Cancelled Monstera | Victims of the Downfall of a Rare Plant CRAZE
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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Let's cancel some plants and trigger some people.... J/K this hot take is for entertainment purposes only.
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For those of you that needed that trigger warning and still about to comment... Move along✌We are not your people😈
I haven’t had to block anyone yet so I’ve got to say I’m proud
The thai con is my favorite monstera . I never had one rot on me. I paid over 200 for a baby and sold a huge top cutting from it for 275 the pot it was 30 so i broke even on the plant lol. I made 6 more plants in less then a year. I grow them outside. I love the fact they dont revert. I like how they stay on the ground and don't try to climb. Once i cut the top cutting off a big plant i usually get 4 big nodes and 4 more plants. I plant to sell the big ones now for 100 each the plant has never failed me. but
That’s awesome! Sounds like you got a plant with really great genes and it’s super awesome that you’re sharing it so other can also have a good experience 🫶🏻✨🪴❤️
You lucky
It's so awesome to see these plants becoming more affordable again, I hate that plants became status symbols. Although albos are still quite expensive in Australia, given how common they are. Great vid!
Omg Australia is so much more intense than out here from what I’ve heard. It’s cool right now that you can get almost anything but idk if it will last… carpe diem!
I live for these canceled videos
Omg don’t encourage me… I could make so many lol
Girl do it! They’re so much fun! Lol
Saaaaame 😬
Well now I guess I have no excuse… who’s next?
I vote Tradescantia and Algeo Pictum Tricolorrr 😭😭😂😂
YOUR LONGISSIMILOBUM JUST GETS ME EVERY TIME. I cannot!
It’s a fave for sure ✨🪴❤️
Another thing about Thai Con is that, apparently, there is a better, tougher Thai Con that existed before the plant boom and the new TC Thais are much more sensitive and slow growing. This is from Kaylee Ellen and she tends to be correct.
The Costa Farms situation was honestly one of the most interesting part of houseplant culture maybe ever. The backlash was very entertaining!
I’ve heard the same thing! And I agree that there was a lot about that whole situation that was entertaining
There can definitely be bad batches out there, but I don't think there is a time-line for when thais were hardy. Imo, it's a way for plant peeps to say, "I had a Thai before it was cool. "
The tc babies coming from a particular grower in tx are 🔥. Mine that I've been growing for 6 months is hardy af, fast growing, already fenestrated and has killer sectoral variegation. I bought it as freshly variegated tc in moss. All that to say, "new tcs are bad" is just not true.
@@plantypittsburgh Did you buy locally or online? I would be interested because I still don't have one myself!
And thats probably right. I think Costa farms got a bad batch or something.
What happens a lot with industrial scale TC is that the time for real quality control testing just isn’t taken. Plants are churned out so fast that specimens with bad genes aren’t culled. I’m sure that’s what happened somewhere along the line with Thais, although judging by some of the soil I’ve seen costa plants come in, it would not shock me if the issue with their Thais was that they didn’t like the standard costa soil mix and either no one thought of that or they couldn’t logistically accommodate that or it was too expensive. I grow all of my monsteras in almost straight orchid bark and that’s way more expensive than a bag of potting soil. Just a thought.
I can confirm that older stock is super easy to grow. Mine was purchased about 13 years ago, over-grew my space. I've top cut it and have air layered the mother plant many times. Never had any rot. I have no experience with cloned plants, but I have heard there are issues.
I had to laugh at the crazy prices I was seeing for the 'rare' or 'trendy' plants. I remember years ago you might find a variegated monstera at Home Depot with a tag 'Tropical Plant'. And the famed 'Philodendron Pink Princess' was sold in the nurseries in the 70's as an annual/houseplant filler for containers. That particular plant fell out of favor because it was so unstable and people realized it didn't maintain the pink.
Seriously!
About seven years ago I bought a 3 foot four vine monstera albo for £20 because it had some brown on it.
Also I can't stop watching Your anthurium longissimilobum 😍 I recently bought one because of You 😁💚 Have a great day 🍀
They are really great plants, I hope you enjoy it! They really need good airflow though ✨🪴❤️
I'm so glad I found this channel, I wanted to hear from plant collectors before it became a thing to do during the pandemic. So they can share their wisdom, not hype. 🙌
Thank you! I made this channel bc I don’t have any IRL plant friends to chat about this stuff with. I’m glad you’re here!
