Rare Plant Prices Plummet: What's Happening + Future of Rare Houseplants

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  • @briteddy9759
    @briteddy9759 6 місяців тому +20

    What an interesting video. I have a jungle according to my kids, but only a few plants according to house plant collectors!😊 I will not spend my money on the rare plants. I can add new types of houseplants through buying more common varieties at reasonable prices and I am enjoying that. Plants can easily die and the price of the rare plants is just too much of a gamble. That said, learning about what is rare and what the prices are is just plain fascinating. Thank you!

    • @dora9368
      @dora9368 6 місяців тому +2

      I agree 💯😊

    • @leesmith6179
      @leesmith6179 5 місяців тому

      Couldn't have said it better myself!

  • @cbrvench2483
    @cbrvench2483 6 місяців тому +17

    They need to change the name "Rare" to "Limited Edition" Because it will come and go. Big batches grown then sold, then dissapear for a while.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому +3

      Right? Or maybe “scarce” only frequently they aren’t scarce everywhere

  • @angelahegbom9053
    @angelahegbom9053 6 місяців тому +11

    One thing to keep in mind is all of these Kroger plants are coming from the same nursery. I think they may be producing their own TCs thus driving down their costs. This is the same place responsible for the “ice white princess”, variegated ring of fire, Paridiso verde, white wizard, marble/galaxy pink princess, and now Thais.

  • @renatecormick7399
    @renatecormick7399 5 місяців тому +1

    Totally agree with you on so many things in this video. I was just watching another UA-cam plant person who said “rare plants” aren’t always the prettiest, some popular varieties are just as nice so why all the hype. Thanks for a very interesting video Drea, keep ‘em coming.

  • @pinstripesuitandheels
    @pinstripesuitandheels 6 місяців тому +7

    Wow, prices are going crazy both ways!

  • @dora9368
    @dora9368 6 місяців тому +5

    Tfs Drea. I could never afford plants at that price and even if I could I don't know that I'd purchase them at that price point😕

  • @MT-bk5go
    @MT-bk5go 6 місяців тому +7

    Here in Romania we also have problems with plants from grocery stores being questionable quality, I had bought 3 White Fusions and they all died after I removed the fabric covering the roots, even after an year they did not recover, removing the plant from the pot just to have a look I've discovered the entire steam has gotten bone dry even though it had been watered every time the pot got dry 25-30%

    • @Danielalocasia
      @Danielalocasia 6 місяців тому

      Same thing happened with the first release of ring of fire at Kroger grocery stores. They ended up not being kept climate controlled during transportation and they would drop all there leaves shortly after being purchased.

    • @DanGabriel09
      @DanGabriel09 6 місяців тому

      They are also watering everything with very cold tap water. Noticed today in Brico Depot. Carnivorous plants especially were mostly dead.

    • @amberfrazier575
      @amberfrazier575 5 місяців тому +4

      There is a nursery in Oregon that hardens off their plants before shipment. Slowly Lowering the humidity to around 55 and watering them less and less so they have a higher chance of survival outside of the nursery. You would think it would be common practice for all nurseries.

  • @Danielalocasia
    @Danielalocasia 6 місяців тому +2

    Also its not in all the stores, in general here in the Dallas Fort Worth area we are seeing them at specifically Kroger Marketplaces in high income, high volume areas that tend to have a higher price on items in general.

  • @WhistleintheWind
    @WhistleintheWind 5 місяців тому +1

    Your channel is so informative! Keep up the great work.😊

  • @27kjh
    @27kjh 5 місяців тому +2

    Before 2020 I had one plant, a Hoya Canosa. That year an addiction to Hoyas start and I wanted to get rare or hard to get Hoyas… the common Hoya Carnosa wasn’t good enough to me. I spent some money on them too. Now that my addiction to Hoyas has subsided…guess what my favorite plant is…my Hoya Carnosa.

  • @ConnieP92
    @ConnieP92 5 місяців тому +1

    Pretty spot on and I too am curious to see if your predictions are correct 👍🏼 I'm in Sydney and already am seeing alot of former rare or uncommon plants overseas becoming available and reasonably priced due to TC. I'm not a seller just a collector but feel for you and other online sellers who have to deal with the fallout😩 I really just wanna enjoy the plants in my home and outdoor gardens as they bring me calmness and joy...nothing like foliage therapy, it's my happy place 🥰

  • @Ghost-sz7uo
    @Ghost-sz7uo Місяць тому

    i just got a dragon scale and ring of fire which were considered rare over the pandemic, and are cheap now. i'm going to enjoy them for now and wait 5 years for the variegated dragon scale and caramel marble prices to drop.

