Why Orobashi Declared War Against Baal (Genshin Impact Lore)

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  • @DeathkaiserG
    @DeathkaiserG 2 роки тому +425

    One question tho... Did she really use the Tachi/Sword to Orobashi? According to Musou Isshin Lore in Raiden Shogun.
    "The day Makoto passed on, it was given into Ei's hands. The sword was stained with blood, then, and as the blade drew its first taste of crimson, it was blown aside by wild winds and blazing thunder."
    If tozannou was killed with the MnH during the War. It doesn't add up to this
    It was only given to Ei when Makoto Died. Plus the paragraph state was it was not sharpened at all so it was more of a symbol of Makoto's Might. So it was really never used at all.
    Another thing, Shogun's ascension quotes has her training with her Sword as Well as Naginata/Polearm.
    So I believe she could also pull Musou no Hitotachi on a Naginata. Clarifications on here please. Thank You
    Very Awesome Retelling by the way...

    • @hybridicious422
      @hybridicious422 2 роки тому +56

      She probably used the same technique, but not the same sword when she struck down Orobashi. Yeah I think your right she might be using her spear as a way to do her technique. I mean you can see her using a spear in her story teaser and character teaser.

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +96

      Hmm yeah I agree with your points. I admit I missed some things there so you could be right with Ei using a naginata to perform the Musuo No Hitotachi. I'll pin your comment so that future viewers will be informed :)
      Thanks for the clarifications!

    • @DeathkaiserG
      @DeathkaiserG 2 роки тому +22

      @@KlemenTime Thank you as well for pinning this, first time to be honest. Once again, loved your video, I love the diagram of the war

    • @Aaron-dj6ft
      @Aaron-dj6ft 2 роки тому +6

      @@KlemenTime
      Actually she used it., this was taken from the genshin impact wiki
      The Musou Isshin is a legendary sword that was originally created from Raiden Makoto's divine might. While it was in Makoto's possession, the blade was kept unsharpened and unused, and was used as a symbol of true peace. After her death during the cataclysm 500 years ago, it was passed on to her sister Ei, who began to use it as a weapon in battle.[1]
      After creating the Shogun, Ei transferred her consciousness into the Musou Isshin and created the Plane of Euthymia, while the sword itself is kept within the Shogun and summoned through her chest.
      Ever since the Musou Isshin was passed down, Ei and the Shogun have performed the Musou no Hitotachi with this blade. Raiden Shogun's Elemental Burst, Secret Art: Musou Shinsetsu, changes her stance from wielding a Polearm to wielding the Musou Isshin (which uses Sword animations).

    • @DeathkaiserG
      @DeathkaiserG 2 роки тому +5

      @@Aaron-dj6ft Orobashi's attack was about after/during Archon war like 2,000 years ago. Ei only got the sword after Makoto died during the Cataclysm which is about 500 years ago.

  • @vanmanaez1900
    @vanmanaez1900 2 роки тому +1241

    It's like watching a real life War Documentary...

    • @No-cc1fq
      @No-cc1fq 2 роки тому +49

      His sound like kazuha

    • @aaditshirke8755
      @aaditshirke8755 2 роки тому +31

      @@No-cc1fq I thought it were some char voice lines until I heard "in this video.."

    • @yeoui8626
      @yeoui8626 2 роки тому +2

      his name makes you sound like you disagree at everything

    • @S4LeagueTBKing
      @S4LeagueTBKing 2 роки тому +1

      Sadly you are not wrong

    • @Sharkyie1018
      @Sharkyie1018 2 роки тому +2

      Wait.... It isn't?

  • @adora_burst8143
    @adora_burst8143 2 роки тому +897

    Ei: I have been more than favorable. I have allowed them to continue worshiping their fallen god.
    Also Ei: grabs pickaxe and starts mining their God's corpse.

    • @fatuusdottore
      @fatuusdottore 2 роки тому +30

      Good

    • @Kishisuke
      @Kishisuke 2 роки тому +221

      Ik its a joke but ei never ordered the tenryou commission to mine those minerals from the bones of orobashi
      It was all plan of the fatui and manipulated tenryou commission

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 2 роки тому +63

      I understand its a joke lmao but its not Ei's doing but the Tenryou commission alone with the fatui

    • @backpackpepelon3867
      @backpackpepelon3867 2 роки тому +42

      Ei are pretty much the worse version of barbatos, and thats really bad cause barbatos got nothing to write about either.

    • @nobblkpraetorian5623
      @nobblkpraetorian5623 2 роки тому +93

      @@backpackpepelon3867 Ei (through her puppet) reigned for 500 years, and she only had one bad year. Her rule before the bad year is said to have been peaceful.

  • @randoscience4756
    @randoscience4756 2 роки тому +549

    I feel sad that lore about watatsumi is just as thin as hairline showed in the archon quest while the true story so much richer than I thought

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +56

      So true! I want to give it some justice in my next video when we portray the Civil War of Inazuma with a more detailed story and view 😄

    • @randoscience4756
      @randoscience4756 2 роки тому +16

      Hopefully there's canon continuation story for watatsumi in the future (._.") these parts of inazuma need more attention

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +13

      Hope so too. Maybe in Kokomi's Act 2 or in future events

    • @enesjei
      @enesjei 2 роки тому +23

      Electro archon quest is huge disapointment story wise. Both for shogunate and resistance's side. They tried to cover it up with epic cut scenes, but bad plot is still bad plot.

    • @Ben-vg6ox
      @Ben-vg6ox 2 роки тому +22

      Well people just don't seem to care for lore in general. No one cares about Seirai Island Dragonspine or Tsurumi island, places rich in history and lore that inform how they look at the moment

  • @IN-tm8mw
    @IN-tm8mw 2 роки тому +275

    Everyone wondering why this wasn't fully explained in the main story, forget that in real life every location has a "rich" history known and unknown to those who go about their daily lives. Do you ponder the history of your town and city everytime you travel to work? no but you can "feel" it in the culture of the people who live there. This is why Genshin Impact's world building is top tier.