Honestly I regret having the amount of houseplants that I do.
I have a completely empty yard and it has all the sun in the world. I just ordered like $1k worth of roses and daylillies.
I am building a cottage garden out front and I seem to not have time for my inside plants.
Your garden plans sound awesome! If you have extra houseplants you’re not loving, I’m sure your could sell them in your local group. I did the same a few years ago and way over committed to house plants and I met a lot of really nice people finding them new homes.
I have a baby Thai Constellation, and an Albo Deliciosa cutting. I've had both since some time in February... the Thai is growing beautifully and the Albo has done almost nothing. I've been treating them the same.
My albos haven’t been growing much either… I think it’s the June gloom
What is June gloom?@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet
June Gloom is the phenomenon in San Diego California where I live that the entire month of June is cloudy and gloomy from the marine layer. We also get the same thing in May and so we call it May Gray. We’ve had the cloudiest spring this year in almost 25 years. It is definitely effecting the growth of my plants!
I find the concept of those videos very dumb yet I like them. Well done.
I find most of those Monsteras have settled to their right place. Being rare and expensive is not always a good thing.
M. siltepecana is a pothos tier reliable, unkillable houseplant, it deserve a little more coverage but at least everyone who want it can have it now. I gifted one to my local botanical garden and they are fond of it and are using it as a ground cover in the aroid section because it grow fast and lighten up the whole greenhouse with the silver color.
Same for esqueleto, it's easy, it grow fast, it deserve to be cheap and easy to find. It also take less space than a deliciosa because the petioles are growing upright. It's just a better version of the notadansonii everyone it growing at home.
Variegated peru and adansonii are a nightmare to grow, they deserve to be in the burning garbage can of unreliable plants. Burn in peace.
Burn in peace… I like that
OMG!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I almost spit out💦💦💦my drink in laughter when you said "Node as a "Freebie Add-on" @19:28
Hahahaha it is rather comical that this is the situation but it is what it is
Definitely agree on thai constellation being cancelled. I saw two booths selling them at a farmer's market. One was priced at $150 and the other was $85. I left them there and purchased a $15 white princess philodendron that had two plants in the pot. Now I only purchase plants I love and never spend over $50.
The money I could have saved if I’d only adopted this mentality sooner ❤️
That’s insane. I got mine for 50 bucks. I still love it as a big filler plant but would never pay that much for one
I think what I like the best about these videos is that it teaches us newer collectors not to break the bank on a single plant and to just buy what you like. I like Siltepecana as a juvenile, so I’m not mad about the double digits I paid for it. I find obliqua amazing, but I can do without till the price is right.
Thanks! I’m glad you find them helpful
I got a oblique node for 20$ an grew it out.
Dare i say that monstera aurea is also on the verge of getting cancelled as their yellow variegation is extra sensitive and tend go crisp up and brown off 😢
I’m having the worst time with mine rn ugh… I still see large forms go for a bit of money but I think you’re generally right about this ✨🪴❤️
I’m enjoying when you say “it’s so cancelled” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m so glad!
I love how you just cancelled every single monstera variety! Living for these series
Thank you! They are fun
Thanks for all of this information, it was very helpful! Unfortunately I just purchased a baby Thai for $85 😢 praying for it! It does have a small brown spot on one of the leaves, so sad about it.
I honestly never thought it would happen but we are DROWNING in Thai cons!!😅🤦🏻♀️ The 4 inch pots of them are alllll over the place..online AND in local nurseries and shops! What a ridiculous ride😂
The irony is that Thai Cons are awfully fickle plants! They’re so hit and miss that skill/know how has nothing to do with their survival. It’s strictly down to genetics and conditions
@@tiffanyi5645I hate how when the plant community can finally enjoy the thai constellations being more common, it just so happens to be from a shitty tissue culture batch that's much weaker.
This 👍🏻
Love seeing so many videos from you lately ❤️👍
Yay! Thank you!
Your into was truly EVERYTHING. ❤
Haha, thanks!
Gurl, you look amazing! I love this kind of videos 💚 I'm one of those who had to collect every single variety of Monstera. My Siltepecana is finally fenestrating, and I'm starting to fall in love with her again 😍 Same thing about my Dubia.