  • @mayasixtus1573
    @mayasixtus1573 6 місяців тому +4

    I appreciate varigation, but it's generally not something I look for. I prefer white varigation, though mint can be beautiful too. I'm not a fan of yellow varigation in general.
    Thank you for this great vid.

  • @aspirativemusicproduction2135
    @aspirativemusicproduction2135 6 місяців тому +2

    I am very happy I can buy rare philodendrons cheap at the local garden center. In the past half year I bought only rare plants. And my favorite one is $15 with taxes. I know it's going to be difficult for small growers to sell with profit but for us who just grow for our enjoyment it can't get any better. All the plants that were going for hundreds of dollars now sell for regular prices.

  • @EvaScartozzi
    @EvaScartozzi 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this video- I appreciate your explanations about the market and predictions are always fun! I’m looking forward to your Tissue Culture video bc I don’t understand why it matters - is it bad? Are there negative long term affects to the plant? And how negative is the affect on the plant market? Very curious to hear your perspective on TC as well as your extensive research finds. ❤your channel!

  • @lvbaum3
    @lvbaum3 6 місяців тому +5

    Okay, watched the video beyond the mockingbird signing and just as an fyi.
    The Carmel Marble are being tissue cultured. I have some that are still in their baggies of agar.

  • @harasnosugref19
    @harasnosugref19 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m so happy you pointed out the scindapsus that looks almost identical to pictus haha. I’m a newbie but it does make me laugh at the different price points for very minimal differences.

    • @PinkVirgo
      @PinkVirgo 5 місяців тому

      I know the Hoya lovers are going to come for me but sooo many of the Hoyas look exactly the same. I laugh when I watch the videos where someone will name 5 different Hoyas and they all look like the same plant.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      There are definitely a lot of very similar looking Hoya

    • @marisakirisame2366
      @marisakirisame2366 Місяць тому

      @@PinkVirgopretty sure it’s gonna be like that for most genera. A lot of them are gonna look very similar with only a few species of that genera standing out.

  • @ocny4468
    @ocny4468 6 місяців тому +7

    That scindapsus "tricolor" should be called a Scindapsus "Emperor's New Clothes."
    Like you, I see nothing that could be interpreted as "tri-color."

    • @charitybrook6279
      @charitybrook6279 6 місяців тому +1

      I think they are referring to the yellowing on the leaves. I have the "nonvariagated" version of that one and it gets yellowing on the leaves from time to time but it's from watering issues... That one's yellowing looks different than what I have experienced. So I'm thinking it's a color mutation. However it looks ugly and sickly 😅

    • @ocny4468
      @ocny4468 6 місяців тому +1

      @@charitybrook6279 ---Honestly I don't even see that! I have a scindapsus pictus argyraeus and never have any yellowing....I guess I should neglect it a bit more and wait for the "premium" decaying to come out, lol!

    • @charitybrook6279
      @charitybrook6279 6 місяців тому +2

      @@ocny4468 🤣🤣🤣 make sure to charge those "premium" prices too! 🤣🤣

  • @Nclk619
    @Nclk619 Місяць тому

    hey, if you want your monstera to grow huge leaves, keep pruning it. You will get less leaves but huge ones and will look nicer and meet. Eventually it will start to shoot more steams too. I got my monstera to grow about 9' in 5 years and the leaves are really big with all those fenestrations. Plus, I have others that I put on the backyard from the cuttings I took

  • @mcooper3271
    @mcooper3271 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the insight. Have to admit I ran out and bought a Thai from Kroger but didn’t think about the impact to smaller sellers. Will keep in mind going forward ❤

  • @lvbaum3
    @lvbaum3 6 місяців тому +6

    Mockingbirds are the best!

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 5 місяців тому

    I'm grateful for tissue cultured aquatic plants. Apparently that can make it a lot easier to ship across borders, and gets me access to plants that are free of pathogens that I would otherwise not likely see in my home market.

  • @mooreashley00
    @mooreashley00 5 місяців тому

    I found my Thai Con at the grocery store for 30$! I was so excited!!! He is doing so well, and just threw out a new leaf for me

  • @louisehondel2761
    @louisehondel2761 6 місяців тому +3

    I love that bird!

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому +5

      Glad it’s apparently adding to the ambience and not distracting people lol

    • @irairod5160
      @irairod5160 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@AlohaPlantLife That's exactly how I feel! The singing of the mockingbird in the background adds to my enjoyment of the planty talk.

    • @msscamp100
      @msscamp100 6 місяців тому +1

      @@AlohaPlantLife He/she is not a bit distracting, at least to me. I live in a rural area, and I have birds singing, squawking, and chirping most of the day if the weather is nice.

