Insulated Concrete Form Product of the Year for 2020
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2020
- ThePerfectBlock.com
Insulated Concrete Form Product of the Year for 2020. Build for less than wood framing, fire-safe, hurricane and tornado safe, and simple to build.
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Living in California and looking for alternatives, we've found it. Thank you so much ❤️
Wow, love the idea of the mobile manufacturing for devastated areas. Great work!
This what we need in places like Kansas where we have Tornadoes .. GREAT PRODUCT!!
I already went to your website .. I'm going to use this for a house I am getting built ..
Really like the idea .LOOKS LIKE FUN BUILDING IT!!
U folks seem to know what u have n I like the way you can defend the product. Hope to see more of it.
THIS PRODUCT will revolutionize home construction in North America ONLY if the price will drop below traditional wood frame housing costs!!!!!!!!!
A pleasant relief ro see sensible productive people
SUPER IDEA . SUPER POMYSŁ . POZDRAWIAM .
Fantastic product.
Impressive stuff! Will look into it further. In the 1980's there was a product called "rastra". A Mc Donald's in Tempe, Arizona was built out of it in 1988. They have a plaque outside, detailing the unusual construction method. Your product seems to be better than theirs. Much success to you, thanks for the very fine presentation. I subscribed, you got my attention!
Great invention
What a handsome pair!
Concrete building have been the solution for a long time. The timber industry has gotten counties to spec timber framed buildings only when rebuilding after a catastrophe, so I hope you are able to get the codes changed.
THE FUTURE OF CONSTRUCCION
Looks interesting. I haven't seen it being used here in CT, although I would imagine it's costly when shipped from AZ.
Looks like Rastra block. I've had success cutting that block using the giant carbide toothed sawzall blades that get sold for cutting autoclaved aerated concrete. I love a building system that doesn't need drywall on the inside.
I built two buildings out of this stuff, actually, it was their competitor's block made exactly the same material but they had pre formed corner blocks also. We just plastered the interior and painted. Stucco on exterior, it was beautiful, comfortable and very! energy efficient.
@@oregonhoney753 Random question: for the interior, since there aren't traditional studs, how do people screw into the wall to hang stuff? Not sure if I'm phrasing it right. I assume the EPS+cement block can't hold screws like wood.
sounds interesting - would have been nice if they gave more info about what it is made of
It's recycled styrofoam and cement!
I really like this idea. Good interview.
Imagine if we worked together to expand this construction method to Brazil.
Our constructions don't stop. What do you think of that?
How do you attach wood, vinyl or metal siding to the exterior? Can you make block with a plastic vertical nailing strip embedded?
I heard several times how affordable it was but knew mention of the cost, what does it cost?
Is it moisture proof?
I don't live in the US, but I'm interested in this product.
Looking forward to getting in touch with you soon.
How much does a Perfect Block wall weigh compared to a 2x6 wall with insulation, exterior sheathing, and sheetrock? I would be building on a dock over water and pilings are expensive.
In Europe this type of construction is old tech but still holds well because is so easy to build with it and is earthquake proof......i wonder why here in the USA people still build houses of wood or let me say paper.
can you use this product to build ceilings and roofs?
Home many 10” asymmetric blocks can get stacked on a skid?
How can I get these for my project? Are they available through Menards?
amazing system, did you send blocks or build some houses in Philipinas?
Genuine question - why don’t the blocks get laid in a brick-like formation? Why not overlap them?
Is it cheaper to build with icf or the perfect block Do you have a plant in Canada
The space in this Blocks will later filled with concrete?
How does the price compare to a poured wall foundation with exterior insulation to the equivalent R value?
Can I mortar this together and just build leads and use string like I do with conventional CMU. Instead of using shims and foam to stay plumb/level
Nice....but whete...I can...buy...to build in México...
Can I use these for a pool ???
Will these work to replace a poured basement wall (that gets back filled) legally (according to code) in northeast Georgia? Would like to use something like this to avoid the poured wall contractor for a basement under a new house. Imagine a mountain building lot and the basement is dig out in the side of the hill with the second floor framed up on top of it. Poured walls are common here. But; what a hassle, expense and mess. Lastly, our building code has now demanded that all basements be back filled with washed #57 stone. No dirt! Better dig the basements perfectly tight and precise!