Guess I've been lucky with my Thai Con so far, cause she's healthy and beautiful 🥰 She is slow growing, but I love that about her. 4 leaves in a year! Gives me plenty of time to plan out her next location in my living room for when she gets bigger
Btw, the Epipremnoides got renamed to Esqueleto. Karstenianum got renamed to Peru
Thank you! Sounds like you’re the real monstera guru here!
Nah, I'm just a big geek, haha! It takes patience to grow large and lush monsteras, and I think that's one of the reasons why most people are giving up on them. Can't blame them, I feel like I'm done with several of them myself
That’s fair! I really like mine but June gloom and may gray are killing them with inadequate light. None of mine have grown like at all in months. Hopefully the sunshine keeps coming!
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Fingers crossed for some nicer weather!
Finally someone who's, like me, don't care to block people who are negative Even if it is just 1 time!
The list of blocked people on my Facebook is so long 😅😂
Yeah the comment section on my Pink Princess video got a little out of hand… the threshold for me to block someone is still pretty high but some folks don’t realize that YT comments aren’t an anonymous abyss… YT creators have an app that organizes comments with newest first. I see them all! Don’t write anything here you wouldn’t say to my face, lol. You get it 😘
Really enjoying your videos! 💖 I still totes want a variegated standleyana though, not gonna lie.
I do like them… I wish mine had more color though! Make them happy and they really do shine
I'm so happy that the Thai Con got cancelled. Just bought two babyplants for 20€ each and they may be slow growing but every new leaf fills me with pure joy. And I had no problem with rot so far. ☺
Wow you look gorgeous!! I hope you go out to someplace fun. Loved the video ❤
Thank you so much!!
I got a thai for 25 DOLLARS on a sale post locally!!!!!!!
That’s a great deal!
From North Italy. I' m very glad that i can wacht again your videos. Here in Italy there are a little comunity Who loves aroids. But only in south Italy they can grow well. Sorry for my english. Thank you for your videos
Thank you 🫶🏻✨🪴❤️
Its crazy. I have a massive thai. Can't imagine how people are going to be handling this type of plant in a year when theirs get so massive like mine.
Can you sell a node to me when you prune it? Thanks
They’re going to try and sell them lol
😂😂😝
@@Maremare680 probably not.
Oh man, my favorite red head UA-camr got me all messed up and in my feelings! Monstera are my Pokémon and you got me feeling like I got caught drinking a Bud Lite at Target🥺
Too funny. I’m glad I was late to the exotic plant craze party. I’m happy with what I paid for my collection.
I honestly wouldn’t have a siltepecana or Peru if they weren’t categorized as Monstera. I do have to say, the El Salvador is impressive and stays silver as it sizes up. I think I paid $5-$10 for each cutting though.
I LOVE my Kunzo tri color. The plant is just spectacular, but not a beginner imo. I can see why all the albo adansonii fell off. The browning white looks awful and the variegation so unstable.
Standleyana is another that I would not have had if it weren’t “Monstera”, but it’s actually one of my favorites now as it’s grown. I’ve got some pretty nice variegation, so that helps, and pretty much covers any white wizard et al vibes I might have had.
Not sure how you can hate on the unicorn in a breeding program, Obliqua Peru. My $35 acquisition is now two and kicks butt in house hold humanity. It’s proof of Monstera whisperer status!😎
Really enjoy you in this content format. Look forward to the next one. Oh! Find Jimmy for me! Tell me this ain’t why he quit….
Omg thank you for such a thoughtful comment! Kunzo tricolor has been on my list for so long… my friend is supposed to send me one so we’ll see how that goes. I do like the monstera obliqua and if I ever have a big conservatory I’ll probably get one.
Jimmy is around. He has a lil girlfriend now and they have a travel channel. It’s Jimmyandbabstravel. I’m sure he’d love if you followed him over there!
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Thanks for the info, I miss Jimmy too.
Esqueleto is kind of easy as you said, the thing about them is that they are very slow growers compared to an adansonii, which is probably a put off for a lot of people. My top cutting I made of the plant I bought was rooting for at least 5 months before it started growing. Takes over a month for a new leaf to start unfurling as well (in my experience). It's a lovely plant though if you got the patience - I think it's great that it became more accessible :)
Great information! Thank you so much!
This is really interesting! I am in the UK and a lot of these plants are still very desirable, yes the price has dropped on all of them, but that seems to be the same throughout most genus.
