Why Spider-Man VS Batman Is Not Even Close | Insomniac VS Arkham

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  • @TheGamingRift11
    @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +69

    What do you guys think?? let me know!!!
    Also YES I did Arkham Origins-Knight - and base Spidey
    If you want me to do a Round 2 with Symbiote Pete and SSKTJL Batman let me know

    • @Bankai-bp1qj
      @Bankai-bp1qj Місяць тому +7

      I will accept this on the condition that we can both agree that both game series are fantastic. For me, at the end of the day, both game series and characters are amazing regardless of their power levels.

    • @Threegun3316
      @Threegun3316 Місяць тому +1

      Great video! Maybe insomniac spider-man vs homelander (the boys)

    • @thedj6921
      @thedj6921 Місяць тому +1

      @@Bankai-bp1qj
      bro they are! . ..Batman is an absolute badass and represents what a human is capable of (in a fictional exaggerated way ofc) and I think the Arkham games are almost from a game perspective even better than the Spider-Man games, but when you let them
      Fight till death in fair (and even in unfair terms kinda)
      Spider-Man destroys Batman completely.
      Edit: sry my English is very bad I am not native

    • @dumba5535
      @dumba5535 Місяць тому +2

      @@Bankai-bp1qjI’ll just agree on the fact that both never fought against or together in their games ever, hence nobody won so all is good in the end and yes both games are amazing as hell

    • @zombienumen9658
      @zombienumen9658 Місяць тому

      Do superior Spider-Man versus the Batman who laughs

  • @TheEnvixity.
    @TheEnvixity. Місяць тому +317

    I hate that people say "Oh, Batman with prep time solos", when the fight should be even. If one gets prep time, so should the other. Not to mention that Insomniac Peter was able to build the Anti-Ock suit in what can't be more than 30 minutes.

    • @MuchDrOrange
      @MuchDrOrange Місяць тому +30

      Except prep time is literally apart of batman's character. His power is not his gadgets, his money, or skills. It's the fact that he literally plans for everything beforehand or even in the moment. You take that away, it's the same thing as taking away Spider-Mans powers. And I don't care what you say, a man who has devoted his entire life since he was eleven to his mission will always out-prep a dude who only devotes half his time to crime-fighting.

    • @ryankerrivan414
      @ryankerrivan414 Місяць тому +7

      batman is known for his prep time that’s why he’s able to win fights against the likes of superman and survive the likes of darkseid, when batman has prep time he becomes the most dangerous thing to exist and becomes unbeatable , superman himself has said that so even if spider-man had prep time too he wouldn’t win batman has the best prep time in all of comics

    • @Darwinthegoat2709
      @Darwinthegoat2709 Місяць тому +6

      Batman’s whole character is Prep Time 😂😂😂 how do you think he is able to contend with Darkseid and Superman? The power of friendship?

    • @majimasimp
      @majimasimp Місяць тому +12

      @@Darwinthegoat2709they’re saying give spiderman prep time too if you’re going to give it to Batman

    • @Kid-Arachnid994
      @Kid-Arachnid994 Місяць тому +10

      ⁠@@MuchDrOrangebro....if spiderman got into a fight with Batman and he wasn't holding back he's doing what superior did to scorpion in the comics. Knocked that jaw right off because that shit wasn't armored.

  • @thedj6921
    @thedj6921 Місяць тому +233

    Batman is crazy shit but Spider-Man is actually able to kill him oneshot with his strongest attacks

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +24

      @@thedj6921 pretty much

    • @celsos.arestalll7013
      @celsos.arestalll7013 Місяць тому +6

      Just saying, Comic Batman is a whole different story

    • @Mr.Anonymous342
      @Mr.Anonymous342 Місяць тому +51

      @@celsos.arestalll7013 so is comic spider-man lil bro.

    • @pixalatedserume
      @pixalatedserume Місяць тому +5

      So does that mean you think kraven could beat batman since kraven killer spiderman. This is why I hate powerscaling sometimes lol and this feels so biased. Don't get me wrong I feel like it could go either way and it's not just spiderman will win.

    • @thedj6921
      @thedj6921 Місяць тому +6

      @@pixalatedserume
      well. ..this craven from Spider-Man 2 ps5 would be a very big problem for Arkham Batman, he never faced someone that strong, I am sure this kraven would kill Batman

  • @dawudabdulali3827
    @dawudabdulali3827 Місяць тому +662

    Its still insane to me people still think arkham batman beats insom peter, I dont get whats wrong with batman losing, it dosent take away from his character in any way, but of cource people just dont like having their favorite jero lose

    • @TheSsjJoker
      @TheSsjJoker Місяць тому +44

      I get where some are coming from but it is silly, and like u said both still great regardless…honestly it’s just silly to even think of them fighting anyway lol

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 Місяць тому +20

      @@dawudabdulali3827 Spider Man wins but if Batman has prep time. Worh all the gadgets he has avaiable he could eventually knock peter out

    • @swector_unit4257
      @swector_unit4257 Місяць тому +36

      I love the arkham games, but I'm blind sides because Spiderman has one OP power his spider senses everything else with speed, and strength just makes him more of a threat to batman.

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 Місяць тому +23

      @@swector_unit4257 tbh Insomniac Spider Man got hit by stuff like missiles multiple times . Even with symbiote

    • @jasonblack2477
      @jasonblack2477 Місяць тому +18

      @@dawudabdulali3827 Batmans chances are slim but he could pull it off tbh. But Spider Man obviously has the better cards here

  • @Popdosty
    @Popdosty Місяць тому +181

    Superhuman with the ability to see into the future vs rich orphan that beats up mental patients.

    • @night-spider101
      @night-spider101 Місяць тому +2

      😂

    • @Popdosty
      @Popdosty Місяць тому +4

      @i_hate_ads. Spider-man has aunt May as a parental figure. But I guess the same goes with Batman and Alfred so I guess they’re equal there.

    • @mike.tyson...
      @mike.tyson... Місяць тому +9

      Spiderman and Batman's villains are mental patients

    • @Popdosty
      @Popdosty Місяць тому +9

      @@mike.tyson...you know, now that I think about, most comic book villains are insane and have an mental illness, or are terrorists. Sometimes both

    • @illuminattemind9122
      @illuminattemind9122 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@Popdostythat applies to dc more than Marvel... Marvel has it's good share of villains who actually have quite a good reason for doing what they do... Example: Ultron, Thanos, skrull, gorr,

  • @Fable1017-Hope
    @Fable1017-Hope Місяць тому +103

    You forgot to mention Peter Still has the Anti-Venom Symbiote but that would be Overkill

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +14

      @@Fable1017-Hope I did base versions - that might be a round 2 vid someday

    • @cronus_2142
      @cronus_2142 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TheGamingRift11sense the anti-venom suit is now permanently bonded to him wouldn't that be his base now that's how I thought of it

    • @luafamily
      @luafamily 9 днів тому

      @@cronus_2142if he has anti venom In the spider man 3 game, yes, but since he got it at the end of Sm2 so it’s not his base form.

  • @tdavote4owen
    @tdavote4owen Місяць тому +46

    As the late and great Stan Lee once said (and i am paraphrasing here) "I hate this question, it's whatever I choose, I could write that Spider-Man beats the Hulk, or I could write that the Hulk beats Spider-Man"......basically it is whatever the writer chooses really.....but if we are looking beyond writers, then it still comes down to the scenario both Batman and Spidey are in and many many different variables....so in certain scenarios, Spidey wins, and in other scenarios, Batman wins....it is all so much more complex than just comparing the two

    • @gravemistakes8427
      @gravemistakes8427 Місяць тому +5

      I smell nothing but Fax here

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +12

      When comparing feats that both have performed canonically in their respective games, that’s simply irrelevant

    • @MrKingkz
      @MrKingkz Місяць тому +5

      I agree with this and this is what makes dbz style feat comparing so flat sometimes i think it all depends on the scenario more then just power itself but i still think spiderman wins more then he loses if bats has prep so dose spiderman and spiderman has proven to beat people with more tec then him with prep time batman would be out matched in everything but money

    • @ejnoonan2808
      @ejnoonan2808 27 днів тому +2

      I completely agree actually

    • @spencerhudson8580
      @spencerhudson8580 10 днів тому

      Nah Batman gets ragdolled

  • @espurrseyes42
    @espurrseyes42 Місяць тому +219

    One guy is really smart and has a bunch of gadgets.
    The other guy is ALSO really smart, arguable smarter, and has a bunch of gadgets on top of actual superpowers. And that's without giving him a Symbiote that doesn't have the typical Symbiote weaknesses. And that's acknowledging that he is inherently always holding back because of his mentality.

