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When you say it can go over any wood finish, is that a universal statement? Poly, shellac, oil, hard wax/oil, water based, etc? I guess are there any finishes that are not recommended to coat?
Your presentation and explanations are flawless and great, thank you. That being said you seem to have come out with this finish way after black forest wood came out with their ceramics... So what is the difference? where exactly did you do any developing and didn't just copy theirs or try to find the same / a competing company to produce yours? What solvents are used here? how is the smell? can it be sensibly be used / applied in smaller not too well ventilated shops?
Thank you for your comment. We spent nearly a year developing and testing various formulations of all of our products until we found the combination of components that performed best, and we're confident that our Ceramic Nanofinish outperforms any product on the market today! While the smell from the solvents is noticeable, in any well-ventilated shop it won't present any concerns. All of our coatings are California VOC compliant. If you're particularly sensitive to smells, you might want to consider a respirator, though.
@@carbonmethodco Thanks for the quick reply! Taking that mentioned one year period and the release date of the information i found about carbon method still brings me to the conclusion that the black forest wood co graphene coatings that work in the exact same way and are applied in the exact same way already were on the market when you started looking into this technology or came to market shortly thereafter... And seing all sources and recommendations and mentions of them, they seem to be the absolute best performing 🤔 By now the newest developments also allowed them to skip out on solvents (other than water) You guys are similiar in price point, but you only sell smaller batches at a time which i kinda dislike given my projected need and dislike of waste in packing material etc... might get both solutions and compare directly... Are you being aware of other Graphene based systems that work in the absolute exact same way? Your claim of outperforming any product on the market does seem a bit overambitious
You absolutely should get both systems and compare them directly! A lot of our customers have started out skeptical, but nothing convinces like direct comparison. Try us out, and see whether Carbon Method is the right choice for you!
If this is used as a top coat over Rubio Monocoat will it negatively effect the “repairability” when spot fixing sections? I.e sanding / scuffing an adding a coat of Rubio to a small section to mend a scratch,stain or dent? That’s what gives hard wax finishes a great bonus, as the repair blends right in. Unlike a poly finish that would show the obvious repair. I want to make the Rubio more durable for my bar but also want to be able to repair if needed in the future without leaving behind an obvious color/sheen contrast repair section. Would be a great demonstration video to see as well.
No, sir, it won't negatively affect repairability at all! Repairs work the same: sand down through both layers, then build back up. Our nanofinish blends easily, too. Plus you'll find you won't need to do as many repairs in the first place! Ooh, that IS a good idea for a demonstration video, thank you! **makes a note**
what happpens at the first drop, nick, scratch, drag or cut that a dinning table goes through? just sand and start again? also "its as simple as that" is a bit on the nose for something that is at least 2 days worth of drying
Thankfully, Ceramic Coat is fully repairable! So not only does it make those nicks, scratches, drags, and cuts less likely and less damaging, but also you can sand and re-apply only the affected area - it's very similar to the process you'd use to repair a Rubio Monocoat installation, which is one reason people often apply Ceramic Coat over Monocoat, particularly on those surfaces like dining room tables that take a lot of abuse.
Is the same product sold by Blacktail studios? His product does not include the ceramic care . Which i think should be included. I used his product was not happy with the top coat. It seemed to dull the finish . What are your thoughts on this?
If the table top is seal with two coats of hardwax oil that has fully cured, do you need to do the underside of the table to for moisture exchange? It doesnt seem as important since the table is already sealed? Thanks
This depends on the design of the table. If it's well-supported underneath, coating the top is generally sufficient, but if it's a slab with steel legs, we recommend coating both sides, as hard wax oils don't seal well enough to prevent warping in this scenario.
@@carbonmethodco thanks for the reply. It's a cross lap stretcher underneath with 8 threaded inserts pretty open... maybe just coats of hard coat underneath to seal and I save extra top coat for reapplication in the future?
Of the two, Top Coat is actually the best at sealing fully, as it's a thicker layer, so if you wanted to apply just one of the two to the bottom of the table, Top Coat would be the best choice.
It depends on local conditions, but we generally advice that once you've applied your final layer of Top Coat, you want to allow the fully-coated surface to cure for a minimum of 24 hours - particularly making sure not to introduce water or any other liquids. The coatings will continue to harden for up to 7 days, at which point we consider it "fully cured".