Have plant prices in the UK gone down slower than the rest of Europe because of Brexit at
all?
I don’t particularly care for the look of most variegated Monstera.
This is excellent from a financial standpoint 🤣
Love your trigger warning at the beginning! Classic! You're right about quite a few of these, I have a Siltepecana and Peru, but I got them at big box stores. There was no way I was going to pay hundreds of dollars. I will admit I'm cheap and won't pay more than $50 for a plant. 😊💚. I like to wait and have them come down in price. New Subbie!
Welcome! I’m so glad to have you ✨🪴❤️
Girl I WISH I hadn’t gone so overboard and overdone it so hard in 2021 specifically but I guess we are all on our own journey. Can’t dwell on it too much!
My siltepecana grew one meter in less than 6 months from a smaller baby plant. It makes a leaf per week and has already fenestrated, works for me
Great vid😂
I was one of those that bought the $600 Thai, split it with my sis. It is a monster and obnoxious in my tiny space🤦🏾♀️. I will admit it was finicky at first but once established (after splitting) it's perfect. I want to split it again and try pon, seems to grow really well it that medium.
Would I buy another Thai this size heck no. Do I regret buying it no.😂
I just purchased my first two tiny baby Thais last week and I'm so emotionally attached to them so I hope I can keep them alive. I didn't think I'd ever actually get one because they're expensive and I know they can be pretty difficult plants, but they were a good price at a local rare plant market, so I figured it was worth it to buy them to try it out
Sending you alllll the good planty vibes 🪴❤️✨
same I ordered mine, it'll arrive in a few days, I fell in love with them they're so stunning imo, I really hope I'll be able to keep it happy.. but I'll definitely be a helicopter parent and will always keep my hydrogen peroxide close lol, let's hope we'll both be successful!
Just don't overthink it, they aren't that difficult The Thai Con is one of the easiest plants in my collection. I just water it around every 10 days (depending on season) and it gives like 1 leaf every month. Just don't overwater it and don't let it in full sun and everything should be fine 👌
You are probably one of the lucky ones who got one of the ones with good genes… unfortunately there are plants out there from different batches that are not as robust as others and that do have chronic issues with rot. Thais are super hit or miss and it’s all dependent on the luck of the draw with the genes. Sending good planty vibes to all the new Thai parents that their babies flourish!
Another random thing-I was at Vons in San Diego the other day, and my local Vons has really upped their plant game since 2019…but I saw a $14 _Monstera deliciosa_ with the early signs of variegation happening. It’s obviously a juvenile plant, maybe had 6 large leaves and the whole vibe was maybe 1-2’ total length. But I was shocked nobody took it yet, with the initial signs of variegation, too. All of the leaves had little streaks and flecks of white & yellow and the unopened, newer ones were clearly a minty/lighter green shade. I may go back and get it now! $14 is kind of a steal especially if it’s a variegate.
Go get it!
I just got 10 obliqua nodes for $40! I have an older plant and it’s an easy grower. The trick is to keep it vertical so the runners don’t come out. They may be cancelled, but I’m going to grow a big pot of it!
I think they’re so cool though. If I had room I’d have one!
Syndey Plant Guy here on UA-cam has a great mature monstera dubia that makes me want to try growing it. Also what is the T shaped plant to the left of you? It's so pretty.
Sydney plant guy is a warlock that’s the only explanation for any of that madness that goes on on his channel 🤣
He has a fenestrated siltepecana to 😂
It’s an anthurium Longissimilobum ✨🪴❤️
Have u heard if phillodendron delinskii or as it was sold to me from exuagenera, delsinkii.
It's a stunning phillodendron similar to the a. Longissimilobum. Mine is climbing up a pole and sizing up very nicely. Give it a look when u get a chance. Gorgous plant
I haven’t but I’ll have to take a look!
Amazing people send you nasty comments. Lol. Your collection and knowledge is amazing also.
Thank you! The comments section on the PPP video got a little out of control so now I have to have these disclaimers
Ahhh. I just bought a Thai con as it was finally within my budget. It was still a small plant but it had 5 leaves and stunning variegation for $80. It just put out its first leaf in my care and it has 2 fenestrations 🤩 I’ve only had it a few weeks, but not trouble whatsoever so far. Hope it stays that way 😅
Sending good vibes your way!
i remember when the obliqua was going for over 500 dollars (as a runner node) and it’s so funny because i can buy a full plant for a fifth of that price. im really glad that they went down in price because i might get one eventually
I hope you do! They are cool
I do love my Thai Con, BUT~ it was a total asshole to grow... constant root rot, it was such a pain!! It's now super stable, but I still don't have a significant amount of mature leaves, so no idea how I'll feel about it once it's insanely large, lol.
