Suzuki GSX-8R vs ALL COMPETITION (R7, CBR650R, Daytona 660, RS660)
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:47 Suzuki GSX-8R
1:16 Yamaha R7
2:52 Aprilia RS660
4:49 Honda CBR650R
6:55 Triumph Daytona 660
9:06 Kawasaki ZX-4RR
11:41 Yamaha MT-09
13:06 Suzuki GSX-S750
14:08 Kawasaki Z900 - Комедії
I got the gsx8r for my 2nd bike because I do everything. I drive 100 miles on interstate to work. Weekends I hit twists. One day I plan to go in a long ride.
100 miles to work!! Holy crap!!!
damn hope that's 50 mi each way...200 mi/day is crazy
@@whiskbiscuit7199 100 miles one way. I drive a semi so drive 100 to work on Sunday then 100 home on Friday.
How do u do it. Ill be honest im fussy and wanna ride my bike to and from work. But i always come up with excuses like its too cold (i start work at 4am) or ill be too sweaty after work etc etc. It sucks because wanting to learn to ride may have saved my life years ago
@@temperspace Idk I love the feeling. Just Friday I rode home in pouring rain with no rain gear. I haven't had time to pick up a set of rain gear. I rode in freezing weather last year a couple of times. Honestly I just do it. May be the stubborn in me. 😆
I'm waiting for the R9
Might Be A Couple Of Years You’re Waiting
XSR900 XP is already availible
@@judge831I wouldn’t be caught dead riding that thing💀
What's bad about it? @@mencibenci
They need to hurry up, I'm tired of waiting
I recently bought the Suzuki GSX-8R after heavily comparing it to the Daytona 660. In the end the Suzuki was more what I wanted, basically naked bike ergonomics with some wind protection and enough power to be entertaining on the street.
just drove my yellow 8R home today and I couldn't be more happy
Love that yellow. More bikes need to come in loud colors.
Congratulations bro, enjoy and don’t let the internet steal your joy. Only let people tell you what to ride when they are making the payments lol
@@michaelw6277 I miss the days that Honda would have the bright orange and all that, I love the new color ways of the KRT anniversary from Kawi
Just passed my msf course and got my license yesterday!!!
ayy congrats
Hell yeah
Got some time before you get a bike this size
@@bboykiddblack i disagree tbh buy a twin 650 as your first bike and you'll get a much better value and wont get bored of it in a year like most who buy 250s, 300s, and twin 400's
@@mr_fishh2881 500 is as far as the typical person would want to start. Beyond that you should have some riding experience and a ton of maturity
2022 zx6r rider here, Test rode the daytona 660 at a triumph demo day event last weekend. If I was in the market for a new fully faired sport bike for street use, it would be #1 on my list. I had the biggest smile on my face. That triple sounds so sexy.
It's silly, the street triple now is the daytona, and the daytona is now the.. Actually it's just a faired trident 660.
@rns6889 Yeah I agree with you. I can only tell you my experience with it. And my experience was awesome 😎. I see the biggest complaint from everyone isn't so much the bike itself, but the name, more than anything.
'21 ZX-6R here, and came to the same conclusion. Yeah, I've got a problem with the name, and I have a problem with the frame (fake twin spar plastics, are you fucking kidding me?), but other than that, the 660 is ALMOST what I want out of a sport bike.
I love my bike, but there are things I would change, such as the jerky throttle. Maybe an ECU flash with decell cutoff disabled would help, but I most just miss late '90s, early aughts carbureted bikes. Been on a hunt for a good condition 2000-2003 ZX-9R for quite some time.
Got myself a gsx8r last week. Did a ton of research and checked used bikes online but all i wanted was the 8r. I got the silver with the red wheels. Love the looks and just got my tail tidy for it, cant wait to tear that dumb fender off lol have an acro exhaust coming too. Very excited! Im happy i chose this bike
How is your quick shifter on yours? Mine terrible I don’t hardly ever use it
I got the Tuono 660. Very overlooked bike! I could not be happier!
