Fancy Anthurium | Top Rarest & Most Expensive Anthurium Types

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2023
  • #houseplants #rareplants #plantlady #fancyplants #anthurium
    Welcome to the shortlist of the fanciest, schmanciest, bougiest, most EXPENSIVE Anthurium types that I could find on the internet.
    Special thanks to MonsteraX for their help with this video and for allowing me to use some of their gorgeous pictures! Visit them here:
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  • @bethanynapier9407
    @bethanynapier9407 11 місяців тому +18

    I'm shocked delta force wasn't in here!

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +15

      So that was on my original list but because of dupes and rumours of TC we decided to leave it off. They really don’t sell for that much anymore and attempts to hybridize them haven’t yielded many offspring with nice qualities so we decided to leave it off. I might make a fancy anthurium hybrids video down the line and cover it there!

    • @cobberkat
      @cobberkat 11 місяців тому +5

      Yaaas to hybrids video! Digging these!

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much for the feedback! There are more in the works but they are a ton of work so they take a while

    • @cobberkat
      @cobberkat 11 місяців тому +3

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet 100000% understandable. I truly appreciate whatever content you share and am grateful for your candor, knowledge, and willingness to get to the bottom of things! #yayforresearch

    • @michaelasoyer1102
      @michaelasoyer1102 11 місяців тому

      Enjoyed your video a lot. Great topic 🪴💚

  • @lookatthatleaf
    @lookatthatleaf 11 місяців тому +4

    The anthurium video anthurium newbs like me need before throwing money out, thank you!

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      I’ve got another one coming that talks about what to look for and which questions to ask that should be coming out next week as well. Glad you enjoyed!

  • @stephanieh651
    @stephanieh651 11 місяців тому +4

    Anthurium are my favorite! Thank you for putting this video together

  • @mannylorras5362
    @mannylorras5362 6 місяців тому

    Love the video... super well done. And love MonsteraX! Thank you

  • @oktszu4198
    @oktszu4198 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing content! Best summary of most desired anthuriums I've seen ❤

  • @Yoliplanting
    @Yoliplanting 11 місяців тому +6

    This was amazing wow, thank you for the visual treat. I’m in love with the Dark Phoenix which I will never own🖤

  • @ninasuculentasymas
    @ninasuculentasymas 11 місяців тому +1

    Very informative video!!! Thank you so much!!! 🙋🏼‍♀️🪴🌿

  • @TheRussellevans225
    @TheRussellevans225 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video as always . Thank you . Keep them coming lol

  • @kamilcichanowski1954
    @kamilcichanowski1954 11 місяців тому

    That was so interesting! Thank you 💜

  • @natashaoreilly7072
    @natashaoreilly7072 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this well put together video! LOVE 🥹💚

  • @heatherstephens9295
    @heatherstephens9295 11 місяців тому +7

    Congratulations on your success growing that anthurium from seed! What a fantastic achievement & keeping it alive 👏👏👏

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +3

      Thank you! I have no idea why the universe smiled on me bc a lot of people who are more experienced than I am have had a hard time with it

    • @you_gullible_fucc
      @you_gullible_fucc 11 місяців тому +1

      Not to mention just one seed too! She's brave, I'd be too scared to take that risk

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +3

      My friend started all the seeds and sent me a seedling when they were a little bigger. I hauled it in a video like almost 2 years ago. I think I’m holding a Florida beauty and a white princess in the thumbnail

  • @heatherstephens9295
    @heatherstephens9295 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video - really enjoyed it! Thank you 👍👍👍

  • @karryptm
    @karryptm 5 місяців тому

    Great video. Thanks Danny

  • @michelleconrey4171
    @michelleconrey4171 11 місяців тому +1

    👍🏼. Really great video. So well researched!