Makeup hair outfit on point 🔥
Thank you! That means a lot to this 34 year old lady ✨🪴❤️🫶🏻
My monstera Peru variegated keeps getting brown tips and yet is in the best lighting (like it regular version). Yet my regular M. Peru looks amazing and has been growing rapidly for two years now.
I’m so sorry, that’s got to be a little annoying!
I can’t believe how quickly so many plants come down in price. There are plants that I paid triple digits for a year ago that you can find for little more than a Pothos now. It’s a lesson in patience.
I have 3 Thais, all rehabs at some point dt root rot. What an emotional roller coaster. But, they are my favorite plants- more so than my Albos. They are so beautiful and if you can get the care down are a gem of a plant. I would never buy another tiny tc anything. And tc TC are everywhere. It seems insane to me to add on the fact that tiny tc plants are hard, on top of TC being tricky anyway. I think the price has come down some but in my area at least they are very much in demand. Especially the bigger plants and cuttings. Monstera Aurea is the new TC/ Albo. I love MD varieties most of all my plants, even my rare and expensive ones.
Facts
I love your content. So honest 😆
Thank you!
Monstera obliqua peru, the chip bag of the plant world. All you're paying for is air.
Love the video!! So true except the Thai con. Super easy. It’s my fool proof plant. I cloned the hell out of mine. Mine is not TC.
So you are one of the lucky ones who got a Thai with good genes. They are really hit or miss and unfortunately I stand by cancelling them because of the ones with bad genes ruining their reputation. It’s really night and day with them. I’d love to get a robust one some time but it’s so hit or miss I’m not sure I have the energy to take the chance, lol!
I see people loving their esqueleto and putting it on wishlists pretty often! Even popular UA-camrs, like wildfern and harli G. But they are definitely cheap now!
They are cool you just don’t see them around as much anymore being sold though
"Pretty in green" just did a video on the obliqua. Was interesting.
I saved it to watch later when it came out and I just haven’t got to it yet but their PSS video was pretty good too
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet what is the PSS? 🤣
Philodendron Spiritus Sancti!
I see established obliqua in poles on marketplace for 50 bucks and still nobody buys. I had 3 thai cons (only have a huge one now) and they were awesome. Even if I keep my big mama at the darkest, less humid place, she still gives new leaves. She is my most favorite. My esqueleto for some reason keep having yellow spots and dead old leaves but she also gives me new leaves every 2 weeks. My albo keeps dropping older leaves, maybe bcz of too much white marble pattern. I still like her but she gives me anxiety
Thais with good genes should be worth their weight in gold! That’s awesome!
Man the obliqua really is fully cancelled, it’s so wild how fast that happened too
the local nursery by me sells 4" pot thai cons for $50 CAD. I got my first one a couple weeks ago :)
Wow, great intro, I'm triggered to watch more and put likes on all of the videos.
By all means please do 🫶🏻✨🪴❤️
True talk! In my opinion though, if I were to compare Siltepecana and standleyana, I think the latter is the odd stepchild! It looks so unusual for a Monstera. Almost… bland. At least, the plain standard green form. They’re just like straight almost rectangular leaves…? Idk. They’re cool but would I buy one? Meh. I would probably buy a siltepecana and grow it up a tree outside though. They have some leaf interest lol
I think facts were stated here
Thai Constellation is super easy! Not sure what America tissue culture version is. In Australia Thai Constellation is so easy that i have like 8 cuttings and the leaves is 60cm big
Yeah I think you’re on to something about American Thais… sometimes you hear about people getting robust ones but all of ours now are from giant TC flasks. Buying one from a nursery that’s been around since before the plant boom is the way to go!
I have had two thai constellations and BOTH rotted. One I bought, repotted the next day, and noticed it had rot but just couldn't stop it. The second one I caused the rot myself by under watering and then I over watered it. :face palm: It was #1 on my wishlist but I'm over it.
