It has a bit of a flat spot from 4-6k rpm. I had my cbr650r ECU flashed and it made a huge difference. Also got full racing exhaust, quick shifter, and performance air filter. Mine can even beat an r6 depending on which gear we start in. It’s a seriously amazing bike.
@@180FiftyFive it actually can in second gear. The torque on the cbr kicks in pretty fast. And by the time the r6 revs high enough to blast past, it’s already put distance between it. So yes it can out race an r6 or beat it in a drag race. Notice how I said certain gear, overall an r6 is obviously the more powerful bike…
@@180FiftyFive also the r6 having higher hp and and higher top end will always beat a cbr if you both hit top speeds. But cbr can still gap it early on.
Got back into biking after 35 years! Bought a new CBR500 in Sept and already covered 2K miles riding through the Yorkshire Dales and beyond. I feel I will be ready for an upgrade in a few months and very tempted by the CBR650... a very informative review ...great thanks!
(Neil Sanderson) same story hadn’t been on bike since I was 17, I’m now 54, got the cbr500 put about 4800 miles on it over a year, then upgraded to the cbr650r, which was a very smooth transition, very similar until you go over 7000revs, both great bikes!
I just dont understand how people could throw away this beautiful exhaust and shove in an ugly furnace pipe instead ... this blends into the bike so perfectly like its a piece of art
I love this bike. Looks as sporty as you'd like and can keep up with most bikes out there in the twisties. Obviously it's not going to keep up with the modern 1000cc sport bikes, but, if you're looking for a sporty every day bike that can be fun on the weekends and has enough but sensible power, this is a great option. A Great second bike for a young sport bike fan. A little heavy, but shouldn't be a problem for anyone with a little bit of bike experience. 💖💖👏🏼👏🏼
I live in Thailand This bike is assembled here. Endless aftermarket parts It has been the #1 best selling bike in the country for over 5 years I see at least 2 on the road every single day
Hey Mark I have 2019 model for almost two years now and I wanted to share my take on the bike. 1- As you ride past 6k-10k kms vibrations start to taper off. If you buy 90-ish octane fuel or lower, this bike will definitely vibrate. With 100 octane fuel or higher, you'll get nothing until 8k-9k rpms. 2- I found that if you ride in rain, you'll definitely see rain spray coming all the way up to upper triple camp from the front wheel because of the way front fairing is designed. 3- I don't know the asphalt quality in UK but in my country, it's not very safe to use the stock tires especially in the rain. Overall, I think this is the most affordable semi-super-sport bike in the market right now. Now that every manufacturer is moving towards in-line 2 bikes, it is nice to see Honda sticking to good old in-line four. It's really good for fun mountain roads or some track days. it's good-ish in terms of comfort and ride-ability in heavy downtown traffic. Thanks for these videos, cheers mate.
What a great review Mark . In fact it made me go out and buy one . Picking it up tomorrow , so thanks again . I do like the bit when you go and sit on the bike to show us how high it is . Keep them coming
Hi had a black one since May 21 very impressed with the bike I agree with you engine , clutch , gearbox , and suspension all very good I'm 60 yrs old and it's a comfortable riding position even after 2hrs All in all a very good bike
I had a CBR650F when they first came out in 2014 and was a lovely bike. I rode the R when it first came out and it was better I many respects, but let down badly by a screen you couldn't see and poor fuel economy. If I had the money it would be a consideration for a 2nd bike. It's good value for money and with the extra bhp and Honda reliability I think it beats the new R7 hands down.
@No_Name Fuel economy on the CBR650F was staggering. The published figures for the R were dreadful. If you're buying something as a commuter you want something that's going to be better than the car, and that is/was not.
@No_Name It's a commuter/sports tourer. 90bhp is linear across the rev band. It, like the R7 and "Ninja" 650 is a bit of an insult to CBR. Nice bike, don't get me wrong but not a wannabe Fireblade.
Great review Mark. I have bought 2 bikes you have reviewed in the past . The kawasaki ninja 650 and the Honda cbr650r. Got to say I prefer the inline 4 of the Honda. Keep up the good work 👏
Thanks for this review mark. Ive got the 2022 model on order. Shortage of demonstration models meant that no test ride available. Pulling review helped the decision
I bought cbr 600f 2011 (pc41) that was registered first time 2015, from first owner with 18k miles on it and decent service book. Payd around 5000€ for it (in Finland these sell 6-7 grand). Few more ponies than 650, not too close to supersport ergonomics eighter. Honda combined abs system, semi adjustable usd suspension in front and back, very good bike. I think it's little peppier than 650r, wouldn't maybe recommend for first bike but what a lovely little sports tourer it is! I think 600f pc41 is "father of today's 650r" if can say so :) anyway, really good bikes, and the slipper clutch is really nice feature!
I passed my A2 on Friday. This will be my first motorcycle under the A2 restrictions. Can’t wait, I’m hoping to buy the 2021 model and keep it for the long term, so in 2 years I’ll have twice the power once it’s de-restricted after I’ve got my A licence. Great review! Thank you 🔥
These look good like a mini fireblade. I have an ‘11 CBR600F ABS which have had 7 years. It such a good bike have kept it that long. 101 bhp is nearly as fast as an RR and a lot more comfy. Handling is good though don’t think it’ll be as good as this but that’s a lot newer. As an all rounder it’s been excellent. This looks to like would be a fun allrounder with decent running costs. Honda build on mine has been really good used all year round. I wouldn’t recommend getting a tail tidy if you use it all year round because in winter it just shits all back end up with no mudguard. I had one then put the original plate holder back on.