    • @Comicedits39
      @Comicedits39 Місяць тому +12

      Insomniac Pete is
      Large town level. He's neither more durable or stronger.
      How is Pete faster when his best speed scaling is via electricity? Not only does Batman have the same scaling off electricity but he now scales off Superman who LS-MFTL.
      Bouncing a random thug off concrete is cute, one tapping a Demi-god is Cuter.
      Pete is also out haxed, Considering Batman can dampen powers, shut off gadets and has the strongest form of fear toxin.

    • @espurrseyes42
      @espurrseyes42 Місяць тому +47

      @@Comicedits39
      Was Superman in any of the Arkham games? If not, he has no bearing on this discussion about Game versions of Bats and Spidey.
      Power dampeners aren't some magic device that can shut down powers. Bats would need to already know about Spidey to build ones based around him. And he doesn't have the luxury of prep time in this fight. Power dampeners are a moot point, as the ones he'd have on him wouldn't work on Spidey since they've never even met.

    • @serialdreamer8386
      @serialdreamer8386 Місяць тому +13

      ​@espurrseyes42 And he also survived a way worse toxine that was made to literally kill him... i think fear toxin would be a walk on the oark for him.

    • @Comicedits39
      @Comicedits39 Місяць тому +8

      @@espurrseyes42 he was in the suicide squad, no matter how bad the game is, it’s canon and Batman canonically scales to the justice league.

    • @espurrseyes42
      @espurrseyes42 Місяць тому +11

      @@Comicedits39
      Ok. We're still talking about the Arkham games. Not the whole extended Arkham universe. Superman is irrelevant to this discussion unless he was in Asylum, City, Knight, or Origins.

  • @TheSsjJoker
    @TheSsjJoker Місяць тому +53

    Personally i never gotten into the debate of who would legit win there’s gonna be glazers on both sides , both great characters from great games who actually cares tbh who would win 🕷️ 🤝 🦇

    • @giuseppesillicchia648
      @giuseppesillicchia648 Місяць тому +4

      Power Scalers

    • @TheSsjJoker
      @TheSsjJoker Місяць тому +3

      @@giuseppesillicchia648 besides them lmao

    • @Thanos5
      @Thanos5 Місяць тому +1

      Why are you here then 😂

    • @TheSsjJoker
      @TheSsjJoker Місяць тому +5

      @@Thanos5 cuz I won’t to lol

    • @Thanos5
      @Thanos5 Місяць тому

      @@TheSsjJoker what?

  • @thedigitalfortress
    @thedigitalfortress Місяць тому +100

    Why is this even a debate? Either insomniac Spider-Man absolutely destroy Arkham Batman. 😭😭😭 we gotta hard lowball either Spider-Man to give Batman even a chance. Miles can just use his electricity explosion and Peter can just speed blitz.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +13

      @@thedigitalfortress Miles vs batman would be interesting but still a stomp

    • @thedigitalfortress
      @thedigitalfortress Місяць тому +17

      @@TheGamingRift11 it would be more interesting since Miles is less experienced and has less skills but I still think if he gets a good hit in, it’s basically a body bag. Batman gets 1 shot.

    • @celsos.arestalll7013
      @celsos.arestalll7013 Місяць тому +2

      To be fair, this is ARKHAM Batman, Arkham Batman is powerful, but not as powerful as Comic Batman. But, that would be a whole other situation with Comic Spiderman

    • @Mr.Anonymous342
      @Mr.Anonymous342 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 nah miles vs nightwing.

    • @Destroyer_odides
      @Destroyer_odides 19 днів тому +1

      @@celsos.arestalll7013I agree with you Arkham Batman is strong very strong however… this spider-man can bounce people off of concrete

  • @fearless9470
    @fearless9470 Місяць тому +300

    The only trouble spider-man would have is to not accidentally kill batman 💀💀

    • @tuttiman55
      @tuttiman55 Місяць тому +5

      It’s like the goku vs superman debate all over again, this specific example is like gt goku versus snyder superman, not the strongest incarnations of either character but they’re not weak either but the gap between the two is undeniable, in this context gt goku is the spiderman equivalent, as snyder superman just hasn’t had anywhere near the same feats as goku

    • @christianhenry4173
      @christianhenry4173 Місяць тому +1

      Here's where we can agree to. Insomniac Spiderman is more popular in sales but Arkham's Batman won more awards for his video games. 😂. That's the only thing batman beats Spiderman in at this point

    • @NoKnowFear
      @NoKnowFear Місяць тому +1

      Spiderman is specifically said to *almost* be able to lift 10 tons, batman is also specifically said to be able to exert 21,000 pounds of force (10.5 tons) >1000 more than spider man.

    • @Darwinthegoat2709
      @Darwinthegoat2709 Місяць тому +1

      @@christianhenry4173Arkham series is also much better as a game anyway. Batman would shred Spiderman in a fight anyway. There’s a reason the Arkham franchise is considered the best superhero games

    • @fearless9470
      @fearless9470 Місяць тому +10

      @@Darwinthegoat2709now don’t act like the Arkham games are perfect games cause it certainly isn’t. And you wanna elaborate on how Arkham batman “shreds” spider-man

  • @dawudabdulali3827
    @dawudabdulali3827 Місяць тому +53

    Dang your even bringing feats from the comics too, you really dud your reaserch. W vid.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +9

      I tried

    • @Mr.Anonymous342
      @Mr.Anonymous342 Місяць тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 good attempt, love bats very much but spidey is just my guy y'know? "guy from the miles game."

  • @jeremiahscott2032
    @jeremiahscott2032 4 дні тому +3

    Lowkey Peter would’ve won That 1v6 if he put a little strength in it. Cuz he was about to knock rhino out😂😂😂😂😂

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  4 дні тому +1

      If the fight took place in the city it could’ve been closer

  • @NinjaPepe12071
    @NinjaPepe12071 Місяць тому +15

    Spidey didn’t need anti ock suit, he needed it to beat otto without killing him

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +4

      @@NinjaPepe12071 …..so we agree he needed it then?

    • @NinjaPepe12071
      @NinjaPepe12071 Місяць тому +6

      @@TheGamingRift11 yeah lol I kinna contradicted myself

    • @xander-f5z
      @xander-f5z 8 днів тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 no he means he needed it for ottos PROTECTION he couldve just killed him given he wanted to

  • @Beujeer
    @Beujeer Місяць тому +31

    FINALLY, someone that doesn’t just go: “pReP tImE”

    • @Darwinthegoat2709
      @Darwinthegoat2709 Місяць тому +2

      Arkham Batman wouldn’t even need much prep time. He makes up plans in like a minute to beat his enemy. Spiderman would be no different, the fear toxin would literally shred Spiderman

    • @Zayne_xeno
      @Zayne_xeno 29 днів тому +2

      ​@@Darwinthegoat2709did you watch the video or what?

    • @EclipseEG
      @EclipseEG 11 днів тому +4

      @@Darwinthegoat2709Spider-Man would literally just speed blitz, and there’s not much he’s afraid of, the only thing he’s pretty much afraid of is loss, but even then the fear toxin is designed to make someone go crazy, Spider-Man has just as much will power as Batman, so he just wouldn’t go crazy anyway, it’s also arguable he has more will power than Batman, as at punts of the Arkham game he does lose it a couple times, like on the airship and at the end of the game

    • @beanik835
      @beanik835 5 днів тому

      @@Darwinthegoat2709
      Fear toxin same as Scorpion toxin

    • @antonikonte8549
      @antonikonte8549 День тому

      ​@@EclipseEGbro batman has dodged darkseids omega beams there is no such thing Spiderman speed blitz kids these days...

  • @king_poyo64
    @king_poyo64 Місяць тому +124

    Any average Spider-man vs Batman debate is basically hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.