    • @suesmith7595
      @suesmith7595 2 роки тому +48

      Yeah, people seem to forgot that Genshin's main story revolves around the traveler. There are so many people with rich background and history, but unless that history has something to do with the Traveler, it's not something they can expect to be animated.

    • @morax9758
      @morax9758 2 роки тому +9

      Yesss, every region has an interesting part of lore that has nothing to do with the Traveler so it is very interesting to hear about every region's history and culture

    • @emilydai2488
      @emilydai2488 Рік тому

      B

  • @retroas2683
    @retroas2683 2 роки тому +288

    I feel bad for the god in this one. They didn't want to start a war, but their people manipulated them into it. If people has attempted trade rather than attacking, there would've been a union of two countries and 3 god in their land (Beelzebud, Baal and Orobashi). They could trade crafts while bying resources. Trade fish, aquacultural things. Anything to do with stone and ores. Pearl crafts.

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +25

      I don't think so, why would Makoto give them Inazuma people lands....
      Would any country give another country land just because they are poor? Nope
      At most they can give them temporary relief but not any permanent thing like land
      Trading could have helped them a little but not a lot. Fishing is not going to be very successful trade when whole Inazuma itself is near sea. On top of it their whole land went totally unfertile and unyielding so they didn't have a lot of options

    • @frenchrevenge6406
      @frenchrevenge6406 2 роки тому +31

      @@AJ-jy6jq
      Remember the Sango Pearls tho? I think the Fatui said these are valuable as heck

    • @kpp28
      @kpp28 2 роки тому +46

      @@AJ-jy6jq the largest precedence in human history for your question exists. Look at the united kingdom, a union between 4 countries, where England is the dominant power and ruling is very consolidated into westminster. Same case could very easily happen with inazuma and watsurumi if they didn't gone to war. This is not ideal for watsurumi, and especially orobashi as he would lose the right to rule but, like Scotland, Wales and northen Ireland, wealth from the British empire trickle down into these three countries from England which improved the wider population quality of live.

    • @MrMarco302
      @MrMarco302 2 роки тому +27

      With recent information we now still feel bad for Orobashi but there was also no way to scape this fate, Celestia made him chose, his people or his life.

    • @jammycyhu279
      @jammycyhu279 2 роки тому +6

      @@MrMarco302 Yes. He was forced by the Celestia. What a bad people.

  • @MannonCannon
    @MannonCannon 2 роки тому +448

    I honestly had no idea that Watatsumi attacked first given all the sentiment the people held to the mainland in their dialogue. It actually explains the tension between the nations a lot. I also had no idea that the underwater city was under that pool in the shrine XD I hope we get to see it. Well I enjoyed the video. Brilliant as always. Keep it up!

    • @yharnamiyhill787
      @yharnamiyhill787 2 роки тому +36

      and it is very noble of Kokomi to lead her small civilisation as Inazuma's resistence in case the Shogunate overstep and become tyranical to inazuman people. Watasumi had no reason to sacrifice themselves in this noble path - if anything they ought to be resentful. But they are not... I highly respect them and I hope Miho will write more about this small and fragile island.

    • @brabbits5308
      @brabbits5308 2 роки тому +8

      @@yharnamiyhill787 yeah they have a reason "they are part of inazuma" the vision hunt decree was also implemented on watasumi island because of that they fought and rebelled against the shogun maybe for people who don't have vision there is no reason to fight, but for people who have vision like kokomi yes obviously she has a reason to fight and that's to protect her glowing blue ball she is willing to sacrifice many of her subordinates

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 2 роки тому +3

      We will. Enkanomiya will soon be a playable area. Likely permanent thus time. Will have its own map.

    • @gametabulas
      @gametabulas 2 роки тому +5

      @@brabbits5308 Bitter much? She did it because baal loved sucking on celestia's dck and killed their god as ordered by celestia. Vision aside every single person on watatsumi hate that childish archon who locked herself in a puppet, act like a spoilt brat and think that bunch of vision holders are threat to her 'eternity'. No one is willing to fight shogun's army without solid reason knowing full well that they will die. Shogun is a tyrant, she destroyed so many places because she was ordered by celestia and cover it up by saying she wants to protect Inazuma. She literally destroyed half of Inazuma what is she saving? Narukami and half of tatarasuma? Unlike zhongli she is not loved by her people, her people follow her out of fear. People of monstad like venti for freedom, liyue acknowledge and respect zhongli for his sacrifice, protection and making liyue prosperous while everyone in Inazuma only talk about how strong Shogun is and how everyone should fear her muso no hitotachi. Hell even her own tenrou and konjoe commission respect her booba sword more than herself. People joined hands not because of losing vision it's because Shogun is now coming after people. Vision holders are people who are important to society, if these people are forced to submit their freedom what chance is there for common folks? People want freedom, change and that is why they joined force. Celestia destroyed enkonomiya and tsurumi, pushed an entire civilization under water just because they figured that gods came from another world, archons are nothing but tyrants but hey since they are playable characters and have huge jugs and thigh highs they must be good people right?

    • @brabbits5308
      @brabbits5308 2 роки тому +15

      @@gametabulas
      1)Baal kills the snake that worshiped By kokomi acestor is cuz the serpent attacked inazuma first and she slay the bird also cuz the bird attack first not cuz celestia told her to do
      2)if baal really very obedient to celestia she would not throw away her fucking gnosis cuz the gnosis is the one and only thing conected her to celestia and inazuma only become closed nation Recently not form 1000years ago
      3) not all people who have vision is important kazuha just a homeless, hell even itto just a gangster and yoimiya just some girl who make firework the people who important still have their vision like ayaka
      4) destroy so many places cuz celestia told her to do so? That's Bs yashiori split in half cuz some stupid fish people god attack it first tatarusma become like that cuz some stoopid fish girl rebel againts her ruler Causing civil war and the army need weapon so the they Excess mining of the material caused the disaster to occur if that stoopid girl just let go her fucking glowing blue ball that would not happen and, what she destroy in narukami? Narukami is fine
      5)the only people she coming for is the people who againts her and protect the vision holder, not all people, she hunts lawbreakers and the one who protects lawbreakers so as long u doesn't break the law and doesn't cover up the law breaker u safe u know that's even in ur country yhe Government do that, the thing is songonomiya people hate her cuz she slay their god that's why they join the revolt they using vision decree As an excuse to rebel and hide their true desires and that even not her fault their stupid god attack first if she want she can wiped out all of fish people after she killed their god
      6) All gods rule through fear and power even gods in the real world ( if there is one) and human using "god love" to Self-deception , they respect the power They are afraid of punishment, u think zhogli and Barbatos loved by their people? No they fear them if morax and barbatos loses all their power the people Won't obey them, the people won't follow their word anymore