2023 CBR650R owner here. I choose the Honda because of the inline 4 engine, build quality and fit & finish. Hondas general reliability level and I think it’s gorgeous in Grand Prix red. My use case is some commuting and some twisty weekend roads so it fits me well. My 1st big bike coming from a CB300R too. I think all the bikes in the category are probably fabulous in there own way each have there pros & cons.
I have an older cbr650 and it's an absolute blast, I feel like it hits the sweet spot between practicality and power
I have 19, great first bike, have over 15k miles on it. torque really kicks in after 8k revs. good sound also.
2023 cbr650r owner 🤚 after putting a yoshimura full exhaust, k&n high flow air filter and going 1 tooth down in the front sprocket 15 to a 14, all I can say is that it really pulls and still haven’t gotten it tuned but I wonder how the bike will perform after. I raced a 2006 cbr600 with power commander tune and couple of mods and gapped him. We did 60 rolls on 2nd and 3rd gear. We also did a roll where he was on 2nd gear and I was on 3rd and still took him on. Honestly I thought I would lose to the 600 because it’s a 600 but we both were shocked of what the 650 can do. Cbr650r is very underrated lol
@@alexysgaona7763 yea it will pull, but top speed will decrease also. default is 230.
@@paul-ku believe me or not I’ve hit 149mph on the bike. Which is surprising for a 650.
i feel like the z900 is pretty underrated! awesome bike
Unpopular opinion…when you’re dealing with bikes that can go as fast as these, especially fully fared bikes…some extra weight really helps with stability at speed in straight lines and with very little handling cost if any. Especially if you’re wanting a fully fared bike, but it’s so relaxed you won’t be getting the normal Supersport rake and trail etc…some weight will help make up for that lack of straight line stability you would otherwise have with a proper 600 or 750
If true, a very useful insight. I can get caught up on the spec sheet power / weight and then often feel disappointed when doing comparisons.. ultimately it's a silly concern
@@gabrieltiso8537 what do you mean feel disappointed when doing comparisons? As in compared to the spec sheet you’re not noticing the difference you expected? Yea that’s a common thing. Especially for horsepower. Generally speaking torque is what you feel, especially low down torque in low rpm’s, and horsepower is more the top end speed (gross oversimplification but still) but spec sheets also assume you’re capable and willing to ride like a champ when doing 0-60 for example. If you never dump the clutch or you do more of your playing around on bikes from 40-80 than 0-40ish than obviously the 0-60 spec is largely meaningless to u for your needs and you should be looking more to the middle and top of the dyno graph for example.
As for stability, yea so the geometry is the biggest determining factor, a proper sports bike is super stable at high speeds and a naked or comfort oriented sport bike is much less so, that’s going to be true even if the sports bike weighs less than the others, but the point is if you’re comparing for example a z400 and a z900 or a r3 Vs r7 etc the higher weight of the z900 or r7 will make the stability at speed feel much better and the bike more planted etc. than the z400 or the r3 would. so weight won’t won’t make it as planted as a supersport but the heavier bike of a given design will typically be more stable at speed compared to its ultralight little brother which will get tossed around the road a lot easier at speed.
@@MarissaTheMuse wow appreciate the report and that makes sense to me. It's silly for me to be disappointed because I'm not a capable enough rider for it to matter.
When faced with trying to decide on a do everything bike (only bike) it's desirable to see a strong intersection of: exciting, practical, reliable, economical etc.. been looking at the gsxs1000 f 👀 and I'm actually worried it's too heavy lol
Then again I've only ridden dual sport / super moto 🤷♂️
@@gabrieltiso8537 what’s your age, sex, height, and weight? Are you in the USA? What state? Do you plan to get full coverage insurance? Do you make a fair bit of money to where insurance cost doesn’t matter much or? Will you be paying cash or financing? Any down payment? What’s your credit score? In my experience if you step away from the bike comparisons, as fun as they are, and think a bit more practical that can help you narrow it down. I eliminated a lot of bikes I was interested in from insurance cost alone
@@MarissaTheMuse ha! True, insurance is a killer all good points for sure. A 1000 is probably too costly for my budget. If KTM can figure out how to keep their fluids from leaking they're new SMT could be it 🤘
The 8S is a lot of fun with a lot of torque, I loved that little thing.