    • @Marvelfanatic3658
      @Marvelfanatic3658 Місяць тому +4

      I wouldn't go that far

    • @conorkr8584
      @conorkr8584 Місяць тому +1

      Yh not that far but it's still like a Swiss army knife vs a plastic butter knife

  • @saidomiv3465
    @saidomiv3465 Місяць тому +13

    Peter in the insomniac comics built a suit that made him move so fast time around him stopped. He designed this suit in a few hours if I recall, IQ wise I don't know how people think humans in DC can compare to marvel 😭

    • @karimdavis7065
      @karimdavis7065 Місяць тому +3

      You clearly don't know anything about DC if you think that.

    • @IitzAdamly
      @IitzAdamly Місяць тому

      Bro is dio

    • @saidomiv3465
      @saidomiv3465 Місяць тому

      @@karimdavis7065 DC does not have a scientist like reed richards I love comics and prefer DC comics ^^

  • @Yes-cj6vr
    @Yes-cj6vr Місяць тому +108

    “How many Arkham Batmans would it take to beat one Insomniac Peter”

    • @gravemistakes8427
      @gravemistakes8427 Місяць тому +2

      No

    • @skell6134
      @skell6134 Місяць тому +3

      I say that around 3-4 batmans should be enough if you also give them prep time to come up with plan

    • @MrKingkz
      @MrKingkz Місяць тому +6

      @@skell6134 With prep i would say 2 without prep i would say 4-5 but the prep time depends on if spiderman knows about him or not if spiderman is going in cold and bats has prep time it could even take 1 batman but if they both have prep time spiderman stomps him and if its a one on one cold spiderman would stomp him hard thats how i think it would go anyway

    • @celsos.arestalll7013
      @celsos.arestalll7013 Місяць тому +2

      a few dozen

    • @TheGGod
      @TheGGod Місяць тому

      1 pro

  • @HMMA338
    @HMMA338 Місяць тому +30

    Kratos or Ellie that’s a fair fight

    • @Bejdza
      @Bejdza 22 дні тому

      Ellie mid diffs Dante and the doom slayer

  • @jackmclaughlin9602
    @jackmclaughlin9602 Місяць тому +14

    Good video and strong analysis but there is one thing I have to disagree with you one; you mentioned that Doc Ock could overpower a base Spider-Man but don’t forget that Spider-Man had just fought Mr Negative and before that dozens perhaps hundreds of enemies and Scorpion & Rhino an hour or two before and was likely emotionally nerfed due to his being emotionally shattered with Otto’s fall. Something else to mention is that Otto likely knew Spider-Man’s suit’s shortcomings since he designed it.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +7

      @@jackmclaughlin9602 Otto also nearly killed Anti ock Peter. It’s implied that even if base Pete was at 100% he would’ve still lost to Otto

    • @jackmclaughlin9602
      @jackmclaughlin9602 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 while Peter did almost die don’t forget that he was likely holding back slightly in order to to get the anti serum destroyed in the crossfire, was in a new suit so was likely still getting used to it, he was even more fatigued and injured before and emotionally nerfed due to fighting the man who was essentially his 2nd father (figure).

    • @EclipseEG
      @EclipseEG 11 днів тому

      @@jackmclaughlin9602Spidey all ways holds back anyway, plus he would probably know that Dock Ock probably wouldn’t risk destroying the serum aswel, as I’m pretty sure that after he killed Norman he was gonna cure everyone, seeing as he has no use for it anymore, so he would probably be keeping it safe anyway, also Spidey built that suit accustomed to himself, so I doubt he would need to ‘get used to it’ plus it was stated that Dock Ock easily outmatched a base PS4 Peter

  • @ATalesTruth-
    @ATalesTruth- Місяць тому +29

    Perfect video
    Now let’s see who disagrees and their points

    • @RRai2000
      @RRai2000 Місяць тому +5

      I'll get the popcorn ready lol

    • @ShadowCat_Gaming
      @ShadowCat_Gaming Місяць тому +1

      They only thing i can say is, batman might win if you give him a month of prep time, but if you put them right next to each other right now, spiderman wins.

    • @Alchemy_And_Anarchy
      @Alchemy_And_Anarchy Місяць тому +13

      @@ShadowCat_Gamingif you give Bruce prep time then Peter should also get prep time, and from there on I say the one with powers wins

    • @Mr.Anonymous342
      @Mr.Anonymous342 Місяць тому +1

      @@Alchemy_And_Anarchy preach.

    • @dylanberaza7944
      @dylanberaza7944 Місяць тому +1

      Suicide squad game is canon and arkham Batman react to flash.
      A feat of speed that is enough for peter.
      Plus I get that people don’t like the game but Batman is not nerf there.
      The suicide squad is buff

  • @vaporv01d32
    @vaporv01d32 Місяць тому +18

    Ok so this is something that bothers me with versus debates-- Fristly, Spider-Man would win either way, I have no doubts about that, but I'm in the belief that the CHARACTER of these characters should remain intact. If these two were to fight, it should be THEM, not bloodlusted shells of them. Again in this case I think it's irrelevant, but I think it's just-- kind of silly to add a-- To Bruce at least, impossible factor. Y'know, unless you WANT to count Suicide Squad.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +1

      Character should only matter when judging how impressive the feats are
      But in a vs battle morals should be off for obvious reasons

    • @Mr.Anonymous342
      @Mr.Anonymous342 Місяць тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 true but death battle has this thing were they're now struggling on how to make deaths wholesome and shiz, just make a "who'll win or who'll last. battle."

    • @christianrapper5
      @christianrapper5 Місяць тому +1

      They act differently every time. You Can’t go by that because it changes depending on the plot. That’s why Spiderman can dodge bullets, but get hit by ordinary humans.

    • @vaporv01d32
      @vaporv01d32 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 See that's actually why I say their character matters for these things. It adds an extra dynamic that makes the battle more interesting. Maybe that's just me thinking versus matches should also be something of a story to tell. It's just a personal gripe though, at the end of the day.

  • @yourordinarystranger366
    @yourordinarystranger366 Місяць тому +9

    Even though it doesn't matter because arkham batman isn't multi city block level but saying spiderman is 100x than that is kinda crazy. I could be wrong but I don't think otto meant the arms could move at the speed of light I think that's supposed to be the delay between his brain and arms. I also don't think spiderman is 10 times faster than the speed of light as I've literally never heard that in my life and that really wouldn't make sense. Other than that this was an amazing video. I don't like how people pretend spiderman has 0 combat skill and I've seen people say he was just small building level which is just stupid. I think peter is more city block and batman is more small building large building level. But you did a good job giving both of them the benefit of the doubt.
    I think overall peter is just too strong for arkham batman as I think even though he is clearly a better fighter he needs all the right plays to even get a chance in (this situation) killing peter. Another thing to add as I feel like on paper a lot of characters are stronger than games every let them be portrayed because one moment you could see batman tanking full rounds of guns to getting knocked off a building by a gun shot. Same thing goes with spiderman as (this shit pissed me off in spiderman 2) he outright almost dies if miles wasn't there twice in the games where he would of died from getting drowned by sand to getting knocked out by I think a missile when chasing the lizard. Him dying to a knife is literally dumb too. I'm pretty sure it was just a big ass knife too.
    So I guess on paper spiderman shouldn't be phased at all by anything batman throws at him, I think if he was literally shot by his tank and batman unloaded just multiple bullets in him it could kill him. But this isn't even taking in symbiote spiderman who would mop arkham batman.

  • @domwuz4851
    @domwuz4851 Місяць тому +131

    Not to mention Spiderman has anti-venom now 😂😂😂

    • @ShadowCat_Gaming
      @ShadowCat_Gaming Місяць тому +1

      That would just be a disadvantege because batman could just use sound to beat him. In my opinion though, if you give batman a month or 2 of prep time he would probably win, but if they fought on the spot batmans dead.

    • @videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474
      @videogamelnandcomicbooksca7474 Місяць тому +64

      ​@@ShadowCat_Gamingyou....you are aware the anti symbiote doesn't have weakness to sound, right? And even then it isn't sound. It's high frequency. Which you'd need to prove batman can produce. Not to mention symbiotes are able to adapt to anything and even adapt a limited resistance to their weakness to fully resisting it over time.
      Respect your opinion though.

