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  • @jayw9619
    @jayw9619 7 місяців тому +1027

    One more thing to add, as a genshin artist myself, even when they are in “modern day” outfits they STILL get the characters wrong. They are missing earrings, scars, certain hair or face things that are very hard to forget if you even look at the references.

    • @katnchat
      @katnchat  7 місяців тому +79

      yes to this!!

    • @shinart473
      @shinart473 7 місяців тому +43

      oh yea !! it's the same thing with One Piece AI, i see a lot of puzzles on amazon without Zoro or Luffy scars, like it is so obvious for fans but people who don't know can't see the obvious errors AI does.

    • @TravellerZasha
      @TravellerZasha 7 місяців тому +25

      The Kaveh ancient roam AU without Kaveh's iconic feather pen is pissing me off so much, Same with Kaeya's lack of earing, neuvilettes missing long hair and little blue hair spikes, Wriothesley not having prison scars.

    • @lucaleone4331
      @lucaleone4331 6 місяців тому +4

      I mean sometimes I just remove parts I don't feel like drawing lol, simplifying things

    • @jayw9619
      @jayw9619 6 місяців тому +8

      @@lucaleone4331 it’s true, I do too! I think I didn’t word it the best but I tend to mean that you can often tell something is a human choice to modify/simplify (or a human mistake) vs an AI mistake. An example is leaving out the character Wriothesleys scars - he has 3 big neck scars that really draw attention, but they are often left out of AI art - and it’s quite difficult as a human artist looking at him to forget them. But often in art, the intricate details on his outfit are left out and simplified because those things aren’t as integral to his character. I see this with characters like itto too. Characters who have asymmetrical hair drawn symmetrical or flipped the wrong way; I think it’s human to make those mistakes (I have too) but u see a lot more style consistency between real artists works where the mistake is more believable as a human mistake rather than an AI generation + human not seeing it

  • @Kouvierl_Elliyse
    @Kouvierl_Elliyse 7 місяців тому +482

    God these AI enthusiast is more and more bold 💀 i hope everyone knows how fake they are 💀

    • @Mr.Mooose
      @Mr.Mooose 7 місяців тому +1

      It's a harsh reality, AI might not be great at certain things now, but it will soon evolve so rapidly that it will be unrecognizable. Unfortunately, there's not much we can do to prevent it as unreal minor error AI-generated videos like sorna already exist

    • @Toniestbook
      @Toniestbook 6 місяців тому +1

      They have everything to gain and not much to lose besides their dignity

    • @Toniestbook
      @Toniestbook 6 місяців тому +1

      @@CensorshipIsOpression apparently not lol

  • @Hurricane047
    @Hurricane047 7 місяців тому +192

    To be fair it's not exactly an uncommon thing for anime artists who use a more rendered/painterly style to leave the face shading almost flat and render the body differently, maybe that's why this AI is copying that. From my own experience trying to give a more realistic type of shading to an anime face looks very weird, it can be done but I'd argue it's harder than shading a realistic face.
    That said tho screw anyone who does this AI art patreon thing and the people who support them, disgusting.

    • @katnchat
      @katnchat  7 місяців тому +36

      yes!! but from my experience human artists do a much better job of blending it together to make it look "natural"

  • @TakashiDemonServant
    @TakashiDemonServant 7 місяців тому +206

    I remember something about HoYoverse devs not liking Ai being used for “fanart” of their characters.

    • @TakashiDemonServant
      @TakashiDemonServant 7 місяців тому +19

      Why I say HoYoverse is because some of the characters aren’t just genshin some came from honkai star rail.

    • @nauseatingmilk2704
      @nauseatingmilk2704 7 місяців тому +8

      Is that right? I thought they were encouraging the use of AI instead... Oh! I remember why I thought that. In H:sr that sad mushroom owner was using AI to write poems and claiming it's perfectly fine and his lol. Thought the devs were putting their opinions in the game abt AI use.

    • @TakashiDemonServant
      @TakashiDemonServant 7 місяців тому +6

      True there’s a lot Ai HoYolab
      I just heard that from a few others on that app(I deleted it because it was getting so toxic).

    • @TakashiDemonServant
      @TakashiDemonServant 7 місяців тому +7

      I think the sad mushroom owner was a way to call out those who were using Ai

    • @nauseatingmilk2704
      @nauseatingmilk2704 7 місяців тому +13

      @@TakashiDemonServant you're right, it's way too toxic and unfair tbh 😢 I deleted it for that reason too. A lot of extremely suggestive AI art of the female characters that apparently weren't breaking guidelines? People bashing others bc of cosplay/art/ships/opinions/characters they're pulling for... Jesus. I felt way too disgusted when I saw some people tell a cosplayer to tan up bc she was cosplaying Dehya :'3 that was uncalled for and unnecessary.
      It's quite true what people say, Genshin (and quite frankly, H:Sr too) players are childish... Well, it is a R10 game, I guess.

  • @agnomymous
    @agnomymous 7 місяців тому +182

    I don't know a thing about Genshin, but if I had to guess, they're probably starting with a generic prompt, "Man in toga", maybe including a setting and specific stylization they want, then copy/pasting whichever Genshin character's face onto the body and using the new image as a reference, then running it through a few more times to help "blend" the face and body.
    And they're making bank doing this 😞

    • @katnchat
      @katnchat  7 місяців тому +8

      exactly to this!!

