Technics SU-R1000 integrated amplifier - Digital sound for the Vinyl Generation! - FULL REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- HIFI Review: Digital HIFI Amplifier! The newest addition to Technics Reference Class range the Technics SU-R1000 integrated amplifier reviewed by Stjernholm Reviews, where we dive into all the innovative new features that has been packed into this sophisticated € 8.000 amplifier.
Download the comparison recordings here in full resolution (google drive) (over 2 GB download)
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The record used for comparisons is the A side in OPUS 3 "testskiva 1" catalog number 79-00
Released in 1979. The record label still makes fantastic, natural recordings and can be visited at www.opus3records.com.
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Segments
00:00 - welcome
1:39 - The Rebirth of Technics
6:56 - So what is the Technics SU-R1000?
12:56 - The Cartridge Optimizer
14:04 - Cartridge Calibration Process
15:33 - Sound Comparison
16:20 - How does it sound?
18:40 - Conclusion
20:03 - Review Score, pros and cons
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This is one of the better reviewers on UA-cam. He’s insightful, detailed and pretty damned funny. This guy deserves a bigger audience.
Agreed
> This is one of the better reviewers on UA-cam
How can you make that judgement from this one video? He's only posted three videos on this channel.
More reviews Morten, more, more, more. Just love your way you talk HiFi. Just as we sometimes did in the office👍🏼
Great job I have seen maybe 10 reviews on this amp and you are the first to mention it is digital. You are the only one that has done their homework properly
Thanks, man! Much appreciated!
Exceptional review, very clear, down to earth and not afraid of providing sound demos/samples ( an anathema for many reviewers, sadly) , here’s my subscription! Thank you!
Much appreciated!
Amazing review, absolutely loved it - great job!! 🔥 💥 🔥
Thank you for the great review. 2 of the 4 components in my primary setup are from Technics. Will probably get their CD player when/if my current one dies. Technics sounds amazing.
Thanks for the review, I want one!
Great review Morten! Thank you from Glasgow,Scotland.👍😊👏👏
My pleasure!
Thank you Morten from 🇸🇪!
You helped me to find my HIFI nivana.
I had a SL-G700 since before and just bought an SU-R1000.
Wov… everything I put on it sounds marvelous.
This must be one of the best integrated amps ever made.
I can´t find words of how happy I am.
Thank you!
That so kind of you. Let us know about your experiences with it. Are you using it with vinyl too?
Yes Morten, I have connect it to my SL-1200GR.
Even my old records from my youth in the mid seventies, sounds fantastic.
I have only one thing that bothers me.
When I use Main in from my reciever to the my front speakers in a 7.1 system.
It is very complicated and lot of klicking and Ok/Yes etc. on the remote.
That could have been done mutch better by Technics.
Kjære Morten! Alltid en fornøyelse å høre dine betraktninger! Hilsen geir fra Norge!
This Amp is so freaking expensive, but god damn is it sexy looking, I'd just sit a stare at that thing all day if I owned it.
I just picked up a Technics SU-G700 to power my Monitor Audio Silver 300s. Loving the combo
I love your reviews. Everybody should send you top end kit to review.
Well thank you very much for the kind words! Happy new year!
Very very well done Morten!
Excellent review! This was my first time in this channel, I have now subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
I Iove your reviews and your Danish accent! Back in 1990, my first “real” amp was the Technics SU-V90D 😉
haha.. Well thank you. Help me learn by correcting my english anytime 👍. Thank you for caring.
I am excited as next week I receive the first SU-R1000 in Canada....helps to be a dealer. Fun times ahead. Happy Listening everyone.
Right on!
Thx for your fantastic & detailed review!!! I had ordered the SU-R1000 👍
Good for you! Let us know how you like it here in the comments!
@@stjernholmreviewsNow after approx 3weeks the SU-R1000 run in my system. The sound characteristics is from day one fantastic and it works with my componets extremly well. Before I had it ordered, I made with big brands amplifiers at home a comparison. My conclusion: SU-R1000 match 👍
@@j.j.5170 Hi J.J.! Which other Amps were in your comparison?