Looking for a new bike in this category in the next few weeks, this couldn't of been more perfectly timed !
Great video. 11:49 Yup, MT-09... Yamaha hit a real home run with this bike and have just made it better every year. Those Gsx-s 750 Suzuki's can defintely be had for super great prices.
I have a used 2018 gsxs 750 and it’s great. Was my upgrade from a beginner bike around 4 years ago
I got an 8r as my first bike. Bout a month riding in. Only complaint is the sound. I originally wanted an s750 but I thought I'd be biting more than I can chew and I can say I'm pretty happy. It's much like you said. It's good in a lot of things just not super at anything. Which for me just feels great to be able to feel out riding without feeling like I'm held back by the bikes capabilites
All depends on what you’re looking for. Lots of great bikes right know. I have a cbr650r and love it. He’s right about the lack of low down torque but that’s not what I want. I’m on the “four lane” a lot and I want my bike to “cruise” at highway speeds easily and since it has a top end of about 150 mph then 85 to 100+ is a breeze for it. And it’s pretty comfy and that’s important for an “old guy” like me😜. I know Yammie doesn’t care for the cbr and I probably wouldn’t either if I wanted what he does. It’s all about choices.
I tried the Daytona 660 last wednesday. A great bike, and pretty comfortable to ride. The ergonomics are just like on the Ducatt Supersport.
I own a Tiger Sport 660 myself, and I can say the upgraded engine on the Daytona are noticeable. I'll bet you love it Yammie.
How does it compare to your Tiger? I'm probably going to get the Daytona or Tiger 660 this fall.
I have a ZX4RR that I got last May. I do everything with it. Commute and tour. Just passed the year mark and have about 10k on it. Love it. It’s not without its flaws but you forget them when it screams.
The GSX8R is a great second bike to have in the garage; I am thinking of putting an MT09 next to it. I have an RC390 as well.
What year’s your RC390? And how is it in terms of reliablity?
@@caj.potato I would considered myself a dissatisfied customer of KTM. My 2022 RC has been down since the start of ownership, it throws a misfire code and the mechanics blamed it on the tail tidy I had installed. Took it back they insist on installing stock tail to clear this problem. Now I’m not saying my wiring was the best but come on, there is something seriously wrong with the bike because it’s been underperforming and not even capable of doing highway speeds.
@@rjway5923get the mt09. The CP3 motor is amazing trust me. It pulls like an absolute train in every gear.
Thank you 🙏🏻 this is the video I needed
The best most comprehensive video you have ever made, wow! Also you have confirmed to me I have made the correct choice in buying the Aprilia RS660 ❤
I haven’t ridden in over 6 years. My last bike was a 2016 ZX-6R. I also owned a FZ-07, FZ-09, and Bandit. I thinking about getting back into riding and honestly I think the Trident is the way to go for me. That thing looks cool and I always liked the whistle of a Triumph bike.
I'm going for Aprilia rs660, it's got a good amount of power, looks great, and it's fully faired and I found one for 9000$, 2022.
I think that will be my 2nd bike. But in a few more years
don't do it, save money and buy it new because it's a new engine that Aprilia launched in 2021 so having 3 years to fix the problems is a big deal and the 2 year warranty is a must for an Italian bike, just trust me on this
you should view these italian bikes like a Ferrari, you don't buy a Ferrari for reliability, you buy it because it's a Ferrari and same goes for Aprilia, buy the bike new and ride it for 3-4 years then sell it and buy new again otherwise you will have a lot of headaches and it will cost you a lot of money, Aprilia parts are insanely expensive
Nice. I found an acid gold 2022 with 900 miles and paid $7,800 cash. It had been dropped at very low speed and had some minor cosmetic damage to the left side faring. Love the bike so far!
@@dutch_martyr Did you have any technical problems with it?
i got the 8S as my first bike bc im 6ft5 and i narrowed it down to 8s or MT07 but the 8s came standard with quickshift and felt slightly roomier so that sold it for me
Just bought a Daytona 660 yesterday and I love it
I just rode the Daytona 660 recently and it's a lot different feeling than the Trident, much more of a performance sports bike - maybe even a step forward compared to a Daytona 675 bike - I know hard to believe but, I think Triumph has pulled that off!