  • @Robbie..Ha-Navi
    @Robbie..Ha-Navi 6 місяців тому +3

    you should play/make loud cat noise at bottom of chimney . see if birds go away

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому +1

      🤣

    • @msscamp100
      @msscamp100 6 місяців тому +2

      Probably don't want to do that. If Drea's cats are like mine, she will then have 3 cats chattering and trying to climb the chimney on the inside. LOL

    • @Robbie..Ha-Navi
      @Robbie..Ha-Navi 5 місяців тому

      @@msscamp100 im trying to get her to 100000 subscribers . if she gets by the chimney and starts making cats calls. and films it. , it may help

  • @mwatson4970
    @mwatson4970 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm one of those that alocasia is easier for 😂. Not always the most IG-worthy (I don't always turn them so they are full all around), but happy. Only variegated one I might be inclined to try is a frydek... if I get rid of 5 other plants to balance # of care.

  • @MikeC-o4c
    @MikeC-o4c 4 місяці тому

    Great explanation!

  • @Nclk619
    @Nclk619 Місяць тому

    Steve's leaves sell amazing plants

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  Місяць тому

      Definitely! That’s where I got my philodendron micans from

    • @Nclk619
      @Nclk619 Місяць тому

      @@AlohaPlantLife hahaha, me too! I got my mi and from Steve's. And many many others.
      My brother is a colector of antiques, including cars... I know the drill, but I still don't get it. Just today I went to Safeway and got the most amazing pink princess with a variegation out of this world for less than 30$. I just had to wait the fad pass. I actually got one before for 20$ that was not variegating, but I made it to variegate again , just not like this one I got today. I love plants, I have over 400 indoors and another ... well... I don't even know how many I have outdoors lol, but none of them I paid more than 50$, my husband is the one who buys plants over what I think is sane, but nothing over 150$ because I told him no, we just have to wait. I wish I could post a picture here for you to see since I don't post in any social media, I just follow but don't like to be followed. 🤣
      BTW, I am new to your channel and I love your vibe.

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 5 місяців тому

    Loss leader on the fancy splotched vine, and get the bux on the marked up to the teeth specialty dirt and a nice looking pot. I'm ok with that.

  • @kristimcswain4439
    @kristimcswain4439 6 місяців тому +2

    Pet peeve of mine as well. I want some of these beautiful “rare plants” but unable to fit them into my plant budget. People are greedy just to be greedy and do not care about others.

  • @ThatGirlShelbyy
    @ThatGirlShelbyy 6 місяців тому +1

    My watermelon peperomia was one of the first plants I ordered online... it looked beat up when I got it and only ever gave me a couple of leaves, and it ended up dying. Couldn't figure out what it wanted for watering, didn't seem happy no matter what I did.
    It lasted maybe just under year in my collection before it was too far gone 😅

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      In my experience they’re frequently overwatered and already rotting when people buy them which definitely doesn’t help

  • @louisehondel2761
    @louisehondel2761 6 місяців тому +6

    Good video. Thank you. Your outfit is really cute too.

  • @surgeinc1
    @surgeinc1 5 місяців тому

    Great video!
    Just a thought.. another trend seems to be smaller, higher humidity plants in cabinets, terrariums and grow tents.
    Btw… I think maybe, you have a mama Mockingbird feeding her babies!🥰

  • @snarkybyrd7385
    @snarkybyrd7385 6 місяців тому +3

    I have been in search of a Black Maranta, also known as Noid, or Cat Mustache. 😕
    Search isn't going so good.

    • @Gee-xb7rt
      @Gee-xb7rt 6 місяців тому +1

      Steve's Leaves lists them, I don't know how often they have it in stock, they sell it for 90. USD and they say its difficult to grow, needs high humidity. .

    • @snarkybyrd7385
      @snarkybyrd7385 6 місяців тому

      Thankyou for the info. 😊

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому

      @gee-xb7rt beat me to it. Steve’s Leaves would be my recommendation as well

  • @SLee-vc9gd
    @SLee-vc9gd 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for Drea's TED Talk lol. And I mean that with the utmost respect because damn...do you know how to break a topic down!!!👊🏽 Can't wait for the tissue culture talk!!💚✌🏽

  • @sonnyalvarado768
    @sonnyalvarado768 4 місяці тому +1

    Tissue culture is not a new or recent practice. Tissue culture and other techniques such as embryo and root cultures have been used for over a century.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  4 місяці тому

      I didn’t say tissue culture was new in general

  • @MysticWanderer
    @MysticWanderer 2 місяці тому

    Hybridization will continue to bring "rare" plants to market.
    Spot on description of loss leaders as a concept (ie get 'em in the store). Not all things that seem cheap will be at a loss though and not all high % off are at a loss either. I saw a baseball bat at 75% off that I found was still making some margin (sale price - cost without accounting for overhead).