  • @dreamday988
    @dreamday988 2 роки тому +308

    Did anyone ever tell you that ur voice resembles Kazuha’s? Its so calm, its like Kazuha is telling the story~

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +41

      I've read a lot actually 😅

    • @dreamday988
      @dreamday988 2 роки тому +22

      @@KlemenTime good, if you ever get tired of lore you can call up Mihoyo for the audition 😌

    • @amagr81
      @amagr81 2 роки тому +17

      I legit thought it was Kazuha telling the story at first and I was like I don't remember this dialogue in the game lol

    • @onemoregodrejected9369
      @onemoregodrejected9369 2 роки тому +3

      Wow i just now spent some minutes trackig the identity fo the VA and this UA-cam account owner to see if he was actually Kazuha. I guess is not but damn it really sounds like it

    • @yendilendi2919
      @yendilendi2919 2 роки тому +3

      At first I thought it was actually Kazuha and I was watching a cutscene that I didn't see already

  • @alifpatria2135
    @alifpatria2135 2 роки тому +281

    I mean if it was true that the reasom behind the watatsumi's people aggression was because they needed resources, maybe try to ask the shogunate for help or offering some kind of trade, like anything instead violence? Maybe it all could've been avoided. Like i'm sure Raiden Makoto wouldn't mind helping or aggreing to a trade that could benefit both parties. But instead they did a big oof and had the wrong Raiden coming for them. Never mess with the weilder of the Musou No Hitotachi boys. It's not worth it.

    • @youmnacookie2960
      @youmnacookie2960 2 роки тому +64

      Yes, they could have traded fish for crops or they could have tried to deal with the crop issue.

    • @alifpatria2135
      @alifpatria2135 2 роки тому +52

      @@youmnacookie2960 IKRRRR but they were like "Nah, let's go to war lmao" I think something else like what was said in the video could be the real reason. Something that could force Orobashi to fight in a battle he can never win.

    • @youmnacookie2960
      @youmnacookie2960 2 роки тому +56

      @@alifpatria2135 Maybe erosion or celestia, Watatsumi should have just negotiated a trade deal with Makato.

    • @Rozherhn
      @Rozherhn 2 роки тому +20

      If the main story the rebel forces had confronted the archon, the story had been repeated, all the commanders would have been killed by the rebels and who knows if Kokomi too.
      but in ourselves, the traveler, we avoid that ending, as if we had avoided a cycle.

    • @scarecrow2627
      @scarecrow2627 2 роки тому +35

      You may also understand, the higher the demand, the higher the price. For the Marchants, land that cannot sustain their own food supply is a gold mine. The marchants can just put any number on their goods or trade with local goods cheaply, of course they can ask for help but they can't depend their life on the mercy of others. In this situation, they have no choice but to "do or die" and "will you die a warrior or die a beggar" becomes the motivation.

  • @Sumi63787
    @Sumi63787 2 роки тому +94

    this is such a tragic tale, but I felt like it was truly inevitable. They were already suffering greatly from famine, and Celestia itself might have ordered the war...

  • @sucrosesupremacy4526
    @sucrosesupremacy4526 2 роки тому +154

    For a bit I have wondered where in Teyvat do dragons come from. Like we’ve heard of dragons but not where they came from?? That’s suspicious🤨

    • @alexmetaverse
      @alexmetaverse 2 роки тому +32

      Afaik, they are basically elemental manifestations like slimes, cicins and specters

    • @donjuan9952
      @donjuan9952 2 роки тому +23

      @@alexmetaverse True. Dvalin was the elemental creature from Goetia age. But other theories say that Dvalin also a Celestia's pet. Look at flying dragon in the manga/webtoon of Genshin Impact. They flying around Celestia😯

    • @Lialvas
      @Lialvas 2 роки тому +9

      the dragon of dragonspine was a man made dragon made in kanreah, its also technically Albedo's brother.

    • @averageperson3987
      @averageperson3987 Рік тому

      Before the time of the first descender was the time ruled by seven lords of dragon. After that the first descender- Phanes and 4 shades came and killed the dragon lord and started a new civilization. The second descender- heavenly principle came and waged war with the first and Ekanomiya fell to the bottom of the sea at this time.

  • @enesjei
    @enesjei 2 роки тому +327

    It's funny how people's opinion is easily swayed by the "good intention" of orobashi and overlooked watatsumi agression to yashiori island. But when it comes to the "good intention" of electro archon, people are livid because she took people's vision/ambition. Both are decided for their people's sake, yet both of them are failed to fulfill it and only bring more misery to their people.
    As for the archon war, i doubt it about race to get a "seat" in celestia. Based on salt god lore, she and her people was pretty much forced to "participate" in the war even when she didn't wanted to.

    • @wowacur3974
      @wowacur3974 2 роки тому +4

      Maybe Orobashi escaped secretly from the archon war?

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +43

      Salt god didn't participate in the war though.
      The reason king killed salt goddess was because he had different ideals, he didn't agreed on her idea of surviving by going weaponless amd hiding in a cave but rather building a war arsenal and participating in battle

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +5

      @@bosunbill9059 read my comment again, where have i ever said that she participated in war or was killed by a god

    • @Chopsparillo
      @Chopsparillo 2 роки тому +1

      @@bosunbill9059 that was the “king” they were talking about.