Love the video, nobody has anything bad to say about them, trailed the cb 650r was so impressed ordered my new cbr and get in April can’t wait to get the miles on it 🙂
Hi Mark, thanks for your fantastic down to earth reviews! Quick question…how does the CBR650R compare to a 2019 GSx750 both in terms of ride and ergonomics? Thanks again for your great reviews and help. Geoff
Hi Geoff ....gsxr750 has way more power than cbr650 ...but it's quite a radical riding position the CBR is much more comfortable....think of it as the gsxr is racer on the road uncompromising and the CBR is a much more road focused sports bike Cheers mark
Finding it hard to justify moving up to this from the cbr500. The tires, brakes and some other equipment for the 650 are a step above but in the real world the 500s are perfectly capable of getting the job done and it does other things the same (blinkers, lcd screen, mirrors) if not even better (weight, price, fairing)
the stock cbr500 comes with Michelin Road 5 tyres which are probably the best of the best for street use, and the stock cbr650 comes with Dunlop Sportmax D214 which is far from the best
Greets from Russia and thanx for the vid! I am considering getting a more asphalt-riding pair to my Honda ATAS'20, and your video helped a lot. Seems to be the perfect sportbike-wannabe for non extreme and joyful driving around Moscow. Just what I am looking for!
Great review Mark. I currently have a 2019 ninja 650, i passed my test a few months back. I'm already wanting a quicker more sportier bike, do you think the CBR650R would be a good upgrade or more of a sidestep from what I have now? Does it feel much quicker?
Hi yes it has 90 ish HP vs your 65 HP and 4 cylinders feels very different and smother but maybe look at something like a 2015 zx6$6 ...it's in another league of performance but quite a sporty position Cheers mark
Hi Mark, thanks for the videos. They are all really good and really informative! I’m currently a learner rider living in New Zealand and I ride a Royal Enfield gt 535. Im looking at getting the new cbr650r pearl spencer blue or the triumph street triple S 660. Im about your weight and height …. Do you think these bikes are a good choice for a leaner or should I get something smaller? Cheers mate!!!
I wonder why Honda doesn't have a threaded rear spool provision on these bikes like many other bikes do. It's something that ought to be standard, especially on a "sport" style bike. What are they thinking? Non adjustable forks? For the same price the R7 is looking like a better setup.
ive just joined the biker world and was looking for a first bike, as this looks amazing and sounds good after your review is it recommended as a first?
Another excellent review there Mark. I'm a fan of this particular Honda Model as I think it's such a great all rounder and also suitable for shorter riders too! In your experience Mark, is the 2021 dash really that much brighter than the previous models? I've only got the 19 plate version so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts - I've not actually had any problems seeing dash - even when riding directly into the sunset with no tinted visor :)
Hi Andrew ..you'd think it's obviously the cbr because it's more powerful but the ninja at 65 hp is still great Depends on your budget really and what you fits you better ,I think money no object I'd go for the cbr Cheers mark
Got the first 2021 model in NZ in smokey grey and people look at it everywhere i go. I added quick shifter, seat cowl and few extras too. It is very nice looking bike.
Hi money no object I'd go for the CBR feels bit more refined with its inline 4,but if you get a great deal on the ninja it's probably better value Cheers mark
Excellent vid. Have you reviewed the naked CB650r? I've had mine for 2 years and it's been great (apsrt from very vibey midrange). Thinking of a trade in for the new MT09, however. I'd like your opinion.
Thanks to your informative review ive now ordered the 2022 cbr650r. The local dealer (and honda) appear silent on delivery times. Do you have any insider info? Thanks.
Hi Jon great choice...no sorry I have no news for you on delivery times etc on these ...the NC 750 is in short supply aswell The wait will be worth it 🙂 Cheers mark
The only thing i can dislike on this bike is the absence of tech other than ABS. It's just a basic CB500 line up bike but with 650cc. Let's compare with a Ninja 1000SX onboard tech, there is no question. For this reason I will go on the Kawasaki, even if i love the Honda design.
Mark I'm a big fan of your reviews, Your one of the best bike reviewer's on the net. Any chance you can tell me what riding gear your wearing it looks really cool? Thanks mate.
Thanks for the review. Another quality product from Big H, oozing class and value. For the money a great package and great all rounder, but……the engine isn’t as characterful or playful as Yamaha’s MT-07. You really need to cane the CBR at the top of the Rev band to the best out of it; the Yammy has the better bottom and mid-range grunt and is less tiring to ride. Would still consider buying the CBR, however.
Great review Mark, I love that bike so much. I am debating getting that or the CB650R. I still haven’t made my mind up as I like them both equally. Love the sound of that engine and it just looks amazing. See you on the next one 👍🏻
@cbr 2020 yeah you are right with that one. I love naked bikes as much as faired bikes. To be fair the CB will be easier to ride and easier to maintain and clean etc Iam more swinging towards the CB as it still packs a punch with that engine. A classic looking bike with modern technology. 👍🏻
Weird question.. I currently have a Ducati scrambler but recently getting numb hands and starting to think it’s the vibrations. Never had it when I owned a CBR or my GSXR… thinking a 4 cylinder maybe has less vibrations.. do you think this could be correct? It’s kind of ruining the rides of late.. cheers
Yes inline 4s are generally smoother ...you can still get buzzy vibes in the midrange...the monster is particularly thumpy I would say but as a comparison my KTM 790 duke twin is super smooth Best wishes mark
Great bike! Collecting mine on Thursday. Just wondering but what are your trousers called. I’ve been looking for them but can’t seem to find their name.
