay Sanjay! Another wonderful video with some really fabulous products. Thanks again for your excellent review. You are always easy to follow. Your videos are professionally produced with excellent quality, featuring the most interesting midi keyboards! Great video! And great to see your wife!! I hope she is feeling better! 🩵
The reasons given for playing a Lumatone sounds exactly like the ones button accordion players usually give for playing a button accordion instead of a piano accordion. Historically there was something called a 'Janko piano' that was build on a similar idea.
Wow! these are really crazy little music keyboards. I especially liked the last one, Lumatone. It uses a musical concept similar to Tonnetz. Thanks for making this video. Have a Blessed day!😇
Plenty about microtonality on Lumatone on UA-cam, but we're really grateful that Sanjay used this video to highlight the fact that about half of Lumatoners got theirs purely for it's abilities to map and perform with the standard 12-tone tuning in new and inspiring ways.
I bought the Joué years ago. The idea is fantastic, but I was disappointed with the touch feeling because it is not sensitive enough for me. For instance, if I play drums on it, I miss many hits because I don't tap hard enough for the device. The idea of the guitar layout is very good, as you can easily play "real" guitar or bass patterns that feel artificial on a piano layout keyboard. Anyway, because of that sensitivity issue, it is actually sleeping forever in a box and I won't use it anymore. So if you are interested to buy one, try to find somebody who has one that you could try before you buy.
Linnstrument is a creative approach, combining the tuning of guitar/bass with a fully MPE control surface. And Roli's Seaboard instruments also are non-tradition in approach and playing technique. Nice that there are more alternatives to choose from all the time. The Lumatone looks great, but the price...
It looks like the midi card is designed to allow users to build their own custom interface from it. I find this more interesting than the actual novelty of having a tiny keyboard. Discretely placing buttons onto an acoustic instrument to trigger samples is something I’ve been dreaming of for a long while.
Sanjubaba...that's incredible info. Enjoyed the video thoroughly. Currently no plans to buy either of these. But as a wishlist, I would like to own and try all. 😊😊😂😂 Thanks again.
Oh, my goodness, that was so cool! Loved that you played, “Tujhe dekha tho ye jaana sangam.” Lumatone was crazy alright. Great video, as always. Love your channel.
I’d been hoping for a Lumatone since ~1977, so, for me, it’s a dream come true! But it’s even more than the Bosanquet-Wilson keyboard I’d been hoping for, also having exceptionally flexibly-programmable keyboard layouts and fantastic touch sensitivity. Also, mine at least has been very reliable too; I’ve seen equipment from big-name companies with more glitches!
Do the LUMI keys rearrange their position? As a piano player who using microtonal tuning (don’t worry I already have a lumatone), I’m interested in both it and rearranged pianos - for the physicality. Lumatone is a fantastic instrument but it’s too different for me to really think of it as “piano”
The 2nd one has button presses that are too loud; that will mess up the sound from the built-in speaker but be okay for an external speaker or headset.
Very interesting, especially the last two where I‘d like to have the Osmose (preferably with 61 keys or 73/76 keys. Thank you for introducing these things to us. 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
If you want a smaller version of Lumatone minus some colors and modes they offer, check out Exquis by Intuitive Instruments. It also has a hexagonal arrangement, but the chords follow a specific memorable pattern across the board. It's not perfect, more like an 8/10 but it's a similarly expressive instrument.
Important to understand the differences between the two - they both use hexagons, but that's where the similarities end. A Lumatone is not a touch pad. It's 280 fully mechanical keys with real travel. It all comes down to what you need when it comes to expression and performance.
Seeing the Lumatone at first it's like yeah ok, think I'd rather stick with a regular layout. Then you see how that layout is explained, that is really interesting and very cool.
One of my favorite MIDI keyboards is less instagrammable-looking than it does a mostly deceiving drumkit impression. I like that you can practically use anything to perform as a midi controller. Waiting for a MIDI out on my Atari 2600 joystick. And then on my washing machine. And then, because I'm not mad enough to spend almost 4K on a lumatone, I'll have mastered the skills to build my own with arcade parts.
