THANK YOU i cleaned the ground beside the battery on fender and so far working good Cleaned both sides of washer with wire brush,cleaned bolt, cleaned fender attachment area
Thank God somebody finally stated where the ground was that they cleaned for this particular fuse box and relay. I've been asking all over the comments. Do you happen to own a Cherokee or a Commander?
I watched 6 different videos, one over 45 minutes and this is hands down, the best one. Even if this isn’t the issue with my Jeep, great video. Thank you.
You Sir, are my hero! Just wish my son could have found your video prior to 3 days of head scratching and $200 in parts on a 2005 Liberty Renegade! Turns out about 35 cents worth of butt connector and wire did trick. You are THE MAN!
You sir are the man this video turned my 5 hour starter replacement into a 5 minute ground cleaning don't even bother replacing the wires that's all it needs starts like a charm at 170k miles in Northern Illinois
Thank you as well!!! Two days battling with the starter and so many wires and then I accidently grounded the wrong relay wire and blew a couple fuses but when I rerouted the correct ground wire from that relay like he showed in the video the jeep started right up!!! Thank you thank you!!!
Man… I have an appointment at the dealer to fix my intermittent click, no start problem on my Jeep Commander. I had already changed the starter. Then had the same problem. They were going to charge me $180 diagnostic… The service guy already speculated, “if you have already changed the starter, and the fuses and relays are fine, it might be the ECM or a problem with the Power Control Distribution Center.” I’m guessing I wouldn’t have gotten out of there for under $750. Thanks. Great work… and really good video!
I went through and tested everything you did and when I tested that ground wire that was the problem...I spliced a new ground wire to a known good ground connection on the car...it started right up. Thanks bro! Saved me time and money.
2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and this video saved me a ton of cash and time! I didn't have to cut any wires to ground it, but this put me on the track to fix a loose wire and worked like a charm!
You absolutely are the man, I love this platform and appreciate the people that take time to help out others that can't afford a $1000 to have your vehicle serviced.
Mobile mechanic had relay no start on 2009 jeep cherokee same issue relay was in different place but I traced the yellow wire from starter solenoid up to fuse box relay tested all the circuit found hot wire was not getting power to relay thanks for your video i was stump to what was wrong found it my client is happy.
You Sir are awesome and saved me from replacing the starter. I disconnected ground from fire wall wire brushed and it’s good as new. Thank You for the video
Thank you! Thank you! Thank your!!! Had the exact same issue on my '07 for months now and this fixed the problem. Took me 1 hr. by simply jumping a new ground from the relay as you have shown. Was about to change out the ignition switch. Thanks YOU!!
I have the twin to this Jeep, It even has the same air freshener on the same vent. Had to have it towed home the other day with the same problem that has been a off and on problem for a couple years now. Can't trust the old girl! I was planning to change the starter when time permits but now I'm going to test as you did. Thanks for the tip! It all makes sense now! Stand by for an update..........
I am very grateful to the author of this video, by watching the video I was able to solve the same problem with my jeep. I just want to add that I reinforced the ground next to the chassis and it was enough.
Thank you so much for this video, extremely helpful. I truly appreciate your willingness to take the time and make a video solely to help other people out with there own repairs. Thank you kind Sir!
Hey I have a 2007 jeep Laredo grand Cherokee. I just did this and it worked perfectly. People was telling me it was the starter but it wasn't. So thanks alot for this video it saved me 150 dollars. But I was wondering if I can continue to drive it like this
Just check, clean and improve all chassis grounds relating to those areas. Should solve the problem for anyone viewing this. I do this on any older vehicle of mine. Battery to chassis, chassis to engine, ending to frame, engine to chassis, always check, clean, tighten those grounds. Or replace the wiring if they are suspect. Same on ANY motor vehicle, motorcycle, atv, ANYTHING.