  • @GuacamoleKun
    @GuacamoleKun 5 місяців тому

    I think that one monstera looks like ocean waves if you imagine looking down at the ocean from above.

  • @Planty-Mandy
    @Planty-Mandy 5 місяців тому

    Better make sure you get your chimney cleaned before you light a fire next winter! There might be a nest!

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      I never use it because I’m always worried something’s wrong up there lol

  • @13BulliTs
    @13BulliTs 5 місяців тому

    Price of plants should be in how big they are not in rarity.

  • @annafink2245
    @annafink2245 5 місяців тому

    It's moved to other rare plants like anthurium cultivars and hybrids.. But with TC culture, even the spriritus sancit is also not super rare anymore.

  • @StephGrows
    @StephGrows 5 місяців тому

    What is your take on the Anthurium that have been tissue cultured, such as the Delta Force? It has gone from being priceless, to costing thousands, and now it’s in TC and still costing hundreds. Is this a plant that you see eventually being readily accessible for less than $100?

  • @JL-be2sr
    @JL-be2sr 5 місяців тому

    I grew up with families who always grew plants I don’t particularly know what’s “rare” or not except when I pick up a plant at my nursery tgat I like and almost fall. On the ground from sticker shock 😂 then quickly and sadly put it back!

  • @northernplantucky
    @northernplantucky 6 місяців тому +3

    I feel like the market is going to be flooded with mutt anthuriums. Many of the species that we keep in our home are actually endangered in the wild. I'm hoping that tissue culture may help introduce these species plants back into the wild🌱

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому +1

      Wait, I need further clarification on the term “mutt” in relation to houseplants please

    • @northernplantucky
      @northernplantucky 5 місяців тому +1

      @AlohaPlantLife I guess I mean unregistered random hybrids that are being created in people's homes . That's fine for the hobby, but a problem if they start to become falsely sold/marketed as recognized named hybrids / species .I still think that tissue culture has a great opportunity to be used in plant conservation,

    • @Planty-Mandy
      @Planty-Mandy 5 місяців тому +1

      I wonder the same. The more people breed hybrids with hybrids, the less that specific features will stand out, leaving the plants all kinda looking the same. We need the serious anthurium breeders to keep lines clean so we don’t lose the integrity of the different species.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      @@northernplantucky Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!💚

  • @CatFish107
    @CatFish107 5 місяців тому

    Yay, you got a chimney pal!

  • @frankierattigan441
    @frankierattigan441 5 місяців тому

    I also think there will be an increased demand for different monstera deliciosas, but in particular the sport variegated monsteras. I think the large form sport monsteras will maintain a fairly high price for a while. However over the last half a year or so I have seen large form monstera deliciosa aurea and large form monstera deliciosa mint that are from tissue culture start to pop up more and more. Unfortunately the monstera mint tissue culture seedlings that we are beginning to see more are not the same monstera mint as the one most commonly seen on instagram and is sometimes called a jungle mint monstera and has deep fenestrations with thin green veining in its variegated sections, that one is typically described as an intermediate form, so it is neither a large form or small form. The tissue culture monstera mints are large form monstera deliciosas and I have noticed that they tend their green veining/minty variegation is less thin and slightly splotchy. The monstera ocean mint you showed is not in tissue culture either I'm pretty sure, it would be amazing if it was though, Ive heard that the monstera ocean mint was a mutation/sport variegation from the monstera contorta, which is why its leaves are slightly irregular shaped. I like to watch plant videos from all over the world and have heard from multiple channels that the most reliable way to predict future plant trends is to look at trends in Southeast Asia and what is being tissue cultured there. This is a very fun video to watch, I love these types of plant videos that are less focused on showing plants. Its great to see other plant peoples perspectives on these sorts of things and I appreciate the use of terms you learnt in marketing.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for sharing your insights as well💚

  • @Kylie-j7c
    @Kylie-j7c 5 місяців тому

    Hey girl I had a question about my monstera plant the newest new leaves have no holes but the 2 prior to the new ones do 😢 I'm not sure what she is doing i did repot her but i don't think shat would cause her to do that 😮❤😢

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому +1

      Typically this would actually be an indication of too little light. When there’s not enough light these plants will try and increase the amount of surface area available to absorb light, and the easiest way to do that is to push out solid leaves with no slits if that makes sense. Make sure fertilizing regularly as well (minimum once a month).💚

  • @bewarethenight6749
    @bewarethenight6749 5 місяців тому

    I have one of the "tri-colors," and it's literally two
    .... TWO COLORS😅
    Hey girly. Long time, no talk. Been working my butt off. I need to get work you about some cuttings. I'm looking for a Philo warswiczii (spelling?) and the Auream. Do you have these?