Making a per-finger pressure sensitive and illuminated surface is actually pretty hard! I've tried making a few DIY ones in the past (some for commercial projects), but I could never get the pressure sensitivity to be consistent across the whole area without being expensive and requiring regular calibration. If the Touch 2 was available and a bit more hackable, I would totally have used it. It's also a niche product, so they have to be able to recoup development costs on relatively few sales.
That's what it looks like... but if you can make one that works as well for much less, I'll buy it. If it only looks the same, but doesn't really work like the Erae does, then no thanks.
@@hamishpain8641 you sir, know what you are talking about. I own the Lumi, Rise 2, and a Seaboard Block and had A Joue Play for a while. I can confidentely say, that the Rise 2 is the only one of all of them that really nails the MPE pressure. Second are the Block and Lumi. And the Joue so far far far behind you can't even call it functional for MPE Aftertouch. Really wish i could try out the haken, osmose and linnstrument for a direct comparison.
The Lumatone looks awesome. I preordered the Embodme Erae II. Looks to be excellent. You might might to check out the Koma Chromaplane. Not a keyboard, but it is really innovative.
Hi there! Quite an interesting unconventional keyboard list!! Out of these, I have the Limo since day one.... I'm not too found of it.. yes, it's pretty, but the small keys make it uncomfortable to play with and, to truly take advantage, I'd need a second Lumi... But they aren't cheap! The ExpressivE, looks like from a SciFi movie but definitely looks interesting. Oh, the Embodme.... Love it!! Musician DeLaurentis performs with one or few, depending on the song, she's a master of it!!! The Lumatone.... It does have a good advantage, it's easy to play in the dark with 😊 Joking aside, it definitely is an interesting and original device! Thanks for sharing!
If you like! You can map it any way you see fit, including using isomorphic modes like Harmonic, Melodic, and Classic. These are modelled after time tested layouts like Wicki-Hayden, Bosanquet, and the Harmonic table. It's an inspiring way to see music and the relationships between notes from a brand new angle. 👍
Pattern playing sounds pretty cool. Setup the pentatonic scale for each key change sequence in a song and can probably learn just about any song without being able to do the same on a piano. The normal chord progressions would be effortless almost. I think that would be super cool to try. If they don't already have software setup like this, they should. You should just put a chord progression in, and let it light up each section seperate. Then you just move along with patterns. Would be so much easier.
I love my LUMI's (I have 2, which fit my desktop perfectly). They look great and inviting, and that per-key pitch bend is insane. The only thing is, I wish they were fullsize keys and not 3/4 width keys (also known as mini keys). As a pianist, I make more errors than I use to, but for more serious play, I of course use other keyboards. So for what it is, the LUMI is pretty cool., and not an expensive addition to a home studio either.
What really sets the Osmos apart from the rest is that’s it’s just a regular keyboard on the surface. Anyone with any piano experience can instantly start playing with no learning curve whatsoever and then optionally add all kinds of additional expression on top that isn’t available on other keyboards.
I hope you have found that the Lumikeys keyboard can show a number of different colour ranges instead of just the red 'c' and white for everything else!
Liked the video, didn't like when you said on the lumaton you will learn faster than on a piano. Made it sound like you could learn playing the piano by practicing on a lumaton, which is definitely not the case!
I have a Theoryboard. It has been a disappointment due to the fact that the company never provided a user manual. Instead, there are a number of YT videos where one is expected to figure out how to use. There is no way to know if a particular video answers a question and if so where in the video. I can't recommend the product for that reason alone.
@@avsystem3142 Ya, I've heard that from others as well. It was an interesting midi keyboard, when it came out, but I never opted to get one. I just find it funny, 4+ years later, they are still on sale. Seems like shit marketing and poor support.
By far the best is the Expressive E Osmose. You didn't even mention the sound synthesis ability of that thing using the Eagan Matrix. Which btw is about to get even better in a SW update.
Hello, Linnstrument? Haaken Continuum? Also, I am disappointed by the Osmose strictly as a keyboard: it is very mushy. Despite its looks, don't expect a full weighted keyboard.
