i mean a vast majority of artists ate picasso for various reasons ranging from not liking the art itself to the fact he had assulted multiple women both physically and sexualy and refused to portray the people he painted in his artwork as their true selves and instead decided to make it depressing for no fucking reason.
Hi. A fellow artist here, please know, you are doing great, dont back down for them, it is your art, its your choice!!!!You draw how you choose to do, you are not raising a nation, most of them are sick, sad ignorant people, it their job to hop everywhere to hate on people. It is not about body positivity, it is art its called drawing in different style! You are doing nothing wrong, I am repeating don't change for them. My god! Girl you rock, please know that. 💜You can do what you want without catering to their taste or changing!Don't stop for anyone!!!💜 they have no rights or a say in your work!!
Don't let these haters take you down. I just looked at your works and I'm amazed. Love your artstyle! You're a great artist, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
@@emila732 the snake was fine. it’s alright to hold snakes, of course, and she held the snake in a good way(supporting the entire body). i’ve seen the video, and reading the body language, the snake was clearly fine. didn’t look super stressed, and was even handled extremely well when given to britney.
@@catsareawesome4124 I was joking but at some point I still don't understand the need to use animals on stage , performances ? Do they really need that? in the end even if he is not stressed , does he really want it? :D maybe he prefer other job? XD
Everything about that image is heavily stylized, including color! Interesting how there don't seem to be people upset over the exaggerated color palette 🤔
People act like they’ve never watched a cartoon?? One of the main lessons in character design is to EXAGGERATE features in order to make a character look more interesting. This whole thing is bananas
I'm not defending the criticism, but Brittney's waist doesn't go in at all. If she wanted to exaggerate Britney's body she should have drawn a rectangle.
@@terenarosa4790 That’s not her style though. Look at the artist’s other works and you will quickly become familiar with their language. They honed their technique by drawing elongated bodies with exaggerated proportions.
@@terenarosa4790 is she now? what "exageration" do u want? sexy? attractive? more female? or blocky? sure, its subjective. maybe u love rectangular girls idk. but i will assume average audience will agree that curvy is really the way to portray great "female" postures. and i might have no right to say that cuz i dont even know how "should have drawn a rectangle" looks. maybe u can draw that, put it in imgur or smth, post the link here, and let everyone have a look at what your definition of Britney's exaggerated body.
The artist was clearly not being malicious. It’s obviously a very stylized, fun drawing, meant to honor Britney. That’s the thing that gets me. These people just want to bully her into drawing how they want her to. Well guess what, you want a realistic britney? Put in years of work and draw her yourself.
Exactly. All these children crying about representation. I dont know what is stopping all those 'as an artist' people from making their own art to tackle the under representation issue? They Instead choose to shame other artists for not fitting their own personal values. Go out there and bring the change yourself instead of bringing other people down. Also that one comment saying something along the lines of of "not rocket science to draw a straight line". Lmfao. Id love to see you try dude.
@@-LTUIiiin Yea, they are literal children too. I'm 25 and ain't NOBODY my age gonna comment this kind of bullshit on a benign ass instagram post. The sensitivity is off the fucking scales, I'm actually fucking triggered at the fact these kids are mad at her for not promoting "diversity" at every possible opportunity.
Main reason why I uninstalled tiktok is that people create stupid petty and useless problems and drama like this. It's not the entirety of tiktok but from my expeience using the app, it's all I've seen, drama here, drama there, it's a never ending cycle of toxicity and the fact people have the audacity to 'call out an artist for drawing a really thin waist' ??? Do people just have a huge ego nowadays? Geez..
I think this is a problem with the "art community" in general. maybe it's just me but it always seems to attract the most pretentious irrational people
And then they're 13yo who started drawing digitally one year ago (making mha fanarts) and can't even name art styles other than anime, cartoon and realism
Well no shit, because instead of practicing a craft and getting good, theyre spending their hours being critical of other people. Thats what happens when you're a full-time Twitter goblin.
@@h3rpad3rpacifilis people literally go trough a living hell and still pursue their careers to the very end while you people cry over a few comments on social media and ignore all the compliments. Do you draw for yourself or to satisfy strangers ? That is your choice and it's also a choice to read hate.comments and offended by it
skellyaart Instagram - I am the truth. I have never heard a much more ignorant comment, thats so insensitive tf😭 while you may say that its about the "will" of an artist to pursue what they want, you can't blame them when all the hate starts taking a toll on their mental health. Some people would be extremely passionate about something but start to question and ultimately stop their love for something because people wasn't supportive nor accepting of it. Some have different reasons when they started pursuing arts, whether it be for compliments, for their own satisfaction, a required skill,etc.. if they continue to receive negative response to whatever they do, they will start to lose interest or lose confidence. This just doesn't apply to artist, this applies to all people pursuing a career or field.
I love how they're mad at how the body isn't "realistic" but the everything else is also stylized, almost like it's all INTENTIONALLY stylized by the artist, idk just saying
You’re right, I mean the fact that she has no nose bridge is also pretty annoying (also kind of a dig at samdoesart) but no amount of colour stylization or applying proportional changes or line weight variation to someone’s eyes deletes their organs ^^
@@stevelandon7032 sam stylises his characters with knowledge of an actual face and anatomy? I do not understand the point you are trying to make as stylisation does not delete someone's organs and is not a bad thing either?
I feel for this artist. She's trying to rationalize the irrational. She's trying to find reason where there is none. She is clearly talented. I hate that this made her question herself.
i love one comment which was like "you seem unable to branch out as an artist" and when someone replied with "She's a professional character designer" the commenter went "I am turning 18 in nov and i've been perusing art as a career for 4 years". The two aren't even on the same level lmao
I love that the top comment is, "Part of being an artist is receiving criticism. If you like it great. But everyone else is allowed to say they don't. That's how artist grows." I see this opinion thrown around so much and it's extremely misleading. Uninvited criticism, vitriol, and purposefully ignoring the intent of the art doesn't help anyone to grow. You don't go to art school and have your soul absolutely crushed on a daily basis by your teachers. If you want to 'help artists grow' then you need to provide constructive feedback WITHOUT the unnecessary childish drama. There's a difference between being blunt and just being an asshole. There is nothing wrong with this art. The artist clearly achieved the cartoony seductive feeling that was intended. It was never meant to be a one-to-one with the reference image. (Also, I'm a bit jealous of that linework)
@@user-mz1fk4yb1o That part of the comment might not technically be wrong but the 'that's how artist grows' part is (both grammatically and in practice).
i am definitely taking screenshot of this comment!! ive seen so many people who use critism as an excuse to bash on others, using rude language and even personally attacking artists for that. thank you for your opinion
Why do they assume she cant do other body types because of the stylization of one art piece? I like the piece, it reminds me of shows like winx club. A lot of these performative woke kids are very uneducated about stylization. A lot of them would probably give a fat woman an obligatory hourglass shape with a perfectly shaped belly themselves. If the artist is reading this, dont let them get to you! Tiktok kids can be very toxic, they are immature and dont know what theyre actually talking about. Dont let them get to you! ♥️
This poor girl got hate because people don’t understand what a caricature (edit: since I’m still getting comments about my choice of word for this image, I will from now on call every illustration I see a doodle. A good ol doodle. Damn this doodle sure looks nice) is. 😑 Well she got a new fan out of this, I can’t wait to see more of her beautiful art!
It's a lovely drawing. It's stylized and represents Brittney's essence at her core in her own body. This is why I block people that love to cause drama for no reason.
I like how their saying “every artist needs to be criticized” or some other bs like if this this is CLEARLY art that is for FUN and the artist themselves doesn’t specifically ask for criticism, there is no reason. I don’t actively look for criticism, let alone random people from the internet, to improve my art because it’s a hobby. And even if some artist were making money from it, good for them, people like their art enough to buy it.
People that think their criticism is sent from god are the worst in drawings and wants to say bs about stuff they don't know. I draw and i can say i learnt with time how to say to people to fuck off
It's a common toxic behavior in every art community. Some people just wanna feel superior to others just because they wanna compensate for their lack of talent or skill 😑
i feel like it's such a karen move, it's like those karens that criticise retail workers thinking they're imparting their wisdom when really they can fuck off and let people do their job
Not every artist should be a social warrior and not every work of art should be a statement piece to further every social justice movement all the time. It's an amazing thing to demand diversity on popular media, but artist posting their free time work should not be scrutinized with the same standards.
Yeah, I don't personally like the style of the piece. But when it comes to the matter of critiquing the damaging abundance of super-thin and hourglass women in media and cartoons, and a single artist drawing a stylized fan piece of Brittney, there's a big difference. She shouldn't of gotten the heat she did.
It's weird how most of the time it's the _female_ artists who are expected to be perfect and socially aware of everything all the time, isn't it? (Not all the time but a disproportionate amount) 😏🤔
"not every work of art should be a statement piece to further every social justice movement all the time. It's an amazing thing to demand diversity on popular media, " Are you saying that people can't draw a diverse range of people without it being a "statement piece"
Bruh, someone in the comments tried to flex that they're "18 and pursuing an art career". Not only did they prove they knew nothing about character design and exaggeration, but they just started off their career journey by slandering an industry professional.
A quick story: I was trying to figure out how to draw women better, so I go to Jazza's tutorial, and the amount of hate comments I see for him only drawing the 'ideal' body type is just absurd. What's stupider is he even mentions a completely separate video he has that helps drawing people of all body types. I go over to the drawing tutorial for a male body, and the drawing is of a fairly athletic, muscly guy. No hate comments whatsoever I don't think people even want to support gender equality anymore, I think they just want to pretend to so they can seem like a good person
Theres a reason superheroes are jacked, Greco-Roman statues are toned and athletes are well... Athletic. These are the body types we find the most desirable and aesthetically pleasing to look at. And i wish these kids had the same fire for their juiced and plastic peers as they do for a fucking creative expression.
I feel sorry for Jazza, he's always so kindhearted and creative. One time I got annoyed too, lately I've been sharing my artworks of fairies on Twitter and some people told me I'm racist, because I didn't draw dark skinned characters. I'm just bad at shading in general and have no underlying intentions whatsoever. 😅
I recently went through something similar. A few weeks ago, my four best friends (two were artists) decided to drop me because of my anime styled, unrealistic artwork. I draw sexy anime girls, yes, but I've always made sure to include both body type and race diversity in my art. Plenty of plus sized girls on my page and I take pride in it, and enjoy drawing them. Still, they called my art "misogynistic and unethical", and idk, I feel like a lot of people just don't understand stylization. Art doesn't have to be photorealistic. I feel like this shitty mentality is getting more popular and I feel like it's going in completely the wrong direction.
I'm going to copy and paste a comment I left elsewhere, because I think this is something more people need to hear. This is something taught to me in my upper years of psychology education. I hope this helps you to not overthink or doubt your art too much! "Drawing her this way isn't about Western cultural issues at all. This is an ignorant way to view the situation. Let me explain. This artist clearly explained that she tried to exaggerate her secs appeal, which Britney was known for. So, she made her have a narrow waist and curvy hips. Now, in every culture on earth, men are attracted to a certain waist-to-hip ratio, where the waist is quite small compared to the hips. When something is a cultural universal, this means we know it must be evolutionary, not culturally-bound. There is an ideal waist-to-hip ratio because humans (particularly men) evolved to have visual cues to fertility. You can easily search this up if you don't want to take my word for it. So to exaggerate Britney's secs appeal, the artist would not draw her as a square. Women also intuitively understand waist-to-hip ratio and what signifies in the human psyche. She is a good artist BECAUSE she understands hpw to speak to the human psyche. Men liking that body type, women drawing that body type to convey attractiveness... there's nothing wrong with it. It's not "the patriarchy", unless every cultural and our very minds are "the patriarchy". There is nothing we need to overcome here. Thinking otherwise is to despise what it means to be human."
Agreed. Also, exaggerated hourglass figures are simply fun to draw. If she were the main character of a children’s show it wouldn’t be appropriate, but this is just a fun drawing.
Remember this. “How can you know you’re going in the right direction unless you encounter enemies along the way?” Hopefully you saw the VALUE in the encounter. People try to make you feel bad so that you cant see how far your talents will take you. They CAN see it but dont want you too. Your art will go further than theirs AND you will retain your individuality at the end. Blessings to you and I encourage you to continue. Dont stop.