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      Unfortunately I don’t have any of those

  • @HelloHoustons
    @HelloHoustons 5 місяців тому

    I’m glad prices are going down. 🙄

  • @Nclk619
    @Nclk619 Місяць тому

    I don't get why people have these desire to have something just because it is "rare", difficult to get or ridiculously expensive for no reason at all.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  Місяць тому +1

      I think it’s the nature of being a “collector”. Just like with stamps, coins, etc. People always covet the ones that are least available and hardest to find. I don’t really have a “collector” mentality with my plants, but others do and I think that’s where it stems from💚

  • @erinestrawberry3209
    @erinestrawberry3209 6 місяців тому

    They're not having a loss at all their tissue cultures. And we all know that tissue cultures have a lot of problems. The hardcore plant people will hold out for the real deal. Especially if you say it's a non. Tissue culture. I was plant shopping on Etsy the other day. And I noticed many different times that they said it's a non. Tissue culture, a cutting from a mother plant.

  • @amaiaormazabal1879
    @amaiaormazabal1879 5 місяців тому +1

    DNA in plants can’t be compared ti human’s. Because plants don’t need two different DNA sources to propagate like humans. So tissue culture will NOT cause issues, it’s exactly like propagation from cuttings but in a minuscule scale.
    Unless they are hybrids made from pollinating different plants

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      I’m aware and I wasn’t trying to make a factual scientific claim, but rather using something people understand for easier understanding. But thanks for clarifying for people💚

  • @TheSolarmarksman
    @TheSolarmarksman 6 місяців тому +2

    Girl. Anthurium are the it plant right now. Come on

    • @glabratum1550
      @glabratum1550 6 місяців тому +4

      And by the way everybody's pollinating at home, their prices are also tanking.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому +2

      I know, that’s what I said in the video, and I said that’s why there will always be new types in limited supply when the first come out. Especially since the same cross can turn out looking quite different each time you do the cross. Makes anthurium quite a bit more unique in my opinion. Pricing is still pretty high for “rare” anthurium from what I’ve seen.

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  6 місяців тому +2

      Not saying it’s not one of the “it” plants right now, just saying people have started going crazier than normal over variegated alocasia. Honestly, I feel like anthurium have always been an “it” plant so that’s nothing really new if you know what I mean. Are you a big anthurium collector? I’ve been acquiring more lately and have been asking all the big anthurium collectors I come across, what’s your current must have anthurium?

  • @conservativebarbiedoll589
    @conservativebarbiedoll589 6 місяців тому +3

    I prefer to order from small business plant shops rather than big boutiques! Your shop restored my confidence ordering online and having plants shipped to me so thank you for that! I’ll pay higher prices for healthy, happy plant babies ❤ 🪴

  • @kathylovejoy2569
    @kathylovejoy2569 5 місяців тому

    I only buy plants that I really like. I don't care about trends, I could never afford those high prices, even if I really wanted too. I'm looking more for a plant that will put out pretty flowers for me. I have no room for these big plants, so don't even look at them. But everybody is different. If I am looking for a bit harder to find plant, I just wait until I eventually come upon one somewhere. I cannot and will not pay a huge price for a plant. Too many other things in life have to come first. Plus I like to be really surprised, if I find a plant on my wish list. More fun that way

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      Just curious what your favorite plant you currently own is?

  • @radekf2006
    @radekf2006 5 місяців тому

    Fortunately, variegation is not my thing, and most of the plants that I like, are either out fashion or they were never fashionable to begin with ;)

    • @AlohaPlantLife
      @AlohaPlantLife  5 місяців тому

      Oooo! Give me some examples of plants you like because now I’m intrigued

    • @radekf2006
      @radekf2006 5 місяців тому

      @@AlohaPlantLife Among others I like Epiphyllum (Angulier, Chrysocardium), senecio macroglossus, crassula falcata, basically odd shaped plants

  • @flipchart90
    @flipchart90 5 місяців тому

    „I have one of the OG‘s…“
    That person would be dumb enough to brag about spending a sh*t ton of money just out of impatients. 😂 Doesn‘t sound like something to brag about to me. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @cindywannamaker5299
    @cindywannamaker5299 6 місяців тому

    Must be the only thing whose prices have dropped. Lol