Whats different with aircrete?
how about hanging cabinets?
Is there any toxic off gassing?
I want a link of where to order it
Does this take more, less, or the same amount of concrete to fill as other ICF systems?
This wall system takes LESS cement to fill compared to other ICF systems
How can I get it in Massachusetts? I'm looking for something new and I'm sure I can turn alot of heads installing these on my own home
If I have to order this. Can you deliver to Namibia an will it come with the construction plan and so on
How does this method of construction fair in earthquakes and as a roof, how much soil can I cover a fourteen foot span with? Do you have "T's" or 45's?
What about water proofing.
Do you guys offer classes on instalation?
15 years and you forgot to mention your website: ! Cool stuff!
Do you sell or can I buy a kit with designs so I can get local permits?
What is the effective R value with your block. How high can you build the walls without reinforcement. Thank you.
R50 rating and you can build up to three strokes.
3 “strokes?”.... HELP
@@stephengreen2898 I think they were referring that you can stack the block 3 stories high without any reinforcement to hold the blocks straight.
GOOD BETTER BEST. BE BEST.
Where can you buy it?
"Going to change the industry..." ICF has been around for what, 40-50 years, and still almost NOBODY knows about it and contractors are scared to death of it.
@@theperfectblockiccf hi i'm seriously wondering why aren't more contractors using this its around so long?
from an amtures perspective it seems like a no brainer you can use unskilled labor=cheaper labor and it seems to take a lot quicker provides insulation???
seriously no disrespect intended any thoughts?
We love it. Fox block has been my all time favorite.
@@theperfectblockiccf do you have samples you can send to us? We are always in the market for new and improved products.
@@theperfectblockiccf Great answer...about the status quo of the wood industry. You really have to "hunt around" for some of the best product innovations out there. I have a friend of mine that was put out of business because his product worked too well. he would not patent it because these "entities" were seemingly colluding together as to how to mak a generic version of his product, and pawn it off on the American public. I call this "corporo-fascism". i hope that you guys become "wildly" successful!
What is the R-value on this?
the insert is a different color, does that suggest you are pouring the fill with plain cement?
What you see here is a mechanical x-ray. The cement was painted gray to make the display look nice.
Order a "grout mix", minimum 3000 psi, aggregate less than 3/8" (pea gravel if available), and an 8" to 10" slump
(the higher the slump, the more fluid the grout).
I'm building a property in Temecula n I know I'm going ICF.
did you start it yet? How is it to work with?
Iccf
Whats the cost, I'm in the northeast, can this be used as foundation block, is it moisture resistant.
Check Guildbrook Farm channel they building thier house with this.
Stagger the joints
How much for a regular house ?
What are the sizes of your blocks? How do you figure t he amount of concrete you will need to fill the blocks? Do you have a rep in New Mexico?
@@theperfectblockiccf question do you have an distributor in puerto rico? I live here and i think this would be perfect seller here. Please contact me at donmateolk@gmail.com thank you
They have different sizes available. All their blocks are four foot long and one foot tall. The widths of their blocks differ from 10inch(highest insulated), 8 inch, or 6 inch depending on your build. They have two different 10 inch blocks available, one is for higher insulation and the other has a larger core for the harsh weather's (earthquakes, tornados, etc)
I'm really impressed. Simplified, strong, sustainable and structural.
One question please. What's the R value withe the concrete pour and without?
No answer huh?
@@beebob1279 The block is R-32
Will it work for basements??
Absolutely, I've seen many basements done with this
looks like a latices of concrete not a solid structure. How does it go in deep basement/cellar situation?
I immediately noticed the unbroken vertical seams ! Basic common practice has prevailed that a structure is stronger when joints are staggered . Just look back say to the Inca’s great structures . Better be redoing your video
as the forms aren't load bearing i doubt it would really make any difference either way.
Joey Schuszler you could be correct, however maintaining alignment seams would be a problem concrete placed placed with pump truck is delivered with an irregular pulse . That could cause a shifting of the form , my lack of knowledge of this process is very limited . I’m not schooled on it
@@thedude4632 From watching a couple of assembly videos, it appears as if the joints of the block are glued together which would eliminate much of the risk of misaligned blocks and provide a tight seal between forms. I know from many other manufacturers use something similar to a tongue and groove system to lock blocks together. The biggest problem i've seen with misaligned blocks has been walls shifting out of plumb. Though i've never personally worked with this system.