    • @domwuz4851
      @domwuz4851 Місяць тому +9

      @@ShadowCat_Gaming im not fully sure about that. I know the “insomniac” universe venom doesn’t have the weakness to fire. So I’m not sure if the Anti Venom also has the privilege of being invulnerable to sound ways based upon the combined powers of Mr. Negative.
      Also… I think that the prep time gets a bit overstated. If we’re giving Batman 2 months of prep. We gotta give Peter the same thing.
      That’s always my rebuttal with Batman vs Superman too. Give them both 1 year of prep. The outcome is the same😅😂😅

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +9

      True but that’s more of a round 2 scenario

    • @KingOfQuinns
      @KingOfQuinns Місяць тому +4

      ​@@TheGamingRift11round 2 more like execution

  • @DionyYT
    @DionyYT 4 дні тому +1

    Don’t forget Peter has the anti-venom suit at his disposal

  • @King-mg7vy
    @King-mg7vy Місяць тому +6

    The only reason this debate is still going is because the people who think Batman can beat him will just keep arguing until they find a way to make Batman come out on top; even if that means pulling out alternate reality versions for a cheap W. Cause lets face it, that's the only way Bruce wins this.

  • @gravemistakes8427
    @gravemistakes8427 Місяць тому +15

    7:05 "Always hold back and never kill their enemies"
    Peter: Proceeds to break someone's neck.
    Batman: TALK!! NOW!! (After delivering three hundred punches to someone's dome)
    The finishers in these games are insane XD

  • @MoonS4444
    @MoonS4444 Місяць тому +7

    "bUt iF bAtMaN hAs tImE tO pRePaRe hImSeLf-"

    • @Darwinthegoat2709
      @Darwinthegoat2709 Місяць тому +1

      He doesn’t even need time lmao. He’d figure smth out in under a minute like he did in the Arkham games. Spiderman stands no chance

    • @MoonS4444
      @MoonS4444 Місяць тому +2

      @@Darwinthegoat2709 💀

    • @hedonist9249
      @hedonist9249 5 днів тому

      @@MoonS4444 what if Pete doesn't have Miles Morales besides him? Rhino solos Pete lmao

    • @MoonS4444
      @MoonS4444 5 днів тому

      @hedonist9249 straight up just hating

  • @ejnoonan2808
    @ejnoonan2808 27 днів тому +5

    Also I don’t think spider-man’s equipment rivals Batman’s at all because I have yet to see him make a car that can turn into a tank or a jet that can go faster than any normal military jet. Batman’s car can also make earth quakes into the ground just like spider-man

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  27 днів тому +4

      There’s 2 reasons Spiderman doesn’t need a car….nor a jet…..nor a tank…..
      1. No money to build one
      2. He’s too powerful to need one

    • @anthonyf616
      @anthonyf616 21 день тому

      Money

    • @mr.kuso868
      @mr.kuso868 7 днів тому +1

      He's just smart, not rich.

  • @VexSymbiote
    @VexSymbiote Місяць тому +4

    BRO I THOUGHT SPIDERMAN WAS DOING THE MIDDLE FINGER IN THE THUMBNAIL

  • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
    @ShockwaveFPSStudios Місяць тому +6

    You guys would think that, since Death Battle & Superhero beat down made the Spider-Man Vs Batman video, you would assume everyone moved on and got better with their lives.

  • @RogerStanford23
    @RogerStanford23 Місяць тому +7

    i mean lets be honest
    batman is human not superhuman
    but he stil beat great white shark with his hand in arkham city
    ☠💀💀💀💀💀☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠

  • @zage932
    @zage932 Місяць тому +2

    I feel like Peter's crane feat and him 1v2ing electro and vulture at the same time is enough to barely beat Batman.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому

      @@zage932 barely?

    • @zage932
      @zage932 Місяць тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 I say barely so no Batman superfan goes above and beyond to find my home address (It's happened once).

  • @OfficialPuffer
    @OfficialPuffer Місяць тому +17

    Very accurate, maybe do a round 2 with Symbiote pete vs SSKTJL Batman

    • @dawudabdulali3827
      @dawudabdulali3827 Місяць тому +1

      PUFFER

    • @I-Am-Batman_1988
      @I-Am-Batman_1988 Місяць тому +8

      How about no don't do that one cause Spider-Man still stomps. SSKTJL Batman was defeated by guns, then died by a gun. It's not even close.

    • @gabrieldiaz6933
      @gabrieldiaz6933 Місяць тому

      ​@I-Am-Batman_1988 tbh idek how it would end. For the most part, it's the same outcome, but now fear toxin is in play. Unless you think it's possible for him to resist due to Scorpion's poison.

    • @Comicedits39
      @Comicedits39 Місяць тому +3

      @@I-Am-Batman_1988 City level scaling, with Light speed - MFTL Speed scaling.
      Yeah he's clapping Pete, too fast, too skilled, way to smart, and too physically imposing.

    • @I-Am-Batman_1988
      @I-Am-Batman_1988 Місяць тому +4

      @@Comicedits39 he loses to 3 humans and a mutant shark that shoots guns but he beats Peter? Sure lol.

  • @Unknownyt47
    @Unknownyt47 Місяць тому

    Personally, this is one of the best takes I have seen on the topic in a LONG while. People tend to either downplay Spider-Man, downplay Batman, or they just make them seem stronger than they actually are, because they usually don't know how to actually compare feats and strength levels. Thankfully in this video you went over solid strength feats of both characters, and PROVED your case as to why one person would win each category, so, props to you, great job with the video/

  • @bydlakbolszewik847
    @bydlakbolszewik847 Місяць тому +3

    Now let's see spider-man vs Alfred

  • @FirstRealities
    @FirstRealities Місяць тому +1

    If both are fighting to kill, Spider-Man’s killing Batman in one move

  • @pacifixz
    @pacifixz Місяць тому +3

    one guy is intelligent and has a lot of tech
    another guy is also intelligent and has a lot of tech, but has op super powers too
    yeah this is not even close pete's spidey powers dont even have exploitable weaknesses for batman to discover

  • @jackmorris4326
    @jackmorris4326 Місяць тому +1

    Venom from Spiderman 2 PS5 beats like basically all of Batman’s villains at the same time

  • @Boeh-vz5hf
    @Boeh-vz5hf Місяць тому +10

    The real winner is decided by in whichever verse they put the fighters in

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +7

      Irrelevant 🤷‍♂️

    • @Boeh-vz5hf
      @Boeh-vz5hf Місяць тому +4

      @@TheGamingRift11 kinda is tho because if it’s in Batman’s verse the plot armor will carry

    • @dawudabdulali3827
      @dawudabdulali3827 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Boeh-vz5hf plot armiur ?

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +3

      @@Boeh-vz5hfwhat plot armour? Batman didn’t have any?

    • @azaluna2136
      @azaluna2136 Місяць тому

      Congrats on giving the most original and boring answer for this conversation

  • @ryan7978
    @ryan7978 Місяць тому +2

    Batman was also literally dying in Arkham City that feat alone would give him the W

  • @MuchDrOrange
    @MuchDrOrange Місяць тому +10

    If its a suprise 1v1, Spider-Man wins. If its a planned encounter, Batman wins. It's that simple. And yet people will argue on and on saying crap like "Batman can dodge Spider-Man" or "Spider-Man is smarter than batman"(Which is bogus). Like guys, it's not THAT complicated.

    • @aza5871
      @aza5871 Місяць тому

      shouldn't it be the opposite with spiderman dodging and batman being smarter?

    • @MuchDrOrange
      @MuchDrOrange Місяць тому +2

      @@aza5871 Yea that's what I said. I was saying it's dumb to think batman can magically dodge spider-man or that spider-man is somehow smarter than batman.

  • @obamabinladen1824
    @obamabinladen1824 Місяць тому +16

    If Spidey has spider-verse then Batman can have Bat-Mite

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +6

      @@obamabinladen1824 ?