It's almost as if people who try to adhere to a "correct" and "good" personality tend to be rotten on the inside, whereas the people who act with honesty have more depth because they understand themselves better than the people bottling everything up
I feel like when it comes to the General art community there's tons of people who are assholes but when it comes to NSFW art communities most people are pretty chill but the bad people are REALLY bad
I find that no matter what your opinion is if you throw around hate and contention then you are wrong. The truth is always somewhere in the middle and surrounded by agreeing to disagree. Both sides have haters but people keep pointer their fingers at the other side saying they're the haters not realizing they're being hypocrites. Not to mention, you're more likely to catch flies with honey than vinegar. Have a peaceful conversation about topics can lead to connection and a change of opinions. We cannot fight hate with more hate, people just put up walls.
yeah that's definitely present in a small part of our community of progressives (our referring to me and mine IDK about you) I get it, I was a passionate teenager once too, but twitter hadn't trained us to howl at the moon yet so my beef with unrealistic character bodies and stuff was done via forum posts so way more time to think things through. (doesn't mean I was always perfectly nice or always right) definitely throttled the hatred spigot. Doesn't help that America and the south in particular (fuck georgia, it sucks here) train people to go for perfection at any cost, so when those people finally learn about not shitting on minorities they attempt perfect records and no matter who you are or what you're doing trying to be perfect or enforce perfect will make you toixc, politics, cooking, hugs, doesn't matter, chasing perfect will hurt you and others. That said I saw this before watching the video and it's been playing this entire time and a soundbite caught my attention "they're not trying to make anything better they're just sowing hate" is something that is so incorrect it hurts my soul. Doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is something that has to be called out and corrected because it'll hurt people but doing the wrong things doesn't mean your reasons are wrong or invalid. Like this whole thing might be a nontroversy (I'm not super educated on the particular subject matter, and don't see anything weird about the art myself) but the more this video goes on the more I'm hearing a message along the lines of "these people's criticisms are wrong (which is debatable cause that's subjective, but in this case I agree with this premise) coma, there's nothing wrong with female representation in media" it's like B does not follow from A at all, in fact B is an important piece of why A is an issue. oppression either breaks someone (this is about society at large and in no way talks about the two people in this video) or inflames their passion to fight it. you're not gonna hear from the broken, and the fighters that aren't balls of rage and bitterness (a state I call half-broken, from personal experience) aren't really spending their time on twitter. *shrug* hope that makes sense, which I had more than an explanation of the what and why I think is going on, like how to stop the people with good hearts from being toxic lunatics on twitter. Unfortunately the only way I've ever managed to reason with someone like that (a homophobe in this case) it was one on one personal discourse, and twitter basically makes that impossible, cause it doesn't generate traffic that can be sold for ads.
@@hornylink One on one is definitely better, because you can actually talk to someone and understand their perspective. Hate just creates more hate, but when you can talk with respect for one another goos things happen. But on the point of perfection, because I have some things I've learned over the years. I grew up in Washington though, so a very different culture. But it all stems from the translation of the Bible and how Christ commands us to be "perfect." But a more accurate translation is whole, and then people's reaction is "oh, so perfect means whole." 🤦 No. Perfect, at least the way we use it is inaccurate and impossible, I would say that not even God is perfect because perfection is stupid. Look at nature, some of the most beautiful things are broken of imperfect and we shouldn't change them for the world. We are also all different and unique, how can you measure perfection when we are all different and have a different potential? But we do each have great potential to continuously become better at the things we do, forever, but if we are always learning and improving perfect does not exist and is stupid to look for. But we are creatures of growth and seek to learn and improve, that is good and healthy. For example, in art, what does perfect even mean? That your art looks exactly like reality? Obviously, no. So now I like to say I'm working towards my potential, still doesn't embody what I'm getting at, but it's closer and more personal. It also depends on your self worth, but knowing that everyone has unlimited potential then this perspective could help your self worth. Trying to be perfect has always bugged me and is pretty toxic, so I just wanted to share my experience with it as well. Hope that helped and made sense...
@@ThatOneLadyOverHere it made sense, and I appreciate the effort, not religious/christian though so it doesn't really resonate with me. again I can tell you're trying to help though so I appreciate that.
One of the things that bother me the most about this situation is the amount of people telling her that she should handle criticism if she is an artist when most of the critics weren't actually helpful, most can't really tell the difference between a stylized body and only drawing one body type.
@.ReapingSkeletons. true but drawing a fanart of a real living person and changing their body type because it’s the only one you can do is still weirdo behavior
@@sayaalicious9146 its stylized. stop putting false implications on the artist as if she fr sat there thinking "i am now going to change the body type of this person on purpose." do you draw? its not easy.
The whole argument has no sense… She can draw whatever she wants and how she wants (on her own social media), everyone in the comments nowadays has become an “expert”. Criticising is always easy, try drawing it yourself
damn im getting a deja vu from tumblr days when people would send death threats to an artist who dared to draw exaggerated body types and accusing them of drawing "unrealisitic" bodies without knowing that stylization is a thing. the only thing thats missing is for other people to "fix" her work
Yes, social justice warriors emigrated from tumblr to twitter, insta etc. and they keep telling younger generation that they have to fight for rights online so we get the current mess of entitled 14yo children, who never faced a problem in their entire lives, going around the internet looking to be offended and correct other people who dare to not propagate their "world view".
@@Progeusz Seeing the current state of TikTok is concerning. It's like Tumblr in its heyday, but ramped up to 11. If you want to find the most ridiculous gatekeepy stuff, that's the place to look.
I'm so confused. Is art not a skill that literally anybody with hands can learn? Why are people expecting others to represent THEM. it is not an artists job to represent you or your body, nor is it their job to change their artistic vision because YOU dont like it. They draw what THEY want. If you want representation, then youre more than welcome to put in the years of hard work and dedication to achieve it. There is no fucking reason why any artist should have to represent anybody. Learn the skill, learn to draw so that YOU can get that representation. the entitlement of people on the internet is completely ridiculous.
Activism becomes popular culture in every generation, I'm not suprised by the reaction. Unfortunately this time it seems, there is more time spent looking for a fight, then actually solving a real problem.
agreed. like go out and talk to your neighbors. Start a food not bombs chapter. Get involved with your local BLM chapter. These online conversations get performative very quickly and comes off more as a "gotcha" than legitimate concern for the topic.
@@TheCatsMe00w B-L-M is Bs Marxism(same stuff they did in the 1920s America, using the exact same buzzwords). They just use people. It's one of the reasons they kill3d secorcia Turner and didn't care and why the co founder bought multiple mansions and then handed the "mission" over.
As an artist/freelancer, I, too, get annoyed at trends, "influencer" faces, certain body types, and certain things artist's do or don't do, but I just don't follow that artist or scroll past. There's an artist I recently came across where 99% of their work is extremely symmetrical, perfectly smooth, big lipped, tiny chin, "model" esque faced women portraits. Their skill and their ability to render is great. Their creativity and subject choice, I find very boring. But it is not my job to care so much that I feel entitled to bitch about it on their platforms in front of their followers, patrons, or clients. All that would do is make me look like an ass, waste their time, and negative feedback hardly ever warrants improvement- especially if the criticized don't see their "flaws" as flaws (you know, because art is subjective). There's certainly some big names that I stopped following due to lack of expanding their subjects or their switch from SFW to NSFW (and I follow artist's who do both, but one in particular no longer does SFW at all. I missed their old art, so I stopped following them). I'd rather unfollow one to follow another. It's my right to do so just as it's the artist's right to express themselves the way they want to.
@@blackbat908 my UA-cam handle is the same on twitter, DA, and Instagram. I draw fantasy art and some TF art (not everyone's cup of tea). Mostly human/humanoid, 90% sfw content. :)
@@aaaaaaaaa6417 my negativity was value atleast I came up with the thought instead of copying quotes. I missed the funny part but please enlighten me more about this funny joke that made you jiggle. The standards for comedy has dropped down so low it seems. You can't defend stupidity no matter how badly you try to paint me as you will fail
People fail to realize that an artist has the right to draw whatever tf they want just because you draw a certain way doesn’t mean I have to I have the right to draw whatever I want
In case anyone is actually wondering, that snake is a female albino Burmese python, she was 7 ft and 25 lbs at the time of the music video, and now she's 15 feet 100 lbs and living her best life. I'm no expert on popstars or body image, but I can confidently say this artist did a good job drawing the scaly girl and capturing her "No ears, don't care, this dance is pretty cool I guess" energy ❤️ If you're reading this and you're thinking how cool that snake is, and how you think it would be cool to have a snake buddy, you're in luck! Snakes are actually the easiest pets to keep as long as you get one that's not too venomous or too big. This is according to me AND actual experts. Do you're research to get a good snake and put it in a good set-up, and you'll have a drama-free buddy for the next decade or two. But watch out, it's hard to stop at just getting one 🥳
Thank you for this comment!! When I saw a popular singer holding a snake, I was worried because I thought she was just doing it to look cooler. I was like, what happened to the poor snake after this? I'm SO glad she was loved and cared for. ;w; I love snakes!
Isn't the snake named Banana? I think I read that somewhere. Which isn't the important part of knowing that the snake is well cared for, but I just love that little tidbit!
@@bunbunmikey7485 Britney called her Banana. The yellow coloration/morph is sometimes referred to as banana so that's probably where the idea came from. The owner apparently just lets whoever's working with her call her whatever, or wants to keep her real name private? That's why I didn't mention a name, but for our purposes here Banana is as good a name as any :)
If Brittany was a large woman with an underrepresented body type this would make sense. If you drew Lizzo skinny that would be a reason for alarm. But Brittany was always thin and attractive so drawing her that way and exaggerating it is not so strange. Body image in Hollywood and music is complicated but I think Brittany now is comfortable enough in her skin to not be bothered.
This is on point. Great way to explain how unfair this situation is without disparaging the legitimate wider discussion about how representations of unrealistic body types can be harmful.
I personally think this is a grey area. I think the intention is harmless.But people who see themselves in Brittany with her body type might be hurt because it feels like the representation they see themselves in is going away? Like you said about Lizzo! She is also someone people see themselves in.
There's no alarm either way. Draw a skinny person fat or a fat person skinny, doesn't matter. People want to get upset, it actually fulfills them to be outraged.
Right? That was one of my first thoughts too. The nsfw community will literally make fanart of real people and give them insane proportions in all sorts of way and no one bats an eye when that is MEANT to be over-sexualised or exaggerate some of their natural proportions. People really do find reasons to complain everyhere 🙄 smh.
Look, i myself had this nsfw account doing fanarts of videogames/anime characters and if I ever got dogpiled it was by teens who somehow had the “view sensitive media” activated and where browsing the nsfw tag. Then they complain that they got traumatized because you happened to draw their favorite (as if I did t because i thought of them) and they would never, so they have to honor their fictional idol and paint the artist the villian. I’m sorry to say but it’s these kids and their parents that are usually the problem. Feels like people blaming videogames because 3 kids are violent
@@tiquismistica9417 Just like garnet's song, "Lookin for someone to blame, like its a game, like its a game, I am better than win or lose, its called the truth its called the truth". They always want to have a win or lose scenario, wanting to have a thing to blame it on even if its irrelevant. Why cant we just have an understanding, no wins no loses, just people knowing the mindset of the other and coming to a realization of why they do what they do
The thought that nsfw communities are somehow uniquely exempt from this same criticism is laughable. It’s about not normalizing this level of organ deleting stylization as aspirational material for either intended or unintended demographics.
its funny cuz there's lit a britney parody character in fairly odd parents that has the same body type as her art and i doubt theyre shaking and crying and throwing up about that 💀
because tiktok is a bunch of mindless teenagers with tunnel vision, they dont understand that there are actual decisions behind stylization of characters. Aint nobody say shit about shredded musclebound dudes though, no man looks like that.
The worst part is that there's an interesting conversation to be had about the topic, there's a genuine critique about body types and beauty standards, but this people used this genuine concern to attack, harass, and bully this artist when she clearly had no bad intent. They used a valid observation just to shit on a person, and that's fucked up.
I’m tired of people imposing their own hatred, insecurity, and negativity onto others. I find solace in the Weird Al proverb: “Didn’t like that one […], have another!” (-keep doing your thing-).
People who go on a moral rampage like this and think they're having a positive impact on the world are delusional. If you end up the target of this kind of moral panic, try not to take it personally because these people are usually just upset about something else and using you as an unhealthy outlet for their rage.
5:45 As an Artist you don’t HAVE to do anything another person says, once you pick up that pen/pencil/brush whatever you are in charge. You make your decisions. Art is freeform, why would you ever tie yourself down to what you can or cannot do. Ruins the point of it all
I almost spat out my water at "if it's based on somebody real, you have to adhear to realistic body proportions" holy shit there's so many pieces of media from political cartoons that depicts caricatures to anime and cartoons that we all grew up with and even abstract art that defies realistic body proportions. No one has ever followed that rule unless you're a realism artist, which is understandable lol. The gatekeeping mindset boggles me.
I don’t think anyone criticising is talking about realist body proportions but in fact body type. Britney doesn’t have an hourglass to begin with so its not something to exaggerate. She has a sporty toned rectangle shape with wide and in line shoulders waist and hips. This artist is skilled and used to draw many exaggerated stylised body types years back but now seem’s to draw mostly curvy hourglass figures. If it’s what they like then fair, though when drawing a real person it’s only respectful to not morph them into what the artist’s thinks of as an ideal body. I 100% believe this artist is capable of drawing Britney’s body in a sexy exaggerated way but like she said in the video, she prefers drawing curvy bodies (which is highly likely she’s subconsciously feeding into current beauty trends though obviously not her fault as I think we’re all susceptible to it)
@@Oopsydaisie Okay but she can draw different bodies types, she didn’t want to in this drawing lmao. It wasn’t a mistake, it was a choice and all these people coming at her like she accidentally drew an hourglass figure is stupid as hell
NEVER remove yourself after negative comments about your work- it will blow over eventually - sometimes these negative mobs move in packs/ hive mind. Just continue. You will win in the end if your persevere.
