Mazda Skyactiv 2.2 D Engine noise, quick and precise diagnosis.
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- This engine failure is an extreme and rare case caused by negligence regarding oil changes and service intervals. (More about possible cause under main description)
A simple and precise diagnosis of engine noise can be applied to any brand of engine. In this instance, we are dealing with Skyactive 2.2 diesel engine knocking noise.
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In this case, I suspect there was an injector gas leak causing carbon build-up and gather on the oil pump filter( its proper name is Strainer), So the Strainer gets clogged and inhibits lubrication.
To prevent lubrication failures, Mazda introduced software to monitor oil pressure constantly, and if the oil pressure drops below a particular threshold, a warning light gets triggered. At this stage, it is not harmful to the engine. What is dangerous is the negligence of the driver. (often, the vehicle comes for inspection after hundreds of kilometers since the initial malfunction). For the Mazda workshop, it is easy to check at what mileage DTC had been set, available only for dealers.
Prevention: in the case of a warning light, go to the dealer right away, do not delete error codes; it will give the technician a clearer picture.
Prevention with no issue: ask for replacing injector gaskets every 100 thousand km. Cost is incomparably low to the price of any related repair.
Another essential factor is proper engine oil. Other oils not approved by
the manufacturer will not withstand oil dilution, so use genuine oil:
Engine oil for (Europe) Mazda Original Oil Supra DPF 0W-30, Mazda Original Oil Ultra DPF 5W-30, Alternative ACEA C3 0W-30, 5W-30.
Engine oil (Except Europe): Viscosity (SAE) 0W-30, 5W-30 Grade ACEA C3
Australia and New Zealand: Viscosity (SAE) 5W-30 Grade ACEA C1 or JASO DL-1
Regarding wrong oil and not performing an oil change is common practice (oil gets diluted with diesel and the lubrication gets significantly worse, especially at the end of its life). Oil life is dependent on your driving habits and driving distances. If you drive short distances daily, the automatic DPF regeneration is performed more often, so oil increases dilution. That is why Mazda has introduced flexible service and oil change. PCM (Powertrain Control Module) software can monitor driving distances, frequency of DPF regeneration, and other factors contributing to faster deterioration of engine oil and depending on gathered data to inform you when oil change is needed. - Авто та транспорт
Thank you very much my friend for this video.
Just watched most of your videos, great content. Well done
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for great video
Oh my god! I like to buy a second hand Mazda CX5 2.2 skyactive Diesel 175. Since 27 years I drove different Mazda vehicles and I was always very satisfied. The CX 5 would be my first Diesel because I'm looking for more torque to tow my caravan. From up how many km's I must expect a defect like this. Normally I mantain my cars always very good, especially the oil change. I don't go to Mazda garage, because they rip off the customers. I bring my cars to a very good free garage where they can repair all different brands. The owner learned those days in a local Mazda garage.
Your video is very interesting. Thank you for showing it. Greetings from Germany.
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Regarding this particular failure of the engine, it was at approximately 100K km. As I mentioned in the description and here is a quotation "This engine failure is an extreme and rare case caused by negligence regarding oil changes and service intervals.''
Concerning ripping off customers, I'm afraid I have to disagree. As a Mazda authorized dealer, we often have inquiries about matching the price quoted by an independent workshop; we are consistently chosen in such circumstances.
Customers find only the Advantages of servicing their car at Mazda Authorised Workshop; for example, in case of pricy repairs like in my video and even outside the warranty period. As a loyal customer, you would receive the new engine. If you need more examples, write. Greetings
As a Mazda 6 2.2 185 owner (2009) I can say mine is going strong at 210k miles (yes Miles) as our friend said it’s about clockwork maintenance. Oil changes every 5-7k with right oil . I only go to Mazda main dealers. Great video
Thanks. Those R2 engines were very reliable if well maintained, one thing you need to change as prevention is injector washers. The timing chain gets stretched but that is when DTC comes on. Frequent oil change extends the timing chain life and not only.