@@theperfectblockiccf Could you explain it again? Because I agree with Meredith. Staggered seams would strengthen it immensely.
Why do you not stagger / alternate the Joints in the Video ?
I want to buy land in a Texas. Will this product work well there
Absolutely
What about compressive strength. How high can we build?
It can be engineered to build as high as you'd like
What is the R-Factor you can anticipate?
Their highest insulated block is an R-32, and that's the bare block with nothing done to it/without concrete filling
How do I invest in your Company?
Any plans to release this in the UK/Europe?
@@theperfectblockiccf one of the best new systems I've seen - can't wait for this to come to UK/EU. Would you be manufacturing in UK or importing from US?
R factor? Unless that system is r 40 you still need to frame and insulate. Then back to old fashioned nails and screws for the drywall.
Can it do round shape wall?
Yes! The possibilities are endless with this block! I've seen multiple round walls done with this product
What about moisture wicking...
Treat as any other product.
How do you retrofit electrical or wires with this system?
A handsaw will cut this block, on the jobsites they use a chainsaw for speed ofcourse. I've seen mostly people use chainsaw to cut a groove in the surface of the wall where they need electrical/plumbing and then they simply run the wires through the groove, and use the expanding foam glue to "tack" them in place
How bullet resistant is it?
@@theperfectblockiccf awesome product! Very exciting.
What's the cost???
What about waterproofing?
Not necessary unless you're doing a basement then you need to waterproof!
I haven't seen but 1 person talk about using this in a cold climate. And they said not to use it... I would think that the R40 would be good . I'm going to down load building information and try to learn more about this way of building. But I don't see any difference from ICF. Can some one explain?
Alicia! Who said not to use it? Not us. This block is perfect for all climates. Hot or cold, insulation is essential! Not hot or cold where you are? How about building a house that is super quiet and won't burn down?
If you have to ask the price usually means it's expensive, or they would be bragging about like the fire and wind resistance.
Response to safffff1000 from Eco Building Systems Corp
Your comment: safffff1000
, If you have to ask the price usually means it's expensive, or they would be bragging about like the fire and wind resistance.
My comment: Are you asking for the price for our ICCF block? Which one? We manufacture 10 different ICCF building elements. The price is no secret, contact us through our website, we'll send you a price list. I don't know how I would have worked the price for all our elements into the short video infomercial that you remarked about, but I'll brag about the price now. The Perfect Block ICCF costs less than wood framing! Do you think wood framing is expensive? Most of North America is still building with wood, they must think they are getting a good deal. Well, gray block ICCF is a better deal than wood. Want to know more? Call me, Rick Tindal, but expect me to brag about all the great things that gray block ICCF provides and performs over all other currently used building materials. No brag, just fact. Don't believe me? Name one. Name just one.
It's extremely easy to say the cost of sq ft prices of a wall. For example, our wall is between $20 /sq ft - 30 sg ft compared to $40/ sq ft for the average wood frame with insulation. Now was that hard. I went to your web site and didn't see a price there or comparison.
I'm use to that technique to having me contact you for one to talk to a sales person to sell the product. I don't know you or anybody that does. So I shop around by reading descriptions and prices. that so called price list you can send me well just post it, is that hard?
I think from what I've seen you have great product. Why you are ashamed to prove it by listing prices is beyond me. Don't give me the fact that every job is difference, ever here of ball park.
@@safffff1000
Response to safffff1000 from Eco Building Systems Corp
My response: Point taken! An example cost: For our top of the line form, the 10" Asymmetric ICCF is $25 a form (all our forms provide 4 square feet of wall area). Estimated cost for a completed (forms plus concrete grout and rebar) 10" Asymmetric ICCF wall without exterior or interior cladding (stucco and drywall) and excluding labor is approximately $9 a square foot. I excluded cladding because there are several ways to clad the wall and labor varies from region to region and whether you are an owner/builder or hired contractor. You are correct, we do not have a price list on our website, but there is a reason. We are not salesmen, we are builders and manufacturers, and gray block ICCF is essentially an unknown commodity to the world of construction and competition is fierce from more established and well funded building materials. We have felt that trying to motivate someone to investigate further and actually speak with us, gives us the opportunity to educate folks about gray block ICCF, not sell the product. We expect people to do their own diligence and vet us and do there own comparison research. When this is done, The Perfect Block sells itself.