Ceramic Care will extend the time between recoats for sure. Recoating is entirely up to how much wear a given surface sees. If it is a highly used dining room table, you might want to apply an additional 2 layers of Top Coat every year or so. If the piece doesn't receive much use, you may never need to recoat.
Hey Dan, what an amazing application you did, I wonder if you are keen on doing a video testing the Carbon Ceramic system against other competitors as there are some independent UA-camrs who have tested Black Forest or MW or car ceramic products on wood showing that after a couple of hours you indeed see some marks left by the contaminant used (red wine, ketchup and similar). If you truly stand behind what you have I believe it will give you trust from many potential users who otherwise will direct their investment to less quality products.
We have a whole series of comparison videos planned - and not just from us: we know there are some independent UA-camrs out there planning their own comparisons, both of our Ceramic Nanofinish on wood, and our Carbon Coat on metal. We agree that seeing is believing! Who else do you think we should compare our products to? We'd love to get your input!
How much does this cost and where do I buy from? The bottles look so small but it looks as if a little will go a pretty long way! What’s the coverage like? Very well done Dan and team, you guys have obviously spent a lot of time developing this product!
Check out all of our products, with complete details and pricing at CarbonMethod.com. And thank you for the kind words; we developed these products over the past year and we're excited to finally release them!
***UPDATE*** We are now shipping orders with our new Coating Applicator Block System. Please review the instructional video here before usage: ua-cam.com/video/w-P5clW2-oo/v-deo.html
Hey Dan it was nice talking with you. You really cleared things up about ceramic coating.
Thanks Dennis!
Here because of Marc/TWW. Looking forward to learning more about your product.
Thanks for stopping by!
I have scratches on my walnut wood table. Will using this cover the scratches or do I need to have it sanded before I go with this coating
For best results, any scratches should be repaired before applying Ceramic Nanofinish.
When you say it can go over any wood finish, is that a universal statement? Poly, shellac, oil, hard wax/oil, water based, etc? I guess are there any finishes that are not recommended to coat?
We've tried it over every category of finish - including epoxy and even furniture wax - and gotten amazing results every time!
Very nice. What is the expect thickness of the finish?
Approximately 20 microns in thickness, depending on the number of layers applied.
@@carbonmethodco Amazing. Many thanks!
Your presentation and explanations are flawless and great, thank you.
That being said you seem to have come out with this finish way after black forest wood came out with their ceramics...
So what is the difference? where exactly did you do any developing and didn't just copy theirs or try to find the same / a competing company to produce yours?
What solvents are used here? how is the smell? can it be sensibly be used / applied in smaller not too well ventilated shops?
Thank you for your comment. We spent nearly a year developing and testing various formulations of all of our products until we found the combination of components that performed best, and we're confident that our Ceramic Nanofinish outperforms any product on the market today!
While the smell from the solvents is noticeable, in any well-ventilated shop it won't present any concerns. All of our coatings are California VOC compliant. If you're particularly sensitive to smells, you might want to consider a respirator, though.
@@carbonmethodco
Thanks for the quick reply!
Taking that mentioned one year period and the release date of the information i found about carbon method still brings me to the conclusion that the black forest wood co graphene coatings that work in the exact same way and are applied in the exact same way already were on the market when you started looking into this technology or came to market shortly thereafter...
And seing all sources and recommendations and mentions of them, they seem to be the absolute best performing 🤔
By now the newest developments also allowed them to skip out on solvents (other than water)
You guys are similiar in price point, but you only sell smaller batches at a time which i kinda dislike given my projected need and dislike of waste in packing material etc... might get both solutions and compare directly...
Are you being aware of other Graphene based systems that work in the absolute exact same way? Your claim of outperforming any product on the market does seem a bit overambitious
You absolutely should get both systems and compare them directly! A lot of our customers have started out skeptical, but nothing convinces like direct comparison. Try us out, and see whether Carbon Method is the right choice for you!
If this is used as a top coat over Rubio Monocoat will it negatively effect the “repairability” when spot fixing sections? I.e sanding / scuffing an adding a coat of Rubio to a small section to mend a scratch,stain or dent? That’s what gives hard wax finishes a great bonus, as the repair blends right in. Unlike a poly finish that would show the obvious repair. I want to make the Rubio more durable for my bar but also want to be able to repair if needed in the future without leaving behind an obvious color/sheen contrast repair section. Would be a great demonstration video to see as well.