Very nice mark review of Honda 650r great bike are you going do a review of the Honda 125 pcx mark as that scooter I am thinking of getting thanks mark hope you don't mind me asking
No probs Andrew I'd love to get hold of a pcx but dealerships don't tend to have them on demo because the insurance is so high for young riders ? That's what crescent told me anyway cheers mark
The 650 was the last on the show room floor as the 1000 range were on back order with the colour the buyer wanted. It is ok as a 650 but not able to punch like the 1000. This was also when they bought in the 650 level for beginners at licensing restriction that was never authorized. Making or forcing the sale of 650 from the stores. The 1000 is the only way to go unless your having grand prix works riding on a 650 in a race or class. Even then it is not 650 any more so still the 1000 is the choice of great honda riders as the outlet was told to her. Mmmm AFFA angels never die HMS
MARK IAM DOING MY MOD 2 AND BEEN LOOKING AT THE KAWASAKI NINJA KRT 650 CAUSE THE HANDEL BARS ARE RIGHT ✅ UP I LIKE THIS HONDA cbr 650 BUT THE HANDEL BARS LOOK LOWER DOWN
Hi yes the CBR bars are a little lower than the ninja but they are still above the top yoke ...it isn't an extreme position as like on the fire blade... It's very comfortable for a sports bike ....I'd go for the honda Best wishes mark
Thinking the same , on a cbf 125 at the moment after my CBT 2 months ago , doing my DAS in a few months . Git my theory next week. Nice bike along with the cafe Nero which I’m considering .
Hi Mark, i am wondering if there is possibility to make a review of Macbor Montana xr5 ,AKA Daytona Maverick 500 if they are present in british market? It is quite interesting byke.
Hi Jim the Honda it's definitely more comfortable ,better for longer journeys ,it's tuned for low and mid range ...but the ninja 636 is in a different league altogether performance wise ..it matches the Honda mid range then leaves it for dead at the top end ...it's more track focused for sure ....not really an everyday bike whereas the Honda is Cheers mark
Thanks as always, Mark. Very nice offering from Honda. I like the looks, the sound, and the handling appears to be great. But, without the cruise control, it doesn't check the touring box for me. Like the new 2022 Triumph Speed Twin, there is no cruise control option. Whereas, the rest of the Bonneville lineup offers cruise control. What kind of sense does that make? Will you be reviewing the 2022 Speed Twin. It appears to have addictive handling and performance, according to Carole Nash. The downs are low gas mileage, crappy front fender (so short it doesn't even protect the radiator from stones, let alone drenching the rider in rain), and of course, no cruise control. But it is really light bike, at 474 pounds wet, for a 1200 cc engine. It has 100 ps for this year with 82 ft lbs of torque. Incredible low end pull... noticably more pull than the new Honda 1100 Rebel. Then there is that sound of that 270° twin. They modulated it just right. Seems very soothing together with that pull. Gord
Hi Gord I'd love to review the triumphs but my local ish ( an hour away ) dealership franchise has their own marketing dept and aren't interested in lending me bikes to review ...but I could always just blag itt and just take it out for a test ride for myself ,!! :)
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark... you're impressions would be of great interest. I was wondering why you hadn't reviewed any Triumphs. Now I understand... I have an issue with Triumph's marketing. They appear to be billing their 2022 model as a 2021 year release, calling it the 2021 Speed Twin. This is very confusing because when people see that they think it's the 2021 model year. It isn't... the 2021 model year doesn't have any of the most recent 2022 upgrades. Thus, when people go shopping they are looking for a 2021 Speed Twin, thinking they are getting the latest offering. They aren't. But they sure are helping the Triumph dealers get rid of their 2021 model year stock that have been sitting on the showroom floors for the past year. The Speed Twin started to be their biggest seller but after the Covid crap, that screwed their sales for 2020. They look to be sneaking the 2021 models out the back door under pretext to relieve their dealers. At least that's my impression based upon what I'm seeing. There'se simply no honest justification for billing the 2022 as the 2021, based upon release date. Gord
Nice review Mark, a question however. This costs more than six times the price you paid for your '97 CBR600F3. Is it six times better, six times more fun? Which would you buy with your own hard earned cash?
Hi Colin. Very good point no it's definitely better feels more modern ,sharper ,better brakes and suspension but not six times better/fun a decent amount better :) Cheers mark
What a weird question they are 2 completely different bikes with 25 years difference. Any 25 year old bike or car is going to be 6 times cheaper than a 2021 model. You cant then ask if its worth it?!
@@londonsounds6212 I disagree. Many are caught in the keeping up with the Jones' trap and think they must buy the newest thing. I've got a new Triumph Trident 660 and a 23 year old CBR600 F3 which I bought with the comfort of seeing Mark's review. The 23 year old CBR is fantastic, it's back to basic fun, bullet proof and cost buttons. I prefer its basic fun to that of the Trident. If you've not tried one, I'd suggest you do.
In my opinion the CBR 600 f3 is still a brilliant all rounder even today this looks a great bike but would it be worth trading a well serviced tidy f3 in against one and parting with my hard earned 💰 Mark
This would be the perfect do-everything bike if it had a bit more power. 90hp is about 30hp too sensible for me. This but with 800ish cc and about 130hp would be a perfect machine for me. At least Honda haven't sold out to cheapo parallel twins like most of the others.