I want to thank you for commenting on our product and our presentation methods. You have motivated us to discuss and reassess our website and presentation. I encourage you to continue to comment on us. I actually enjoy the friendly sparring. And who knows? I might win you over.
@@tanktindal Thank you so much for the additional info. I think it would encourage more calls when people see the info. Plus I'm sure competitors can act just as buyers and call you for info. Want more exposure, build walls and make stunt video's youtubes. trying to destroy them in various ways. Do it in public demos for local TV. Drive cars or trucks into them.Ect.
@@safffff1000 Response to safffff1000 from Eco Building Systems Corp
My response: Point taken! An example cost: For our top of the line form, the 10" Asymmetric ICCF is $25 a form (all our forms provide 4 square feet of wall area). Estimated cost for a completed (forms plus concrete grout and rebar) 10" Asymmetric ICCF wall without exterior or interior cladding (stucco and drywall) and excluding labor is approximately $9 a square foot. I excluded cladding because there are several ways to clad the wall and labor varies from region to region and whether you are an owner/builder or hired contractor. You are correct, we do not have a price list on our website, but there is a reason. We are not salesmen, we are builders and manufacturers, and gray block ICCF is essentially an unknown commodity to the world of construction and competition is fierce from more established and well funded building materials. We have felt that trying to motivate someone to investigate further and actually speak with us, gives us the opportunity to educate folks about gray block ICCF, not sell the product. We expect people to do their own diligence and vet us and do there own comparison research. When this is done, The Perfect Block sells itself.
I want to thank you for commenting on our product and our presentation methods. You have motivated us to discuss and reassess our website and presentation. I encourage you to continue to comment on us. I actually enjoy the friendly sparring. And who knows? I might win you over.
How much?
Can I build a 20 story apartment building with this material?
Absolutely
whats with the shims and spray foam? I get using spray foam to glue them together but whats with the shims, are they not squared off? It just seems like an inefficient way to bond them together, I can imagine a work site with 59,000,000 shims stuck to the deck with spray foam glue.
Response to Johnny B from Eco Building Systems Corp
Your comment: whats with the shims and spray foam? I get using spray foam to glue them together but whats with the shims, are they not squared off? It just seems like an inefficient way to bond them together, I can imagine a work site with 59,000,000 shims stuck to the deck with spray foam glue.
My response: 59 million shims on the deck? Really? Our forms are precision made but because we are meticulous builders as well as an ICCF manufacturer, a small deviation from plumb in a wall as we stack course after course is unacceptable. So we use shims to bring our courses of forms into perfect plumb and foam adhesive to ensure that the small effort expended with a level to stack a perfect wall remains perfect. Clients should expect nothing less from a builder who is proud of his work. When the glue dries, we collect the shims and reuse them on the next job. They aren't glued to the deck. The build methods we use are not inefficient to us. Foam adhesive and shims creates a monolithic wall system with straight and level and plumb walls to easily fill with steel and concrete to make a precision house as strong as a fortress. We are not opposed to using more efficient methods to achieve the same results. So if you have better ideas than us to make us more efficient, please comment and share them.
@@tanktindal OK, I think I get it. I was wondering why not use a mortar and set them like bricks but that more dense mortar would act like a thermal conductor and degrade the insinuative quality of the wall right? That's why the spray foam, its insinuative quality is same of better. now I was thinking of better ways to hold the bricks plumb why the spray foam stiffens that would be better than shims and I'm hard pressed to think of another way that wouldn't be more expensive than shims. since shims are so cheap , that ever system I come up with has to have more value added than just holding the wall plumb temporarily. my first thought is of suspending a fixture inside the cell in the block, that would make a stack more uniform so that minimal if any plumbing of the wall would be required. The value added would be time. I think you see this in your foam block ICFs and the fixtures are embedded in the concrete during the pours.
Response to safffff1000 from Eco Building Systems Corp
Your comment: safffff1000
, If you have to ask the price usually means it's expensive, or they would be bragging about like the fire and wind resistance.