Outstanding brother. I did it and the results are perfect. Just wish I would have found this video before I purchased and changed the starter. It worked on my 2006 Jeep Commander. Again THNX. Mac
Bro thank you you said yourself you were in a rush however thanks for making that video I have the same issue one night I try to turn key over and just clicks I'm like wtf was just working. Ended up working again until a few days later same thing. I'm gonna do as you did and will reply with the conclusion.
Good job Cliff! Those leads and contacts under the fuse/relay box, are the problem with mine. Again, no ground, but the contact on the end of the ground wire was corroded, and not making a good electrical connection. Now it cranks, but doesn’t yet start, I suspect that there are other problems of the same type in that wiring of the box.
Thank u for this video if it wasn’t for me and my dad my brother would of spent alot of money on his jeep love the video! Hope it goes to more audiences that need this video 👍👍👍
Thank you to help, this video was really good for me, please could you to do a heat transmission video when pull a trailer; I have big problem. Thanks in advance.
Hello, there is one shortcut path here, the (-) on the relay electromagnet is not always conected with GND, this signal is comming from powertrain control module, so your solution will work but you can also run the starter in cases when normaly you can't do this, i.e. in case enginee is running already.
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My 2008 Commander just did the same thing this past weekend. It worked fine in the morning then went to start it in the afternoon and just got clicking sound. I was going to make plans to repair it but will check the relay first. I have good voltage on my battery also.
This was not my problem however I didn’t have the best ground at the relay so i did leave this trick on my Jeep. Turned out I did have a bad ground but was at the starter the bolt was loose. However I did end up replacing the starter because it was a pain in the you know what to change so I put in a new one. Still this helped a lot thank You.
I was having the same exact problem on my 2009 Jeep Commander and it was the wires underneath the ones closest to the driver side it was a yellow wire I think it was part of the wiring harness good. But I cleaned it really good and all that and now it works just fine, and it did it multiple times like I probably had it happen to me 15 times
My Jeep will start when its been sitting for at least a few hours then it doesn't start after I drive it around and turn it off. Is that issue you had?
My issue was a small Clip/ spade connector which was loose attached to the starter , I had those exact symptoms. It was not the ignition switch , it was not a ground issue at the relay box .
So I'm not getting a click from the starter relay and I replaced it and ran a ground from the starter relay to the driveline federally like you did and I get nothing from the relay and yes I did get a new battery. Removed the starter and tested it which it passed and also put a new female on the Yellow wire nothing any recommendations?
I tested the negative and it read full 12.85V Edit : the problem was the negative connector to the starter was loose at the starter i clipped it with pliers and no more problem
Please help. I have 12 v in the second hole to the starter... ground is good 12v. Even the one to the ignition is good. But the first hole where u said it's always hot I'm not getting anything what could I do there? Would it be the red wire that connects to the starter because the wire under the relay hole is red.
Okay this is my problem, but I really need help. I disassembled the fuse box to get to the spark plugs and put everything back together and now my cars not starting saying service 4wd and service electric brake system. It’s not even turning over. So I think it’s the ground like you mentioned but it’s hookup up. :/
Had a feeling it was the ground.. my friend is having the same problem with their 98.. i keep telling them the ground or positive cables.. need cleaning or traced and cleaned.. or reppaced.. but they just keep cleaning the battery terminals.. but not the other ones
Seems like everyone understands but me, where are we getting these loose wires and what exactly did you snip? What do you mean ground I thought all metal in car was ground…can someone explain to me like I’m 5
im prayin its the ground wire because i just bought a starter relay yesterday then it worked i came in the house came back out and it wouldnt start again man im sooo pissed 😤
I'm having that same issue in my 1996 ZG grand cherokee Laredo. Turn the key, dash lights come on and everything as it should then when I go to crank it over the starter relay clicks but nothing else happens so ill have to buy a multimeter and try this out.