    • @SSS_kevin
      @SSS_kevin 2 роки тому +3

      It’s bc Orobashi is the best deity

  • @Chen_Han
    @Chen_Han 2 роки тому +450

    Now that I see this video and read all the lore, Watatsumi losing Orobashi was their own fault lol. They attacked Inazuma first. The Shogunate was just minding its own business and not even trying to take Watatsumi or anything. If anything, Inazuma was just defending their own lands. The Watatsumi people kind of have no right to be mad at the Shogunate, at least not until the Vision Hunt Decree.

    • @ChronicUptier
      @ChronicUptier 2 роки тому +180

      Even after the Vision Hunt decree it didn't give Watasumi the right to destroy all of the Narukami shrines in the region. Wars often have a true purpose, and then a propaganda purpose. The Vision Hunt decree was the excuse to go to war, the propaganda purpose. The real purpose was to eradicate the worship of the Shogun and replace it with the competing religion. If that was not true there would be no reason for them to wreck all the Narukami shrines. Was the Vision Hunt decree, which only affected a tiny percentage of the population of Watasumi worth erasing another religion and starting a bloody civil war over? They even destroyed the shrines on other islands that aren't part of their own during their expansion onto the islands in between. Like an invader on a crusade would. The resistance aren't the good guys.

    • @Chen_Han
      @Chen_Han 2 роки тому +20

      @@ChronicUptier yeah totally agree. once again, religion is the true cause of wars.

    • @alexdark1245
      @alexdark1245 2 роки тому +73

      @@ChronicUptier correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the one who destroyed the shrines the traitor? Nathan, the secret fatui that infiltrated the resistance? i mean he probably did get a few resistance soldiers to help him by manipulating and angering them but still, im pretty sure the shrines were the fatuis plan to anger both sides and keep the war going. i might be wrong tho

    • @orsikocs
      @orsikocs 2 роки тому +7

      It's quite common in war for the nation at fault to be mad and wanting 'revenge' for the other nation's defence of themselves. No news there, just like real life.

    • @orsikocs
      @orsikocs 2 роки тому +39

      @@Chen_Han or the application of a certain religion. It is clear that orobashi never had any desire for war. It's the people that used him as an excuse. Religion is just an excuse for people to start wars they want to start anyways.

  • @notyourtype5654
    @notyourtype5654 2 роки тому +90

    Orobashi accidentally read a book which detailed the time before the big lighthouse was built. At that time, Teyvat belonged to a single civilization and the gods had not yet arrived. For reading this book, Celestia sentenced Orobashi to death. In order to let the people of Enkanomiya continue living as humans, Orobashi kept the truth from them and forfeited his life. To do so, Orobashi pretended to migrate his people, sealed Enkanomiya and attacked Narukami so that he can cover up his execution.
    From a redditor Captain_B0B

    • @Lightningstrike1220
      @Lightningstrike1220 Рік тому +4

      Well, that Abyss Herald in Enkanomiya confirmed this.

    • @christbenitez8797
      @christbenitez8797 Рік тому

      I'm so fuking sure that Ei knew about this and she probably thinking twice if what she's going to do is right or bad but orobashi probably already send messages to the shogun. days before orobashi resurface and tell ei to just play along for the sake of both their people.

    • @Glacier7474
      @Glacier7474 Рік тому +10

      ​​@@christbenitez8797 lol nope, according to the lore she didn't know. Orobashi didn't tell anyone about this thing. If she had known than Celestia would punish her too plus her Tengu friend was killed in his war along with several other watasumi islanders. This was a desperate action of Orobashi to escape Celestia's wrath

  • @evapunk333
    @evapunk333 2 роки тому +87

    This was seriously so amazing! It felt like watching an actual documentary and I kinda chuckled at Aether kinda being our presenter of the documentary in the beginning and the end 🤣🤣

  • @swtormadness
    @swtormadness 2 роки тому +104

    I knew that Orobashi had to have a reason for the invasion. The possible starvation of his people and the idea of being under the boot of Inazuma if they tried to trade for food - being at their mercy, endangered and vulnerable, pushed them for conquest and made them godless and hurt.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 2 роки тому +31

      Funny thing is that Orobashi knew and choose to sacriface himself. Putting his people under the Shogunate that they live a better life. He knew he couldn't win but knew he could give them a better future this way.
      So no. Losing his rule wouldn't bother him.

    • @Czarniak4
      @Czarniak4 2 роки тому +1

      War brings only death and suffering. If they attacked by force, there could be only one outcome...

    • @lagrangewei
      @lagrangewei 2 роки тому

      like how the american colonist attack and tookover the rich native land?

    • @morax9758
      @morax9758 2 роки тому +1

      That and I think Celestia pressured Orobashi to fight against Shogun since he hadn't participated in the Archon war

    • @jadesides51
      @jadesides51 2 роки тому +2

      @@morax9758 It is said that he sacrificed himself after learning the truth of Celestia, and covered his death sentence as an attack against Narukami.

  • @dazaichan9970
    @dazaichan9970 2 роки тому +5

    So basically the Shogunate were defending their home from the Watatsumi people and their far away deity. Also, maybe if Ourabashi hadn't interfered with Enkanomiya then perhaps , there wouldn't have been a need for a different civilization to struggle with food shortages and such. From what it seemed, Ourabashi was an outsider avoiding conflict too, but also pushed into it once they had a civilization of their own.

  • @cptaustro3157
    @cptaustro3157 2 роки тому +16

    For a moment I thought that it was Kazuha narrating it

  • @galaxycrystal2651
    @galaxycrystal2651 2 роки тому +48

    I love how deep Genshin Lore is, the history within history. So much detailed for those who looked close enough.

  • @eiko1490
    @eiko1490 2 роки тому +128

    This channel is underrated af 😭 this is pure quality

    • @morax5015
      @morax5015 2 роки тому +3

      IKR!! the only genshin youtubers, I follow are lore explainers..