I’m so sorry that happened
side note, the Siltepecana you pictured looks like an el Salvador cultivar vs just the bog standard Siltepecana. They don't lose the silver as they mature like the bog standard ones, both still cool but leggy as f***
I van told in Canada Monstera Thai are pretty high still now... A cutting is around 85+$ CAD...
I've seen so many adansoniis and I still can't see the difference between the tricolor or just an albo so honestly I'm happy you can find these for so cheap
Tricolor has mint and also, the white can be cream and/or bright white.
@@richardr5878 thanks! Its pretty but not enough to make a difference in price for me haha
Japanese tricolor is also probably a wide form adansonnii, the albo is the standard more narrow form I believe
I am here for this. The only thing missing is you sipping tea 😂
I thought about that but I’ve discovered that drinking noises sound absolutely atrocious in the video so I don’t do that… I tried to film like “coffee and plant talk” type videos when I first started and it lets just say it was a failure haha
I agree. The Siltipecena doesn't give monstera vibes. But i think they're really pretty. 3:27
beautiful anthurium 🥰🥰
I think adansonii are pretty easy, I have a regular and two different types of variegation and they don't stop growing. I keep chopping my green and giving away like 3 foot vines of it. But I seem to have pretty good luck just growing a lot of plants in my regular Chicago condo with some grow lights without trying too hard. And I know people still love the variegated deliciosa but I have an aurea and It drives me nuts. Grows a half moon, then a full green, then kills of the aurea side of the half moon, and does this over and over again. My Thai looks great and just keeps getting bigger. I'd guess that if you have an older Thai it's probably more hardy. I got mine a couple years ago from a local gal who propagated her mother plant that was already bigger and older. The new ones are like half and full moon variegated and seem more delicate overall. I did finally decide to try an obliqua since the prices are down and it isn't dying in my dining room. It still has its original leaves but aside from that it just grows like six inches of runner a week. But definitely most of those other monstera you mentioned are almost absent in the stores. There is a local nursery that still has leftovers of standleyana and a few others and they refuse to lower the price even though they have been there for over a year.
That’s awesome that so much is doing so well for you! ✨🪴❤️
What is the name of that plant next to your right??. It looks like a T.
Anthurium Longissimilobum
Your intro is hysterical (coming from a gen xer).
Solidarity
Whew!!! I can breath again. My Albo has been spared!!
Albos are a classic, I don’t think they’re ever going out of style.
😂 I still want an esqueleto. But I have no place for it and they are still at least 50-100 bucks in Australia
They are cool if you’ve got the space!
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Yessssss 1:24 mama u go girl tell those people 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So much fun!!
Some growers are still selling the aurea for like $80 😂 6:01
Where is your strawberry shake?
She just got moved out of frame bc I filmed something else that day that made sense to have more anthurium as the set dressing… that should come out in a couple weeks
Is anyone still wants a Thai orange lake nursery has em fairly cheap. $25-$40 i think.
Great tip!
ZERO CHANCES ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My nursery is selling a lightly variegated standeleyana in about a 6in pot for $80 still
That’s a little delusional haha
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreetoh ya this nursery is, they are still trying to sell pink princess philodendron for $100 still 😂
Bahahahahhahaha oh no, I hope no one falls for that
I don’t agree with some of your opinion about some plants. Just because of some sellers are not selling them anymore, doesn’t mean they are cancelled or unpopular. Can’t make judgement based on what you think. Different people like different plants.
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4:19 i have one a aurea and i dont love here anymore lol
@sydneyplantguy has a pretty mature dubia and mine is also growing like weed and I am confident to get it to it's mature form. I find it quite easy to grow tbh. Give it a mosspole and you're good to go.
I wonder if it’s something about conditions up here because even the one at our botanical garden growing up a huge wall in a conservatory isn’t fully mature, just starting to have a few hole even though it’s at the top of the wall…
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet
That’s for sure. Conditions variate from location to location. I live in Germany and I put mine on a mosspole and as soon as it started to root into the pole I started to fertalize as it weekly with a mineral/unorganic fertalizer. So basically with every watering and I only ever water through the mosspole and it‘s doing just great. I keep my temperature at least at 20 C (68 F) and relative air humidity of at least 55%. I placed it right in front of a south facing window.
These are my stats just in case it helps anyone.
And honestly it became one of my favourites. I find it’s ability to change so drasticly from juvenile to mature so very interesting and unique. It‘s everything.