It's taking me some time to get use to the sitting position but I'm getting it. I've had it a week and just used your video to put the fender eliminator on.
i loved my cbr650r. i have a 2015 s1000rr right now and i want another 650. the inline 4 was fantastic while still being very torquey
Love my Triumph Street Triple RS. Not really a competitor to the Suzuki, but I wasn’t looking for a newbie bike. I really wanted a solid middleweight naked that could street or track. When I test rode, I just fell in love.
Had my Daytona 2 months now - what a fantastic bike!!
Here's the latest results of a inventory search of the closest RideNow Powersports. Showroom prices are considerably different than retail so worth looking around, especially if your interested in an 8 series Suzuki! All are new 2024 models.
CFMoto 800NK - $8495
Kawasaki Z900 - $8495
Suzuki GSX 8R - $7949
Suzuki GSX 8S - $5995
Yamaha MT07 - $7495
Yamaha MT09 - $9895
Yamaha XSR900 - $8995
THe CFMoto is a lot less here in Australia, Z900 best value here in my opinion.
Trying to move last years 8S inventory it appears
I would look anywhere else for a bike than RideNow.
@@alexwhiteman-el5jd as a Z900 owner I agree
@@marshallsmill8422why, I had a great experience buying my 8R there?
The Aprilia gas horrible parts support compared to the 8R, additionally the cbr650 doesn’t come with some features that the 8R has.. there are some things you missed in this “comprehensive” analysis that are heavily weighted overall that edge the gsx 8R above the competition
How did papa yam know I was looking at all of these Saturday he’s a mind reader!
@yammienoob, please , need a guide for ducati scramblers!
I’m a tall guy (6’7). The gsx-8r was the most comfortable bike for me. Super happy with it
Ex 2021 Honda CBR650R owner here . Cbr650r for the Win
A full exhaust and a ECU flash and the GSX8 will run like a beast. Good for city riding or commuting.
Waiting for Honda to come out with a hornet based cbr750r
You’ll probably get GTA6 first
@@4ampaul gives me a little more time to save up I guess
I want full faired and not to powerful because I don't race and I'm still a beginner with two seasons under my belt on a shadow 750, the 8r is a lot torquer than my first bike
everytime I see yam with these glasses on, I always think he's wearing safety glasses.
A reason to go for the Suzuki is the ergos. It has a nearly naked bike upright position, which I personally find appealing. I love the Honda but I’d like the bars to be about an inch higher.
GSX 8R, Grey with red wheels is one of the best looking middle weight sports I saw. Yet I still think I`ll go for cbr650r for the engine.
Started RC390, Had the R7 for a little while when they first came out, always wanted the Zx6r fell in love with the Zx4r when it came out but now thinking of the Rs660 or Mt-09sp even Street Triple R. We’ll see what happens
the value of the MT09 is real hard to ignore and is on top of my upgrade list from my MT07
Love my '24 Z900. Would like an RS660 as a 2nd bike.
rs660 is such a beast everyone needs to ride one !!!!
Yammie! Great video. However, I have a question. I got my first motorcycle and was wondering.... What is the proper way to wash your motorcycle?
Slander of the VFR800 will not be tolerated
The r7 is so beautiful, i want yamaha to release a r9
i think the ergos with the suzy could be a point is like the gs500f renewed wich was a fantastic bike for commuting and for traveling as well
I like how you didn't try to sugar coat this bike, to make it more desirable so people will sign up. Good comparison!
Yes, i went with the Ninja 500 40th anniversary edition lol
I just got mine last week it’s amazing! Mine is not the 40th anniversary tho haha
Im thinking of getting this after my Ninja 300. How's the power on it? Good on the highway?
@@mannybrar7501 It’s pretty good it’s responsive if you pull the throttle! I’m not sure how different it will be from a 300, but it’s definitely funnnn!
You got more than enough power for the highway for sure! You should check out revzilla review on it. He hits it spot on with the review
@@mannybrar7501if you have decent miles on your 300 go with a 650 next or something more. The 400 is just about 20% faster than the 300 and the 500 is barely more than the 400.