    • @King-mg7vy
      @King-mg7vy Місяць тому +5

      He does not have Bat-mite

    • @MrKingkz
      @MrKingkz Місяць тому +5

      Is this some bat-cope lol

    • @aza5871
      @aza5871 Місяць тому +1

      two completely different things

  • @ejnoonan2808
    @ejnoonan2808 27 днів тому +4

    Batman in the games beat everyone of his villains in a single night where spider-man has to beat them over several days the fact that Batman can defeat a girl that has power over nature itself, a undead monster that can hurt superman, a monster that is made out of clay, and a immortal in a single night where spider-man has to defeat a can in a wing suit, a guy thats just in a scorpion suit, and a old man with four robotic arms over like a week it shows that Batman is sort of better am I wrong? Also if spider-man can barely handle Mysterio’s hypno or whatever I don’t think he would be able to handle scarecrows gas like Batman. Just proves he is better prove me wrong.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  27 днів тому +3

      The whole “beating everyone in one night” is such a misconception
      He never beats all of his villains. Because some villains are absent in each game
      Plus he always does it in 1v1s.
      The only thing that proves is that Batman has ridiculous stamina for a “peak human”
      It’s such a terrible point to hype up

    • @riodelsol3876
      @riodelsol3876 26 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@TheGamingRift11lmao are u kidding? He’s talking about all the villains Batman beats in Arkham knight, which literally takes place in one night. He also defeats an entire army that was designed to kill him, that was planned for months by multiple people, which is cannon in Arkham 😂 lmao how is it a “terrible point to hype up.” That’s such a biased thing to say. Maybe Spider-Man would win but still u have to add that if u want to be fair, which you’re obviously not interested in doing.

    • @hedonist9249
      @hedonist9249 5 днів тому

      @@riodelsol3876 Just remember that in the origins batman handled 9 the most deadliest assassins in the world in just 1 christmas night. Even tho Bruce was young to his batman life. Still Pete can't beat Rhino without his boyfriend MIles Morales.. Yup

    • @LibraKai
      @LibraKai 58 хвилин тому

      @@hedonist9249 "Still Pete can't beat Rhino without his boyfriend MIles Morales.." The same Pete who was able to beat Rhino whilst getting jumped by him and Scorpion? Interesting.

  • @marcelwagner7304
    @marcelwagner7304 Місяць тому +2

    Batman vs Spider Man is interesting but I would say both can win it depends on the situation in a sudden fight Spider Man would win but if Batman had time to prepare for the fight like in Batman Vs Superman Batman would win.

  • @spectraphantom5870
    @spectraphantom5870 Місяць тому +6

    Two words. Circle Triangle

    • @Zayne_xeno
      @Zayne_xeno 29 днів тому

      Watch the video instead of saying some bullshit buttons, spiderman slams batman

    • @williamalbert8726
      @williamalbert8726 2 дні тому

      @@Zayne_xeno dude... those buttons are for spiderman finisher in insomniac...

  • @Darwinthegoat2709
    @Darwinthegoat2709 Місяць тому +2

    Arkham Batman shreds Insomniac Spider Man. Spider Man would defo have the massive advantage, but Batman is just so crazy experienced and capable of taking down an entire army in one night. He would tire out Spiderman, and use his gadgets to set traps and damage Spider-Man’s tech. His fighting skill is better, and he would deal massive damage. Batman’s armour would resist a lot of Spider-Man’s attacks.
    The only way Spiderman wins is in a direct head on, if Batman charges in stupidly. Batman would see he’s outmatched, use his gadgets and think of a plan to beat Spider-Man. He’d probably take a sample of Spider-Man’s webs and create a remote batarang that targets that web signature only. Batman has done crazy stuff in one night, and I really don’t see Spider-Man having the willpower or skill to take down Batman.
    Batman’s trump card would be the Batmobile and Fear Toxin. He could just sit in the Batmobile all night and shoot at Spider-Man. Using the fear toxin, he’d clog Spider-Man’s senses, (similar to how Scorpion did), and then he’d take him down fairly easily.
    The symbiote is harder, but Batman would quickly find out Sound is Spider-Man’s weakness, essentially making it game over.
    Batman beats Spider-Man, don’t get why you guys think Spider-Man would win

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +1

      @@Darwinthegoat2709 no one is denying batman is experienced, however none of his experience is gunna prepare him for Spiderman 🤷‍♂️

  • @4e_vin255
    @4e_vin255 Місяць тому +3

    Insomniac Spider-Man stomps obviously
    Why is this even a debate? It's not even close at all

    • @karimdavis7065
      @karimdavis7065 Місяць тому

      This just shows that you know nothing about Arkham Batman

    • @4e_vin255
      @4e_vin255 Місяць тому +1

      @@karimdavis7065 I do know Arkham Batman, been playing Arkham games since 2021
      I just don't overrated him like his fanboys did
      Also did you even watch the video cuz Rift already explained why Spider-Man wins

  • @christianworcester6851
    @christianworcester6851 Місяць тому +1

    The fact that most of spidys best feats are in base, then you add anti venom💀

  • @urazoktay7940
    @urazoktay7940 Місяць тому +16

    Batman: Arkham games are far superior.

    • @dawudabdulali3827
      @dawudabdulali3827 Місяць тому +5

      Irrelevant.

    • @charlesmosley-i7x
      @charlesmosley-i7x Місяць тому

      @@dawudabdulali3827they really are superior tho😂

    • @AllDayErrDay.
      @AllDayErrDay. Місяць тому +1

      I don't know about being far superior. But I do agree that they are superior.

    • @urazoktay7940
      @urazoktay7940 Місяць тому

      @@AllDayErrDay. Yes i exaggerated a little. To say Batman Arkham games are superior to Spider Man games is enough. They are both amazing game series.

    • @hedonist9249
      @hedonist9249 5 днів тому +1

      @@urazoktay7940 Any Arkham game > Any Spider Man game

  • @multiverse-collection
    @multiverse-collection Місяць тому +1

    ROUND 2:
    Corrupted symbiote spiderman
    VS
    Corrupted Jokerized Batman

  • @Mr.TwoFaceGuy
    @Mr.TwoFaceGuy Місяць тому +1

    Remember, this ain’t maximum plot armor comic Batman. It’s Arkham Batman. So he can very reasonably be beaten by Peter.

  • @aadityakiran07
    @aadityakiran07 Місяць тому +6

    i think batman wins intelligence, skill and equipment but still tho spidey is would smoke b-man

  • @frankipool8098
    @frankipool8098 Місяць тому +1

    MJ ,Marry Jane (also Miss jaws) can 1v1 Batman when she has the taser she turns to John wick 😂❤

  • @liamvega5566
    @liamvega5566 Місяць тому +6

    Batman is cooked 💀

  • @LassoedBooty
    @LassoedBooty 5 днів тому

    I would like to remind everyone that each Arkham game happens in the span of one night, including all the side quests. Even if you just look at batman in Arkham Asylum, in one night he goes into the prison, stops every criminal from leaving the island, learns wtf titan is, and defeats joker who is cracked up on titan. Even just the amount of side quests that happen in Arkham Knight, Arkham Batman has got to be the single most overpowered bad*ss in gaming.

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  5 днів тому +2

      I honestly don’t see what’s impressive about that and idk why people try wanking that fact to a dishonest degree
      Since when you break down the main stories of each game Batman almost always 1v1s the respective villains and even then he struggles in all the games at times
      At best it correlates to Batman having ridiculous stamina, but so does Spider-Man since he stayed awake for 72 hours in the PS4 game

    • @LassoedBooty
      @LassoedBooty 5 днів тому

      @TheGamingRift11 in batman arkham knight he wipes the floor with his whole rogues' gallery in one night which when you think about it is a few hours, maybe 12 at most but you're saying in the ps4 game Spiderman is awake for 72 hours which means it takes him DAYS to defeat however many enemies he has.
      Admittedly I haven't played those games so that's why I'm not saying anything against Spiderman but I fund it hard to believe that he would defeat batman in a 1v1

  • @JeirinZandamaki
    @JeirinZandamaki Місяць тому +4

    its funny how u didnt bring up the anti venom suit lmao

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +3

      Yep. Base versions for this video. If people wanna see a round 2 I don’t mind

    • @JeirinZandamaki
      @JeirinZandamaki Місяць тому +3

      @@TheGamingRift11 omfg please make a round 2 lmao. i wanna see people mad lol

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +3

      @@JeirinZandamaki might do

    • @JeirinZandamaki
      @JeirinZandamaki Місяць тому +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 🙏

    • @gravemistakes8427
      @gravemistakes8427 Місяць тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 YES PLEASE!!

