3 BIG Z13 eGPU Problems! Thunderbolt or XG Mobile?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- The ASUS ROG Flow Z13 can use either a Thunderbolt eGPU, or ASUS’s own XG Mobile. Here’s why a Thunderbolt setup should be avoided at all costs!
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XG Mobile vs Thunderbolt eGPU Comaprison Timestamps:
0:00 I Cannot Recommend Thunderbolt eGPU
0:10 Thunderbolt eGPU vs XG Mobile
0:56 GPU Spec Differences
1:32 Thunderbolt & PCIe Limitations
2:14 1st Big Problem!
2:52 2nd Big Problem!
3:58 3rd Big Problem!
6:33 4th Big Problem!
6:45 12 Game Comparison (XG Mobile vs Thunderbolt)
12:04 12 Game Average (1080p)
12:39 12 Game Average (1440p)
12:53 12 Game Average (4K)
13:16 3DMark
13:28 Power Draw
13:49 Content Creation
14:37 Don’t Use Thunderbolt eGPU With Z13!
15:49 AMD or Nvidia XG Mobile? 6850M XT vs 3080
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1:28 Meant to say GDDR6X for the desktop card!
So the 3080 XG has 16gb of gddr6? I would love to have that card for desktop.
@@santiagoferrari1973 No, the XGM is a mobile GPU, so no GDDR6X, just the desktop card.
ASUS could create a new product for the x13 and z13 called "XG Desktop" wich is a eGPU enclosure with a DESKTOP GPU instead of a mobile, that would be sick ! specially if you're planning on upgrading later and buy the laptop first :3c
We need the thunderbolt 5 for that with the new gpus coming soon. Asus is definitely going to release an XG MOBiLE with an rtx 4070 or rx 7700 xt. And the flow lineup of laptops will come with the amd phoenix cpu that
(according to leaks) it will dethrone the rtx 3060 mobile :V
I would love to see an external desktop dock like this for the xg connector. Like the msi gs30 shadow before it. The was a really cool concept that sold in very small volumes but had an external dock like the port-replicators for business notebooks. This dock had a full size Gen 3 16x slot and room for a 3.5" HDD.
Hahahaha I wrote the same after I read you did before heheheheh
The link is still pcie 3.0 x8, so bandwith would be an issue with higher end cards. But a full power 3060 ti will likely be faster and cheaper than this 3080
@@ivanbrasla still higher bandwidth than Thunderbolt 4 tho, 63 GBps vs 40 GBPS
I think dockstations for laptops should come back. You have you base laptop with a low power GPU and a dock using PCI-E x16 with a more poweful GPU por higher demanding games.
Heck yeah! The Apple Powerbook Duos were amazing
Very true. Light and travel friendly laptop during day, heavy-duty gaming rig in the night
IBM/Lenovo used to have that in the past, a docking station with a GPU enclosure built into it, it was WAY too slow for gaming and only really useful for connecting multiple displays, but this was 2003 or something, quite revolutionary for its time.
Thanks for giving the Z13 so much attention!
A word of caution, some folks have reported battery damage when connecting two separate power sources via the USB-C ports (a la having the eGPU and the ASUS charger). Another fun fact about the engineering, no doubt. :)
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This is one of the most awesome videos on the ROG Flow ecosystem anywhere! Thanks for this information; saved me from reinvesting in a TB eGPU enclosure.
Glad it was helpful!
I've been waiting for this since you announced it three months ago so let me thank you very much for your persistance in making it work!
No worries!
Nice thank you for testing Jarrod!
What would interest me now is how do other laptops/tablets similar to the Z13/X13 compare to these results using an eGPU
Thank you so much for all you do Jarrod. You never fail to deliver and keep everyone updated about everything. Always wanted the best for your supporters when making purchases. Much appreciation by giving every detail about things, With full truth and honesty a real trustworthy person with great intentions.
I appreciate that!
The best laptop reveiwer in UA-cam.
I’m glad you finally got this video out. I had my hopes up since no one over on Reddit had any solutions. I ended up returning mine because if I was playing on just the tablet with the included charger it would actually drain the battery. So atleast from my experience the tablet uses more than 100w while gaming. After about three hours I was below half charge. So this product needs some work. I’m still hopeful they can address these issues as I would love to use one of these daily as my mobile device of choice.
This was filmed with 2022 ASUS Flow Z13. I'm eager to find out if the just released 2023 models resolved the poor Thunderbolt performance.