Always like it when the RS 660 is being praised. Ive put 16000km on it now and i really love it. Its great.
The GSX-s750 is a great first motorcycle. It isn't too punchy in the low end. It has good handling and brakes well. I'm sure you can say that about several of these bikes too. Respect the machine. And you'll save money on having to do a trade in on your 300 because your weight is the same as the bike's displacement and a firm breeze won't allow you above 55.
My only issue with the mt-09 is it feels like a 90’s civic with a big turbo. It’s great performance wise but didn’t change that it feels super cheap and not special at all as far as materials and looks etc. I’d want to replace every component with higher quality including the frame to consider keeping it forever
Quality and feel matter a lot more to me than power. Honda feels highest quality.
@@judge831 yea you can do a lot to the Yamaha with the money you save, in fairness, including upgrading the beers and levers and rearsets etc to be at or above Honda quality. But as is from factory there’s lots of little bits and details that make the Honda feel more quality.
I’ve been meaning to refresh my memory, do you happen to know if any the cbr650r’s were compatible with slip ons or did they always have the all in one exhaust design the recent years have had? I don’t recall, but I’m potentially interested in one from the last year it could take slip ons, assuming that’s not super far back to a different design entirely or something.
I just got back into riding after being away for 10 years and recently bought a 2024 Kawasaki Ninja 500 a couple months ago and absolutely love the bike. However, most of my riding is highway at 80+ Mph and the poor 500 is screaming at that speed. I am considering upgrading to a Z900, MT09 or GSX8R. Its so hard to narrow it down but your video really helped. I just fear the Z900 and the MT09 will be harsh to ride at that speed with the wind.
Your comment is very interesting to me because I haven’t been riding for about 12 years and I’m considering the Ninja 500 or 650. Most of my riding would also be on the highway but I do have to put up with traffic and lane splitting is legal in California.
Just bought a Z900 Wednesday (used 2022, cash private sale) and at 80 mph it’s perfectly fine. Past 100 it gets a bit much in terms of the wind pushing your head back, and it’ll go a lot past 100, it’d just getting warmed up... But at 80 it is comfortable. It sits like a Ninja 400 I rode, a bit more leaned forward than an MT09 but not at all uncomfortable. The Z900 is an excellent ride, my commute is 100 miles round trip and I’ve already put almost 500 miles on it since Wednesday.
@@humbertogonzalez7505 The 500 is an amazing bike and I love every aspect of it. I have already put 2500 Miles on mine. I have the Red ABS model and it turns head wherever I go. I was concerned going back to a beginner bike was not going to be fun but I was wrong its a lightweight fun little machine that is more than capable of doing it all even 6th gear pulls to get away from trraffic. Only reason I am considering upgrading is I live in FL where if you aren't doing 20 over the speed limit on the interstate you are going to get run over. In 6th Gear at 80 MPH its revving to 8.5K RPM which is fine but I want something a bit smoother I can enjoy.
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Thanks for the info. Makes me feel a bit better about a naked bike.
@@RAnubisNRG the Z900 is butter smooth. Definitely is a big step up power wise though.
I’ll stick with the MT-09-SP - get this as it has Ohlins.
Got a Ninja 400 too.
2024: No.1 ? Suzuki 78NM at 6800rpm 205kg wet, 82HP vs 2017 BMW F800GT (Rotax engine) 86NM at 5800 rpm 213kg wet,90HP !
Cool to see. But ... the RS 660 costs 30% more than the 8R where I live so not in the same market. You can buy a Street triple RS for the list price or R for a discounted RS660 price. No competition in my view, although the Triumph is obviously naked. The GSX S750 is 16% cheaper where I live, quicker at the top, but the torque is flat in low revs, the dash is like a Casio, no quick shifter and you have to chase the power. Great bike though The R7 is slower than the 8R and no auto blipper. A slow track bike? The Honda is also flat down low, the dash is ok and no quick shifter. Feels way less punchy for everyday riding.