    • @dragonraisor_3319
      @dragonraisor_3319 7 місяців тому +9

      @@katnchat the art that was used for the main part of the work is artwork from a game called love and deepspace. the characters are 3d in the game. while the genshin art the ai used is based off 2d work.

    • @netherending
      @netherending 7 місяців тому

      Usually, they have a trained "lora" for existing characters that is taught off specific characters. They run it through a model trained more broadly, but typically, it will have a preferred style. In all reality, they could easily do the normal outfits even as long as enough art of the character exists. It's very horrifying.

  • @jayw9619
    @jayw9619 7 місяців тому +330

    I see this art everywhere on my Twitter feed and I always get so annoyed and I lose my mind not seeing anyone calling them out on it … them deleting comments and blocking makes so much more sense …

    • @Allyfyn
      @Allyfyn 7 місяців тому +2

      How do you even get this stuff in your feed? I follow over 50 artists, I only get art in my feed, and I don't get this in my feed.

    • @moss_soft
      @moss_soft 7 місяців тому +10

      @@Allyfyn retweets or for you page recommendation (not the one with followed accounts only).

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому

      "call them out" mf ITS ON THEIR BIO. why do you feel the need to cAlL tHeM oUt like omfg mind your own business

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому

      call them out for what, exactly? something they literally stated on their bio? that at least more than half of their followers already know about? I'd be mad too

    • @moss_soft
      @moss_soft 7 місяців тому +11

      @@bigfriendjoe when you see the art on your FY page you don't see the bio. you can like and retweet without even seeing it and it puts so many unrealistic expectations on the artists.
      + charging money for ai art is wrong. and people who buy it and don't care need to be educated WHY it's wrong and they are getting scamed. No matter what their stance on AI art is. paying money for it is scamming yourself.

  • @jiingyuan__40183
    @jiingyuan__40183 7 місяців тому +172

    The way I clicked when I saw genshin characters on the thumbnail... ai art is getting more and more common and is used in so many ways it's concerning. Artists work so hard for these yet ai "art" manages to ruin so much with a few prompts, I've seen a lot before but they're literally everywhere now no matter what social media you use

    • @sweet2924
      @sweet2924 6 місяців тому +2

      I clicked on this video because I dont know what is patreon.

  • @NeptizzleOffical
    @NeptizzleOffical 7 місяців тому +540

    ai "art" shouldn't even be called art in the first place :/

    • @I_despise_humanity
      @I_despise_humanity 7 місяців тому +7

      For reaaaaaaal
      (Also i love your pfp, Lucky☆star 🔛🔝)

    • @Kongongongg
      @Kongongongg 7 місяців тому +1

      Cope and seethe

    • @DeathOfAnExecutionerr
      @DeathOfAnExecutionerr 7 місяців тому +24

      ​​@@KongongonggYou're on the wrong side of UA-cam if you're legit defending ai here lol. All they do is steal from artists.. calling any Ai imagine art is insulting ngl

    • @Kongongongg
      @Kongongongg 7 місяців тому

      @@DeathOfAnExecutionerr you don’t know what stealing means

    • @tunmble
      @tunmble 7 місяців тому +2

      Do you?

  • @shinart473
    @shinart473 7 місяців тому +78

    i was going through pinterest yesterday for references.. (it became difficult tho with AI..) and i found an account who was asking people to ask and credit if they would use they "ART"... but it looked AI so i clicked the profile and i saw the description......... "Don't repost without credit/permission, any repost without permission will be reported for copyright infringement ! All images on this account are made by me by AI

    • @katnchat
      @katnchat  7 місяців тому +5

      that is CRAZY

  • @X1Daring2
    @X1Daring2 7 місяців тому +44

    I'm so fed up with these ai bros ruining the art space with stolen art, seriously it ain't that hard to pick up a pen and be creative lol xD

  • @chok1169
    @chok1169 7 місяців тому +41

    Hmm that style of drawing is pretty common among Japanese artists or south Korean artists. The critique that the body rendering looks more detailed compared to the face is pretty common and it works, that's why a lot of those types of drawings get a lot of likes. Is a good combination of anatomy, color theory, and lighting.

    • @dragonraisor_3319
      @dragonraisor_3319 7 місяців тому +8

      I would say true, but in this case, they Prompter took "memory" cards from a mobile game called love and Deepspace. the characters are 3d. the prompter took the artwork from them, ran it through AI, set the prompt to replace the characters in the images with the ones from Genshin. the AI used 2d artwork of the genshin character, thats why theres 2 different styles.

  • @Oozaru85
    @Oozaru85 7 місяців тому +114

    I mean, these patrons clearly don't pay for the artists work. They pay for yaoi content, that is being created extremely frequently. No real artist could keep up with that daily post frequency. And they don't care who creates the art. As long as they get their daily yaoi content, they'll gladly pay for it.

    • @vaelia1203
      @vaelia1203 7 місяців тому +18

      not necessarily for the yaoi but just nsfw in general. That's how a lot of artists make money on patreon 😅 but this person probably is making gay ships because they're more popular overall (I mean just look at that list of ships that's just a list of the most popular ones and none is a less liked one, they're clearly not doing it because of who they themselves ship)

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +5

      and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. let them have their yaoi

    • @Oozaru85
      @Oozaru85 7 місяців тому +3

      @@vaelia1203 Indeed. Maybe I should start my own patreon. I think Furry NSFW is very popular and I'm a fast learner.