No, sir, it won't negatively affect repairability at all! Repairs work the same: sand down through both layers, then build back up. Our nanofinish blends easily, too. Plus you'll find you won't need to do as many repairs in the first place!
Ooh, that IS a good idea for a demonstration video, thank you! **makes a note**
what happpens at the first drop, nick, scratch, drag or cut that a dinning table goes through? just sand and start again?
also "its as simple as that" is a bit on the nose for something that is at least 2 days worth of drying
Thankfully, Ceramic Coat is fully repairable! So not only does it make those nicks, scratches, drags, and cuts less likely and less damaging, but also you can sand and re-apply only the affected area - it's very similar to the process you'd use to repair a Rubio Monocoat installation, which is one reason people often apply Ceramic Coat over Monocoat, particularly on those surfaces like dining room tables that take a lot of abuse.
@@carbonmethodco us poor aussies dont get the rubio expirience really. I do like the carbon idea for machinery though
Is the same product sold by Blacktail studios? His product does not include the ceramic care . Which i think should be included. I used his product was not happy with the top coat. It seemed to dull the finish . What are your thoughts on this?
It sounds like you connected with customer service by phone earlier today - let us know if there is anything else that we can help with!
If the table top is seal with two coats of hardwax oil that has fully cured, do you need to do the underside of the table to for moisture exchange? It doesnt seem as important since the table is already sealed? Thanks
This depends on the design of the table. If it's well-supported underneath, coating the top is generally sufficient, but if it's a slab with steel legs, we recommend coating both sides, as hard wax oils don't seal well enough to prevent warping in this scenario.
@@carbonmethodco thanks for the reply. It's a cross lap stretcher underneath with 8 threaded inserts pretty open... maybe just coats of hard coat underneath to seal and I save extra top coat for reapplication in the future?
Of the two, Top Coat is actually the best at sealing fully, as it's a thicker layer, so if you wanted to apply just one of the two to the bottom of the table, Top Coat would be the best choice.
How long after applying the ceramic finish before the table can be used?
It depends on local conditions, but we generally advice that once you've applied your final layer of Top Coat, you want to allow the fully-coated surface to cure for a minimum of 24 hours - particularly making sure not to introduce water or any other liquids. The coatings will continue to harden for up to 7 days, at which point we consider it "fully cured".
Will this work on stone?
If the stone has been sealed, it will provide a nice layer of protection!
If we use the ceramic care once a month do we still need to apply additional ceramic coatings (6-12 months)?
Ceramic Care will extend the time between recoats for sure. Recoating is entirely up to how much wear a given surface sees. If it is a highly used dining room table, you might want to apply an additional 2 layers of Top Coat every year or so. If the piece doesn't receive much use, you may never need to recoat.
Hey Dan, what an amazing application you did, I wonder if you are keen on doing a video testing the Carbon Ceramic system against other competitors as there are some independent UA-camrs who have tested Black Forest or MW or car ceramic products on wood showing that after a couple of hours you indeed see some marks left by the contaminant used (red wine, ketchup and similar). If you truly stand behind what you have I believe it will give you trust from many potential users who otherwise will direct their investment to less quality products.
We have a whole series of comparison videos planned - and not just from us: we know there are some independent UA-camrs out there planning their own comparisons, both of our Ceramic Nanofinish on wood, and our Carbon Coat on metal. We agree that seeing is believing!
Who else do you think we should compare our products to? We'd love to get your input!
Does this get applied to bare wood or over an existing finish? Or both?
Our Ceramic is what we call a Nano Finish, it goes over any wood finish, adds protection and looks stunning!
@@carbonmethodco thanks
Does any include also surfaces that are oiled?
How much does this cost and where do I buy from?
The bottles look so small but it looks as if a little will go a pretty long way!
What’s the coverage like?
Very well done Dan and team, you guys have obviously spent a lot of time developing this product!
Check out all of our products, with complete details and pricing at CarbonMethod.com. And thank you for the kind words; we developed these products over the past year and we're excited to finally release them!
Cam at Blacktail literally just copied your entire application guide video.
I believe Cam is using Carbon Method product and they are allowing him to market it under his name. A little co-branding.