@@andredoering8937 Hi André, in my hifi system I had compared the SU-R1000 vs. AVM 8.3. I had played title‘s in a wide range of different genres.
How is this video not having hundreds of thousands of views? Subscribed!
You are too kind! Thank you. (reason might be, that this is a brand new channel :-) Your like helps the channel grow and get recommended while I become better at doing it :-)
my idea too
Great video the baby brother G 700 series is on my shortlist. Hope to have it in a couple months ;)
Hope you enjoy it!, its great. I did a very big test with 10 integrated amplifiers around that priceclass for the online magazine recordere.dk. The G700 ended up in the top three with the entire test team. Its a really great amp for the money.
Fantastic review ❤
Thank you 🤗. And thank you for watching the channel.
Thanks for an amazing review. I have yet to audition Technics's new stuff as I am so satisfied with my vintage set-up brand has made in the 80's and early 90's. I am sure once I do hear new units I shall be selling the kidney to obtain it. Sure enough, no doubt the new SU-R1000 paired with the companies new SL-1000R is a mind blowing combo that sounds like nothing else out there for the price. But what i really want to see Technics do here soon and what shall enthrone it back on the High-End audio pedestal is nice monoblock power amps. And from an engineering stand point they are 80% there with the SE-R1 model. Just "mono" it inside and put a nice big mono VU-meter at the front with the 1000 Watt scale and there you go. :) Just call it SM-R1 or SE-R1M...or something down those lines. You are welcome, Technics for my quick product planing, LOL ;)
haha, yes that would look awesome. The SU-R1 could be lifted as well. Is it actually one of the best sounding "DACs" i have heard. Even when passing digital signals though it, it really smoothes things up. Its a bit undervalued, and its not so flexible. Those monoblocks you dream about would need it, though in order to keep that superclean digital path. And how about a stand alone RIAA with the new tech inside to go with the monoblocks?
@@stjernholmreviews RIAA eq would be nice for sure. My point with launching mono blocks is to compete with the big boys in business, such as McIntosh, CLASSÉ, Accuphase, Luxman, Mark Levinson,....you are catching my drift here for sure
Reminds me of what Rotel did with their Michi series. The absence of some decades showed as the Michi did not impress many audiophile buyers me included. Yamaha both with the 3000 (and 3200) and 5000 amps did great on the other hand. I think I will have to give this thing a listen to see in which camp this technics attempt falls.
Still working on getting the yamaha 5000 series in for review. Let us know your experience with the R-1000 here in the comments!
I caress my HI-FI Tech when no one is looking to :P :D Excellent video ;)
Excellent review Morten, Keep up the good work...Now please do some cartridge reviews would like to learn what Hana, Ortofon can hold up agaist the Nagaoka
JT1210
You can check out a 1:1 comparison of the JT1210 and the 2M Black just by downloading the recordings I did. They are high resolution uncompressed and will reveal the subtle differences. Be sure to read the "read me" file.
Since I cannot afford this high tech, let me enjoy the nice review.
Thats the spirit! Thank you for watching & the kind words! May I recommend you check out the SU-G700mk2 review?
I just bought the su-r1000 & sl-g700 sacd. Amazing stuff. My first ever digital amp that I can enjoy. Tried a ton others over the years. None comes close. Actually thinking about getting the gt5000 instead of the sl-1200g due to the xlr.
Congratulations, and thank you for watching the channel! Dont put to much into the balanced connections as such. Its a nice detail, but the overall sound is way more affected by the turntable itself and the cartridge.
The SL-1200G is no slouch, though. Check out the comparison video, where I compare the GT-5000 with the 1200G using same setup. There is sound examples, that can give you an idea about the tonality differences between the two.