That’s awesome!
Just want a M. peru for the texture
They are very unique
Canceled and coming down in price are very different Me I'm happy prices are coming down , because some prices were out of wack anyway, it's not a bad thing .
Blame the algorithm for loving that word lol
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awesome intro ^_^
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I only like the M. Deliciosa and I don’t like variegated version 😘
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I get Thai cons for 10 bux.
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Thaicon cancelled? Are you kidding? It sells like hot cakes here. I never had a single one rot! And they are in hydroponics. Maybe make a disclaimer before video that you are talking about US market? Because in Europe its completelt different story, and you saying with such confidence sounds like it pertains to the whole world. As for price You cand buy a 5 leaf thai 30-50 cm leaves for 200-250 usd.
Fair enough… I think possibly the American Thais and the European Thais could be coming from different distributors because with Thais it’s always either they’re rotting uncontrollably or they’re amazing and robust. I think that Walmart has also been carrying Thais out here and between those and the Etsy tissue culture Thais for $20 or $30 bucks, the market here has crashed. I’m surprised that Europe has had a similar trajectory. I usually do try to give that geographical disclaimer but about 96% of my audience is in the US and Canada so sometimes I forget…
Thank you for limiting the disclaimers 😊
They can be so repetitive.
And when you think about it, disclaimers are intended to keep a small number of people who get easily annoyed or confused from getting less annoyed or confused.
But like… most of those people are going to be one or the other (or both) regardless.
Context clues were here… I love the way you speak but I doubt anyone would be surprised that you’re in California and you did clarify Costa is in North America and you clearly understand the market here.
Love that you don’t cater to new plant people, but I completely believe they could benefit from this content. I did when you first started 🙌🙌
I still do 😊
It definitely seems like some Thais are destined to rot. I also think the fact that new plant people are drawn to them doesn’t help their reputation. That’s because plants don’t follow the same logic of other purchases where paying more can reasonably equate to a better experience.
It seems like when plants are more expensive, more risk is likely involved because the expensive plants aren’t plentiful for a reason (a lot of the time) 🤷♀️
Here I go with disclaimers and caveats 😂
I like challenging plants that can be figured out but it takes time for sure. Videos like this will save a lot of people a lot of time (and money).
The plant community is so lucky to have you.
Wow, what a nice thing to say! Really good points about how newbies being drawn to Thais could hurt their reputation, same with the higher prices on plants not equating to a better experience like most other things in life.
Appreciate your point of view!
I'm among the people who love these types of videos! I hope the weirder monstera get introduced into the market soon, I find them much more interesting than variegated deliciosa. Also just an fyi, the Monstera Peru doesn't fenestrate, it's the pinnatipartita that you're thinking of. Which I would also say is cancelled because everybody wanted it for the mature fenestrations, but it took so long to produce those splits.
Why do I feel like Ive seen Peru’s with little holes in them… maybe I dreamed that?
I like making these videos. They are really fun!
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet The pinnatipartita never gets holes, so maybe what you saw was a peru then? But I've seriously never seen any with fenestrations and I've looked. I wish it did fenestrate though
I just googled and some guy on Reddit said that Peru has been observed fenestrating in the wild but its super rare? Idk I think that sounds legit so we’ll go with that, lol 😂
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet I couldn't see the post because most of the subreddits are on a strike right now, but I'll take your word for it! I would've loved to know what it looks like though
I agree we should go by a “pics or it didn’t happen” standard here, hahaha! I should have double checked before I said that in the video… dang it… I might edit that out idk I’m lazy though I probably won’t. I’ll do better next time 👍🏻
It's crazy how different things are in South Africa. People are FROTHING for a variegated Adansonii and they still go for a good amount here! I got a cutting for an okay price and am now left with just a wetstick 💀 but the Monstera Albo has definitely dropped here now too
That’s so interesting! Can I ask what it was like trying to keep plants back when the water crisis was going on? We’re people losing them?
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet I wasn't collecting yet when the crisis was at its worst but I think people definitely lost their collections if they couldn't afford to tap into borehole water, buy bottled water or were willing to pay the penalties for going over the limit. Depending on the level we were on you were only allowed to use x liters of water per day. We'd often have to collect our shower water to flush the toilet, which you'd seldom flush due to the "if it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" rule we adopted.
Wow, that sounds really awful. Hope it never gets that bad again