Goddamit yammie you got me stuck back in the rs660
Do it, I got one used last month. So worth it
Interesting vid. Some good suggestions but I really don't get global pricing differences like some of these listed. The MT-09 pricing in the States is crazy good. It's approx. £1200 / $1500 more expensive than the 8R in the UK. The Z900 is also about £1000 / $1250 more & the GSXS750 has been discontinued in Europe many years ago now. The 8R pricing & where it fits in the market against its competitors seems to make a lot more sense over here. The Daytona also doesn't have a QS, if that matters to you, & the build quality & warranty is inferior to the Suzuki. However, the Daytona does look better & the engine is more exciting too. Honda's a bit boring compared to the 8R imo.
I'd like a group test, but I'll take it 😁
Whats the reason Zx6r's are always left out of these? Don't they compete well in this bracket?
Yammie, here where I live the price is the same (+-300) for R7, RS 660, Daytona 660, MT-09, Street Tripple, Z900, Duke 890 (MT-07 is a lot cheaper). CBR650R being 1k cheaper.
So Aprilia would be your no1 pick here, right? I'm purely commute/track (50/50) rider and I have no idea what to buy :D
The z900 doesn't have a quickshifter up and down right? I've been eyeing this bike since 2018 and ill probably get it sometime soon.. but kawsasiki doesnt give it with a qukcshifter at least in india. can we fit a bidirectional quickshifter on it as an accessory? Ive only seen upshift shifters as aftermarket accessories and they dont work that well
Biggest problem with the Honda: You can't find them. Like, literally nobody has any in stock.
Wheres the video on this channel of you riding that particular model MT09?
you didn't bring the ninja 650, will honda churn a sporty faired version of the hornet 750?
He did at 11:13 but dismissed it completely.
Can you please do more bike giveaways lol
I really like Aprilia and I always love the Triumph Daytona
They aren’t meant to feel exactly like a sport bike, that’s why they are what they are. For riders who want a sporty, yet tameable ride that still looks cool
Throw the Tuono 660 base or Factory in there as well.
I had a brand new 2011 GSXR750 for my first bike. I had it for 5 years then went to a Harley. I sold that about 4 years ago and haven’t ridden since. I’m thinking about the gsx 8r. Is that a good idea. Any opinion is appreciated
For sure bro that would be a perfect way to get back into it all, i have the CBR650R and love it after a 08 R1 back in the day with 5 years of no riding in between and its just peppy enough for me
broooo the low piano music man... used 5min trying to find out where it came from xD
The GSX 8S is awesome. I prefer it to the 8R when I demoed them. As an all around bike, I’d rather ride the naked version all day. The seat was way more comfortable than I thought it would be.
What would you compare the Ducati 899 / 959 too?
Ive wanted a z900 for years but they dont have fly by wire so no factory cruise control 😢. I ended up with an mt10
Duke 790? It's been on my list vs the other bikes available in my market.
would be great if you had add 0-60 numbers for each bike.
I wish you could discuss why fairings matter or don't matter. My Rider experience is anything above 50 mph is better with fairings. On a track, or a quiet well-known twisty road, The experience with fairings is vastly better for me, which is unfortunate because I really like the look of naked bikes. Aesthetically, I don't like fairings on motorcycles at all, but they feel pretty necessary to me.
Am I missing something? I feel like you would have talked about that in this video if it were pertinent to most people.. but these are sport bikes, I assume most people are riding them sportly
uhh where can i find a new mt-09 for $9399 LMAO, the posted msrp is $10599 and that's what i've seen the new 2024s being consistently listed at by dealers. some of these prices are a bit off.
Yea I was wondering about the prices as well 😂
I bought an black 8S with the small Suzuki fly catcher and a belly pan. I and am pissed as I would prefer the faired 8R but not enough to take the loss and trade.
Man the Honda is really good looking bike
What about new e-clutch at CBR650R? It's something new that may be interesting for beginner+ riders who started on something rly small like 125 or 250cc.
Suzuki including the 8R has something similar called the Low RPM assist
the look is similar with Benelli 552R. Is there a collaboration with Suzuki and Benelli?
Is there a reason NOT to buy Tuono 660 as a first bike? Lvl 42, 5'10", 210lbs, 32" inseam.