Thank you for making subtitles for your videos, I'm from Russia and in order to understand your videos well, I use google translate and it perfectly conveys your thoughts
Thank you so much Jarrod, this is invaluable! I got a Z13 recently, yesterday actually played AC:Valhalla on it for most of the day, with some settings turned down, it maintained 60+ pretty much all day, and was a great experience. I had watched your other video comparing the 6850M XT and 3080 XG Mobiles and there definitely seemed to be some surprising performance lacks with the 6850. Have you gotten any word, or done any subsequent testing since, to see if there have been improvements to the 6850M since? I'm looking at the XG mobile and the 6850 version seems to be the easier one to get a hold of. Thanks!
4:32 I was thinking that no matter which USB-C cable you are using, the power, if the battery is full, will go directly onto the motherboard. So basically the same mechanism as you are using those dedicated 230W charger for designated power ports on larger devices.
would love to see an updated version of this video with the coming 4090 xg version.
also, have seen ROG do a desktop version enclosure called the XG station 2.(which looks discontinued)
im wondering if it would play nicer due to being same manufacturer?
Did you disable dGPU (3050) when doing your testing ? Nvidia EGPU with Nvidia DGPU are known to cause stuttering when both activated. You should got 14500-15000 Timespy score with dGPU disable. That said, I tested similar setup with the Z13 and got the same charging / CPU profile issue.
Congrats on 500K!!!
now let's wait for him to reach one million, he deserves it
Thank you for going through all this trouble to make this video
No worries!
so we just need to wait for 3rd party eGPUs with XG Mobile connector :P
That's not going to happen. Nobody is going to want to jump through those hoops for such a small market. At least thunderbolt docks are supported by just about every laptop over $1200. The XG mobile connector is on like 3 Asus laptops. It just doesn't make sense to invest the RND. As cool as it would be to have that, it's unlikely.
@@Jackofafewtrades I'm pretty sure with the crapton of useless junk out there some company would love to be the only one in the market to profit off those devices' userbase ;) especially if they continue to use the connector in future models!
Since the XG mobile connector is proprietary and unique only to a subset of Asus laptops, I don't foresee any 3rd party eGPU enclosure manufacturers like Razer or Sonnet wasting time and resources to build a device with such a connector. Because no one would buy it except for those who have an Asus laptop with the connector.
But what Asus has shown however, is it's possible to offer an external PCIe solution with power delivery and more pcie lanes than thunderbolt. So instead of 40 Gbps max, you get what 60 or 80 Gbps ?
Until intel launches TB5, this could be a good solution. But the reason why thunderbolt is good is because it encapsulates various signals along the same wire: pcie, ethernet, DisplayPort, usb, and power delivery. I don't think this Asus solution encapsulates the same signaling.
But if other manufacturers could form a consortium and agree to interoperate using the XG mobile connector form factor (or some other common form factor) then this would probably drive broader industry adoption of the tech for eGPUs at least. But since Radeon and Nvidia mobile solutions are becoming even stronger, I don't think any of the manufacturers will dedicate capital to do it. Motherboard manufacturers would have to be onboard as well.
@@j340_official I mean as far as I remember, Dell's graphics connector on some Alienware laptops was better than TB3. And Microsoft's surface connect also has pcie throughput that's supposedly better than TB3. For what it's worth, others have tried but I don't think any have licenced the tech.
@@Jackofafewtrades I don’t think the surface connect had more than 4 lanes of pcie 3.0, and either way, while the surface dock had options for supporting monitors and such, you still couldn’t connect external pcie nvme storage or pcie Ethernet or even a pcie gpu.
Microsoft didn’t adopt tb3 because it felt the tech was potentially unsafe due to DMA attacks. But tb4 mandates dma memory protection so now Microsoft offers tb4. Tb4 is good but given that nvme storage now maxes out at 4 lanes of pcie4.0 and later this year nvme drives will adopt pcie5.0 and offer over 12,000 MB/sec… tb4 is starting to look very dated. It’s time for intel to move on and either offer pcie4.0 speeds or even pcie5.0 if a 3 ft copper cable can support such bandwidth.
This is exactly the sort of content I was looking for as I am in the process of upgrading to a Asus Flow Z13 from a surface pro 8 with an egpu 3080. I was curious whether to just use the XG Mobile or an egpu.