    • @aerin699
      @aerin699 2 роки тому +2

      RIGHT?????

    • @morax9758
      @morax9758 2 роки тому

      Yeah I feel like people mostly care too much about DPS meta and skip out on all of this beautiful amazing lore 😢

    • @sungvin
      @sungvin Місяць тому

      @@morax5015 Hello! can you recommend other lore explainers? I'm in love with world building of this game

  • @gametabulas
    @gametabulas 2 роки тому +30

    Orobashi was forced by celestia to bring enkonomiya people to surface which he protected so long and was his family. But people starts to die, without food and fertile soil he was watching his family die. He knew he would die fighting Shogun but he still did. He was a good god. Celestia are power hungry bunch, but sadly people won't talk about that.

  • @rhanielyt9946
    @rhanielyt9946 Рік тому +8

    I mean, they already did peace negotiations in the start, and Watatsumi started the attack, so its just wise that Ei would slay Orobashi. Orobashi should have known that if you invade other lands, it is a declaration of war against the Gods in that Island.

  • @nafri91
    @nafri91 2 роки тому +11

    Damn..the lore is freaking amazing. I thought fans said inazuma lore is boring..but actually they arent really pay attention to side lore..
    My opinion on the watatsumi people.. they pretty much torn on being grateful or greedy because of the infertile land. While orobaxi probably didnt want to fight the shogun because he definitely knew that shogun is one of the seven strongest archon as they won the freaking archon war. Poor him, he got to see the full power of musou no hitotachi and dead miserably..

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 2 роки тому +1

      According to someone on reddit. When they pinned down all the remains of Orobashi. It was apparent that Ei cut him to pieces.

  • @user-pv2fz6wm2g
    @user-pv2fz6wm2g 2 роки тому +2

    Orobashi: hi makoto so like my people need more land so can i bring my people east?
    Ei: who dis
    Orob/
    /ashi:

  • @astridmustikasyamsuri6207
    @astridmustikasyamsuri6207 2 роки тому +16

    In the book it kinda written orobashi try to fulfill his subject's wishes, it's not just "why don't they just trade" they want better home to settle down, remember, they came from the depth, they pray to their god for more fertile land & orobashi try to fulfill it for them even though he know it is impossible. It would be great if orobashi just chillin n want audience with makoto asking for extra land for watatsumi people, though i doubt people of yashiori island willing to give some & the watatsumi people gonna wage war for land nonetheless
    After the defeat some people move on some people don't. And the fact a lot of narukami people shitting on them for their belief did not help either.

  • @racool911
    @racool911 2 роки тому +4

    This video needs a major update lmao

  • @gatra1320
    @gatra1320 2 роки тому +4

    brother, did you know how your vice resemble kazuha so much. it looks like kazuha retelling the story and i for one are really amused by this notion

    • @annisfareehan7969
      @annisfareehan7969 2 роки тому

      i'm glad i'm not the only one who realize this hahaha🤣

  • @bosunbill9059
    @bosunbill9059 2 роки тому +59

    Fun fact.
    Ei despite being a Kagemusha , in this part of the story act more like an actual Dai Shogun.
    Initially , the role of the Shogun wasn't to rule over the Country and puppet the Emperor but to conquer , suppress and subjugate Emishi people, or Barbarians as a leading Grand General.
    However as Samurai grew more powerful and influential. They started fighting against each other in a war known as Genpei War then became a Second Government ruling alongside the Imperial Government. Then even sometime later, after another war, the Shogun completely dominated Japan and the Emperor became a puppet until the Meiji Restoration.

    • @kpp28
      @kpp28 2 роки тому +6

      You skipped through around 900 years of Japanese history but I guess its kinda still accurate.

    • @trax_high
      @trax_high 2 роки тому

      The source of your Fun Fact?

  • @WhisperingPersona
    @WhisperingPersona 2 роки тому +25

    Absolutely loved this. The lore itself I already knew would be great, but the presentation of this was just *chef’s kiss*

  • @222000seb
    @222000seb 2 роки тому +3

    What the hell? We now have both Yanfei and Kazuha doing Genshin Theory videos on UA-cam?!

    • @rootiyk5032
      @rootiyk5032 2 роки тому +1

      The resemblance is honestly terrifying

  • @williansantana6602
    @williansantana6602 2 роки тому +18

    Watching this video i couldn't help thinking about this story in anime form..... i know it would be a little too violent for mihoyo but i think it would be great especially with a lot of blood haha.

  • @higaiwokeru
    @higaiwokeru 2 роки тому +5

    I honestly can’t wait for the Enkanomiya video

  • @justacatwithasadface2692
    @justacatwithasadface2692 2 роки тому +10

    Aight, so the biggest question: why in all hells does Watatsumi's (and Orobashi's) first choice to resolve their problem comes in the form of *war against the Shogunate?!*
    How was negotiations for at least cooperation or land-sharing not their first attempt? If what you said is true, then the people of Watatsumi were so utterly stupid that they challenged an established nation led by the Electro Archon herself. Not only that, but the people of Narukami weren't even attacking Watatsumi either, and considering Orobashi and Makoto seemed at least understanding of each other's positions, why in the fuck was his first move to invade Yashiori??
    The civil war wasn't a tragedy because of the atrocity that happened. It was a tragedy because of how stupid the reasons behind it were.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 2 роки тому +4

      Indeed. Thankfully this is an easy fix from Mihoyo (if they want symphathy for Watatshumi) to have them negotiate first. If these Negotiations weren't meeting the needs of the people then war, though extreme, may be understandable. Heck you could add in Narukami people's Xenophobia that we know too well to make this conflict make sense.
      As it stands. Yes Watatshumi was stupid. And they killed their god in the process.