On today's news, non artist criticizes an actual artist for drawing fan art. Also, as a young person, we do not claim these rude kids on tiktok. Its absolutely disgusting that they would so that.
She drew a cartoon not the ideal human. I can’t comprehend why people get so peeved about proportions that are exaggerated for effect! Just want exact body types? That’s boring!!
@@cxnclled_6237 Agreed! But, I think the Millennials are pretty good contenders too. Since we kinda paved the way further for the Z after our previous generation of shitheads aka Boomers. Every generation creates their own brand of future shitheads.
All the hate she got/is getting is total bs. I think we can all agree that she sounds like a very well-rounded and down to earth individual. She wasn’t being hateful towards different body types. I don’t understand what the big deal is. Sometimes I think people just want to be hateful just because.
Yep, they do, or they are really stupid and ignorant to understand that they are hateful. This whole situation here is toxic and wrong on so many levels.
I realize that people behave like this because they are unhappy and frustrated, they think that other people are responsible for what they feel which is not true. They are oversensitive over their complexes. They very often experience something not very great in the past and because of that they think that all people for example by just drawing thin females are hamming them. Like for example a girl that was sexually abused may in the future has problems to trust men's and form healthy relationship , first she will need to find peace in her self before she can move further.
saw that one of the tiktok comments said "pArT oF bEinG aN aRtiST iS rEceiViNG cRiTiciSm" which i thought was pretty stupid. not every artist or every drawing is drawn for the sake of improvement. constructive criticism is something you ask for, not something you should be expected to put up with on every image you draw. a huge part of art is self satisfaction and creating something you enjoy. its all so subjective and to suggest that as an artist you should be fine with constant critique and be ever-changing to please people is wrong. of course, its important to be able to keep learning and improving your craft, but this women is a professional. she's constantly improving, taking critique, practicing, and learning. she should be able to post ONE nice drawing without people feeling the need to project their expectations of her art onto her.
This may be an unpopular opinion but I fall hard on the 'this is not an issue' side of the fence. I even think Jackie was far too lenient on these people - saying things like "I could add more representation to my work" etc You don't have to. It's your work. If all you want to draw are hyper sexualised women with hourglass figures then do it, it's no one's business to tell you what kind of art you should or shouldn't be making. Make all the arguments you want about representation, feminism and body image but the buck stops at artistic freedom in my mind. Turn that ire to big companies and media who force male actors to dehydrate for 3 days before shooting and women to starve themselves and then photoshop them even thinner because it's still not enough. An artist drawing exaggerated shapes on any social media platform is not part of the problem and again, in my mind, even if it was then artistic freedom still trumps someone else's politics.
Thank you!! I completely agree. When we start policing what body types/styles an artist can draw in their own free time, we're censoring creative expression and putting artists in a box. This artist didn't deserve to get any hate and she certainly shouldn't feel like she did anything wrong.
last I checked artistic freedom doesn't mean freedom from criticism, and unless these people were trying to get her fired or something (which this is not deserving of in any way) them saying their opinion is just freedom of expression (you know, the umbrella artistic freedom falls under)
@@hornylink "freedom of expression" (which isn't a thing-do you mean "freedom of speech"? Because that only applies to the government) doesn't mean people get to be assholes with no consequence.
Imaginé spend years of your life drawing and learning and have to read comments from people who dont know how to draw even a simple line telling you what u should draw bc moralism... These people sucks.
So, for ordinary folk, art is either realism either anime. No stylisation for them. If I draw feminine dudes then somebody will point it out and comment. I also once got my drawing "fixed" by my art teacher. She turned a male character into a girl, and when I asked why did she do it she went something like "oh bUt they LoOkEd fEmaLe tO mE" What a beautiful world we live in.
This just seems like textbook virtue-signaling. It's a very common trend to hate on sexily drawn females to make it seem like they're on much higher moral grounds than those who enjoy these types of artworks, then quickly denote those people as perverts and sexists.
Really weird, considering that leftism is often associated with sex positivity. So are we all just taking the conservative Christian route now? Everyone be sure to be covered head to toe, no skin shall show lest you tempt another with lust /s
I don’t think that’s what this is about at all. I think people are upset that Britney was drawn with a small waist to “make her look sexy.” It reenforces an unrealistic beauty standard for women. I do understand that the art is stylized, but the style seems to be based on harmful beauty standards. I think the main issue is that this a real person being drawn with a different body type to their own in order to fit a beauty standard. That being said, I don’t agree with sending hate to the artist; the problem seems to lie more-so with societal beauty standards than the artist themselves.
@@laura-en6ih Well its a cartoon doode. Its not supposed to be realistic and people have there own style. I don't think she needs to change her style because of some overly sensitive stans. Don't apply real life to art, its what leads to stupid "art fixing". In fact, and I don't want to make assumptions, but I am willing to bet that Brittany would love this doodle.
I mean this stems down to three things. People hate it because either they're not skilled enough to do it, because they don't match the body she drew, or because they literally have such good lives that they make issues up.
Honestly, I thought her drawing was very well stylized and now I wanna look into her work more because I want to study her style to adapt for my own art style. That kind of hate she got was undeserved and idiotic. Honestly, it makes me hate TikTok even more than I already do.
The thing I hate most in this world are people who get angry and offended on behalf of others- what I'm curious about is, if this drawing was shown to Britney in the flesh, would she herself care? I doubt it (although there's no real way of knowing lol) Are these people getting angry at the fact that it was Britney who was drawn in such a way- or just that this artists way of drawing her does not meet their ideals (I reckon the latter). either way they're all ridiculous smh, care about something that actually matters. like human trafficking, modern day slavery of disabled people in South Korea, deforestation, the prosecution of the LGBT in countries where its illegal to even exist, poaching of endangered species literally everywhere- I could go on and on. - but hey, getting mad about a drawing of a celebrity is more important :) sorry for the rant
Exactly, you are right. Theres people dying of hunger all around the world, and this teens complain about a drawing. But of course they always justify it as "but certain drawings are also a problem", i can see it as a problem, but its not an important one.
I agree but i don't think getting angry or caring for other is not the issue. That's empathy but the problem comes from people who use this "empathy" As an excuse. They aren't really angry for her, they are just using her to implement and justify their hate. Just wanted to mention the difference. Thank you.
12:35 I totally get what she’s saying about being aesthetically drawn to certain shapes. I do the same thing with hands, men’s body types, clothes, etc. Not saying it has nothing to do with skinny bias, but it is more disconnected from body image than non-artists might assume. It has more to do with shape language. Also it’s probably just fun to draw, and not that complicated?
Right? I tend to draw my own body shape a lot just because I've referenced myself for poses so often that it's just what's comfortable, but if I wanna branch out I like to just go more shapey and not think about the anatomy. I feel like non artists think that we're constantly thinking about what we're drawing and that we never just use art to get lost. Either way I liked her redraw
I think it's part of shape appeal. A big, medium and small shape goes well when placed together. And yes I agree, it's not that big of a deal, people just want a reason to be angry about and shit on people.
I agree but when it comes to a real life person, isn’t it odd to give them entirely different features? Like if for say someone was obese and an artist drew them stick skinny or if someone had a big nose and then was drawn with a tiny buttoned one? Or like in this case someone with a none defined rectangle shape was drawn as an idealised hourglass?
@@Oopsydaisie notice that she exaggerated the reference pose as it wasn’t that dynamic, therefore simplifying the torso into just a rectangle is going to erase the gesture of the figure, making it look too blocky (especially this one because the pose is pretty static), which of course can work if you are used to that art style, however this particular artist used fluid lines to exaggerate the gesture and simplify the connection between the ribcage and pelvis. And remember, a real human figure has rhythm and gestural lines everywhere. Of course, another reason is that hourglass figure looks more visually appealing. And about that, (artists making an obese person into a skinny one) it’s not something i will/want to defend.
@@karenemy1098 I think you can do that though without changing the refs features. Like in the ref video there are still many curves to the body. I don’t see how artists should limit themselves to one default body type of tiny waist and big hips with every piece especially when they’ve shown they can do others. Don’t think it’s the artists fault though, it’s just society today. Like you’ve said - where the past 10 or so years of beauty trends have imbedded into us that the hourglass is the ideal. Anyway, I love her art and I’m not too fussed.
I love the style she drew Britney, and I'm sure if Britney Spears sees it, she's going to love the drawing too. It sounds like the "Body Positive" group is attacking her.
What? But literally everyone is drawing everyone, so why...? Would I get cancelled if I drew a cartoon of a random celebrity? This world is getting really incomprehensible.
@@r.g.36 Unfortunately those idiots are the loudest and they also attack foreign artists whom I love and who has nothing to do with another nation's politics. Its sad, for a world that has freedom of expression why are some condemned to draw the way they draw. Its fine if its a hobby to just draw but my man to some this is their livelihood and can be hard when one is just starting out.
You kinda missed the point they arent angry because she drew a celebrity They are angry because of how the body type was badly represented Personally I don't really care in this case but I get where they come from
@@p0p525 honestly im not sure if its about having a "badly drawn body proportion" or that they rather just want to see anything but this type. This time their criticisms kind of dont make sense when it came to this specific illustration after all its not like she's drawn a very slim and curvy lizzo which is obviously not the right body type for that illustration and requires a new kind of composition.
I saw many comments there that dictate what and how artists should draw, and if you can’t draw the whole range of drawings, then you’re a bad or lazy artist… Then I’m sure most of these bad commenters are not even an artist themselves. Because when you have spent countless hours of drawing, you will figure out your preferences, what you like to draw, what you don’t find enjoy to draw. What your art style. Your strength. Your weakness. Even the most professional illustrators are not jack of all trades. They have their own thing. And just because you’re good at your thing and you bad at other things doesn’t mean that you’re a bad artist.
They just want to have jack of all trades , master of none. Heck the artist who designed chun-li from street fighter said he has a hard time drawing figure facing the left. Some artists are known for only drawing women, or only men too. Hah, people like this are the ones who think drawing is easy, maybe they should start drawing what they think should be drawn then maybe they won't need to force others to abide to their wrapped standards.
On the topic of people who aren’t artist telling artists what to do: I hate it when people go into comment sections and say “oh my gash, you are SooOO talented! Like, I can’t even draw a circle” And they start acting like art is impossible and only few “chosen ones” can be good at it. It makes me SCREAM in my head “JUST FREAKING PRACTICE ITS NOT THAT HARD!!!” It always seems to be THAT kind of compliment, it’s never “wow the colors are really pretty, wow I love the ways the eyes look” it’s always “ UGH your sooo talented! I can’t even do that!” It gets on my nerves I know this is unrelated to the video but I’ve been wanting to bring this up for a while.
@@stefanijovita1640 nowadays there's too much "pressure" on being politically "correct". What if those who only draw one gender are suddenly called sexists but deep down they just enjoy drawing them. Man I miss the days where the artists are not attacked as a "person".
In CSP there is an option in brush settings, to draw lines more on point, removing the noise made by shaking hands and less precise strokes. I forgot the name, but it really speeds up drawing a clean lineart. I suppose every other popular program has something like this nowadays.
People need to chill. It's just a stylized fan inspired drawing. It's literally not hurting anyone. If she was drawing realism, then yes, the drawing would be best by being proportionally matched to Britney. It's not though, it's stylized and fun and it's perfectly okay.
I personally support the idea that diversity in body type is good and necessary. (And sometimes art styles like the bruce timm style with very skinny waists annoy me tbh) but this is a conversation we need to be having about social trends *in general*. Targeting specific artists for harassment is cruel and pointless.
I mean it depends on the work. You don't need to have a ton of diverse body types in every work. As an example, if I'm drawing superhero comics about people who spend their time training and fighting they should probably all be pretty muscular, or at least a minimum level of fit. If I'm drawing a futuristic society like the one in WALL-E then everyone should probably look overweight. If I'm just drawing for myself, I'll draw what I PERSONALLY find visually appealing. It will tend towards an idealized body type. The fact that most people draw this is a reflection of what most people find visually appealing, it isn't to be exclusionary. There are artists out there who only draw heavier bodies, and that's totally fine. They like the aesthetic. If you let people draw what they want and enjoy you may not see a ton of diversity, but that's ok! There will always be people who do enjoy other body types, so follow the artists who draw in styles that appeal to you!
I can't fucking believe things like this. What if I uploaded one of my drawings one day and instead of the support I need to keep pushing forward I'm met with negativity? Drawing is not easy and each piece you make takes a lot of time, so having people assume things about you and your work and discouraging you is just so unfair and shattering. Shame on them. Anyone who's trying to tell you what not to do while drawing should not be allowed around artists. The entire point is to be creative, you can literally do whatever you want.