    • @marqkc
      @marqkc 7 місяців тому +23

      ​@@bigfriendjoe well, yes there is a problem when the art is AI and there's already plenty of free content of the ships that are being generated in the AI renderings. I'm baffled there's people out there who would pay money for something so common in the genshin fandom, like it's already provided by real people... No need to fuel an AI bro's delusions lol

    • @JeremyQuacks
      @JeremyQuacks 7 місяців тому +19

      ⁠​⁠@@bigfriendjoe
      Sure but.. wouldn’t it be better to support a real yaoi artist instead of an AI artist? Like at least one of them you get a hand-drawn work.. The other one makes you pay something you could could do yourself for free. You’re actively wasting money supporting AI artist lol.

  • @dragonraisor_3319
    @dragonraisor_3319 7 місяців тому +23

    OMG! THEY LITERALLY TOOK CARDS FROM LOVE AND DEEPSPACE! They literally took artwork from cards called "memories" in that mobile game and used it to compose their AI BS! its also the reason why its a 2d face over a 3d body, the characters are 3d and more realistic.

    • @etaperily4947
      @etaperily4947 6 місяців тому

      i thought they looked familiar lmao

  • @Arata987
    @Arata987 7 місяців тому +7

    AI images should be recognized for what it really is. Plagiarism.
    And AI "artists" as scammers.
    Because that's how everyone sees as for writing and music. Images should receive the same treatment.

  • @Wenixa
    @Wenixa 7 місяців тому +41

    They missed wrios scars and they missed many key features of characters 😭

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +1

      because it's ai? do u expect ai to do perfect details or smth

    • @Wenixa
      @Wenixa 7 місяців тому +18

      @@bigfriendjoe yeah that's the point

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому

      @@Wenixa why state the obvious? not even angry or anything, but like… yeah. everyone that watched at least 2 second of the video knows that

  • @demonninetaledfox
    @demonninetaledfox 6 місяців тому +3

    I hate this because I can see the artists they are stealing art from to mimic the style. It's so obvious they are using another person's hard work to literally make money.

  • @Shinn_4rt
    @Shinn_4rt 7 місяців тому +50

    omg I actually follow this "artist" 😭😭 why didn't I notice this earlier

    • @ArchaicChemist
      @ArchaicChemist 7 місяців тому

      because it's not ai art and this persons just literally wrong? sorry man

    • @levahoneii
      @levahoneii 7 місяців тому +25

      @@ArchaicChemist huh?

    • @PrismPupsickle
      @PrismPupsickle 7 місяців тому +20

      ​@@ArchaicChemist what artist can post like this on the daily? Other than Ai image generators

    • @dragonraisor_3319
      @dragonraisor_3319 7 місяців тому +17

      @@ArchaicChemist it actually is, all these poses in their artwork? are images from the game called Love and Deepspace. they put the artwork from the game's cards through AI and just prompt to have a specific character replace the one in the image. that's why its a 2d face on a 3d body. the characters in love and deepspace are 3d, while the genshin face was generated using 2d artwork.

    • @DiabeticFrog
      @DiabeticFrog 15 днів тому

      @@ArchaicChemist 0:19 AI is literally in their bio

  • @LoliCiIntlinG
    @LoliCiIntlinG 7 місяців тому +51

    I really feel bad for the people that actually paid their patreon…

    • @shirodeski4631
      @shirodeski4631 7 місяців тому +20

      Dont feel bad if they already know the artist is an AI artist. Its already in their bio..

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +4

      why? they paid knowing it was ai. it's on the artist's bio

    • @LoliCiIntlinG
      @LoliCiIntlinG 7 місяців тому +5

      Some people are less informed about AI, but at the end of the day, you are right. They still paid for it.

    • @akiodemon
      @akiodemon 7 місяців тому +2

      It is their responsibility what their money go to, they are not getting scammed when the person states that they use AI.

  • @KatsudonArt
    @KatsudonArt 7 місяців тому +11

    Don't call it Art ffs, it's CRAP
    (Computer Rendered Artificial Pictures)
    And hold up, they ask $20 for AI crap????
    I ask $15 for my patreon and you get 3 manga/marvel style artworks from me within the month and I spend 15+ hours to do all of it for just one patron, wtf. I'm charging way too low!

    • @sjin3475
      @sjin3475 9 днів тому

      "computer rendered artificial pictures" sounds like a dig a trad artist would use against digital artists tho lmao

  • @kiiekoii9752
    @kiiekoii9752 7 місяців тому +10

    im guilty of the 3d body 2d face bc i love drawing muscles but am cursed to only draw anime boys

    • @s_eria
      @s_eria 7 місяців тому +9

      there's honestly nothing wrong with 3d body and 2d face, lots of artists use that for anime-styled art

    • @shionlilac
      @shionlilac 6 місяців тому

      @@s_eria It's really sad that because of videos like these, brain-dead people are gonna start to accuse real artists just because they aren't good at rendering faces.... My sister called my art AI art just because the hand didn't look good....
      It's just sad that we came to a point that people simply *forget* that humans can make mistakes too and that artists don't always have perfect skill at everything...

  • @Aru_beeee
    @Aru_beeee 7 місяців тому +8

    OMG FINALLY SOMEONE CALLED OUT THIS ACCOUNT. I've seen so many people commenting in their AI Images of HSR characters (these are the post that i mainly see because I'm a HSR fan) that they're so jealous that this ILLIX acc could make such good "art" in a short amount of time. I even saw one person replying warning people that the "art" that was being posted in this acc was AI Images but they got attacked lol.