@@stjernholmreviews the su-r1000 is really growing on me. I've ordered the sl-1210gae with the nagaoka tj1210 cartridge. :)
@@AudioheavenDenmark There is nothing like the smell of new audio gear, now is there? 😁. There is much to be gained experimenting with cartridges. I found the Nagaoka to be one of the best MM cartridges I have tried on that turntable. Its very fast and "technics" like in the presentation, that can lean a little towards to "cold" and very neutral "correctness". Together with the super correct RIAA stage with all the precision enhancements, it might actually be a little to much (depending on your music of course). I had the chance to sample a couple of MC cartridges on the 1200GAE, and was extremely positively surprised with a Audio Technics AT-33EV costing only €500 on that particular turntable. I preferred this warmer and smooth cartridge in the combination over a € 2.200 Ortofon Cadenza Black. Again, in my combination / speakers / Room / Music. So I got one of those that is currently my primary Cartridge on the 1200G. As always, ask your dealer to be able to sample the products, so you have a chance of experimenting with your sound. Thats what makes turntables fun! Thank you for watching the channel!
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Yes, I would also love a comparison video with the Yamaha AS3200 and the SU R 1000 -- or at least just a review of the AS3200. I'm considering both to pair with Sonus Faber Olympica Nova 2 speakers. Thanks and keep up the great videos!
Thanks! I have a Yamaha 5000 series review in the pipeline in December. I very much look forward to hear it. It will hint whats to expect with the AS3200 that is built on many of the same designs.
@@stjernholmreviews Aweseome! Look forward to it!
Yes sir. Good video !
Glad you liked it!
🤣🤣🤣 When you were rubbing it! I love my sug700! Great review. Maybe some sound samples for use?😁
If I may ask, do you have experience playing your typical 60s-80s rock vinyl through that amp? A truly neutral sound doesn't seem good for that, or is there more to it?
I dont have any vinyl sorry. I just stream or use my old Technics 847 disc player. I dont listen to any super old music. Maybe older conutry or r&b music. I like lots of diff stuff. Older music just doesnt have enough bass for me. I cam say that Sug700 is almost too clean sounding! When I use external dac I cant tell any diff.. but maybe because of speakers I have I suppose?? Paradigm Monitor 11v7s. Im still playing around and just getting started. My other facs are Toppings BC3, Toppings D50s and a Schiit modi3. Out of those external dacs...Schiit sounds the best. It smooths them edges just a little and more pleasing. Sug700 is best left alone as is in my expirianse. Waste of money to bypass its internal dac. Go seps if you wanna do that. Thanks for reply
Would love to see you do a review of the yamaha as 3200 and compare it to the su r1000 😀
The A3200 will be reviewed on the channel, as will the 5000 series. It will be really interesting to hear them side by side. How much sound value do you get for the extra money?
Great video
Thank you for watching the channel.
@Stjernholm Reviews i have 90's technics system dolby prologic the receiver i have is the technics su-G95 that burned out on me any suggestion as far as technic integrated amp that i can connect to my technics turntable that is not overly expensive and sounds great for what i am looking for close to the technic su -G95 specs i have the original 90's technic speakers front ,rear ,and centet channel
@@sammyorta There is a lot of options with cheapish multichannel receivers out there. For really good value/sound I would look towards the Marantz brand. They are distinct and musical sounding to my ears.
Very passionate and comprehensive review, subscribed.
Silly question: what is the purpose of the analog inputs if everything you feed is again converted to the digital domain?
Hello Tasos. I am glad if it shows! Thank you for watching the channel! The purpose is to be able to connect any analog source. The R-1000 party piece for example is the RIAA amplifier with its DSP based processing, bringing pretty significant enhancements to the analog challenges og vinyl. Also, the analog inputs could be used if you had, say , - a CD player with a sound signature from its own converters you like. In that case, it is interesting to have both the digital and analog connections, so you can flip between them, and get most out of your player.
@@stjernholmreviews I get it for the vinyl, but let's say you connect the technics sl-g700 sacd player through the balanced connections are you getting as an end result what the player sounds like or the dacs inside the r1000?
@@tasoss.1385 Both!