Always wanted a Lumatone, can’t justify the price though. Some day maybe
We're here when you're ready. 👍
The cool thing about the lumatone is, you can play microtonal stuff with it
Yes, me too. I think they should consider a lite version with a much smaller price tag.
I use a QWERTY computer keyboard with Scale Workshop by Sevish which is great for experimenting with unusual tunings.
@@lumatone Please consider a 'lite' version with less keys. I think I will design one myself.
Wow, I had little bet with myself about how much it cost before I clicked the link. I was way off!
I want a Lumatone too for microtonal stuff! But 4K€+ makes it quite unreasonable given my current musical proficiency :D
Get a Linnstrument. The full version of it costs 1400 bucks. It's also way more flexible than the Lumatone.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino nice, I'll have a look, thanks!
I'm looking at getting Akai Fires. They have 16x4 somewhat velocity sensing pads for $150 each. FL studio is set up to use them to lay out beats rather than a microtonal controllers, but it does support up to 4 of them in a grid.
I figure I could script them in Reaper writing the software myself (I used to be a programmer).
I'm only planning on buying 2 of them, but if you got 4 that would be 256 pads, not far off from the Lumatone's 280.
Get an Intuitive Instruments Exquis! It's hexagonal, MPE and it's only 299$. It wons the Best Hardware of the Year Pize at Midi Inovation Awards 2023, I'm very surprised it's not in the video...
I would sooner buy a Mood One but then again, those things are expensive af too.
The Lumatone is basically a configurable bayan keyboard. It's far more efficient to play than a standard keyboard and actually makes transposition on the fly much easier. I've always wanted to learn how to play a bayan.
Exactly! Hope you get a chance to try one someday.
Bayan is a particular configuration of button accordion.
SEARCH and view on Roland page.
roland v-accordion fr-1xb
It is a synthesizer in a button accordion format. I'm sure the Roland V (virtual) button accordion has a setting for Bayan configuration. I recall there is one woman on UA-cam with a lesson series for playing Bayan. Left hand Stradella System varies but is common to accordions including Bayan.
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>talks about the lumatone
>mentions microtonality once
>doesn't even play any microtonal scales
>refuses to elaborate
>knows his traditional audience
@@cubicinfinity2 cmon what's wrong with showing a normal person 15edo? they'll only explode
I agree, if you buy a lumatone it is to play microtones. Why would you play a lumatone like a conventional piano, considering that you can buy an acoustic piano for the same price.
@@k3so About half of the folks who buy a Lumatone are not interested in microtonality at all. It's a game-changer for standard tuning artists too, for all the excellent reasons that Sanjay pointed out. 👍
@@k3so
Isomorphism.
Appreciate the silent nod to one of my favourite musical piece "tujhe dekha to ye jaana sanam" 👍🏼
❤️🇮🇳🎹 ah you noticed!
💜🎶 Yessss mine too!!!
i was also going to comment but i saw your comment and i am going to reply yes i also notice
Why did I think this was the other type of keyboard lol 😭
Me too..😢🤣
Same. I was like ooooo i need a keyboard with every letter in every language
no Linnstrument? From the GODFATHER of controller design Roger Linn (he invented the MPC).......and it's 1/4 the cost of the Lumatone! I'm guessing he wouldn't send one free of charge 🤣
LOL...yup! Actually I considered it, but I couldn't get one in time. I think there needs to be a part 2 to this video with the other suggestions here.
@@SanjayC Definitely
@@SanjayCyou should also take a look at the Intuitive Instruments Exquis. It seems interesting
I would recommend looking at things like Artiphon’s gear and maybe some percussion triggers too, as they can also be used in a melodic context.
Missing Exquis by Intuitive Instruments, probably deserves a 9 or 10 as well
Ok, the Lumatone blew my mind. So awesome! But anything with keys Sanjay makes sound amazing.
Indeed, it was so cool to see how quick Sanjay picked it up. It has been really gratifying to watch folks like him bond with it.