These people don't know anything about character design. Look at Disney, Pixar, any of these cartoons you see on tv. The characters are all stylized and often have very exaggerated features. The point on Lizzo is a great one. This is a good picture, and there isn't anytihng disrespectful about it. All of the fundamentals are spot on: composition, line work, color palette, shading, and even the stylized proportions are done well. You aren't doing anything wrong or bad. Keep doing you. Don't stop making art and don't change for anyone else. This was meant to be a fun drawing,, and the picture certainly looks fun and lively. :)
So, just because the market created a sexist "ideal body type" - wich changed over time, btw - nobody can draw using some characteristics that "belongs" to that? In order to beat an "evil" pattern established we need to create another and punish the person that doesn't follow this new one like a jihadist? Sexism doesn't own things, it uses them. Sexy characters are sexy characters, is a concept, not a sexism's tool, the problem is in the perception of who sees it. If a sexy character "belongs" to sexism, then it should be banned, but then, sex should be banned from everywhere. Sex is part of life, the problem is not representing it, is not drawing sexy things, the problem is in the sexist mindset. If didn't exist sexist people, no one would have any problem with that drawing. So, to "fight" against sexism wouldn't be better to educate people about it? 'cause sexy things, unique artstyles, provocative drawings, exagerated figures, etc. can exist in a feminist world, the only difference would be that everybody would understand that it's not reallity and nobody should strive to achieve that kind of body, that it is just a stylized drawing. The world is not manichean, it is way more complex than that and art can be a lot of things at the same time, depends on the context and the receiver values. It's not like "this is sexist" and "this is ok", if it was: who decides these things? If people understand better equality and respect, the unnecessary sensualization will be less used to sell things, but in art, there is no such a thing, art is necessary and unnecessary, is just self expression, no one really needs it to stay alive, but is essencial to live. Now, a person that clearly already cares about it can be judging herself everytime she starts drawing, limiting her creativity, and, at the same time, giving bad example to everybody that thinks that representation, and things like that, is stupid and everyone who cares about it is radical that doesn't accept a different point of view... way to go to make the world a better place e more acceptable to diversity.
@@stevelandon7032 interesting question, but we need to first make sure we are talking about the same aspect, concept and definition. If we are talking about a non realistic drawing, then organs may not be a concern to the composition. It's about colors, shapes, lines, shadows, emotions, etc. all things inherent to humans, but in a unique way different from reality. If we are talking about body itself, then we know this type of body just doesn't exist in the real world. If we transpose realistic elements to where it doesn't belong then a lot of type of art shouldn't exist. Picasso, Salvador Dali, Tarcila do Amaral, Fernando Botero, Basquiat, Edvard Munch and a lot others shouldn't be allowed to do what they did. If we transpose art to real life, then it's a real problem 'cause it would be a delusion. Industry doesn't own any body type or artstyle, it just misused to sell things and to spread it's values. Like swastika, the symbol itself is ancient, with a lot of different meanings, many conected to religion and positive things and it's still used in some cultures as a symbol of good luck and prosperity. Nazism doesn't own the symbol, just appropriated it in a bad way.
@@rsydw don't respond to that person, theyre just full of hatred and will never understand even if someone tell them a very detailed and real facts, they are denial and have a very big ego, thanks for the explanation btw 🥰 it is a very good perspective, non biased opinion❤️
People chase artists with pitchforks for drawing sexy girls but never complain about real life influencers and lifestyle gurus promoting an 'idealized' body image They're cowards, and artists are in the bottom of the foodchain in social media thus easier to target
Yeah... non-artists forget that stylization is a thing. I'm all for body positivity and diversity in art, I love and support it, but people need to chill out. Seriously.
People are frustrated with themselves. tik tok is an unregulated fighting pit. you'll never be able to please everyone. try not to take things personal. tax the rich. hope everyone has a nice day and feels better soon, we love you. btw thanks for posting, ethan.
When people forget that drawing is about interpretation of form. This allows artists to have their own style. Like i always say to my child if you want picture perfect, take a photograph
this whole thing is a debate on beauty standards and how people take "advantage" of these beauty standards in art. I get the argument that drawing only pretty features or bodies only reinforces that standard of beauty, but can you really blame the artist for making a piece that is appealing to look at? If you gotta be mad at something be mad at people claiming their photoshopped pictures are "real" and unedited instead of going after illustrators who make obviously stylized drawings
Lack of representation? Man, if we were in 1800 I would believe you, but we are in 2021and fortunately there's a lot more representation and voices being heard. If you want to represent cool, if you don't it's also cool, while you are having fun and not harming anyone :D
Facts! And people are masking their meaningless hate as “criticism.” If they want there to be more art of different body types (or genders, races, etc), they can make it themselves instead of forcing other people to change their art (and besides that, there are already plenty of artists who draw all sorts of different subjects in all sorts of different styles). It’s very toxic of these people to be singling someone out for not making art the specific way they want them to.
"Show body type variety, BUT NOT THAT BODY TYPE RGHHHH!!!" Whatever, this shit's silly. A lot of these guys are offering up fake criticism, it has nothing to do with how well she's drawing and everything to do with what they want her to draw. Variety in characters is great and all, and over a huge project it becomes more valuable but for a single character within a selection of 3 tiktoks without any kind of narrative connection it doesn't matter for shit.
There´s just people that just crave drama. I know it can be hard to ignore them because of how direct they´re comments are. I hope you can put it behind and keep doing art YOU like just the way YOU want to do it.
I went through Jackie's entire Instagram for context. Her portraits of women seem to depict a similar body type, though I noticed that some of her older artwork (I think it was most noticeable around 2017) depicts a lot of different body types and it looked phenomenal! The chubby mermaid drawing is one of my favorite pieces of hers. It's natural for artists to find a specific niche and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. Jackie is free to draw what she likes. Personally, it'd be nice to see her experiment more with her artwork, but she's under no obligation to. This is all only based on artwork she's publicly shown; her personal drawings could be more varied for all I know (though she's under no obligation to share those pieces). Side Note: I recognize Jackie's "funny nose" comic and I had no idea she was the same person who drew this piece!
Okay? She doesn’t have to do anything. How about YOU learn to draw? Draw all the fat mermaids you want. Draw the body types you want to see more of, stop trying to influence actual artists to draw what others want.
@@blackbat908 Also, the second paragraph goes on about how Jackie is free to draw whatever she likes and how it's natural for artists to find a specific niche. Idk why you're getting so defensive.
No ! Do not let “people” control your artistic ability. She is sexy with pretty lines and curves. Is there a place to include all body types yes! Don’t shame expression or feel regret on your ideas. “People” need to look at themselves and ask why are YOU offended by this piece! I love it great job!!!
How did we end up bashing people for harmless artwork? The audacity of some people -.- Also that picture is so beautiful, she didn't deserve the hate she got. My heart goes out for her 💕
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All art doesn’t have to be realistic. I honestly feel like most people who says “it’s not realistic” to art does not draw themselves
tell that to Picasso , I even think that people didn't want to be portrayed by him XD
@@emila732 ?
@@portgasdann3389 just a joke :D just try to imagine how hard must have it been for Picasso when he decided to paint the way he did
@@emila732 Picasso actually was also pretty good at realistic work
For real tho. Like damn Karen, it's not meant to be realistic, that's why she also has huge eyes
It’s always people who don’t draw giving “art advice”
fr lmao like why don't THEY go and draw her body if they wanna see it so bad
@@bebob415 LOL yes
So basically people who watch movies and do not direct can't give their opinions?
@@m.a.i5678 theres a difference between having an opinion and attacking an artist who is drawing something for THEIR own pleasure in THEIR own style.
@@bebob415 yes i do agree with you on that point for sure, but your original comment stated otherwise so sorry if i caused any wrong ideas XD
"Drawings of a real person has to be proportional to their body type."
Guess we gotta square up with Picasso now
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Absolutely 😤 like triangles and squares and shit? Ah hell nah that’s not accurate 😩😡🤪
we need to square up with picasso but not bc of that reason lol
i mean a vast majority of artists ate picasso for various reasons ranging from not liking the art itself to the fact he had assulted multiple women both physically and sexualy and refused to portray the people he painted in his artwork as their true selves and instead decided to make it depressing for no fucking reason.
@@cheesevinoandwine4560 Oh boy Picasso did something bad now?
Thanks for chatting with me, Ethan! And thanks everyone in the comments for all your support!
Your art is godly. Don't worry about those comments ^^)b
Hi. A fellow artist here, please know, you are doing great, dont back down for them, it is your art, its your choice!!!!You draw how you choose to do, you are not raising a nation, most of them are sick, sad ignorant people, it their job to hop everywhere to hate on people. It is not about body positivity, it is art its called drawing in different style! You are doing nothing wrong, I am repeating don't change for them. My god! Girl you rock, please know that. 💜You can do what you want without catering to their taste or changing!Don't stop for anyone!!!💜 they have no rights or a say in your work!!
Don't let these haters take you down. I just looked at your works and I'm amazed. Love your artstyle! You're a great artist, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
Screw the haters, every artist already has their own self doubts, take a page from Eminem and just let them be mad and keep doing your thing.
Your art is great alright 👉🏽
Don't let the negativity affect you
I could only wish to have such a clean style
“how does the snake feel about its body-“
“*their body”
ethan says no to the objectification of snakes, we respect
not only about snake body, but the real snake was pulled out on the stage with Britney, animal cruelty alert ! :D
@@emila732 the snake was fine. it’s alright to hold snakes, of course, and she held the snake in a good way(supporting the entire body). i’ve seen the video, and reading the body language, the snake was clearly fine. didn’t look super stressed, and was even handled extremely well when given to britney.
@@catsareawesome4124 yay for snakey! :D
And the snake was so cute in that photo. It's just a very healthy looking young burm
@@catsareawesome4124 I was joking but at some point I still don't understand the need to use animals on stage , performances ? Do they really need that? in the end even if he is not stressed , does he really want it? :D maybe he prefer other job? XD
Artists: *draws stylized picture*
People: "omg it's not realistic!"
🙃 you don't say
I saw this work of art, didn't look at the comments, and didn't think much of it. I had no idea this happened
Same actually
Oh to be mentally free. I pray this generation teaches their children to ignore comments that don’t encourage productive dialogue.
Same.
@@JadetheGoober Yeahhh,, I'm starting to learn ignore shet too... It's so tiring seeing argument again n again
@@JadetheGoober unfortunately social media is designed to encourage outrage
Everything about that image is heavily stylized, including color! Interesting how there don't seem to be people upset over the exaggerated color palette 🤔
Is almost like it is a drawing and not a real person
right they dont say anything about her eye hands etc i think they should be ignored when they over reacted nobody is safe everything is arbitrary
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Oh my god i havent seen u since forever lol
Oh no… if your character is human YOU WILL get backlash for exaggerating color
People act like they’ve never watched a cartoon?? One of the main lessons in character design is to EXAGGERATE features in order to make a character look more interesting. This whole thing is bananas
I'm not defending the criticism, but Brittney's waist doesn't go in at all. If she wanted to exaggerate Britney's body she should have drawn a rectangle.
@@terenarosa4790 That’s not her style though. Look at the artist’s other works and you will quickly become familiar with their language. They honed their technique by drawing elongated bodies with exaggerated proportions.
@@terenarosa4790 that's not exageration then...
@@black_thunder2159 she's not an actual rectangle so yes it is.
@@terenarosa4790 is she now?
what "exageration" do u want?
sexy? attractive? more female? or blocky?
sure, its subjective.
maybe u love rectangular girls idk.
but i will assume average audience will agree that curvy is really the way to portray great "female" postures.
and i might have no right to say that cuz i dont even know how "should have drawn a rectangle" looks.
maybe u can draw that, put it in imgur or smth, post the link here, and let everyone have a look at what your definition of Britney's exaggerated body.
These days whenever someone says "do you think they're overreacting?" The answer is usually yes
I wish people would just stay out of comment sections
drama addiction
yeah it really is
Context always matters
Haters usually don't even care that much, they're just bored
The artist was clearly not being malicious. It’s obviously a very stylized, fun drawing, meant to honor Britney. That’s the thing that gets me. These people just want to bully her into drawing how they want her to. Well guess what, you want a realistic britney? Put in years of work and draw her yourself.
GET THIS TO THE TOP.
Exactly. All these children crying about representation. I dont know what is stopping all those 'as an artist' people from making their own art to tackle the under representation issue? They Instead choose to shame other artists for not fitting their own personal values. Go out there and bring the change yourself instead of bringing other people down.
Also that one comment saying something along the lines of of "not rocket science to draw a straight line". Lmfao. Id love to see you try dude.
@@-LTUIiiin Yea, they are literal children too. I'm 25 and ain't NOBODY my age gonna comment this kind of bullshit on a benign ass instagram post. The sensitivity is off the fucking scales, I'm actually fucking triggered at the fact these kids are mad at her for not promoting "diversity" at every possible opportunity.
They could also pay her to draw Britney the way they want to, like a comission or something.
If they want realism, they can just look at the photograph.
The problem with TikTok is that everyone thinks they're professionals.
This a problem from the internet.
Main reason why I uninstalled tiktok is that people create stupid petty and useless problems and drama like this. It's not the entirety of tiktok but from my expeience using the app, it's all I've seen, drama here, drama there, it's a never ending cycle of toxicity and the fact people have the audacity to 'call out an artist for drawing a really thin waist' ??? Do people just have a huge ego nowadays? Geez..