  • @lycheeB3AR
    @lycheeB3AR 7 місяців тому +16

    honestly the art looks good but it’s so sad its ai

  • @--de_syu9510
    @--de_syu9510 7 місяців тому +3

    This reminds me of a "game" me and my former cowoker did. We go to Pinterest and type in a Genshin character and play the game "Spot the AI and the irregularities". We both trained our artist brains thanks to this "game" lol
    Also, I am grateful people who followed me knows my art style and knows that I draw my artworks

  • @evy1729
    @evy1729 7 місяців тому +4

    Ahh I can't find it now but under one of their posts someone asked (maybe a May one?) if they are going to share the "art" process and illix wrote something like they sketch the pose first, run it through AI, they choose a suitable pose, then add the Genshin/HSR head and edit that to make it look better. From a glance they seem really good, then we can notice all the missed/misgenerated details. It's so sad this gets all the attention and not real human artists. 😔
    Btw I'd give everything to be able to render like this by hand. ;u;

  • @3y3b411
    @3y3b411 7 місяців тому +63

    Pick up a pencil. Do it. Pick it up. You took time to learn AI. Take the time to learn how to draw

    • @Kongongongg
      @Kongongongg 7 місяців тому +3

      Don’t command. It’s annoying

    • @knives.3733
      @knives.3733 7 місяців тому +35

      @@Kongongongg Pick. Up. The. Pencil. We believe in you.

    • @3y3b411
      @3y3b411 7 місяців тому +25

      @@Kongongongg pick. It. Up. Or does it terrify you that you're not good at something? That's okay. You don't have to be good. Just pick. It. Up.

    • @miro_theburger
      @miro_theburger 7 місяців тому +15

      ​@@Kongongonggoooo im a pencil oooOo👻👻👻

    • @M1kanTsumuk1
      @M1kanTsumuk1 7 місяців тому +6

      Ai isn't actually that hard to use. It's just writing down what you want it's not learning anything

  • @huapure
    @huapure 7 місяців тому +10

    It’s not 100% ai, it’s clear there’s some drawn over parts,but this is horrible they are profiting off stolen art

  • @starfall_yixin
    @starfall_yixin 7 місяців тому +11

    The bad thing about this, is that the ai "art" actually looks good in my eyes, ai is getting to advanced...

    • @aqyllstar
      @aqyllstar 7 місяців тому +2

      i know right it looks so good??? 😭😢

    • @anetepaulakrinicka7830
      @anetepaulakrinicka7830 7 місяців тому +2

      Guess we have to draw a shitty art so AI ends up generating ten times worst.

  • @zinzolin14
    @zinzolin14 7 місяців тому +5

    Couldn't expect someone who scrapes to care enough to clean up their mess 😂

  • @wiolwolmine6560
    @wiolwolmine6560 7 місяців тому +7

    I used to eb quick drawer on one point, and sometimes had inspiration bursts, and got like 3 pictures done per day on the oddest times. But, these days, after starting to make more shading and all, all pictures take minimum 8 hours... But, this is process of drawings going like... In last three years, plus, I cannot even have energy to draw than maybe once or twice per week now... New pieces each day, could work for a week if super in the zone but.... Yeeh, not for too long times.

  • @kwanyori9454
    @kwanyori9454 7 місяців тому +8

    I disagree with you one thing about rendering body like 3d but the face is 2d. It’s very common for 2d artists with Japanese styles will used this technique with their art. Many artists painted 2d faces with full rendering body.

    • @s_eria
      @s_eria 7 місяців тому

      This, cause I sometimes usually do that with my art, it's just weird that these kind of stuffs are just making non-artists just go at real artists saying "hmm well this looks 3d with 2d!! ur using AI......" 💀💀I've seen a lot of people on platforms accuse real artists of AI just for them to post a timelapse of their work to their reply cause omg why do we have to always prove everything with a timelapse, we just want to enjoy art... im just dead at this cause clip studio doesn't automatically set your works to timelapses because of the storage stuff, and i usually forget to turn timelapses on so ouh...

    • @shionlilac
      @shionlilac 6 місяців тому +1

      @@s_eria It's really sad that because of videos like these, brain-dead people are gonna start to accuse real artists just because they aren't good at rendering faces.... My sister called my art AI art just because the hand didn't look good....
      It's just sad that we came to a point that people simply *forget* that humans can make mistakes too and that artists don't always have perfect skill at everything...

    • @s_eria
      @s_eria 6 місяців тому

      @@shionlilac This! It's so annoying that it's now just normalized to just point things out like omg humans aren't perfect, art can't be perfect perfect, so there's obviously are going to be some errors to those who don't really know how to draw some stuff, it's so annoying to see these kind of videos of where she just points eveerrrrryyyyy little thing about what is wrong like sure it does has some AI stuff! but she can't just keep insulting, like atp it'd be better to just point out the problem and not make any fun of it because real artists does have some errors the same as some that she specified but the way she words things is just not right

    • @s_eria
      @s_eria 6 місяців тому

      (Cause it also generally just confuses people who don't do art to annoy real artists with comments like with what you just specified, cause its just 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀wtf, can we artists just breathe peacefully when doing art without being accused of AI just because we forgot something or drew something wrong?)