The expressiveness of the osmose combined with the internal Hakan Audio sounds gives me a new level of performance not available on my other synths. It has become my soloing instrument of choice.
Have the LUMI and it's great. Love the fact that it is modular. Osmos is the most interesting looking that I've seen previously. But that LAST one? Wow. Just the fun factor alone!
💪💥🤯
As a Information Technicology worker and a life long Musician. As a multi instrumentalist, my primary instrument is Trumpet (Lead Trumpeter), I got into midi earlly on the PC going way back with Creative Labs AWE Sound Cards. My first Midi Keyboard which I still have is a Yamaha PSR 500. Though all of these featured spark my interest, I'd have to go with the Lumatone but honestly I am almost afraid to find out its cost....the operative term is almost.....This is my first time coming across your videos. Thanks for a great review
The Intuitive Instruments Exquis is like a small (afordable) brother of the Lumatone.
As for small and powerful, I've also really enjoyed the Woovebox.
Thanks so much for dropping this bit of info! Had no idea about the Exquis. It looks really cool and definitely within my ballpark of affordability!
You never bothered to showcase - The Linstrument by Roger Linn. Now that is just such an incredible keyboard with all the keyboard -
M/E effects and programmable abilities etc. And the cost is insanely cheap around 1400 than to pay 3500 for the Lunatone!?! Roger is already light years ahead before any of these came about.
That is a very nice piece of Kit indeed. Should be included.
I have a Linnstrument, the large model, and it's one of my most prized possessions. It's incredibly capable. And absolutely gorgeous to look at. It's the most reliable controller I've ever owned, as well. Something about its impressive reliability and its build quality really makes it feel like it's in a whole other league beyond MIDI controllers. And the thing itself just feels like a true instrument, if you know what I mean. I don't know, it's hard to explain. I just really love the thing, and I've got so much gear, but it's the only thing I actually feel has a soul outside my guitars. Like if there was a fire, the Linnstrument is the very first thing that I would grab. Though it's certainly not the most expensive thing by any means. I guess that's the best way I can put it. It doesn't hurt that the thing comes with a signed letter from Roger Linn himself!
@@TheRykerInitiative I know exactly what you mean and concor 💯 👍
@@annebokma4637 Exactly it does not make sense. If he could not of obtained one at least he should of mentioned it? Although I suspect if he reached out to Roger, I am pretty sure he would of loaned him one!
@@leetronix a lot of retailers have a 30 day money back deal.
Sadly Roger's contributions to music still don't get the praise they deserve
I've got a Lumatone keyboard as well. I wish you could have elaborated more on microtonal music; I've been working on semiquartal harmony in 19-TET.
The Lumi is the smartest approach. Good for learning, and expandable. Unfortunately not cheap.
This video was well thought out. Great Job Sanjay C
Dolomuse (yt channel that specialises in exploring microtonal music) uses the Lumatone in a lot of her pieces and Ive always loved how the look of the instrument matches the mystique of microtonal music. Now I have to fight the urges to invest in one all over again lol😅
The lumatone has been an instrument that I've absolutely wanted for years now. The fact that you can do microtonal work on it so easily is just incredibly appealing to me. I'm also so much surprised that you didn't show the linnstrument though I suppose it's not really a keyboard per say.
Two things that are still on my wishlist are a harpejii and a seaboard.
A harpejii is a bit like a guitar and a piano had a baby. The ultimate tapping instrument.
And the seaboard supports bends and vibrato, something not possible with regular keys. And those variations are done per key.
Hay Sanjay!
Another wonderful video with some really fabulous products. Thanks again for your excellent review.
You are always easy to follow. Your videos are professionally produced with excellent quality, featuring the most interesting midi keyboards! Great video!
And great to see your wife!!
I hope she is feeling better! 🩵
The reasons given for playing a Lumatone sounds exactly like the ones button accordion players usually give for playing a button accordion instead of a piano accordion. Historically there was something called a 'Janko piano' that was build on a similar idea.