Hi Stjernholm. I really enjoy your reviews. Thank you very very much.I have found an SU-R1000 brand new at around 5800 euros. Do you think is a good catch? How does this R1000 compare to the more traditional Yamaha A-S 3200 in sound quality only (since the Yamaha is full analog)? I want to hear your opinion on these 2 super amps.
Hello Rob. Thank you for watching the channel! I will not speculate what will be YOUR preferred sound, both are great amplifiers but they are very different beasts. The "party piece" of the R1000 is the fresh thinking on vinyl like only technics could ever think and the end to end digital design. You need to sample both and try them out on your speakers, with your sources in your room with your music. Stuff like LAPC can sometimes do wonders to certain speakers, so just listen - and focus not on the differences, but how the amps makes you feel after prolonged listening.
helloo Stjernholn...i dont see any transfomer in the amp....what have Technics use to replce ???
Sorry i missed this comment! Its a digital amplifier. This article might be able to help: www.eetimes.com/the-sound-of-change-from-analog-to-digital-audio-amplifiers/
Hi again Morten. I should have asked this a while ago: Is the SU-R1000 headphone out sufficient for handling higher-end, powerful phones? Or do you need an external headphone preamp at that level? Thanks.
The headphone amps are very good in these products. BUT... it is all about your headphones and how you like your sound. See the tubeamp review I did (ua-cam.com/video/6mvm8F-atxs/v-deo.html), here I found a unexpected fantastic partner for the headphones used. It is worth trying different to find the optimal partner. It might be the amp itself, or it might not. As always: "Just listen". Your ears never lie, they are yours, and connected to YOUR brain 🙂. Try a couple of headphone amps. One could be a premium tube amp and another solid state. Compare with the SU-R1000. One thing though. I remember that I did not find the headphone amp in the R-1000 better than the SU-G700. But that headphone amp is also very, very good for the money.
@@stjernholmreviews That's interesting thanks. When I "just listen" :), I find that I favor the neutrality, quickness, and tightness of the Technics sound (plus the brand itself is massively nostalgic for me), so I may sample a solid-state external headphone preamp first. It's not as if I don't also enjoy warmth. I really do, especially while listening to older recordings of all genres. But with warmth comes a certain "flabbiness(?)" to the sound that even gear located in the outer-most limits of my own personal price range cannot eliminate completely. I did watch that video you linked when it was released, but did not apply the headphone portion to my own situation...so thanks again. It's gonna suck for some of us when this channel blows up to the point that you cannot keep up with questions anymore, but I'll be thrilled for you when that happens.
Hi Morten. I have the SU-R1000, and will soon have the new SL-G700M2 network/streaming/SACD/CD player. Since both components have their own DACs, I'm wondering which one of them you think I should make use of? Depending on your choice of DAC, what would be the best cable connection configuration? If it matters, the speakers will be a pair of SB-G90M2s. Thanks.
That's a really good question. Thing is, that no matter what you do, analog signals will be converted to digital throughout the R-1000. It has great A/D, and you might even like the sound of two high class conversions. In some use scenarios you HAVE to use the analog out, as formats like SACD cant be transferred digitally due to old school stupid copy protection bull. So, I would recommend you hook it up using USB (if playing the highest resolution local files) or coaxial if not , AND analog (balanced XLR preferred). This way, you can just use what works and/or sound best to your ears with the new player (that I expect to get for review by the way).
Enjoy your R-1000 and share your findings with the 700 player! Thanks for watching!
@@stjernholmreviews Thanks for that insight. I did have the original G700. I loved it even though I never felt like I had it configured perfectly after months of experimentation. I'll report in on the M2 when I have it...just waiting on availability. I'd love to watch you break down the M2, so I sincerely hope you get one for the channel.
@@stjernholmreviews SL-G700M2 just arrived today. Setup was a bit cumbersome as it needed to update immediately (and that took awhile), but good to go now. It's connected to the R1000 via coax at present, playing high-quality files from the front USB port with analog disabled. It doesn't matter if I'm playing Tool, Metallica, Dismember, Entombed, Deicide, Demilich, or Sophia Pfister. The experience exceeds expectations regardless. Of course, the original SL-G700 was/is amazing too, so I knew I'd be pleased. Look forward to your review.