    • @s_eria
      @s_eria 6 місяців тому

      I also kinda don't sit right with the "disclaimer" it's always going to be there and then she just proceeds to insult some things that artists sometimes do or even usually do since art styles exist...! and diff techniques exists too, like the 3d body and the 2d face like uh.. she kinda did not cook with that lmao

  • @kamoo506
    @kamoo506 7 місяців тому +3

    How funny is it that the moment I open Twitter (being 3 minutes into this video) their "art" appears on my timeline lol

  • @piecanl
    @piecanl 6 місяців тому +1

    I do have to say, a lot of artists purposefully under render the faces so they: 1. are cleared to read and 2. The vocal point since the rest of the piece is usually busier either by rendering or other things, it's very popular to render this way
    So that's not necessarily a point to look for in Ai images /gen

  • @shirodeski4631
    @shirodeski4631 7 місяців тому +21

    To be honest, there is nothing wrong with the arts. All anime artists who draws semi realistic arts makes the face clean and flat.. why do we still judge them and say "this is AI!" "its like a 3d body plastered with a flat face" not all face have to be really detailed. The artist already claimed they are an AI artist who also uses photoshop to fix minor details to look pleasable... if they already say they are an AI artist, why do we still need to hate them?? its not a scam anymore if they already put it in their bio

    • @k_a_m_i_k_a_m_i
      @k_a_m_i_k_a_m_i 7 місяців тому +9

      I don’t agree with AI, but I agree with your point

    • @Corv4t
      @Corv4t 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah, some features can be point out but having a detailed body and not as much detail on face is what many artists do. I mean as you said, they alrd said they’re an ai artist so basically that’s all it is for the video.

    • @maglag
      @maglag 7 місяців тому +11

      While I don't agree with the AI thing since its use in itself is also unethical (stolen stuff in their databases and such), I wholeheartedly agree with the face stuff. So many artists go for simpler rendering while working on characters' faces, and have done so way before AI popped into the picture

    • @sjin3475
      @sjin3475 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@maglag The AI was trained on art from actual people. It doesn't seem like a stretch to imply that it's a style artists use and that's why it keeps popping up in AI-generated art.. because some actual artists also do that.

    • @maglag
      @maglag 8 днів тому

      @@sjin3475 100%

  • @kangelparfait
    @kangelparfait 6 місяців тому +2

    it really said "do not repost" mf no ones gonna repost that ugly ai😭😭

  • @mevi-smolsummoner
    @mevi-smolsummoner 7 місяців тому +21

    I find it kind of funny that those who use AI to generate art have to pay for that AI. Generator when they can simply just pay an artist For commission.

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +1

      because they don't want to?? it's their money

    • @anetepaulakrinicka7830
      @anetepaulakrinicka7830 7 місяців тому +6

      And they are the same mf who keeps saying that Digital art is not real art, you just tap on the screen and boom an image is ready. Bruh you literally tap on screen and boon AI makes an image ready and they call it a real art💀
      We are evolving but backwards.

    • @netherending
      @netherending 7 місяців тому +1

      You can run ai models off your own PC for free. There is no need for a subscription, and it's unfortunately super easy to do.

  • @N1kkyyChan
    @N1kkyyChan 7 місяців тому +5

    The fact that i saw the wriothesley one of twitter and fell for it, AI is really starting to get better over time 😭

  • @Eszz1ro
    @Eszz1ro 7 місяців тому +14

    Omg finally someone is calling them out. Once I saw some kavetham fanart and said “we don’t want your ai bullshit” and they blocked me 😭 then I saw an artist repost their content n that acc blocked me too cuz I called them out as well 💀

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +1

      ofc they blocked you. they literally put on their bio that it's ai. don't like it? block them. simple. no need to "call them out" (that is honestly just being annoying for no reason)

    • @Eszz1ro
      @Eszz1ro 7 місяців тому +8

      I’ll say tho that there are tons of genuine artists that just so happen to render bodies heavily instead of faces as sometimes the abs/chests are more so the focus point for the audience.

    • @Eszz1ro
      @Eszz1ro 7 місяців тому +7

      @@bigfriendjoebum I didn’t go on their profile, they popped up on my homepage 💀 so I didn’t even see in their bio that they used ai 💀💀

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Eszz1ro yeah, that makes sense 👍

  • @DarkGreiga
    @DarkGreiga 7 місяців тому +1

    Both Genshin and HSR have character designs with many details. I think I've seen someone post AI 'art' of the latest Genshin characters in their original outfit and I swear, the tiny details are heavily botched beyond recognition...

  • @xenosnake
    @xenosnake 6 місяців тому +3

    why they get insulted when people call out its AI? kek

  • @SodaPoPSauce
    @SodaPoPSauce 7 місяців тому +1

    4:31 as a genshin player, interestingly, that looks semi-similar to the language of Teyvat used in the game

  • @LaNoir.
    @LaNoir. 7 місяців тому +2

    The way those are generated is by marking certain areas of the image and adding another image to it, then generate again to merge said images. That's why the face does not match the body. The AI Bro generated 'hot male anime guy' and then copy-pasted a genshin face on it, then merge-generated them together.

  • @lian7092
    @lian7092 7 місяців тому +5

    the bsing on " 3d body " and the " 2d faces " is bs tough

  • @1Delta3Grim7
    @1Delta3Grim7 7 місяців тому +3

    We need to petition to cut off all ai users from patreon. Any source of funds going to them for 0 effort or labor is insulting to artists who perfected their craft or are still learning.