  • @steveneavling9817
    @steveneavling9817 11 місяців тому +3

    The best way to get many of the characteristics of these beautiful anthuriums is to get a hybrid. They are a lot more inexpensive, and often have the best characteristics of two plants. I've been buying a lot of hybrids lately. The plant community has done a really good job with these.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Very true! Looking forward to covering a lot of cool anthurium hybrids in a future video. Hybrids unfortunately are a bit of a crap shoot on which characteristics they end up showing and don’t hold their value as well as the pure species plants do, but are perfectly fine for the average collector wanting something pretty for a more reasonable price and less stress ✨❤️🪴

  • @jacquelineselagy3007
    @jacquelineselagy3007 11 місяців тому +1

    Loved this ! 😍

  • @wijayanton
    @wijayanton 11 місяців тому +2

    Truly money can buy crazy ass happiness 😄
    Great video & I love your papillilaminum, dressleri & longissimilobum !

  • @marygorchidsmore2058
    @marygorchidsmore2058 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video, thanks for sharing all your research on rare and luxurious anthuriums, enjoyed a lot! You've done such a great job growing the anthurium dressolerii from seed! You seem very proud of it and you should be! I hope it will bloom for you soon so you can make your own baby anthuriums and spread the love! Thanks for sharing and happy growing 😊

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for such a nice comment! I am very proud of it ✨❤️🪴

  • @motorsportguy
    @motorsportguy 11 місяців тому +3

    Great video, have a lot of this Lou . Trying to get a RA1 BVEP and an OG Circus I didn’t even know of the DF Nov!!!! Added to want list too…!! Bougie Anthuriums are so addictive!

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      You’re telling me! I really just want a BVEP and a dark form AOS right now!

  • @toufupowa
    @toufupowa 11 місяців тому +1

    I am so excited!!

  • @Maius19
    @Maius19 11 місяців тому +5

    just as a little "fun fact" anthurium red crystallinum isnt really a crystallinum as far as i know
    its based on the wonderboy hybrid by tim anderson (basically he wanted to create a hybrid out of every velvet plant he had), later on it was called red crystallinum bv enid from nse tropicals based on the red emergent leaves. basically the parentage is not really known

  • @HerbStories
    @HerbStories 11 місяців тому

    Thanks very informative

  • @vadimsehrer9257
    @vadimsehrer9257 11 місяців тому

    Wow
    Your dressleri is amazing!
    I have a papi RA2 , what is also a expensive and rare papi, but the BVEP RA1 is my current favorite on my wishlist :)

  • @ameralanati2066
    @ameralanati2066 2 місяці тому

    Superb

  • @Dieppaloveplants
    @Dieppaloveplants 11 місяців тому

    Girla i been waiting fot this yasss i hope i dont end up with wish list lol

  • @HannahSymonds-vf1by
    @HannahSymonds-vf1by 4 місяці тому

    top notch anthurium content

  • @lisamiller7143
    @lisamiller7143 7 місяців тому

    Super

  • @gasaza9536
    @gasaza9536 10 місяців тому

    Iya beautiful, I have several anthurium collections in my house

  • @christopherchong1198
    @christopherchong1198 11 місяців тому +3

    Where is the Delta Force!?!? No…. It needs to be here. :) 😊

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s come down in price a lot and it’s in TC so we decided to leave it off

  • @DimaculanganPunch
    @DimaculanganPunch 11 місяців тому +2

    This is so awesome.
    Unrelated thing, I work in a hospital and emergent means drop everything and get the whole team going. Like emergent surgery, or any emergent situation. 🤣.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha yeah plant people use it to mean “emerging leaves” sometimes but I think your definition is way more official!

  • @Alex.Rivers
    @Alex.Rivers Рік тому +1

    YESSSSSS 🙌

  • @IdrisFashan
    @IdrisFashan 11 місяців тому +1

    Kills Queens, rocks Dressleri. Dig it!
    Great video. Very informative.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      My queen is making a comeback tho, just wait, this time is going to be different 🤣

  • @silasd7348
    @silasd7348 11 місяців тому +2

    I desperately need me a Red Crystalinum, but am trying to wait because I know the price will go down eventually. Loved this video and well researched.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! I recently got three red Chrystallinum seeds for only $50. They’re all just now putting out their first leaves! Deals are out there if you’re in the right groups on Facebook

    • @silasd7348
      @silasd7348 11 місяців тому

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Definitley the best place to look!