    • @justacatwithasadface2692
      @justacatwithasadface2692 2 роки тому +2

      @@arnowisp6244 really makes me wish for a rewrite of the Inazuma Civil War arc

  • @shin-xe4vq
    @shin-xe4vq 2 роки тому +36

    This is absolutely fantastic. The narration, the edit, everything is just *chef kiss*. I got the new bow and spear from wishing for the elegy bow yesterday, and the tales of the twin sisters and akuoumaru has been plaguing my mind every since. I didn't know there are new books added in the new patch and as a lore enjoyer, i feel ashamed. This video is godsent. Thank you so much for the amazing video. Keep up the good work!

  • @LA-sm5uf
    @LA-sm5uf 2 роки тому +9

    Thanks for making this amazing video, it explains a lot of my confusion.. can't wait to see more of your video in the future

  • @swdsK
    @swdsK 2 роки тому +9

    Dude, this is just awesome. Editing is great, narration is well paced, your voicing is on point... Congratulations on this great video!! :)

  • @kazui4605
    @kazui4605 2 роки тому +5

    As a regular player, its really hard to put together the story, Im glad videos like this exist. Thank you

  • @phaniuday5588
    @phaniuday5588 2 роки тому +6

    i loved this video so much, your presentation always makes lore so much more interesting to watch. thank you for this

  • @horus4502
    @horus4502 2 роки тому +1

    This video and channel is genuinely so underappreciated, the editing in this one is simply amazing

  • @chriss.249
    @chriss.249 2 роки тому +21

    I feel like the enkanomiya depths will be like atlantis. And maybe we can either dive and swim underwater, or have an oxygen bar that drops until we can refill it by getting air bubbles, items, or standing next to something(think like torches in dragonspine).
    Personally i hope we get that dragon of the depths as a weekly boss. Im tryna smoke his pack and finish the work orobaxi started.💪🏾

  • @MannonCannon
    @MannonCannon 2 роки тому +2

    Wooo new video! Ima watch it when I get home from work

  • @deekadiko
    @deekadiko 2 роки тому +2

    man the video quality is so good! looking forward to more!

  • @MrL961
    @MrL961 2 роки тому +9

    Another good video...this channel is very underrated and i cant wait for another lore
    Good job brother.

  • @jurogatas7314
    @jurogatas7314 2 роки тому +5

    The quality of the content in this channel is so underrated. Every video is a must watch.

  • @MC-ne7jl
    @MC-ne7jl 2 роки тому +1

    Dudeeeee, the video, the editing, the quality, the way you narrate the story exceeds 100%! This is so well done! You got yourself a new subscriber.

  • @pelajarteladan3158
    @pelajarteladan3158 2 роки тому +10

    Thanks for a making a vid about this! I really like Orobashi and very interested in his story, but I got no time to play genshin much lately and do the digging myself.

  • @GentleSavage94
    @GentleSavage94 2 роки тому +1

    I have been looking for more Genshin Lore UA-camrs like yourself who not only rely on the quests but also the materials and books from the game!
    Good work and subscribed!

  • @brankho
    @brankho 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing job man. High quality content and narration

  • @beccbizzl
    @beccbizzl 2 роки тому

    amazing quality. love the way you show clips. it’s like a movie

  • @judepatrickcarangan1659
    @judepatrickcarangan1659 2 роки тому +7

    All of those who are involved were just victims of their circumstances. To me, I think that the greatest evil here in Teyvat is Celestia and its heavenly principles. Why would the archons gave their gnosis up so easily, there is really something distasteful and despicable in there that made the archons quit. The traveler protects the gnosis from the fatui because of what happened to Venti and we pick fights with them that are not worth the effort in the end, they still ended up getting it anyway because the gnosis were given to them deliberately.

  • @maxttk97
    @maxttk97 2 роки тому +5

    This is why I felt conflicted siding with the watatsumi rebels because it was shown that they fire the first arrow.

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +7

      Yeah I kinda wish they made us choose between the 2 factions but that would disrupt the linearity of the story. Still that would be nice so that it makes us seem to believe that we are in control 😩

    • @kgptzac
      @kgptzac 8 місяців тому

      The fired the first arrow... in a war that happened and concluded hundreds of years ago. There is no conflict of joining the rebellion when a god with 1000% aggro tried to execute you in public but somehow you managed to flee.

  • @karo_carocarol
    @karo_carocarol 2 роки тому +18

    The saddest part is where both sides lose their beloved ones and deities...🥲

    • @astridmustikasyamsuri6207
      @astridmustikasyamsuri6207 2 роки тому +9

      inazuma doesn't know their og archon died though, even if they know they had twin archon

  • @ADORZACH
    @ADORZACH 2 роки тому +1

    100th like im proud btw love these vids bc its lore is great keep up the great work dude!

  • @Balemoon
    @Balemoon 2 роки тому +1

    This is amazingly well done. 👌🏻

  • @someoneinasia
    @someoneinasia 2 роки тому +1

    watatsumi in the lore: food won't grow, the soil is bad
    watatsumi in the game: i see trees, grasses, many plants thriving everywhere

  • @kentstark3104
    @kentstark3104 2 роки тому +1

    Such an underrated channel...
    Hope you gain more followers! U deserve it bro..

  • @yharnamiyhill787
    @yharnamiyhill787 2 роки тому +1

    Please make more! of each region! I love your professional narration. You do not joke around and be childish like many other lore casters. Well done sir. Subscribed Subscribed!

  • @dorayaki515
    @dorayaki515 2 роки тому +1

    Your videos always make me feel watching a movie. Btw thanks for all these summaries and your hard work! >

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +1

      Im glad you enjoyed it☺️

  • @eiiesig2651
    @eiiesig2651 2 роки тому +3

    i come from the future... and all i can say is... poor orobashi....

  • @anshulpatel6232
    @anshulpatel6232 2 роки тому

    I really love these kinds of animation and narrations 💖💖

  • @orsikocs
    @orsikocs 2 роки тому +1

    The editing, the voiceover. Really really enjoyed the video

  • @dinakartika8192
    @dinakartika8192 2 роки тому +1

    watching this video after reading the watatsumi weapon series lore (mouun's moon bow, wavebreaker fin polearm, and akuoumaru claymore) feels like unlocking a new knowledge lol. i finally understood the story. thank you!!