It has a bit of a flat spot from 4-6k rpm. I had my cbr650r ECU flashed and it made a huge difference. Also got full racing exhaust, quick shifter, and performance air filter. Mine can even beat an r6 depending on which gear we start in. It’s a seriously amazing bike.
Sounds. Great with those upgrades !
lol yeah if the R6 starts in 6th? its a nice bike but dont kid yourself, its not going to outrace an R6
@@180FiftyFive it actually can in second gear. The torque on the cbr kicks in pretty fast. And by the time the r6 revs high enough to blast past, it’s already put distance between it. So yes it can out race an r6 or beat it in a drag race. Notice how I said certain gear, overall an r6 is obviously the more powerful bike…
@@180FiftyFive also the r6 having higher hp and and higher top end will always beat a cbr if you both hit top speeds. But cbr can still gap it early on.
Hi, would you say the performance air filter was a noticeable upgrade?
I picked up mine in June and i absolutely love it, a fantastic bike for the price.
Thanks for the comment Steven ...yes a great sports bike :)
@dominictrnexus I haven't experienced any issues with that problem. I'd get in touch with the dealership and take it back for them to check it over.
Thanks for the review,just passed my test last week at 52yrs Young.
I'll be booking a test ride for this👍
Thanks Andrew we are the same age
Good luck with your biking career 👍
Cheers mark
Got back into biking after 35 years! Bought a new CBR500 in Sept and already covered 2K miles riding through the Yorkshire Dales and beyond. I feel I will be ready for an upgrade in a few months and very tempted by the CBR650... a very informative review ...great thanks!
(Neil Sanderson) same story hadn’t been on bike since I was 17, I’m now 54, got the cbr500 put about 4800 miles on it over a year, then upgraded to the cbr650r, which was a very smooth transition, very similar until you go over 7000revs, both great bikes!
Have one and love it! Have done over 6000km the last two months. Think you nailed this review!
Thanks terje my pleasure
Regards mark
Another very informative and interesting review Mark 👏, you just about cover everything that new buyers need to know. Keep up the Great reviews 👍
Thanks David my pleasure :)
Great all round sports bike 👍
I just dont understand how people could throw away this beautiful exhaust and shove in an ugly furnace pipe instead ... this blends into the bike so perfectly like its a piece of art
I love this bike. Looks as sporty as you'd like and can keep up with most bikes out there in the twisties. Obviously it's not going to keep up with the modern 1000cc sport bikes, but, if you're looking for a sporty every day bike that can be fun on the weekends and has enough but sensible power, this is a great option. A Great second bike for a young sport bike fan. A little heavy, but shouldn't be a problem for anyone with a little bit of bike experience. 💖💖👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks Roy you summed it up perfectly :)
Cheers mark
I live in Thailand
This bike is assembled here. Endless aftermarket parts
It has been the #1 best selling bike in the country for over 5 years
I see at least 2 on the road every single day
Thanks for the comment ,,great bike cheers mark
This bike has a such fantastic value for money ratio in my country (EU). We owe a 'Thank you' to this Honda plant in Thailand!
Picked mine up in July and loving every second, just had the first service, can’t wait to take it on long distances
Great choice cheers mark
Very impressive machine, I like it that Honda focuses more on user friendly bikes which are reliable and satisfactorily impressive.
Couldn't agree more!
The best 650 in the market hands down 💯
Hey Mark I have 2019 model for almost two years now and I wanted to share my take on the bike.
1- As you ride past 6k-10k kms vibrations start to taper off. If you buy 90-ish octane fuel or lower, this bike will definitely vibrate.
With 100 octane fuel or higher, you'll get nothing until 8k-9k rpms.
2- I found that if you ride in rain, you'll definitely see rain spray coming all the way up to upper triple camp from the front wheel because of the way front fairing is designed.
3- I don't know the asphalt quality in UK but in my country, it's not very safe to use the stock tires especially in the rain.
Overall, I think this is the most affordable semi-super-sport bike in the market right now. Now that every manufacturer is moving towards in-line 2 bikes, it is nice to see Honda sticking to good old in-line four. It's really good for fun mountain roads or some track days. it's good-ish in terms of comfort and ride-ability in heavy downtown traffic.
Thanks for these videos, cheers mate.
Thanks great comment deniz
What a great review Mark . In fact it made me go out and buy one . Picking it up tomorrow , so thanks again . I do like the bit when you go and sit on the bike to show us how high it is . Keep them coming
Thanks Paul .... great choice
Awesome machine :)
Hi had a black one since May 21 very impressed with the bike I agree with you engine , clutch , gearbox , and suspension all very good
I'm 60 yrs old and it's a comfortable riding position even after 2hrs
All in all a very good bike
Thanks for the comment alex 😉
I had a CBR650F when they first came out in 2014 and was a lovely bike. I rode the R when it first came out and it was better I many respects, but let down badly by a screen you couldn't see and poor fuel economy. If I had the money it would be a consideration for a 2nd bike. It's good value for money and with the extra bhp and Honda reliability I think it beats the new R7 hands down.
@No_Name Fuel economy on the CBR650F was staggering. The published figures for the R were dreadful. If you're buying something as a commuter you want something that's going to be better than the car, and that is/was not.
@No_Name Honda advertise figures significantly lower (49mpg) than that, but I get better than that on average on my 890 Tracer so, is it that good?
@No_Name It's a commuter/sports tourer. 90bhp is linear across the rev band. It, like the R7 and "Ninja" 650 is a bit of an insult to CBR. Nice bike, don't get me wrong but not a wannabe Fireblade.