  • @robclaassen2999
    @robclaassen2999 4 місяці тому

    I'm watching this 7 months late, and some of the numbers have changed ... of course. But I really appreciate your taste in plants, and the research and thought you put in to this. I bought a couple of the anthuriums you recommended. Not cheap, but so worth it for a splurge.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  4 місяці тому

      Yeah it’s wild how fast the market changes! Glad you enjoyed and thank you for the kind words.

  • @eunoiaplanter
    @eunoiaplanter 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm not a dark Anthurium lover at all but the Hoffmanii Red Sinus 😍👌🏻

    • @eunoiaplanter
      @eunoiaplanter 11 місяців тому +1

      wait I commented too early, the Black Velvet Eastern Panama 😱😍

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Uh oh… sounds like I might have converted you 😝

  • @VeryKinkyCurl
    @VeryKinkyCurl 11 місяців тому +1

    Doc block zara x Michelle is my fav. I purchased one off of a seller who has alot if them on Etsy. . Blue velvet, Dark Phoenix, BVEP, Magnificum verde, AOS, Dressleri, Dark force etc…

  • @Tinas.jungle
    @Tinas.jungle 11 місяців тому +1

    Damn 😅 I want them all! I have a doc block f2 seed that has just put out its 1st leaf. It's really difficult to get nice and fancy anthurium in the uk. Seems like all the genuine sellers are in the us 😢 After months of looking I finally got besseae aff medium sized plant and I'm in love with it 😍 💚

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      We are really spoiled over here! If you want to look into importing, Kartel Daun probably ships to the UK. Don’t go to their instagram unless you wanna have your wishlist destroyed though! Fair warning 🪴✨❤️

  • @pedrocarvalho6391
    @pedrocarvalho6391 11 місяців тому +2

    Don't think It'd be a bad idea to breed the Dressleri with a pap and the back with dressleri to get sth that's pretty similar looking without all the fuss of the dressleri 🤔

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Oh for sure! Lots of Dressleri hybrids are out there. I think maybe a bullate pap might give you a nice cross that still looks dress-y

  • @phoenette
    @phoenette Місяць тому +2

    This video for me is the ultimate reason why you shouldn't really buy expensive anthuriums at least here in Poland. The video is 10 months old and I can already see how big of a price diffrence so many of this are, here in Poland you can already buy docblock Anthys for 150usd and less and Kunayalense also for 150usd (compered to 2250 from the video). Waiting a year just lets you save up so so much money and that's why I always wait untill this expensive anthuriums hit 100usd threshold before buying. Well executed video tho!

  • @user-kz9yb7et1y
    @user-kz9yb7et1y 11 місяців тому +1

    amazing video !!! just a thing ; isn't dark phoenix Papililaminum x dressleri ?

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      Thank you! Ngl, I don’t know. Did I say it was pap x AOS?

    • @user-kz9yb7et1y
      @user-kz9yb7et1y 11 місяців тому

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet I think you might be right too I need to do more research !!

    • @user-kz9yb7et1y
      @user-kz9yb7et1y 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet So I think the original Dark Phoenix is Pappillaminum x Dressleri RG, but there are variations / indo versions and the RVDP is Papi x AOS !

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      That is so confusing and annoying hahaha

  • @yy7803
    @yy7803 11 місяців тому +4

    I loved this video! I'm not really up-to-date when it comes to the rare plants (anymore), so this was very entertaining and informative :). Anthuriums are a nice genus, but most of them look too similar (with a few exceptions ofcourse), so you really have to want them for the species, cultivar and/or...to be honest...the value and rarity. I remember when rare plants dropped down in price after the pandemic. All of a sudden a lot of plant owners didn't want them anymore. Psychologically things or even humans seem to appear more attractive when they're high in value. Anyway, I do love the Sp DF Nov. Will you cover another genus in the future?

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Hi! Monstera and philodendron are already up on a playlist (they are a little out of date now but still fun) and I will definitely be covering more groups in the future!

  • @andreaskoss8045
    @andreaskoss8045 11 місяців тому +1

    wow the black velvet eastern panama anthurium is soooo nice.
    what is the name of the green anthurium on the left side with elongated T shape??