I'm having this issue and I just replaced the starter and it didn't solve my problem. This fix doesn't make sense though. If the relay clicks, then you have ground on pin 85 of the relay, and power from the ignition on pin 86. When those are activated, the relay closes the path between 30 (source power) and 87 (output). 87 of this relay goes to the spade connector on the starter. The thing about this fix is, all you did was connect pin 85 to ground, but if it was a good enough of a ground to click before the fix, then it was a strong enough ground... I'm not saying that Chrysler doesn't have terrible grounds all over the car, because they do. I just can't make sense of this fix. A relay doesn't click but not work unless it's broken...
The only thing that I notice from time to time is that fuse box gets very dirty inside. There might be some kind of air flow issue that goes directly under and in to that box. So humidity, rain, and dirt could be corroding the connections. About a year ago I changed the relay and the wire going to the starter, that’s what fixed mine. Now I have to change my ignition switch, because all of my electrical is going wonky. Hopefully that’s what the problem is🤞🏻
I just put front struts and upper arm and wheels back on and the 2006 Jeep-Grand Cherokee will not even light up the interior lights, dead as a door nail. 12volts on the battery not sure about amps.
There are 4 tabs along the sides of the lower box. Start with the two in the back by simply using a small, flat screwdriver to release the clips and pull up. Then do the same on the 2 in the front and pull up. The wire harness coming up into the box is tight but you can move it around enough to get to the underside.
I cant see exactly where you put the ground wire i am having the same problem, i hear click but wont start can you help a little more by which wire color or what fuse or relay can wire a new ground, thanks
THANK YOU
i cleaned the ground beside the battery on fender and so far working good
Cleaned both sides of washer with wire brush,cleaned bolt, cleaned fender attachment area
Thank God somebody finally stated where the ground was that they cleaned for this particular fuse box and relay. I've been asking all over the comments. Do you happen to own a Cherokee or a Commander?
I watched 6 different videos, one over 45 minutes and this is hands down, the best one. Even if this isn’t the issue with my Jeep, great video. Thank you.
You Sir, are my hero! Just wish my son could have found your video prior to 3 days of head scratching and $200 in parts on a 2005 Liberty Renegade! Turns out about 35 cents worth of butt connector and wire did trick. You are THE MAN!
You sir are the man this video turned my 5 hour starter replacement into a 5 minute ground cleaning don't even bother replacing the wires that's all it needs starts like a charm at 170k miles in Northern Illinois
Thank you as well!!! Two days battling with the starter and so many wires and then I accidently grounded the wrong relay wire and blew a couple fuses but when I rerouted the correct ground wire from that relay like he showed in the video the jeep started right up!!! Thank you thank you!!!
@@CarlosRodriguez-hr3ke what color was the ground wire
Where was the ground that needed to be cleaned? Like what area in the engine bay should I look for this ground?
Which wire did he cut i need to do the same thing
Man… I have an appointment at the dealer to fix my intermittent click, no start problem on my Jeep Commander. I had already changed the starter. Then had the same problem. They were going to charge me $180 diagnostic… The service guy already speculated, “if you have already changed the starter, and the fuses and relays are fine, it might be the ECM or a problem with the Power Control Distribution Center.” I’m guessing I wouldn’t have gotten out of there for under $750. Thanks. Great work… and really good video!
Just got exactly the same issues... many thanks brother. Best wishes from the UK 👍
I went through and tested everything you did and when I tested that ground wire that was the problem...I spliced a new ground wire to a known good ground connection on the car...it started right up. Thanks bro! Saved me time and money.
2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and this video saved me a ton of cash and time! I didn't have to cut any wires to ground it, but this put me on the track to fix a loose wire and worked like a charm!
Where was the loose wire you ended up finding located at?
@@lestatdelioncourt7513 I do not remember the specific wire but I do know I pulled the box up and checked them all.
You absolutely are the man, I love this platform and appreciate the people that take time to help out others that can't afford a $1000 to have your vehicle serviced.
Great video. Everyone assumes it's a major electrical issue, starter, ign switch, etc.
Mobile mechanic had relay no start on 2009 jeep cherokee same issue relay was in different place but I traced the yellow wire from starter solenoid up to fuse box relay tested all the circuit found hot wire was not getting power to relay thanks for your video i was stump to what was wrong found it my client is happy.