One of my favorite middleweight rides just wish the blue was available for all markets it’s really nice
Great review Mark. I have bought 2 bikes you have reviewed in the past . The kawasaki ninja 650 and the Honda cbr650r. Got to say I prefer the inline 4 of the Honda. Keep up the good work 👏
Thanks for the feedback...yes inline 4s are nice cheers mark
Thanks for this review mark. Ive got the 2022 model on order. Shortage of demonstration models meant that no test ride available. Pulling review helped the decision
Hands down one of the best if not the best mid-size sports bikes on the market.
I bought cbr 600f 2011 (pc41) that was registered first time 2015, from first owner with 18k miles on it and decent service book. Payd around 5000€ for it (in Finland these sell 6-7 grand). Few more ponies than 650, not too close to supersport ergonomics eighter. Honda combined abs system, semi adjustable usd suspension in front and back, very good bike. I think it's little peppier than 650r, wouldn't maybe recommend for first bike but what a lovely little sports tourer it is! I think 600f pc41 is "father of today's 650r" if can say so :) anyway, really good bikes, and the slipper clutch is really nice feature!
I passed my A2 on Friday. This will be my first motorcycle under the A2 restrictions. Can’t wait, I’m hoping to buy the 2021 model and keep it for the long term, so in 2 years I’ll have twice the power once it’s de-restricted after I’ve got my A licence. Great review! Thank you 🔥
Great choice what a first bike !
Good luck with your biking career 👍
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 much appreciated mark! Keep up the great content
I did the same however got impatient and had mine derestricted after a year. Massive difference
Mark you were born to do this. I trust yiur judgement. Very informative. Love your work. Keep them coming. Well done mate.
Thanks for the kind words :)
These look good like a mini fireblade. I have an ‘11 CBR600F ABS which have had 7 years. It such a good bike have kept it that long. 101 bhp is nearly as fast as an RR and a lot more comfy. Handling is good though don’t think it’ll be as good as this but that’s a lot newer. As an all rounder it’s been excellent. This looks to like would be a fun allrounder with decent running costs. Honda build on mine has been really good used all year round. I wouldn’t recommend getting a tail tidy if you use it all year round because in winter it just shits all back end up with no mudguard. I had one then put the original plate holder back on.
Thanks for the comment mark
Hi Mark, enjoyed this video and also the Yamaha R7 vid too. Can i ask which of the 2 bike you personally prefer?¿ Thanks. Saludos desde Madrid 🇪🇸
Hi tough choice as they are both very good but think I prefer the smoother 4 cylinder engine of the CBR plus it's more comfortable
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark, much appreciated! Un Saludo
Tempted to get one, had CBR600F a while back, loved that bike
Love the video, nobody has anything bad to say about them, trailed the cb 650r was so impressed ordered my new cbr and get in April can’t wait to get the miles on it 🙂
Hi Mark, thanks for your fantastic down to earth reviews! Quick question…how does the CBR650R compare to a 2019 GSx750 both in terms of ride and ergonomics? Thanks again for your great reviews and help. Geoff
Sorry I shook said GSXR 750…
Hi Geoff ....gsxr750 has way more power than cbr650 ...but it's quite a radical riding position the CBR is much more comfortable....think of it as the gsxr is racer on the road uncompromising and the CBR is a much more road focused sports bike
Cheers mark
Finding it hard to justify moving up to this from the cbr500. The tires, brakes and some other equipment for the 650 are a step above but in the real world the 500s are perfectly capable of getting the job done and it does other things the same (blinkers, lcd screen, mirrors) if not even better (weight, price, fairing)
the stock cbr500 comes with Michelin Road 5 tyres which are probably the best of the best for street use, and the stock cbr650 comes with Dunlop Sportmax D214 which is far from the best
My New one is arriving tomorrow. I am a new rider, looking forward to putting some miles on it!
Thanks Brian good choice
Sounds amazing. I miss having a 4 cylinder. I have two singles ATM.
15:24 this is why I watch a lot of reviews. I never knew this, and that's an exceptional safety feature
another awesome review!! If I was in the market for a middle weight, this and the Z 650 would be on my list.
Thanks ...the ride quality of this cbr really impressed me :)
Regards mark
I have one and simply love it.
Greets from Russia and thanx for the vid! I am considering getting a more asphalt-riding pair to my Honda ATAS'20, and your video helped a lot. Seems to be the perfect sportbike-wannabe for non extreme and joyful driving around Moscow. Just what I am looking for!
Hi thanks ....yes great choice :)
Great review Mark. I currently have a 2019 ninja 650, i passed my test a few months back. I'm already wanting a quicker more sportier bike, do you think the CBR650R would be a good upgrade or more of a sidestep from what I have now? Does it feel much quicker?
Hi yes it has 90 ish HP vs your 65 HP and 4 cylinders feels very different and smother but maybe look at something like a 2015 zx6$6 ...it's in another league of performance but quite a sporty position
Cheers mark
Hi everyone, can anyone tell me how good is this bike for taller riders (190cm). Thanks.
Hi Mark, thanks for the videos. They are all really good and really informative! I’m currently a learner rider living in New Zealand and I ride a Royal Enfield gt 535. Im looking at getting the new cbr650r pearl spencer blue or the triumph street triple S 660. Im about your weight and height …. Do you think these bikes are a good choice for a leaner or should I get something smaller? Cheers mate!!!
Hi Erwin yes as you have experience already with your royal Enfield those will be fine ..they are both easy to manage cheers mark
I wonder why Honda doesn't have a threaded rear spool provision on these bikes like many other bikes do. It's something that ought to be standard, especially on a "sport" style bike. What are they thinking? Non adjustable forks? For the same price the R7 is looking like a better setup.