  • @xistinas
    @xistinas 2 роки тому

    Damn! I watched the whole thing! Great video!

  • @najmaht.a.1314
    @najmaht.a.1314 2 роки тому

    Bruh the editing is so good 😭😭✨

  • @just4funnokk98
    @just4funnokk98 2 роки тому

    this is such a quality channel, content and very quality video. SUBBED

  • @budgiewhisperer2738
    @budgiewhisperer2738 2 роки тому

    Great video, ty, fantastic job

  • @luckyace1321
    @luckyace1321 2 роки тому +9

    Wow ..this was a well told video
    Was really preoccupied and left studies to listen
    I was looking for this reason why orobashi did that....
    Truly watatsumi people deserves more ....
    Thanks for telling us the story

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому

      Haha glad to hear it got you to watch :)

  • @malsam4
    @malsam4 2 роки тому

    keep making dividos as u doing amazing work

  • @CorpusSans
    @CorpusSans 2 роки тому

    Thanks KlemenTime for this wonderful video T_T

  • @ashanairdragon3
    @ashanairdragon3 2 роки тому

    Now this, is a perfect narration. Best for sharing

  • @spaghetti185
    @spaghetti185 Рік тому

    Thanks for compiling all of the lore in this single video.

  • @lolitzshelly7229
    @lolitzshelly7229 2 роки тому

    Woooow this was so great

  • @Ash-qd2ke
    @Ash-qd2ke 2 роки тому +7

    I need that Makoto skin for Ei

  • @DavinWilliam2012
    @DavinWilliam2012 2 роки тому +1

    Love your video

  • @saifshaikh3191
    @saifshaikh3191 2 роки тому

    Really loved your video.

  • @HelloFam
    @HelloFam 2 роки тому

    This video is really good :D

  • @PakkaponPhongtawee
    @PakkaponPhongtawee 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for such a great video.
    I hope you revisit Orobashi content since Enkanomiya was released.

  • @faizalazim3471
    @faizalazim3471 2 роки тому

    Keep up the good work man

  • @kwangbae4788
    @kwangbae4788 2 роки тому +4

    I wish more people could watch this great presentation.

  • @peacefulmind6051
    @peacefulmind6051 2 роки тому +11

    i mean makato and ei were so kind that they let live watatsumi and orobashi in complete freedom even after these much things happened ei allows them to worship their deity.. then why orobashi and those stupid watatsumi people instead of attacking just asked for helpor maybe something like pearl or fish for trade ?they had 0 chance against shogun still they attacked a nation that was doing it's own business.. how stupid and reckless they were😑

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому

      I don't think so, why would Makoto give them Inazuma people's lands....
      Would any country give another country land just because they are poor? Nope
      At most they can give them temporary relief but not any permanent thing like land, and what watatsumi people needed was a permanent solution

    • @maliciousqueefer3427
      @maliciousqueefer3427 2 роки тому +4

      @@AJ-jy6jq i mean orabashi shouldve just offered his nation to the Shogunate if he wanted a way out for his people and he himself, quite foolish of him to try to invade the Shogunate after making a deal with Makoto, leaving his people alone and letting them worship him after his death is the greatest mercy Ei gave them after losing soldiers and her Lieutenant

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +2

      @@maliciousqueefer3427 i don't think he ever had any treaty with Makoto.
      Makoto was just silent about watatsumi, she neither approved nor resisted
      Also what's even a god without followers

    • @maliciousqueefer3427
      @maliciousqueefer3427 2 роки тому +2

      @@AJ-jy6jq even if they agreed to something with or without a treaty, it should be pretty obvious why Inazuma is doing so well despite that theres an ongoing archon war and betraying the Shogunate who leads a strong nation is extremely stupid too, Oroboshi wasnt a great God nor is Ei but goddamn did he screwed up

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +2

      @@maliciousqueefer3427 orobashi came in Inazuma after escaping from somewhere, so I don't think he was aware of power of electro Archon.
      Makoto's act of not saying anything was probably taken by watatsumi people as either they aren't accepting their existence or Inazuma is afraid

  • @randyjr.arsenio5624
    @randyjr.arsenio5624 2 роки тому +5

    Oh my gosh I love this. I have always wondered why Oroabashi attacked Narukami. 😍

  • @astronautilus7891
    @astronautilus7891 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this omg

  • @dumper2dust
    @dumper2dust 2 роки тому

    always satisfying, Klementime. thank you! oh maybe you can also made videos about shiki taishou!

  • @hijodelsoldeoriente
    @hijodelsoldeoriente 2 роки тому +1

    The hell, this is better than some lore videos I watch.

  • @NoelleIsTheGeoArchon
    @NoelleIsTheGeoArchon 2 роки тому +2

    This should be updated since Enkanomiya.

  • @beautifly92
    @beautifly92 11 місяців тому

    I came ready to be spoiled because I haven’t finished enkanomiya yet, and I’m glad this video is from before it was released! I am still informed and still unspoiled!
    KlemenTime I adore your videos, tysm for the hard work!

  • @cupcake5478
    @cupcake5478 2 роки тому +2

    Wow damn. I had to rewatch the Raiden Shogun trailer and the first to go was Sasayuri the tengu mask guy right after, indeed, flashing an image of Beelz fighting Orobashi.

  • @commander1488
    @commander1488 2 роки тому

    nice... (I like the war documentation- specifically, the illustrations)

  • @trkzzt
    @trkzzt 2 роки тому

    such a great video thats better than national geography
    and its on my birthday too
    blessed video
    everything about this video is good
    your whole channel deserves a million subs!

    • @KlemenTime
      @KlemenTime  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks :) Also, happy birthday to you!