  • @2010-b3d
    @2010-b3d 7 місяців тому +5

    When I see ayato, I'm happy
    When I find out it's ai, I'm depressed

  • @naesala
    @naesala 6 місяців тому

    It's not Genshin characters, but I draw some characters with complex designs where I have simplified versions for casual drawing where tiny details are removed to make things easier on me. That's also a very possible thing to do as a human.

  • @seronimo__7735
    @seronimo__7735 7 місяців тому +3

    2:51 Why are there abs on his chest

  • @S0ULESSB0NES
    @S0ULESSB0NES Місяць тому

    tbh before covid i was doing a fully rendered piece every day while working 50 hours a week. ive never been able to get back to that level lol its not sustainable

  • @Mainvanna
    @Mainvanna 7 місяців тому

    It reminded me the similar AI user called Clie who claimed him/herself as a "profesional Illustrator" for years but doesn't even post his/her own art ...

  • @OwlCity447
    @OwlCity447 7 днів тому

    omg i remember seeing one of their posts past by my tl, it was of a series of wriothesley drawings and it was sooo sexy so i looked at their media tab for more... but then i started getting suspicious at the frequency of posts... only for me to realize they have "AI-used" in their bio :/ it felt so disappointing

  • @imtheartifact
    @imtheartifact 7 місяців тому +2

    9:30 ur voice sounds like the tiktok voiceover voice HAHAH

  • @jayceenova9860
    @jayceenova9860 7 місяців тому +3

    As I understand it, this person in the header wrote that he uses AI, and people who subscribe to his patreon are aware of this, maybe they just want more images in a prod-style. So... where's a scam? We are not talking about the fact that in this case an AI is used, this is the other side of the question. Now is the time when a huge number of people use AI and run a patreon, and successfully. And at the same time they warn that yes, an AI was used for the images, while many do not warn about this, and these are the people who definitely don't have good intentions

    • @knives.3733
      @knives.3733 7 місяців тому +6

      Its still a scam because you can very well create the same type of image by means of similar tools. A lot of AI generation models are free or cost not very much to create a large amount of images at once.
      Im not sure why someone would knowingly pay for it anyway though. Maybe those who are gullible or not smart with technology.

    • @beeIovely
      @beeIovely 7 місяців тому

      it's a scam because AI at its core is theft, and their patreon site itself fails to mention the use of AI at all. they put it once and only once in their description which people clearly don't check. if they were that proud of it they wouldn't be hiding comments and blocking people for simply saying the letters "AI" in their quote retweets. a huge swad of their followers AREN'T aware that it's a scam. even if that's in part their fault, it's there, and that's what they're leaning on. a simple qrt and replies check will show you this. it's not an outright ploy but it's slimy behavior at best

    • @WirlWind494
      @WirlWind494 6 місяців тому

      @@knives.3733 They can indeed create the image themselves, but they don't and it's their own choice not to learn.

  • @magieenvtuber9783
    @magieenvtuber9783 7 місяців тому +2

    "No artist can pump out ammount of this quality works this quickly"
    And i'll take this time to quickly introduce ya'all to our lord a saviour Vatheja, who before her recent health issues would pump out DAILY FULL RENDER art pieces of WAY better quality and you should check her out, cause she is just the fucking GOAT.

  • @Siroitin
    @Siroitin 4 місяці тому

    Is there artists that really think people shouldn't download their works from Twitter or ArtStation?

  • @sophs4370
    @sophs4370 6 місяців тому +1

    sometimes i don't like when people try to hyper analyze certain artistic things with AI art because there can be actual artists that do things like having a 2D face and a more 3D body, even when there is a disclaimer that they're only making fun of just the AI art, it doesn't negate the fact that actual real life artists can also make mistakes or are still learning certain lighting elementals or anatomical poses. I think that overanalyzing things so small can eventually lead to real artists getting falsely accused of AI art when in reality they're just finding their style or trying to improve. Like imagine posting a finished piece with hands that aren't completely accurate bc you're not that good at drawing hands yet and then you get accused of AI because they're not 100% anatomically accurate
    idk just a thought

  • @asteleda
    @asteleda 7 місяців тому +1

    Ugh I hate this "artist" so much I have them blocked because their posts get so much interaction they always popped on my TL 😔

  • @hoshi4038
    @hoshi4038 7 місяців тому

    Just one small comment here, the type of rendering you talked about is extremely common on genshin/hsr fanart, I've seen that style on multiple artist that i follow so it isnt much of a error from part of the Ai and more of an indicator of what kinda images it uses for it's database

  • @vaelia1203
    @vaelia1203 7 місяців тому +1

    it's crazy how anyone fell for the patreon scam because with that much output even non artists should realize that it should be impossible if it was simply "assisted" with Ai instead of making it do all the work 💀 And an exclusive illustration per person per month on the 20$ tier... how is anyone thinking that someone who value their commissions to be so cheap for the overall "level" of the images and amount of work they SHOULD take if they were human made can possibly be doung anything else other than scamming them?????

  • @PokeFangOfficial
    @PokeFangOfficial 7 місяців тому +11

    If the art is fake, odds are the followers are too.

    • @bigfriendjoe
      @bigfriendjoe 7 місяців тому +1

      ?? this is such a baseless accusation

    • @JeremyQuacks
      @JeremyQuacks 7 місяців тому

      @@bigfriendjoe
      You’re right on that but I don’t blame for anyone assuming they would. For example, If you caught someone lying to you, chances are that they lied to you more than once.
      If they have the ability to sell AI art without it going against their morals, I wouldn’t be surprise if they bot their account to look more authentic.