Wow! these are really crazy little music keyboards. I especially liked the last one, Lumatone. It uses a musical concept similar to Tonnetz. Thanks for making this video. Have a Blessed day!😇
The Lumatone is something that Bjork or Imogen Heap would buy and write 50 songs on it.
wish you went more into the microtonal music with the Lumatone
Plenty about microtonality on Lumatone on UA-cam, but we're really grateful that Sanjay used this video to highlight the fact that about half of Lumatoners got theirs purely for it's abilities to map and perform with the standard 12-tone tuning in new and inspiring ways.
I bought the Joué years ago. The idea is fantastic, but I was disappointed with the touch feeling because it is not sensitive enough for me.
For instance, if I play drums on it, I miss many hits because I don't tap hard enough for the device.
The idea of the guitar layout is very good, as you can easily play "real" guitar or bass patterns that feel artificial on a piano layout keyboard.
Anyway, because of that sensitivity issue, it is actually sleeping forever in a box and I won't use it anymore.
So if you are interested to buy one, try to find somebody who has one that you could try before you buy.
Instant sub. Love your charisma, the editing, the cameras, everything ❤
I really appreciate that. Thank you so much.
You missed the Exquis by Intuitive Instruments. It's like the lumatone but doesn't require you to remortgage your house.
I want the LUMATONE! Wow...cool.
Linnstrument is a creative approach, combining the tuning of guitar/bass with a fully MPE control surface. And Roli's Seaboard instruments also are non-tradition in approach and playing technique. Nice that there are more alternatives to choose from all the time. The Lumatone looks great, but the price...
Superman asked for his keyboard back.
Lumitone !! ❤TY for sharing 😁
It looks like the midi card is designed to allow users to build their own custom interface from it. I find this more interesting than the actual novelty of having a tiny keyboard. Discretely placing buttons onto an acoustic instrument to trigger samples is something I’ve been dreaming of for a long while.
i love how literally everything in this video "takes things to a whole new level"
it feels like ai because ai phrases go like "dive in, level up, elevate," etc
@@TheBanancer good point. much of the intro feels very ai as well
Sanjubaba...that's incredible info. Enjoyed the video thoroughly. Currently no plans to buy either of these. But as a wishlist, I would like to own and try all. 😊😊😂😂
Thanks again.
Whats the difference between Erae Touch and an iPad Pro or another big tablet? Is it more tactile?
Loving the Lumi :)
Hey its Creative Sauce!! Thanks for coming by to watch my vid, buddy!
@SanjayC oh, I'm always watching..... lurking......STALKING! lll
OHMIGOD! That Lumatone! 😍
Can you imagine a hybrid, Luma-osmose 👌
I imagine the grouping of keys on the lumatone makes it a really fun and intuitive jamming instrument.
Oh, my goodness, that was so cool! Loved that you played, “Tujhe dekha tho ye jaana sangam.” Lumatone was crazy alright. Great video, as always. Love your channel.
I’d been hoping for a Lumatone since ~1977, so, for me, it’s a dream come true! But it’s even more than the Bosanquet-Wilson keyboard I’d been hoping for, also having exceptionally flexibly-programmable keyboard layouts and fantastic touch sensitivity. Also, mine at least has been very reliable too; I’ve seen equipment from big-name companies with more glitches!
So fun! Thanks 😊
@SanjayC Thank you for the great video! Can you tell if the Lumi Keyboard have similar or completely different feeling in comparison to Osmos?
Omggggg ! I love these small keys ! Excellent ! ❤
Do the LUMI keys rearrange their position? As a piano player who using microtonal tuning (don’t worry I already have a lumatone), I’m interested in both it and rearranged pianos - for the physicality. Lumatone is a fantastic instrument but it’s too different for me to really think of it as “piano”
Roli Lumi is my favourite. It is both compact and expandable.
tujhe dekha to ye janasanam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you made my day bruh!!!! You finally you proved that you are an Inidian!!!!!!!!
LOL 😂 Glad I made your day 🇮🇳
Very useful bits of gear.
I think the EasyPlay is awesome. Might get my sister one as a travel piano or just something she could noodle with @ her office desk.