I am really hoping to see an xg mobile version of nvidia 4000 mobile series in the future. I hope asus continues to make such laptops like Flow x13 and z13 with their own gpu enclosure. Portability of a tablet, convenience of a laptop, performance close to a full-fledged gaming desktop!! Sure it is a niche market, but this device was an experiment itself, and I can see the growing interest.
Well, well, well, what do you know. This has happened!
You did a great job. Thank you!!!!
Thanks Jarrod. Great analysis!
About type-C charging, I am using type-C charging in my Legion 7 for quite a while now. Does it also use battery-as-a-buffer for USB-C charging? In that case, am I slowly decreasing my battery life while doing that?
I actually didn't know so many issues existed with an eGPU.
After watching this, I would probably refrain from recommending anyone an eGPU atleast until the performance is on par the hassle.
Just get a good laptop with that eGPU money.
Thin and lights are also packing a punch now
Sup asus slaveboy, seems like my words became true
This problem is with this particular device, not common to all laptops. If you have any gaming laptop with TB3 or TB4, you'll get pretty decent performance with egpu dock.
I've been recommending against e-gpu's since jarrod did his last video. I agree with you on just buying a laptop with a better GPU. I personally think the ideal setup is desktop at home, lightish laptop for travel.
A laptop is less modular though. And a two device setup would have issues with syncing game saves and mods.
@@123Suryasis False. The problems with this device are seprate but the bandwidth bottleneck can't be sorted out unless more powerful connection is made. That is why an eGPU performs way worse than properly installed desktop GPU. I hope to see what TB5 brings and if it will solve the bottleneck issues but probably not since GPUs will keep getting more powerful too
Hey Jarrod, great video yet again mate. I purchased the Z13 last week as I travel a lot with work and wanted something smaller than my ROG Zephyrus Duo with a 3080 in it. I found that when I connected a Bonelk USB to HDMI cable into the bottom USB C port and then plugged the Asus 100W power brick into the power in part of the Bonelk dongle (which is rated to 100W) the Z13 says the power input is not enough and completely stopped charging. I was playing Minecraft with the kids and i suffered detrimental frame drops down to completely unplayable. Then I discovered I had 5% battery left so obviously there was the problem. Do I understand correctly that despite the Bonelk dongle being 100W compatible, it is being reduced to 60W ?? Thansk for the help.
Out of curiosity, did you play test the games on an external monitor connected to the epgu? Or was the testing done with games playing on the z13 direct?
I’m having trouble even getting egpu to work goes to black screen on boot. When I plug after running the computer will not run on egpu it stays on internal gpu.
Any recommendations?
1:03 but more than twice the tgp, while the performance difference is barely half times more, well it depends if you just want raw power, but not quite efficient, though I'll take your consideration using the general external desktop means much more future proof, or at least more options if ever changing device
Did you ensure you disabled the onboard graphics card in device manager? My eGPU has huge issues if I try to run the internal and external GPUs simultaneously....
Hello, I also wanted to use a gigabyte EGPU, but it did not see it, it gave an error code and restarted the system continuously. As far as I understand, it only knows its own product and the others do not work?
I would wait for an updated z13 with RTX 4060/4070 next year, egpu is not worth the hassle. Maybe make a z14/15 variant?
Would you make some test on diff laptop? Legion maybe?
I (or maybe we all) want to know the result on another laptop.. Better, same, or even worst?
Thanks a lot..
Hi. Can you do a review where the egpu is connected to the thunderbolt port? Based on your setup the egpu is connected to the type C port where as the charger is connected to the actual thunderbolt port. I already have this machine and was planning to buy an egpu or the xg mobile. This will really help me decide. Thank you 😊
If thunderbolt 4 performs with terribly with 40gbps bandwidth and Pcie.gen3, I'm curious how thunderbolt 5 will do with external GPUs if it does actually end up with 80gbps bandwidtha and Pcie.gen4
hi, on this subject, which laptops would you recommand for a egpu setup ? (light weights but equipped with a suitable thunderbolt plug).
The 3dmark pcie bandwidth benchmark would make an interesting comparison between the dgpu , thunderbolt 3080 and the xg mobile 3080 laptop. may shed light on funky behavior of the thunderbolt connection
I forgot about that one, but think I did it in last year's video with the X13
@@JarrodsTech If you still have them, run them and put it in the description if you wouldn't mind pls.