@@JB_Auto thanks for the feedback glad you think it’s reliable as I’ve just spent a small fortune on a clutch and DMF 😟
@@garysnell47 Well nothing last forever you said 210K miles mileage, it was time for it. If you had VW you would have to replace the DMF 3 times at that mileage😉
I change the oil in mine every 1-2k or every 5th fill. Engine perfect.
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Hello sir i have a metalic noise from top engine do the cam shafts give a horrible noise when they are gone
Thank you for your videos. I find them to be very informative, well explained and helpful. One could never stop learning from these videos. I have a 2015 Mazda 3 2.2 D which I bought certified from a Mazda dealer with 31000kms. Unfortunately it did not come with a service history and the engine has no issues at the present 38000kms. Being mechanically minded I change the oil every 3000 to 4000 kms/yearly using Mazda original Ultra DPF oil and filter. Also, I always monitor the DPF regen before turning off the engine i.e. if I notice that regen is in process I do not turn off the engine but instead take it for a spin using low gears until regen has ended. I never experienced any oil rising/dilution so far. My question is this: having read about issues with these engines do you think I should check the strainer for clogging or the exhaust camshaft for wear after a certain mileage as a preventative maintenance? Or should I stay with just the regular oil changes unless there's anything wrong? In my ownership all I did was re tighten the injector nuts, clean and inspect the intake shutter valve and a pcm update at the dealer as a recall concerning the egr.
Hi, Thank you for your comment. It is excellent practice replacing oil as you do. Extended driving with diluted oil is very harmful to those engines hence further complaints. (For instance, as a result of severely diluted oil is broken oil pump chain.)
Your driving distances are very short since you need to go for an additional spin to finish DPF regeneration.
If you were driving long distances, you wouldn't notice DPF regeneration because it is automatic...
You did not experience oil dilution because, at 4K mileage, it is not noticeable.
Issues with exhaust camshafts were present on early Mazdas CX5 and 6
then after a specific VIN, it has been modified, including rocker arms, turbos, and much more; So we have never replaced the exhaust camshaft on Mazda 3.
A possible issue on the 2015 Mazda 3 would be: Combustion gas leak from the injector gasket/washer, creating carbon deposits and clog the strainer.
The leak of mentioned gas occurs at various mileages, and most cases are at approx. 150K.
PCM constantly monitors changes in oil pressure; if oil pressure drops below a certain threshold, it turns on the oil pressure warning light and a message ''Vehicle inspection Necessary.''
Clogging occurs gradually, and it is not harmful to the engine if fixed at once.
For myself, I would replace injector gaskets/washers (those washers are now modified and last much longer, new part no: SH01-13-H51 silver color)
On the other hand, if you perform regular services at Mazda's authorized dealer, you probably are eligible for free of charge 24/7 Emergency roadside assistance (available in most countries).
Summing up, I would stay with regular oil changes and drive longer distances.
@@JB_Auto Thank you for your clarifications/advice. Indeed, my driving distances are usually around 40kms in rural/urban areas but hardly in traffic conditions and keeping it in 4th gear thus slightly higher revs of approx 2000rpm and with a planned yearly good trip on the motorway. I also read about blown head gasket issues with these engines but I presume these were on early skyactiv diesels on CX5s and 6s. I miss having a water temp gauge so I could monitor what's going on under the bonnet. Other than that I give thumbs up to Mazda engineers for creating such a fine piece of engineering on the entire vehicle.
@@edwardzammit3714 You are welcome. Indeed, the head gasket issues on older vehicles, but it was very rare, for instance, we've replaced only one out of so many sold. And yes Mazda's engineers did a great job, including the appearance of its cars
@akita 1973 Which oil pipe?
@akita 1973 Strainer gets clogged by carbon composite, and therefore problems with oil pressure, other components may get clogged as well therefore you need to check them.