The 2nd one has button presses that are too loud; that will mess up the sound from the built-in speaker but be okay for an external speaker or headset.
Very interesting, especially the last two where I‘d like to have the Osmose (preferably with 61 keys or 73/76 keys. Thank you for introducing these things to us. 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
If you want a smaller version of Lumatone minus some colors and modes they offer, check out Exquis by Intuitive Instruments. It also has a hexagonal arrangement, but the chords follow a specific memorable pattern across the board. It's not perfect, more like an 8/10 but it's a similarly expressive instrument.
Important to understand the differences between the two - they both use hexagons, but that's where the similarities end. A Lumatone is not a touch pad. It's 280 fully mechanical keys with real travel. It all comes down to what you need when it comes to expression and performance.
@@lumatone Ahh thank you. That explains the high price for lumatone.
Seeing the Lumatone at first it's like yeah ok, think I'd rather stick with a regular layout. Then you see how that layout is explained, that is really interesting and very cool.
The Lumastone is crazy awesome!
Always bringing cool stuff our way!
Glad you like the content!
@@SanjayC i always do 💪
The Easyplay brings accordeon to mind, likewise the Lumatone. Embodme is Close Encounter Of The Third Kind, the film, stuff. :)
One of my favorite MIDI keyboards is less instagrammable-looking than it does a mostly deceiving drumkit impression. I like that you can practically use anything to perform as a midi controller. Waiting for a MIDI out on my Atari 2600 joystick. And then on my washing machine. And then, because I'm not mad enough to spend almost 4K on a lumatone, I'll have mastered the skills to build my own with arcade parts.
The MidiCard looks so cool to take on a travel.
Yeah it’s super cool right?
Cool 💯🤘
I'll stick with the traditional keyboard layout, thanks. 😁
The sheer gall to charge that much for the Erae products. It's just a low pixel density led board with a touch surface.
Making a per-finger pressure sensitive and illuminated surface is actually pretty hard! I've tried making a few DIY ones in the past (some for commercial projects), but I could never get the pressure sensitivity to be consistent across the whole area without being expensive and requiring regular calibration. If the Touch 2 was available and a bit more hackable, I would totally have used it. It's also a niche product, so they have to be able to recoup development costs on relatively few sales.
That's what it looks like... but if you can make one that works as well for much less, I'll buy it. If it only looks the same, but doesn't really work like the Erae does, then no thanks.
@@hamishpain8641 you sir, know what you are talking about. I own the Lumi, Rise 2, and a Seaboard Block and had A Joue Play for a while.
I can confidentely say, that the Rise 2 is the only one of all of them that really nails the MPE pressure.
Second are the Block and Lumi. And the Joue so far far far behind you can't even call it functional for MPE Aftertouch.
Really wish i could try out the haken, osmose and linnstrument for a direct comparison.
Awesome. Lumatone is very cool, although pricey. Osmose I'll ha e to try it is sooo cool. I may just have to buy the little card piano lol
That midicard thing is crazy, right? Thanks for the Super Thanks, AceeSoul!
The Lumatone looks awesome. I preordered the Embodme Erae II. Looks to be excellent. You might might to check out the Koma Chromaplane. Not a keyboard, but it is really innovative.
Hi there!
Quite an interesting unconventional keyboard list!!
Out of these, I have the Limo since day one.... I'm not too found of it.. yes, it's pretty, but the small keys make it uncomfortable to play with and, to truly take advantage, I'd need a second Lumi... But they aren't cheap!
The ExpressivE, looks like from a SciFi movie but definitely looks interesting.
Oh, the Embodme.... Love it!! Musician DeLaurentis performs with one or few, depending on the song, she's a master of it!!!
The Lumatone.... It does have a good advantage, it's easy to play in the dark with 😊
Joking aside, it definitely is an interesting and original device!
Thanks for sharing!
The Lumatone is the instrument everyone wants but few will buy.
Seaboard by Roli is also an interesting keyboard like the Lumi. Plain gray color with no light up keys. Can also do vibrato.
is that lumatone layed out the same way an accordion is?