@@leeroyjenkins8417 Congrats!
Panasonic SA-XR 50 from 2002 is driving my system while my preamp is being fixed. It has an Energy Star sticker on it. It is digital. They have had digital amp expertise for at least 20 years.
The SA-XR50 uses early day Class D amplifiers. As with Class D amplifiers, DIGITAL amplifiers use a switching output stage; however, they accept digital rather than analog input signals. These “digital” amplifiers take in the pulse-code modulation (PCM) signal from a music server or other source and convert those audio data to a pulse-width modulated signal. This PWM signal then drives the output transistors, just as in a Class D amplifier. The difference between a Class D amplifier and a digital amplifier is that the digital amplifier accepts digital data rather than an analog signal.
This difference might not seem that great at first glance, but consider the signal path of a conventional digital-playback chain driving a Class D-or any other traditional-power amplifier. Your digital source feeds audio data to a DAC that converts the digital data to an analog signal; the DAC’s current output is converted to a voltage by a current-to-voltage converter; the signal is low-pass filtered, then amplified in the DAC’s analog-output stage. This analog output signal travels down interconnects to a preamplifier with its several stages of amplification, volume control, and output buffer. The preamp’s output then travels down another pair of interconnects to the power amplifier, which typically employs an input stage, a driver stage, and the Class D output stage. In addition to the D/A conversion, that’s typically six or seven active amplification stages before the signal gets to the power amplifier’s output stage.
To reiterate the contrast with a true digital amplifier, PCM data are converted by DSP into the PWM signal that drives the output transistors. That’s it. There are no analog gain stages between the PCM data and your loudspeakers. The signal stays in the digital domain until the switching output stage, which, by its nature, acts as a digital-to-analog converter in concert with the amplifier’s output filter. The volume is adjusted in DSP. Digital amplifiers are usually not just power amplifiers, but also include a range of inputs, source selection, and volume control, effectively giving them the functional capabilities of an integrated amplifier.
IN SHORT: A digital amplifier converts digital signals to a pulse-width modulated signal to drive output transistors, while a class D amplifier switches the output signal on and off rapidly at a high frequency to produce an analog output signal. Hope this helps.
@@stjernholmreviews SA XR series was a step forward. I have an engineer friend who has one. It was the only amp he owns that he did not build himself. I bought mine new in East Palo Alto, California for $350. Those are NS-5000's it's driving.
I'd like to have one without the phono stuff but with digital AES/EBU connection.
😄, then you should cash out, and get the R1 system! Its just amazing!
There's only one problem with phono reproduction and A/D D/A conversion chains. I have yet to encounter one that does not introduce non-trivial time domain delay to the signal. In a very quiet listening environment, you will hear the stylus tracing the groove ahead of the sound emanating from the loudspeaker(s). You can't get away from this problem, without some sort of secondary acoustic isolation for the turntable. Lowering the dust cover may help, but many high end turntables don't have one.
This has always been a thing with turntables, that basically act like a microphone, and one of the reasons why technics is building their turntables so heavy with so much insulation.
The cover (depending on how it is mounted) actually makes it worse, as it helps picking up sound from the outside. There is no many variables in this, all depending on factors like how close the turntable are to the speakers, the turntable construction, the lid, what material the turntable sits on, how loud you play, etc. Agree?
One of the very reasons why the SL-1200 became such a popular turntable with DJ`s was the built in insulation, that suppress feedback from the PA in a club very well, avoiding feedback. The very strong direct drive motor, also withstand speed fluctuations that could occur if the turntables was suspended in rubber that could make it move in all directions (thus the need for a very strong motor to have enough torque to withstand the forces of the movement).
@@stjernholmreviews What you are talking about in your reply is acoustic feedback. This is a problem, but it is not what I am talking about. What I mentioned was the time domain delay introduced by A/D- D/A conversions. That is, the signal that is traced by the cartridge can be heard in advance to the signal emanating at the loudspeakers. The digital audio chain is shifted in time, and audibly so in quiet listening environments.