Hi, Thanks for the informative videos. Much appreciated. What kind of diagnostic program do you use if I may ask?
Hi, thanks for watching. In this video I'm using Mazda IDS, You can utilize any high-end diagnostics tools. I never use no name or cheap tools, I was always disappointed. For Mazda or japanese vehicles the best tools are from their geographic location, that's my opinion. 🙂
Hello! Thank you for this video. I just bought Mazda 6 2.2 SkyActiv-D 2016.
After two days, I noticed the same noise and problem with my engine. Is it possible to fix it and is it worthy? :((
Hi, This kid of engine failure is very rare, so you need to be certain that this is the same, in many cases it is just injector making noise, I advise you to make an appointment at dealership, and let them diagnose it, if your car was serviced regularly at Mazda dealer you may be eligible for ''good will''
@@JB_Auto Thanks for the fast reply. Helpful.
Hi jb what causes no negative to injector plus there is a positive
Hey I'm looking into buying the 2021 Mazda 6 2.2 DE Dynamic (Auto)
Can I be pleased adviced on the cars common problems as I'm looking into using it as a delivery car.
Hi, generally speaking, all Diesel engines on Mazda CX5 KF are heavily modified. Modifications began with early models(2013). Since the introduction of the SCR or commonly known AdBlue system, they got rid of soot problems so at this point those cars are much more reliable. Til now we haven't had any issues, that is sad because we have less work😉 but more happy customers though. If your question appears after watching my video or any other, it is related to old models. Check out the description, there is a clear explanation of what it is related to and why. Thanks for the comment.
I'll still walk away from mazda diesel engines. I don't believe mazda makes good diesel engines. There're so many in the scrap yard and I'm adding a 2012 to them.
Please don't buy this Diesel engine, they are shit trust me.
@@tedwoghiren4002 I cant speak for all Mazda diesels, but my 1.5 Skyactiv-D (Jan 2016) runs like a dream. Only problem was a sensor in the exhaust system which Mazda fixed for free outside the 3 yr warranty
@@iADRI99 I cant speak for all Mazda diesels, but my 1.5 Skyactiv-D (Jan 2016) runs like a dream. Only problem was a sensor in the exhaust system which Mazda fixed for free outside the 3 yr warranty
Hello how do you access turbo on mazda6 2.2skyactiv-d to get to the sensor with the blue wire
Remove the inlet pipe for the bigger turbo, you may need to remove the battery and you should get good access to the wiring of that temp. sensor, if you want to replace it, you will need SST which is a 14mm socket similar to O2 sensors.
What is a sharp higher pitched metallic noise at startup from cold only for less than 1 second? Normal driving is extremely quiet. 2.2 diesel 2014 after camshaft issues?
Sounds like something is seizing caused by lubrication problems, I'm just guessing. It is not a common problem.
I have mazda 6 2015 with same rattling noise and lost of power, will it still be an injection problem
You need to check it, that kind of noise could be an injector as well. The noise because of broken pistons as You've seen in the video is extremely rare, one case in 12 years working with Mazda. You can use injector values for diagnosis, those I showed in the video, if the correction is high then it can make a similar noise to the one on the video.
Здравствуйте мастер, вопрос у меня к вам как правильно затягивать форсунки mazda 6 2.2 skyaktiv?
Check out the description under that video.
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HI
Could you tell me the tightening torque of the connecting rod caps and the crankshaft?
best regards
Connecting rod 30Nm plus 90 degree, crankshaft and here you mean about lower cylinder block: step 1: 40Nm , 2: Loosen bolts, 3 30Nm 4: 60 degree then smaller bots to 25Nm
This is for 2013 model year, you should check them against VIN because it could be different tightening torque.
HI
thank you very much
Hello jb what can be causing bubbles in radiator. It's started when the air went cold and then found out the water was low no lights on or overheating. The water temperature is between 80c to 92c. Could it be egr cooler or headgasket
Hi, most likely head gasket, we have never had problem with EGR cooler, but ofcourse you should check both.