I think the results would be interesting
i wont get any fans spinning when i plug in the razer chroma in the thunderbolt slot. flow z13 2022, any idea what i need to install or prepare for that? i am out of ideas after some days in several rog flow threads online...
i have had the same problems since March, My device is Asus ROG G533ZM, but suddenly it has a blue screen when I connect the Razer Core X, and now is not usable.
Very nice video, make me wonder are these issues happens to Flow X13 too?
Cuz I am planning on getting either one for my own, and doesn't want to pair their gpu but mine existing gpu🤔
Hi, I need to use the asus Z13 to switch video with the vMix application, using an external thunderbolt case specifically the Echo Express SE IIIe plus BlackMagic Duo 2 capture cards, in your experience could you please help me with some information about whether would work.
The machine comes with Win11 home that has no Bitlocker support, so how can it be enabled? Having to run the charger _and_ the enclosure is a hassle though... But it does work fine (for me).
The power limits happen with all kind of 100w USB-PD chargers. They just only allow the turbo profile with the official charger.
You can use ThrottleStop to just override it and set it to 50watt (or more! It turbo's at 90w out of the box, so it can handle it for a while!) though.
I set the GPU mode to 'eco' first (to disable the built-in rtxs3050ti) and then connect a Sapphire Pulse GearBox with a 6700XT in it. I can't compare to the XG-dock since I don't have it, but it performs fine from what I feel.
Sure, ASUS might decide to give us an XG dock with a desktop GPU slot (and maybe a SATA port to connect an HDD or a SATA SSD)
But what if we could jury rig one using the cable and connector of the XG Mobile and some soldering on a third-party eGPU?
The 65W max power delivery through third party chargers is a deal breaker. From what Asus said it doesn’t look like this issue will ever be addressed either. Shame.
It's understandable when the majority of 3rd party products are straight junk.
Does the z13 and external GPU overheat? I'm thinking of selling my desktop PC and instead hook the z13 up to my monitors but am afraid of heating issues.
I sincerely hope supply and pricing just gets better for the XG mobile is all I'm thinking as a z13 owner in aus
Hey jarrod i have a question to ask you and i really thunk you can answer it for me... I have a asus vivobook 15 x512 laptop but i want to use a external graphics card setup to improve on my radeon vega 8 graphics... Do you thibk its possible to do and if so is there any egpu you could recommend to me to get for my laptop
I dont know why thunderbolt egpu's are still stuck with 4 lanes pcie gen3, when we have pcie gen5 now. Only thing I can think of is the cable. It would be such a huge boost if they made it use gen5 even if it remains 4 lanes. Would like to see a test with a more mainstream device if the same thunderbolt issues are seen, or its just the z13.
It's because of bandwidth limitation of the cable.
Actually there is standard external pcie connection, i.e. oculink, that can handle up to 80 gbps.
But instead of being common in consumer pc, oculink is used more in server.
@@mzamroni oculink is also very expensive
So I have a dell xps 15 9520 and I saw a lot of the same things as he did. The gpu would crash at least once before it would just reboot and not have that issue anymore. After a driver update it worked flawlessly with connection and disconnection. The bandwidth limitation doesn't affect me in all titles, just the ones from about 3 years ago onward. The CPU will be your next big bottleneck. Get at least a 6 core or higher cpu with 28 watts or higher if you don't want to be cpu limited. My dell xps 15 9520 doesn't limit me to 30 watts when connected with egpu power, just make sure you get an enclosure with 85-100 watts of charging if you don't want to drain the battery under load.
Overall I think the biggest takeaway is that the convenience of the laptop form factor and the power of the eGPU is great if what you do isn't maxing out your system. It's a maliable package to fit in a variety of packages and keeps you're laptop cooler since the internal screen isn't always used and the iGPU isn't active. If you truly want best bang for the buck and or what more customizability then go desktop and a middling laptop although this will separate you're data into 2 places and might require an external storage solution for better data sharing.
The distance is more limited with PCIe 4 and even more limited with PCIe 5.
Hi, im an architect, Is less performance caused by bottle neck created by thunderbolt for data transfer!? FPS is clearly affected because the data transfer is more faster and the thunderbolt cannot handle it. But the setup would probably help in situations such as rendering (not in games) when less data transfer is required, right?
Hai jarrod did u ever test this xg mobile vs rtx 3080 laptop?which one is better between xg mobile and 3080 laptop?
@JarrodsTech is an eGPU with a thin and light still worth it now?
Did you check while doing TB eGPU tests what was the GPU TDP?
