I honestly like the pacing. It’s a really stark contrast to most shounen anime where it takes forever for the plot to move. I love the zero filler fast moving. It feels like they’re actually living in a crazy world where they’re struggling to keep up with the evil they’re fighting. When you’re constantly fighting evil, these people you meet you don’t always get to spend a ton of time together, yet you’re putting your life on the line for them. Like junpei and riko. I like the pacing
I agree with this sentiment as well. An author being willing to kill off their characters can be interesting, and it can lead to an overall more interesting and emotionally cathartic/satisfying narrative. But when you kill characters off just for the sake of killing them off, without having developed the character enough for the audience to care and have their death meaningully impact the story, then what's the point? Nobara pretty much just got stuffed in a fridge.
The impression I got when I started watching this anime is that it wasn't going to last long because everything feels very superficial. In Bleach, being in Soul Society or in Hueco Mundo, you felt immersed in it, but here a group of 3 people per year where one of them has already died makes me think that it is impossible for this organization to have survived for this long. The other thing is that with series in which everyone dies, the characters no longer matter to me, they are just bodies of people we met 5 minutes ago.
Nowhere did I see this take, even though I was always questioning myself throughout the show, "This shit's cool, but why don't I care?". Turns out, Gege never even tried to get you to care. Also, Inumaki lost his arm 'cause he was in the range of Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine/Kitchen (not a manga reader, so this is not a spoiler).
@@ontheriseav I'm still not entirely sure tho. Like, why specifically his arm when hundreds, if not thousands got killed from being in his range? I just got that from Yuta saying that it was Yuji's fault, only way that can happen is Sukuna. Maybe Yuta saved him from getting killed entirely idk.
I didn't finish season 1 of JJK but for some reason I'm always fascinated by the discussions surrounding it. And this is one of them. I've always wondered why I lost interest in something that should be right up my alley and maybe the pacing is a contributing factor. This might better help me articulate myself in future discussions, so thanks for that. Also, love what you did with your hair. Looking 🔥🔥👌
Agree with your take here well put. I will say Rika in Hidden Inventory actually felt perfectly fine for me. As a Star Vessel whatever her whole thing was being dragged into a world she had no idea about. The SoL comedy moments with her and Gojo gave enough on her being the "rich family girl" and her death felt about as impactful as I'd want it to. Keep in mind I really loved Hidden Inventory so I'm definitely biased towards her character. Still doesn't detract from ur main point imo, you cooked 🔥
I completely agree with this video And in my honest opinion the thing jjk lacks that makes every good story good and usually is underrated when it comes to writing is emotion. Jjk lacks emotion because the pacing is so fast and characters get introduced so fast just to die. To be honest the peak of emotional writing in jjk was during mahito vs yuji and todo A lot of people don’t realize that a character can be well written but emotionally uninteresting
Damn as much I love JJk the characters,the power system,etc but even I have to agree that yeah JJk has a pacing and character death problem. As someone who is caught up in the manga I miss the slice of life moments we used to have. Then there’s the character death take Nobara she had so much potential, and the death is still a bit ambiguous.
One final note: the death of Nobara was symbolic of the death of innocence. Past the Shibuya Arc things only spiral more out of control for modern Japan and all the remaining characters. There is a reason her death was so abrupt and it's not bad writing in the slightest.