  • @litlbeck
    @litlbeck 11 місяців тому +1

    interesting to see the difference in the plant cost in different regions. I'm in Australia, and I often watch content from the EU and the US and it can be VERY different. Not in taste for the fancy factors, but availability. I can see (in early July 2023) A. Panamense for sale here for around AUD$200 (closer to $135 USD) for a small plant. I guess its more easily available here. But with our strict biosecurity laws, there are many that are almost impossible to get here, and you can't get them for any money.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Very interesting! A few of the ones on here are more widely available in Australia, like the Hoffmanii. Ilsemanii was much more widely available for a long time too.

  • @loes6839
    @loes6839 11 місяців тому

    The prices are so interesting to me. Here in the Netherlands you can get Anthurium chrystallinum, clarinervium and silver blush from about €10 for a smaller plant with often multiple in one pot. The biggest chain garden centre started carrying a lot of "rare" plants since covid, so once they are there, prices drop a lot. Not particularly at those garden centres, but other sellers drop their prices a lot to he able to compete with that big chain😅
    I recently (april) got a small a. regale for €30 at a plantmarket in Germany (botanika hamm). Even Germany and the Netherlands seem to have quite different pricing.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      Those are some really great deals! The Netherlands has some really amazing plants.

  • @dml1605
    @dml1605 11 місяців тому +1

    What would you say about Delta Force?

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      It’s come down in price a lot and there are so many dupes out there now and it’s rumored to be in TC. I might cover it in a future video specifically on Hybrids or a cancelled video though… not sure I want to kick that hornets nest yet though lol! MonsteraX told me that delta force don’t sell very well these days.

  • @nashir712
    @nashir712 11 місяців тому +2

    Quite dissapointed not seeing king of spades (HU) on your list. Great content tho!

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      It was discussed but I only had so much time and I’ll probably discuss it in the future in a dedicated hybrids video

    • @viktoriagiebel5064
      @viktoriagiebel5064 11 місяців тому +1

      HU is not that crazy expensive nor rare, at least in Germany. You can get small plants for around 100 Euro here.

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      I actually saw listings for it today and for the prices it was listed for, it wouldn’t have made the list. They are beautiful so I think the hybrids list will be the right place for them 😊. Part of the reason they were left off is because we couldn’t find solid pricing that was recent enough.

    • @nashir712
      @nashir712 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet yes I think one of the reason is because it’s hard to get the F1 ones.. most of the plants that’s in the market nowadays are F2, it’s original genetic is kinda weak, so when ppl try to hybridize them the result will hardly come to their expectation.
      Love the way you reply everyone 👏

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      No problem! Talking with everyone is really fun ✨❤️🪴

  • @romalvick942
    @romalvick942 11 місяців тому

    All I can focus on is the BEAUTIFUL elongated leaf on the left behind you!!! What plant is that?

  • @janfrias1494
    @janfrias1494 11 місяців тому +2

    They should consider changing their name to anthuriumX haha lol

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha! They have a little bit of everything but they got their start in a group that was dedicated to monstera sports and it grew so much it turned into monsteraX. I got a lot of my research for the Fancy Monstera video from that group!

  • @johnsonlaw0804
    @johnsonlaw0804 8 місяців тому

    for growing darker anthurium, do they require lower light level to sustain the colour?

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  8 місяців тому +1

      It’s mostly genetics. Even those really dark leaves fade as they get older. The right light is part of it but also watering and nutrients. Leave’s definitely start looking bleached out faster on a plant that’s being underwatered. Thank you for a great question!

    • @johnsonlaw0804
      @johnsonlaw0804 8 місяців тому

      thanks for you reply :)@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet

  • @roxymoron12345
    @roxymoron12345 11 місяців тому +2

    Is the plant to your right a longisimilobum? It is so cool

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Yes, it is!

    • @roxymoron12345
      @roxymoron12345 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PlantFriendDownTheStreetis it common for it to have a flattened sinus?

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      I don’t know but it might be maturity or conditions. When I got it it had more of a “V” shaped sinus. A lot of people have gotten Longissimilobum from Tropicals and I don’t 100% think it’s the right ID or there are multiple eco types. I think mine is pretty cool though!

    • @roxymoron12345
      @roxymoron12345 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet yes yours is the most unique longisimilobum I've seen. I ordered one from ecua cali after watching your video to try it. Love you and your content!