I think this is a problem with the "art community" in general. maybe it's just me but it always seems to attract the most pretentious irrational people
@@shgds sometimes I feel like that but I have seen some artists that are not flat out jerks... its just the society we have become :'))
And then they're 13yo who started drawing digitally one year ago (making mha fanarts) and can't even name art styles other than anime, cartoon and realism
Geez she’s totally questioning her own interests now, which stinks. Ethan’s point about some people having too much time on their hands is so true
Well no shit, because instead of practicing a craft and getting good, theyre spending their hours being critical of other people. Thats what happens when you're a full-time Twitter goblin.
Well if her entire purpose crumbled because of a few hate comments on a drawing then sadly her will for her progress just wasn't good enough
@@h3rpad3rpacifilis people literally go trough a living hell and still pursue their careers to the very end while you people cry over a few comments on social media and ignore all the compliments. Do you draw for yourself or to satisfy strangers ? That is your choice and it's also a choice to read hate.comments and offended by it
It's kind of funny that a lot of the commenters leaving hate on this video have brand new accounts or are primarily spam/advertising
skellyaart Instagram - I am the truth. I have never heard a much more ignorant comment, thats so insensitive tf😭 while you may say that its about the "will" of an artist to pursue what they want, you can't blame them when all the hate starts taking a toll on their mental health. Some people would be extremely passionate about something but start to question and ultimately stop their love for something because people wasn't supportive nor accepting of it.
Some have different reasons when they started pursuing arts, whether it be for compliments, for their own satisfaction, a required skill,etc.. if they continue to receive negative response to whatever they do, they will start to lose interest or lose confidence. This just doesn't apply to artist, this applies to all people pursuing a career or field.
I love how they're mad at how the body isn't "realistic" but the everything else is also stylized, almost like it's all INTENTIONALLY stylized by the artist, idk just saying
You’re right, I mean the fact that she has no nose bridge is also pretty annoying
(also kind of a dig at samdoesart)
but no amount of colour stylization or applying proportional changes or line weight variation to someone’s eyes deletes their organs ^^
@@stevelandon7032 okay what the heck are you trying to say here
"Also a dig of sam does art"
????
You think sam is the only one that has that disney styled proportions lmao
@@stevelandon7032 sam stylises his characters with knowledge of an actual face and anatomy? I do not understand the point you are trying to make as stylisation does not delete someone's organs and is not a bad thing either?
@@stevelandon7032 what
I feel for this artist. She's trying to rationalize the irrational. She's trying to find reason where there is none. She is clearly talented. I hate that this made her question herself.
honestly, watching her interview is so painful because she's just trying to enjoy herself in her spare time
@@bluwuboi Yeah, agreed
She read the comments, which was the first mistake she made.
fr
i love one comment which was like "you seem unable to branch out as an artist" and when someone replied with "She's a professional character designer" the commenter went "I am turning 18 in nov and i've been perusing art as a career for 4 years". The two aren't even on the same level lmao
Gosh its almost as if its a CARTOONISH ART STYLE
Please stop giving me mean comments. My mother reads the comments I get and she cries a lot because of it. Please be nice, dear zack
@@AxxLAfriku no
Yeah, as if people were allowed to STYLIZE their art
@@AxxLAfriku lmao no
@@AxxLAfriku I hate how you’re everywhere 💀
I love that the top comment is, "Part of being an artist is receiving criticism. If you like it great. But everyone else is allowed to say they don't. That's how artist grows."
I see this opinion thrown around so much and it's extremely misleading. Uninvited criticism, vitriol, and purposefully ignoring the intent of the art doesn't help anyone to grow. You don't go to art school and have your soul absolutely crushed on a daily basis by your teachers. If you want to 'help artists grow' then you need to provide constructive feedback WITHOUT the unnecessary childish drama. There's a difference between being blunt and just being an asshole.
There is nothing wrong with this art. The artist clearly achieved the cartoony seductive feeling that was intended. It was never meant to be a one-to-one with the reference image. (Also, I'm a bit jealous of that linework)
THISSSSS! People try to pass their asshole comments for “constructive criticism” … they don’t know what constructive actually means 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Part of being a critic is also receiving criticism.
The comment's not wrong. Everyone is allowed to say they don't like it. And I'm allowed to not give a shit.
@@user-mz1fk4yb1o That part of the comment might not technically be wrong but the 'that's how artist grows' part is (both grammatically and in practice).
i am definitely taking screenshot of this comment!! ive seen so many people who use critism as an excuse to bash on others, using rude language and even personally attacking artists for that. thank you for your opinion
Why do they assume she cant do other body types because of the stylization of one art piece? I like the piece, it reminds me of shows like winx club. A lot of these performative woke kids are very uneducated about stylization. A lot of them would probably give a fat woman an obligatory hourglass shape with a perfectly shaped belly themselves. If the artist is reading this, dont let them get to you! Tiktok kids can be very toxic, they are immature and dont know what theyre actually talking about. Dont let them get to you! ♥️
exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Just because someone CHOOSES to draw a certain body type/style doesn't mean they CAN'T draw differently.
Omg thank you, I knew her style reminded me of something--the Winx Club!
Or Kim Possible..
Omg I felt that the style has a little similarities with Winx club omg now I have no doubt it was
@@veracity- lol
This poor girl got hate because people don’t understand what a caricature (edit: since I’m still getting comments about my choice of word for this image, I will from now on call every illustration I see a doodle. A good ol doodle. Damn this doodle sure looks nice) is. 😑 Well she got a new fan out of this, I can’t wait to see more of her beautiful art!
417 likes and no replies, bruh.
At least Ethan is now her fan so she got that going for her, which is nice.
Imagine how this generation will react when they get their picture drawn at the fair ooof
Welcome to the internet
@@blindeyes9385 CANCEL THE FAAAAAIIIIIR
@@blindeyes9385 y'all have it easy when. I get daily hate for simply drawing anime girls as a living
👏 STYLIZED 👏 ART 👏 IS 👏 NOT 👏 SUPPOSED 👏 TO 👏 BE 👏 REALISTIC 👏
Youd think people would know that
It's a lovely drawing. It's stylized and represents Brittney's essence at her core in her own body. This is why I block people that love to cause drama for no reason.
Block, stock and barrel.
@@Hibernial Yes yes.
I like how their saying “every artist needs to be criticized” or some other bs like if this this is CLEARLY art that is for FUN and the artist themselves doesn’t specifically ask for criticism, there is no reason. I don’t actively look for criticism, let alone random people from the internet, to improve my art because it’s a hobby. And even if some artist were making money from it, good for them, people like their art enough to buy it.
Agreed. Unsolicited criticism is like 👁👄👁…bruh, it’s fanart. Chill
People that think their criticism is sent from god are the worst in drawings and wants to say bs about stuff they don't know. I draw and i can say i learnt with time how to say to people to fuck off
It's a common toxic behavior in every art community. Some people just wanna feel superior to others just because they wanna compensate for their lack of talent or skill 😑
i feel like it's such a karen move, it's like those karens that criticise retail workers thinking they're imparting their wisdom when really they can fuck off and let people do their job
yeah
those guys never heard of unsolicited criticism
Not every artist should be a social warrior and not every work of art should be a statement piece to further every social justice movement all the time. It's an amazing thing to demand diversity on popular media, but artist posting their free time work should not be scrutinized with the same standards.
Yeah, I don't personally like the style of the piece. But when it comes to the matter of critiquing the damaging abundance of super-thin and hourglass women in media and cartoons, and a single artist drawing a stylized fan piece of Brittney, there's a big difference. She shouldn't of gotten the heat she did.
It's weird how most of the time it's the _female_ artists who are expected to be perfect and socially aware of everything all the time, isn't it? (Not all the time but a disproportionate amount) 😏🤔
@@errortryagainlater4240 that darn patriarchy is at it again.
"not every work of art should be a statement piece to further every social justice movement all the time. It's an amazing thing to demand diversity on popular media, "
Are you saying that people can't draw a diverse range of people without it being a "statement piece"
@@reeree3032 you gotta work on your reading comprehension skills.
Bruh, someone in the comments tried to flex that they're "18 and pursuing an art career". Not only did they prove they knew nothing about character design and exaggeration, but they just started off their career journey by slandering an industry professional.
THIS
A quick story: I was trying to figure out how to draw women better, so I go to Jazza's tutorial, and the amount of hate comments I see for him only drawing the 'ideal' body type is just absurd. What's stupider is he even mentions a completely separate video he has that helps drawing people of all body types. I go over to the drawing tutorial for a male body, and the drawing is of a fairly athletic, muscly guy. No hate comments whatsoever
I don't think people even want to support gender equality anymore, I think they just want to pretend to so they can seem like a good person
Honestly, these days people on internet just care about spreading hate, they just don't admit it
Theres a reason superheroes are jacked, Greco-Roman statues are toned and athletes are well... Athletic. These are the body types we find the most desirable and aesthetically pleasing to look at. And i wish these kids had the same fire for their juiced and plastic peers as they do for a fucking creative expression.
@@NBDYSPCL Exactly, super heros are the new contemporary Greek pantheon (if you call over half a century of super hero continuity contemporary).
Yes Exactly , the act of pretending to support to paint a good self image is called virtue signaling.
I feel sorry for Jazza, he's always so kindhearted and creative. One time I got annoyed too, lately I've been sharing my artworks of fairies on Twitter and some people told me I'm racist, because I didn't draw dark skinned characters. I'm just bad at shading in general and have no underlying intentions whatsoever. 😅
I recently went through something similar. A few weeks ago, my four best friends (two were artists) decided to drop me because of my anime styled, unrealistic artwork. I draw sexy anime girls, yes, but I've always made sure to include both body type and race diversity in my art. Plenty of plus sized girls on my page and I take pride in it, and enjoy drawing them. Still, they called my art "misogynistic and unethical", and idk, I feel like a lot of people just don't understand stylization. Art doesn't have to be photorealistic. I feel like this shitty mentality is getting more popular and I feel like it's going in completely the wrong direction.
that's a shitty reason to stop being friends with someone
Look at it this way.
They're high on their own farts and you dodged a bullet, now you're free to get friends who aren't shallow virtue signalers.
I'm going to copy and paste a comment I left elsewhere, because I think this is something more people need to hear. This is something taught to me in my upper years of psychology education. I hope this helps you to not overthink or doubt your art too much!
"Drawing her this way isn't about Western cultural issues at all. This is an ignorant way to view the situation. Let me explain.
This artist clearly explained that she tried to exaggerate her secs appeal, which Britney was known for. So, she made her have a narrow waist and curvy hips.
Now, in every culture on earth, men are attracted to a certain waist-to-hip ratio, where the waist is quite small compared to the hips. When something is a cultural universal, this means we know it must be evolutionary, not culturally-bound. There is an ideal waist-to-hip ratio because humans (particularly men) evolved to have visual cues to fertility. You can easily search this up if you don't want to take my word for it.
So to exaggerate Britney's secs appeal, the artist would not draw her as a square. Women also intuitively understand waist-to-hip ratio and what signifies in the human psyche. She is a good artist BECAUSE she understands hpw to speak to the human psyche.
Men liking that body type, women drawing that body type to convey attractiveness... there's nothing wrong with it. It's not "the patriarchy", unless every cultural and our very minds are "the patriarchy". There is nothing we need to overcome here. Thinking otherwise is to despise what it means to be human."
Agreed. Also, exaggerated hourglass figures are simply fun to draw. If she were the main character of a children’s show it wouldn’t be appropriate, but this is just a fun drawing.
Remember this. “How can you know you’re going in the right direction unless you encounter enemies along the way?”
Hopefully you saw the VALUE in the encounter. People try to make you feel bad so that you cant see how far your talents will take you. They CAN see it but dont want you too. Your art will go further than theirs AND you will retain your individuality at the end. Blessings to you and I encourage you to continue. Dont stop.
“I started a Tiktok, I thought it would be fun”. Famous last words. RIP
It's funny how it seems like NSFW art communities are much more wholesome and welcoming than any other art community
It's almost as if people who try to adhere to a "correct" and "good" personality tend to be rotten on the inside, whereas the people who act with honesty have more depth because they understand themselves better than the people bottling everything up
I feel like when it comes to the General art community there's tons of people who are assholes but when it comes to NSFW art communities most people are pretty chill but the bad people are REALLY bad
@@SPOOPINATURAL huh, that's actually interesting point of view. As well as the fact that probably tiktok have most of it's user base from kids.
@@SPOOPINATURAL you're actually making some sense here..
@@sarraounia6279 hm.. I don't really understand what you're talking about. Can you elaborate?
"It's not a realistic portrayal!"
welp guess every single caricature artist in existence needs canceling
I think people are trying so hard to be good people and be 100% correct all the time they’re becoming the people they hate by attacking people
I find that no matter what your opinion is if you throw around hate and contention then you are wrong. The truth is always somewhere in the middle and surrounded by agreeing to disagree. Both sides have haters but people keep pointer their fingers at the other side saying they're the haters not realizing they're being hypocrites.