⭐️🔥👏🏾👏🏾”W JJK VIDEO BRO”👏🏾👏🏾🔥⭐️ & ALSO 12:42 ABOUT INUMAKI LOSING HIS ARM? IT WAS SUKUNA WHEN HE USE HIS “DOMAIN EXPANSION” AGAINST MAHORAGA. INUMAKI IS VERY LUCKY HE ONLY LOST A ARM & SURVIVED. BECAUSE SUKUNA’S DOMAIN EXPANSION 200 METER-RADIUS MAX BUT HE LIMITED TO 140 METER-RADIUS(CAUSE MEGUMI WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE 200 METERS. HE DIDN’T WANT TO KILL MEGUMI) SO IF INUMAKI WAS AROUND THE 200 METERS. HE PROBABLY WOULD’VE DIE. IF SUKUNA DIDN’T LIMIT HIS DOMAIN EXPANSION. OVERALL AGAIN ⭐️🔥👏🏾👏🏾”W JJK VIDEO”👏🏾👏🏾🔥⭐️ & ⭐️🔥🙏🏾”KEEP ON BEING FREAKING GOATED BRO”🙏🏾🔥⭐️
2:29: So I completely disagree. AoT's route always relied on the shock of a death to compel the reader whereas JJK takes on the Hirohiko Araki approach of killing characters. Where everyone is fighting in a "meta". The protagonists you root for may or may not guess the right matchups (like if this were a fighting or Dota style game) but they can't make the right call 100% of the time. So whenever a protagonist falls like Nanami, there's express reasons for why they fell. JJK favors utility and expanding your know-how of how your abilities work and interact with others in it's "magic" system (for lack of a better word). Had an entire write-up on manga-only deaths but I'll try to avoid spoilers due to this being an anime-only channel I assume at 3:01 when you mention Junpei. Junpei didn't need to be a pre-established character for the impact to have a lasting impact on Yuji. Remember, Yuji isn't like other sorcerors. Go back to that time where he and Nobara executed the cursed womb painting brothers. Nobara justifies their survival as being more necessary than theres hence she feels no remorse or guilt at killing what are essentially mutated humans. But what did Yuji do? He still said that while he recognizes this "tears were shed that day." He pays respects to the fallen REGARDLESS of whether or not they were enemy combatants. Why wouldn't a death like Junpei sink into a personality like Yuji's head? The immediate shock of his death is reminescent of the immediate shock of Riko's death at the hands of Toji. Notice how after Gojo dealt with Toji, Gojo and Geto never received a hint of therapy or the usual anime filler arc where characters decompress their feelings or confide their trauma in mutual friends. Notice how the PTSD and repressed emotions of Geto led him down a genocidal path where he deemed humans unworthy of sharing the same breath as sorcerers. You have to understand Gege is writing from a place of realistic trauma where the impact never truly goes away from someone and there's too little room for many to breath and truly reflect on the deaths of comrades. It's not unlike soldiers returning from war and suffering huge mental health issues from untreated PTSD. It does not matter whether or not Yuji had five episodes more with Junpei just like it did not matter if Riko had five or ten more episodes with Gojo / Geto. To me, that's a common flaw in anime - where their so afraid to kill characters that they spend all this time establishing relationships and retredding old tropes, that nothing feels like it has any dire stakes anymore. What does matter is that the writing remains consistent with it's portrayal of PTSD and character evolution. Where others harden when they face hardship, well, you'll see Yuji's evolution if you read the manga. It's perhaps one of the best written arcs I've seen in manga or anime because Yuji is not the type of person who can simply "let go" of their guilt. Junpei's significance is that his death sparks the domino effect of guilt that would eventually lead to the Shibuya arc and millions losing their lives to Yuji's actions when he made his pact with the devil.
Respectfully, I understand where you're coming from. However, when people ask for the show to "slow-down" I don't know what their really asking for. The reason why Geto's downward spiral into becoming a Japanese Hitler was so compelling was because none of this shit was spelled out to the reader when the manga was still releasing chapters on it. The anime even enhanced this by having the pitter-patter of water droplets sound like the clapping from the bootleg scientology cult that wanted Riko dead. Even Yuka, when giving advice to Geto, never admonished him for considering the option of simply removing humans because (as you find out more in the manga) Yuka remains consistent to her own personal philosophy of letting individuals decide their own destiny. The reason why its compelling is because Gege knows exactly how much time the audience needs to linger before moving on. Ironically, what you're asking for, to let characters breath, would lessen the impact moments like that have. The "i get it" moments where the audience isn't spoonfed everything like in every other shonen. I hope I've made my case for why there's a certain contingent of anime watchers that actually really like this sort of pacing and character development. Even if this doesn't convince you otherwise. Thank you for reading.
Keep the discussion going in our discord!
discord.gg/KccN3b7vNZ
What ever you cooking, in didn't have enough heat. Doesn't taste special more This felt weak.
Then you will hate how chainsaw man pacing is speed.😂😂😂
Ye just forgot all the reason and connection between mahito and itadori without yumpei.....😂😂 The reaching is going places now😂
Nothing special about anyone with reasoning
I honestly like the pacing. It’s a really stark contrast to most shounen anime where it takes forever for the plot to move. I love the zero filler fast moving. It feels like they’re actually living in a crazy world where they’re struggling to keep up with the evil they’re fighting. When you’re constantly fighting evil, these people you meet you don’t always get to spend a ton of time together, yet you’re putting your life on the line for them. Like junpei and riko. I like the pacing
Although I clearly disagree lol. I respect your viewpoint. That’s a nice way of looking at it.