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      I got mine from Ivan Portilla personally so if you got it from Ecua there’s a good chance it will mature and look like mine. Best of luck with yours! They love airflow and don’t mind a little less humidity ✨❤️🪴

  • @jacobramey288
    @jacobramey288 2 місяці тому

    What is that plant to your right? Loooong newer leaf

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  2 місяці тому

      Probably the anthurium longisimilobum but I don’t remember, this was filmed a while ago.

  • @sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887
    @sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 11 місяців тому +2

    Not only did I enjoy looking at all those gorgeous eye candy stunners which I will never afford, but also - yay, someone understands the correct meaning of 'decimate'!!!! Yes I am a word nerd as well as a plant one 🤣🤣🤣

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      It literally drives me CRAZY when people use it wrong especially since annihilate is right there! Glad you enjoyed ❤️✨🪴

    • @sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887
      @sunflowerhillhomesteadaust7887 11 місяців тому

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Me too, so many better, actually accurate words! Misused 'unique' bugs me too... its an absolute, there can be no 'quite unique', its 'one of' lol.
      I did, I always enjoy your content :) :)

  • @xiaoranmo7308
    @xiaoranmo7308 11 місяців тому +2

    just got my kunayalense with a 3 inch root for about 60 dollar

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      If that’s genuine then you got a hell of a deal

    • @xiaoranmo7308
      @xiaoranmo7308 11 місяців тому

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet the first leaf just come out pretty sure it's genuine

  • @Dieppaloveplants
    @Dieppaloveplants 11 місяців тому +2

    I got a Doc block black widow x michelle my daugther got it for me for my bday

  • @michelleconrey4171
    @michelleconrey4171 11 місяців тому

    👍🏼

  • @Meilkyboi
    @Meilkyboi 11 місяців тому +1

    Kinda sucks that most these are almost completely unattainable in Australia :(

  • @AmberlyPerez
    @AmberlyPerez 11 місяців тому

    You are so adorable! Are you in anthurium addicts?

  • @PearlyThePug
    @PearlyThePug 11 місяців тому +1

    So this entire video…. I died and came back to life because I remembered that I need to get my hands of some of these beauties in this lifetime….repeatedly 🤣😅. What a great and fun video!!! 🫶

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому

      Queue the meme of Taylor Swift saying “literally dead, RIP me” 🤣😝🪴✨❤️

  • @aroidpapa
    @aroidpapa 11 місяців тому +1

    I am first and foremost here for the usual Longissimilobum thirstiness....

  • @calebn5330
    @calebn5330 9 місяців тому +1

    Liked this video so it would reach 420 likes 😜

  • @Yourgoldenfuture
    @Yourgoldenfuture 2 місяці тому

    And in 12 months they'll all be half the price 😅

    • @Yourgoldenfuture
      @Yourgoldenfuture 2 місяці тому

      Carla prices have already decreased so much

  • @XxaborataxX
    @XxaborataxX 7 місяців тому

    Carlablackiae wasn't collected and brought to the us by carla black. It was collected by Croat and named after Carla Black. Get your facts straight

  • @ExpertAquariumGirl
    @ExpertAquariumGirl Місяць тому

    I think anthurium luxurians looks like a piece of Lacinato kale. 😆 Not a fan.

  • @fireleaf.exotics
    @fireleaf.exotics 11 місяців тому +2

    This and anthurium smash or pass was just 🤌🤌

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +2

      I was kind of surprised that smash or pass didn’t get very many views haha. I thought it was a fun one!

    • @fireleaf.exotics
      @fireleaf.exotics 11 місяців тому +2

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet it was so fun i cant believe so many people passed lol

    • @roxymoron12345
      @roxymoron12345 11 місяців тому +1

      I enjoyed smash or pass❤

    • @PlantFriendDownTheStreet
      @PlantFriendDownTheStreet  11 місяців тому +1

      Well maybe it will be a slow gainer… that happens sometimes

    • @paubel58
      @paubel58 11 місяців тому

      @@PlantFriendDownTheStreet i thought it was a fun idea but for me it went on too long and started to feel redundant... mainly because 95% of them were a pass (which is valid cause i also don't care for most variegated anthuriums) but id be interested in smash or pass for other groups of plants!