  • @damocles9400
    @damocles9400 2 дні тому

    Batman is simply outclassed by Spider Man in most things, but people forget that Insomniac Spider Man is a seemingly quite naíve and young guy, whilst Batman is an older, master manipulator who has been doing this all his life. The biggest and most likely chance for Batman to win is through prep time, intellect, ingenuity and manipulation. Now as some people stated in the comments "Why does Batman get prep time and Spiderman doesn't?" Well, first of all Batman's prep time is better in not just the Arkham games, but every media than Spiderman's and it's also HIS thing, Batman hasn't been bit by an OP genetically engineered spider and didn't suddenly get superpowers, he had to earn most of what he has on his own (Other than his money of course) so it stands to reason he is the one who would get underestimated, and make up a better plan than Spiderman ever could. In the most logical scenario, Peter would get outsmarted and manipulated by Batman and have his powers taken away, either temporarily or maybe some way even permanently with Batman's signature prep time capabilities, after which he would get bodied due to the size and skill difference, because let's be honest, even if Spiderman's suit worked, without his powers he is...well "powerless" against Batman. In a fight to the death scenario Batman would of course get stomped, but I find these battles stupid in this way because they don't properly present the characters and hardly incorporate the character's behavior and instead just mash them together with raw strength, speed, etc etc.
    TLDR: Fight to the death is quite easily won by Spiderman. Real fight between the two character incorporating their personalities can go either way, with Batman most likely coming out on top (In my opinion)

  • @zeroattentiongaming820
    @zeroattentiongaming820 Місяць тому +8

    Best stupid claim I've seen is that Arkham Batman can hold his own against Bane, who would crush Pete with no effort...as if Pete hasn't faced the likes of The Lizard, The Rhino and Venom, all of whom have super strength without needing to be amped up on a drug and almost certainly could break Venomed up Bane in half if they really wanted to.
    To make it worse, they were saying Arkham Bruce would beat comic Pete in physical strength, the guy who has literally punched an armored superhuman's jaw clean off just by not holding back (well technically that was Otto but he was using Pete's body when he did it). As if comic Pete couldn't cave Bruce's skull in with a single good punch.

  • @ProbAfan
    @ProbAfan Місяць тому

    This shouldn’t even be a debate since we’re comparing video game characters that could just retry the fight every time 😭😭🙏

  • @NewUltraHero
    @NewUltraHero Місяць тому +4

    Insomniac Spider-Man FTW

  • @TheBigO72285
    @TheBigO72285 11 днів тому

    The weird thing is arguing who would win between two hero’s who would undoubtedly get along. Batman could only win against Peter like he does against Darkseid by making a serious threat to Peter such as making it to where if Peter attacks his identity is leaked or something but Parker would physically beat Batman. Id like to see them as a duo more often but for duos it’d also be cool to see how Batman and Ironman interact.

  • @Thomaselliotakahusn
    @Thomaselliotakahusn Місяць тому +4

    Brotha Batman has literally one shotted king shark who’s can go toe to toe with Superman ur just glazing Spider-Man.with the old super strength when Spider-Man couldn’t even lift a damn crane and Spider-Man couldn’t dodge scorpions attacks and couldn’t dodge taskmasters traps and when his villains jumped him he couldn’t do nothing while Batman can one shot deathstroke who is significantly stronger than Spider-Man and his whole villain gallery safe to say Batman is one shotting we can debate bout this to

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +1

      King shark doesn’t scale to superman. Idk why Amanda Waller said that since the game contradicts that notion all the time

    • @Thomaselliotakahusn
      @Thomaselliotakahusn Місяць тому +3

      @@TheGamingRift11 welp she said it they fought before the game so it proves 🤷

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +1

      @@Thomaselliotakahusn the only thing it proves is 0
      Especially given the game contradicts that notion repeatedly.
      Especially as a stronger Batman only one shots the weakest version of king shark
      Since consistently throughout the game KS and the squad get significantly more powerful as they get different tech to counter JL members.
      That amped suicide squad with their own fear toxin ended up beating Batman (somehow)
      With that same squad with speed force tech etc being insignificant next to superman and needed a massive amount of gold Kryptonite
      Especially as KS and the squad got folded by base wonderwoman - who superman killed even when she had Kryptonite 🤷‍♂️
      Also in the attack on Arkham film, King shark and a roster of the suicide squad struggled to beat Base Batman…… with that same Batman being weaker than the one in Knight. so unless Base Batman = Base superman pretty obvious it’s not true.
      Especially as Waller lies and manipulates all the time.

    • @Thomaselliotakahusn
      @Thomaselliotakahusn Місяць тому +2

      @@TheGamingRift11 well it shows a weaker Batman has the strength to one shot king shark who’s said to be Superman level so Amanda Waller is right in this case it shows Batman would just one shot Spiderman

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +1

      @@Thomaselliotakahusn if thats the case then the entire Arkham series is shit since at no point in time does Batman ever demonstrate to be a planet buster nor MFTL in the first 4 games.
      I appreciate you wanting Batman to beat Spiderman but please actually think about what you just said.

  • @justlivinglife5609
    @justlivinglife5609 25 днів тому +1

    I'd like to *imagine* Arkham Batman physically competing with Insomnaic Spider-Man and beating him due to a slight advantage in experience and intelligence... but that's the most to it. It's just my imagination. Your video is pretty clear to how much of a mismatch this is, even if it's thematically interesting.
    Bit of a tangent, but I gave up serious powerscaling and discussing hypothetical battles because topics like Marvel vs DC / OPM vs DBZ / Kratos vs anyone were really toxic and just stopped being fun. I would find it more fun to see Cavill Superman be beaten by Reynolds Deadpool or Goku to be taken out by Green Arrow's boxing glow arrow, even if it makes zero sense powerscaling-wise.
    So hearing about Arkham Batman vs Insomnaic Spider-Man gave me some bad memories about that, but it honestly feels more tame and calm by comparison. Arkham Batman in general helped bring back my interest in powerscaling because of how cool his feats were in Arkham Knight and Arkham Origins, specifically Fear Multi-Takedowns. He's not going to be catching hands with Silver Surfer or beating the shit out of Black Adam, but it's still cool enough to watch while grounded enough that it's physically believable by Batman standards

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  24 дні тому

      It definitely has a level of toxicity to it but it’s never that big a problem

  • @Kaiden-y61
    @Kaiden-y61 Місяць тому +3

    Do web of shadows vs insomica next i wanna see how that would go down

  • @IvanBlinov-po5mj
    @IvanBlinov-po5mj 12 днів тому

    Batman while beating up Spider man: "you are not brave. Men are brave."
    But in all seriousness, I think they would become friends, because they have tons of things in common, they both fight bad guys, do what's right, not what's easy, both fight crazy nemesis and nice gadgets. One could save the city during the day, and another one during the night.

  • @djb9267
    @djb9267 Місяць тому +3

    If someone reading this has a different opinion to my own, then we can gladly discuss it. These are just my thoughts and can absolutely be wrong.
    Why would property damage suddenly raise the earthquake up to level 8? He could have just meant the glass of the houses right next to where Peter landed, if These damages were caused at the very end of the City then it could potentially be higher. The highest end you can reasonably put Peter at is small town level with the symbiote, due to scaling to miles, who barely survived the huge explosion at the end of his game. Anything higher than that is reliant on Peter somehow scaling to sandman. He doesn't, he avoids fighting him directly and uses his weaknesses against him. He isn't anywhere near his level of strength.
    Otto being described as the 'ultimate' villain could just be in reference to his intelligence, rather than his power. The Peter he beat also had fiifteen broken bones, meaning he wasn't at one hundred percent.
    Otto was referring to the time it takes for his commands to reach the arms, they do not travel that fast, they just receive directions at that speed.
    All his spider sense does is give him a Heads up, it doesn't make him move out of the way. If Peter were to face someone far faster than himself, then this sense would be useless, as Peter wouldn't be fast enough to react. He has to still look around to know what is attacking him and then move his body out of the way.
    I, personally, do not take this seriously, but it is worth mentioning. Venom, someone far above an amped peter, gets his skin pierced by bullets from a helicopter. The joule output of bullets can of course range, but is usually found to be in the hundreds to thousands. Considering bane's feat is said to be in the millions, it would mean that batman would be far stronger than someone who is able to knock out an amped peter.