    • @trkzzt
      @trkzzt 2 роки тому

      @@KlemenTime thanks

  • @dmyn_
    @dmyn_ 2 роки тому

    dude your vids are always fascinating to watch...i sometimes feel like i'm listening to kazuha 🤘🤘🤘

  • @harmonialarts
    @harmonialarts 2 роки тому +16

    Great video as usual!
    This is really tragic honestly, but I feel more sorry for the people of Watatsumi in all honesty. The people of Narukami are doing well enough to have an advanced military and a rich culture not to mention their patron is an Archon.
    Watatsumi on the other hand has a patron god who ran away from the archon war, he couldn't kill the dragon that terrorised them and could only seal it away at best, the seal in turn makes their soil infertile, and their God was slain because of their failed attempt to claim fertile lands to solve their famine problems. Now many of the people have a deep resentment for the Narukami, even though they were at fault. Then again what choice did the have when all they knew was starvation and a desire for greener pastures? Its great that Kokomi is wise and level headed enough put the needs of her people first before their desire for revenge.

    • @tiramisu7544
      @tiramisu7544 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah idk man, the people of Watatsumi seemed to pester their god too much, and thus caused his death.
      The Sangonomiya blame the shogunate for it, but they also should have considered that there was a reason Orobashi lost the Archon war and that he would never be able to match the Shogun’s power, even in his serpent form (I assume he had a humanoid form for accessibility and portability)

    • @emperormaxwell432
      @emperormaxwell432 2 роки тому +3

      Considering even after a second war between them, the shogunate was still willing to do trade with Watatsumi, they could’ve approached their neighbors peacefully. If trade proves not enough, they could’ve simply sought to allow to settle Yashiori alongside the Narukami.

    • @holdemagroin1167
      @holdemagroin1167 2 роки тому +15

      Actually, the Shogun was more than generous to Watatsumi. Even after they invaded her people, she still extended her protection over them, going as far as allowing them to worship their dead serpent god.
      Meanwhile, the people of Watatsumi still resent her to this day, despite the great mercy and generosity showed to them. Even after the recent civil war they were not interested in peace, but instead wanted to continue killing as many shogunate soldiers as they could.
      Watatsumi are a warmongering people. Nothing has changed over the centuries. They started at least 2 wars against Narukami to date. And let's not forget that they didn't shy away from war crimes against civilians, like unleashing the Tatarigami on Yashiori island. They have no moral grounds to stand on.

    • @wroixy5011
      @wroixy5011 2 роки тому +6

      @@holdemagroin1167 aaa I just watched the video abt the yashiori island and it was so sad :(( those loyalist literally destroyed a whole island just to revive their fallen god smh

  • @yahikonightray5398
    @yahikonightray5398 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the vid.
    Thanks

  • @yokens1367
    @yokens1367 2 роки тому

    Can't wait for you to make a video about Enkanomiya :>

  • @Unvoided
    @Unvoided 2 роки тому

    I'm really looking forward to your video about enkanomiya and the truth about Celestia!

  • @AleASanti-mw5wv
    @AleASanti-mw5wv 2 роки тому

    excellent video!°

  • @kamiikitta
    @kamiikitta 2 роки тому +3

    Inazuma has some of the most amazing World Stories

  • @henoji777
    @henoji777 2 роки тому +14

    Well produced lore video! As others said it feels like a legit documentary with the moving map and cinematography!

  • @riccimochi
    @riccimochi 2 роки тому +7

    i really love the lore of watatsumi. within inazuma they have the most beautiful yet tragic lore. now im curious about the dragon heir. were they really bad? maybe they just eroded. so curious about kokomi's divine blood too.

  • @farinhaespacial2982
    @farinhaespacial2982 2 роки тому +8

    Orobashi could've solved the land problem peacefully with trading agreements with Makoto tbh

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +1

      I don't think so, why would Makoto give them Inazuma people lands....
      Would any country give another country land just because they are poor? Nope
      At most they can give them temporary relief but not any permanent thing like land

    • @farinhaespacial2982
      @farinhaespacial2982 2 роки тому +1

      @@AJ-jy6jq nope, not the lands, resources, Makoto gives food and Orobashi gives pearls, for example

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +6

      @@farinhaespacial2982 trading could give temporary relief to give a symptomatic relief not a permanent one, doing this would make it fully reliant on Inazuma for living since they had already no cultivable land. Being totally reliant on a country is almost as good as surrendering to them and I don't think watatsumi people wanted that. They wanted a land and to be self dependent and reliant.
      Also it's not like watatsumi have a lot of things to trade, Inazuma is a sea shore country too, so most of the things available in watatsumi are already available in Inazuma too

    • @farinhaespacial2982
      @farinhaespacial2982 2 роки тому

      @@AJ-jy6jq good point, but they already had a peace agreement with a much stronger country (Inazuma), their fate was sealed with it, to be enslaved or to die horribly

    • @AJ-jy6jq
      @AJ-jy6jq 2 роки тому +5

      @@farinhaespacial2982 i personally don't think they had any official peace agreement, more like Inazuma was just silent on the topic. There weren't any bilateral talks or anything. Island was made from a coral growing from body of orobashi so it wasn't an Inazuma property so they were just silent not officially accepting it.
      Maybe watatsumi island people took this as Inazuma authority not wanting to accept their presence, which might have lead to bitter feelings towards each other.
      Silence from both side was the cause of war. Inazuma authority couldn't just accept a newly form island as in the age of gods accepting a god ruling would be a disastrous choice sending a bad message to Teyvat and might be perceived as that Inazuma archon was afraid and thus let other god stand. This might make Inazuma look as a weak nation.
      Watatsumi people were bitter from the treatment on how Inazuma just remained silent and ignored their presence or probably they thought that Inazuma authority remained silent since their god was more powerful.
      All this bitterness and misconceptions added with internal problems, lead watatsumi to this war. Main factor was that probably they weren't aware of might of Inazuma archon as she hadn't fought in a long while. As shown in video they weren't weak and would have won if not for presence of Ei

  • @xiao9247
    @xiao9247 2 роки тому

    Omg I love ur channel so much! And u sound like kazuha 🤩