Not to mention, you're more likely to catch flies with honey than vinegar. Have a peaceful conversation about topics can lead to connection and a change of opinions. We cannot fight hate with more hate, people just put up walls.
yeah that's definitely present in a small part of our community of progressives (our referring to me and mine IDK about you) I get it, I was a passionate teenager once too, but twitter hadn't trained us to howl at the moon yet so my beef with unrealistic character bodies and stuff was done via forum posts so way more time to think things through. (doesn't mean I was always perfectly nice or always right) definitely throttled the hatred spigot. Doesn't help that America and the south in particular (fuck georgia, it sucks here) train people to go for perfection at any cost, so when those people finally learn about not shitting on minorities they attempt perfect records and no matter who you are or what you're doing trying to be perfect or enforce perfect will make you toixc, politics, cooking, hugs, doesn't matter, chasing perfect will hurt you and others.
That said I saw this before watching the video and it's been playing this entire time and a soundbite caught my attention "they're not trying to make anything better they're just sowing hate" is something that is so incorrect it hurts my soul. Doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is something that has to be called out and corrected because it'll hurt people but doing the wrong things doesn't mean your reasons are wrong or invalid. Like this whole thing might be a nontroversy (I'm not super educated on the particular subject matter, and don't see anything weird about the art myself) but the more this video goes on the more I'm hearing a message along the lines of "these people's criticisms are wrong (which is debatable cause that's subjective, but in this case I agree with this premise) coma, there's nothing wrong with female representation in media" it's like B does not follow from A at all, in fact B is an important piece of why A is an issue. oppression either breaks someone (this is about society at large and in no way talks about the two people in this video) or inflames their passion to fight it. you're not gonna hear from the broken, and the fighters that aren't balls of rage and bitterness (a state I call half-broken, from personal experience) aren't really spending their time on twitter. *shrug* hope that makes sense, which I had more than an explanation of the what and why I think is going on, like how to stop the people with good hearts from being toxic lunatics on twitter. Unfortunately the only way I've ever managed to reason with someone like that (a homophobe in this case) it was one on one personal discourse, and twitter basically makes that impossible, cause it doesn't generate traffic that can be sold for ads.
@@hornylink One on one is definitely better, because you can actually talk to someone and understand their perspective. Hate just creates more hate, but when you can talk with respect for one another goos things happen.
But on the point of perfection, because I have some things I've learned over the years. I grew up in Washington though, so a very different culture. But it all stems from the translation of the Bible and how Christ commands us to be "perfect." But a more accurate translation is whole, and then people's reaction is "oh, so perfect means whole." 🤦 No. Perfect, at least the way we use it is inaccurate and impossible, I would say that not even God is perfect because perfection is stupid. Look at nature, some of the most beautiful things are broken of imperfect and we shouldn't change them for the world. We are also all different and unique, how can you measure perfection when we are all different and have a different potential? But we do each have great potential to continuously become better at the things we do, forever, but if we are always learning and improving perfect does not exist and is stupid to look for. But we are creatures of growth and seek to learn and improve, that is good and healthy. For example, in art, what does perfect even mean? That your art looks exactly like reality? Obviously, no. So now I like to say I'm working towards my potential, still doesn't embody what I'm getting at, but it's closer and more personal. It also depends on your self worth, but knowing that everyone has unlimited potential then this perspective could help your self worth. Trying to be perfect has always bugged me and is pretty toxic, so I just wanted to share my experience with it as well. Hope that helped and made sense...
@@ThatOneLadyOverHere it made sense, and I appreciate the effort, not religious/christian though so it doesn't really resonate with me. again I can tell you're trying to help though so I appreciate that.
Yep. They've become the exact same purity-obsessed fundies that they hated as kids. They're just using slightly different language.
One of the things that bother me the most about this situation is the amount of people telling her that she should handle criticism if she is an artist when most of the critics weren't actually helpful, most can't really tell the difference between a stylized body and only drawing one body type.
@.ReapingSkeletons. true but drawing a fanart of a real living person and changing their body type because it’s the only one you can do is still weirdo behavior
@@sayaalicious9146 its stylized. stop putting false implications on the artist as if she fr sat there thinking "i am now going to change the body type of this person on purpose." do you draw? its not easy.
The whole argument has no sense… She can draw whatever she wants and how she wants (on her own social media), everyone in the comments nowadays has become an “expert”. Criticising is always easy, try drawing it yourself
Her lineart and shading is so on point. How can anyone crap on it this hard.
‘Dem lines…. 😍
That "anyone" are probably people who don't know the depth, challenges, and hardships every artists go through just to get good or even decent in art.
The people who criticize her are most likely not artist or don't have experience to judge constructively lol. They judge solely based on ego I feel
Why always there must be mean people who think they are ALWAYS right???😭
Cuz people are petty
damn im getting a deja vu from tumblr days when people would send death threats to an artist who dared to draw exaggerated body types and accusing them of drawing "unrealisitic" bodies without knowing that stylization is a thing. the only thing thats missing is for other people to "fix" her work
The zami/zambi drawing of rose quartz drama but it gets escalated as the years went by 🥶
Yes, social justice warriors emigrated from tumblr to twitter, insta etc. and they keep telling younger generation that they have to fight for rights online so we get the current mess of entitled 14yo children, who never faced a problem in their entire lives, going around the internet looking to be offended and correct other people who dare to not propagate their "world view".
@@Progeusz Seeing the current state of TikTok is concerning. It's like Tumblr in its heyday, but ramped up to 11. If you want to find the most ridiculous gatekeepy stuff, that's the place to look.
I'm so confused. Is art not a skill that literally anybody with hands can learn? Why are people expecting others to represent THEM. it is not an artists job to represent you or your body, nor is it their job to change their artistic vision because YOU dont like it. They draw what THEY want. If you want representation, then youre more than welcome to put in the years of hard work and dedication to achieve it. There is no fucking reason why any artist should have to represent anybody. Learn the skill, learn to draw so that YOU can get that representation. the entitlement of people on the internet is completely ridiculous.
For real.
thank you, Sonic, for teaching people to do right things
Jackie: *is a professional*
Haters: “u did that wrong how could u”
Activism becomes popular culture in every generation, I'm not suprised by the reaction. Unfortunately this time it seems, there is more time spent looking for a fight, then actually solving a real problem.
I couldn't agree more. This comment needed more likes. It's a gem because it's true.
wise words here
agreed. like go out and talk to your neighbors. Start a food not bombs chapter. Get involved with your local BLM chapter. These online conversations get performative very quickly and comes off more as a "gotcha" than legitimate concern for the topic.
You have summed up every "movement" since 2016+.👍
@@TheCatsMe00w B-L-M is Bs Marxism(same stuff they did in the 1920s America, using the exact same buzzwords). They just use people. It's one of the reasons they kill3d secorcia Turner and didn't care and why the co founder bought multiple mansions and then handed the "mission" over.
As an artist/freelancer, I, too, get annoyed at trends, "influencer" faces, certain body types, and certain things artist's do or don't do, but I just don't follow that artist or scroll past.
There's an artist I recently came across where 99% of their work is extremely symmetrical, perfectly smooth, big lipped, tiny chin, "model" esque faced women portraits. Their skill and their ability to render is great. Their creativity and subject choice, I find very boring. But it is not my job to care so much that I feel entitled to bitch about it on their platforms in front of their followers, patrons, or clients. All that would do is make me look like an ass, waste their time, and negative feedback hardly ever warrants improvement- especially if the criticized don't see their "flaws" as flaws (you know, because art is subjective).
There's certainly some big names that I stopped following due to lack of expanding their subjects or their switch from SFW to NSFW (and I follow artist's who do both, but one in particular no longer does SFW at all. I missed their old art, so I stopped following them). I'd rather unfollow one to follow another. It's my right to do so just as it's the artist's right to express themselves the way they want to.
Where can I see your art?
@@blackbat908 my UA-cam handle is the same on twitter, DA, and Instagram. I draw fantasy art and some TF art (not everyone's cup of tea). Mostly human/humanoid, 90% sfw content. :)
"Art is pain, and a lil' pain never hurt anybody." Got that "cry in the dojo, laugh in the battlefield" vibe.
You added no value other than taking quotes and adding them together in hopes to get some likes
@@aaaaaaaaa6417 my negativity was value atleast I came up with the thought instead of copying quotes. I missed the funny part but please enlighten me more about this funny joke that made you jiggle. The standards for comedy has dropped down so low it seems. You can't defend stupidity no matter how badly you try to paint me as you will fail
@@aaaaaaaaa6417 dont talk to skellia, that account its a frecuent attention seeker in this Channel
Wow never heard that quote before. cool
Never heard that quote, it's pretty cool and also accurate.
Jackie - ignore the haters. You’re great, your art is great, and that’s the end of the story.
Oh my god! Its Kyle T. Webster! Big fan.
This this this.
@@bingobunny7862 Thank you - very kind!
People fail to realize that an artist has the right to draw whatever tf they want just because you draw a certain way doesn’t mean I have to I have the right to draw whatever I want
In case anyone is actually wondering, that snake is a female albino Burmese python, she was 7 ft and 25 lbs at the time of the music video, and now she's 15 feet 100 lbs and living her best life. I'm no expert on popstars or body image, but I can confidently say this artist did a good job drawing the scaly girl and capturing her "No ears, don't care, this dance is pretty cool I guess" energy ❤️
If you're reading this and you're thinking how cool that snake is, and how you think it would be cool to have a snake buddy, you're in luck! Snakes are actually the easiest pets to keep as long as you get one that's not too venomous or too big. This is according to me AND actual experts. Do you're research to get a good snake and put it in a good set-up, and you'll have a drama-free buddy for the next decade or two. But watch out, it's hard to stop at just getting one 🥳
Thank you for this comment!! When I saw a popular singer holding a snake, I was worried because I thought she was just doing it to look cooler. I was like, what happened to the poor snake after this? I'm SO glad she was loved and cared for. ;w; I love snakes!
Isn't the snake named Banana? I think I read that somewhere. Which isn't the important part of knowing that the snake is well cared for, but I just love that little tidbit!
@@bunbunmikey7485 Britney called her Banana. The yellow coloration/morph is sometimes referred to as banana so that's probably where the idea came from. The owner apparently just lets whoever's working with her call her whatever, or wants to keep her real name private?
That's why I didn't mention a name, but for our purposes here Banana is as good a name as any :)
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If Brittany was a large woman with an underrepresented body type this would make sense. If you drew Lizzo skinny that would be a reason for alarm. But Brittany was always thin and attractive so drawing her that way and exaggerating it is not so strange. Body image in Hollywood and music is complicated but I think Brittany now is comfortable enough in her skin to not be bothered.
This. Thank you for pointing out so the stupid shitass can understand
This is on point. Great way to explain how unfair this situation is without disparaging the legitimate wider discussion about how representations of unrealistic body types can be harmful.
I personally think this is a grey area. I think the intention is harmless.But people who see themselves in Brittany with her body type might be hurt because it feels like the representation they see themselves in is going away? Like you said about Lizzo! She is also someone people see themselves in.
I think that personal drawings are not an exuse to misrepresent body types BUT I agree with you. There is nothing wrong with this particular art.
There's no alarm either way. Draw a skinny person fat or a fat person skinny, doesn't matter. People want to get upset, it actually fulfills them to be outraged.
This makes me sad. Come on, guys! Cartoons are traditionally exaggerated! Also, fan art is especially always exaggerated. Keep drawing, girl!
I never knew nsfw communities would be less weird than these fans
Right? That was one of my first thoughts too. The nsfw community will literally make fanart of real people and give them insane proportions in all sorts of way and no one bats an eye when that is MEANT to be over-sexualised or exaggerate some of their natural proportions. People really do find reasons to complain everyhere 🙄 smh.
Cuz we are of culture. Any culture we welcome.
Look, i myself had this nsfw account doing fanarts of videogames/anime characters and if I ever got dogpiled it was by teens who somehow had the “view sensitive media” activated and where browsing the nsfw tag. Then they complain that they got traumatized because you happened to draw their favorite (as if I did t because i thought of them) and they would never, so they have to honor their fictional idol and paint the artist the villian. I’m sorry to say but it’s these kids and their parents that are usually the problem.
Feels like people blaming videogames because 3 kids are violent
@@tiquismistica9417 Just like garnet's song, "Lookin for someone to blame, like its a game, like its a game, I am better than win or lose, its called the truth its called the truth". They always want to have a win or lose scenario, wanting to have a thing to blame it on even if its irrelevant. Why cant we just have an understanding, no wins no loses, just people knowing the mindset of the other and coming to a realization of why they do what they do
The thought that nsfw communities are somehow uniquely exempt from this same criticism is laughable.
It’s about not normalizing this level of organ deleting stylization as aspirational material for either intended or unintended demographics.
its funny cuz there's lit a britney parody character in fairly odd parents that has the same body type as her art and i doubt theyre shaking and crying and throwing up about that 💀
They're too busy calling Butch Hartman out on tracing (or "heavily referencing" commissions and other controversies of his.
It's weird when people feel like they should have a say in what you're "allowed" to do, or what you "should" do when it comes to your art.