If you like! You can map it any way you see fit, including using isomorphic modes like Harmonic, Melodic, and Classic. These are modelled after time tested layouts like Wicki-Hayden, Bosanquet, and the Harmonic table. It's an inspiring way to see music and the relationships between notes from a brand new angle. 👍
Pattern playing sounds pretty cool. Setup the pentatonic scale for each key change sequence in a song and can probably learn just about any song without being able to do the same on a piano. The normal chord progressions would be effortless almost. I think that would be super cool to try. If they don't already have software setup like this, they should. You should just put a chord progression in, and let it light up each section seperate. Then you just move along with patterns. Would be so much easier.
I love my LUMI's (I have 2, which fit my desktop perfectly). They look great and inviting, and that per-key pitch bend is insane. The only thing is, I wish they were fullsize keys and not 3/4 width keys (also known as mini keys). As a pianist, I make more errors than I use to, but for more serious play, I of course use other keyboards. So for what it is, the LUMI is pretty cool., and not an expensive addition to a home studio either.
Incredible video!
Wow that last one was really neat!
so cool bro. thanks for showing us.
What really sets the Osmos apart from the rest is that’s it’s just a regular keyboard on the surface. Anyone with any piano experience can instantly start playing with no learning curve whatsoever and then optionally add all kinds of additional expression on top that isn’t available on other keyboards.
0:03 Thanks, I grew it myself
This is really cool though especially the osmose and the lumatone :D
Before I look at the price I would, without a doubt, want the lumatone.
what program did u use for the lumi
knew three of them already, but loved the other ones as well
I hope you have found that the Lumikeys keyboard can show a number of different colour ranges instead of just the red 'c' and white for everything else!
Which piano sound are you using at 17:00?
Lumatone
Lumatone
1st - Osmose
2nd -Lumatone
3rd -Roli Lumi
4th- Joué play
9:57 That Erae Touch looks like the Lite Brite I had back in the 70’s!
Liked the video, didn't like when you said on the lumaton you will learn faster than on a piano. Made it sound like you could learn playing the piano by practicing on a lumaton, which is definitely not the case!
That Lumatone is amazing but I can't afford that one but it's definitely amazing and beautiful
Since I do use an Ableton Push, I would prefer the Lumatone
The osmos looks awesome
Surprised not to see the Theoryboard. haha. I always see that thing on sale, but no way to try it without buying it.
I have a Theoryboard. It has been a disappointment due to the fact that the company never provided a user manual. Instead, there are a number of YT videos where one is expected to figure out how to use. There is no way to know if a particular video answers a question and if so where in the video. I can't recommend the product for that reason alone.
@@avsystem3142 Ya, I've heard that from others as well. It was an interesting midi keyboard, when it came out, but I never opted to get one. I just find it funny, 4+ years later, they are still on sale. Seems like shit marketing and poor support.
Now as demo can you play lá campanella on these keyboards?
So many amazing gadgets, so little amazing music these days. Thanks for the demo though.
what is the name of the controller that Jordan Rudess designed and plays? It's got some kind of green display.
Would have loved to hear your thoughts on the TheoryBoard by Irijule. It takes a very different approach to music construction and cord progression.
By far the best is the Expressive E Osmose. You didn't even mention the sound synthesis ability of that thing using the Eagan Matrix. Which btw is about to get even better in a SW update.
The Lumatone looks inspired by an accordion keyboard. I wonder if there are any similarities in the way it's played.
Hello, Linnstrument? Haaken Continuum? Also, I am disappointed by the Osmose strictly as a keyboard: it is very mushy. Despite its looks, don't expect a full weighted keyboard.
Thank you for your very interesting Video. But you have forgotten "Haken Audio Slim Continuum" Keyboard. Take a look, it's magical too.
Is the Lumitone basically a button Accordion?
Osmose is exceptional.
3:57 tujhe dekha toh yeh jana Sanam 👍🏻
so the lumatone vs linnstrument?
You also missed the seaboard but my vote is on the Linnstrument