Thanks for the review, i have a deposit on a black example to collect after i pass my test, look forward to getting into riding!
Thanks Damian great choice and good luck with your biking adventures cheers mark
I orderd one in july 2021 but will have to wait till april 2022 in Belgium. But I know it's gonna be worth it! Great review!
Thanks for the comment cheers mark
Great review again Mark and you seem to have covered everything mate. Nice after market screen on this one.
Regards,
Roy
Yet again an informative, pragmatic and professional review on one of my fav real world bikes. Well done!
Have a 2010 Honda Hornet, 102hp, this seems like a very similiar ride. Maybe a little torquier.
Great review, and I think I have a new front runner for my next bike.
ive just joined the biker world and was looking for a first bike, as this looks amazing and sounds good after your review is it recommended as a first?
Yes but the cb500r would be a better bet for your first bike:)
Great review mark,that would be perfect for me.more than capable sport bike without being to extreme good job Honda.
Thanks James yes it's got a nice amount of power and great handling
Cheers mark
Another excellent review there Mark. I'm a fan of this particular Honda Model as I think it's such a great all rounder and also suitable for shorter riders too! In your experience Mark, is the 2021 dash really that much brighter than the previous models? I've only got the 19 plate version so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts - I've not actually had any problems seeing dash - even when riding directly into the sunset with no tinted visor :)
Hi Vincent ...from memory the dash was about the same brightness and like yourself found it easy to read
Great bike ... really enjoyed it
Cheers mark
Great review mate👍,ive got my mod 2 in a couple of weeks and I'm thinking this or the ninja 650.
What would be your choice?
Hi Andrew ..you'd think it's obviously the cbr because it's more powerful but the ninja at 65 hp is still great
Depends on your budget really and what you fits you better ,I think money no object I'd go for the cbr
Cheers mark
It looks pristine in person!! So well put together
Yes the paint quality is beautiful
Definitely looking for one of these as my next bike
Thanks Paul great choice ☺️
Got the first 2021 model in NZ in smokey grey and people look at it everywhere i go.
I added quick shifter, seat cowl and few extras too. It is very nice looking bike.
Thanks Ryan .... greetings to NZ :)
Hey Ryan
Any plans in derestricting it? I am in nz too and I am looking at getting one but don’t know if I can be bothered with derestriction
@@Swo882
I am actually planning to sell it soon. I am moving to Australia early next year. I still love it though!
@@ryanoberoi2335 Oh true, I could be interested. Currently looking at new from dealership. If you don't mind could we get get in touch?
@@Swo882 my contact details are keep on getting removed for some reason.
As having ridden both would you recommend this or the ninja 650 as I think there's pros and cons to both bikes
Hi money no object I'd go for the CBR feels bit more refined with its inline 4,but if you get a great deal on the ninja it's probably better value
Cheers mark
I fell in love with that bike first time i saw it
Excellent vid. Have you reviewed the naked CB650r? I've had mine for 2 years and it's been great (apsrt from very vibey midrange). Thinking of a trade in for the new MT09, however. I'd like your opinion.
Hi Clive no ...probably doing the cb650r next ...I would 100% recommend the new mt09 it's my favorite I've reviewed it
Cheers mark
Thanks to your informative review ive now ordered the 2022 cbr650r. The local dealer (and honda) appear silent on delivery times. Do you have any insider info? Thanks.
Hi Jon great choice...no sorry I have no news for you on delivery times etc on these ...the NC 750 is in short supply aswell
The wait will be worth it 🙂
Cheers mark
Great review Mark. Always value your opinion. Thinking of getting one of these towards the end of the year, but in black.
Great choice in the black Richie :)
Hi Mark, how do you you feel the performance of the cbr650r is verses the old cbr650f? Basically is it possible quicker?? Cheers mate.
Hi Chris I'd say they are much the same in performance....you wouldn't be able to tell much difference
Cheers mark
Honestly I think I would rather have the old F3 you owned a while back. Days when CBR600f hadn't been hornetised.
Love your matter-of-fact style!
Thanks Jimmy my pleasure :)
The only thing i can dislike on this bike is the absence of tech other than ABS. It's just a basic CB500 line up bike but with 650cc.
Let's compare with a Ninja 1000SX onboard tech, there is no question. For this reason I will go on the Kawasaki, even if i love the Honda design.
Thanks for the view pascal :)
Regards mark
compare a 650 with a 1000?????
@@55johnno i compare design and tech only.
Mark I'm a big fan of your reviews, Your one of the best bike reviewer's on the net. Any chance you can tell me what riding gear your wearing it looks really cool? Thanks mate.
Hi Chris it's rst tractech 2 piece leathers .. sidi mag boots scorpion helmet cheers :) sorry edit had my rst textile trousers in this vid
Cool thanks Mark.
So it sounds like they’ve upped the power and changed the gearing. My ‘18 CBR650F does 65 at almost exactly 5000rpm with an alleged 83(?)horsepower.
Im picking mine up next summer. Cant wait!
Great choice david
Thanks for the review. Another quality product from Big H, oozing class and value. For the money a great package and great all rounder, but……the engine isn’t as characterful or playful as Yamaha’s MT-07. You really need to cane the CBR at the top of the Rev band to the best out of it; the Yammy has the better bottom and mid-range grunt and is less tiring to ride. Would still consider buying the CBR, however.