My comment: Are you asking for the price for our ICCF block? Which one? We manufacture 10 different ICCF building elements. The price is no secret, contact us through our website, we'll send you a price list. I don't know how I would have worked the price for all our elements into the short video infomercial that you remarked about, but I'll brag about the price now. The Perfect Block ICCF costs less than wood framing! Do you think wood framing is expensive? Most of North America is still building with wood, they must think they are getting a good deal. Well, gray block ICCF is a better deal than wood. Want to know more? Call me, Rick Tindal, but expect me to brag about all the great things that gray block ICCF provides and performs over all other currently used building materials. No brag, just fact. Don't believe me? Name one. Name just one.
How do you manufacture this?
The Perfect Block Composite ICF / ICCF Block make a video on that :)
How the perfect block can be recycled ?
same way that the EPS, grind and mix with EPS and concrete again
The benefits of this product are for the developer/GC industry. Quicker/cheaper builds.
How the end user/home owner benefits remains to be seen.
Could this be done in other countries, like Philippines?
Absolutely! It is perfect for island construction or areas that are vulnerable to extreme weather.
@Amalia Sundstrom ... it could be done almost everywhere in the world. The problem would be the shipping cost that makes it not affordable. Not only for your case
"...a fireproof block." What temperature can they withstand, in a fire, say.
@@theperfectblockiccf Thank you.
EPS? Please explain. Nevermind, googled so its styrofoam based.
Yes, but how does it stand up to a tidal wave or tsunami??
😵😂😂
A lot better than a stick built house!
You realize that 4 FOOT thick concrete seawalls have been shifted by tidal waves, right?
So the answer is "It depends".
How fast is the wave surge? (How much [kinetic] energy does it have?)
How thick / deep is the wave surge?
What angle is the wave hitting the wall?
What debris is being carried with the water?
This is going to be more stable than cinder block construction but not as strong as a solid concrete wall (the FOOTING and how well the wall is anchored to the foundation counts. And is there any bracing like cross walls or corners to take the sideways loads generated by a wave?
No ties, no internal fastening system.
WHY aren't the blocks staggered?
none of the blocks are really load bearing. once the concrete sets its really a monolithic wall and the staggering of the blocks would provide no real increase in strength.
You don’t need to Stagger Joints?
Great looking system, are there any dealers in the Massachusetts area
How does it hold up as basement walls and waterproofing?
@@theperfectblockiccf What product do you use for the waterproofing? Is it those peel and stick sheets or something rolled on? Thank you.
what about cost
@@theperfectblockiccf better yet ..do a video cost comparison to traditional stick framing /labor materials long term energy savings ect
Hi I live in the USA .How do I contact you ?
Shouldn’t she be alternating the bricks/joints instead of just laying same block on top others?
In every video you see them installing them exactly on top of each other joint over joint and I am wondering why they don't stagger the joints like for strength?
We stagger out of habit but not necessary
@@Texas_Bricklady
Pardon
Rick, I only have 1 concern with your ICCF. It seems like it would be entirely possible for someone to punch a whole in a block from the outside? Compared to a normal plywood or OSB sheathing, how much will your ICCF resist a rock from a lawnmower, or a bonehead walking into it with a 2x4?
It's filled with concrete.... So not likely
@@daveklein2826 The concrete is honeycomb, so there are areas of the wall that are just foam.
@@sheldoncook87 LMAO
@@sheldoncook87 it's not just foam though, it's foam mixed with cement and when it's cured the blocks become very hardened (they're cured before they ship them out). Also, you would clad the block with a finisher.. (stucco/drywall/tile/etc)
I know with ICF's there's a lot of bracing that happens so that during the pour the blocks don't get out of square or out of plum. I didn't see any of that in any of the videos.
@@theperfectblockiccf Yes, that's nice, but how does that work then? Can you point me to some place that explains how that stays plum/square?
@@theperfectblockiccf Thank you. very helpful this seems like a great option for crawlspaces for my use. Can I attach "things" to this on the inside and outside? Outside would be waterproofing primer, membrane and then securing to the form. Inside would be IPS foam. Do you do the install or does someone else? i.e homeowner or builder. Are there installation materials I can look at. Any special considerations for the slab?
Those forms don't look like they weigh that much when people are carrying them in the video.