It probably has a leak in the cooling system and the bypass pipe is usually the part that fails you will have to change that to an aluminum pipe
Hi, I think I have same problem. Can you please tell me what software/program do you use to stop injection per cylinder? Thanks
This is Mazda IDS but you can use any other which is equipped with that simulation function. You can also disconnect each connector of the injector physically it will give you the same result.
@@JB_Auto do you have WhatsApp? Can I send you a video tomorrow? Thanks
@@w202aam I don't but why don't you post on youtube and send me a link?
@@JB_Auto please watch. Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks
Hi, I've seen the video. You claim that the noise is getting louder while the engine is hot that may indicate low oil pressure so check that first. While you disconnected connectors of each injector the noise seems to disappear at the first one, not quite sure. I suggest checking oil pressure, DTC's, checking injector values to exclude injector fault, as in my video.
You should utilize a good tester to disconnect injectors because after disconnecting the injector physically you need to re-start the engine to get it running properly( you will have smoother transition using a tester, and therefore clearer picture) You can also raise RPM when disconnecting the injector to emphasize the noise, I noticed it gets louder while higher RPM.
Olá esse
Motor é o mesmo do Mitsubishi Outlander 2.2 177hp? O meu Outlander tem esse mesmo ruído .😢
You will find similar construction in the Mitsubishi Outlander there are also two chains, the timing chain and the oil pump chain. Therefore you can apply the same way of diagnosis as on video. The engine is not the same.
Can the sump be removed on cx5 with engine still in the vehicle.
Yes, you can remove it with the engine in the car.
Hello, thank you for your nice videos. I have a few questions. I own Mazda cx5 2014, which has 205.000km. I change oil every 10.000km, clean strainer, change injector washers,...and car runs ok.
I like to know when is good time to change timing chain, are there any signs of getting bad? Some people say, that small oil pump chain is problem is this true?
I saw that new injector washers are silver, are they better than old one? How much you tighten this washers in manual I read 2Nm and then loose a bit.
And last one, for now I just clean oil strainer (with small brush and cleaning spray). Is it possible to replace strainer without removing oil pump (just loose the bolts), I am little scary removing oil pump ;).
Thank you! Best Regards, Samo
Timing chain replacement only when DTC appears. Oil pump chain: old models where oil dilution is severe at most of oil replacements ( severe oil dilution causes greater friction damaging oil pump chain guide, and therefore chain snaps. Genuine silver gaskets are modified and we do not have any problem with them if properly tightened.
It is not possible to replace oil strainer without removal of oil pump, U can use carburetor cleaner to remove carbon from strainer, do not forget to flush engine after that. Tightening torque for injectors is: 2Nm left nut, then release left nut 90 degree, tighten right nut to 2 Nm, then tighten right nut 240 degrees.
@@JB_Auto Hello, thank you a lot. What you mean with flush engine. When I clean strainer, I clean strainer and oil pan and put things together ;).
Is it possible to somehow check the oil pump chain, when removing oil pan / oil pump?
I watched your video about removing oil pump and not seems so hard :), is there anything I must take care of?
Best Regards, Samo
@@samostraser8924 You are welcome to Flush the engine with oil and a special liquid, called engine flush🙂 this is to clean the remaining carbon composite spread all over the lubrication system. You can check the oil pump chain guide by compressing it and inspecting its surface, if deep damages replace the sprockets chain and the guide.
To remove the oil pump you need to have a special tool( oil pump sprocket holding tool), on certain vehicles to remove the oil pump, you need to remove the timing chain, but if under inspection damage to the chain guide found, You will need to remove the timing chain anyway.
@@JB_Auto ok thanks again. So its not so easy oil pump removing 🥴, is there any universal tool or just from Mazda? Which flushing cleaner do you use? Regards, Samo
It is easy, the tool you need is from Mazda, the purpose is to counter hold balancer unit while you loosen the oil pump driven sprocket, I have loosened that without the tool ( it was before we received the tool, I do not remember how though), try to come up with something which will function as a counter hold.