@@Columba_Kos Then i dont undestand what you mean by "time domain delay". Please ellaborate.
@@stjernholmreviews In simple terms, A/D and D/A conversions do not take place in real time. Aside from the mechanical gramophone (invented by Berliner) or the mechanical phonograph (invented by Edison), no reproduction (including analog amplification) takes place in real time. But in analog amplification, the domain shift is so small as to be undetectable. With digital, the time difference between the source signal and the product signal is significant. The reproduced signal from a gramophone record after passing through A/D and D/A conversions will be delayed; noticeably so, if you can hear the stylus tracing the grooves in the record. This happens to all signals that are subjected to conversion, but we don't notice because the devices usually don't generate an audible signal on their own the way a phono cartridge will, in a record groove. You can't detect what you can't hear. Let me put this to you another way: If you plug an analog tuner into that Technics amplifier, the tuner will no longer be heard in real time. Take an old Technics receiver, connect it to loudspeakers, play the radio. Take the record out from that receiver and use that signal to feed the auxiliary analog input of the Technics SU-R1000 amplifier and compare the sound of the output of that amplifier to that of the receiver and you will hear for yourself what I am trying to explain to you.
@@Columba_Kos I totally undestand that all digital processing has a latency, ofcurse. But why it should matter to a turntable, can only only be because of the slight feedback from the speakers we were discussing previously that could "go back in", slightly out of alignment.
Can you upload more samples of the actual sound produced by the SU-R1000, please? Please, upload rock music (like heavy metal) as well!
You can download the recordings I did from the describtion. Be sure the read the read me.
Does this integrated amplifier when it digitised the analoge vinyl playback still sound analoge or digital like the CD
Hello Anjo. Thank you for watching the channel! Digitizing analog in high resolution does not make it sound like "digital". What the R-1000 can do, is fixing some of the built in issues with vinyl playback, and "fixing" things can sound a bit more digital. What people like about vinyl is very different. It sounds different as it has a lot of flaws, technically. R-1000 tries to fix some of the flaws via clever DSP, and that leads to things like better transient response and more separation, more precise soundstage. Try one, and see how you like it.
haha.. NOOOO... dont do that. LAPC is way more subtle than that and entirely done in DSP.
@@stjernholmreviews 🤦thx for warning me👍
how does this one compare to the SU G700?
I have reviewed the SU-G700 in a big test I did for recordere.dk (in Danish) where we compared 10 different integrated amps in the pricerange. Try google translate it. The SU-G700 was in each of the team members top 3. At the price, I think you will find it hard to find a negative review. It is really good.
www.recordere.dk/2020/07/stortest-10-integrerede-hifi-forstaerkere-del-4-digitale-troldmaend/
How can someone listen to SACD/DSD particularities if everything is converted to PWM?
Hello Poraqui and thank you for watching the channel! Im in little doubt in regards to if you actually mean PCM? All signals are always converted, but extremely high resolution and bit depth to PCM. If you ARE referring to "Pulse With Modulation", it is what drives the output stage.
This is the best explanation describing a digital amplifier I have seen. Its written by Robert Harley, and goes:
"As with Class D amplifiers, digital amplifiers use a switching output stage; however, they accept digital rather than analog input signals. These “digital” amplifiers take in the pulse-code modulation (PCM) signal from a music server or other source and convert those audio data to a pulse-width modulated signal. This PWM signal then drives the output transistors, just as in a Class D amplifier. The difference between a Class D amplifier and a digital amplifier is that the digital amplifier accepts digital data rather than an analog signal.
This difference might not seem that great at first glance, but consider the signal path of a conventional digital-playback chain driving a Class D-or any other traditional-power amplifier. Your digital source feeds audio data to a DAC that converts the digital data to an analog signal; the DAC’s current output is converted to a voltage by a current-to-voltage converter; the signal is low-pass filtered, then amplified in the DAC’s analog-output stage. This analog output signal travels down interconnects to a preamplifier with its several stages of amplification, volume control, and output buffer. The preamp’s output then travels down another pair of interconnects to the power amplifier, which typically employs an input stage, a driver stage, and the Class D output stage. In addition to the D/A conversion, that’s typically six or seven active amplification stages before the signal gets to the power amplifier’s output stage.