Hey papi yam have you ever test written a 2020 MV agusta f3 800 and if you have can you tell me what they're like and if you haven't can you test ride one for me don't have my motorcycle license working on it
MSRP on the MT09 is way off, the 24's are 10,599 now. 9799 for the 23's.
I dont know whether you mentioned it or not, but "did you Give any of these bikes away" for some reason I have the idea imbedded in my head that you have? Just not sure if you actually said it in your video?
Gsx8r feels like the ultimate jack of all trade bike geared more toward beginner and intermediate. Good fuel economy, ok power, comfortable ride position is surprisingly upright like a naked bike, good techs like quick shifter up and down and basic traction control.
However, the bike is ded boring for anyone looking for a real sportsbike. It just sort of looks like one, but feels more like a commuter. An old gsx from the 2000 would feel more sporty than this. I did not have anything complain about the bike after riding in, but in the same time i have no desire to own it either.
That's its charm.
Looks fantastic and goes well without too much effort.
I had 43 wonderful years of Ducatis and 25 of them on SuperSports. Enough of the low bars and clipons.
I bought an 8R after looking at EVERY bike on the market and am super happy with it.
Hi, what is the best naked bike after Svartpilen 401? MT07, 09?
Trident 660
I honestly get so annoyed when someone is asking about fully faired bikes and then a naked bike gets suggested. Like we want a faired bike because it looks so good and sits sportier. Stop suggesting naked bikes when we ask about the others. It’s annoying
I wish you would’ve elaborated more about why you didn’t consider the Ninja 650.
Older tech, less power, and boring sound. It's very comfortable though, good ergos if you're under 6 foot tall.
@@judge831newbie, but older rider currently on a Ninja 300. I'm thinking for a reserved rider like myself that wants a good city bike as well as a capable highway/light tourer the 650 would be perfect for me. Any thoughts? I'd prefer not to spend am arm and a leg and need a fully faired ride. I'm 5'9" 175lbs btw.
Nagging questions I've had for a while:
1. Are parallel twins cheaper to manufacture or are they cheaper because they are less powerful and an I4?
2. Are smaller displacement motors cheaper to manufacture(say an R6 vs an R1) or again, are they cheaper just because they make less power.
Twins are cheaper to manufacture than 4's. The liter bikes have way more electronics and better suspensions and some have cruise control. Cruise control is huge for commuting 75-100 miles or more. That's my question; if a bike is throttle by wire why not have cruise control at least as an option?
The newest twins are for Euro 5/6 emission requirements.
You'll see some of the 4 cyl going away or getting less powerful as time and emission requirements dictate.
Good question BTW.
When I bought my 8R, the shop mechanic reckoned the cruise control will be on next year's model.
He also speculated that since 8R and S are RBW there could be a dealer flash on '24 models (for a cost).
Hmmm only the r7 and Daytona 660 are in the same class.
Aprilia -. Costs the same as a zx6r, more than a z900.......
Cbr650 - not sold in north America anymore.....
Duke 890 and CBR-600R and Kawi ZX-6R?
Jack of all trades and a master of none.
If it's your 2nd motorcycle that needs to do it all, the MT-09 makes the most sense imo
What’s your first motorcycle?
Thinking of getting a CBR650R as my first bike because I have to ride around 170 km every week. Would a Ninja 400 be able to do the same thing or better to get CBR650R?
I think that's a bit much for a new rider. The Ninja 500 has JUST enough power for everything including highway, but a used 650 may be about the same price and would be much better on the highway, torquier throughout the rev range. If you go N 650, get a 2020+ as they are updated and much lighter than the previous versions. The Honda 650ris pricey, heavy and a bit too powerful for a first bike. It's an inline 4! You don't need all that power. I wouldn't buy new as a first bike so that kinda leaves the N500 out, and there you have your pick, the Ninja 650. I say that as that will be my 2nd bike, after I get off my current Ninja 300.if you're a small guy though, maybe 5'7" or shorter, & less than 170lbs, a Ninja 400 maybe enough, as long as you don't mind really high revs all the time.
Ok thanks bro
I started off in the cbr 650. But in reality if you’re not stupid and responsible you can start in any bike in my opinion. the cbr 650 has plenty of enough power, especially when doing the full exhaust and high flow air filter.