So this same issue is NOT happening with the X13 right? Just the Z13?
I don't use armory crate to monitor status and etc, just use throttle stop to better manage power, speed and Temps on the Intel chip
Can you do the test with the new 2023 versions of Asus Flow's laptops?❤
Jarrod why won’t you check out The latest eGPU from AMd in the flow X16?
Jarrod, Is it the same thing for x13?
Is the thunderbolt problem only with the z 13 or is this normal with all thunderbolt gpus?
Wouldn't it be difficult to resell the XG mobile 3080 compared to a desktop 3080 gpu?
Have anybody any idea when is Lenovo legion 7i 2022 gonna release????
Hey Jarrods, will we have a first impression of the ROG Strix Scar 15 SE?
Not sure how much I buy ASUS's reason for third party USB-C chargers not working. We've seen plenty of laptops with good Thunderbolt implementations that are fine taking 100w of charge from the eGPU's power input. Seems like a design oversight or hardware design error they're trying to play off as a safety feature or something. IIRC Asus already has laptops with decent thunderbolt implementations so it doesn't make any sense to me. More I think about it, the more it seems like sabotaging the Thunderbolt eGPU experience to convince people to buy an XGm. Not super sure how I feel about this all... Would definitely need a bit more technical info from ASUS IMO to be fully satisfied
Yeah, it's definitely a bit strange. 🤔
Are the currently existing problems still prominent in the 2023 z13 model though?
Hey man, you seem smart af and familiar with these device... my z13 has recently stopped charging whole using the xg mobile. I thought the tb4 in the xg port was bad, but after running some tests. The tb4 still works on the xg port... the xg mobile decides to stop charging when I "engage" the xg mobile link software... any advice or thoughts on what I can do to fix this so it keeps charging while connected to the xg mobile.
Thunderbolt 4 is still not good enough for this task or is this just z13 problem ?
I guess ill just grab AMD+Rtx configuration laptop later end of the year.
Well. Thankfully I have an older system that doesn't have bitlocker. I looked this up because I'm ready to upgrade but idk anymore.
I am so sad to know that it’s no possible. I have a SP8 and Core X with 3070. It works flawlessly. But I don’t like SP8’s CPU, it’s only a quad core and not enough for my use for work. The Flow z13 is the only tablet that has better CPU ( wait, I know Dell has one coming too but my other reason next tells that Dell is not what I want ) and a kickstand. I love kickstand, I don’t use it on my lap and I use it all the time to watch movies or videos when I am standing in kitchen or lying on my bed, without a keyboard. Anyway, I don’t want to throw out everything I have and then buy a z13 with the XG Mobile that is not even future proof. Thank you for the explanation of the problems, it’s very helpful for me to decide not to buy it or else I will have to go full trade in with the XG Mobile.
I think you should test the TB setup with other laptops to see if it's a vendor or Intel specific problem.
He has. Multiple times.
@@Terreos with 12th gen?
Hello
what was the cpu inside your z13 ?
2 months on working with z13 and it went dead lights on but no booting up, geek squad changed motherboard for 3 months first 2 days back on it keeps shutting down randomly and sweating while starting up like needs at least 5 min for it be able open application smooth….maybe I am just unlucky like that but what a purchase🤦🏻♂️
@Jarrod'sTech hi Jarrod, I have an Asu tuf f15 (2021 Intel one) I am planning to upgrade ram to 16gb form 8 gb . first I thought just to buy a 8gig with same speeds as the one which comes pre-installed but when I want to Task manager it shows me slot 1of4 equipped first it doesn't made any sense as on the website it's was said that it only has 2 slots.i reconfirm the slots through hwinfo... SO MY QUESTION IS SHOULD I GO QUAD CHANNEL OR DUAL CHANNEL WITH RAM UPGRADE...
there are only 2 ram slots thats just a software reporting error.
Jarrod congrats on the content, greetings from Greece, really appreciated. I have a razer blade 15” advanced touch 4k with a 2080 With the 8-core, 16-thread Core i7-10875H comet lake in and I am considering getting the chroma x and adding an Rtx 3090. My main concern is since chroma x is Pcie 3.0, wouldn’t that bottleneck and throttle my 3090 that is pcie 4.0 ? I need it for blender 3D rendering . Would please help me out on this issue explaining what and If I should reconsider not doing it in terms of performance?
I doubt it matters, the Thunderbolt overhead would matter more.