  • @murata..
    @murata.. 7 місяців тому +1

    HELP- THIS WAS ON MY TIMELINE (specifically wrio's)💀💀I was wondering why I felt mad suspicious of it.

  • @jakeguillero9804
    @jakeguillero9804 6 місяців тому

    I agree with everything besides the "3d body but 2d face", I feel like if you follow pro JP, KR and CN artists you'll notice it a lot, it's very common. It's because in asia a lot of people likes "soft" features in face but a toned and "sexy" looking body.

  • @miko2260
    @miko2260 6 місяців тому

    i hate how myself and a bunch of other artists struggle to build anything resembling a following on twitter; and here these Ai people are racking up followers like rain😒

  • @zhawkmoth3653
    @zhawkmoth3653 7 місяців тому +3

    2:57
    WHY IS HIS NIPPLE MIGRATING UNDER HIS ARM PIT?

  • @zoekittenxvx57
    @zoekittenxvx57 Місяць тому

    I seen it happen with a channel and they claimed it was AI in a comment but did not say in their bio or in the video title..

  • @OwlCity447
    @OwlCity447 7 днів тому

    one thing to point out: genuine artists, more often than not, dont monetize their works but AI dorks will most of the time monetize their works.... its almost as if... AI dorks are only doing "art" just for the sake of money and not actually because they enjoy art? GASPPPP (no one is surprised)

  • @akisekurahara6678
    @akisekurahara6678 6 місяців тому

    Funnily I think the commission tier that was bought might not have been from a real person as well. It has been seen in deviant art as well, people who do this generally work in groups and they just cycle the same money back and forth in different accounts to move the account up in visibility and demand, now thats in deviant art, I dont know if patreon charges a fee for every tier. But yes, its horrible that people are getting scammed like this.

  • @Sanaa_pio
    @Sanaa_pio 7 місяців тому +15

    I do understand that AI is theft and it's annoying that other artists aren't getting as much support compared to AI users, but why dose this use counts as a scam? they already confirmed using AI in there bio, so they aren't selling anything to people who wants real art, only to people who wants fake art, even if I agree that paying for something you could do with a click of a button is a little unnecessary, specially the commission part, if the people who are paying are aware that it's AI then why is this considered scam?

    • @jayceenova9860
      @jayceenova9860 7 місяців тому

      Good point

    • @beeIovely
      @beeIovely 7 місяців тому

      it's a scam because AI at its core is theft, and their patreon site itself fails to mention the use of AI at all. they put it once and only once in their description which people clearly don't check. if they were that proud of it they wouldn't be hiding comments and blocking people for simply saying the letters "AI" in their quote retweets. a huge swad of their followers AREN'T aware that it's a scam. even if that's in part their fault, it's there, and that's what they're leaning on. a simple qrt and replies check will show you this.

    • @sjin3475
      @sjin3475 9 днів тому

      If they're blocking people and deleting some replies then it might be the case that they're relying on this appearing on unsuspecting people's feeds seeing it and not thinking to check. Then when someone starts pointing them out, they'll use the excuse that they explicitly state that they have "AI" in their bio.
      People should definitely be more wary of the type of content they'd be willing to pay for, but it could still count as a scam especially if it's deliberate. Do you consider people preying on folks who aren't tech-savvy as still scammers or would they not be? The "consumers" should've known better, but is it their fault? It sounds a bit like fraud shaming to me.
      Just a bit more transparency should help. I think they should also clarify that it's AI every post that they make, though I'm not sure if they do that on their Patreon.

  • @ZipZapTesla
    @ZipZapTesla 6 місяців тому

    At least he doesn't pretend it's not AI lmao
    If people are really falling for this "scam," knowing this is AI, they must have room temperature IQ.

  • @misachan9199
    @misachan9199 6 місяців тому

    What sucks even more than them using ai is also that they got money just from using prompts and stuff, IT AIN’T FAIR FOR THOSE WHO POUR THEIR SOUL and spend time in their artwork and commissions just to see no one is getting their commission, and that person just SOLD OUT of 20$ worth of commission from who knows what many slot they have

  • @ConnyTheTPNenthusiast
    @ConnyTheTPNenthusiast 7 місяців тому +1

    "Nyuvilettos" is kinda funny to me lmao (ps: new-vee-lett)

  • @LuneTea
    @LuneTea 4 місяці тому

    Idk but like- some artists do shade the entire body a way and barely do anything to the face. It is not an AI thing necessarily even if it does it too. So idk saying 2d face slapped on it could hurt artists if people just blindly believe “if the face is 2d and body 3d it’s ai”.

  • @syz3630
    @syz3630 6 місяців тому

    Not sure about your opinion on the art 2D face with 3D body, i have seen this kind of art style everywhere. So its pretty common.

  • @the_midnight_mischief
    @the_midnight_mischief 6 місяців тому

    Ai has been evolving way too quickly to the point that we’re getting actual people synthetically made which shouldn’t be happening! Even if we make a case that defends it, it’s very hard to call it ethical! Art is sacred, it’s a HUMAN ONLY thing, NOT an AI thing! Even I can’t stand it because the way things are, I can’t even begin to explain the anger I feel when people start to profit off of stolen work generated by AI and the sympathy I have for all the artists out there who have to deal with the pressure of AI that is taking over art. Art takes a long time to learn and I’ll admit, it’s not easy and I’m trying to learn to become an artist trying different ways to get there since I learn differently and might have a better chance on a different medium than I would on paper but I’m not willing to give up since I have a goal of being one of the first manga artists from the US one day and I don’t EVER want to resort to using AI as an option because I don’t need a machine to do work that I could do myself.