I agree with this sentiment as well. An author being willing to kill off their characters can be interesting, and it can lead to an overall more interesting and emotionally cathartic/satisfying narrative. But when you kill characters off just for the sake of killing them off, without having developed the character enough for the audience to care and have their death meaningully impact the story, then what's the point? Nobara pretty much just got stuffed in a fridge.
I really believe the author wants to finish as fast as they can. So they can do something else.
The impression I got when I started watching this anime is that it wasn't going to last long because everything feels very superficial. In Bleach, being in Soul Society or in Hueco Mundo, you felt immersed in it, but here a group of 3 people per year where one of them has already died makes me think that it is impossible for this organization to have survived for this long. The other thing is that with series in which everyone dies, the characters no longer matter to me, they are just bodies of people we met 5 minutes ago.
Counterpoint, cool fightscene
I agree with your second point, but as a counterpoint to the first, shit like the Shibuya incident doesn't happen on a regular basis.
Black Clover fan here, you should read it if you want good pacing and character writing
I knew you guys would find me
One of the best pacing anime out there
Nowhere did I see this take, even though I was always questioning myself throughout the show, "This shit's cool, but why don't I care?". Turns out, Gege never even tried to get you to care.
Also, Inumaki lost his arm 'cause he was in the range of Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine/Kitchen (not a manga reader, so this is not a spoiler).
I thought that’s where he lost his arm, I just had to be sure lol.
@@ontheriseav I'm still not entirely sure tho. Like, why specifically his arm when hundreds, if not thousands got killed from being in his range?
I just got that from Yuta saying that it was Yuji's fault, only way that can happen is Sukuna. Maybe Yuta saved him from getting killed entirely idk.
And it is a very go go go type show it throws a lot of info at you especially in the flashback
As an gege glazer myself I fully agree.
I didn't finish season 1 of JJK but for some reason I'm always fascinated by the discussions surrounding it. And this is one of them.
I've always wondered why I lost interest in something that should be right up my alley and maybe the pacing is a contributing factor. This might better help me articulate myself in future discussions, so thanks for that.
Also, love what you did with your hair. Looking 🔥🔥👌
Yeah it took me till season 2 to articulate it myself 😂
Agree with your take here well put.
I will say Rika in Hidden Inventory actually felt perfectly fine for me. As a Star Vessel whatever her whole thing was being dragged into a world she had no idea about. The SoL comedy moments with her and Gojo gave enough on her being the "rich family girl" and her death felt about as impactful as I'd want it to. Keep in mind I really loved Hidden Inventory so I'm definitely biased towards her character.
Still doesn't detract from ur main point imo, you cooked 🔥
Scene changes, fire production, and amazing points 🔥 common OTR w 😤😤
Takes one to know one!🔥
I completely agree with this video
And in my honest opinion the thing jjk lacks that makes every good story good and usually is underrated when it comes to writing is emotion. Jjk lacks emotion because the pacing is so fast and characters get introduced so fast just to die. To be honest the peak of emotional writing in jjk was during mahito vs yuji and todo
A lot of people don’t realize that a character can be well written but emotionally uninteresting
Great video bro keep it up
💪🏽🔥
Damn as much I love JJk the characters,the power system,etc but even I have to agree that yeah JJk has a pacing and character death problem. As someone who is caught up in the manga I miss the slice of life moments we used to have. Then there’s the character death take Nobara she had so much potential, and the death is still a bit ambiguous.
Used to have? You mean there is less slice of life moments moving forward?😭
@@ontheriseavWAAAAY less
One final note: the death of Nobara was symbolic of the death of innocence. Past the Shibuya Arc things only spiral more out of control for modern Japan and all the remaining characters. There is a reason her death was so abrupt and it's not bad writing in the slightest.
Never thought I'd see Mike Tyson commenting on JJK 😂😂😂
The thumbnail rules
LET'S GO!! NEW VIDEO!!
⭐️🔥👏🏾👏🏾”W JJK VIDEO BRO”👏🏾👏🏾🔥⭐️
& ALSO 12:42 ABOUT INUMAKI LOSING HIS ARM? IT WAS SUKUNA WHEN HE USE HIS “DOMAIN EXPANSION” AGAINST MAHORAGA.
INUMAKI IS VERY LUCKY HE ONLY LOST A ARM & SURVIVED. BECAUSE SUKUNA’S DOMAIN EXPANSION 200 METER-RADIUS MAX BUT HE LIMITED TO 140 METER-RADIUS(CAUSE MEGUMI WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE 200 METERS. HE DIDN’T WANT TO KILL MEGUMI) SO IF INUMAKI WAS AROUND THE 200 METERS. HE PROBABLY WOULD’VE DIE. IF SUKUNA DIDN’T LIMIT HIS DOMAIN EXPANSION.