Thanx mate. Was considering buying one of these with my tax return. Big nope now. Appreciate you saving me headaches as I'm an avid egpu user.
Glad I could help
Why Asus don't make a external GPU box with a power supply and the flow conector, so we can put any GPU we want , that would be so easy for them to do it, would make more sells for the Flow series notebooks and people could have any gpu they want, also because the xg flow gpu is always out stock.
I hope this comment reaches to you. I am a mechanical engineering student starting this fall who is looking for a really nice laptop in price range upto 1500 dollars. The thing is we need a laptop capable enough to run heavy softwares like CAD, Solid works and I would be really grateful if you could make a recommendation list for us engineers. You're only one of the few ones I can trust so please consider my request
Jarrod..... this all testing with the output to the Laptop. What are the results if it's pumped out through the eGPU to an external monitor?
Testing done on both laptop and external screen. The game graphs include each resolution on the monitor as well as on the laptop.
@@JarrodsTech thanks will rewatch. The fact that you replied+ thoroughness to this is why you're my go-to reference to ALL my friends and IT colleagues.
May I ask what is the update asus rolled out in myasus to fix the problem of going blue screen after plugging in external graphics card?
Not sure, I don't have any specifics like a version number or anything to share.
I had an XG mobile 3080 and sold it and got a steam deck. I was looking at the prices of XG Mobile 4090 incase I ever wanted to get back into gaming on the laptop and its ridiculous, over 2000 USD!
I wish asus starts including the xg mobile port on the Zephyrus and Strix series too.
I have a Z13 i9 and a new Razer Core X with an Asus branded 1080TI. ... Blue screen all the time. Very annoying. I did the updates.. Crate and MyAsus ... Still getting blue screens. :(
Sounds about right :(
I learned that the Flow X16 has a 125w 3070Ti configuration today, and it makes me wonder why you'd need an XG mobile with it. Are there advantages to having two GPUs in a device? Is that even heard of for a laptop?
Nope, You will use one or another, gap between 3070ti with high wattage compare to low wattage 3080m can be one digit. It’s profitable only if you have 3050tim as maximum
So is this eGPU problem common across all laptops, or unique to just Asus? Also, is the same observation true if you use a Radeon card? Could it be an NVIDIA problem? Also, perhaps Asus gimped thunderbolt eGPU performance to incentivize buying their non-thunderbolt solution? Perhaps there's a bios setting to tweak thunderbolt settings? Allocate more memory to thunderbolt devices?
It could be an z13 issue. I haven't encountered this level of issues with other laptops.
Its just a bit odd , im using the i9 variant + egpu setup (razer core v2 + 6600xt) but i didnt encounter any of this, in fact the performance was what youd really expect on an egpu(around 10-15% lower compared if the 6600xt was plugged in a desktop).
Except on the 3rd party charging, it only pushes 65w max.
Will the problem be resolved if I buy an eGPU that supports PD 100W?
@@qategori_ Hello, this is really an old post lol, but hey.
It is not about the chargers capability to 100w tho.
Any other charger, including egpus will only charge the z13 to 65 watt even it is capable to push 100w .
Whats your egpu problem?
Im still using this egpu setup up till today as im writing this, and performance is still a beast(if youd like to know the status of this setup)
In my opinion, if you buy XG Mobile, it can't be used on other laptops that support TB3. So I decided to buy an eGPU so I can use it on other devices.
I was planning to buy XG Station Pro + 5500 xt, but when I saw this video I had doubts. What do you think? Am I better off using the same eGPU as you?
@@qategori_ Yes true, you cant use the XG mobile on non asus products, they use proprietary connector for that.
Same reason why I went for an EGPU so that I can use it on other devices that has thunderbolt / usb 4.
Im not really sure about the compatibility of XG Station Pro on z13, what I had tested was the razer core only, and it works flawlessly .
@@againstallodds4196 Well, thank you for the opportunity to answer my question. Nice to meet you here so that you can help me get information for my decision.
One can only hope that the propietrary soluton from ASUS X13/X15/X16, becomes some sort of stanandard. It rocks the hell out of a Thunderbolt 4/USB4 solution. Sure it's the mobile version, but considering that it whacks the hell out of a $15000 cheadeper card.
Every time I see this product I just get mad that they aren't using a full desktop card in the XG mobile. What a ridiculous missed opportunity.
What laptop works best with the egpu ?