  • @demometalico
    @demometalico 7 місяців тому

    AI users fear this object the most:
    A pencil.

  • @Zaphyre-_
    @Zaphyre-_ 6 місяців тому

    Ever since I found your channel I've been obsessed!!

  • @5005H1roll
    @5005H1roll 5 місяців тому

    when theyre so obviously using AI its hard for me to feel bad for their patrons
    they know, they still spent money, it is what it is

  • @NuriaHu-o9k
    @NuriaHu-o9k 4 місяці тому

    out of topic and not to sound rude or to criticize the slightest, but does Kat know Jing yuan isn't from genshin and he's from hsr? want to do a collab so bad😔

  • @boo_isweird
    @boo_isweird 6 місяців тому

    The funny thing is that Kaveh is from Sumeru which is based off India and stuff and this guy just decided that Kaveh should wher clothes from Italy

  • @MiyazakiKaguya.
    @MiyazakiKaguya. 7 місяців тому

    Oh boy, another day,I can't live without drama

  • @justblue576
    @justblue576 6 місяців тому

    Funny how they managed to make all the characters look lifeless

  • @nimwgjo
    @nimwgjo 7 місяців тому +2

    ai artist❌
    image generator user✅
    Most people who call themselves AI artists are just creating art for money.
    if you really love art and your don't have talent to digital art(hard work) why patreon?
    only hard work artist need support!!

  • @gwagwa4745
    @gwagwa4745 7 місяців тому +1

    it was most likely a tunica not a toga ^_^ togas are long pieces of fabric wrapped around the body

  • @realJenni
    @realJenni 7 місяців тому

    its one thing to use AI non commercially or for reference sheets to save a buck if you really cant afford it but once youre selling or using it for some sort of commercial reason it should honestly be illegal theres so many AI infiltrated horror stories and real artists lose opportunities that they actually worked for tho this artist is not a scammer cuz theyre not lying about the fact that it is AI art ppl who are buying this art hopefully read up on what theyre buying and should see that its self proclaimed AI art and if they didnt its kinda on them for not reading

  • @ScoutOlson
    @ScoutOlson 6 місяців тому

    I mean it's not really a scam if people know what they're signing up for. He states pretty plainly that he uses AI, and if people wanna pay for that then that's their prerogative.

  • @JCnyou2
    @JCnyou2 6 місяців тому +1

    Not my tea! (Especially those pairings 🤢)

  • @Silvxrfan06
    @Silvxrfan06 7 місяців тому

    This shows how down bad genshin fans are for these fictional male characters

  • @katelynnnguyen1524
    @katelynnnguyen1524 5 місяців тому

    Honestly, for me I work on many different pieces at the same time or like- I jump to different ones if I get bored- and so sometimes I post art pieces once a day 😭😭😭(I’m not trying to defend the ai “artist” btw)

  • @Toniestbook
    @Toniestbook 6 місяців тому

    Trying to make a profit off of the ai program is crazy considering they don’t own what they supposedly make and most of the time it’s them lying about it for obvious reasons

  • @Kaiae-s1t
    @Kaiae-s1t 6 місяців тому

    People are only scamming themselves with this one, they literally admit to using AI and people still pay for it. yikes

  • @AyuK-jm1qo
    @AyuK-jm1qo 6 місяців тому

    The 20 a month is "access" to commissions, not the commission itself I assume. I think you pay for the commission on top of that.

  • @sinchillz7264
    @sinchillz7264 5 місяців тому

    I feel like some people have to know it’s Ai but people will pay for anything if they can get spicy content of it :/

  • @leyyaballim1458
    @leyyaballim1458 6 місяців тому

    As someone who draws genshin characters, a BIG red flag that someone is using ai is that the ai can’t get the outfit correctly as it is released (p.s the pronunciations kills me but it’s fine😭)

  • @floof6105
    @floof6105 2 місяці тому

    Isn't ai "art" more like a collage?

  • @NocontextNocontext
    @NocontextNocontext 3 місяці тому +1

    3:57 yaoi hands

  • @ZerudaArt
    @ZerudaArt 7 місяців тому

    ngl so pissed they generate so much Jing Yuan stuff since my personal art is probably has been used as a source for them just.... look at my human made thirst art and not AI trash

  • @TonyoVODs
    @TonyoVODs 7 місяців тому

    What mic do you do!

  • @akemi_0
    @akemi_0 6 місяців тому

    I miss back when ai was still new and used for shits and giggles

  • @Chockitkat
    @Chockitkat 2 місяці тому

    Honestly though the art here barely looks ai, i like your content but i think pnly usimg the 3d 2d rendering isn't explaining how it's ai too

  • @pickledshoe
    @pickledshoe 6 місяців тому

    Most of of the ai services cost money but they are hiking the price up like seriously just go pay for a real commission

  • @sakuraisnotcute
    @sakuraisnotcute 7 місяців тому

    THE WAY I KNEW NOTHING AND I WAS FOLLOWING THEM

  • @RukaAngel
    @RukaAngel 6 місяців тому

    Am I the only one that saw the book that she is reading is King of Wrath :))))))