  • @Anyonelse-fs7zc
    @Anyonelse-fs7zc День тому

    Can't we just agree that even if they met, they would team up against villains rather than wasting time?
    Also, it is a no-brainer that peter would win but batman is smart enough not to attack an ally (at least when he doesn't know the weakness)

  • @Clodity
    @Clodity Місяць тому +4

    The definition of, "Tell me you're biased without telling me you're biased."

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +5

      @@Clodity the irony there is that I even highballed Batman 😅 hardly “biased”

    • @Clodity
      @Clodity Місяць тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 Well, you did straight up lie about two things in the video. One being the speed of Otto's arms, and the other being about the affects of the disrupter. The disrupter *permanently* disable's guns, camera's, drones, medical equipment, and the radar things on the enemies backs that I forgot the name of, instead of just temporarily like you stated. The second one being Doc's arms don't "CarRy oUt tAsKs iN unDEr a NanO sEcOnD," like you said. That's the speed it takes to respond to Otto's thoughts. So basically he can move his arms at the speed of a normal human. Also, you just *didn't* include SSKTJL for some reason.

    • @RevolvedScorpion
      @RevolvedScorpion Місяць тому +8

      ​@@ClodityA normal human cant respond to something in a nano second, also, he even gave Batman the benefit of the lightning thing which is dumb when Spiderman dodges real lighting with broken bones and fatigued.

    • @Clodity
      @Clodity Місяць тому

      @@RevolvedScorpion I never said a human can respond to something in less than a nano second. That's how long it takes for the robot arms to respond to Otto's thoughts. Try moving your arm. It happens basically instantly, right? That's what Otto managed to pull off. And that's what Otto said he did. He said that Otto's arm was able to carry out tasks in less than a Nano second, which is a blatant lie. Also, you *really* wanna go down this route with me.

    • @RevolvedScorpion
      @RevolvedScorpion Місяць тому +3

      @@Clodity Damn bro sry i misread the comment. But to be fair even so Spidsrman dodging electros blast with broken bones and fatigued is more impressive than anything Batman does.

  • @fenrir7.2
    @fenrir7.2 5 днів тому

    Something else to consider is that eventually Bruce will be torn down and exhausted He's only human, fighting a man with super powered super powers. Peter can easily beat him just through a war of attrition

  • @ath477
    @ath477 Місяць тому +5

    Random civilian: if you and Spider-Man were to fight who'd when
    Arkham Batman: if he were to use his webs he might cause me some trouble
    Random civilian: but would you lose
    Arkham Batman: I'm Batman (nah id win)

    • @ath477
      @ath477 Місяць тому +3

      He's getting diffed

  • @RaTrooper458
    @RaTrooper458 2 дні тому

    I am a massive Batman fan, but I know he would lose against Spiderman.
    However...Symbiote Suit Spiderman vs Arkham Knight Batman could be very interesting. Symbiote Spiderman is too aggressive to pay attention to Batman's Sonic Batarangs until its to late.
    To be honest...I would to see these guys work together. The lighthearted Spiderman and a grumpy Batman.

  • @WithcherKnight1307
    @WithcherKnight1307 Місяць тому +3

    Well If we choose to use suicide squad kill the justice league as arkham canon batman scales above king shark who's stated to be a physical equal to superman by waller whos faster than light nuke level In durability and via statements can hold planets by batman aswell as batman has mastery over using fear toxin consistently and ps4 spidey doesn't have alot of resistance to mental attacks and drugs he was almost dieing to scorpions venom induced hallucinations batmans suit is the same materials as flashs suit whos taken attacks from green lantern who scales to superman batman also should scale somewhat to the league in speed and with his brainiac enhancements and come to faster than light speeds so i think in character if we use suicide squad batmans gotten stronger just as fast if not faster and more durable and would win mid high diff since peter isnt a pushover and wont be an immediate stomp also batmans fought firefly and manbat in the air aswell as militia drones in the air so what are you talking about? Theres also the fact in the suicide squad movie joker survives a multi city block level explosion and batman scales above joker consistently hes also shown to dodge electrical attacks stated to be electricity in arkham knight prequel comics pre arkham knight suit and should scale to base time ftl since catwomans feat is consistent with batman and batman should upscale it since hes usally above catwoman theres also a feat where batman tanks multiple of banes goons firing on him and hes tanking the bullets and since batman blatantly one shoted the squad there able to fight and react to superman consistently and supermans shown to fly to the sun and back mid fight and that is calculated massively ftl

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +4

      I’d be careful using that scaling since it’s very easy to debunk as the game itself contradicts that notion

    • @WithcherKnight1307
      @WithcherKnight1307 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheGamingRift11 could you please be more specific?

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому +6

      @@WithcherKnight1307 claiming Bruce is anywhere close to superman in stats based on king shark statements
      Since the game debunks that statement several times

    • @SCF721
      @SCF721 Місяць тому +3

      King Shark is a physical equal to Superman...so much so that instead of fighting him head on he uses guns??
      I think Waller may have overestimated King Shark's strength just a *little* bit

    • @WithcherKnight1307
      @WithcherKnight1307 Місяць тому +1

      @@SCF721 I mean there guns were also amped enough to kill the league sooo using his physical strength would have been redundant

  • @vargasfenrirson4757
    @vargasfenrirson4757 Місяць тому +2

    Batman wins most fights because of the plot armor, help, or prep time XD

  • @mserrano816
    @mserrano816 Місяць тому +11

    Spiderman got knocked down by a fridge. Arkham batman all day!

    • @4e_vin255
      @4e_vin255 Місяць тому +7

      Batman also got held down by 2 penguin thugs what’s your point?

    • @mserrano816
      @mserrano816 Місяць тому

      @@4e_vin255 listen to yourself

    • @4e_vin255
      @4e_vin255 Місяць тому +3

      @@mserrano816 Look at your own comment first before telling me to listen to myself
      Beside you can’t even prove Arkham Batman wins either so get lost

    • @mserrano816
      @mserrano816 Місяць тому +2

      @@4e_vin255 spiderman couldn’t even takes down Kraven without needing a suit from SPACE! Batman was able to take down all his villains in his games. Peter always needed help from miles who’s less experienced than him.

    • @4e_vin255
      @4e_vin255 Місяць тому +5

      @@mserrano816 So? Even Batman couldn’t beat Kraven either so what’s your point?
      None of those villains scale to Kraven which even Mr.Negative can solo Batman’s rouge gallery let alone entire sinister six and Kraven
      Funny how you mentioned that when Batman consistently relies on his allies as well

  • @itzkiblo
    @itzkiblo Місяць тому +2

    Idk why this is even a debate really. You could give Batman every advantage and he'd still lose most of the time. Spiderman is just that much faster, stronger, and agile. Spiderman's abilities alone is enough to push him over the top but the fact that he's also a genius means Batman's one big advantage isn't even that big.
    Spiderman has been able to create his own cures, suits, and gadgets with no money. Batman with basically unlimited money usually has his stuff engineered by other people as he focuses on being a detective and not an engineer but his products arent as impressive as Spiderman's. Batman is extremely perceptive, it's not better than Spiderman's Spidey sense tho, which instinctively gives Spiderman info and doesnt require it to be danger or a time limit.

  • @samsantiago3919
    @samsantiago3919 Місяць тому

    I don’t know if this makes it more in Peter’s favor, but a lot of people don’t mention that under Scorpio’s toxin (which had him hallucinating objects, audio and touching things that don’t exist) still was able to keep his mind straight enough to cure himself of said toxin

  • @Malcipher2099
    @Malcipher2099 Місяць тому +1

    The funniest part for me is people getting mad about this because it doesn't even matter. The fact that spidey would kick his ass doesn't make batman any less cool in his verse because spidey doesnt exsist there lmao, he's still top dawg in gotham. It always just devolves into whose favorite character is the bestestest

  • @nolansmith8261
    @nolansmith8261 Місяць тому +1

    Doc’s arms do not operate in under 1 nanosecond. Thats how fast they receive signals from the brain. The actual mechanisms do not work that fast

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому

      Otto does imply that the prosthetics can operate at that level in the same cutscene
      With peters arms being confirmed to be an upgrade over Ottos arms

    • @nolansmith8261
      @nolansmith8261 24 дні тому

      @@TheGamingRift11 “intra-cranial neural network. Neurotransmission speeds under 1 nanosecond. Faster than signals travel inside the brain, nevermind to an external prosthesis.” That’s the quote. No mention of mechanical speeds

  • @brucenatelee
    @brucenatelee 3 дні тому

    Two of my favorite pseudo-ninjas.