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You Sir are awesome and saved me from replacing the starter. I disconnected ground from fire wall wire brushed and it’s good as new. Thank You for the video
Thank you! Thank you! Thank your!!! Had the exact same issue on my '07 for months now and this fixed the problem. Took me 1 hr. by simply jumping a new ground from the relay as you have shown. Was about to change out the ignition switch. Thanks YOU!!
I have the twin to this Jeep, It even has the same air freshener on the same vent. Had to have it towed home the other day with the same problem that has been a off and on problem for a couple years now. Can't trust the old girl! I was planning to change the starter when time permits but now I'm going to test as you did. Thanks for the tip! It all makes sense now! Stand by for an update..........
Did it work?
I am very grateful to the author of this video, by watching the video I was able to solve the same problem with my jeep. I just want to add that I reinforced the ground next to the chassis and it was enough.
I'm going to try this on my buddy's jeep, its been giving him hell couple years now. I'll leave a update how this turns out. great advice
Most jeeps seem to be the actuator pin
Did it work?
Thank you so much for this video, extremely helpful. I truly appreciate your willingness to take the time and make a video solely to help other people out with there own repairs. Thank you kind Sir!
Hey I have a 2007 jeep Laredo grand Cherokee. I just did this and it worked perfectly. People was telling me it was the starter but it wasn't. So thanks alot for this video it saved me 150 dollars. But I was wondering if I can continue to drive it like this
I still own the car and it's been driving just fine ever since.
Did you keep driving it with a problem?
thanks.
exactly what I got going for me . I hope it works for me. Thank you
This is exactly what's wrong with my brothers jeep thank you I'll do this for sure tomorrow when I have more daylight
Just check, clean and improve all chassis grounds relating to those areas. Should solve the problem for anyone viewing this. I do this on any older vehicle of mine. Battery to chassis, chassis to engine, ending to frame, engine to chassis, always check, clean, tighten those grounds. Or replace the wiring if they are suspect. Same on ANY motor vehicle, motorcycle, atv, ANYTHING.
Outstanding brother. I did it and the results are perfect. Just wish I would have found this video before I purchased and changed the starter. It worked on my 2006 Jeep Commander. Again THNX. Mac
It’s been awhile since this video came out but thank you that helped out my issue right way, very helpful video and str8 to the point
You are alright Man, I am dealing with exactly the same problem. Thanks a lot.
Bro thank you you said yourself you were in a rush however thanks for making that video I have the same issue one night I try to turn key over and just clicks I'm like wtf was just working. Ended up working again until a few days later same thing. I'm gonna do as you did and will reply with the conclusion.
Thank you your video saved me from being stranded.
Good job Cliff! Those leads and contacts under the fuse/relay box, are the problem with mine. Again, no ground, but the contact on the end of the ground wire was corroded, and not making a good electrical connection. Now it cranks, but doesn’t yet start, I suspect that there are other problems of the same type in that wiring of the box.
Thank u for this video if it wasn’t for me and my dad my brother would of spent alot of money on his jeep love the video! Hope it goes to more audiences that need this video 👍👍👍
Thank you to help, this video was really good for me, please could you to do a heat transmission video when pull a trailer; I have big problem. Thanks in advance.
Great video worked for my 06 SRT8
Great troubleshooting. Starting with the cheap stuff first is good. Starter is $700 here. Want to be sure of the problem before shelling out
Thank you so much for this video! You saved me another expensive trip to the dealership. Worked perfectly for my 2006 Commander 4.7.
Hello, there is one shortcut path here, the (-) on the relay electromagnet is not always conected with GND, this signal is comming from powertrain control module, so your solution will work but you can also run the starter in cases when normaly you can't do this, i.e. in case enginee is running already.
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Thank you - you are a good diagnosis & detective!!!