*It's called stylization* why does the internet just prejudge artists
because tiktok is a bunch of mindless teenagers with tunnel vision, they dont understand that there are actual decisions behind stylization of characters. Aint nobody say shit about shredded musclebound dudes though, no man looks like that.
This is why you should not use taktik, absolute bullshit it is...
Because they probably like looking at a green line in the middle of a white background.
Because it’s a performative social justice. They think they have the “moral high ground”
Then there's Twitter
The worst part is that there's an interesting conversation to be had about the topic, there's a genuine critique about body types and beauty standards, but this people used this genuine concern to attack, harass, and bully this artist when she clearly had no bad intent. They used a valid observation just to shit on a person, and that's fucked up.
I’m tired of people imposing their own hatred, insecurity, and negativity onto others. I find solace in the Weird Al proverb: “Didn’t like that one […], have another!” (-keep doing your thing-).
People who go on a moral rampage like this and think they're having a positive impact on the world are delusional. If you end up the target of this kind of moral panic, try not to take it personally because these people are usually just upset about something else and using you as an unhealthy outlet for their rage.
Exactly
5:45 As an Artist you don’t HAVE to do anything another person says, once you pick up that pen/pencil/brush whatever you are in charge. You make your decisions. Art is freeform, why would you ever tie yourself down to what you can or cannot do. Ruins the point of it all
I almost spat out my water at "if it's based on somebody real, you have to adhear to realistic body proportions"
holy shit there's so many pieces of media from political cartoons that depicts caricatures to anime and cartoons that we all grew up with and even abstract art that defies realistic body proportions. No one has ever followed that rule unless you're a realism artist, which is understandable lol.
The gatekeeping mindset boggles me.
I don’t think anyone criticising is talking about realist body proportions but in fact body type. Britney doesn’t have an hourglass to begin with so its not something to exaggerate. She has a sporty toned rectangle shape with wide and in line shoulders waist and hips. This artist is skilled and used to draw many exaggerated stylised body types years back but now seem’s to draw mostly curvy hourglass figures. If it’s what they like then fair, though when drawing a real person it’s only respectful to not morph them into what the artist’s thinks of as an ideal body. I 100% believe this artist is capable of drawing Britney’s body in a sexy exaggerated way but like she said in the video, she prefers drawing curvy bodies (which is highly likely she’s subconsciously feeding into current beauty trends though obviously not her fault as I think we’re all susceptible to it)
@@Oopsydaisie
Okay but she can draw different bodies types, she didn’t want to in this drawing lmao. It wasn’t a mistake, it was a choice and all these people coming at her like she accidentally drew an hourglass figure is stupid as hell
NEVER remove yourself after negative comments about your work- it will blow over eventually - sometimes these negative mobs move in packs/ hive mind. Just continue. You will win in the end if your persevere.
Based on my own observation on Cancel Culture, they have very little power. I personally wouldn’t give crap if similar thing happened to me.
Plus if you delete whatever platform your on it only gives them more (imaginary) power and they think they can do everything
On today's news, non artist criticizes an actual artist for drawing fan art.
Also, as a young person, we do not claim these rude kids on tiktok. Its absolutely disgusting that they would so that.
She drew a cartoon not the ideal human. I can’t comprehend why people get so peeved about proportions that are exaggerated for effect! Just want exact body types? That’s boring!!
God, I'm already pre-annoyed 🙄
literally same I hate this generation
Who summoned me
@@cxnclled_6237 "this generation"..
Which one????
@@cheebuu3360 Z
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Agreed! But, I think the Millennials are pretty good contenders too. Since we kinda paved the way further for the Z after our previous generation of shitheads aka Boomers.
Every generation creates their own brand of future shitheads.
All the hate she got/is getting is total bs. I think we can all agree that she sounds like a very well-rounded and down to earth individual. She wasn’t being hateful towards different body types. I don’t understand what the big deal is. Sometimes I think people just want to be hateful just because.
Yep, they do, or they are really stupid and ignorant to understand that they are hateful. This whole situation here is toxic and wrong on so many levels.
I realize that people behave like this because they are unhappy and frustrated, they think that other people are responsible for what they feel which is not true. They are oversensitive over their complexes. They very often experience something not very great in the past and because of that they think that all people for example by just drawing thin females are hamming them. Like for example a girl that was sexually abused may in the future has problems to trust men's and form healthy relationship , first she will need to find peace in her self before she can move further.
That’s a gorgeous drawing wtf, massive Britney fan here and I love it, accentuated her curves and it’s so iconic!
people are just hating for the sake of hate.
it’s just that our current reality forces people to hide hate under pseudo-positive message
Painful truth QvQ
Yup
A lot of times they are not even positive, they even reach the point of menacing the person's life.
As Slavoj Zizek would say: normalized oppression.
She is a great artist, its sucks tik tok did this to her
Hope she is fine 🐢
It's outrage culture
saw that one of the tiktok comments said "pArT oF bEinG aN aRtiST iS rEceiViNG cRiTiciSm" which i thought was pretty stupid. not every artist or every drawing is drawn for the sake of improvement. constructive criticism is something you ask for, not something you should be expected to put up with on every image you draw. a huge part of art is self satisfaction and creating something you enjoy. its all so subjective and to suggest that as an artist you should be fine with constant critique and be ever-changing to please people is wrong. of course, its important to be able to keep learning and improving your craft, but this women is a professional. she's constantly improving, taking critique, practicing, and learning. she should be able to post ONE nice drawing without people feeling the need to project their expectations of her art onto her.
This may be an unpopular opinion but I fall hard on the 'this is not an issue' side of the fence. I even think Jackie was far too lenient on these people - saying things like "I could add more representation to my work" etc
You don't have to. It's your work. If all you want to draw are hyper sexualised women with hourglass figures then do it, it's no one's business to tell you what kind of art you should or shouldn't be making.
Make all the arguments you want about representation, feminism and body image but the buck stops at artistic freedom in my mind. Turn that ire to big companies and media who force male actors to dehydrate for 3 days before shooting and women to starve themselves and then photoshop them even thinner because it's still not enough.
An artist drawing exaggerated shapes on any social media platform is not part of the problem and again, in my mind, even if it was then artistic freedom still trumps someone else's politics.
Thank you!! I completely agree. When we start policing what body types/styles an artist can draw in their own free time, we're censoring creative expression and putting artists in a box.
This artist didn't deserve to get any hate and she certainly shouldn't feel like she did anything wrong.
I agree but It's always so hard to make people understand that.
Yeah, attacking an artists isn't going to fix body image issues caused by Hollywood, magazines, the modelling industry, etc.
last I checked artistic freedom doesn't mean freedom from criticism, and unless these people were trying to get her fired or something (which this is not deserving of in any way) them saying their opinion is just freedom of expression (you know, the umbrella artistic freedom falls under)
@@hornylink "freedom of expression" (which isn't a thing-do you mean "freedom of speech"? Because that only applies to the government) doesn't mean people get to be assholes with no consequence.
imagine studying years and working hard to perfect a skill to then have to rationalize hate from people who spend too much time on the internet.
Imaginé spend years of your life drawing and learning and have to read comments from people who dont know how to draw even a simple line telling you what u should draw bc moralism... These people sucks.
So, for ordinary folk, art is either realism either anime. No stylisation for them. If I draw feminine dudes then somebody will point it out and comment.
I also once got my drawing "fixed" by my art teacher. She turned a male character into a girl, and when I asked why did she do it she went something like "oh bUt they LoOkEd fEmaLe tO mE"
What a beautiful world we live in.
This just seems like textbook virtue-signaling.
It's a very common trend to hate on sexily drawn females to make it seem like they're on much higher moral grounds than those who enjoy these types of artworks, then quickly denote those people as perverts and sexists.
Yeah, feels very “White Knight” of those who r criticizing the art style
it is for sure no doubt about it.
Really weird, considering that leftism is often associated with sex positivity. So are we all just taking the conservative Christian route now? Everyone be sure to be covered head to toe, no skin shall show lest you tempt another with lust /s
I don’t think that’s what this is about at all. I think people are upset that Britney was drawn with a small waist to “make her look sexy.” It reenforces an unrealistic beauty standard for women. I do understand that the art is stylized, but the style seems to be based on harmful beauty standards. I think the main issue is that this a real person being drawn with a different body type to their own in order to fit a beauty standard. That being said, I don’t agree with sending hate to the artist; the problem seems to lie more-so with societal beauty standards than the artist themselves.
@@laura-en6ih Well its a cartoon doode. Its not supposed to be realistic and people have there own style. I don't think she needs to change her style because of some overly sensitive stans. Don't apply real life to art, its what leads to stupid "art fixing". In fact, and I don't want to make assumptions, but I am willing to bet that Brittany would love this doodle.
I mean this stems down to three things. People hate it because either they're not skilled enough to do it, because they don't match the body she drew, or because they literally have such good lives that they make issues up.
Honestly, I thought her drawing was very well stylized and now I wanna look into her work more because I want to study her style to adapt for my own art style. That kind of hate she got was undeserved and idiotic. Honestly, it makes me hate TikTok even more than I already do.
The thing I hate most in this world are people who get angry and offended on behalf of others- what I'm curious about is, if this drawing was shown to Britney in the flesh, would she herself care? I doubt it (although there's no real way of knowing lol)
Are these people getting angry at the fact that it was Britney who was drawn in such a way- or just that this artists way of drawing her does not meet their ideals (I reckon the latter). either way they're all ridiculous
smh, care about something that actually matters. like human trafficking, modern day slavery of disabled people in South Korea, deforestation, the prosecution of the LGBT in countries where its illegal to even exist, poaching of endangered species literally everywhere- I could go on and on.
- but hey, getting mad about a drawing of a celebrity is more important :)
sorry for the rant
Also when people get offended “for” others, they overshadow the people who are actually affected by this.
Exactly, you are right. Theres people dying of hunger all around the world, and this teens complain about a drawing. But of course they always justify it as "but certain drawings are also a problem", i can see it as a problem, but its not an important one.
I agree with your comment, but I'm sorry, South Korea? Can you elaborate for me
I agree but i don't think getting angry or caring for other is not the issue. That's empathy but the problem comes from people who use this "empathy" As an excuse. They aren't really angry for her, they are just using her to implement and justify their hate. Just wanted to mention the difference. Thank you.
12:35 I totally get what she’s saying about being aesthetically drawn to certain shapes. I do the same thing with hands, men’s body types, clothes, etc.
Not saying it has nothing to do with skinny bias, but it is more disconnected from body image than non-artists might assume. It has more to do with shape language. Also it’s probably just fun to draw, and not that complicated?
Right? I tend to draw my own body shape a lot just because I've referenced myself for poses so often that it's just what's comfortable, but if I wanna branch out I like to just go more shapey and not think about the anatomy. I feel like non artists think that we're constantly thinking about what we're drawing and that we never just use art to get lost. Either way I liked her redraw
I think it's part of shape appeal. A big, medium and small shape goes well when placed together. And yes I agree, it's not that big of a deal, people just want a reason to be angry about and shit on people.
I agree but when it comes to a real life person, isn’t it odd to give them entirely different features? Like if for say someone was obese and an artist drew them stick skinny or if someone had a big nose and then was drawn with a tiny buttoned one? Or like in this case someone with a none defined rectangle shape was drawn as an idealised hourglass?
@@Oopsydaisie notice that she exaggerated the reference pose as it wasn’t that dynamic, therefore simplifying the torso into just a rectangle is going to erase the gesture of the figure, making it look too blocky (especially this one because the pose is pretty static), which of course can work if you are used to that art style, however this particular artist used fluid lines to exaggerate the gesture and simplify the connection between the ribcage and pelvis. And remember, a real human figure has rhythm and gestural lines everywhere. Of course, another reason is that hourglass figure looks more visually appealing. And about that, (artists making an obese person into a skinny one) it’s not something i will/want to defend.
@@karenemy1098 I think you can do that though without changing the refs features. Like in the ref video there are still many curves to the body. I don’t see how artists should limit themselves to one default body type of tiny waist and big hips with every piece especially when they’ve shown they can do others. Don’t think it’s the artists fault though, it’s just society today. Like you’ve said - where the past 10 or so years of beauty trends have imbedded into us that the hourglass is the ideal. Anyway, I love her art and I’m not too fussed.
I love the style she drew Britney,
and I'm sure if Britney Spears sees it,
she's going to love the drawing too.
It sounds like the "Body Positive" group is attacking her.
What? But literally everyone is drawing everyone, so why...?
Would I get cancelled if I drew a cartoon of a random celebrity?
This world is getting really incomprehensible.
Do you care???? Do you really care what those idiots will say???
@@r.g.36 Depends on who is saying what, I guess...
@@r.g.36 Unfortunately those idiots are the loudest and they also attack foreign artists whom I love and who has nothing to do with another nation's politics. Its sad, for a world that has freedom of expression why are some condemned to draw the way they draw. Its fine if its a hobby to just draw but my man to some this is their livelihood and can be hard when one is just starting out.
You kinda missed the point they arent angry because she drew a celebrity
They are angry because of how the body type was badly represented
Personally I don't really care in this case but I get where they come from
@@p0p525 honestly im not sure if its about having a "badly drawn body proportion" or that they rather just want to see anything but this type. This time their criticisms kind of dont make sense when it came to this specific illustration after all its not like she's drawn a very slim and curvy lizzo which is obviously not the right body type for that illustration and requires a new kind of composition.