For flushing, You can use commonly available" Engine Flush"
Hi. Please show how to install Catch Can
Hi, Sorry but we do not install them on any car, so I do not have the possibility.
@@JB_Auto OK. thank you
Great engine for driving, powerfully and smooth, but unfortunately with a lot of problems and mistakes, avoid it. On my Mazda, the Turbo went after 226,000 km due to a construction error that Mazda didn't recall. I'm very disappointed in Mazda as a car manufacturer.
I partly agree with your opinion, especially about the first diesel engines, they had a few issues. But in terms of petrol engines, Mazda is one of the top manufacturers, you should try 2.5 Skyactiv G, another good engine Skyactive X this one is not very powerful though. New engines coming soon, wait for it 🙂
@@JB_AutoI agree with you, my dissatisfaction is not with the quality of the Mazda engines but with Mazda's attitude towards customers, if some component has malfunction, then company like Mazda makes a recall and fixes the error. What happened to me sooner or later awaits all owners of 2.2D Skyactiv engines and will cost allot.
My car is making a tap noise. Mazda 6. 2,2D. I plus there seems to be leaks of diesel. What should I do
Hi, the tapping noise needs to be diagnosed, you can try the way I've done it as on video, fuel leaks needs to be traced, check your injectors if tightened properly, I had cases where injector was making tap sound plus leaking, that was due to improper tightening torque...
When this happens the repair cost is higher than the car I suppose?
If that happens recommended engine replacement and if the vehicle is old costs exceed the value of the car. Luckily it is very rare and as in this case caused by negligence, like replacement of oil, clogged oil strainer, and wrong repair. Otherwise, I never heard of a similar problem.
Could this be caused by changing the oil too late or with the wrong type?
Exactly, and in this case, I suspect there was an injector gas leak causing carbon to gather on the oil pump filter( its proper name is Strainer), So the Strainer gets clogged and inhibits lubrication. Therefore the previous workshop had replaced connecting rod bearings.
Regarding wrong oil and not performing an oil change is common practice (oil gets diluted with diesel and the lubrication gets significantly worse, especially at the end of its life)
Hi. I have updated the description so that you will find a better answer to your question up there.
@@JB_Auto hey! I had the same issue approximately 6 months ago. My injector washers were blown, actually 3 of them, and this led to carbon build up in the stainer. Just wanted to confirm the reason. Luckily, mine was solved in time, didnt have issues with the stainer since.
although, after changing the injector washers my injector holders broke, and in the morning the car didnt start suddenly. since changing them, my consumption is around 5-6 litres/100km.
The mechanics dealt with this kind of problem recommended changing the injector washers regurarly, and changing oil every 10000kms. In addition, they recommend getting rid of DPF system, and changing oil pump chain. Early 2.2 skyactive-Diesels have problem with oil the pump chain breaking. Altough, thex fixed this issue with the facelift in 2017.
@@davidlehrreich3946 Hi. the injector holders had to be overtightened; we remove them often on a single vehicle and never had an issue with them.
If it comes to DPF on the Skyactiv engine, no issues as well. Getting rid of it only makes sense if you disable DPF in Power Train Control Module software. Oil pump chain gets broken due to oil intervals replacement not correct and heavily diluted engine oil, and that is because of frequent automatic regeneration of DPF (read: customer drives short distances and that is why frequent regeneration)
I agree with removing both DPF and software, and then we dispose of the oil dilution problem.
Why don't u service your car it's stuffed now
Thats ford bullshyt. 💯👎
actually this engine is purely designed and developed by Mazda. Ford had nothing to do with this engine.
It's Mazda bs..mazda diesels suck di ck.
Hello boss, what is the model number of this engine injector? Thanks!你好老板，请问这款发动机喷油器型号多少？谢谢！