  • @AmateurAnimations65
    @AmateurAnimations65 4 дні тому

    I will say, there's a feat you could use to potentially get Arkham Batman to island level and it comes from the first game. You can call it an outlier, but I say it's fair game for this debate. In Arkham Asylum, Batman faces a Titan-enhanced Poison Ivy in a straight up fight and doesn't just win, he kills her giant plant monster. In an earlier mission objective after obtaining the ultra claw gadget, it's stated "stop Poison Ivy before she destroys the island" directly confirming that this amped Ivy could and would have destroyed Arkham Island. There are even multiple statements from Oracle about how the plants are causing seismic activity throughout the island. Yet not only did Batman kill this potentially island level plant monster, he can break out of its vines with his own strength when bound.
    I love Spidey more than any other superhero and he still takes this, but so many people be sleeping on my boy Arkham Batman

  • @OOFEDITSS
    @OOFEDITSS Місяць тому +1

    If Im being honest here, Spiderman has better intelligence then batman, BUT let me explain.
    spiderman made a suit that can go faster than speed of light. Spidey also made holograms from parts from dumpster diving. He also made iron arms that can absorb and withstand city-mountain levels of electricity/energy. He also made a suit in around 30 minutes-1 hour after almost being beaten to death. Most of the tech bats uses is developed by lucius. He also made web shooters at like 15 or 14 years old but every spidey does that except tobey i guess. He also helped build doc ocks arms that are wayyyyy faster than the human reaction time and are durable enough to survive small explosions . He did the work for the nueral interface and stuff. He literally made a cure or serum for tombstones invulnerability and it worked. And he made it within an hour or less probably (In gametime it was like 2 minutes) he also made tech by himself that can analyze chemical components on a sub atomic level with limited budget.

    • @karimdavis7065
      @karimdavis7065 Місяць тому

      This shows that you know nothing about Batman

    • @miikelofficial2500
      @miikelofficial2500 Місяць тому

      Batman makes boomerangs 😂 peter made webs​@@karimdavis7065

  • @kingsneak6805
    @kingsneak6805 Місяць тому +1

    I don’t wanna take away from the hacking part but keep in mind. Bruce Wayne enterprise has most of the technology in the world and most of the time he’s hacking his own technology. So I’m not sure if the hacking part stands up in a fight at least.

  • @descend3r
    @descend3r Місяць тому +1

    I'm pretty biased when it comes to the Arkham Batman and I tried my best to debunk your video but you make some really good points and let's all be honest. Spider-Man is always pulling his punches and there 's sometimes in the movies and in the games when he doesn't pull his punches and you can really see how strong he is. I do think that Spider-Man easily folds. Arkham Batman, I do think though that if Batman had prep time that he could maybe beat Spider-Man

    • @ayjay5344
      @ayjay5344 Місяць тому

      i mean preptime isint really a garunteed win even with preptime against his biggest threat superman he still doesent really win in the sense that superman cant fight back, he uses his prep time to stall to try and break mindcontrol or to make him yeild in all of those though that relied on superman holding back and staying true to who he is, what prep would batman to do spiderman? and in how much time cause depending on the version it took years and billions of dollars to prep for a villian

  • @alatusedits
    @alatusedits Місяць тому +2

    A Batman fanboy Divine just made a video about it. And bro said they have relative AP and batman's faster lol. These fanboys are out of control

  • @hobovan.
    @hobovan. Місяць тому

    one thing at 5:35, otto says neurotransmission speeds under one nano second, as in there’s effectively zero delay between his brain and the arms, not that the arms can physically execute tasks under one nanosecond. he can just control them as if they were his own limbs, if not better than that, but he doesn’t say anything about the speed of the arms themselves in that cutscene (haven’t played the game so idk about the rest).

  • @HAMISHCARR1975
    @HAMISHCARR1975 14 годин тому

    As much as I like my goat Brucie, Spider-man still slams even if Batman got prep-time, don't forget Peter is a genius as well. Even without their suits Peter still easily wins this fight as his physical prowess is just too much for our billionaire playboy. ( trillionnaire now, billionaire was so last year )

  • @Jack-ht5uc
    @Jack-ht5uc Місяць тому

    IF batman had prep time maybe he could make a spray that dissolves his webs or certain gadgets that can counter his attacks

  • @DaneK805
    @DaneK805 Місяць тому

    Remember Spider-Man took on 6 of the supervillains at once and was able to stay alive and after he got whooped he defeated them one by one WITH BROKEN BONES

  • @shyozra
    @shyozra Місяць тому

    Also mans got struck by lightning 2 times in the fight with sandman and got back up

  • @yuhstupid5658
    @yuhstupid5658 День тому

    You can’t fckn beat Batman. They are two masterpieces. Arkham was revolutionary at its time, and it made insomniac Spider-Man. This is from a diehard Spider-Man fan who has played every single Spider-Man game and only a couple Arkham games. Arkham made the insomniac games. They are both masterpieces.

  • @Hell_diver1
    @Hell_diver1 Місяць тому +2

    Spider man has web shooters. Enough said.

    • @karimdavis7065
      @karimdavis7065 Місяць тому

      Batman has batarangs, done

    • @4e_vin255
      @4e_vin255 Місяць тому +1

      @@karimdavis7065 tf is batarang gonna? Throw it at Peter? As if Peter didn't casually dodge bullets, missiles and lasers before

  • @EnocLeon-s2k
    @EnocLeon-s2k Місяць тому +1

    Let's hope the insomniac spiderman series doesn't get tainted like the Arkham series did with suicide squad kill the justice league.

  • @Dalildude
    @Dalildude Місяць тому +1

    I love both games, but i don't think they would fight. If anything, they'd probably work together, but if they did fight, then Spiderman would win

  • @zqninja3334
    @zqninja3334 3 дні тому

    Everyone thinks they that one dude that thinks Naruto might be Universal, and convinced people for over a month.
    Believe me, your delivery is capable of that feat.

  • @laracidhazael274
    @laracidhazael274 20 днів тому

    As a child spiderman was my favourite, as a man its batman, i can actually be like him

  • @MattTGM
    @MattTGM Місяць тому

    I agree. Batman is my GOAT, but Spider-Man counters his greatest strengths, has gadgets and tech to help against Batmans and he's just plain stronger, makes sense, he's a superhuman.
    the only thing I'd say is that Wraith was able to keep up with Spiderman and she's a normal human, but we can all agree that Peter was holding back. take away his restraint and Bruce is getting taken out. they're both still amazing though

  • @ChampionProductionsYT
    @ChampionProductionsYT Місяць тому +1

    Spider-Man wins but in my opinion it is with high to extreme difficulty

  • @Mr_Miner_102
    @Mr_Miner_102 Місяць тому +1

    this isn't how power scaling works..

  • @CantSitzDyl
    @CantSitzDyl Місяць тому +2

    isnt spidey sorta smarter since he has to do calculations in his head whenever he swings around n stuff?

    • @TheGamingRift11
      @TheGamingRift11  Місяць тому

      I feel like Bruce would be smart enough to do that if he HAD to do it if that makes sense - but you aren’t wrong

    • @ATalesTruth-
      @ATalesTruth- Місяць тому +1

      When it comes to intellect
      At a certain point it’s all relative
      In which your area of focus is what determines who is better
      In this case both crime fighters both solve crimes and both are very well educated
      Meaning who is really smarter comes down to what you value more
      Peter with less resources and knowledge can create technology ahead of the current time and outsmart the smartest of the world, while being a good fighter on top
      Batman is a better tactician detective and more skilled in combat, who can outsmart entire armies despite being outnumbered and outgunned
      Meaning in a fight scenario my money is on Batman in intellect
      In laymen terms
      Donnie and Leo from TMNT can both be argued as smarter then the other
      Only one focuses on the scientific areas and technology
      The other forces on strategy and outsmarting an opponent on the fly