Thanks Nigel yes you can't go wrong with the mt07 with is grunt
Cheers mark
Great review Mark, I love that bike so much. I am debating getting that or the CB650R. I still haven’t made my mind up as I like them both equally. Love the sound of that engine and it just looks amazing. See you on the next one 👍🏻
Thanks Dan yes I saw the cb650r today !
@cbr 2020 yeah you are right with that one. I love naked bikes as much as faired bikes. To be fair the CB will be easier to ride and easier to maintain and clean etc Iam more swinging towards the CB as it still packs a punch with that engine. A classic looking bike with modern technology. 👍🏻
If you’re going to have insurance, get quotes for both CBR & CB - there’s a BIG difference here in FL
What did you end up going for, Dan?
I had one 2019 love it thinking of part exchanging for another.new one
Hi nice vid , how is to tour long distance ? , any aches in the wrists or back ?
Hi no it's very comfortable for a sports bike ..no aches at all for me
Best wishes mark
Hello great review. Which bike to pick from cbr 500 or cbr 600rr or Cbr 650r? Gonna use it for work about 50 minutes ride on motorway.
Hi I'd go for the cbr 500 they are so economical and good value ...new model due out soon too.
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 cheers
I been riding 125 auto for 6 years, does 600c makes me beginner?
@@prince170591 Hi the cb500 would be better for your first geared bike 👍 cheers mark
No brand can beat hondas, quality, reliability, and price ratio. I do not know how they do it.
I think yamaha are ona par or even better nowadays omo
The only area they fail in slightly is the weight.
Hi Mark I'm thinking of getting cbr500 or cbr650r restricted to A2 Which one would you personally recommend? Cheerio!
Hi I'd go for the cbr500 it's cheaper and better on fuel and still loads of fun ..then get something bigger after a couple of years or so cheers mark
Hi mark love your reviews, have recently ordered a Royal Enfield meteor, do you plan a review soon ?
Yes glen definitely
Poole moto are getting the meteor soon :)
Weird question.. I currently have a Ducati scrambler but recently getting numb hands and starting to think it’s the vibrations. Never had it when I owned a CBR or my GSXR… thinking a 4 cylinder maybe has less vibrations.. do you think this could be correct? It’s kind of ruining the rides of late.. cheers
Yes inline 4s are generally smoother ...you can still get buzzy vibes in the midrange...the monster is particularly thumpy I would say but as a comparison my KTM 790 duke twin is super smooth
Best wishes mark
Great bike! Collecting mine on Thursday. Just wondering but what are your trousers called. I’ve been looking for them but can’t seem to find their name.
Hi they are rst textiles
Cheers mark
Very nice mark review of Honda 650r great bike are you going do a review of the Honda 125 pcx mark as that scooter I am thinking of getting thanks mark hope you don't mind me asking
No probs Andrew I'd love to get hold of a pcx but dealerships don't tend to have them on demo because the insurance is so high for young riders ? That's what crescent told me anyway cheers mark
@@markpulling12 ok thanks mark that's understandable I am getting on I am 55 just want runner round I like Honda pcx 125
@@andy5786 Ive ridden 500 miles on a pcx125 2014 model and they are great for whizzing about on
@@markpulling12 thank-you so much mark pulling I looking forward to getting one now on your advice keep up great videos keep riding safe
I’m trading my Hayabusa with this baby! Thanks Mark for the review. 😊
The 650 was the last on the show room floor as the 1000 range were on back order with the colour the buyer wanted. It is ok as a 650 but not able to punch like the 1000. This was also when they bought in the 650 level for beginners at licensing restriction that was never authorized. Making or forcing the sale of 650 from the stores. The 1000 is the only way to go unless your having grand prix works riding on a 650 in a race or class. Even then it is not 650 any more so still the 1000 is the choice of great honda riders as the outlet was told to her. Mmmm
AFFA angels never die HMS
MARK IAM DOING MY MOD 2 AND BEEN LOOKING AT THE KAWASAKI NINJA KRT 650 CAUSE THE HANDEL BARS ARE RIGHT ✅ UP I LIKE THIS HONDA cbr 650 BUT THE HANDEL BARS LOOK LOWER DOWN
Hi yes the CBR bars are a little lower than the ninja but they are still above the top yoke ...it isn't an extreme position as like on the fire blade...
It's very comfortable for a sports bike ....I'd go for the honda
Best wishes mark
Can you do a review on the 2021 Honda pcx 160 and the difference between standard, e:HEV and ABS. Much appreciated.
Hi Brian sorry no 160 version here in the uk only the 125
Cheers mark
sooo, if you could only own one motorcycle, for fun, commuting and maybe some longer rides (3hr+) would you go for the CBR650R or Aprilia RS660?
Hi both are great bikes 5 ⭐.... but I'd go for the aprilia... slightly more engaging engine for me
Cheers mark
HI. Sometime soon I am thinking of getting a bike, my first ever bike. Would this be an OK starter bike if I am not overly aggressive?
Hi samual ....yes lots of training , sensible approach and you should be fine also check out the ninja 650 and cbr 500 cheers mark
Thinking the same , on a cbf 125 at the moment after my CBT 2 months ago , doing my DAS in a few months . Git my theory next week. Nice bike along with the cafe Nero which I’m considering .
Hi Mark, i am wondering if there is possibility to make a review of Macbor Montana xr5 ,AKA Daytona Maverick 500 if they are present in british market? It is quite interesting byke.
These look great but they don't look like they are available in the uk
Cheers mark
Top review. I'm toying between this and the kawasaki ninja 650. Tough choice..
Would either suit me as a first bike after passing my test you think? Price of the ninja is amazing but I'm not sure of the twin v 4 comparison.