Was about to buy and install a new starter but gonna try this first... Identical problem on my end! HOPEFUL!!! :)
My 2008 Commander just did the same thing this past weekend. It worked fine in the morning then went to start it in the afternoon and just got clicking sound. I was going to make plans to repair it but will check the relay first. I have good voltage on my battery also.
if my starter ground is showing 12 v, what should i look into next?
Great job Gilford, spot on!
I have the same Problem with a 3.0 crd. I will try it tomorrow. Thanks for your vid.
Not sure if this is my problem but I may be returning the new starter I just bought.
This was not my problem however I didn’t have the best ground at the relay so i did leave this trick on my Jeep. Turned out I did have a bad ground but was at the starter the bolt was loose. However I did end up replacing the starter because it was a pain in the you know what to change so I put in a new one. Still this helped a lot thank You.
Mine was doing the same but what you did does work thanks sir
I was having the same exact problem on my 2009 Jeep Commander and it was the wires underneath the ones closest to the driver side it was a yellow wire I think it was part of the wiring harness good. But I cleaned it really good and all that and now it works just fine, and it did it multiple times like I probably had it happen to me 15 times
My Jeep will start when its been sitting for at least a few hours then it doesn't start after I drive it around and turn it off. Is that issue you had?
Same here , you got a diagnosis and solution?
^^^
Sounds a lot like heat soak
@@theharoonbuilds5310 is it diesel or gas. I had diesel and had.problem. changed injectors
Thanks. Gonna try it on my 07
Your a smart man!!! This was a helpful video as I have the same issue with starting my jeep .thx
got a 07 jeep with the same problem that you for the video
good catch bro. that was a good troubleshooting procedure
Great video, helpful. And no bs.
Had the same problem - earth wire at bottom leading to starter motor attached to chassis need to be cleaned
Ok i did mine last night and today its started first turn evdry time...yaya thankyou
What happens if you end up getting good ground what else can be the problem
My issue was a small Clip/ spade connector which was loose attached to the starter , I had those exact symptoms. It was not the ignition switch , it was not a ground issue at the relay box .
So I'm not getting a click from the starter relay and I replaced it and ran a ground from the starter relay to the driveline federally like you did and I get nothing from the relay and yes I did get a new battery. Removed the starter and tested it which it passed and also put a new female on the Yellow wire nothing any recommendations?
Test the relay if it's getting power when you crank the key if not I'd start looking around the ignition cylinder
What if I’m getting no volts from the ground would that fix still fix my issue?
Thank you I’m hoping this is my problem too!
I tested the negative and it read full 12.85V
Edit : the problem was the negative connector to the starter was loose at the starter i clipped it with pliers and no more problem
I tried this and it don’t help and my dash now has no power any advice I have a 2000 jeep grand Cherokee limited
Please help. I have 12 v in the second hole to the starter... ground is good 12v. Even the one to the ignition is good. But the first hole where u said it's always hot I'm not getting anything what could I do there? Would it be the red wire that connects to the starter because the wire under the relay hole is red.
Clean the ground on the starter from the corrosion. And it will 100% will start
I have the same issue please help when you get help
Thank you brother! Definitely the same issue
Great explanation, appreciate you making this video 👍👍👍
Bruh i have a 2006 grand cherokee and it just stopped turnin oncoutta no where, makes a weird noise when i try to start but it aint startin
I think you have bridged out the neutral start switch? Can you start the Jeep when it is in R and D now?
Okay this is my problem, but I really need help. I disassembled the fuse box to get to the spark plugs and put everything back together and now my cars not starting saying service 4wd and service electric brake system. It’s not even turning over. So I think it’s the ground like you mentioned but it’s hookup up. :/
This should of been a recall what a load of shi@
Great video. thanks for the valuable info
You can never have enough ground wires...they deteriorate...always check your ground wires...
Saved us with one! Huge help Thank You!