OVERALL AGAIN ⭐️🔥👏🏾👏🏾”W JJK VIDEO”👏🏾👏🏾🔥⭐️ &
⭐️🔥🙏🏾”KEEP ON BEING FREAKING GOATED BRO”🙏🏾🔥⭐️
Thanks for watching!
And yeah that seems to be the common answer, I wish they would have shown that lol
Omg I'm so glad I ain't the only one that doesn't know why Inumaki's arm is gone lol what happened?!
Of all things to happen off screen lol
2:29: So I completely disagree. AoT's route always relied on the shock of a death to compel the reader whereas JJK takes on the Hirohiko Araki approach of killing characters. Where everyone is fighting in a "meta". The protagonists you root for may or may not guess the right matchups (like if this were a fighting or Dota style game) but they can't make the right call 100% of the time. So whenever a protagonist falls like Nanami, there's express reasons for why they fell. JJK favors utility and expanding your know-how of how your abilities work and interact with others in it's "magic" system (for lack of a better word).
Had an entire write-up on manga-only deaths but I'll try to avoid spoilers due to this being an anime-only channel I assume at 3:01 when you mention Junpei. Junpei didn't need to be a pre-established character for the impact to have a lasting impact on Yuji. Remember, Yuji isn't like other sorcerors. Go back to that time where he and Nobara executed the cursed womb painting brothers. Nobara justifies their survival as being more necessary than theres hence she feels no remorse or guilt at killing what are essentially mutated humans. But what did Yuji do? He still said that while he recognizes this "tears were shed that day." He pays respects to the fallen REGARDLESS of whether or not they were enemy combatants.
Why wouldn't a death like Junpei sink into a personality like Yuji's head? The immediate shock of his death is reminescent of the immediate shock of Riko's death at the hands of Toji. Notice how after Gojo dealt with Toji, Gojo and Geto never received a hint of therapy or the usual anime filler arc where characters decompress their feelings or confide their trauma in mutual friends. Notice how the PTSD and repressed emotions of Geto led him down a genocidal path where he deemed humans unworthy of sharing the same breath as sorcerers. You have to understand Gege is writing from a place of realistic trauma where the impact never truly goes away from someone and there's too little room for many to breath and truly reflect on the deaths of comrades. It's not unlike soldiers returning from war and suffering huge mental health issues from untreated PTSD.
It does not matter whether or not Yuji had five episodes more with Junpei just like it did not matter if Riko had five or ten more episodes with Gojo / Geto. To me, that's a common flaw in anime - where their so afraid to kill characters that they spend all this time establishing relationships and retredding old tropes, that nothing feels like it has any dire stakes anymore. What does matter is that the writing remains consistent with it's portrayal of PTSD and character evolution. Where others harden when they face hardship, well, you'll see Yuji's evolution if you read the manga. It's perhaps one of the best written arcs I've seen in manga or anime because Yuji is not the type of person who can simply "let go" of their guilt. Junpei's significance is that his death sparks the domino effect of guilt that would eventually lead to the Shibuya arc and millions losing their lives to Yuji's actions when he made his pact with the devil.
New RJ haircut alert!!!!
Yesss the pacing is horrible, W take as usual RJ🔥
Respectfully, I understand where you're coming from. However, when people ask for the show to "slow-down" I don't know what their really asking for. The reason why Geto's downward spiral into becoming a Japanese Hitler was so compelling was because none of this shit was spelled out to the reader when the manga was still releasing chapters on it. The anime even enhanced this by having the pitter-patter of water droplets sound like the clapping from the bootleg scientology cult that wanted Riko dead. Even Yuka, when giving advice to Geto, never admonished him for considering the option of simply removing humans because (as you find out more in the manga) Yuka remains consistent to her own personal philosophy of letting individuals decide their own destiny.
The reason why its compelling is because Gege knows exactly how much time the audience needs to linger before moving on. Ironically, what you're asking for, to let characters breath, would lessen the impact moments like that have. The "i get it" moments where the audience isn't spoonfed everything like in every other shonen. I hope I've made my case for why there's a certain contingent of anime watchers that actually really like this sort of pacing and character development. Even if this doesn't convince you otherwise. Thank you for reading.
Yet when I say it in my video I get shitted on 😭
OTR community is less toxic I guess lol
Go watch black clover ,it's great
Oh no, they found me again
This isn’t a JJK problem. It’s just not for you.
awesome video ☺️☺️
Thanks!