Can anyone enlighten me, what if a game already requires more than 16gb DRAM in a 3050 setup, when change it to xg mobile 3080, will it help to reduce the DRAM usage? Because if not, the z13 + xg mobile lose their purpose as it intended to allow users for a better graphics texture and performance.
Id like you to do a review on the new asus proart pd50 towers.
What about an eGPU with a Thinkpad X1 fold?
imagine we could use desktop gpu with xg mobile connection. it would have been so great since technically xg mobile version of connecting external gpu is more powerful ( i am talking about the connection not aboit gpu ). example:- if there is a similar external gpu closure that uses desktop gpu just as thunderbolt but using pcie+type c connection of xg mobile then xg version would guve more performance with same desktop gpu compare to thunderbolt. i wish someone create a custom xg connection based external desktop gpu closure or amd would let others to experiment with xg mobile connection
Still waiting on the budget options you are mainly focused on the high end laptops this year. Waiting for the nitro 5 2022
I'm covering what I'm able to get. I mentioned in the A15 video how I asked for more budget devices from brands, but they rarely send them.
We have completed testing the Z13 with Akitio Node Pro TB3 along with RTX A4000 and A5000 for a year. Application like Resolve Studio, Fusion Studio and Blender runs great on both eGPU A4000 and A5000.
However, we found that battery wear is far worse than HP Mobile Workstation and Dell. Just exactly at 10 months use of balance battery setup at 80% of its capacity, the battery capacity dropped 11% already at 89% now. Our 2 years HP Zbook 17 battery is able to keep the battery capacity at 98% (losing 2%) with HP optimized battery setup.
And replacing the battery only in Indonesia for the Z13 at the auth service center asked us to leave it with them for 5 days. This is unacceptable.
So, we recommend anyone trying to get expensive portables, should seek for further information of the local support, if making it the primary rig, before making the decision to spend heavy $$$.
Bang apakah eGPU Asus Xg Station Pro bisa digunakan di z13?
Jared I confess to being a piker when it comes to computer technology and probably maybe understood an eighth of this entire video, but I still love your presentation
hah, thanks!
Pity, I have a ROG Ally and was thinking I can use the RTX3080 in my desktop when I upgrade. Seems not worth it. Asus would be amazing if they bring out a XG mobile enclosure that accepts desktop GPU’s.
Hello. As I trust u on laptops, would like ur help plz. I had high end desktop for design and render but sadly need a laptop and had to sell my pc. I don't see workstation laptops in ur videos so may I ask u, am planning on getting laptop and eGPU ( Rtx 5000 or Rtx a5000 laptop ) and the egpu ( rtx 4090 or 3090) . Would you inform me or recommend me plz?
Yeah we only cover gaming models as there is far less interest in workstation models. eGPU for gaming isn't great, but for 3D rendering workloads like Blender there isn't too much performance loss.
@@JarrodsTech should I get latest cpu laptop to avoid boatlnack or 10th / 11th gen will be fine . And thanks alot for responding ❤
hey jarrod, i've always had this doubt. I would like to know if i can connect a 240hz monitor to a 144hz laptop.
I think Jarrod can correct me if I’m wrong but you can connect anything with anything, problem is cable and ports. use at least hdmi 2.1 or displayport 2.0 with certified cables
Yup, what art lew says. The limitation would be the hdmi. I find this useful for checking: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video
Jarrod Please Recommend 17" laptop under $2000 good for gaming and video editing.
dont expect asus to update their laptop issues that seem to trend with asus. if you run into a bug with the asus laptop get rid the laptop asap there goner other you run into that the likely never fix.
any update for current situation using EGPU RTX PC ?
would be nice if there is update sir !
No change, Thunderbolt 4 still sucks, maybe Thunderbolt 5 will be better as it has 80/120gbps rather than 40.
@@JarrodsTech thanks for reply, very appreciated 👍
Hi Jarrod , do review dell g15 i7 12 gen rtx 3070ti version.
Thanks Man
Hello from Ukraine! 🇺🇦
Thank you for your channel. You helped me a lot about choosing my gaming laptop.
That's great!
Какой выбрал?)
@@vladimirokhrimchuk Привіт. Вибрав Lenovo legion 5.
@@denysbarakov хороший выбор, особенно если с 3070
@@vladimirokhrimchuk У мене вистачило бюджету на Ryzen 7, RTX 3050 TI, 16 gb ram, 165 гц.