Had a feeling it was the ground.. my friend is having the same problem with their 98.. i keep telling them the ground or positive cables.. need cleaning or traced and cleaned.. or reppaced.. but they just keep cleaning the battery terminals.. but not the other ones
Great job thakns man god bless you
Seems like everyone understands but me, where are we getting these loose wires and what exactly did you snip? What do you mean ground I thought all metal in car was ground…can someone explain to me like I’m 5
Mean bro that worked 4 my jeep diesel thanks my bro
im prayin its the ground wire because i just bought a starter relay yesterday then it worked i came in the house came back out and it wouldnt start again man im sooo pissed 😤
Thank you sooo much for your guidance on this problem . Your fantastic .
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Best video! Thank you Gilford
Thanks your video saved me alot
that fixed my Jeep Liberty Problem .... Bad Ground Mouse in the House
My jeep did the same to me today I’m gonna try it out
I'm having that same issue in my 1996 ZG grand cherokee Laredo. Turn the key, dash lights come on and everything as it should then when I go to crank it over the starter relay clicks but nothing else happens so ill have to buy a multimeter and try this out.
dead battery ???
about to try it on my 08 jeep commander hope it works thank's in advance!
Great video helped a lot thank you 🙏
I have the same problem on my 2010 sentra , I think it does not have a starter relay , it has an IPD module.
It clicks , no start.
I´ll check it out. Great Vid, Thanks a lot.
I'm having this issue and I just replaced the starter and it didn't solve my problem.
This fix doesn't make sense though. If the relay clicks, then you have ground on pin 85 of the relay, and power from the ignition on pin 86. When those are activated, the relay closes the path between 30 (source power) and 87 (output). 87 of this relay goes to the spade connector on the starter.
The thing about this fix is, all you did was connect pin 85 to ground, but if it was a good enough of a ground to click before the fix, then it was a strong enough ground...
I'm not saying that Chrysler doesn't have terrible grounds all over the car, because they do. I just can't make sense of this fix. A relay doesn't click but not work unless it's broken...
Anybody knows the reason for the Bad gnd?
Good question I have the same problem
The only thing that I notice from time to time is that fuse box gets very dirty inside. There might be some kind of air flow issue that goes directly under and in to that box. So humidity, rain, and dirt could be corroding the connections.
About a year ago I changed the relay and the wire going to the starter, that’s what fixed mine.
Now I have to change my ignition switch, because all of my electrical is going wonky. Hopefully that’s what the problem is🤞🏻
I have same problem on 2010 jeep commander, same no crank issues. did a new starter and relay, new battery and same issues.
Your story really is burned out $6 for a new one take your horn relay put it in place for your starter relay and then go buy a new horn relay
Didn't work
I did this today and nothing. I hear the same click when I try starting it. Help
Then continue on to your starter
I am having same problem with my daughter's 06 liberty i tried the ground wire to the relay and it still didn't help
Weird, same problem same solution, must be a common jeep issue
good man, iam gonna try
I just put front struts and upper arm and wheels back on and the 2006 Jeep-Grand Cherokee will not even light up the interior lights, dead as a door nail. 12volts on the battery not sure about amps.
Dude!!!! I have the same problem. Now I now I can try that.
It works! I just did this on my '07 that had the exact same clicking of starter random, no starting issues and this fixed the problem!
So just connect the yellow wire to the fire wall.
I had this issue w my 07 laredo I replaced my ignition switch ($40) and took me 30 min to install it and wala she starts right up!
I thought my battery died, clicking, hard to jump off, got a new battery and still stalls but eventually starts. Help please.
How did you get that box off??
There are 4 tabs along the sides of the lower box. Start with the two in the back by simply using a small, flat screwdriver to release the clips and pull up. Then do the same on the 2 in the front and pull up. The wire harness coming up into the box is tight but you can move it around enough to get to the underside.
Yo gud shit bro! Thanks alot.
The bad ASD (Auto Shut Down) relay will make it do the same thing
I cant see exactly where you put the ground wire i am having the same problem, i hear click but wont start can you help a little more by which wire color or what fuse or relay can wire a new ground, thanks
Thank you!!!
Thx ther going tow mine hope fully that will work