To reiterate the contrast with a true digital amplifier, PCM data are converted by DSP into the PWM signal that drives the output transistors. That’s it. There are no analog gain stages between the PCM data and your loudspeakers. The signal stays in the digital domain until the switching output stage, which, by its nature, acts as a digital-to-analog converter in concert with the amplifier’s output filter. The volume is adjusted in DSP. Digital amplifiers are usually not just power amplifiers, but also include a range of inputs, source selection, and volume control, effectively giving them the functional capabilities of an integrated amplifier".
@@stjernholmreviews Thank you for your very thorough response. It shed some light on how this technology works.
My question was about if such type of amplification defeated the purpose of listening SACD/DSD music. Even if the player/source converted DSD directly to analog, this analogic data would end up being converted/digitised again (to PCM) as part of this type of amplification. And that's my issue/doubt regarding this amp.
@@Poraqui Well, that should be no concern at all. You will not have any conversions out of the digital domain with this amp, before the speaker, for DSD and PCM audio. If using a SACD, you cant get a digital signal from the player, and in that case you would have to feed the converted signal to the amp. In my personal experience, even multiple high quality A/D to D/A conversions is not necessarily a bad thing, depending on the converters. As always, focus on what matters: What YOU think about how it sounds and how it makes you feel. Sample one and JUST LISTEN. Good luck with it. Let us know your experiences on the journey here in the comments!
Very in-depth review, more grease to your elbow
Thanks, will do!
Hi Morten. It's my understanding that the R1000 converts the phono signal into 192kHz/24-bit for digital processing. That's obviously lossless quality, but I'm wondering if Technics might actually be able to improve upon that with the M2 version. What do you think?
I am not aware of a R1000 M2.?
@@stjernholmreviews Nor am I. I'm just assuming that an M2 version is in development, and thinking of ways Technics might improve upon the original.
Hey Mr. Stjernholm! I hope you are reading this! I own those Speakers like you, the sb r1.They are not shown anymore on the website, do you know more? Will there be new Speakers?
I am reading all the comments, always! Thats a very interesting question. I fell in love with the SB-R1 during a longer review, and simply found out it was "my" kind of speaker. Technics has recently moved all production to Malaysia instead of Japan. My guess is, that it has something to do with that. Setting up production of speakers, is very different from electronics. Technics is not seen as a speaker brand by many, so I dont think they have had very big success with their new floorstanding speakers, thus they might have "silently" discountinued them when sold out? They have not gotten the attention they deserves in my opinion! I am glad I got hold of a pair. They are very special to me. Please note, that it is all speculation on my behalf, I have no solid facts, but will ask for it, and follow this up!
@@stjernholmreviews Thank You very Much for your quick response very interesting i hope to hear more from you and I would love to talk to you about our speaker
@@stjernholmreviews Thank You very Much for your quick response very interesting i hope to hear more from you and I would love to talk to you about our speaker
@@rainofflesh feel free to do so. I think we are rare animals ;-). My info is on the about channel pages.
1:11 "Quirks and Features" is that a Doug DeMuro reference? Ha!
Yes indeed!
Anyone tried the TECHNICS SU-R1000 with the REVOX B975 Turntable?
Why specific on the turntable?
@@stjernholmreviewsBecause it is a Linear Tracking Turntable so no distortion just perfect audio.
would be much better review if you open the case and show us whats inside?
Thanks for the feedback.
....is it play USB ...?
Yes
@@stjernholmreviews LOVELLY !!!!
and yet non-contact laser stylus has not been achieved.
for some reason bass frequencies sound weak and way too light, like the sound does not have real "body"
Hi Andrew. Are you talking about the test files or the sound on the video itself?