I saw many comments there that dictate what and how artists should draw, and if you can’t draw the whole range of drawings, then you’re a bad or lazy artist… Then I’m sure most of these bad commenters are not even an artist themselves.
Because when you have spent countless hours of drawing, you will figure out your preferences, what you like to draw, what you don’t find enjoy to draw. What your art style. Your strength. Your weakness. Even the most professional illustrators are not jack of all trades. They have their own thing. And just because you’re good at your thing and you bad at other things doesn’t mean that you’re a bad artist.
exactly, some people just like drawing more attractive things. simple as that
They just want to have jack of all trades , master of none. Heck the artist who designed chun-li from street fighter said he has a hard time drawing figure facing the left. Some artists are known for only drawing women, or only men too. Hah, people like this are the ones who think drawing is easy, maybe they should start drawing what they think should be drawn then maybe they won't need to force others to abide to their wrapped standards.
It's obvious that these commenters aren't artists when they can't understand that art is a form of expression.
On the topic of people who aren’t artist telling artists what to do:
I hate it when people go into comment sections and say “oh my gash, you are SooOO talented! Like, I can’t even draw a circle”
And they start acting like art is impossible and only few “chosen ones” can be good at it.
It makes me SCREAM in my head “JUST FREAKING PRACTICE ITS NOT THAT HARD!!!”
It always seems to be THAT kind of compliment, it’s never “wow the colors are really pretty, wow I love the ways the eyes look” it’s always “ UGH your sooo talented! I can’t even do that!”
It gets on my nerves
I know this is unrelated to the video but I’ve been wanting to bring this up for a while.
@@stefanijovita1640 nowadays there's too much "pressure" on being politically "correct". What if those who only draw one gender are suddenly called sexists but deep down they just enjoy drawing them. Man I miss the days where the artists are not attacked as a "person".
She actually killed it. If Britney Spears can’t be drawn with an hourglass figure than who can?
Right? It's not like she turned a plus-sized person into an horglass figure
Her lineart is so on point.
Right? I was about to ask what pen she used but the stream ended.
@@NBDYSPCL I'm pretty sure it's like a normal g pen in CSP with pressure sentisivity.
@@y0n_8 it’s procreate
@@DoodleDan yeah I know, the pen is similar to g pen in csp
In CSP there is an option in brush settings, to draw lines more on point, removing the noise made by shaking hands and less precise strokes. I forgot the name, but it really speeds up drawing a clean lineart. I suppose every other popular program has something like this nowadays.
I kind of wanna follow the artist, because this pic is BEAUTIFUL o__o
She’s awesome! Jackiedroujko 👌
Go give her a follow! ♥️
If you wanna dabble in gouache, then she has these beautiful gouache paintings that might interest you ❤
I already do, just not on Tiktok. So I totally missed all the drama. I was flabbergasted when it turned out to be Jackie.
You should! Her art is nice :DD
Here’s her UA-cam channel: ua-cam.com/users/JackieDroujko
People need to chill. It's just a stylized fan inspired drawing. It's literally not hurting anyone. If she was drawing realism, then yes, the drawing would be best by being proportionally matched to Britney. It's not though, it's stylized and fun and it's perfectly okay.
People are so mean for crazy reasons. The lines are so pretty and the drawing is simply beautiful.
I personally support the idea that diversity in body type is good and necessary. (And sometimes art styles like the bruce timm style with very skinny waists annoy me tbh) but this is a conversation we need to be having about social trends *in general*. Targeting specific artists for harassment is cruel and pointless.
🤝
It's because the harassment comes from people who think artists should be propagandists.
I mean it depends on the work. You don't need to have a ton of diverse body types in every work. As an example, if I'm drawing superhero comics about people who spend their time training and fighting they should probably all be pretty muscular, or at least a minimum level of fit. If I'm drawing a futuristic society like the one in WALL-E then everyone should probably look overweight.
If I'm just drawing for myself, I'll draw what I PERSONALLY find visually appealing. It will tend towards an idealized body type. The fact that most people draw this is a reflection of what most people find visually appealing, it isn't to be exclusionary. There are artists out there who only draw heavier bodies, and that's totally fine. They like the aesthetic. If you let people draw what they want and enjoy you may not see a ton of diversity, but that's ok! There will always be people who do enjoy other body types, so follow the artists who draw in styles that appeal to you!
Agreed,💞
this exactly, harassament isin't going to do anything exept hurt others.
I can't fucking believe things like this. What if I uploaded one of my drawings one day and instead of the support I need to keep pushing forward I'm met with negativity? Drawing is not easy and each piece you make takes a lot of time, so having people assume things about you and your work and discouraging you is just so unfair and shattering. Shame on them. Anyone who's trying to tell you what not to do while drawing should not be allowed around artists. The entire point is to be creative, you can literally do whatever you want.
These people don't know anything about character design. Look at Disney, Pixar, any of these cartoons you see on tv. The characters are all stylized and often have very exaggerated features. The point on Lizzo is a great one. This is a good picture, and there isn't anytihng disrespectful about it. All of the fundamentals are spot on: composition, line work, color palette, shading, and even the stylized proportions are done well.
You aren't doing anything wrong or bad. Keep doing you. Don't stop making art and don't change for anyone else. This was meant to be a fun drawing,, and the picture certainly looks fun and lively. :)
So, just because the market created a sexist "ideal body type" - wich changed over time, btw - nobody can draw using some characteristics that "belongs" to that? In order to beat an "evil" pattern established we need to create another and punish the person that doesn't follow this new one like a jihadist? Sexism doesn't own things, it uses them.
Sexy characters are sexy characters, is a concept, not a sexism's tool, the problem is in the perception of who sees it. If a sexy character "belongs" to sexism, then it should be banned, but then, sex should be banned from everywhere. Sex is part of life, the problem is not representing it, is not drawing sexy things, the problem is in the sexist mindset. If didn't exist sexist people, no one would have any problem with that drawing. So, to "fight" against sexism wouldn't be better to educate people about it? 'cause sexy things, unique artstyles, provocative drawings, exagerated figures, etc. can exist in a feminist world, the only difference would be that everybody would understand that it's not reallity and nobody should strive to achieve that kind of body, that it is just a stylized drawing.
The world is not manichean, it is way more complex than that and art can be a lot of things at the same time, depends on the context and the receiver values. It's not like "this is sexist" and "this is ok", if it was: who decides these things? If people understand better equality and respect, the unnecessary sensualization will be less used to sell things, but in art, there is no such a thing, art is necessary and unnecessary, is just self expression, no one really needs it to stay alive, but is essencial to live.
Now, a person that clearly already cares about it can be judging herself everytime she starts drawing, limiting her creativity, and, at the same time, giving bad example to everybody that thinks that representation, and things like that, is stupid and everyone who cares about it is radical that doesn't accept a different point of view... way to go to make the world a better place e more acceptable to diversity.
Where are her organs rodolfo?
@@stevelandon7032 interesting question, but we need to first make sure we are talking about the same aspect, concept and definition. If we are talking about a non realistic drawing, then organs may not be a concern to the composition. It's about colors, shapes, lines, shadows, emotions, etc. all things inherent to humans, but in a unique way different from reality. If we are talking about body itself, then we know this type of body just doesn't exist in the real world. If we transpose realistic elements to where it doesn't belong then a lot of type of art shouldn't exist. Picasso, Salvador Dali, Tarcila do Amaral, Fernando Botero, Basquiat, Edvard Munch and a lot others shouldn't be allowed to do what they did. If we transpose art to real life, then it's a real problem 'cause it would be a delusion. Industry doesn't own any body type or artstyle, it just misused to sell things and to spread it's values. Like swastika, the symbol itself is ancient, with a lot of different meanings, many conected to religion and positive things and it's still used in some cultures as a symbol of good luck and prosperity. Nazism doesn't own the symbol, just appropriated it in a bad way.
@@rsydw don't respond to that person, theyre just full of hatred and will never understand even if someone tell them a very detailed and real facts, they are denial and have a very big ego, thanks for the explanation btw 🥰 it is a very good perspective, non biased opinion❤️
People chase artists with pitchforks for drawing sexy girls but never complain about real life influencers and lifestyle gurus promoting an 'idealized' body image
They're cowards, and artists are in the bottom of the foodchain in social media thus easier to target
Yeah... non-artists forget that stylization is a thing. I'm all for body positivity and diversity in art, I love and support it, but people need to chill out. Seriously.
People are frustrated with themselves. tik tok is an unregulated fighting pit. you'll never be able to please everyone. try not to take things personal. tax the rich. hope everyone has a nice day and feels better soon, we love you.
btw thanks for posting, ethan.
When people forget that drawing is about interpretation of form. This allows artists to have their own style. Like i always say to my child if you want picture perfect, take a photograph
When the last time people haven't been overreacting on the internet
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣
this whole thing is a debate on beauty standards and how people take "advantage" of these beauty standards in art. I get the argument that drawing only pretty features or bodies only reinforces that standard of beauty, but can you really blame the artist for making a piece that is appealing to look at? If you gotta be mad at something be mad at people claiming their photoshopped pictures are "real" and unedited instead of going after illustrators who make obviously stylized drawings
Why can't people just cancel the people who find serial killers hot? That'd make the world a better place
This is sadly a common thing on TikTok. Bullying runs rampant on the platform. Art, music, comedy and everything else is put on blast
Lack of representation? Man, if we were in 1800 I would believe you, but we are in 2021and fortunately there's a lot more representation and voices being heard. If you want to represent cool, if you don't it's also cool, while you are having fun and not harming anyone :D
Facts! And people are masking their meaningless hate as “criticism.” If they want there to be more art of different body types (or genders, races, etc), they can make it themselves instead of forcing other people to change their art (and besides that, there are already plenty of artists who draw all sorts of different subjects in all sorts of different styles). It’s very toxic of these people to be singling someone out for not making art the specific way they want them to.
@@B1gBoyPants That is why it is better not to view and read comments.
A wise starfish once said, "Take it easy, it's just a drawing."
"Show body type variety, BUT NOT THAT BODY TYPE RGHHHH!!!" Whatever, this shit's silly. A lot of these guys are offering up fake criticism, it has nothing to do with how well she's drawing and everything to do with what they want her to draw. Variety in characters is great and all, and over a huge project it becomes more valuable but for a single character within a selection of 3 tiktoks without any kind of narrative connection it doesn't matter for shit.
It's almost like artist like have creative freedom of expression.
The cancel culture are out of control, imagine now canceling a creative drawing.
There´s just people that just crave drama.
I know it can be hard to ignore them because of how direct they´re comments are.
I hope you can put it behind and keep doing art YOU like just the way YOU want to do it.
A great artist should not care about what no-talent-trolls have to say.
Who says she's a great artist ?
@@idonthaveaname1419 anyone that has eyes.
@@CertifiedBootlicker best thing to do is ignore the trolls.
@@CertifiedBootlicker what is a great artist to you ?
Frankly, I think it’s absurd that it has gotten to the point where a lot of the time you *can’t not* ignore the hate mobs.
I went through Jackie's entire Instagram for context. Her portraits of women seem to depict a similar body type, though I noticed that some of her older artwork (I think it was most noticeable around 2017) depicts a lot of different body types and it looked phenomenal! The chubby mermaid drawing is one of my favorite pieces of hers.
It's natural for artists to find a specific niche and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. Jackie is free to draw what she likes. Personally, it'd be nice to see her experiment more with her artwork, but she's under no obligation to. This is all only based on artwork she's publicly shown; her personal drawings could be more varied for all I know (though she's under no obligation to share those pieces).
Side Note: I recognize Jackie's "funny nose" comic and I had no idea she was the same person who drew this piece!
Okay? She doesn’t have to do anything. How about YOU learn to draw? Draw all the fat mermaids you want. Draw the body types you want to see more of, stop trying to influence actual artists to draw what others want.
@@blackbat908 My name is literally "Tuesday's Art", what are you going on about?
@@blackbat908 Also, the second paragraph goes on about how Jackie is free to draw whatever she likes and how it's natural for artists to find a specific niche. Idk why you're getting so defensive.
No ! Do not let “people” control your artistic ability. She is sexy with pretty lines and curves. Is there a place to include all body types yes! Don’t shame expression or feel regret on your ideas. “People” need to look at themselves and ask why are YOU offended by this piece! I love it great job!!!
How did we end up bashing people for harmless artwork? The audacity of some people -.-
Also that picture is so beautiful, she didn't deserve the hate she got. My heart goes out for her 💕
Not harmless, not mindless bashing. Where do her organs go?
Lmao.
@@stevelandon7032 calm down Steve it's just a drawing
@@stevelandon7032 You can't see it because you need to get your eye checked. Those cataracts seem to make it hard for you to see artistic vision.
@@stevelandon7032 WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT HER ORGANS, ORGANS ARE ALWAYS INSIDE THE BODY
@@stevelandon7032 she has sold them to buy a snake.
Seriously, calm down already