Another fantastic review MP! A++++++++
Thanks Tom my pleasure
Superb video Mark how would you compare this to your Kawasaki. 👌
Hi Jim the Honda it's definitely more comfortable ,better for longer journeys ,it's tuned for low and mid range ...but the ninja 636 is in a different league altogether performance wise ..it matches the Honda mid range then leaves it for dead at the top end ...it's more track focused for sure ....not really an everyday bike whereas the Honda is
Cheers mark
I love the 4 cylinder but would probably get the CB650R with the retro look. Thanks Mark for another good video.......Sal : )
Thanks sal ...yes hopefully try the cb650r soon :)
Thanks as always, Mark. Very nice offering from Honda. I like the looks, the sound, and the handling appears to be great. But, without the cruise control, it doesn't check the touring box for me.
Like the new 2022 Triumph Speed Twin, there is no cruise control option. Whereas, the rest of the Bonneville lineup offers cruise control. What kind of sense does that make?
Will you be reviewing the 2022 Speed Twin. It appears to have addictive handling and performance, according to Carole Nash.
The downs are low gas mileage, crappy front fender (so short it doesn't even protect the radiator from stones, let alone drenching the rider in rain), and of course, no cruise control.
But it is really light bike, at 474 pounds wet, for a 1200 cc engine. It has 100 ps for this year with 82 ft lbs of torque. Incredible low end pull... noticably more pull than the new Honda 1100 Rebel.
Then there is that sound of that 270° twin. They modulated it just right. Seems very soothing together with that pull.
Gord
Hi Gord I'd love to review the triumphs but my local ish ( an hour away ) dealership franchise has their own marketing dept and aren't interested in lending me bikes to review ...but I could always just blag itt and just take it out for a test ride for myself ,!! :)
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark... you're impressions would be of great interest. I was wondering why you hadn't reviewed any Triumphs. Now I understand...
I have an issue with Triumph's marketing. They appear to be billing their 2022 model as a 2021 year release, calling it the 2021 Speed Twin.
This is very confusing because when people see that they think it's the 2021 model year. It isn't... the 2021 model year doesn't have any of the most recent 2022 upgrades.
Thus, when people go shopping they are looking for a 2021 Speed Twin, thinking they are getting the latest offering. They aren't.
But they sure are helping the Triumph dealers get rid of their 2021 model year stock that have been sitting on the showroom floors for the past year.
The Speed Twin started to be their biggest seller but after the Covid crap, that screwed their sales for 2020. They look to be sneaking the 2021 models out the back door under pretext to relieve their dealers.
At least that's my impression based upon what I'm seeing. There'se simply no honest justification for billing the 2022 as the 2021, based upon release date.
Gord
@@gorrdd I used too ...when 3 cross motorcycles existed they used to literally throw the keys at me but sadly they closed ..
@@markpulling12 I'm curious... when did they close? In the past year or before?
Gord
@@gorrdd yes it was about a year ago great shame ...went bust with ,huge debts apparently
I test rode one around a month ago. I wasn’t impressed. The vibes were bad. Not what I expected from a 4cyl.
Nice Review!
Looks like a very refined and well made bike!
Yes these are superbly built :)
Nice review Mark, a question however. This costs more than six times the price you paid for your '97 CBR600F3. Is it six times better, six times more fun? Which would you buy with your own hard earned cash?
Hi Colin. Very good point no it's definitely better feels more modern ,sharper ,better brakes and suspension but not six times better/fun a decent amount better :)
Cheers mark
What a weird question they are 2 completely different bikes with 25 years difference.
Any 25 year old bike or car is going to be 6 times cheaper than a 2021 model.
You cant then ask if its worth it?!
@@londonsounds6212 I disagree. Many are caught in the keeping up with the Jones' trap and think they must buy the newest thing. I've got a new Triumph Trident 660 and a 23 year old CBR600 F3 which I bought with the comfort of seeing Mark's review. The 23 year old CBR is fantastic, it's back to basic fun, bullet proof and cost buttons. I prefer its basic fun to that of the Trident. If you've not tried one, I'd suggest you do.
I just my motorcycle license im going to try and test ride this bike thats if i can find one
I'm honestly really torn on this or the Z900 as my next bike
same problem here ! do not know what to pick, cbr or z900
Excellent review, thanks.
My pleasure :)
Nice bike ilike this 650 very friendly seat height😊
Great video Mark. Do you think this would be suitable as a first bike after going through direct access training and tests?
Hi Steven yes as long as you just take it steady for the first few weeks ...also have a look at the cb650r naked
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks for the response. I do like the naked version as well. Hopefully pass soon and be on the road with one of these.
In my opinion the CBR 600 f3 is still a brilliant all rounder even today this looks a great bike but would it be worth trading a well serviced tidy f3 in against one and parting with my hard earned 💰 Mark
Probably not really nick you would have to add 1000s extra .... your bike is still tons of fun :) and going really well
Cheers mark
You do a fine review.
Many thanks Robert 😁
Awesome review Mark..👍🏻
Thanks Nicholas
Nice vid hoping to get one of these soon 😎
Thanks Ian good choice !
This would be the perfect do-everything bike if it had a bit more power. 90hp is about 30hp too sensible for me. This but with 800ish cc and about 130hp would be a perfect machine for me.
At least Honda haven't sold out to cheapo parallel twins like most of the others.
Sounds like you want a Ninja 1000sx.
Not my type of bike, but the usual excellent review, Mark.
Thanks Nick :)