@@stjernholmreviews I am talking about the sound on the video. Test files were tapped from the pre-amplifier output and did not reflect any capabilities of the power section of the amplifier. Looks like that power amplifier section is quite weak in bass area and lower mid-range.
@@Andrew-do4jy Download the comparison files to judge. Read the read me.
@@stjernholmreviews How can you judge the power amplifier performance if the files were recorded from pre-amplifier section? Read me reads the following: "Recorded using a Tascam DA-3000 studio recorder via analog RCA input from Technics R-1000 record out using OePhi RCA interconnects". It is not recorded performance of the power amplifier...
@@Andrew-do4jy You are misunderstanding that part of the test. The recordings are made for you to be able to judge the effect of the new vinyl improvement technology, like the crosstalk canceller and impedance response DSP. You can also judge the sound of 3 different cartridges and the overall sound of the built in hybrid RIAA vs a external Parasound RIAA. For you to judge the power amplifier, you would need to sit down in front of a pair of speakers that you know really well, in a room you know well.
Ya know what I think about this, it's not gonna hold it's value like a pure analog kit would.
That is probably true, if that is important to you. It is very innovative though, and to my knowledge, still one of a kind!
For $9,995.00 on their website? I'm sure there is product just as good for less $$.
Phil, I would say there are many great products in the price range, but nothing like it. The combination of the cartridge response optimisation features and digital amplification is totally unique! Its for the audiophile that wants to drain the last drop of performance from their vinyl and also do digital. With the specs it look like a bargain to me in the class with amps like the HEGEL H600 also reviewed on the channel. Thank you for watching!
@@stjernholmreviews Here is the big thing, and the only reason I would put it on the demo list. I have loads of Audio research reference equipment and also Theta Digital Citadel which is an amazing amp. Power consumption is now a worry considering the greed of out electric providers these days. Priority No. 1 on a lot of people's minds is electricity consumption., unless I'm barking up the wrong tree here. What would be the difference between a heavy Class A or A/B product vs. this as a Class D component as far as power consumption is concerned? No-one is yet discussing this.
They just don't sound like the old days. Not real, not bright. Some company needs to go back to the day's of the Sansui AU_D11 ll and records. digital sucks!
😃. Some would argue the opposite, including me. My romantic notions about yesterdays greats, are often put to shame when hearing them again. I think we (45+ age people) have a tendency to make it more romantic than it was.
@@stjernholmreviews The guy next door to me has about $35k in his Mc system and he brings his records over to hear them on my Sansui and polks.
@@jameshopkins7333 Thats great! it must be authentic! 👍❤️
No such thing as digital sound
Please expand on what you mean, and what to call it.
@@stjernholmreviews All music/sound that is recorded or stored digitally needs to always be run through a DAC (Digital to audio convertor). Every digital device, such as phones, computers etc., have built in DACs. A person can only hear in analog. In the early days of computer storage on tape, one could "play" a digitally stored song on a tape deck straight to speaker. The sound that came out was like a static screeching noise. The unique feature of the Technic ru-1000 is that it has a built in DAC.
Something not found on a typical amplifier, or receiver. So instead of running an optical out of a playstation 3/4 or a streamer into an external DAC, then RCA cables to a pre-amp/receiver.
The Technics will take the data ( 0's and 1's) directly with it's digital inputs.
More and more audio gear are becoming all in one units. Such as the ($6,000) NAD M30. Which is a streamer, Dac, phono pre-amp and amplifier.
@@stjernholmreviews correction NAD M33
@@rosssmith8481 Oh. so thats what you meant by it. "Digital Vinyl" is referring to the DSP treatment for vinyl that the SU-R1000 offers. As you know, almost all other amps, only have a analog stage for vinyl. The technics in questions has a brand new take on it, with a hybrid analog / digital stage with clever DSP, as you can learn in the review. For vinyl connoisseurs this is something brand new.
@@stjernholmreviews True. I over looked that! Much like what the NAD M33 does, it takes the analog from the turntable and converts to digital.